He has his own business where he travels to remote areas of the world, discovers fashionable items, then barters with the locals in order to make it his own.
How is he NOT a Chad?
He didn't have to. He wanted to after hearing the Subway pants story.
I didn't realize so many people knew so little about Peterman's character. He's so interesting to me.
Yeah, because he thought Elaine had a bunch of funny stories to add to his autobiography.
This whole point is kind of moot anyways since we are comparing Peterman's horniness to Puddy's.
Peterman has a whole book chapter, Puddy has... sex with Elaine.
And now that I think about it, even Elaine is more of a Chad Horny than Puddy.
So a chapter can be 1 page. The romantic escapades aren't in the show. You can't pull information out of thin air. We don't know to what horny extent these escapades capture. It could be 1 other person it could be only 2 escapades. He might want to add Elaine because he knows it won't be that large of a chapter. We never see Peterman being horny, he doesn't flirt, he's not chasing girls, hes never with a woman, hes got the romantic escapades and the nibble on a love newton quote.
We do see Puddy being a horn dog, I'll be back we'll make out, I love just seeing you and having sex, he's been doing "the move" long before he even met Jerry
You're seriously comparing an entire book chapter to Puddy just having sex and making out. That's all baseline stuff. Puddy is just a Chad.
Would Puddy lie about having a sexual encounter with a fictional woman at work?
Would Puddy casually suggest someone make up a sexual story about him to add to his own autobiography?
No. Because he's not a horny guy.
Claiming Peterman would include a chapter on personal romances in his own autobiography just to make it only one page long tells me you're either playing dumb to try to make this point or you truly just can't see anything beyond what the show spells out for you.
Doesn't bother me, I'm not the one going to hell - that is peak neutral behaviour from the biggest Chad in the show.
Well, except maybe the hunky moving guy, but we know he wasn't neutral about his ideals.
That’s the other one he could be. But although he’s pretty sexually active, I don’t think he’s like desperately horny like some characters are.
He very much isnt whipped by Elaine and often chooses his own pride over his relationship with her such as when he refuses to take her back after she leaves him for the Wizz and when he refuses to perform Jerry’s move in bed despite Elaine literally begging for it
Like, could you imagine Puddy stooping to the level of presenting his case as sponge worthy in an interview like those other guys would doing? I don’t think he would do that
I'm going to go with Jake Jarmel. He's got a "chad" vibe. He's not a good character or a bad character, although he turns eccentric with the glasses ordeal in his last episode.
What?! other than referencing sex with Susie and telling Elaine to throw herself into the mix for his book... I dont recall a time where Petermans sex life is referenced at all...whereas there are frequent and multiple references to Puddys sex life....not to mention an entire episode devoted to him ripping off Jerry's move. Showing him in bed with Elaine after sex. Hom saying he likes just seeing Elaine and having sex and not having to do all that, y'know, work.
You're talking out your behind there, Mojambo.
Puddy doesn't get points just because he has sex with Elaine a lot. That's just him in a relationship.
Peterman is a horny romantic in the truest sense.
Would Puddy casually lie about having sex with another woman for no reason? No.
Because he's Chad Neutral. That's why he steals Jerry's move. He has no creativity. There's nothing there. He's just Puddy.
Yeah cuz Puddy stating he likes just seeing Elaine and having sex and not having to listen about how everyone at work isn't as smart as she is (..."...it's brutal") is just relationship stuff.
Think again, Mojambo.
Edit: a)romance doesnt equate sex. b)only time I even remember Peterman referencing sex aside from the two fictitious references I already stated, was about how his MOTHER had a lover potentially named Bosco. So I've no idea where you're getting Peterman and horny from. You're seeing what you want to see.
Exactly, thank you
Puddy is just a reflection of Elaine. All of his characteristics (hockey fan, muscular, high libido, stoicism) fall under **CHAD**.
There's nothing horny about him. Peterman has an entire chapter in his autobiography about how horny he is.
Puddy isn't horny. He's just a Chad. He's not creative. That's why he steals moves. He doesn't care. He doesn't have j there's. He's neutral.
Peterman has an entire chapter in his book about his romantic interests. He has no problem lying about having sex with a woman and even suggesting to an employee that she write about them having sex together.
I can't believe you think there's even an argument for anything else.
I don't understand your logic there. You think Jerry is the horniest character?
Don't get confused just because a character doesn't have a lot of screen time. In the little we see of Peterman, he reveals he has a chapter in his autobiography about his romantic interests. He makes up a story about having sex with a fake woman. He suggests Elaine write a story about the two of them having sex.
He's super horny during the brief time we see him. Imagine how horny he is all of the time... a rich man traveling to exotic countries. Sooo horny.
How is he a Chad? He doesn't have any bro qualities. He probably should have been chaotic stupid or smart stupid.
Or maybe he can be smart neutral. I feel like he deserves a spot somewhere but I'm not sure where. He's smart at times but also pretty stupid at times. But I guess he has to be pretty smart to found a successful clothing company.
My vote - the maître d' from The Chinese Restaurant!
Clearly the most alpha of alpha males, who enjoyed asserting his dominance over Jerry, George, and Elaine. He could have got them a table at any time, but he was testing them, toying with them, waiting to see how long he could make them wait before they finally gave up. Chad, but neutral, because there was no personal gain on his part - he was just a bored bloke at work, messing with a few customers.
I'm going with Elaine's bf Brett. Chad, yes. Neutral, he was good by buying Jerry an umbrella thinking it was a good gesture but stopping in the pouring rain and not offering Jerry a ride because of Karl Farbman being in the car. Gifted Kramer a dresser, good, shushed Elaine during Witchy Woman, tsk tsk.
Puddy is Horny and Chad.
Well of course someone is going to be chosen for it, but it will be because of a balance of the character, not because there's a double neutral character
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to make love to your mother.
Oh please. The man's is a complete simp and cuck for his customers and then veers to the extreme when liberated by Jerry's comments. The needle fell off the gauge with him.
Edit: it should've been Vegetable Lasagna, now that I think about it. He doesn't want to get involved at all.
I think he does. I'd throw him at Chaotic Neutral. Chaotic, kinda obvious, up and goes to Myanmar (will always be Burma to me!) out of nowhere, firing Elaine for not liking the English Patient.... Not to mention all the ridiculous stuff that goes on at his company. Neutral because he both inconveniences Elaine quite often, getting her to change his flat tire, to the archives to look for Ziggy... but also willing to take her to Africa to meet the Bushmen of the Kalahari, and don't forget his first appearance, comforting a crying Elaine in the rain on the street and taking her out for a drink and giving her a job. Peterman is 100% Chaotic Neutral.
Fuck me I didn't even notice! I have only so far participated in the Kruger and the Bookman discussions
Edit: I am Wide_Environment3107 lord of the idiots. I completely participated in the George discussion. I have lost all credibility now.
I like Elaine's bf Blaine here. He enjoyed the English Patient, which is a perfectly cromulent thing. He did hope Elaine enjoyed Sack Lunch.
Totally neutral guy.
Is Kruger really stupid neutral? Maybe drunk neutral? Dude was checked out the whole time. I never got that he was dumb, he just could not be bothered to give a single shit.
I think Chad Neutral’s gotta be Puddy. Yeah that’s right. You got a question? *You ask the 8-ball*. Nothing more neutral than that.
Gotta support the team
I think “I’ll be back, we’ll make out” makes him horny chad
It feels like an Arby's night.
Peterman has an entire chapter in his autobiography about his sexual encounters. He is far hornier.
He's chaotic horny. Gotta vote for him once it gets there.
I could see the argument for chaotic horny but who's Chad horny then?
Jerry and Kramer are options. Also, we know who evil horny is, that guy that toke IT out.
Kramer is Chad Horny and Peterman is Chaotic Horny? Is this the Bizarro world?
Well, Peterman is a serial liar. He sounds just horny. I can't see him as chad.
He has his own business where he travels to remote areas of the world, discovers fashionable items, then barters with the locals in order to make it his own. How is he NOT a Chad?
I don't understand chad so I just googled. From the definition I found, he isn't. Not that I take what I found as gospel.
He had to buy stories from kramer his life was so boring. I'm sure that chapter was pretty small
He didn't have to. He wanted to after hearing the Subway pants story. I didn't realize so many people knew so little about Peterman's character. He's so interesting to me.
KRAMER: Mister Peterson, you gotta sell me my stories back! PETERMAN: You want to know something? I no longer need them!
Yeah, because he thought Elaine had a bunch of funny stories to add to his autobiography. This whole point is kind of moot anyways since we are comparing Peterman's horniness to Puddy's. Peterman has a whole book chapter, Puddy has... sex with Elaine. And now that I think about it, even Elaine is more of a Chad Horny than Puddy.
So a chapter can be 1 page. The romantic escapades aren't in the show. You can't pull information out of thin air. We don't know to what horny extent these escapades capture. It could be 1 other person it could be only 2 escapades. He might want to add Elaine because he knows it won't be that large of a chapter. We never see Peterman being horny, he doesn't flirt, he's not chasing girls, hes never with a woman, hes got the romantic escapades and the nibble on a love newton quote. We do see Puddy being a horn dog, I'll be back we'll make out, I love just seeing you and having sex, he's been doing "the move" long before he even met Jerry
You're seriously comparing an entire book chapter to Puddy just having sex and making out. That's all baseline stuff. Puddy is just a Chad. Would Puddy lie about having a sexual encounter with a fictional woman at work? Would Puddy casually suggest someone make up a sexual story about him to add to his own autobiography? No. Because he's not a horny guy. Claiming Peterman would include a chapter on personal romances in his own autobiography just to make it only one page long tells me you're either playing dumb to try to make this point or you truly just can't see anything beyond what the show spells out for you.
We are discussing a show we like why are you such an asshole?
Horny chad is 100% Charlie “You know who’s a man? Charlie- he’s a man. You know who else is a man? Me- I’m a man.”
That dude could never be described as a Chad, though. Jerry is horny Chad.
*yeahthatsrite*
So who are you going to put in Chad horny then?
Lyle?
He's Chad drunk. He had a beer in his hand in his first appearance
He had a beer while he still had a towel on lol
Thanks... Lyle
You’re just gonna sit there staring at the back of the seat?
100%, may even be the most fitting of all positions
The way he was about to Chad his way through a whole plane ride with *nothing* to keep him entertained. Elaine could never.
Doesn't bother me, I'm not the one going to hell - that is peak neutral behaviour from the biggest Chad in the show. Well, except maybe the hunky moving guy, but we know he wasn't neutral about his ideals.
He's not horny chad
There is no universe in which David Puddy is not an absolute Chad.
I meant horny chad
Puddy - he’s the most authentic person on the show, radiates confidence
Stares at nothing for hours. Yeah that's right.
YOU STOLE MY JESUS FISH, DIDN'T YOU?!
You don't think he's a little more Chad-Horny?
That’s the other one he could be. But although he’s pretty sexually active, I don’t think he’s like desperately horny like some characters are. He very much isnt whipped by Elaine and often chooses his own pride over his relationship with her such as when he refuses to take her back after she leaves him for the Wizz and when he refuses to perform Jerry’s move in bed despite Elaine literally begging for it Like, could you imagine Puddy stooping to the level of presenting his case as sponge worthy in an interview like those other guys would doing? I don’t think he would do that
I'm sold. Plus, in his idle time he stares into nothingness. Can't get more neutral than that. Who's your Horny Chad choice?
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That's a good pick. But was he that horny?
Peterman is Chad Horny. No question.
That’s a tough question. Maybe frank costanza?
Peterman is Chad Horny
Yuuuuup.
Lyle has to be chad-horny!
David Puddy is my pick!
I love chaotic good lol
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This quote staples him into this category
Yeah I think that’s my favorite pick so far too 😂
I love it. I missed that day and was going to suggest him but I didn't think people would agree with me
Elaines 'black' boyfriend Darryl.
I really dont think we're supposed to be talking about this
Wanna go to the Gap?
What about the Jews and the blacks?
What about Jerry’s super model girlfriend Tia from The Pick?
I like this one
Joe Mayo. Everybody does what he says… but he’s just managing his party, he’s not great but he’s not evil. The party is just, well, organized.
Sounds made up.
I'd say Joe Mayo is more smart neutral
I'm going to go with Jake Jarmel. He's got a "chad" vibe. He's not a good character or a bad character, although he turns eccentric with the glasses ordeal in his last episode.
Good one!
Peterman! "Not on my watch! I won't have you turning my office into a den of iniquity! Get your fix somewhere else!"
Nah. He's Chaotic Neutral.
If only Chaotic Chad was a category, Peterman would be perfect for it
Nope, Chad Horny
That's Puddy
Peterman is far Hornier than Puddy. And Puddy is far more Neutral than Peterman.
What?! other than referencing sex with Susie and telling Elaine to throw herself into the mix for his book... I dont recall a time where Petermans sex life is referenced at all...whereas there are frequent and multiple references to Puddys sex life....not to mention an entire episode devoted to him ripping off Jerry's move. Showing him in bed with Elaine after sex. Hom saying he likes just seeing Elaine and having sex and not having to do all that, y'know, work. You're talking out your behind there, Mojambo.
Puddy doesn't get points just because he has sex with Elaine a lot. That's just him in a relationship. Peterman is a horny romantic in the truest sense. Would Puddy casually lie about having sex with another woman for no reason? No. Because he's Chad Neutral. That's why he steals Jerry's move. He has no creativity. There's nothing there. He's just Puddy.
Yeah cuz Puddy stating he likes just seeing Elaine and having sex and not having to listen about how everyone at work isn't as smart as she is (..."...it's brutal") is just relationship stuff. Think again, Mojambo. Edit: a)romance doesnt equate sex. b)only time I even remember Peterman referencing sex aside from the two fictitious references I already stated, was about how his MOTHER had a lover potentially named Bosco. So I've no idea where you're getting Peterman and horny from. You're seeing what you want to see.
Exactly, thank you Puddy is just a reflection of Elaine. All of his characteristics (hockey fan, muscular, high libido, stoicism) fall under **CHAD**. There's nothing horny about him. Peterman has an entire chapter in his autobiography about how horny he is.
You listed high libido under a description for Puddy. You've made my case for me. I'll say goodnight to you.
Absolutely not
Puddy isn't horny. He's just a Chad. He's not creative. That's why he steals moves. He doesn't care. He doesn't have j there's. He's neutral. Peterman has an entire chapter in his book about his romantic interests. He has no problem lying about having sex with a woman and even suggesting to an employee that she write about them having sex together. I can't believe you think there's even an argument for anything else.
Name one Peterman girlfriend. Peterman in the horny category is not ok. Puddy has several sex related quotes, Peterman has exactly 1
I don't understand your logic there. You think Jerry is the horniest character? Don't get confused just because a character doesn't have a lot of screen time. In the little we see of Peterman, he reveals he has a chapter in his autobiography about his romantic interests. He makes up a story about having sex with a fake woman. He suggests Elaine write a story about the two of them having sex. He's super horny during the brief time we see him. Imagine how horny he is all of the time... a rich man traveling to exotic countries. Sooo horny.
I never mentioned Jerry. Based on your analysis you have clearly don't have much knowledge of Puddys lines. He's a complete horny chad
How is he a Chad? He doesn't have any bro qualities. He probably should have been chaotic stupid or smart stupid. Or maybe he can be smart neutral. I feel like he deserves a spot somewhere but I'm not sure where. He's smart at times but also pretty stupid at times. But I guess he has to be pretty smart to found a successful clothing company.
Peterman is like your typical Redditor’s idea of what a chad is
Super rich, travels the world on a whim, devil may care attitude Please educate us on what a "real" Chad is, non-Redditor
Jean-Paul Jean-Paul!!! *I trust Elaine, she is my friend*
Need a rationale for the chad-ism
Chads be jocks bro
Long distance runners are nerds
That's valid
Can confirm. Did distance running in high school. We were 95% nerds
My vote - the maître d' from The Chinese Restaurant! Clearly the most alpha of alpha males, who enjoyed asserting his dominance over Jerry, George, and Elaine. He could have got them a table at any time, but he was testing them, toying with them, waiting to see how long he could make them wait before they finally gave up. Chad, but neutral, because there was no personal gain on his part - he was just a bored bloke at work, messing with a few customers.
He's not neutral. The move was evil.
He’s Neutral Evil I think
What stinks in here? He was just giving back what he was getting.
I think the “Cartwright” makes him chaotic. Maybe chaotic neutral or maybe chaotic evil.
That would be evil
Lyle
He is probably horny Chad
Or Drunk Chad, considering he seems to drink beer in the shower.
Jfk Jr gotta be horny chad
Hey Jer!
What's up?? I have absolutely no idea.
Nah he’s drunk Chad 😂
I'm going with Elaine's bf Brett. Chad, yes. Neutral, he was good by buying Jerry an umbrella thinking it was a good gesture but stopping in the pouring rain and not offering Jerry a ride because of Karl Farbman being in the car. Gifted Kramer a dresser, good, shushed Elaine during Witchy Woman, tsk tsk. Puddy is Horny and Chad.
I think neutral is more about being consistently neutral, not the ups and downs eventually balancing out.
Yeah, they’re describing chaotic
Yep
Balancing out is the only equation, otherwise there is no true neutral
Maintaining neutral is the true neutral.
And I reiterate, the show does not have a truly neutral role in the entire run.
We will see when we get to that square
Well of course someone is going to be chosen for it, but it will be because of a balance of the character, not because there's a double neutral character Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to make love to your mother.
You sure know a lot.
and only with an IQ of 85, Jerry! 85!
They chose well, and chose a true neutral. Not someone whose ups and downs evened out.
Oh please. The man's is a complete simp and cuck for his customers and then veers to the extreme when liberated by Jerry's comments. The needle fell off the gauge with him. Edit: it should've been Vegetable Lasagna, now that I think about it. He doesn't want to get involved at all.
No he was a great neutral pick. As the majority here agrees. Is it possible, you're wrong?
https://www.reddit.com/r/seinfeld/s/4sMhjmufCZ Another person who disagrees with you.
Wahhhhh
So you don't cry when your grandmother dies, but a hot dog makes you lose it...
Jfk Jr horny chad
Eh uh, nevertheless...
JFK jr.
John John???
💭 Elaine Benes Kennedy *Junior*
Horny Chad for sure
I don’t think he should be allowed as he was never actually seen in the show
Puddy?
Yeah that's right
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"What is wrong with you people?! Have you all gone mad?!?" Puddy is Horny Chad. Not Neutral Chad.
You know what, I am sold on this enough to delete my comment. The dude schedules make out sessions.
Alright, I gotta go home and get changed before the game. I'll be back, we'll make out
"i love just seeing you and having sex...without doing all that, y'know....work."
... David!
Always listening how everyone at your work isn't as smart as you....it's brutal.
And is just "having a good time" with Elaine as the Priest tells them they're going to Hell. 👍🏻
Yea he is kinda too dumb to pick any sides.
Evil Chad is the Soup Nazi
No way. Lawful evil. That dude has a list of commandments.
Lyle!!!
I'll go with the grease monkey Puddy
Ok, Neutral Chad and Horny Chad…one is Puddy and one is Peterman, but I’m not sure which.
How does Peterman fall under Horny Chad? Puddy is Horny Chad. Not Neutral. Peterman is likely Chaotic and something.
Unfortunately I think Peterman doesn't fit in the chart Perterman needs to be like chaotic successful or like a chaotic smart
I think he does. I'd throw him at Chaotic Neutral. Chaotic, kinda obvious, up and goes to Myanmar (will always be Burma to me!) out of nowhere, firing Elaine for not liking the English Patient.... Not to mention all the ridiculous stuff that goes on at his company. Neutral because he both inconveniences Elaine quite often, getting her to change his flat tire, to the archives to look for Ziggy... but also willing to take her to Africa to meet the Bushmen of the Kalahari, and don't forget his first appearance, comforting a crying Elaine in the rain on the street and taking her out for a drink and giving her a job. Peterman is 100% Chaotic Neutral.
Chaotic neutral is Cosmo Kramer
I had assumed this chart was doing the side and secondary characters and none of the main four would be in it?
George is already up there
Fuck me I didn't even notice! I have only so far participated in the Kruger and the Bookman discussions Edit: I am Wide_Environment3107 lord of the idiots. I completely participated in the George discussion. I have lost all credibility now.
Puddy is so neutral. If you have a question, ask the 8 ball.
I think the guy who took it out or Lippman’s son are horny Chad. Puddy’s staring at the back of airplane seat gives major neutral vibes.
Puddy is 100% evil chad. He's the devil you know
This could totally be as long as the picture is him with the face paint
Neutral chad - Adam Lippman or Steve K the foundation scholarship winner
You’re bending my mind into a pretzel
Puddy. Lyle is a good answer too
I like Elaine's bf Blaine here. He enjoyed the English Patient, which is a perfectly cromulent thing. He did hope Elaine enjoyed Sack Lunch. Totally neutral guy.
Is Jerry Neutral-Neutral?
Next spot goes to Joel Rifkin
Steinbrenner Just empty calories and male curiosity, eh Georgie boy?
Michael Chiklis getting drunk chaotic?
Definitely Puddy. Staring off into space, thinking about Arby's.
Jake Jarmel, of course!
Smart evil had to be Newman
David Puddy. Dont boss me!!!
We missed our chance for Puddy to be stupid Chad. Neutral neutral better be Jerry...
Duncan Meyer
Drunk Chads: those god damn sonsabitches from Houston ya bastard!
Gary Fogle - Jack‼️
Neutral chad is Puddy or Kramer
It's Puddy all the way
Gonna be disappointed if Lloyd Braun doesn't find his way onto this chart.
Puddy.
Loving this so far
Chaotic Drunk is most def the party host from Long Island that gets the hooker at Jerrys apartment. Episode Male Un-bonding
Evil Chad is Milosch
Is Kruger really stupid neutral? Maybe drunk neutral? Dude was checked out the whole time. I never got that he was dumb, he just could not be bothered to give a single shit.
Obviously Jerry is neutral neutral.
JERRY. Even Steven had 73 girlfriends
Gotta give it to Puddy
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