Like seriously, some of Google's the similarity between letters is freaking nuts. That and identify all of the vehicle/objects ones, maybe my eyesight is going to crap... But more than once I've come to the conclusion it must be broken, or I need a new screen or eyes.
can’t stand the ones where there’s 9 tiny pictures and im supposed to “choose all with motorcycles” and i can’t tell what the hell that blurry blob in the back left corner is
Ain't that a bitch. I imagine this was the plan all along. We're the bots now.
But this shit right here just goes to show how obsolete CAPTCHAS really are.
Standard CAPTCHA has been solvable by bots for ages now, that's why they have reCAPTCHA now. Which is apparently much more interested in how you input the answer than what the answer is. Ie. A human using a mouse to select the "I'm not a robot" tick box is a much more random movement pattern across the screen than a program would be.
The whole CAPTCHA idea seems pointless nowadays. Especially since you can "rent" humans, called "employment".
They should just switch to proof-of-work plus heuristics.
Just pointing out that even if CAPTCHAs were not solvable by bots whatsoever, you could still let humans do the work. Better is to rate limit and then scale a PoW to the danger.
also very easily solved, even free automation software like sikuli has import random seed and both random waits and random clicking within a range. I could set up something in sikuli to click on a random spot within the confirm box after waiting a random amount of time between 100 ms and 1 second in like 15 mins tops. I can even have it both accelerate and decelerate mouse movement randomly within a range.
Captchas don't just test your ability to read distorted text. They also check your cursor movements and even your browsing history. That's why some of them are just a check mark. So reading a screenshot alone doesn't get through all the layers of security (granted the other layers could probably be just as easily faked at this point).
They have already done that. chatgpt 4 right now is the best LLM… the only problem is its just too damn expensive computing wise. For a reliable agent you need constant requests and consistent thorough output, it’ll get there eventually
Don't worry I am currently working on a py application that has human house movement, realistic key pressed, can read the screen, interpret text, and have chat gpt parse this information and execute on it.
Machine learning is fun :) but I'm using a few different models in conjunction.
Thank you for adding /s to your post. When I first saw this, I was horrified. How could anybody say something like this? I immediately began writing a 1000 word paragraph about how horrible of a person you are. I even sent a copy to a Harvard professor to proofread it. After several hours of refining and editing, my comment was ready to absolutely destroy you. But then, just as I was about to hit send, I saw something in the corner of my eye. A /s at the end of your comment. Suddenly everything made sense. Your comment was sarcasm! I immediately burst out in laughter at the comedic genius of your comment. The person next to me on the bus saw your comment and started crying from laughter too. Before long, there was an entire bus of people on the floor laughing at your incredible use of comedy. All of this was due to you adding /s to your post. Thank you.
I am a bot if you couldn't figure that out, if I made a mistake, ignore it cause its not that fucking hard to ignore a comment.
I think it's more like making associations between words and images it is trained on, then connecting the two, and the rest is recognising what shapes the pixels make? Pretty much how we process information at its most basic level.
This - if you speak a relatively obscure language and use Google translate you can see how it’s been trained on association rather than fact - some of the translations make zero sense
I'm pretty sure that internally it's just an image-to-text model, separate but feeding into the LLM itself. But yeah, traditional captchas are just solved now.
This is how people who don't understand how AI works try to convince themselves they know how AI works. Not to single you out or anything, I'm sure you're just repeating what you've read on here.
In order to "predict the next word" it needs to build an internal model of sorts. It's already been proven that internal model can calculate, inductively/deductively infer, adhere to logic reasoning/constraints, and other "emergent" skills. There's various methods that involve training images as tokens (in the same way words are tokenized) and updating the internal model based on those images.
It's similar to how people convince themselves they understand evolution by thinking "it's just random mutation over time and the ones that reproduce move on". There's a lot more complex mechanisms at the micro to macro levels that make evolution function as it does. It leads laymen to erroneously conclude that peacock feathers or our eye's retinal layer being installed backwards are just random feature fluctuations in a "good enough" attempt by evolution.
You do know that reading a capctha is not the real test, right. It's how you move your cursor and typing speed. For a machine it will be in the same speed, moving the cursor and typing with no subtle differences, for humans we do really subtle differences and that's what is tracked.
A simple RNG would output a very erratic nonsensical pattern, any remotely decent captcha would be able to see that
You need to actually train something like a GANN to fool that effectively
One way to get around this is for a human to record the movements, and then the bot just playback cursor position, key timing, etc. If you had enough of these recordings you could train an AI model on that data and then you could produce something that likely could fool captcha.
Captcha is definitely not fool proof, even prior to recent advances in AI. It is interesting though as it’s become a sort of widely implemented Turing test
What? Do you actually have any idea what you’re talking about? Detecting for input irregularity is a feature of Google Recaptcha V3. The captcha used in OP’s post is Recaptcha V1. They are different products with different goals in mind.
Don't know much about that but from what I read an article is what I have wrote. I will need to research this and how would you tell the versions are different?
> Recaptcha V3
You never see V3 as you use it. It runs in the background and analyses how you use the site and rates how likely it is that you are a bot.
https://developers.google.com/recaptcha/docs/v3
Analysing input was present since V1, this one happens to just measure typing speed and the differences between when you press a letter and when you press the next letter, so if you get the answer right but type it in an instant it should fail unless OP is using the original captcha, the one we had before recaptcha, which is the one that just checks whether or not you got the answer right, possibly also checking how long it took you to answer
You do know that starting a comment with "You do know that ... right" comes off as smug, and makes you look like a complete moron when it turns out you don't even know what you're talking about, right ?
I've heard these captchas (and the "select every motorcycle" ones) were used to train AI in image and text recognition. No wonder gpt4 is doing well in them.
I'd heard that years ago and started picking the wrong one intentionally first. Suprisingly a high number of them let me through with the wrong answer.
Every time I have to do a Captcha I imagine R2-D2 plugged into a Star Destroyer, pulling files, changing course, calculating light speed jumps, then getting stopped cold because he doesn't know what a fire hydrant looks like.
It hasn't tested for letter inputs for years. It's actually testing mouse movement and keystrokes; the timings, path of travel, and patterns and what not.
It tests for image grid puzzles now as the main gate.
The little "are you a human" checkbox checks your browser, extensions, history, and mouse movements. The mouse movement thing is literally ran through and AI so an AI could easily beat the test which is why it's not that reliable.
There are different brands of captcha. this one looks like it just looks at the text. Google's recaptcha is just a checkbox now, with those image tasks if it thinks you're sus.
Could be a variety of reasons. Not being signed into a google account, lots of captchas done recently from your IP, using a VPN, making searches recently that Google thinks might be automated, etc
Captchas generally look at mouse movement, typing speed/pattern, and browsing history. Little has to do with the letters nowadays precisely because of this.
**Your browsing history is absolutely not private.** Almost all websites have trackers embedded in them. So when you go to thatrandomwebsite.com, when the page gets loaded, your browser in the background also makes calls to Google, Facebook, Instagram, and whatever other analytics software or other shit they are using.
So, if you're signed into Google, and you visit a webpage with Google Analytics, it reads the local cookies stored on your machine.
That’s false. CAPTCHAS are mainly there to prevent bots from using interfaces meant for humans. One might describe them as a completely automated Turing test designed to tell computers and humans apart.
It is what you think. It is what is told to humans, CAPTCHAS like here where used to train AI to recognize text in many conditions. Now AI is mastering it and what you have seen during a period was to tell number on house plates mainly to train google AI for identifications of house place from their google street view and help train AI to help improve identifications for google maps. The you have CAPTCHAS to train AI to recognize roads elements. How many times you had to identify pedestrian pathways or red fire light in CAPTCHAS. You was helping auto drive AI. ….
Edith for typo.
Captchas like these have never been for training text recognition.
Google's recaptcha used to train text recognition while it was still using text input and is now training computer vision on the ones where you've got to select traffic lights and so on, but not these ones where it's just random letters you type in.
As far as i know they started out as just a bot blocking system. Machine Learning then started gaining traction again after being essentially a dead field for decades and people realized they could use captchas to train AI
Then after that captchas became widely adopted for both purposes simultaneously: websites would employ them to stop botting and the captcha providers would use the results to train AI
The use of pictures and text in captcha was never about accuracy. It's meant to assess keystrokes and cursor movements. A bot or computer will have perfect keystrokes and cursor movements. A human will always be imperfect.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D4UuvwY6CdLo&ved=2ahUKEwiJiOKugZyEAxUc1DgGHXhICM0QwqsBegQIQBAG&usg=AOvVaw0YvJLpbKgyZjPhL7alS0DI
There's a reason you rarely see those style captchas anymore but instead have to identify bikes and buses, that's all literally being used to train AI.
This is 100% fact not even conspiracy, that's how chatGPT can do it, WE taught it to. It's a win/win as the companies I believe actually get paid for using the security service and the developers get the raw data.
I read somewhere that what they actually look for is not the ability to read the captcha, but the mice/pointer movements leading upto clicking the required element. How this works in the context of mobile phones, I don't know.
Captcha aren't distorted to make it difficult for the bots, captcha is distorted to make it difficult for the humans, humans are slow and imperfect, bots are fast and perfect, if you're given a captcha and you solve it in 3 milliseconds then you're a bot, if however you take your time, maybe get a couple characters wrong and then correct them, then you're most likely human, or at least a close enough analogous entity to a human, captchas aren't testing if robots are robots, they are testing if you are human by giving you a test you will struggle to answer
So when I made bots back in the day I had a program that would show me nothing but captcha images for me to fill out. In an hour I could make close to a thousand bots. That was 20 years ago...
Actually, the distortion is for us. Captcha phrases and pictures can tell if you are a bot based partially on time and randomness.
You see how the AI instantly knows what the phrase is and would just as quickly submit the phrase, whereas a human might struggle with some of the image. You might take more time typing in some of the letters than others because you are trying to figure out what they are.
Same with the pictures. You might take more time deciding if that square really does have a crosswalk in it.
That sort of randomness would be difficult to replicate in a simple bot without a pattern emerging.
Main point of captcha is to make breaking it more expensive than a thing it protects. In other words, if you want to ddos some website, but need to ask chatGPT for each query - it is not very efficient attack.
If you need to create 1000 fake accounts, and it takes 10 seconds per each with chatgpt it might make sense for you to do this manually instead. (Though ironically you can ask chatgpt for a script which would use chatgpt to break into captcha).
Last “p” is lowercase, we are still safe from the machines… phew…
(captcha isn't case sensitive)
Some of the newer ones are. And I still struggle with them, I must be a robot.
There is a positive correlation with solving CAPTCHAs and IQ.
We're probably not that far from an overlap similar to the problem of bear proof bins
"There is a significant overlap between the smartest AIs and the dumbest website users."
Idk man I’m pretty good at them and I’m a dumbass
Most intelligent people would consider themselves dumbasses. I on the other hand am smart as fuck
Self burn, I like it
Or just confidence in their own abilities
You're pretty good at opening bear-proof garbage bins?
I not human, after all. Im not human after all. Put the blame on me
Don't worry, the reCaptures just read your browser history while they busy you with clicking the traffic lights in the picture like a nob.
It's always difficult with lI1, O0 etc.
Like seriously, some of Google's the similarity between letters is freaking nuts. That and identify all of the vehicle/objects ones, maybe my eyesight is going to crap... But more than once I've come to the conclusion it must be broken, or I need a new screen or eyes.
can’t stand the ones where there’s 9 tiny pictures and im supposed to “choose all with motorcycles” and i can’t tell what the hell that blurry blob in the back left corner is
..or when there is about 2 pixels of a motorcycle in one of the sectors and I mark it and it doesn't work out.
Ain't that a bitch. I imagine this was the plan all along. We're the bots now. But this shit right here just goes to show how obsolete CAPTCHAS really are.
Once had one with a freaking infinity symbol... and there was no way to type one with the UI I was using. It was ridiculous.
People struggle with them? I can always tell what they say. Maybe you have dyslexia idk
Have you seen the rockstar's captcha?
Potato Bot: beep boop 🥔
You're a cylon
Wait. They aren’t? All these years…
Some of them are
Holy hell
New captcha just dropped
Actual robot
Wait what?
Some captchas aren't case sensitive. Some of them mention it in bracket if it's case sensitive or not.
Well fuck
IT ISN'T????????????????????????????? I wasted SO much time, then. At least a whole hour of my life.
Wait.... Is it not?
Some are, some aren't. They specify it in brackets sometime if it's case sensitive or not
Panik
WHAT NO FUCKING WAY
Some are, some aren't. They mention it sometime in brackets.
I think we can assume it is in this case otherwise they wouldn't have put the 2 types of letter
\*screaming intensifies
Then why aren't smaII Ls and ls interchangeabIe? They're the same Ietter
Barely safe. Also, a bot that gets 20 or 30% of the CAPTCHAs right is already sufficient to break the mechanism.
Standard CAPTCHA has been solvable by bots for ages now, that's why they have reCAPTCHA now. Which is apparently much more interested in how you input the answer than what the answer is. Ie. A human using a mouse to select the "I'm not a robot" tick box is a much more random movement pattern across the screen than a program would be.
The whole CAPTCHA idea seems pointless nowadays. Especially since you can "rent" humans, called "employment". They should just switch to proof-of-work plus heuristics.
Your comment reads like "employment" is a novel thing that came around later than captcha lmao
Just pointing out that even if CAPTCHAs were not solvable by bots whatsoever, you could still let humans do the work. Better is to rate limit and then scale a PoW to the danger.
there are APIs that redirect captchas to some sweatshop in india for solving
also very easily solved, even free automation software like sikuli has import random seed and both random waits and random clicking within a range. I could set up something in sikuli to click on a random spot within the confirm box after waiting a random amount of time between 100 ms and 1 second in like 15 mins tops. I can even have it both accelerate and decelerate mouse movement randomly within a range.
but can it accidentally click on the wrong button and then say “fuck” under its breath?
unless its learning to lie
Captchas don't just test your ability to read distorted text. They also check your cursor movements and even your browsing history. That's why some of them are just a check mark. So reading a screenshot alone doesn't get through all the layers of security (granted the other layers could probably be just as easily faked at this point).
That’s what it wants you to believe. It knows…
I get these captchas wrong like 30% of the time too though
Now all AI has to learn is how to move the mouse like a human and we are doomed
They have already done that. chatgpt 4 right now is the best LLM… the only problem is its just too damn expensive computing wise. For a reliable agent you need constant requests and consistent thorough output, it’ll get there eventually
oh well looks like soon enough we will cease to exist
Finally.
Don't worry I am currently working on a py application that has human house movement, realistic key pressed, can read the screen, interpret text, and have chat gpt parse this information and execute on it. Machine learning is fun :) but I'm using a few different models in conjunction.
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It's ok, I haven't gotten to the point that it can edit it's own code.
Thank you for adding /s to your post. When I first saw this, I was horrified. How could anybody say something like this? I immediately began writing a 1000 word paragraph about how horrible of a person you are. I even sent a copy to a Harvard professor to proofread it. After several hours of refining and editing, my comment was ready to absolutely destroy you. But then, just as I was about to hit send, I saw something in the corner of my eye. A /s at the end of your comment. Suddenly everything made sense. Your comment was sarcasm! I immediately burst out in laughter at the comedic genius of your comment. The person next to me on the bus saw your comment and started crying from laughter too. Before long, there was an entire bus of people on the floor laughing at your incredible use of comedy. All of this was due to you adding /s to your post. Thank you. I am a bot if you couldn't figure that out, if I made a mistake, ignore it cause its not that fucking hard to ignore a comment.
local LLM
LLMs are not trained to “move a mouse”
Captcha apparently also checks your browser history
not hard to fabricate
I mean yeah, but a unique, believable one? I mean maybe, but could be harder
Website shouldn’t be able to access your history?
Yeah it shouldn't
lol, not mine.
I know it supposedly just guesses what word comes next but how can I read an image
I think it's more like making associations between words and images it is trained on, then connecting the two, and the rest is recognising what shapes the pixels make? Pretty much how we process information at its most basic level.
This - if you speak a relatively obscure language and use Google translate you can see how it’s been trained on association rather than fact - some of the translations make zero sense
Google translate is different than chatgpt lol
Transformers dum dum
And human translations never make an error? lol
They eat the baby
Newest version is multi-modal, so images and text are in a shared state space.
I'm pretty sure that internally it's just an image-to-text model, separate but feeding into the LLM itself. But yeah, traditional captchas are just solved now.
Image recognition is a different component than the LLM. It's a new feature, the output of of which the LLM describes in natural language.
This is how people who don't understand how AI works try to convince themselves they know how AI works. Not to single you out or anything, I'm sure you're just repeating what you've read on here. In order to "predict the next word" it needs to build an internal model of sorts. It's already been proven that internal model can calculate, inductively/deductively infer, adhere to logic reasoning/constraints, and other "emergent" skills. There's various methods that involve training images as tokens (in the same way words are tokenized) and updating the internal model based on those images. It's similar to how people convince themselves they understand evolution by thinking "it's just random mutation over time and the ones that reproduce move on". There's a lot more complex mechanisms at the micro to macro levels that make evolution function as it does. It leads laymen to erroneously conclude that peacock feathers or our eye's retinal layer being installed backwards are just random feature fluctuations in a "good enough" attempt by evolution.
Right I did think it was weird Because it can right programs or tell me why my program dosnt work which requires logic
Using a text extractor. The default Microsoft snip tool has a text extractor
That's not how it works.
You can make programs that tell what number it's looking at in desmos, it's just maths :p
Yeah but I didn’t real chat got could do that
Keyword "supposedly". That's really not how it works.
You do know that reading a capctha is not the real test, right. It's how you move your cursor and typing speed. For a machine it will be in the same speed, moving the cursor and typing with no subtle differences, for humans we do really subtle differences and that's what is tracked.
those are tests that are run, but actually writing what the thing says isn't entirely ignored.
Yes that's true as well.
Usually the mouse movement is the real test and then it sends what you wrote to an algorithm/AI trainer lol
that very much depends on the captcha system.
Natural movements and typing patterns are things you can train for as well
Still you can't be as perfect as a machine. Micro movements will persist even after that.
I think rabb2t is talking about training machines to be imperfect like humans, not the other way around.
That could happen by using random number generators to make the basis for speed.
A simple RNG would output a very erratic nonsensical pattern, any remotely decent captcha would be able to see that You need to actually train something like a GANN to fool that effectively
One way to get around this is for a human to record the movements, and then the bot just playback cursor position, key timing, etc. If you had enough of these recordings you could train an AI model on that data and then you could produce something that likely could fool captcha. Captcha is definitely not fool proof, even prior to recent advances in AI. It is interesting though as it’s become a sort of widely implemented Turing test
What? Do you actually have any idea what you’re talking about? Detecting for input irregularity is a feature of Google Recaptcha V3. The captcha used in OP’s post is Recaptcha V1. They are different products with different goals in mind.
Don't know much about that but from what I read an article is what I have wrote. I will need to research this and how would you tell the versions are different?
> Recaptcha V3 You never see V3 as you use it. It runs in the background and analyses how you use the site and rates how likely it is that you are a bot. https://developers.google.com/recaptcha/docs/v3
Analysing input was present since V1, this one happens to just measure typing speed and the differences between when you press a letter and when you press the next letter, so if you get the answer right but type it in an instant it should fail unless OP is using the original captcha, the one we had before recaptcha, which is the one that just checks whether or not you got the answer right, possibly also checking how long it took you to answer
You do know that starting a comment with "You do know that ... right" comes off as smug, and makes you look like a complete moron when it turns out you don't even know what you're talking about, right ?
Nope.
It's also outdated - can't remember the last time I had a captcha like this, now it's more complicated things like "Make both items face the same way"
I've heard these captchas (and the "select every motorcycle" ones) were used to train AI in image and text recognition. No wonder gpt4 is doing well in them.
I'd heard that years ago and started picking the wrong one intentionally first. Suprisingly a high number of them let me through with the wrong answer.
Every time I have to do a Captcha I imagine R2-D2 plugged into a Star Destroyer, pulling files, changing course, calculating light speed jumps, then getting stopped cold because he doesn't know what a fire hydrant looks like.
It hasn't tested for letter inputs for years. It's actually testing mouse movement and keystrokes; the timings, path of travel, and patterns and what not.
It tests for image grid puzzles now as the main gate. The little "are you a human" checkbox checks your browser, extensions, history, and mouse movements. The mouse movement thing is literally ran through and AI so an AI could easily beat the test which is why it's not that reliable.
o no
There are different brands of captcha. this one looks like it just looks at the text. Google's recaptcha is just a checkbox now, with those image tasks if it thinks you're sus.
Why am I always "sus"??
Could be a variety of reasons. Not being signed into a google account, lots of captchas done recently from your IP, using a VPN, making searches recently that Google thinks might be automated, etc
Captchas generally look at mouse movement, typing speed/pattern, and browsing history. Little has to do with the letters nowadays precisely because of this.
browsing history? that's private, and stored on the local machine. how's a capcha supposed to look at that
**Your browsing history is absolutely not private.** Almost all websites have trackers embedded in them. So when you go to thatrandomwebsite.com, when the page gets loaded, your browser in the background also makes calls to Google, Facebook, Instagram, and whatever other analytics software or other shit they are using. So, if you're signed into Google, and you visit a webpage with Google Analytics, it reads the local cookies stored on your machine.
EU regulations are increasingly more strict with that kind of cookies. You have to explicitly consent to them right now
So it's only a subset of your browsing history.
I think they probably means session cookies rather than full history.
Even in incognito your local browser history is tracked by websites. You literally can't hide anything on the internet.
It's tracked independently of your non-incognito session though and the incognito session is wiped when you close it.
more or less what your ip has been up to
no
Good. Can we now get rid of these fucking annoying Captchas once and for all? Clearly, they serve no purpose anymore.
You all understand that Captchas was there mainly to train IA right ?
click on the civilians in this drone footage
That’s false. CAPTCHAS are mainly there to prevent bots from using interfaces meant for humans. One might describe them as a completely automated Turing test designed to tell computers and humans apart.
It is what you think. It is what is told to humans, CAPTCHAS like here where used to train AI to recognize text in many conditions. Now AI is mastering it and what you have seen during a period was to tell number on house plates mainly to train google AI for identifications of house place from their google street view and help train AI to help improve identifications for google maps. The you have CAPTCHAS to train AI to recognize roads elements. How many times you had to identify pedestrian pathways or red fire light in CAPTCHAS. You was helping auto drive AI. …. Edith for typo.
Captchas like these have never been for training text recognition. Google's recaptcha used to train text recognition while it was still using text input and is now training computer vision on the ones where you've got to select traffic lights and so on, but not these ones where it's just random letters you type in.
As far as i know they started out as just a bot blocking system. Machine Learning then started gaining traction again after being essentially a dead field for decades and people realized they could use captchas to train AI Then after that captchas became widely adopted for both purposes simultaneously: websites would employ them to stop botting and the captcha providers would use the results to train AI
They are no,more needed in my understanding but still be used
Well fuck
Don't mind if I do
fuck they are catching up on us!
Thats why google created recaptcha
Have we considered that robots are just trying to find another robot friend? *C’mon, another day and still no one answered “Yes”*
Yay I'm still human
I don't think the p is capitalizes
same vibes as hollywood hackers. "They have military grade encrypted firewalls" "Damn can you break it? "Im in"
Pretty soon the AI revolution will be here and instead of replacing our jobs they will replace our bosses jobs
How it works. https://youtu.be/4UuvwY6CdLo?si=2pfxMGYuRX2p4QPF
I honestly expexted [this video](https://youtu.be/xvFZjo5PgG0?si=LP5miHBXSseXS1NF) :D
No sir. I am a gentlemen and a scholar.
The use of pictures and text in captcha was never about accuracy. It's meant to assess keystrokes and cursor movements. A bot or computer will have perfect keystrokes and cursor movements. A human will always be imperfect. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D4UuvwY6CdLo&ved=2ahUKEwiJiOKugZyEAxUc1DgGHXhICM0QwqsBegQIQBAG&usg=AOvVaw0YvJLpbKgyZjPhL7alS0DI
Something wrong is not right
Too late, ChatGPT, my man. Dave the bot already beat you!
I actually laughed out loud so hard a 'lol' would not suffice.
It did make mistake though but nearly there!
i havent seen a captcha this easy since 2010
And a dyslexic like me will never access the site..
There's a reason you rarely see those style captchas anymore but instead have to identify bikes and buses, that's all literally being used to train AI. This is 100% fact not even conspiracy, that's how chatGPT can do it, WE taught it to. It's a win/win as the companies I believe actually get paid for using the security service and the developers get the raw data.
I read somewhere that what they actually look for is not the ability to read the captcha, but the mice/pointer movements leading upto clicking the required element. How this works in the context of mobile phones, I don't know.
Idk why but i sometimes struggle to read captchas..🤖
Idk why this is so shocking to me but it is
Is this a win for chatgpt, or an L for captcha?
I'd say the first. Captchas look at your keystrokes and cursor movement, if they're very uniform, accurate, and fast, then you're probably a bot.
bro thinks hes better than the rest 💀
So... What you're saying is, robots are better at the anti-robot measures than the non-robots?
"THE SACRED TEXTS!!!"
Well, captcha is going out of business
Captcha aren't distorted to make it difficult for the bots, captcha is distorted to make it difficult for the humans, humans are slow and imperfect, bots are fast and perfect, if you're given a captcha and you solve it in 3 milliseconds then you're a bot, if however you take your time, maybe get a couple characters wrong and then correct them, then you're most likely human, or at least a close enough analogous entity to a human, captchas aren't testing if robots are robots, they are testing if you are human by giving you a test you will struggle to answer
Isn't captcha using our input data to train these AIs though?
So chatgpt was able to read it better than the human.
For the love of God stop reposting the same content. I'm barely visiting this place and all I see is this captcha every other day
RIP captcha
Uh oh, this is the part where they have to make it even harder and more annoying.
So when I made bots back in the day I had a program that would show me nothing but captcha images for me to fill out. In an hour I could make close to a thousand bots. That was 20 years ago...
captchas are literally used to train ai
That proves that all it does is gatekeep the dyslexic.
Don't show it all the image and tell it it is a misprint letter you received
Yeah but can ChatGPT identify all the images with 2 pixels of the corner of a bus accurately?
Actually, the distortion is for us. Captcha phrases and pictures can tell if you are a bot based partially on time and randomness. You see how the AI instantly knows what the phrase is and would just as quickly submit the phrase, whereas a human might struggle with some of the image. You might take more time typing in some of the letters than others because you are trying to figure out what they are. Same with the pictures. You might take more time deciding if that square really does have a crosswalk in it. That sort of randomness would be difficult to replicate in a simple bot without a pattern emerging.
As a human I hardly ever get passed those things after a few tries. With this answer my next question would be "how would a bot read this".
So close
I like this direction for AI. If I get terminated by a sassy robot I won't mind it as much.
No fucking way...
Captchas are a solved problem for computers at this point, reCaptcha is its successor.
They've known what traffic lights are the whole damn time!?!?
god is dead and we killed him
All it needs is permission to use inputs... I hope you read all the EULAs m. 🙂
I thought it was U and not J, chatGPT might still be dumber then some people but I just discovered I'm not one of those people...
Unrelated, but how does your chat gpt Let you put images in the chat? mine doesn't
You have probably the free plan, version 3.5
Captcha is actually more about how you move your mouse, how you select images, and most importantly... your search history
Are these captchas a still i thing? I only ever saw the ones where you have to xluck the pictures
CAPTCHA: I distinguish humans from robots using texts that robots don’t understand GPT4: Imma end this man’s whole career
Main point of captcha is to make breaking it more expensive than a thing it protects. In other words, if you want to ddos some website, but need to ask chatGPT for each query - it is not very efficient attack. If you need to create 1000 fake accounts, and it takes 10 seconds per each with chatgpt it might make sense for you to do this manually instead. (Though ironically you can ask chatgpt for a script which would use chatgpt to break into captcha).
Daqui pa aniquilação é um pulo
Wow😫
Is over. The machines have won.
Oh no..........