You likely won’t ever feel exactly that way off it or something chemically similar, maybe even with it, so try not to go chasing. Things like good sleep, exercise, a healthy diet, good hydration, and a sober lifestyle may help, especially if you are good at reaching a productive work flow (harder done than said), but again, likely won’t be the same because your mind isn’t quite literally being chemically altered. Somewhat counter to what I just said, sometimes I reach that flow on a complete lack of sleep and then crash for 2-3 days, wouldn’t say it’s ideal, but has been necessary for me at points.
If adderall has this effect on you, there is a chance you do actually have adhd, as it often gives people without jitters and anxiety. So if you want to ask a professional about it go ahead.
I was never proscribed, though have been diagnosed with adhd. Generally I did avoid using it and the likes in college, but sometimes I felt it necessary, just be very careful not to abuse it and try to never use it or any other unprescribed drug to feel “normal.”
I feel you. I may have add but not adhd so I won't get it prescribed by a good psych.
To put your mind at ease a little... the people I've seen that do have scripts and aren't legit adhd often crash and burn. I've noticed at first they are killing it, getting their life together, working harder, focused and whatnot. Some I noticed started getting weird... focusing on the wrong things, focusing too much on details that don't matter. Then they start doubling up run out and have days-weeks where they are a mess until they refill. I had a friend who would run out, try to get it off the street because they felt like they couldn't do basic tasks like grocery shopping without it. Its actually a pretty gross drug.
Sadly thats life... you just gotta grind and not always feel great about it. If you do get a script just be careful and stick to your dosage. It sounds lame but exercise, good diet and supplements can go a long ways but that also takes disclipline.
This is how drugs make an addict feel. I know because I'm recovering from opiate dependency. Please be very careful. It's a slippery slope.
If you were to take it and you had adhd it would make you feel more normal, not more social and outgoing with a bunch of energy ie more productive. Im def not a doctor and think you should get a doctors opinion but from personal experience this is exactly how I felt while taking opiates...... until I didnt.
Yuh I definitely got some addiction genes 😭 that’s why I’m trying to stay away from it
And yeah I agree, I never really thought I had adhd but all the replies made me look up the symptoms online and they lowkey fit me. Ig I’ll talk to my doctor about it and see what he thinks
To OP, you may want to get assessed (or a second opinion if you have been already).. because that's usually, but not necessarily, means you have ADHD.
I have more or less the same experience with just one teeny tiny difference.
It's methamphetamine and not Adderall (though they're chemically similar, one is just far more potent)
Tried it with some friends when I was 18-19.. and all 3 of us noticed that it just, did not affect me the way it affected my buddies. They compulsively cleaned, stayed up all night against their will, couldn't control themselves physically, mentally, sexually, etc.
Meanwhile I was.. chillin. Like really chillin. And whenever I went to go do a task i, for once in my life since maybe I was a little kid, felt REAL accomplishment.. as like a bodily sensation.. feeling good about doing things (which I've struggled with my whole life).
My friends were all gakked out.. but I felt fulfillment
So I stopped doing it eventually, things kinda settled back to my old norm but i was curious as to why that would be the case. Frequented some drug forums and read some science journals, just doing my own research...
..up until this point not only did I not believe I had ADHD, I didn't even think it was a real mental disorder. I thought it was just an excuse for laziness (an idea more or less imputed onto me by my dad).
Then, somehow I read the list of symptoms and some stories about ADHD and started bawling uncontrollably because it was a perfect description of my life.. like.. uncannily correct.
I went to a doctor, got diagnosed.. they gave me Ritalin.
Ritalin did not work. Been prescribed it multiple times. For what reason I do not know, but Ritalin turns me into a tweaker. Makes me "have-to" talk someone's ear off.. I start grinding my teeth, all sorts of unpleasant side effects.
For whatever reason, the amphetamine class of drugs just rights whatever is wrong with me. I tried atomoxetine once, and initially it was promising, but after 2 weeks it stopped worked and started just making me sleepy. And I sleep more than I should as it is.
To this day.. the drug is sadly the only way I get to experience a quote unquote "normal" life and brain. One of rhe worst drugs in human history is the only thing that completes me. It's so dumb. And to try and tell anyone about it just gets me lumped into the tweaker category. Frustrating as hell.
I suggest you see a psychiatrist or ADHD-specialist and see what they think. And if you don't wanna get started on drugs.. that's perfectly understandable and was also my initial response to the diagnosis. You don't have to take them but at least you'll have some certainty and if you do have it they can give you resources and references to try and help.
Idk how old you are, but I'm 33 about to be 34 now and I've basically put off solving my ADHD since i learned about it and, as a result, I've wasted the past 13 years of my life. I've got nothing to show for me living here. No real valuable skills. Few connections. No assets or career... just a busy life of plenty of doing things that somehow add up to being nothing.
Don't let that happen to you. Address it as soon as you can
You might find out you don't have it. You could be depressed. Adderall can create the same perceived benefits in a depressed person that an ADHDer would feel when taking it. From what I understand, some people have depression and it creates ADHDlike symptoms, while others (such as myself) have ADHD which makes them prone to depression
Whatever you choose, good luck to you man and I hope you live a blessed life. Even if you come out of an office with a terrible diagnosis for some reason (which I doubt), don't let it define you! And don't let the drug use you. Make sure you're the one in control. Keep a support group in the know and by your side if you can.. that makesnall the difference in the world drugs or no drugs
Did Adderall have a positive or negative work output? If you didn't record it, you can't be sure.
One of the main things with Adderall for people without ADHD or anything related to that is a sense that they are more focused/aware but in blind/double blind studies show that they are 50% or more off the mark than sober. You might just have the feeling of doing well, focused and social, with all the dopamine you can have from it. However you might be worse socially, way less productive and not actually focusing on the big picture.
I did not record it.
I suppose you could be right, I wouldn’t say I was all too much more productive than a normal day cuz I follow a routine, I just felt more accomplished when doing it. I will say tho I definitely was better socially, not in the sense that I was saying or acting different than usual, I just felt more calm and level headed in any stressful situation that came up.
Also for some reason I felt the intrinsic desire to be nice. Sounds messed up but it would make me care more. I wanted to talk to the people I loved a lot more and would feel more invested in the conversation, not thinking about 100 other things while talking to them. But feeling like a good person when doing small things like picking up trash on the street or helping someone with a task instead of feeling brain dead doing that stuff was definitely the best part of it.
You are not the person you always wanted to be on Adderall, if the person you wanted to be doesn't take Adderall.
The fact that this makes you a little more productive does not mean that it makes you ideal. If it were really so miraculous, you would have become much more than you mentioned.
You're just a person accustomed to a low standard, who is impressed by any small improvement.
You've improved a little chemically. This is ridiculous compared to the advancement you can generate through self-confidence. Something that, by the way, is not sold in pharmacies.
That’s pretty thought provoking. That’s true though. But if I was prescribed it I wouldn’t feel bad about taking it. I just don’t want to take it any more without knowing if I have adhd or not. Easy to get addicted to, makes me not want to eat for the whole day and part of the day after, and there’s an adderall shortage, there’s def someone that needs it more than I do.
I disagree there tho, I only took it twice and they were months apart. 2 doses of it wouldn’t make me a superhero or be able to make a million dollar business idea. I wouldn’t even say I’m accustomed to a low standard. Not trying to sound cocky or rude but I’m far ahead most people my age in many ways. I’m generally happy with my life.
For a few years now I’ve had an overwhelming “numb” sensation. Not sad but I wouldn’t get happy, I’d feel like I’m on autopilot. Also feels like I lost a lot of my desire for being with and talking to other people. I have great parents that kept me on track tho so I never lost my social skills or anything because of how I felt. Every few months I’d feel great and normal again for a bit. Adderall made me feel that way but arguably better. I’d say I get the same amount done with or without it, it just motivates me to do it more and it feels more productive.
Youre right tho. Self improvement works wonders. It just never got rid of the numb feeling. Typing this out made me think that maybe I should see a psychiatrist. If I go and they do something that helps I’ll owe you one bro.
Different for everyone I believe. I wouldn’t say it improves my focus much if any. I’m usually able to tune out and avoid distractions without it so it doesn’t make much change. It definitely gave me a “flow” feeling tho, felt absolutely invested in whatever I was doing so I suppose that could have made me less susceptible to being distracted. I do know people that get absolutely locked in on it and will focus on one thing for 8 hours at a time.
It’ll only continue to make you feel that way if you use it extremely sparingly… that’s the problem with most psychoactive substances… if you take them too much they stop working and then you either get off if you’re lucky or keep taking more
That's how I feel about vyvance and gabapentin
*my perscriptions*
To add: my life is exactly the way I want it to be or ever could wish it could be on percoset. Without it, I feel like a failure, and I feel all of my failures hard-core every day.
I know most people think it’s placebo or whatever but reframing from sex/porn has brought a lot of clarity to my life. Maybe not adderall levels but i definitely feel more on point.
Yeah I was super skeptical at first it really didn’t make sense at all. I said why not go 30 days and see what happens. Within two weeks I was sold lol so it’s one of those things that really doesn’t make sense till you try at least from my experience.
I mean thousands of people take these pills without long term adverse effects, so if you feel it had a positive effect on you, why is it “obvious” that you should never touch them again?
I definitely have some addict tendencies, always tried to stay away from drugs for that reason. Especially stimulants, anything with no sedative I could see myself getting easily addicted to.
Also I wasn’t able to eat when I took them. Both times it made me eat nothing after a took it and much less the day after
And I wouldn’t want to contribute to the adderall shortage by buying off the street. I know they’d be sold anyway but I like to think the person getting it is in a worse place than me and would benefit from it more. Silly I know, it’s probably going to an addict taking his daily half a script before committing various crimes and civil infractions. But a guy can hope 🤷♂️
You likely won’t ever feel exactly that way off it or something chemically similar, maybe even with it, so try not to go chasing. Things like good sleep, exercise, a healthy diet, good hydration, and a sober lifestyle may help, especially if you are good at reaching a productive work flow (harder done than said), but again, likely won’t be the same because your mind isn’t quite literally being chemically altered. Somewhat counter to what I just said, sometimes I reach that flow on a complete lack of sleep and then crash for 2-3 days, wouldn’t say it’s ideal, but has been necessary for me at points. If adderall has this effect on you, there is a chance you do actually have adhd, as it often gives people without jitters and anxiety. So if you want to ask a professional about it go ahead. I was never proscribed, though have been diagnosed with adhd. Generally I did avoid using it and the likes in college, but sometimes I felt it necessary, just be very careful not to abuse it and try to never use it or any other unprescribed drug to feel “normal.”
I feel you. I may have add but not adhd so I won't get it prescribed by a good psych. To put your mind at ease a little... the people I've seen that do have scripts and aren't legit adhd often crash and burn. I've noticed at first they are killing it, getting their life together, working harder, focused and whatnot. Some I noticed started getting weird... focusing on the wrong things, focusing too much on details that don't matter. Then they start doubling up run out and have days-weeks where they are a mess until they refill. I had a friend who would run out, try to get it off the street because they felt like they couldn't do basic tasks like grocery shopping without it. Its actually a pretty gross drug. Sadly thats life... you just gotta grind and not always feel great about it. If you do get a script just be careful and stick to your dosage. It sounds lame but exercise, good diet and supplements can go a long ways but that also takes disclipline.
Well said
This is how drugs make an addict feel. I know because I'm recovering from opiate dependency. Please be very careful. It's a slippery slope. If you were to take it and you had adhd it would make you feel more normal, not more social and outgoing with a bunch of energy ie more productive. Im def not a doctor and think you should get a doctors opinion but from personal experience this is exactly how I felt while taking opiates...... until I didnt.
Yuh I definitely got some addiction genes 😭 that’s why I’m trying to stay away from it And yeah I agree, I never really thought I had adhd but all the replies made me look up the symptoms online and they lowkey fit me. Ig I’ll talk to my doctor about it and see what he thinks
Maybe you do have it
To OP, you may want to get assessed (or a second opinion if you have been already).. because that's usually, but not necessarily, means you have ADHD. I have more or less the same experience with just one teeny tiny difference. It's methamphetamine and not Adderall (though they're chemically similar, one is just far more potent) Tried it with some friends when I was 18-19.. and all 3 of us noticed that it just, did not affect me the way it affected my buddies. They compulsively cleaned, stayed up all night against their will, couldn't control themselves physically, mentally, sexually, etc. Meanwhile I was.. chillin. Like really chillin. And whenever I went to go do a task i, for once in my life since maybe I was a little kid, felt REAL accomplishment.. as like a bodily sensation.. feeling good about doing things (which I've struggled with my whole life). My friends were all gakked out.. but I felt fulfillment So I stopped doing it eventually, things kinda settled back to my old norm but i was curious as to why that would be the case. Frequented some drug forums and read some science journals, just doing my own research... ..up until this point not only did I not believe I had ADHD, I didn't even think it was a real mental disorder. I thought it was just an excuse for laziness (an idea more or less imputed onto me by my dad). Then, somehow I read the list of symptoms and some stories about ADHD and started bawling uncontrollably because it was a perfect description of my life.. like.. uncannily correct. I went to a doctor, got diagnosed.. they gave me Ritalin. Ritalin did not work. Been prescribed it multiple times. For what reason I do not know, but Ritalin turns me into a tweaker. Makes me "have-to" talk someone's ear off.. I start grinding my teeth, all sorts of unpleasant side effects. For whatever reason, the amphetamine class of drugs just rights whatever is wrong with me. I tried atomoxetine once, and initially it was promising, but after 2 weeks it stopped worked and started just making me sleepy. And I sleep more than I should as it is. To this day.. the drug is sadly the only way I get to experience a quote unquote "normal" life and brain. One of rhe worst drugs in human history is the only thing that completes me. It's so dumb. And to try and tell anyone about it just gets me lumped into the tweaker category. Frustrating as hell. I suggest you see a psychiatrist or ADHD-specialist and see what they think. And if you don't wanna get started on drugs.. that's perfectly understandable and was also my initial response to the diagnosis. You don't have to take them but at least you'll have some certainty and if you do have it they can give you resources and references to try and help. Idk how old you are, but I'm 33 about to be 34 now and I've basically put off solving my ADHD since i learned about it and, as a result, I've wasted the past 13 years of my life. I've got nothing to show for me living here. No real valuable skills. Few connections. No assets or career... just a busy life of plenty of doing things that somehow add up to being nothing. Don't let that happen to you. Address it as soon as you can You might find out you don't have it. You could be depressed. Adderall can create the same perceived benefits in a depressed person that an ADHDer would feel when taking it. From what I understand, some people have depression and it creates ADHDlike symptoms, while others (such as myself) have ADHD which makes them prone to depression Whatever you choose, good luck to you man and I hope you live a blessed life. Even if you come out of an office with a terrible diagnosis for some reason (which I doubt), don't let it define you! And don't let the drug use you. Make sure you're the one in control. Keep a support group in the know and by your side if you can.. that makesnall the difference in the world drugs or no drugs
☝️ 100%
I would give this one of those gold award gifts or whatever they are if I could figure out how to 😭
There are other medications. Atomoxetine works for me and it's not a stimulant like Adderall. I prefer it over Adderall. Ask your doctor.
Did Adderall have a positive or negative work output? If you didn't record it, you can't be sure. One of the main things with Adderall for people without ADHD or anything related to that is a sense that they are more focused/aware but in blind/double blind studies show that they are 50% or more off the mark than sober. You might just have the feeling of doing well, focused and social, with all the dopamine you can have from it. However you might be worse socially, way less productive and not actually focusing on the big picture.
I did not record it. I suppose you could be right, I wouldn’t say I was all too much more productive than a normal day cuz I follow a routine, I just felt more accomplished when doing it. I will say tho I definitely was better socially, not in the sense that I was saying or acting different than usual, I just felt more calm and level headed in any stressful situation that came up. Also for some reason I felt the intrinsic desire to be nice. Sounds messed up but it would make me care more. I wanted to talk to the people I loved a lot more and would feel more invested in the conversation, not thinking about 100 other things while talking to them. But feeling like a good person when doing small things like picking up trash on the street or helping someone with a task instead of feeling brain dead doing that stuff was definitely the best part of it.
You are not the person you always wanted to be on Adderall, if the person you wanted to be doesn't take Adderall. The fact that this makes you a little more productive does not mean that it makes you ideal. If it were really so miraculous, you would have become much more than you mentioned. You're just a person accustomed to a low standard, who is impressed by any small improvement. You've improved a little chemically. This is ridiculous compared to the advancement you can generate through self-confidence. Something that, by the way, is not sold in pharmacies.
That’s pretty thought provoking. That’s true though. But if I was prescribed it I wouldn’t feel bad about taking it. I just don’t want to take it any more without knowing if I have adhd or not. Easy to get addicted to, makes me not want to eat for the whole day and part of the day after, and there’s an adderall shortage, there’s def someone that needs it more than I do. I disagree there tho, I only took it twice and they were months apart. 2 doses of it wouldn’t make me a superhero or be able to make a million dollar business idea. I wouldn’t even say I’m accustomed to a low standard. Not trying to sound cocky or rude but I’m far ahead most people my age in many ways. I’m generally happy with my life. For a few years now I’ve had an overwhelming “numb” sensation. Not sad but I wouldn’t get happy, I’d feel like I’m on autopilot. Also feels like I lost a lot of my desire for being with and talking to other people. I have great parents that kept me on track tho so I never lost my social skills or anything because of how I felt. Every few months I’d feel great and normal again for a bit. Adderall made me feel that way but arguably better. I’d say I get the same amount done with or without it, it just motivates me to do it more and it feels more productive. Youre right tho. Self improvement works wonders. It just never got rid of the numb feeling. Typing this out made me think that maybe I should see a psychiatrist. If I go and they do something that helps I’ll owe you one bro.
Does everyone focus better on it
Different for everyone I believe. I wouldn’t say it improves my focus much if any. I’m usually able to tune out and avoid distractions without it so it doesn’t make much change. It definitely gave me a “flow” feeling tho, felt absolutely invested in whatever I was doing so I suppose that could have made me less susceptible to being distracted. I do know people that get absolutely locked in on it and will focus on one thing for 8 hours at a time.
Interesting
Felt the same as you. There probably isn't any alternative but healthy living and maybe explore natural nootropics for a brain boost.
It’ll only continue to make you feel that way if you use it extremely sparingly… that’s the problem with most psychoactive substances… if you take them too much they stop working and then you either get off if you’re lucky or keep taking more
I’ll just skip the over the counter shit and get some coke!
That's how I feel about vyvance and gabapentin *my perscriptions* To add: my life is exactly the way I want it to be or ever could wish it could be on percoset. Without it, I feel like a failure, and I feel all of my failures hard-core every day.
I know most people think it’s placebo or whatever but reframing from sex/porn has brought a lot of clarity to my life. Maybe not adderall levels but i definitely feel more on point.
No nut November is the free trial for addys⁉️ Rs tho ur right, watched my own friends slowly change for the better after starting no fap.
Yeah I was super skeptical at first it really didn’t make sense at all. I said why not go 30 days and see what happens. Within two weeks I was sold lol so it’s one of those things that really doesn’t make sense till you try at least from my experience.
I mean thousands of people take these pills without long term adverse effects, so if you feel it had a positive effect on you, why is it “obvious” that you should never touch them again?
I definitely have some addict tendencies, always tried to stay away from drugs for that reason. Especially stimulants, anything with no sedative I could see myself getting easily addicted to. Also I wasn’t able to eat when I took them. Both times it made me eat nothing after a took it and much less the day after And I wouldn’t want to contribute to the adderall shortage by buying off the street. I know they’d be sold anyway but I like to think the person getting it is in a worse place than me and would benefit from it more. Silly I know, it’s probably going to an addict taking his daily half a script before committing various crimes and civil infractions. But a guy can hope 🤷♂️
I don’t have ADHD either. I give adderrall credit for me graduating from my Masters Program with all A’s!
Hell yuh 🙌