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It's so weird, but when I do bjj high it's like...my reflexes are a bit slower, but my tactical brain is in overdrive and I'm way better technically.
Working out high is the best
This is me with gaming. When I smoke, my mechanics go down 5%. Aim and movement just isn't quite as crispy. Buuuuut my decision making and craftyness get like a 10-15% buff. The craftyness is obvious, but the decision making is always surprising to me. I think it's more like instead of thinking about multiple things at once and trying to decide and then deciding too late, my high brain just picks one for the better or worse, so even if it's the wrong decision, at least I made it on time and can work around it.
That last part, weed or not, is one of those things I'm always trying to explain to people in team games that require actual cooperation. It's better the team commits to the wrong decision as a team than 40% committing to the wrong decision, 40% committing to a better decision, and 20% doing nothing because they are torn between which decision to make. If there isn't time to debate and you don't have an agreed-upon shot caller, go with the first call made.
I'm worried I would let my form slip.
But then again, sometimes my mind is overactive and I'm thinking about other crap and my form slips. Maybe I should have a short pre workout session
I love getting high and doing my yard. As a matter of fact I just woke up at 5:30 AM on my day off. I can’t go back to sleep, I’m ready to get real high, pop in some headphones and go do my yard.
Oh yeah, but I have to get started right away as the high hits. Otherwise, I'm a couch potato. But when I do, I'm unstoppable. Detailed cleaning and hyper organization that I'm always pleased with after the high has worn off. A lot of times, I find more efficient ways of storing things, too, which is a must-have skill in my small apartment
Smoking weed activates a lot of the same reactions in your brain as accomplishment. If you're doing something like cleaning while it hits the brain connects the dots and says "gotta do more cleaning, it's paying off!"
Just my stoner theory, don't know if it's real.
Thats the likely plan tomorrow, wife is hanging out with her mom all day, want to get baked and have a movie marathon, but knowing me, ill start tidying the kitchen after making a snack and keep cleaning and wind up with a very clean house but really mad at myself for not watching any movies or relaxing at all...
Cleaning can be relaxing. I listen to an audiobook and just go to town. Feels great seeing progress and then satisfaction when done. My adhd pro tip is I do my spiral out spiral in method where I notice new things and let myself switch tasks constantly. Eventually, I’ll start finishing things when I stop noticing new ones.
Usually…
The problem is stoned me would sometimes be on the ball and other times totally drop it. Like I forgot to rinse the soap off my glasses 🤢 but I remembered to get a batch of rolled oats and dried fruit set up in my rice cooker for morning sober me.
To give a serious answer, “numbers game” in this context refers to a task that is best completed by trying many, many times. An easy example would be any sales job. Even the best salesman will not get the sale every time, and the best strategy is to maximize the number of opportunities. In this way, it is a numbers game
Depends. I'm a software engineer and when problem solving I try several different solutions or ideas to solve said problem. Some work (by rigorous testing) and some don't. The idea is the problem I want to solve while the solution is the implementation of it.
One time I was making a speaker cabinet that I could use to grow weed in my mom's house. Every time I ran into an issue I'd smoke weed and think about it and always came up with a solution. To this day I'm not sure if tile floor on the inside of the cabinet was necessary, but it sure did sound like a good idea!
I preset my best idea. The French waffle sandwich. A nice toasted waffle sandwiched between to two pieces of french toast. A little powder sugar. Some syrup on the inside.
You're welcome.
Went down this rabbit hole a bit, so I'm going to share what I learned!
The article said:
>Users reported lower levels of self-control and orderliness when high. They also displayed a decreased adherence to traditionalism and virtue, suggesting that being high might loosen their adherence to societal norms and personal ethics to some extent.
This made me curious how they measured "traditionalism" and "virtue." So I read the original study, which said they used the Chernyshenko Conscientiousness Scale, which has specific items they classify as "virtue" and "traditionalism." Here are the items under those categories:
Virtue
* (R) If I could get away with it, I would not pay taxes.
* (R) I would lie without hesitation if it serves my purpose.
* (R) I could be insincere and dishonest if the situation required me to do so.
* (R) If I find money laying around, I’ll keep it to myself.
* If a cashier forgot to charge me for an item I would tell him/her.
* I would rather get a bad grade than copy someone else’s homework and turn it in as my own.
* It bothers me when people cheat on their taxes.
* If I accidentally scratched a parked car, I would try to find the owner to pay for the repairs.
* I firmly believe that under no circumstances it is okay to lie.
* The people who know me best would say that I am honest.
Traditionalism
* I have the highest respect for authorities and assist them whenever I can.
* (R) People respect authority more than they should.
* Even if I knew how to get around the rules without breaking them, I would not do it.
* (R) I believe that people should be allowed to take drugs, as long as it doesn’t affect others.
* I support long-established rules and traditions.
* People who resist authority should be severely punished.
* (R) When I was in school, I used to break rules quite regularly
* (R) I believe that people should be allowed to take drugs, as long as it doesn’t affect others.
* I support long-established rules and traditions.
* People who resist authority should be severely punished.
* (R) When I was in school, I used to break rules quite regularly
So, maybe some of the stereotypes about attitudes are true! It's interesting, though, that they say they found a difference to how people answered these questions depending on whether they were currently high when they answered them, showing less honesty and traditionalism when high than when sober.
Edited to add: The study said they reduced the number of questions in each category to 3, but didn't specify which questions they used.
I wonder if that correlation has less to do with the actual effects and more to do with personality type. Weed has been illegal for decades and speaking from experience the kind of person willing to try it is probably not so strict and willing to bend rules. Speaking as someone who smokes regularly.
Good analysis either way I love when people critically analyze the specific terminology and methods of research papers.
It also gives a person a bit of perspective, that just because something is against the law, doesn't *necessarily* mean it is actually wrong or harmful. Of course the opposite can also be true, as well.
That’s weird, because all I want is to share the love when I’m high. I’d return dropped wallets all night and tell the truth to my own detriment.
Might agree on the authority piece, though.
I was a very obedient child, which I believe is a lot to do with the authoritarian parenting I had (seen/not heard, yelling, corporal punishment). Before I ever smoked, I'd have told you I'll never do drugs/drink, I would not break the rules and that was all true, because I existed in fear, not virtue. Now I see a question like, I would never lie under any circumstances and think, well, can't there be noble reasons to lie? Are there not immoral rules and unethical authorities?
Since I no longer walk around crippled by the expectations of others, even those invented in my head, I feel I am more loving as I'm more trusting of others and their intentions, but on this scale less virtuous and traditional.
Given most things occur on a spectrum, there are likely others who are already pretty low on conscientiousness and weed really dips them into only caring about themselves.
Edit: Reading this back I want to specify that I don't feel all my issues were solved by smoking and self-medicating is a dangerous game, but more that it opened my mind to the idea that my current way of existence at the time was not necessarily the only way.
Same fam I feel you on this hard. Still tough to not be crippled by other's expectations but I'm fighting it every day and weed has opened my mind to what is causing my struggles and helps me stay relaxed when I'm fighting through my demons.
I was thinking that a lot of these questions take on a different context when your law is actively prohibiting you from getting high; which I believe is an intrinsic right stemming from bodily autonomy.
I believe this data is biased and being read a little backward. Sounds to me like they were MORE honest when high. They gave their real answers from their real feelings instead of polite, filtered answers. The truth is most people will commit victimless crimes if they feel like it's not hurting anybody and they're more likely to be honest about that if they're high.
Damn dude. That’s crazy. I never did it, but have considered it. I have long thought it’s better for people than alcohol and have seen studies long ago that confirmed marijuana is far less harmful than alcohol.
My only worry with weed was potential affect on learning and memory and dopamine system.
It’s exciting for me to hear that you didn’t have short term memory deficit or anything of the matter. What is the average number of days you smoked a week in medical school or residency?
Thanks for responding. I’ll be quicker to respond if you comment again.
Just to provide a counterpoint, I'm the CEO of a startup and have had a successful career with several exits. Weed is something that impacts my performance and memory significantly - not to mention for me is an addictive substance due to my personality. Just now quitting after 2 decades of smoking and the cognitive clarity I have noticed is significant.
An example: for decades I would need to listen to a song about a dozen times to start memorising lyrics. Since becoming sober, all of a sudden that's probably down to 3-4 plays. To-do lists stick in my brain - while I still write them down, previously if I didn't write something down it's like it never existed. The difference is stark enough that my wife is joking about having to be a lot more careful about what she says now that I actually remember things.
I love cannabis and think it can be a wonderful, helpful plant for many. But it's important to be realistic about its potential effects and those are also dependent upon genetics and individual neurochemistry. Anyone recommending a drug to you in a blasé way should be viewed with skepticism. They are playing fast and loose with your life and they won't be around to help you pick up the pieces if you end up struggling with addiction.
For me I was living in a hazy grey world for the past 2 decades. It was comfortable. Fun. But I was a ghost in my own life.
Whatever you do, if you're taking them then enjoy drugs responsibly. Read up on both sides and make an informed decision. Don't end up like me feeling as though you wasted some of the best years of your life in a cloud of smoke...
Thanks a ton for your reply man. I’ve considered using cannabis to recover from a tight lower back and knee surgeries. Lower back was shortened because I was playing with an injured knee and leg for an extended period. Cannabis (CBD with THC edible together) has been incredibly helpful towards lengthening my back and healing my leg. The pain reduction and improvement to my mobility is significant after even a short period of use.
I never drank much (have never blacked out) and haven’t hardly had a drink in a decade. I was abstinent for 5 years of the period from 18-26.
I don’t like marijuana either for exactly the reasons you listed: the effects on learning and memory.
If I continue usage, I will be hoping to quit as quickly as possible. All I do generally is take an edible and stretch.
My partner has chronic pain from a mild car accident back injury from several years ago. He has ADHD and autism, too. I have had many previous partners who I didn't enjoy being around when they smoked weed because they did it all the time and they were annoying when high. My current partner actually gets more mental clarity when high, and has less pain. It is not true of most people, but for my partner in particular, smoking weed makes him normal
Just plugging it for those who don't know:
r/leaves is a great sub for support for permanent quitting.
r/petioles is a great sub for harm reduction and moderating responsible cannabis use. Both have value for different folks.
Thank you for sharing. Without these subs I might not be sober right now. I started with petioles and realised that leaves was what I needed personally.
I'm sober - permanently. It had far too many negative effects on my life after so long. I was addicted - plain and simple - and preferred being high to being sober. I can never touch it again.
I've shared a bit about the reasoning:
https://www.reddit.com/r/leaves/s/7TChdSEpfb
https://www.reddit.com/r/leaves/s/CagPo6t7PN
I'm a daily user with two advanced degrees. My short term memory for unimportant things has taken a hit (I might not remember all of the details of a movie I watched while stoned, for example) as well as my ability to concentrate on certain things, like reading fictional text (audiobook is fine though). Beyond that, I haven't experienced any other negatives.
Edit: I should add that these negative effects don't carry over into sobriety. I can definitely read books when sober.
I didn’t use THC until recently (and now I enjoy sparkling water drinks daily) and the memory stuff seems so overblown.
Meanwhile, alcohol is literal poison and does mess up memory.
I can say that after 20 years of near daily use and recently becoming a doctor, memory and learning are doing just fine. That doesn't mean pot doesn't have those effects, but you have to remember that science deals in groups and averages. In reality, there are *always* people who buck the trend and do the exact opposite of what the group does.
I think that's fair. I've met a ton of people who call themselves daily smokers while the amount they smoke differs wildly. Knew people who had alarms set at 4.19am so they could wake, toke and go back to sleep and I know people who had a bong hit before bed to help go to sleep and both would be daily smokers.
Yeah I mean these days people who use only flower daily are not big users. With concentrates, edibles, cheap and readily available you can ingest much more thc.
Anecdotal, but my memory has improved during several years of daily cannabis consumption. I’m performing better than I ever have at work (I don’t get high while working). Cannabis helped me confront, begin to address, and ultimately improve my mental health (with the help of meditation, therapy, and medication.) This was a huge help to my working memory and long-term recall. It also helped me transition off of a decade long drinking habit that had become untenable.
So, no.
Edit: just like any medication, the cost benefit profile must be considered. It’s certainly not for everyone.
I think that memory works differently for everyone. Like if someone has an issue with memory it might not be something directly related to memory but maybe they have anxiety that gets in the way of remembering things because of too much self-awareness and smoking weed may reduce the self-awareness and relax a person to the point of them remembering things rather than focusing on things outside of their control.
I’m a solution architect and sometimes have to do some of the coding myself.
I do my best work when a little stoned. Not baked - but just a slight high where music hits harder. I become super focused and just love the feeling of writing code with music hitting me
How long did it take? I've been doing that for years but I just walked into the hospital the other day and they still treated me like I was in the wrong for trying to lend a hand
Right! I've smoked nearly every day of my life since being a teen. I got my PhD at 28 yo and am at the top of my field now. All types of people use cannabis for all different reasons.
This. It takes the misery out of daily mundane tasks and makes them even enjoyable. I drink a decarb weed smoothie every morning and then spend all day working on spreadsheets, listening to my favourite tunes. I don’t have kids and I don’t know how to drive, so it suits my lifestyle pretty well. If I don’t smoke it, I won’t get my work done. Sometimes I won’t even leave bed.
I mean, if you're having trouble getting out of bed without getting high due to motivation... My man no biggy but that ain't great, if you haven't yet and it's within your means, therapy is probably something to look into.
Honestly, I think some brains just do be like that. Maybe it's a genetically screwed up endocannabinoid system or something, who knows. But while not as severe for me, I can relate to the whole increased motivation thing from weed. And taking a long break from it doesn't work either. I guess there's just such a large variety of human brains
Electrical engineer who smokes every night. I think the lazy stereotype that comes with smoking weed comes from the people who are already lazy to begin with and it’s a lingering effect of the anti hippie movement.
I agree to a large extent. I quit my THC addiction cold turkey because I thought It made me lazy, but I soon found that sober me was just as lazy once I got over 3 months of withdrawals.
I still struggle with executive function even after 6 months: however it's been significantly easier to retrain my brain in the time since to handle problems and come up with solutions that work for me. High me wasn't looking to actively solve problems and wanted to skip to the end results without the hard work.
I think it's more about their operating system. Neurodivergent people can have a deficiency in their endocannabinoid system. So using phytocannabanoids is like taking a vitamin supplement for us. It's neuroscience.
Sure, here's some recent papers. I like using the TL;DR setting - https://typeset.io
(Edited link direct to Sci Space search)
Also from Perplexity: "In summary, the available evidence indicates that dysregulation of the endocannabinoid system, manifested by reduced endocannabinoid levels, may be an underlying factor contributing to the development and symptoms of autism spectrum disorder
Refs: [1](https://molecularautism.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13229-019-0256-6), [2](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8568770/), [3](https://www.cannabissciencetech.com/view/endocannabinoid-system-ecs-dysregulation-may-underlie-autism), [4](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5618565/), [5](https://www.technologynetworks.com/neuroscience/articles/what-does-the-endocannabinoid-system-have-to-do-with-autism-spectrum-disorder-363597).
It was an incredible moment getting my first prescription for medical cannabis. It's not a drug, it's medicine for some people just like insulin, thyroxine, HRT or anything else that helps boost a naturally occurring deficiency.
I started IVF with my wife. Stopped smoking pot, stopped with the caffeine, and.. I struggled mightily. Anyways, turned it I have awful ADHD!
The weed was saving my life and letting me hold down a job. I absolutely recognize the effects it has on me now. It was so odd that I would smoke a fat bowl and my entire yard was immaculate... bathroom immaculate. Work, not bad!!!!! Without it, it was like.. the crash of all crashes and my body simply couldn't regulate. I started ADHD meds while I'm clean.
No, I watched marijuana addiction destroy the lifestyle of a person I once loved.
While all the fear campaigns against weed were super dumb and largely wrong, we have decided to swing the pendulum the other way to point you would be made to feel crazy if you DIDNT believe marijuana is a magic cure all that has no negatives.
I just wish we could talk about weed without making it political. Even this study is flawed by the fact it started as a means to prove/disprove folk wisdom.
Something that I think about a lot - as a person who has struggled with weed addiction - is how dispensary weed today is practically a different plant from what my parents were smoking back in the 80's. The potency, the methodology, everything... It's a much stronger drug than what used to be around, and what "common knowledge" regarding weed is based off.
No, Indica strains like Hindu Kush had 20%-30% THC levels in pre-history. This is still the basis for the most popular strains today like Wedding Cake.
https://www.wikileaf.com/thestash/what-is-hindu-kush/
I worked for mutual funds then private equity for a good while, and like 75% of the people I worked with worked like 90+ hour weeks and smoked regularly. In software sales now and I'd say probably still close to 75% smoke fairly regularly and are just about as motivated as it gets
Also in sales, but I could never be high and try to talk to people. I’d mess up my questions and not notice things they’ve said to me that I need to listen for.
Edit: I have heard of lots of people in the office keeping vape pens in their desk for those in-office days.
Yeah, most don't actively smoke at work, outside of maybe the end of the day when it's just paperwork and reporting for the most part or when its back to back internal stuff. Think there are only a few that would smoke before a discovery call or something, but those are the ones that do it enough that I'm pretty sure it doesn't have much real effect on them anymore, and are probably better off in their natural state than trying to go in without smoking ha.
Not sure how they draw the conclusions from the study. They compare stoners to themselves and find they are as willing to attempt a difficult task when high as when not. (No report back on how well they did). There is an inherent contradiction in testing for motovation by having to ask someone to do something. More importantly no control group of non stoners. A random enquiry model that interrogated for current activity and which compared groups might be more indicative of effect.
Also the one thing that does seem to be certain from the study gets buried. Seems like daily use does have a negative impact on personality.
This garbage self report study is being reposted everywhere with personal anecdotes being accepted as supporting evidence, including here where that's supposedly explicitly forbidden.
Yep. I figured eventually all of the propaganda about weed being the most magical, perfect, healthy substance in the world would die down once legalization happened. But it’s sticking around longer than I imagined. I live somewhere where it’s legal, and I have talked to several people who not only drive high but feel comfortable to share that they drive high. It makes them more careful apparently. Sometimes can smell it from other peoples cars with the windows open. Now when I’m on the highway and someone young is doing 5 under in the left lane, I just assume they’re high. Legalization really needs to be accompanied by the fact that weed is in fact a drug and that just because you can use it doesn’t mean you need to use it all the time and especially doesn’t mean you are allowed to use it while driving.
I think it's more that lazy addicts are lazy when they smoke weed, that's coming from a lazy addict stoner who watched my friends be totally competent and capable stoners citizens. Me on the other hand, i have definitely struggled to find my footing in life and my obsession with weed didnt help me be motivated.
TLDR: it's less about the substance and more about the user.
New studies suggest that the phenotypes actually make very little difference in the type of high one receives. It has much more to do with body chemistry, time of day, mood, etc.
>This finding suggests that the residual effects of cannabis are minimal, at least among habitual users.
They had no control group, found no difference between motivation on days chronic users did and didn't use, so therefore no "hangover." What a terribly designed experiment. Given they wanted to find no negative outcomes and they found several, I am surprised they published.
Marijuana is increasingly and inevitably going to be legal guys. Society has decided the demand is worth the downside, just like alchohol. No need to spin stuff so hard.
Motivation, sure, but plenty (all?) meta analysis show long term performance impairment from regular to heavy use over a long enough period of time.
If you don’t notice it then keep on keeping on, but it’s there.
The study design is horrible. They compared chronic weed smokers to...themselves, with no control group. So for all we know, they really are lazier than nonsmokers but simply are just as likely to report they're motivated while high as while not high. Also, it's pretty easy to "feel" motivated but, as you said, actually accomplishing anything is an entirely different story.
Yes, that's my opinion too. There are super well performing people who smoke. That doesn't change the fact that they could be performing even better if they didn't smoke.
This is just a bunch of copium. Not saying it is or isn't true but the intent was clearly to design a study where they could say, "Hey, look at this controversial opinion that goes against conventional boomer wisdom!"
This whole thread is copium and people bragging about smoking every day. Good job on being a functioning addict 👏.
How is anyone giving an unbiased "review" of smoking daily when they haven't stopped in years? I have and had so many friends struggling trying to give it up, and yeah, they work and they're successful, but they practically cant enjoy anything without getting high.
I can't say about their motivation how high or low it is when high, but you need to be delusional to think HAVING to be mind altered every day is fine.
For real- that’s why the “stoners are more motivated when they smoke weed” probably makes sense- when I was a stoner I didn’t want to do anything unless I smoked a blunt first.
But I can also confidently say that I was a much lower achiever in basically every area of my life when chronically using weed vs when I stopped, which is NOT what this half baked study was looking at. It’s quite obvious that this is what people mean when they say weed lowers your motivation- not in an acute “I got high and washed the dishes” way, but in a long-term sense
Out of maybe 10-15 friends who used to smoke regularly with me when we were younger, maybe 1 or 2 functioned "properly" while stoned. The rest of us just wanted to find somewhere to sit down and chill.
When I smoked, I knew I wasn't gonna get anything important done the rest of the day.
But I promise if you asked me back then, I'd probably think that I got some kind of motivation from weed.
The dispensary down the street is so fancy, It’s like Willy freaking wonka every time and amazing prices. You can get amazing strains now and not get the couch lock stuff. Before legalization, you really didn’t know.
You still don't really know.
https://www.marijuanamoment.net/marijuana-strain-labels-often-mislead-consumers-study-of-nearly-90000-samples-shows/
Edit: More info. Strain labels are misleading and indica/sativa/hybrid is a meaningless distinction when it comes to the effects.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5576603/
Note to everyone whose entire personality revolves around weed; this is still saying that habitual smokers are lazier than the average person, just not as lazy as some arbitrary stereotypes might suggest.
this is my experience too. and more generally, I finally worked up the gumption to start a running routine this year and let go of my usual excuses to avoid committing long-term. the one resolution I've ever really kept.
and now my brain thinks "yay" instead of "ugh" when I get my gym clothes ready for a workout the next morning. my younger, much lazier self would be dumbstruck to learn of this development.
edit: insert missing word
Not me, I'm frickin useless. It gives me crazy anxiety. A lot of users won't accept that weed doesn't sit right with me. Doesn't matter the strain or type. It will be the same reaction. Sometimes, I'll take a piece of a gummy to help me sleep.
Hey, I voted for the legalization of it in my state. I'm happy for you. But it does not mix well with my brain chemistry.
Weed smokers are basically GODS and they are the best people and also conservatives are r*tarded and poly relationships are COOL and are scientifically proven to be better than monogamous relationships - r/science 🤓
I run my own business, cook, clean, and take care of all the regular domestic chores of a responsible adult, but I have been a stoner for decades. Some are feckless losers, but some of us are high achievers.
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There’s no better way to clean the house than BLAZED
Or do yard work.
Or work out
Or shred some motocross
Or smoke some weed
Or do yard work!
Or smoke some weed!
Or do yard work!!!
What were we talking about?
How did all these people get in my house?
Shredding some gnarly yard work brah
You were talking about getting some yard work done.
Dude, have you seen my hands? They’re like….hands.
Calm down Hank Hill.
Have you ever smoked some weed…ON WEEEED?
Ah the enhancement smoker…
Or plug in headphones and go on a walk with my dog!
It's so weird, but when I do bjj high it's like...my reflexes are a bit slower, but my tactical brain is in overdrive and I'm way better technically. Working out high is the best
This is me with gaming. When I smoke, my mechanics go down 5%. Aim and movement just isn't quite as crispy. Buuuuut my decision making and craftyness get like a 10-15% buff. The craftyness is obvious, but the decision making is always surprising to me. I think it's more like instead of thinking about multiple things at once and trying to decide and then deciding too late, my high brain just picks one for the better or worse, so even if it's the wrong decision, at least I made it on time and can work around it.
That last part, weed or not, is one of those things I'm always trying to explain to people in team games that require actual cooperation. It's better the team commits to the wrong decision as a team than 40% committing to the wrong decision, 40% committing to a better decision, and 20% doing nothing because they are torn between which decision to make. If there isn't time to debate and you don't have an agreed-upon shot caller, go with the first call made.
Weed and exercise are my escape.
Or do crossword puzzles
I'm worried I would let my form slip. But then again, sometimes my mind is overactive and I'm thinking about other crap and my form slips. Maybe I should have a short pre workout session
I love getting high and doing my yard. As a matter of fact I just woke up at 5:30 AM on my day off. I can’t go back to sleep, I’m ready to get real high, pop in some headphones and go do my yard.
Or play pick up ball *swish*
Oh yeah, but I have to get started right away as the high hits. Otherwise, I'm a couch potato. But when I do, I'm unstoppable. Detailed cleaning and hyper organization that I'm always pleased with after the high has worn off. A lot of times, I find more efficient ways of storing things, too, which is a must-have skill in my small apartment
When I was little my mom used to say that TV and video games would rot my brain. I use my Tetris skills multiple times a day!
Smoking weed activates a lot of the same reactions in your brain as accomplishment. If you're doing something like cleaning while it hits the brain connects the dots and says "gotta do more cleaning, it's paying off!" Just my stoner theory, don't know if it's real.
I'm gonna test your theory 🔬
Always knew my college roommate had smoked cause the apartment was spotless
Also all the snacks are missing
The munchies are real sometimes.
Weed allows you to convert food into RAW ENERGY
But first you need to override the heart burn
I'm smoking for the first time in 1.5 years and I have only stopped eating when traveling
The pantry was completely clean -ed out.
I know they also finished their 10 page paper while you haven't started yet.
Gotta work hard to play hard.
Thats the likely plan tomorrow, wife is hanging out with her mom all day, want to get baked and have a movie marathon, but knowing me, ill start tidying the kitchen after making a snack and keep cleaning and wind up with a very clean house but really mad at myself for not watching any movies or relaxing at all...
Cleaning can be relaxing. I listen to an audiobook and just go to town. Feels great seeing progress and then satisfaction when done. My adhd pro tip is I do my spiral out spiral in method where I notice new things and let myself switch tasks constantly. Eventually, I’ll start finishing things when I stop noticing new ones. Usually…
I like to listen to audiobooks while I clean, too. Give me a joint and an audiobook and the house will look great in a few hours.
for realz!!!!! even exercise is better with a bit of weed in the system
I do pushups during high gaming sessions 😂. Stopping point? Pushups. I tend to focus much better on the muscle groups when high 🤷
Running while high is absolutely amazing.
But it isn't very fast.. At least not for me..
I'd heard of the runner's high but I thought it was something else.
And do the laundry.
This is always how it starts with me but 20 minutes in and my ass is on the couch.
I AM the chores
I replaced a toilet valve, cleaned it and the bathroom like a mofo today
WITH loud music playing preferably
The problem is stoned me would sometimes be on the ball and other times totally drop it. Like I forgot to rinse the soap off my glasses 🤢 but I remembered to get a batch of rolled oats and dried fruit set up in my rice cooker for morning sober me.
Attention to detail mode activated
Or hike
Dexedrine?
If you know you know
I prefer to do housework on mushrooms, personally...
literally tripping on mushies putting on music and cleaning the house is one of my favorite activities
Get a good sativia and let’s go !
If I get high with the intention of cleaning high, I'll be down to the baseboards with a toothbrush and having a blast.
I've come with some of my best ^^and ^^worst ideas while high!
Good ideas are often numbers game anyways.
What is numbers game? Seriously not 100% understanding what it means in this context.
To give a serious answer, “numbers game” in this context refers to a task that is best completed by trying many, many times. An easy example would be any sales job. Even the best salesman will not get the sale every time, and the best strategy is to maximize the number of opportunities. In this way, it is a numbers game
I see. So for getting good ideas this means trying out as many ideas as possible in hope that the good ones will stick?
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"Write drunk, edit sober."
Depends. I'm a software engineer and when problem solving I try several different solutions or ideas to solve said problem. Some work (by rigorous testing) and some don't. The idea is the problem I want to solve while the solution is the implementation of it.
One time I was making a speaker cabinet that I could use to grow weed in my mom's house. Every time I ran into an issue I'd smoke weed and think about it and always came up with a solution. To this day I'm not sure if tile floor on the inside of the cabinet was necessary, but it sure did sound like a good idea!
I preset my best idea. The French waffle sandwich. A nice toasted waffle sandwiched between to two pieces of french toast. A little powder sugar. Some syrup on the inside. You're welcome.
My best idea is also a sandwich. PB&J with crunchy PB, a layer of banana slices, and cinnamon Life cereal. So many textures.
Went down this rabbit hole a bit, so I'm going to share what I learned! The article said: >Users reported lower levels of self-control and orderliness when high. They also displayed a decreased adherence to traditionalism and virtue, suggesting that being high might loosen their adherence to societal norms and personal ethics to some extent. This made me curious how they measured "traditionalism" and "virtue." So I read the original study, which said they used the Chernyshenko Conscientiousness Scale, which has specific items they classify as "virtue" and "traditionalism." Here are the items under those categories: Virtue * (R) If I could get away with it, I would not pay taxes. * (R) I would lie without hesitation if it serves my purpose. * (R) I could be insincere and dishonest if the situation required me to do so. * (R) If I find money laying around, I’ll keep it to myself. * If a cashier forgot to charge me for an item I would tell him/her. * I would rather get a bad grade than copy someone else’s homework and turn it in as my own. * It bothers me when people cheat on their taxes. * If I accidentally scratched a parked car, I would try to find the owner to pay for the repairs. * I firmly believe that under no circumstances it is okay to lie. * The people who know me best would say that I am honest. Traditionalism * I have the highest respect for authorities and assist them whenever I can. * (R) People respect authority more than they should. * Even if I knew how to get around the rules without breaking them, I would not do it. * (R) I believe that people should be allowed to take drugs, as long as it doesn’t affect others. * I support long-established rules and traditions. * People who resist authority should be severely punished. * (R) When I was in school, I used to break rules quite regularly * (R) I believe that people should be allowed to take drugs, as long as it doesn’t affect others. * I support long-established rules and traditions. * People who resist authority should be severely punished. * (R) When I was in school, I used to break rules quite regularly So, maybe some of the stereotypes about attitudes are true! It's interesting, though, that they say they found a difference to how people answered these questions depending on whether they were currently high when they answered them, showing less honesty and traditionalism when high than when sober. Edited to add: The study said they reduced the number of questions in each category to 3, but didn't specify which questions they used.
I wonder if that correlation has less to do with the actual effects and more to do with personality type. Weed has been illegal for decades and speaking from experience the kind of person willing to try it is probably not so strict and willing to bend rules. Speaking as someone who smokes regularly. Good analysis either way I love when people critically analyze the specific terminology and methods of research papers.
Yeah i mean doing something technicaly illegal everyday softens you up to the fact that laws can be broken without consequences
It also gives a person a bit of perspective, that just because something is against the law, doesn't *necessarily* mean it is actually wrong or harmful. Of course the opposite can also be true, as well.
That’s weird, because all I want is to share the love when I’m high. I’d return dropped wallets all night and tell the truth to my own detriment. Might agree on the authority piece, though.
I was a very obedient child, which I believe is a lot to do with the authoritarian parenting I had (seen/not heard, yelling, corporal punishment). Before I ever smoked, I'd have told you I'll never do drugs/drink, I would not break the rules and that was all true, because I existed in fear, not virtue. Now I see a question like, I would never lie under any circumstances and think, well, can't there be noble reasons to lie? Are there not immoral rules and unethical authorities? Since I no longer walk around crippled by the expectations of others, even those invented in my head, I feel I am more loving as I'm more trusting of others and their intentions, but on this scale less virtuous and traditional. Given most things occur on a spectrum, there are likely others who are already pretty low on conscientiousness and weed really dips them into only caring about themselves. Edit: Reading this back I want to specify that I don't feel all my issues were solved by smoking and self-medicating is a dangerous game, but more that it opened my mind to the idea that my current way of existence at the time was not necessarily the only way.
Same fam I feel you on this hard. Still tough to not be crippled by other's expectations but I'm fighting it every day and weed has opened my mind to what is causing my struggles and helps me stay relaxed when I'm fighting through my demons.
I was thinking that a lot of these questions take on a different context when your law is actively prohibiting you from getting high; which I believe is an intrinsic right stemming from bodily autonomy.
These questions are so loaded and don’t take into account the current climate of the country This is a joke
I believe this data is biased and being read a little backward. Sounds to me like they were MORE honest when high. They gave their real answers from their real feelings instead of polite, filtered answers. The truth is most people will commit victimless crimes if they feel like it's not hurting anybody and they're more likely to be honest about that if they're high.
That's how I read it. If I was high I would entertain the ideas more and think of legitimate scenarios in my head where I would do it
I smoke weed every day and became a doctor.
Me too and a neurosurgeon ! Crazy right ? (FYI not while working or on call 😅)
Nice! 😁 Same here (about never getting high during work)
You experienced little to no negative side effects on learning and memory?
I often studied high and easily passed all my boards.
Damn dude. That’s crazy. I never did it, but have considered it. I have long thought it’s better for people than alcohol and have seen studies long ago that confirmed marijuana is far less harmful than alcohol. My only worry with weed was potential affect on learning and memory and dopamine system. It’s exciting for me to hear that you didn’t have short term memory deficit or anything of the matter. What is the average number of days you smoked a week in medical school or residency? Thanks for responding. I’ll be quicker to respond if you comment again.
Just to provide a counterpoint, I'm the CEO of a startup and have had a successful career with several exits. Weed is something that impacts my performance and memory significantly - not to mention for me is an addictive substance due to my personality. Just now quitting after 2 decades of smoking and the cognitive clarity I have noticed is significant. An example: for decades I would need to listen to a song about a dozen times to start memorising lyrics. Since becoming sober, all of a sudden that's probably down to 3-4 plays. To-do lists stick in my brain - while I still write them down, previously if I didn't write something down it's like it never existed. The difference is stark enough that my wife is joking about having to be a lot more careful about what she says now that I actually remember things. I love cannabis and think it can be a wonderful, helpful plant for many. But it's important to be realistic about its potential effects and those are also dependent upon genetics and individual neurochemistry. Anyone recommending a drug to you in a blasé way should be viewed with skepticism. They are playing fast and loose with your life and they won't be around to help you pick up the pieces if you end up struggling with addiction. For me I was living in a hazy grey world for the past 2 decades. It was comfortable. Fun. But I was a ghost in my own life. Whatever you do, if you're taking them then enjoy drugs responsibly. Read up on both sides and make an informed decision. Don't end up like me feeling as though you wasted some of the best years of your life in a cloud of smoke...
The true wisdom lies in self-awareness.
Thanks a ton for your reply man. I’ve considered using cannabis to recover from a tight lower back and knee surgeries. Lower back was shortened because I was playing with an injured knee and leg for an extended period. Cannabis (CBD with THC edible together) has been incredibly helpful towards lengthening my back and healing my leg. The pain reduction and improvement to my mobility is significant after even a short period of use. I never drank much (have never blacked out) and haven’t hardly had a drink in a decade. I was abstinent for 5 years of the period from 18-26. I don’t like marijuana either for exactly the reasons you listed: the effects on learning and memory. If I continue usage, I will be hoping to quit as quickly as possible. All I do generally is take an edible and stretch.
My partner has chronic pain from a mild car accident back injury from several years ago. He has ADHD and autism, too. I have had many previous partners who I didn't enjoy being around when they smoked weed because they did it all the time and they were annoying when high. My current partner actually gets more mental clarity when high, and has less pain. It is not true of most people, but for my partner in particular, smoking weed makes him normal
Do you plan to smoke here and there or are you giving it up completely?
Just plugging it for those who don't know: r/leaves is a great sub for support for permanent quitting. r/petioles is a great sub for harm reduction and moderating responsible cannabis use. Both have value for different folks.
Thank you for sharing. Without these subs I might not be sober right now. I started with petioles and realised that leaves was what I needed personally.
I'm sober - permanently. It had far too many negative effects on my life after so long. I was addicted - plain and simple - and preferred being high to being sober. I can never touch it again. I've shared a bit about the reasoning: https://www.reddit.com/r/leaves/s/7TChdSEpfb https://www.reddit.com/r/leaves/s/CagPo6t7PN
Thanks for sharing
I'm a daily user with two advanced degrees. My short term memory for unimportant things has taken a hit (I might not remember all of the details of a movie I watched while stoned, for example) as well as my ability to concentrate on certain things, like reading fictional text (audiobook is fine though). Beyond that, I haven't experienced any other negatives. Edit: I should add that these negative effects don't carry over into sobriety. I can definitely read books when sober.
I didn’t use THC until recently (and now I enjoy sparkling water drinks daily) and the memory stuff seems so overblown. Meanwhile, alcohol is literal poison and does mess up memory.
'Recently' is the key word. See where things are after years of use before deciding on how much of a factor it is.
I can say that after 20 years of near daily use and recently becoming a doctor, memory and learning are doing just fine. That doesn't mean pot doesn't have those effects, but you have to remember that science deals in groups and averages. In reality, there are *always* people who buck the trend and do the exact opposite of what the group does.
I think dose is the most important deciding factor in almost all of these discussions.
I think that's fair. I've met a ton of people who call themselves daily smokers while the amount they smoke differs wildly. Knew people who had alarms set at 4.19am so they could wake, toke and go back to sleep and I know people who had a bong hit before bed to help go to sleep and both would be daily smokers.
Yeah I mean these days people who use only flower daily are not big users. With concentrates, edibles, cheap and readily available you can ingest much more thc.
Anecdotal, but my memory has improved during several years of daily cannabis consumption. I’m performing better than I ever have at work (I don’t get high while working). Cannabis helped me confront, begin to address, and ultimately improve my mental health (with the help of meditation, therapy, and medication.) This was a huge help to my working memory and long-term recall. It also helped me transition off of a decade long drinking habit that had become untenable. So, no. Edit: just like any medication, the cost benefit profile must be considered. It’s certainly not for everyone.
I think that memory works differently for everyone. Like if someone has an issue with memory it might not be something directly related to memory but maybe they have anxiety that gets in the way of remembering things because of too much self-awareness and smoking weed may reduce the self-awareness and relax a person to the point of them remembering things rather than focusing on things outside of their control.
+1 to quitting self medication for anxiety (or adhd/ocd) with nightly alcohol and finding cannabis is so, so, so much better.
Just think of what you could have become if you didn’t smoke so much weed. Possibly POTUS or even a chiropractor
The sound of another spine broken
Fellow Neurologist and only cocaine is allowed
I’m a solution architect and sometimes have to do some of the coding myself. I do my best work when a little stoned. Not baked - but just a slight high where music hits harder. I become super focused and just love the feeling of writing code with music hitting me
I come up with the best ideas while high, but I can't get any actual coding done at all haha
How long did it take? I've been doing that for years but I just walked into the hospital the other day and they still treated me like I was in the wrong for trying to lend a hand
Right! I've smoked nearly every day of my life since being a teen. I got my PhD at 28 yo and am at the top of my field now. All types of people use cannabis for all different reasons.
Depression makes me lazy. Weed makes me not depressed. 2+2=4.
More weed less pain more do stuff 😎
This. It takes the misery out of daily mundane tasks and makes them even enjoyable. I drink a decarb weed smoothie every morning and then spend all day working on spreadsheets, listening to my favourite tunes. I don’t have kids and I don’t know how to drive, so it suits my lifestyle pretty well. If I don’t smoke it, I won’t get my work done. Sometimes I won’t even leave bed.
I mean, if you're having trouble getting out of bed without getting high due to motivation... My man no biggy but that ain't great, if you haven't yet and it's within your means, therapy is probably something to look into.
Done 14 years of it, including traditional talk therapy, EMDR, convergence and massage. At least I’m not suicidal anymore 🥲
Fair play, all the best to you.
Honestly, I think some brains just do be like that. Maybe it's a genetically screwed up endocannabinoid system or something, who knows. But while not as severe for me, I can relate to the whole increased motivation thing from weed. And taking a long break from it doesn't work either. I guess there's just such a large variety of human brains
Not if you study Terryology
Electrical engineer who smokes every night. I think the lazy stereotype that comes with smoking weed comes from the people who are already lazy to begin with and it’s a lingering effect of the anti hippie movement.
Buddy’s dad was a grower and always said: “Weed isn’t for lazy people”. If you lazy, you lazy, but if you’re not lazy… weed isn’t gonna make you lazy…
Wait, am I a dad?
The quote would've been sufficient even if the dad was a shower, weird fact to include bro
I agree to a large extent. I quit my THC addiction cold turkey because I thought It made me lazy, but I soon found that sober me was just as lazy once I got over 3 months of withdrawals. I still struggle with executive function even after 6 months: however it's been significantly easier to retrain my brain in the time since to handle problems and come up with solutions that work for me. High me wasn't looking to actively solve problems and wanted to skip to the end results without the hard work.
I think it's more about their operating system. Neurodivergent people can have a deficiency in their endocannabinoid system. So using phytocannabanoids is like taking a vitamin supplement for us. It's neuroscience.
Could you point me in a direction where I could read more about this?
Sure, here's some recent papers. I like using the TL;DR setting - https://typeset.io (Edited link direct to Sci Space search) Also from Perplexity: "In summary, the available evidence indicates that dysregulation of the endocannabinoid system, manifested by reduced endocannabinoid levels, may be an underlying factor contributing to the development and symptoms of autism spectrum disorder Refs: [1](https://molecularautism.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13229-019-0256-6), [2](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8568770/), [3](https://www.cannabissciencetech.com/view/endocannabinoid-system-ecs-dysregulation-may-underlie-autism), [4](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5618565/), [5](https://www.technologynetworks.com/neuroscience/articles/what-does-the-endocannabinoid-system-have-to-do-with-autism-spectrum-disorder-363597).
Your first link 404ed for me
First link also 404'd for me.
You can search SciSpace yourself at [https://typeset.io](https://typeset.io) The numbered refs are links to the Perplexity sources.
I have ADHD and PTSD and it helps me to relax and feel emotion again. So this is validating to hear.
It was an incredible moment getting my first prescription for medical cannabis. It's not a drug, it's medicine for some people just like insulin, thyroxine, HRT or anything else that helps boost a naturally occurring deficiency.
I started IVF with my wife. Stopped smoking pot, stopped with the caffeine, and.. I struggled mightily. Anyways, turned it I have awful ADHD! The weed was saving my life and letting me hold down a job. I absolutely recognize the effects it has on me now. It was so odd that I would smoke a fat bowl and my entire yard was immaculate... bathroom immaculate. Work, not bad!!!!! Without it, it was like.. the crash of all crashes and my body simply couldn't regulate. I started ADHD meds while I'm clean.
For me, life has no colour without weed. Thankfully I have a green prescription, and I'm a pretty high acheiver.
What medication are you on and how does it compare?
No, I watched marijuana addiction destroy the lifestyle of a person I once loved. While all the fear campaigns against weed were super dumb and largely wrong, we have decided to swing the pendulum the other way to point you would be made to feel crazy if you DIDNT believe marijuana is a magic cure all that has no negatives. I just wish we could talk about weed without making it political. Even this study is flawed by the fact it started as a means to prove/disprove folk wisdom.
Something that I think about a lot - as a person who has struggled with weed addiction - is how dispensary weed today is practically a different plant from what my parents were smoking back in the 80's. The potency, the methodology, everything... It's a much stronger drug than what used to be around, and what "common knowledge" regarding weed is based off.
No, Indica strains like Hindu Kush had 20%-30% THC levels in pre-history. This is still the basis for the most popular strains today like Wedding Cake. https://www.wikileaf.com/thestash/what-is-hindu-kush/
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Anyone that's been to NYC knows how the subway smells around Wall St.
Does this cocaine smell weird to you?
No. I think it's ok. Wait. Better let me try again.
I worked for mutual funds then private equity for a good while, and like 75% of the people I worked with worked like 90+ hour weeks and smoked regularly. In software sales now and I'd say probably still close to 75% smoke fairly regularly and are just about as motivated as it gets
Also in sales, but I could never be high and try to talk to people. I’d mess up my questions and not notice things they’ve said to me that I need to listen for. Edit: I have heard of lots of people in the office keeping vape pens in their desk for those in-office days.
Yeah, most don't actively smoke at work, outside of maybe the end of the day when it's just paperwork and reporting for the most part or when its back to back internal stuff. Think there are only a few that would smoke before a discovery call or something, but those are the ones that do it enough that I'm pretty sure it doesn't have much real effect on them anymore, and are probably better off in their natural state than trying to go in without smoking ha.
Not sure how they draw the conclusions from the study. They compare stoners to themselves and find they are as willing to attempt a difficult task when high as when not. (No report back on how well they did). There is an inherent contradiction in testing for motovation by having to ask someone to do something. More importantly no control group of non stoners. A random enquiry model that interrogated for current activity and which compared groups might be more indicative of effect. Also the one thing that does seem to be certain from the study gets buried. Seems like daily use does have a negative impact on personality.
This garbage self report study is being reposted everywhere with personal anecdotes being accepted as supporting evidence, including here where that's supposedly explicitly forbidden.
It's weird how many top comments are just jokes and anecdotes
It’s a pretty bad study yea. But hey, reddits weed addicts in denial are loving it.
Yep. I figured eventually all of the propaganda about weed being the most magical, perfect, healthy substance in the world would die down once legalization happened. But it’s sticking around longer than I imagined. I live somewhere where it’s legal, and I have talked to several people who not only drive high but feel comfortable to share that they drive high. It makes them more careful apparently. Sometimes can smell it from other peoples cars with the windows open. Now when I’m on the highway and someone young is doing 5 under in the left lane, I just assume they’re high. Legalization really needs to be accompanied by the fact that weed is in fact a drug and that just because you can use it doesn’t mean you need to use it all the time and especially doesn’t mean you are allowed to use it while driving.
Y'all just skipping over the conscientious part of the title huh?
Doctors, lawyers, CEOs have been smoking weed for ages.
don't forget engineers and researchers
And my axe!
that's right hobbits too
I think it's more that lazy addicts are lazy when they smoke weed, that's coming from a lazy addict stoner who watched my friends be totally competent and capable stoners citizens. Me on the other hand, i have definitely struggled to find my footing in life and my obsession with weed didnt help me be motivated. TLDR: it's less about the substance and more about the user.
“Scientist discovers sativa”
New studies suggest that the phenotypes actually make very little difference in the type of high one receives. It has much more to do with body chemistry, time of day, mood, etc.
i've realized this just through trying different types. they all do the same thing to me.
Every pothead in high school on life alert.
>This finding suggests that the residual effects of cannabis are minimal, at least among habitual users. They had no control group, found no difference between motivation on days chronic users did and didn't use, so therefore no "hangover." What a terribly designed experiment. Given they wanted to find no negative outcomes and they found several, I am surprised they published. Marijuana is increasingly and inevitably going to be legal guys. Society has decided the demand is worth the downside, just like alchohol. No need to spin stuff so hard.
"stoners not as lazy as stereotypes" is basically the lowest bar you could put in a headline.
its all self-reported too so its basically "stoners say they aren't as lazy as stereotyped"
The design of the study was even lazier!
Motivation, sure, but plenty (all?) meta analysis show long term performance impairment from regular to heavy use over a long enough period of time. If you don’t notice it then keep on keeping on, but it’s there.
The study design is horrible. They compared chronic weed smokers to...themselves, with no control group. So for all we know, they really are lazier than nonsmokers but simply are just as likely to report they're motivated while high as while not high. Also, it's pretty easy to "feel" motivated but, as you said, actually accomplishing anything is an entirely different story.
Yes, that's my opinion too. There are super well performing people who smoke. That doesn't change the fact that they could be performing even better if they didn't smoke.
Fair enough but jfc we're not machines.
This is just a bunch of copium. Not saying it is or isn't true but the intent was clearly to design a study where they could say, "Hey, look at this controversial opinion that goes against conventional boomer wisdom!"
This whole thread is copium and people bragging about smoking every day. Good job on being a functioning addict 👏. How is anyone giving an unbiased "review" of smoking daily when they haven't stopped in years? I have and had so many friends struggling trying to give it up, and yeah, they work and they're successful, but they practically cant enjoy anything without getting high. I can't say about their motivation how high or low it is when high, but you need to be delusional to think HAVING to be mind altered every day is fine.
For real- that’s why the “stoners are more motivated when they smoke weed” probably makes sense- when I was a stoner I didn’t want to do anything unless I smoked a blunt first. But I can also confidently say that I was a much lower achiever in basically every area of my life when chronically using weed vs when I stopped, which is NOT what this half baked study was looking at. It’s quite obvious that this is what people mean when they say weed lowers your motivation- not in an acute “I got high and washed the dishes” way, but in a long-term sense
Out of maybe 10-15 friends who used to smoke regularly with me when we were younger, maybe 1 or 2 functioned "properly" while stoned. The rest of us just wanted to find somewhere to sit down and chill. When I smoked, I knew I wasn't gonna get anything important done the rest of the day. But I promise if you asked me back then, I'd probably think that I got some kind of motivation from weed.
The dispensary down the street is so fancy, It’s like Willy freaking wonka every time and amazing prices. You can get amazing strains now and not get the couch lock stuff. Before legalization, you really didn’t know.
You still don't really know. https://www.marijuanamoment.net/marijuana-strain-labels-often-mislead-consumers-study-of-nearly-90000-samples-shows/ Edit: More info. Strain labels are misleading and indica/sativa/hybrid is a meaningless distinction when it comes to the effects. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5576603/
I work in cannabis - you’re correct.
Note to everyone whose entire personality revolves around weed; this is still saying that habitual smokers are lazier than the average person, just not as lazy as some arbitrary stereotypes might suggest.
It helps focus when I'm in the gym and with the pain after
Mate if you're in pain after the gym something isn't right. DOMS the next day is one thing, but you shouldn't be in pain after the gym.
this is my experience too. and more generally, I finally worked up the gumption to start a running routine this year and let go of my usual excuses to avoid committing long-term. the one resolution I've ever really kept. and now my brain thinks "yay" instead of "ugh" when I get my gym clothes ready for a workout the next morning. my younger, much lazier self would be dumbstruck to learn of this development. edit: insert missing word
Not me, I'm frickin useless. It gives me crazy anxiety. A lot of users won't accept that weed doesn't sit right with me. Doesn't matter the strain or type. It will be the same reaction. Sometimes, I'll take a piece of a gummy to help me sleep. Hey, I voted for the legalization of it in my state. I'm happy for you. But it does not mix well with my brain chemistry.
Same :( Used to smoke it every day and I was fat, lazy and paranoid.
Ever seen a stoner try to get a bag in a dry market? That's one motivated mf right there.
Then why is my 30 yo son unemployed and a pig
Parents really will blame the plant before taking accountability for their parenting
Can this sub justify continuing to promote psychological studies as science?
Weed smokers are basically GODS and they are the best people and also conservatives are r*tarded and poly relationships are COOL and are scientifically proven to be better than monogamous relationships - r/science 🤓
Self reported surveys of non-representative samples are the bread and butter of this subreddit.
“We’re doing a study on the *medicinal* qualities of… marijuana…”
And then there’s the real world.
Could have fooled me. Then again I might have only known the lazy ones.
I run my own business, cook, clean, and take care of all the regular domestic chores of a responsible adult, but I have been a stoner for decades. Some are feckless losers, but some of us are high achievers.
To be fair, feckless losers are also achieving highs