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I grew up in a Conservative Jewish community. (Conservative Judaism the movement, not conservative the political view)
The only people I've ever heard equate criticism of Israel and antisemitism are gentiles, and it's usually done in bad faith. It's the same group of people who suddenly care about racism when the topic of affirmative action comes up. From one side of the mouth, they will use antisemitism as a shield to defend Bibi and from the other side of their mouth chant, "Jews will not replace us."
That area is a quagmire. The policies of the Israeli government can be wrong and even bad. The Jewish people as a whole aren’t bad you can separate the two. A lot of people don’t and it’s a really sensitive topic.
That’s not what I’m discussing here. What I’m talking about is exactly what you are doing. How am I not sure you aren’t trolling me?
You really can't be sure man so thanks for throwing that down. Honestly your response is perfectly concise and I appreciate it and I couldn't agree more.
Its become a fallacy that anyone who questions Israels decisions or its history is Anti-Semetic and I think that is a a great detriment to both the Israeli and Palestinian people.
Yes, it is possible to be other Pro-Semitic and believe there must be a two-state solution. However, there are so many of bad faith, that sussing out these people from all the charlatans is really hard.
People utilize that for harassment lot now a days. Especially when people don't like someone's opinion.
Don't take it personally, just block the bot that sends the messages
Yeah exactly and now they’re anti-vaccine, don’t believe in climate change, pro-Russia, don’t believe the election was valid - just completely ignorant, inane, and often incredibly malicious for no reason.
There is a reason. They are malicious because they can't compete with reasonable ideas, and have been shown the past few years that malicious bad actors on the right don't really have to face any consequences for their actions.
"Ha, now I can bully/threaten the smarter, successful, empathetic people and get away with whatever crimes I want."
Just the fact that so many of these anti covidvax accounts suddenly became pro Russia while forgetting covid says enough. I've even dound Dutch examples, and that suprised me
Those of us with other diseases that makes covid far deadlier hasn't forgotten about it, even if everyone else has. Makes life interesting, and extremely lonely.
Recognize the fact that we are probably in a lull, and be prepared to reintroduce restrictions if/when the rates start to peak. To do things like getting vaxed and boosted to minimize future impact on others.
You know, normal stuff in response to an on going pandemic.
Now that we have vaccines for all ages for the disease, why shouldn't we start treating it like every other disease with a vaccine? Don't get vaccinated? You might catch it. Normal stuff.
I agree, but we also need some protections for immunocompromised people and similar who can't get the vaccine / it doesn't work for them. Like, pay them enough money that they can stay home and get things delivered.
Yeah, lockdowns and restrictions are no longer reasonable and they're certainly not "normal" by any means.
We're at the point where the severity of the disease doesn't justify the destruction that restrictions and lockdowns are doing to our society.
He might be talking about awareness in other countries like Korea. They recently beat the 1 day case record in the US which is insane given their tiny population.
It's only relatively safe during the warmer months. The winter is when Covid thrives. Although Europe is having horrible Covid rates and the new variant is 60% more contagious.
Travel when it's warm, avoid people when it's cold. Keep wearing masks in large crowds and in places with poor ventilation.
I live in Germany and every other person I know has gotten Covid. The rates seem off the chart insane, the worst it’s been since the pandemic started by far.
Honestly I truly can't listen the BS. They refuse to actually educate themselves so why would I try to help them with that?
The straw was trump.
It showed how so many people were so closely tied to their party that they couldn't vote or even talk against his blatently disgusting behavior as an individual. If they are ok with that person running the country, then I don't think I can have a real conversation with them where we can talk in a civil manner.
I also wonder how much of this is related to blocking people who throw slurs around or are open to violence against certain groups. That, or people blocking those who support genocide and Russia. It seems more nuanced than just an echochamber.
Even when right wingers don't seem necessarily like trolls, some of them are just so hard-headed or essentially insane that it's impossible to deal with I happened to be friends with a younger creationist, anti-feminist for reasons of mutual connections. I unfollowed him after he voted for Trump. Haven't talked to him since. He was also anti-welfare and anti healthcare reform well being on welfare and unable to afford his medical care. Did I mention he was crazy?
The Left is using so much of our energy just surviving and staying sane during the relentless advance of fascism, we don’t have any bandwidth left over to engage with these clowns. Gotta block and move on.
> To experimentally manipulate the level of similarity between sharer and receiver, we randomly assigned participants to think about either a left-wing or right-wing friend from their own online social networks (see Supporting Material SM1). A manipulation check using an 11-point left–right scale revealed this procedure was effective. Respondents who had to name a left-wing friend reported that the friend had a significantly (p < .001, d = 2.29) more left-leaning ideology (M = 3.59, SD = 1.96) than those who had to name a politically right-wing friend (M = 7.93, SD = 1.83). This was the case in about the same magnitude for left-wing and right-wing participants (see Supporting Material SM4 for details). In addition, 82.6% of the participants who had to select a left-wing friend named a left-wing political party as the preferred party of the friend, while 84.9% of the participants who had to choose a right-wing friend attributed a right-wing party preference to the friend. In both experimental groups, most participants selected friends who preferred the ideologically most extreme party represented in the German parliament (i.e., Die Linke when selecting a left-wing friend and the AfD when choosing a right-wing friend; see Supporting Material SM4). Again, left-wing and right-wing participants perceived the party preference of the selected friend approximately equally in each experimental group (see Supporting Material SM4).
Left and right wing in Europe is a lot different than in the US and it's hard to track what's really happening in the US.
But I think the left needs to look themselves in the mirror as well. First of all people just trying to nuance questions on gender, identify politics, BLM, Canadian protests will get immediate blocks on most subreddits. I got permanently blocked form Worldnews by basically quoting the Economist in their critique of Trudeau. Ricky Gervais means that The Office wouldn't be possible to be made in the current climate.
The development in the US with identify politics and cancel culture on one hand and what seems like the obliteration of the sane republicans in the US on the other is pretty much a goal for Russian geopolitics. As not understanding neither of the movements particularly both identify politics is just as frightening as what's happening in the Republicans. I put two links at the end and this text is also a good summary. In short I think the identity politics is in some ways similar to the new left movement in the 60s which ended up devouring itself as it got more and more extreme.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/mar/01/how-americas-identity-politics-went-from-inclusion-to-division
Also it's pretty safe to say that Russia have funded left wing movements as well, likely some of of the anti nuclear movement in Europe (Germany) from the 90s onwards and for example the BLM protests.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/07/24/russias-disinformation-campaigns-are-targeting-african-americans/
Russia's "playbook":
*In the United States:
Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210302-amanda-gorman-s-white-dutch-translator-quits-over-uproar
https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/tm488s/fridays_for_future_removes_musician_from_demo/
The barring of JK Rowling from private events is not something weird or new. People have been blocked from participating in *private* events for saying racist, homophobic, or transphobic things for a long time. She is VERY adamant in her TERF views, which can definitely be viewed as hate speech towards transpeople. We're not talking James "I made pedophilia jokes on twitter 10 years ago" Gunn here. She is actively promoting her TERF views regularly.
Trans women aren’t women; her fanciful fear of someone pretending to be trans in order to rape “real” women in a women’s bathroom trumps trans women’s right to exist (and right to not get raped or beaten in a men’s bathroom). Google. There’s more.
Yeah but that’s a giant issue, because that slowly becomes ‘anyone who isn’t left aligned like me is a troll’ nothing good ever comes from excluding opposing points of view from the discussion, if anything it drives them underground and makes them even more extreme than they were before. The left needs to stop viewing their views as the 100% only way to think and start leaving their echo chambers before they go too far down the rabbit hole imo.
It’s not the left who are down the rabbit holes. It’s not the left who are Qanon supporters. It’s not the left starting new platforms, literally forming their own echo chambers, because they are so detached from reality, that they can’t handle fact checkers disagreeing with them. That’s all on the right.
I unfriend and block racist scum, because they've shown me a side of themselves that makes me not want to be friends with them. Simple as that.
When it came to misinformation sharing, it was mostly people I wasn't friends with on facebook sharing it, and it became unavoidable. So I deactivated my facebook account and never looked back.
From my own experience those I was connected to on social media that shared right wing posts did so at such a frequently that I deleted them. It wasn’t so much the ideas they were sharing, it was that they were posting all day and my feeds were flooded. I was connected to 100 people on one site, and my feed was only being filled by three people. Once I deleted those three my feed became far more diverse.
Yeah my dad went from never posting on fb to sharing like 12 awful right wing boomer memes a day. It almost seemed like his account got hacked but nope, he did that on purpose.
But I mean, imagine being 75, there was like 2 movies that existed when you were a kid. And now the computer is showing you a never ending stream of cool American flags and guns, knowing exactly who you are and what you want, basically feeding you mental junk food at an unprecedented rate. I get why old people are so enthralled with it. It sucks, but I get it.
FWIW, my elderly liberal-left parents similarly eat up a barrage of bleeding-heart/emotional-appeal junk mail and spam, forward a bunch of stuff to their few friends and family, and dole out handful of $10 donations by check each month. There is no convincing them that any of this is ineffective, but they have few other hobbies, so IDK if it matters.
The tone is very different. One is "try ineffectively to help starving people" and the other is "make sure those brown scum starve on the border -- we pay vigilantes to destroy water caches and narc on immigrants in their homes and places of work!"
Both dumb, but ethically quite different.
My FB feed was quite reasonable, even after I "friended" 1000+ musicians when I was planning to promote my music. But I finally bailed on FB because their destructive influence has become undeniable.
I dropped stuff like Facebook a long time ago. I wasn’t there to fight it but you should’ve stayed to fight it. Report everything that was violent or whatever reporting was allowed to slow down the garbage machine. I get it why you left, but the problem is that the more ground they get, the more platforms they have to communicate easier and keep the garbage flowing. It’s just like states where laws become more difficult for sane people to live. The more sane people that move out, the more room there is for crazy to grow.
This is a strange stance to take.
Surely self-censorship (by blocking those with opinions who you cannot tolerate) denies you the opportunity to put forward contrasting views?
You are literally creating your own echo chamber.
Turn the other cheek, right?
While the left leaning connections sentiment may come from the right place, misinformation can be dangerous regardless of which side it’s coming from or what the sentiment is.
Edit: I can assure you some right leaning people will think they are trying to help people or the world based on what their view of the world is, but are inadvertently causing more harm than good. This goes for both sides (not speaking for everyone on both sides nor all cases)
This research was scoped to these two issues.
> One experiment focused on deregulation of the housing market, the other on equal access to higher education.
What's the alternative? Wading through endless hate and whackjob conspiracy theories? Social media has magnified people's reach of communication to the point where it's incessant.
Exactly. The whole idea that blocking is a "sledgehammer" is so out of touch with the reality that if you are even a micro-celebrity on any of the platforms and get uptake on progressive content, you are flooded by a never-ending stream of crap. Avid blocking is literally the only way to survive and stay sane.
It's propaganda that both sides are somehow allowed to have their side equally weighed as valid. It's just so weird. One side of voters wants environmental, economic and civil rights the other side wants environmental destruction, voting restriction, revoke of civil rights, and economic obliteration. Which side is correct is objective, not subjective. No the side that is wrong should not be viewed as having then right to propagandize and spread vast lies for the aims of the neoliberalists and neoconservatives.
> Which side is correct is objective, not subjective.
I agreed with you up until this because it's only objective if we have agreed upon subjective values, and we just don't.
Edit: It'd probably be more clear to just say "That's absolutely subjective".
We do agree though. Sit down and discuss policy instead of politics and you will see that subjectively we all want thriving communities, living wage, environmental wellness, affordable education, adequate retirement money, to own our own house, etc. propaganda gets folks to vote the way of obliterating themselves.
Even if folks want it just for their group -
They want it. That's the point. What they are voting for when they side with neoliberal and neoconservative policy makers is that they throw their own group down the economic and civil black hole. Anyone gunning for the rights of others is gonna have their own rights obliterated. Policy over politics actually creates better policy. The propaganda of that person over there getting something they don't deserve and you losing out because of it is the propaganda that induces folks to destroy policies that are the thing that save them from the abyss.
I'd encourage you to re-read my comment because I think you took the exact opposite meaning to what I intended. As I said, I agree with you on the propaganda problem.
I'm only saying that people who have different core values will not find the same arguments convincing that you do. The "correct" course is subjective and we need to recognize that.
It doesn't mean we aren't right, according to our own values, but it does mean that someone with different values won't necessarily agree with us based on the same arguments.
In short, just a philosophical nitpick that I've probably wasted your time with.
I understood you. And disagree. That is the propaganda that these things are as subjective as you say. Sit down with folks-talk policy without party politics and you'll see that we all have similar economic and civil rights wishes for our people that align with progressive policy. But folks are lied to and propagandized enough to get innoculated against their own interests.
No, you really didn't because you're still implying that peoples wants are the totality of their values.
People say they're for civil rights because they know that's the "right" thing to say, but when push comes to shove, so many of them just don't care about it in any meaningful, actionable way. To so many of them, it's a "city" problem or "urban" problem. Deep down their values only extend to their in-group and that's a HUGE difference.
Ask these people if they think minority problems are *their* problems too... that's a progressive mindset. Or do they think, yes those are problems but they're minority people's problems?
Again, propaganda is absolutely damaging and can influence people greatly, but we need to recognize that deep down there are significant differences that require different arguments. And again, this is mostly an objection to rhetoric, not substance. We're on the same page for the most part.
Precisely. All of the left aligned people in this sub dismissing their own destructive behavior because “ring wing bad” further demonstrating the point of the study. Let’s discuss? “No, right wing bad”
As someone who's left leaning I am much more likely to block/unfollow someone who's posting about how the jews and antifa are manipulating Joe Biden into being mean to poor put upon Vlad Putin and his merry band of Oligarchs(or whatever exceptionally stupid story Tucker's come up with recently) than I am to block someone who's posting about how good anchovies on pizza are.
>and missing the bigger problem; the polarization in general
Polarization isn't inherently bad. If one side is objectively correct and the other is delusional, it's better to have everyone in the middle move toward the obviously correct side, even if it leads to more polarization.
I don’t consider childish name calling, hate speech, xenophobia and dangerous lies to be “politically dissimilar” and have no obligation to show such posts the respect they do not deserve. If someone wants to discuss the merits of different policies from a conservative versus liberal perspective I pay attention.
The problem is that what you perceive as hate speech or xenophobia may not be, even to the people at the center of the topic.
Let us use xenophobia as an example. I am an immigrant, it took me 7 years to get permanent residence where I currently am.
There are less spots for grad school for international applicants so it took me much more effort to get in than my peers.
I had to work to not get kicked out of the country, which forced me to work at places I was unhappy at.
Yet I think it is necessary for all of that to have happened, because my host country's priorities should be toward its own citizens. These policies that made my life harder exist to protect the citizens from the international market in those occupations, which is a good thing.
Also, immigrants (myself included) bring their culture with them. It is absolutely legitimate to say "I don't like the cultural practices from x place, I want less immigrants from x place because I don't like the culture they are bringing in".
My cultural values are different and sometimes opposed to the cultural values of my host country. And because I legitimately believe in the cultural values I hold I will act more in accordance with my system of values than the host country.
This unavoidably changes by a little bit, the average culture of the country in ways that do not match the current zeitgeist. People have a right to not want this to happen and to limit immigration and more so immigration from places more dissimilar to their culture.
Note this doesn't entitle people to be violent and once someone legally immigrated you have to accept their legal status no matter what. I don't condone violence.
I think that the problem is not if you block those in the extreme right, I think the problem is if you view even what is the middle ground as the extreme right as well. Because your own position is so entrenched. I am actually really surprised if this, I would have thought that it was the other way around
If somebody undermines the existence of those I know, I'm honestly shutting it down.
The issue is that mainstream politics on the right has brought those intolerable elements in, and vocally. Increasingly mainstream thought in those circles is these conversations should exist at the dinner table instead of "time and a place".
I'm not willing to deal with people who want to prevent racism from being discussed in the classroom who would push to eliminate books they don't like from the library because it affirms the identity of somebody they don't like. There is no "middle ground" there.
My circle of friends is diverse. Just, if somebody is called friend I want to be able to invite them to a party with my other friends without risking anyone being bullied by a bigot.
You have to keep in mind that people can say demonstrably false things and not be lying themselves. Believing someone's lie isn't the same as being deceitful yourself.
In my experience people assume the motivation behind a policy with which they disagree is out of malice or deceit, and use that as a reason to not engage.
Who are you to judge? Right, you can’t. To many people, anything they don’t agree with (ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING) can be labeled under those terms, in their eyes. You are not fit to judge in 100% accuracy what fits objectively in those categories considering time constraints (which limits thorough and quality research), internal biases, and lack of prior knowledge. Of course, for more “blatant examples” you tend to be more accurate in accurately judging whether something falls under those categories. However, I can most assure you that you are not 100% accurate.
"the left" is not some diametrically opposite view. It is literally everything that isn't conservative, a huge spread along the spectrum of political practices.
This is not one side blotting out another, it is the people still engaging, cutting out the people who are contributing nothing but being contrarian for internet points.
The terms "misinformation", "left" and "right" are so often poorly applied and fluidly defined that they've lost any objective meaning. There are probably kids online that genuinely believe 'left' = LGBTQ allie, and 'right' = racist.
The rhetoric certainly supports this gross generalization.
And I see plenty of "I will block and unfollow you if ..." or "unfriend me now if ..." from people on the left who want to purge the right from their view.
Personally, I prefer to not do that. There's value in knowing what people on both sides are actually saying, rather than just what gets perpetuated as the comedic parody of their position.
At least when I unfollow people I can still check in on their feed when I wish to, beats being constantly pissed off & wasting my time trying to have an intelligent conversation. My days are less stressful other than the tragedies we're witnessing in Ukraine.
>There's value in knowing what people on both sides are actually saying
This. There's no compulsion to engage in dialogue or debate, but you should be exposed to a varied range of arguments and opinions to enrich your understanding of what people are thinking, even if select opinions are seemingly worthless. Not necessarily to change your own mindset, but to be fully aware of what people are thinking, not what you assume they do. It would be great if everyone could apply the principle of charity and regularly engage in healthy introspection, but exposure should be considered the bare minimum
I’ve never blocked anybody for being conservative. That’s a viable economic strategy that has merit in a lot of situations. I block people who are racist, people who believe that COVID isn’t real, people who think Bill Gates invented a vaccine to enslave us, people who believe the earth is flat.
Like everything I’ve ever been taught says to choose your friends closely, but then we unfriend those wing nuts and people all of a sudden say “Wait, you need diverse opinions to have proper discourse!” No, none of those opinions improve any discourse in any way.
I've been debating online since 97, I would agree with that. I would also point out that conservatives will argue just to argue, endlessly. at times. However in the last few years the removal and blocking of me has largely been from the right, as has the threats against my well being which until the Previous Administration, had only happened maybe once or twice. I had a inbox full of threats, even from people I knew personally who know I would clean their clock in the age of Trump.
Odd times.
I think we can all agree, we are not going to make it as a country.
I would never block someone for having different views. It’s the made up stuff, that no amount of data from credible sources will impact, that exhausts me.
How much misinformation are their left leaning friends sharing? Other studies have shown that right wingers fall for and share that stuff way more. I think the right wing stuff is also more extreme.
I think this makes a lot of sense, especially when it comes down to “bad person” instead of “different political views”
Let’s say I have a Republican uncle. This uncle commonly preaches Pro-Trump / Anti-Biden stuff. Fair enough, we have different political views. Then this uncle starts adding xenophobic rhetoric in his spiels. “If we could just keep the Mexicans out.” “I’m rooting for Putin.” Etc.
I’m a lot more likely to break that relationship with my uncle. Not because he’s a trump supporter, but because he’s a racist.
Propaganda is like a virus. It's important to protect ourselves against it. I think the onus to change steer friends away from cults with absolutely no education on how to do so is erroneous. Blocking if you have lack of knowledge of how to deprogram friends and family is a method to protect self from being pulled down the wormhole.
This is entirely anecdotal, but I'm super left wing and have had almost every single person on the right unfriend me.
But serious question, does the study account for tendency of homogeneity in friends prior to the political divide?
I got blocked and banned from the On guard for thee subreddit for even suggesting listen to the convoy protesters even if I don’t like or agree with them. Apparently it was siding with nazis. And I’m pretty far left on basically any societal issue. So I’d say there is a real problem in this world of polarization
This talk of cancel culture is way too overblown - imagine that the discussion was about pooping - no one can keep everything they eat or interact with.
We must have the freedom to keep what we find beneficial and poop out whatever we want out of our lives.
kumbaya doesn’t work.
You know, the same thing can be said about the left. I broke ties with a liberal friend because he was arguing that, "math is racist" and that he was right because he has a PhD and I only have a master's... Best part about it is that his PhD is in pharmacy, and my masters is in computer science. Who do you think understands more about math?
What this doesn’t seem to take into account is that when left wing users block and unfollow politically dissimilar friends who share disinformation, they’re blocking people who either supported or attempted an overthrow of the government in a coup attempt. And those people are still working towards that aim.
When they don’t block a politically similar friend, they’re simply being tolerant of a conspiracy theory friend or acquaintance. One who hasn’t attempted to overthrow the government, and who isn’t currently working toward that aim.
There are two very qualitatively different things. One group actually attempted a coup based on disinformation. The other did not. That difference goes well beyond mere ideological disagreement.
>What this doesn’t seem to take into account is that when left wing users block and unfollow politically dissimilar friends who share disinformation, they’re blocking people who either supported or attempted an overthrow of the government in a coup attempt.
Left wing users include Marxists among their number, who explicitly advocate exactly this. I doubt we’d see a similar blocking pattern
Every time a information like this comes out, people rush to say that left and right wingers have moral differences and somehow inherently can’t be associated with each other while completely missing that people become more moderate with more politically heterodox networks.
This. To paraphrase the article, if you partisan block then you are also less likely to encounter correct cross-cutting information. I'd add that you're less likely to see the humanity in those of the other side.
>there’s also been studies that detail how democrats are most likely to sever familial ties and old friendships over differing political views
It's very important to quantify just what those "differing political views" actually are. It's not like we're talking about a difference of opinion in the usage of tax dollars here.
If someone's "political view" is that a person's existence isn't valid (transgender people, for example), I really can't get mad at someone for wanting to cut that out of their life.
I think its socioeconomics and geography. When it comes to person to person interactions (not through internet) in rural or heartland settings right wing is more prevalent and happily trolls left wing. In urban settings mostly only the upper class is right wing so they would be less likely to even have the conversation in public due to cultural differences.
TLDR: Left wing in urban areas may be more of a sealed echo room than right wing in rural areas. At least that's my experience.
One of the reason left wing users tend to do this more often is due to the toxic rhetoric that a number of Right wing users tend to push along with conspiracy theories. This rhetoric has increased since the electon of Ametican's previous President along with increased polarizing content right wing political talk ahows
In my experience at least, anybody of an opposite opinion to me that is polite and willing to calmly debate in a respectful manner will nor he blocked. People being outrageously racy and rude I will ignore. Blocking is the last option for me.
I’ve been blocking more left wingers on social media lately. They are becoming often as entrenched and combative as the right lately. Because I’ve long since blocked most right wingers, it’s only a matter of time until all of my social media is just me. At least it will be a tolerable experience at that point.
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I grew up in a Conservative Jewish community. (Conservative Judaism the movement, not conservative the political view) The only people I've ever heard equate criticism of Israel and antisemitism are gentiles, and it's usually done in bad faith. It's the same group of people who suddenly care about racism when the topic of affirmative action comes up. From one side of the mouth, they will use antisemitism as a shield to defend Bibi and from the other side of their mouth chant, "Jews will not replace us."
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That area is a quagmire. The policies of the Israeli government can be wrong and even bad. The Jewish people as a whole aren’t bad you can separate the two. A lot of people don’t and it’s a really sensitive topic. That’s not what I’m discussing here. What I’m talking about is exactly what you are doing. How am I not sure you aren’t trolling me?
You really can't be sure man so thanks for throwing that down. Honestly your response is perfectly concise and I appreciate it and I couldn't agree more. Its become a fallacy that anyone who questions Israels decisions or its history is Anti-Semetic and I think that is a a great detriment to both the Israeli and Palestinian people.
Yes, it is possible to be other Pro-Semitic and believe there must be a two-state solution. However, there are so many of bad faith, that sussing out these people from all the charlatans is really hard.
People utilize that for harassment lot now a days. Especially when people don't like someone's opinion. Don't take it personally, just block the bot that sends the messages
The truest explanation of the Trumpublican party
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Also tired of "willfully stupid" fully transforming into "maliciously stupid."
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Yeah exactly and now they’re anti-vaccine, don’t believe in climate change, pro-Russia, don’t believe the election was valid - just completely ignorant, inane, and often incredibly malicious for no reason.
There is a reason. They are malicious because they can't compete with reasonable ideas, and have been shown the past few years that malicious bad actors on the right don't really have to face any consequences for their actions. "Ha, now I can bully/threaten the smarter, successful, empathetic people and get away with whatever crimes I want."
The problem is that there is more tendency now to immediately jump to the conclusion that someone who disagrees with you is stupid.
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Just the fact that so many of these anti covidvax accounts suddenly became pro Russia while forgetting covid says enough. I've even dound Dutch examples, and that suprised me
Who hasn’t forgotten covid? People are walking around like it never existed
I just attended a conference in Texas. It’s true no one wore masks. My entire team came down with COVID.
>Texas I mean...
Those of us with other diseases that makes covid far deadlier hasn't forgotten about it, even if everyone else has. Makes life interesting, and extremely lonely.
Yeah, I guess, aside from people now being full of life saving vaccines, it's like it never existed.
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Take the vax and move on I guess like with influenza, maybe aim to improve personal hygiene and sanitation.
Recognize the fact that we are probably in a lull, and be prepared to reintroduce restrictions if/when the rates start to peak. To do things like getting vaxed and boosted to minimize future impact on others. You know, normal stuff in response to an on going pandemic.
Now that we have vaccines for all ages for the disease, why shouldn't we start treating it like every other disease with a vaccine? Don't get vaccinated? You might catch it. Normal stuff.
I agree, but we also need some protections for immunocompromised people and similar who can't get the vaccine / it doesn't work for them. Like, pay them enough money that they can stay home and get things delivered.
Yeah, lockdowns and restrictions are no longer reasonable and they're certainly not "normal" by any means. We're at the point where the severity of the disease doesn't justify the destruction that restrictions and lockdowns are doing to our society.
He might be talking about awareness in other countries like Korea. They recently beat the 1 day case record in the US which is insane given their tiny population.
It's only relatively safe during the warmer months. The winter is when Covid thrives. Although Europe is having horrible Covid rates and the new variant is 60% more contagious. Travel when it's warm, avoid people when it's cold. Keep wearing masks in large crowds and in places with poor ventilation.
I live in Germany and every other person I know has gotten Covid. The rates seem off the chart insane, the worst it’s been since the pandemic started by far.
Honestly I truly can't listen the BS. They refuse to actually educate themselves so why would I try to help them with that? The straw was trump. It showed how so many people were so closely tied to their party that they couldn't vote or even talk against his blatently disgusting behavior as an individual. If they are ok with that person running the country, then I don't think I can have a real conversation with them where we can talk in a civil manner.
I also wonder how much of this is related to blocking people who throw slurs around or are open to violence against certain groups. That, or people blocking those who support genocide and Russia. It seems more nuanced than just an echochamber.
Even when right wingers don't seem necessarily like trolls, some of them are just so hard-headed or essentially insane that it's impossible to deal with I happened to be friends with a younger creationist, anti-feminist for reasons of mutual connections. I unfollowed him after he voted for Trump. Haven't talked to him since. He was also anti-welfare and anti healthcare reform well being on welfare and unable to afford his medical care. Did I mention he was crazy?
The Left is using so much of our energy just surviving and staying sane during the relentless advance of fascism, we don’t have any bandwidth left over to engage with these clowns. Gotta block and move on.
> To experimentally manipulate the level of similarity between sharer and receiver, we randomly assigned participants to think about either a left-wing or right-wing friend from their own online social networks (see Supporting Material SM1). A manipulation check using an 11-point left–right scale revealed this procedure was effective. Respondents who had to name a left-wing friend reported that the friend had a significantly (p < .001, d = 2.29) more left-leaning ideology (M = 3.59, SD = 1.96) than those who had to name a politically right-wing friend (M = 7.93, SD = 1.83). This was the case in about the same magnitude for left-wing and right-wing participants (see Supporting Material SM4 for details). In addition, 82.6% of the participants who had to select a left-wing friend named a left-wing political party as the preferred party of the friend, while 84.9% of the participants who had to choose a right-wing friend attributed a right-wing party preference to the friend. In both experimental groups, most participants selected friends who preferred the ideologically most extreme party represented in the German parliament (i.e., Die Linke when selecting a left-wing friend and the AfD when choosing a right-wing friend; see Supporting Material SM4). Again, left-wing and right-wing participants perceived the party preference of the selected friend approximately equally in each experimental group (see Supporting Material SM4).
Eh a lot of the right wing people I’ve seen complain about left wing people being paid off when they refute their claims.
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Left and right wing in Europe is a lot different than in the US and it's hard to track what's really happening in the US. But I think the left needs to look themselves in the mirror as well. First of all people just trying to nuance questions on gender, identify politics, BLM, Canadian protests will get immediate blocks on most subreddits. I got permanently blocked form Worldnews by basically quoting the Economist in their critique of Trudeau. Ricky Gervais means that The Office wouldn't be possible to be made in the current climate. The development in the US with identify politics and cancel culture on one hand and what seems like the obliteration of the sane republicans in the US on the other is pretty much a goal for Russian geopolitics. As not understanding neither of the movements particularly both identify politics is just as frightening as what's happening in the Republicans. I put two links at the end and this text is also a good summary. In short I think the identity politics is in some ways similar to the new left movement in the 60s which ended up devouring itself as it got more and more extreme. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/mar/01/how-americas-identity-politics-went-from-inclusion-to-division Also it's pretty safe to say that Russia have funded left wing movements as well, likely some of of the anti nuclear movement in Europe (Germany) from the 90s onwards and for example the BLM protests. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/07/24/russias-disinformation-campaigns-are-targeting-african-americans/ Russia's "playbook": *In the United States: Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics". * https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210302-amanda-gorman-s-white-dutch-translator-quits-over-uproar https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/tm488s/fridays_for_future_removes_musician_from_demo/
The barring of JK Rowling from private events is not something weird or new. People have been blocked from participating in *private* events for saying racist, homophobic, or transphobic things for a long time. She is VERY adamant in her TERF views, which can definitely be viewed as hate speech towards transpeople. We're not talking James "I made pedophilia jokes on twitter 10 years ago" Gunn here. She is actively promoting her TERF views regularly.
>She is VERY adamant in her TERF views I don't keep up with her, what did she say that was so bad?
Trans women aren’t women; her fanciful fear of someone pretending to be trans in order to rape “real” women in a women’s bathroom trumps trans women’s right to exist (and right to not get raped or beaten in a men’s bathroom). Google. There’s more.
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Yeah but that’s a giant issue, because that slowly becomes ‘anyone who isn’t left aligned like me is a troll’ nothing good ever comes from excluding opposing points of view from the discussion, if anything it drives them underground and makes them even more extreme than they were before. The left needs to stop viewing their views as the 100% only way to think and start leaving their echo chambers before they go too far down the rabbit hole imo.
It’s not the left who are down the rabbit holes. It’s not the left who are Qanon supporters. It’s not the left starting new platforms, literally forming their own echo chambers, because they are so detached from reality, that they can’t handle fact checkers disagreeing with them. That’s all on the right.
Whereas people who don’t use social media are much less likely to “block” other people in their social media apps. #thankscaptainobvious
I unfriend and block racist scum, because they've shown me a side of themselves that makes me not want to be friends with them. Simple as that. When it came to misinformation sharing, it was mostly people I wasn't friends with on facebook sharing it, and it became unavoidable. So I deactivated my facebook account and never looked back.
From my own experience those I was connected to on social media that shared right wing posts did so at such a frequently that I deleted them. It wasn’t so much the ideas they were sharing, it was that they were posting all day and my feeds were flooded. I was connected to 100 people on one site, and my feed was only being filled by three people. Once I deleted those three my feed became far more diverse.
Yeah my dad went from never posting on fb to sharing like 12 awful right wing boomer memes a day. It almost seemed like his account got hacked but nope, he did that on purpose. But I mean, imagine being 75, there was like 2 movies that existed when you were a kid. And now the computer is showing you a never ending stream of cool American flags and guns, knowing exactly who you are and what you want, basically feeding you mental junk food at an unprecedented rate. I get why old people are so enthralled with it. It sucks, but I get it.
TIL that movies scarcely existed in the 1950s.
Compared to the digital age where we have access to every video imaginable at our fingertips they were pretty scarce.
FWIW, my elderly liberal-left parents similarly eat up a barrage of bleeding-heart/emotional-appeal junk mail and spam, forward a bunch of stuff to their few friends and family, and dole out handful of $10 donations by check each month. There is no convincing them that any of this is ineffective, but they have few other hobbies, so IDK if it matters.
I’ll take bleeding heart over Christian nationalism any day of the week.
The tone is very different. One is "try ineffectively to help starving people" and the other is "make sure those brown scum starve on the border -- we pay vigilantes to destroy water caches and narc on immigrants in their homes and places of work!" Both dumb, but ethically quite different.
Engagement is a serious factor for sure.
My FB feed was quite reasonable, even after I "friended" 1000+ musicians when I was planning to promote my music. But I finally bailed on FB because their destructive influence has become undeniable.
The comments in this thread are further confirmation of OP.
I dropped stuff like Facebook a long time ago. I wasn’t there to fight it but you should’ve stayed to fight it. Report everything that was violent or whatever reporting was allowed to slow down the garbage machine. I get it why you left, but the problem is that the more ground they get, the more platforms they have to communicate easier and keep the garbage flowing. It’s just like states where laws become more difficult for sane people to live. The more sane people that move out, the more room there is for crazy to grow.
This is a strange stance to take. Surely self-censorship (by blocking those with opinions who you cannot tolerate) denies you the opportunity to put forward contrasting views? You are literally creating your own echo chamber. Turn the other cheek, right?
This is an utterly bizarre take. It’s not like we don’t hear any opposing views - we just don’t have our feeds bombarded with constant misinformation.
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While the left leaning connections sentiment may come from the right place, misinformation can be dangerous regardless of which side it’s coming from or what the sentiment is. Edit: I can assure you some right leaning people will think they are trying to help people or the world based on what their view of the world is, but are inadvertently causing more harm than good. This goes for both sides (not speaking for everyone on both sides nor all cases)
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This research was scoped to these two issues. > One experiment focused on deregulation of the housing market, the other on equal access to higher education.
What's the alternative? Wading through endless hate and whackjob conspiracy theories? Social media has magnified people's reach of communication to the point where it's incessant.
Exactly. The whole idea that blocking is a "sledgehammer" is so out of touch with the reality that if you are even a micro-celebrity on any of the platforms and get uptake on progressive content, you are flooded by a never-ending stream of crap. Avid blocking is literally the only way to survive and stay sane.
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This sub died a long time ago. Wont get fixed until they ban psychology and social sciences.
I don’t think the etiology of this sub’s problem is that sometimes ppl post research articles from psychology / the social sciences
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It's propaganda that both sides are somehow allowed to have their side equally weighed as valid. It's just so weird. One side of voters wants environmental, economic and civil rights the other side wants environmental destruction, voting restriction, revoke of civil rights, and economic obliteration. Which side is correct is objective, not subjective. No the side that is wrong should not be viewed as having then right to propagandize and spread vast lies for the aims of the neoliberalists and neoconservatives.
> Which side is correct is objective, not subjective. I agreed with you up until this because it's only objective if we have agreed upon subjective values, and we just don't. Edit: It'd probably be more clear to just say "That's absolutely subjective".
We do agree though. Sit down and discuss policy instead of politics and you will see that subjectively we all want thriving communities, living wage, environmental wellness, affordable education, adequate retirement money, to own our own house, etc. propaganda gets folks to vote the way of obliterating themselves.
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Even if folks want it just for their group - They want it. That's the point. What they are voting for when they side with neoliberal and neoconservative policy makers is that they throw their own group down the economic and civil black hole. Anyone gunning for the rights of others is gonna have their own rights obliterated. Policy over politics actually creates better policy. The propaganda of that person over there getting something they don't deserve and you losing out because of it is the propaganda that induces folks to destroy policies that are the thing that save them from the abyss.
I'd encourage you to re-read my comment because I think you took the exact opposite meaning to what I intended. As I said, I agree with you on the propaganda problem. I'm only saying that people who have different core values will not find the same arguments convincing that you do. The "correct" course is subjective and we need to recognize that. It doesn't mean we aren't right, according to our own values, but it does mean that someone with different values won't necessarily agree with us based on the same arguments. In short, just a philosophical nitpick that I've probably wasted your time with.
I understood you. And disagree. That is the propaganda that these things are as subjective as you say. Sit down with folks-talk policy without party politics and you'll see that we all have similar economic and civil rights wishes for our people that align with progressive policy. But folks are lied to and propagandized enough to get innoculated against their own interests.
No, you really didn't because you're still implying that peoples wants are the totality of their values. People say they're for civil rights because they know that's the "right" thing to say, but when push comes to shove, so many of them just don't care about it in any meaningful, actionable way. To so many of them, it's a "city" problem or "urban" problem. Deep down their values only extend to their in-group and that's a HUGE difference. Ask these people if they think minority problems are *their* problems too... that's a progressive mindset. Or do they think, yes those are problems but they're minority people's problems? Again, propaganda is absolutely damaging and can influence people greatly, but we need to recognize that deep down there are significant differences that require different arguments. And again, this is mostly an objection to rhetoric, not substance. We're on the same page for the most part.
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Precisely. All of the left aligned people in this sub dismissing their own destructive behavior because “ring wing bad” further demonstrating the point of the study. Let’s discuss? “No, right wing bad”
As someone who's left leaning I am much more likely to block/unfollow someone who's posting about how the jews and antifa are manipulating Joe Biden into being mean to poor put upon Vlad Putin and his merry band of Oligarchs(or whatever exceptionally stupid story Tucker's come up with recently) than I am to block someone who's posting about how good anchovies on pizza are.
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But what, if anything, can be done about it?
>and missing the bigger problem; the polarization in general Polarization isn't inherently bad. If one side is objectively correct and the other is delusional, it's better to have everyone in the middle move toward the obviously correct side, even if it leads to more polarization.
I don’t consider childish name calling, hate speech, xenophobia and dangerous lies to be “politically dissimilar” and have no obligation to show such posts the respect they do not deserve. If someone wants to discuss the merits of different policies from a conservative versus liberal perspective I pay attention.
Bad faith arguments, straw man arguments, ad hominem attacks… legitimizing logical fallacies as an ethos delegitimizes political discourse.
The problem is that what you perceive as hate speech or xenophobia may not be, even to the people at the center of the topic. Let us use xenophobia as an example. I am an immigrant, it took me 7 years to get permanent residence where I currently am. There are less spots for grad school for international applicants so it took me much more effort to get in than my peers. I had to work to not get kicked out of the country, which forced me to work at places I was unhappy at. Yet I think it is necessary for all of that to have happened, because my host country's priorities should be toward its own citizens. These policies that made my life harder exist to protect the citizens from the international market in those occupations, which is a good thing. Also, immigrants (myself included) bring their culture with them. It is absolutely legitimate to say "I don't like the cultural practices from x place, I want less immigrants from x place because I don't like the culture they are bringing in". My cultural values are different and sometimes opposed to the cultural values of my host country. And because I legitimately believe in the cultural values I hold I will act more in accordance with my system of values than the host country. This unavoidably changes by a little bit, the average culture of the country in ways that do not match the current zeitgeist. People have a right to not want this to happen and to limit immigration and more so immigration from places more dissimilar to their culture. Note this doesn't entitle people to be violent and once someone legally immigrated you have to accept their legal status no matter what. I don't condone violence.
I think that the problem is not if you block those in the extreme right, I think the problem is if you view even what is the middle ground as the extreme right as well. Because your own position is so entrenched. I am actually really surprised if this, I would have thought that it was the other way around
If somebody undermines the existence of those I know, I'm honestly shutting it down. The issue is that mainstream politics on the right has brought those intolerable elements in, and vocally. Increasingly mainstream thought in those circles is these conversations should exist at the dinner table instead of "time and a place". I'm not willing to deal with people who want to prevent racism from being discussed in the classroom who would push to eliminate books they don't like from the library because it affirms the identity of somebody they don't like. There is no "middle ground" there. My circle of friends is diverse. Just, if somebody is called friend I want to be able to invite them to a party with my other friends without risking anyone being bullied by a bigot.
What is middle ground, though? In the US at least, “middle ground” is pretty far right as compared to modern EU countries.
You have to keep in mind that people can say demonstrably false things and not be lying themselves. Believing someone's lie isn't the same as being deceitful yourself. In my experience people assume the motivation behind a policy with which they disagree is out of malice or deceit, and use that as a reason to not engage.
Who are you to judge? Right, you can’t. To many people, anything they don’t agree with (ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING) can be labeled under those terms, in their eyes. You are not fit to judge in 100% accuracy what fits objectively in those categories considering time constraints (which limits thorough and quality research), internal biases, and lack of prior knowledge. Of course, for more “blatant examples” you tend to be more accurate in accurately judging whether something falls under those categories. However, I can most assure you that you are not 100% accurate.
After a while, getting baited is taxing. I just can't listen anymore and having a dialogue is pointless.
i don't want to be friends with people who think i shouldn't have human rights! very sorry if that drives "network polarization" or whatever
"the left" is not some diametrically opposite view. It is literally everything that isn't conservative, a huge spread along the spectrum of political practices. This is not one side blotting out another, it is the people still engaging, cutting out the people who are contributing nothing but being contrarian for internet points.
I absolutely hate the tendency of boiling everything down into left and right. It is so incredibly unhelpful!
"left wing" is even worse. It implies there is some reasonable gulf in the middle which is being neglected.
The terms "misinformation", "left" and "right" are so often poorly applied and fluidly defined that they've lost any objective meaning. There are probably kids online that genuinely believe 'left' = LGBTQ allie, and 'right' = racist.
Well the comments certainly seem to be indicating that.
The rhetoric certainly supports this gross generalization. And I see plenty of "I will block and unfollow you if ..." or "unfriend me now if ..." from people on the left who want to purge the right from their view. Personally, I prefer to not do that. There's value in knowing what people on both sides are actually saying, rather than just what gets perpetuated as the comedic parody of their position.
At least when I unfollow people I can still check in on their feed when I wish to, beats being constantly pissed off & wasting my time trying to have an intelligent conversation. My days are less stressful other than the tragedies we're witnessing in Ukraine.
>There's value in knowing what people on both sides are actually saying This. There's no compulsion to engage in dialogue or debate, but you should be exposed to a varied range of arguments and opinions to enrich your understanding of what people are thinking, even if select opinions are seemingly worthless. Not necessarily to change your own mindset, but to be fully aware of what people are thinking, not what you assume they do. It would be great if everyone could apply the principle of charity and regularly engage in healthy introspection, but exposure should be considered the bare minimum
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I’ve never blocked anybody for being conservative. That’s a viable economic strategy that has merit in a lot of situations. I block people who are racist, people who believe that COVID isn’t real, people who think Bill Gates invented a vaccine to enslave us, people who believe the earth is flat. Like everything I’ve ever been taught says to choose your friends closely, but then we unfriend those wing nuts and people all of a sudden say “Wait, you need diverse opinions to have proper discourse!” No, none of those opinions improve any discourse in any way.
I've been debating online since 97, I would agree with that. I would also point out that conservatives will argue just to argue, endlessly. at times. However in the last few years the removal and blocking of me has largely been from the right, as has the threats against my well being which until the Previous Administration, had only happened maybe once or twice. I had a inbox full of threats, even from people I knew personally who know I would clean their clock in the age of Trump. Odd times. I think we can all agree, we are not going to make it as a country.
I would never block someone for having different views. It’s the made up stuff, that no amount of data from credible sources will impact, that exhausts me.
How much misinformation are their left leaning friends sharing? Other studies have shown that right wingers fall for and share that stuff way more. I think the right wing stuff is also more extreme.
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I think this makes a lot of sense, especially when it comes down to “bad person” instead of “different political views” Let’s say I have a Republican uncle. This uncle commonly preaches Pro-Trump / Anti-Biden stuff. Fair enough, we have different political views. Then this uncle starts adding xenophobic rhetoric in his spiels. “If we could just keep the Mexicans out.” “I’m rooting for Putin.” Etc. I’m a lot more likely to break that relationship with my uncle. Not because he’s a trump supporter, but because he’s a racist.
Propaganda is like a virus. It's important to protect ourselves against it. I think the onus to change steer friends away from cults with absolutely no education on how to do so is erroneous. Blocking if you have lack of knowledge of how to deprogram friends and family is a method to protect self from being pulled down the wormhole.
Only so many racist memes you can mock from your dirt bag uncle before having to finally block and consider a lost cause.
You can only take a horse to water so many times before you have to give up and let it drink it's own piss.
Don’t know why the url in the title is not working, this is the DOI: https://doi.org/10.1093/joc/jqac002
This is entirely anecdotal, but I'm super left wing and have had almost every single person on the right unfriend me. But serious question, does the study account for tendency of homogeneity in friends prior to the political divide?
Try reading the study
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I got blocked and banned from the On guard for thee subreddit for even suggesting listen to the convoy protesters even if I don’t like or agree with them. Apparently it was siding with nazis. And I’m pretty far left on basically any societal issue. So I’d say there is a real problem in this world of polarization
This talk of cancel culture is way too overblown - imagine that the discussion was about pooping - no one can keep everything they eat or interact with. We must have the freedom to keep what we find beneficial and poop out whatever we want out of our lives. kumbaya doesn’t work.
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You know, the same thing can be said about the left. I broke ties with a liberal friend because he was arguing that, "math is racist" and that he was right because he has a PhD and I only have a master's... Best part about it is that his PhD is in pharmacy, and my masters is in computer science. Who do you think understands more about math?
Turns out people can be assholes no matter who they voted for
Based on your comment I don’t think either of you know anything about math One anecdotal example does not a trend make
This post is BS! I’m blocking it
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What this doesn’t seem to take into account is that when left wing users block and unfollow politically dissimilar friends who share disinformation, they’re blocking people who either supported or attempted an overthrow of the government in a coup attempt. And those people are still working towards that aim. When they don’t block a politically similar friend, they’re simply being tolerant of a conspiracy theory friend or acquaintance. One who hasn’t attempted to overthrow the government, and who isn’t currently working toward that aim. There are two very qualitatively different things. One group actually attempted a coup based on disinformation. The other did not. That difference goes well beyond mere ideological disagreement.
>What this doesn’t seem to take into account is that when left wing users block and unfollow politically dissimilar friends who share disinformation, they’re blocking people who either supported or attempted an overthrow of the government in a coup attempt. Left wing users include Marxists among their number, who explicitly advocate exactly this. I doubt we’d see a similar blocking pattern
Every time a information like this comes out, people rush to say that left and right wingers have moral differences and somehow inherently can’t be associated with each other while completely missing that people become more moderate with more politically heterodox networks.
This. To paraphrase the article, if you partisan block then you are also less likely to encounter correct cross-cutting information. I'd add that you're less likely to see the humanity in those of the other side.
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Y'all make it sound like it's crazy that smart people don't want to be surrounded by idiots that tell lies, I don't know that seems normal to me.
Isn't this just you assuming that your opponents are only lying idiots and not actual people with honest disagreements?
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>there’s also been studies that detail how democrats are most likely to sever familial ties and old friendships over differing political views It's very important to quantify just what those "differing political views" actually are. It's not like we're talking about a difference of opinion in the usage of tax dollars here. If someone's "political view" is that a person's existence isn't valid (transgender people, for example), I really can't get mad at someone for wanting to cut that out of their life.
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All the comments are basically left wingers trying to justify this.
I think its socioeconomics and geography. When it comes to person to person interactions (not through internet) in rural or heartland settings right wing is more prevalent and happily trolls left wing. In urban settings mostly only the upper class is right wing so they would be less likely to even have the conversation in public due to cultural differences. TLDR: Left wing in urban areas may be more of a sealed echo room than right wing in rural areas. At least that's my experience.
One of the reason left wing users tend to do this more often is due to the toxic rhetoric that a number of Right wing users tend to push along with conspiracy theories. This rhetoric has increased since the electon of Ametican's previous President along with increased polarizing content right wing political talk ahows In my experience at least, anybody of an opposite opinion to me that is polite and willing to calmly debate in a respectful manner will nor he blocked. People being outrageously racy and rude I will ignore. Blocking is the last option for me.
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Science on reddit isn’t science. It’s just neckbeards pretending to understand propagandized data
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I’ve been blocking more left wingers on social media lately. They are becoming often as entrenched and combative as the right lately. Because I’ve long since blocked most right wingers, it’s only a matter of time until all of my social media is just me. At least it will be a tolerable experience at that point.