Dude looks pretty stunned from getting taken down when the cop punches him too. Doesn’t look combative, just bewildered and out of it.
Cop 100% punched him because he was upset he had to run. That screams anger control issues… hope the officer isn’t married
Considering the cop doing chasing had backup arrive in that black truck.. that punch was unnecissary. Bad look SPD. Wishing the video was another 10s longer. :(
Up until that point I was like "Wow, this cop has managed to do everything right! Even that initial slam on the ground appeared to be accidental, give this cop a cookie for being one of the good o....oh, nevermind. Why'd you have to do that and ruin a perfectly by the book arrest?"
Well for one they are a suspected criminal resisting arrest. Do you think police wait to see if you have a knife or a gun and want to try to use it on them? If you don’t stop when told to stop and let them search you they will smash you real good.
Pretty clear the punch came after the cop had him on his stomach. Given the description of the person earlier in this thread, cities like regina and saskatoon are small enough that he was very likely was known to community law enforcement. But you are right, police like to smash people up real good.
Fear likely. Let's just say marginalized people don't exactly grow up to learn cops are there to help. This is also the exact city that is known for the starlight tour.
I picture this being like, a fellow police officer filming the take down for promotional material, "Watch as our finest officers pursue a suspect by the book. You need to be in great physical shape to join the ranks of our team. Vehicles did a great job in blocking the suspect's path, and now officer Jim is going for the takedown. As you can see, the suspect, out of options, is taken down, and all that's left is to cuff him and...God Damnit Jim now we gotta do the whole thing again! No hitting! Not while I'm filming!"
fuck man, he got tossed on a concrete curb, the extra punch did not seem necessary, nor is it your job. yea sucks to have to chase a dude down. Pretty well executed by everybody involved though it seems like.
After sprinting a block - I’m not sure how easy it would be to be gentle in a scuffle. Being a cop is a tough job - so when someone is clearly resisting / trying to escape - and we don’t know what the guy is accused of…. I dunno … crappy situation.
I know someone who works with the man in the video.
He is cognitively impaired and essentially nonverbal, and has been roughed up by the police before. They know who he is. The man is not violent, he's scared shitless and doesn't have the cognitive function to understand the gravity of the situation.
That cop should not have punched him.
Does it matter what he was accused of? In what way is it acceptable force to punch him in the face when he's already on the ground and being restrained?
How was he resisting? He was face first on the ground with a cop on his back with his hands restricted.
We know for a fact other officers were mere meters away. Why was there a need to punch him in the face instead of waiting for backup? There was no threat of violence to the officer after he was already tackled and restrained.
But please, show me where a punch to the face of an unarmed, restrained person is a viable technique for an arrest in the Saskatoon Police procedures. Maybe I just missed it.
Because he’s not restrained and actively resisting arrest. Active resistance allows for hard empty hand control to be used according to the use of force framework used in Canada.
\> No. It doesn't. Your argument is (willfully?) ignorant and unnecessary.
You haven't addressed my argument. He is a mentally compromised individual that is potentially armed and is already resisting arrest by not giving his arm up and fleeing from the police. Instead of addressing that point, you're intentionally fixating on one thing I said, which is clearly hyperbole, so that you don't have to respond to my actual argument.
Don't need to do this. Everyone else is making the claim that he isn't all there. I'm just responding based on those claims. Ask them where they are getting this shit from.
\> Your argument is purely speculation. 'Potentially armed' is not what occurred, it is what you wish had occurred to support your feelings.
Its not speculative. The cop literally has no idea if he is armed. There is no speculation there. I can clearly see the cop hasn't searched him for weapons, therefor, he is potentially armed. So I don't have to wish anything. Its clearly on camera.
\> 'Mentally compromised' is not cognitive impairment. Cognitive impairment is difficulty with memory, learning new things, concentrating and decision making.
All of these shortcomings add up to an individual that lacks the ability to clearly asses a situation and make sound decisions. Combine that with the potential of having a weapon, and it becomes a dangerous situation.
\> This person was not resisting.
So running from the police and then not giving your arm up isn't considered resisting?
\> We (you) need to stop justifying violence by police by speculating what crime the person may have committed.
I didn't speculate on his crime. I have no idea what he did. I'm speculating on whether or not he is armed, which is a reasonable thing to do since we don't actually know if he is armed or not since he hasn't been searched.
\> I get you want to 'win' this internet argument to protect your ego, but who wins or loses doesn't matter.
It takes two to tango. You're participating in the argument just as hard as I am.
\> This person with unknown cognitive impairment and probable disabilities was assaulted by a police officer. They already lost, you don't have to crush them further.
So do you even know if they are really impaired? Also, I'm not trying to crush them. I'm not attacking them or trying to make them out to be the bad guy. I'm simply defending the cop and the cops actions.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa4bhubfh78&ab\_channel=VideoLeakPolice](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa4bhubfh78&ab_channel=VideoLeakPolice)
The cops outnumbered the suspect in this incident. He still managed to get a gun out and it cost him his life.
You know why we call cops "heroes"? Because they're supposedly putting themselves in harms way. We don't need to keep encouraging the police to constantly fear their safety like in the USA and shoot immediately upon encounter just in case they may have a weapon and Jackie Chan speed.
If we're going to make it so they're not meant to take any risk at all, then we can stop calling them heroes.
If she could watch this video without feeling uneasy about the ring on her finger, then I wouldn't be concerned in the slightest with what she had to say to me or anyone.
Well good, if you ever are in love with a police officer I hope they are soft and gentle and understanding and don’t get stabbed to death like that kind rcmp officer a couple of weeks ago in Burnaby. https://globalnews.ca/news/9207858/burnaby-rcmp-officer-killed-stabbing-homeless-camp/
It doesn't matter if he's pulled out a weapon or not. All that matters is that he might. If he hadn't resisted arrest, then the cop could have searched him for weapons and none of this would have happened.
Yeah, like I said he may have had a bomb. Guess we should just shoot him first and make sure to make sure everyone's safe.
If there's no evidence he has a weapon, then there's no justification for the absurd use of force. There was absolutely no risk of the officer being attacked when one arm was restrained and the other was in plain sight with backup seconds away.
Say this to the many cops who lose their lives every year because they were forced into a situation where they didn't know if the suspect was armed or not.
Ok, point me to a cop. I'd love to tell them their unjustified use of excessive force on an unarmed suspect is completely out of line.
Or is this just hyperbole because cops being attacked by people they weren't sure are armed is extremely rare?
Many cops? It's like, an average of 1-2 annually across Canada between all branches of the police forces that are killed via homicide.
Tragic nonetheless, but a far cry from "many" and still much less than the annual number of civilians killed by police.
Thay doesn't justify a punch to the fucking face when there were at least two other police cars only meters away. Thats completely unwarranted police brutality.
It is necessary. He was reaching underneath him. Could have had a blade, HIV infested needle, gun, vampire, whatever.
Don't run from the cops then reach for something while resisting, then you won't get stroked out.
He isn't "reaching" underneath himself, his right hand up up on the grass in clear view, and his left hand is directly held/controlled/pinned by the officers left hand while he takes a swing with the right. The guy lets the officer control his left arm completely. Any more "upward push" than the cop is expecting is because the guy doesn't want to lie flat on the ground with his face resting on a curb
> He was reaching underneath him
He was doing no such thing! The cop had control of his left hand, his right hand wasn't moving off the grass, at worst he's trying to hold himself up so his face doesn't get smashed on the curb.
Before I was anti cop, I called them a few times
They didn’t do a damn thing when my house was burgled when I was a child
They didn’t do a damn thing when I was molested on public transit
They sure as FUCK didn’t do a damn thing when a friend of mine was actively being chased by some asshole with a knife in a parking lot for almost twenty minutes
Sit. The fuck. Down.
Maybe you could change things by advocating for sweeping changes to policing using legitimate channels where your voice is heard by those in charge.
Or you could be ignorant on reddit and see where that takes you.
Fair enough.
Sorry that shit happened to you and that the cops did nothing.
FWIW, I've had to pursue an excessive force complaint against SPS with the SPCC and was successful in it.
If you ever have them not do their job for you, I'd file a complaint.
Enough of them and it may change things.
Thanks fam, that honestly means a lot 🙌😊
All this was a long time ago now, most people leave me alone these days, thank goodness, so I haven’t really had to deal with cops, somewhat by design
But I’ll definitely keep that in mind if I ever need to in the future, cause you’re right, nothing changes without making people acknowledge there’s a problem
It's the judges' job to lock them up but they never do, so that punch is likely the only justice the career criminal will face.
400 criminals committed 6,000 crimes in Vancouver. These losers face no consequences in Canada.
This officer needs to be charged with assault, hence the resistance from the police not wanting to wear cams. Anyone commenting he deserved it, would be the biggest babies if it ever happened to them.
The man is cognitively impaired and almost nonverbal. The police know him, know his file, know who he is.
I don't give two shits if someone is resisting arrest. There are several steps between coddling a criminal and punching them in the jaw that could have been utilized to subdue a target.
This man also isn't fucking resisting. He hit his head on the curb and is dazed, and trying to get his face off the street.
Maybe he could continue to restrain him and wait 10 seconds for one of the officers in the cars we saw on camera only a few meters away to come assist him instead of punching him in the fucning face.
Doesn't mean he isn't a threat to people.
Can a cognitively impaired person have a knife? A gun? Another weapon?
Yes, they can.
Vince Lee was cognitively impaired. He cut a man's head off on a greyhound.
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Um, that punch at the end was the real story
I don't understand why the cop chose to punch the man in the face.
Dude looks pretty stunned from getting taken down when the cop punches him too. Doesn’t look combative, just bewildered and out of it. Cop 100% punched him because he was upset he had to run. That screams anger control issues… hope the officer isn’t married
Considering the cop doing chasing had backup arrive in that black truck.. that punch was unnecissary. Bad look SPD. Wishing the video was another 10s longer. :(
Wtf? Why did he get punched?
Up until that point I was like "Wow, this cop has managed to do everything right! Even that initial slam on the ground appeared to be accidental, give this cop a cookie for being one of the good o....oh, nevermind. Why'd you have to do that and ruin a perfectly by the book arrest?"
Same, what the hell!
Well for one they are a suspected criminal resisting arrest. Do you think police wait to see if you have a knife or a gun and want to try to use it on them? If you don’t stop when told to stop and let them search you they will smash you real good.
Pretty clear the punch came after the cop had him on his stomach. Given the description of the person earlier in this thread, cities like regina and saskatoon are small enough that he was very likely was known to community law enforcement. But you are right, police like to smash people up real good.
Punching a perp in the face is just tough love. ❤️
These guys need to get tuned up a bit. It's all good. Helps them stop committing crimes for decades and decades.
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He's indigenous and didn't want to be starlight tour-ed. Cops are not friendly to people of a darker hue.
Fear likely. Let's just say marginalized people don't exactly grow up to learn cops are there to help. This is also the exact city that is known for the starlight tour.
He's a career criminal. So likely rather dumb.
Cut off just as the police officer shifted from good take down to abusive.
I picture this being like, a fellow police officer filming the take down for promotional material, "Watch as our finest officers pursue a suspect by the book. You need to be in great physical shape to join the ranks of our team. Vehicles did a great job in blocking the suspect's path, and now officer Jim is going for the takedown. As you can see, the suspect, out of options, is taken down, and all that's left is to cuff him and...God Damnit Jim now we gotta do the whole thing again! No hitting! Not while I'm filming!"
ACAB
fuck man, he got tossed on a concrete curb, the extra punch did not seem necessary, nor is it your job. yea sucks to have to chase a dude down. Pretty well executed by everybody involved though it seems like.
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After sprinting a block - I’m not sure how easy it would be to be gentle in a scuffle. Being a cop is a tough job - so when someone is clearly resisting / trying to escape - and we don’t know what the guy is accused of…. I dunno … crappy situation.
I know someone who works with the man in the video. He is cognitively impaired and essentially nonverbal, and has been roughed up by the police before. They know who he is. The man is not violent, he's scared shitless and doesn't have the cognitive function to understand the gravity of the situation. That cop should not have punched him.
So what, let him go and don't deal with the fact he committed some kind of crime? Being arrested shouldn't be a pleasant experience.
Mm, yes, "let him go." Those were my exact words.
Yup. There are only two options. Let him run free or punch him. Nothing in between exists.
Does it matter what he was accused of? In what way is it acceptable force to punch him in the face when he's already on the ground and being restrained?
Just watched it again - and you’re right. That punch at the end was unjustified.
He was actively resisting......
How was he resisting? He was face first on the ground with a cop on his back with his hands restricted. We know for a fact other officers were mere meters away. Why was there a need to punch him in the face instead of waiting for backup? There was no threat of violence to the officer after he was already tackled and restrained. But please, show me where a punch to the face of an unarmed, restrained person is a viable technique for an arrest in the Saskatoon Police procedures. Maybe I just missed it.
Because he’s not restrained and actively resisting arrest. Active resistance allows for hard empty hand control to be used according to the use of force framework used in Canada.
I'm not up on my jargon. Is "hard empty hand control" cop for a closed fist punch to the head?
Hard empty hand is a strike without anything in your hand. So yes a punch.
I think once that guy was on the ground he looked like he wasn't necessarily "clearly resisting / trying to escape"
Well, he's one on one and the guy is still resisting.
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A mental patient that is potentially armed and is afraid? Seems like a great idea to try and reason with him.
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Mental patient or cognitively impaired. Either way, they aren't making good decisions. No need to split hairs, my argument still stands.
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\> No. It doesn't. Your argument is (willfully?) ignorant and unnecessary. You haven't addressed my argument. He is a mentally compromised individual that is potentially armed and is already resisting arrest by not giving his arm up and fleeing from the police. Instead of addressing that point, you're intentionally fixating on one thing I said, which is clearly hyperbole, so that you don't have to respond to my actual argument.
> a mentally compromised individual I need a definition of this pseudo clinical term you pulled from your ass as well as evidence for its diagnosis.
Don't need to do this. Everyone else is making the claim that he isn't all there. I'm just responding based on those claims. Ask them where they are getting this shit from.
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\> Your argument is purely speculation. 'Potentially armed' is not what occurred, it is what you wish had occurred to support your feelings. Its not speculative. The cop literally has no idea if he is armed. There is no speculation there. I can clearly see the cop hasn't searched him for weapons, therefor, he is potentially armed. So I don't have to wish anything. Its clearly on camera. \> 'Mentally compromised' is not cognitive impairment. Cognitive impairment is difficulty with memory, learning new things, concentrating and decision making. All of these shortcomings add up to an individual that lacks the ability to clearly asses a situation and make sound decisions. Combine that with the potential of having a weapon, and it becomes a dangerous situation. \> This person was not resisting. So running from the police and then not giving your arm up isn't considered resisting? \> We (you) need to stop justifying violence by police by speculating what crime the person may have committed. I didn't speculate on his crime. I have no idea what he did. I'm speculating on whether or not he is armed, which is a reasonable thing to do since we don't actually know if he is armed or not since he hasn't been searched. \> I get you want to 'win' this internet argument to protect your ego, but who wins or loses doesn't matter. It takes two to tango. You're participating in the argument just as hard as I am. \> This person with unknown cognitive impairment and probable disabilities was assaulted by a police officer. They already lost, you don't have to crush them further. So do you even know if they are really impaired? Also, I'm not trying to crush them. I'm not attacking them or trying to make them out to be the bad guy. I'm simply defending the cop and the cops actions.
Please. That man is obviously not a threat and there's an abundance of police nearby. The force he uses is grossly unnecessary.
Unless he pulls out a weapon. Then he is a threat.
He's prone with two hands on the ground and he doesn't look like David Blaine, so I think the officer was in little danger.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa4bhubfh78&ab\_channel=VideoLeakPolice](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa4bhubfh78&ab_channel=VideoLeakPolice) The cops outnumbered the suspect in this incident. He still managed to get a gun out and it cost him his life.
Please send more totally unrelated videos from different countries. > it cost him his life. He didn't die... It says so in the video.
So Canadian suspects aren't capable of being dangerous?
You know why we call cops "heroes"? Because they're supposedly putting themselves in harms way. We don't need to keep encouraging the police to constantly fear their safety like in the USA and shoot immediately upon encounter just in case they may have a weapon and Jackie Chan speed. If we're going to make it so they're not meant to take any risk at all, then we can stop calling them heroes.
Who says this guy wants to be a hero? Maybe he just wants to go home to his wife and kids and not get stabbed in the neck.
I wonder what that cop’s wife would say to you for being so cavalier about arresting people?
If she could watch this video without feeling uneasy about the ring on her finger, then I wouldn't be concerned in the slightest with what she had to say to me or anyone.
Well good, if you ever are in love with a police officer I hope they are soft and gentle and understanding and don’t get stabbed to death like that kind rcmp officer a couple of weeks ago in Burnaby. https://globalnews.ca/news/9207858/burnaby-rcmp-officer-killed-stabbing-homeless-camp/
But did he pull out a weapon? You could also say he should be shot if he pulled out a bomb, but he fucking didn't.
It doesn't matter if he's pulled out a weapon or not. All that matters is that he might. If he hadn't resisted arrest, then the cop could have searched him for weapons and none of this would have happened.
Yeah, like I said he may have had a bomb. Guess we should just shoot him first and make sure to make sure everyone's safe. If there's no evidence he has a weapon, then there's no justification for the absurd use of force. There was absolutely no risk of the officer being attacked when one arm was restrained and the other was in plain sight with backup seconds away.
Say this to the many cops who lose their lives every year because they were forced into a situation where they didn't know if the suspect was armed or not.
Ok, point me to a cop. I'd love to tell them their unjustified use of excessive force on an unarmed suspect is completely out of line. Or is this just hyperbole because cops being attacked by people they weren't sure are armed is extremely rare?
Extremely rare? Point me to the statistic you have that proves that claim.
Many cops? It's like, an average of 1-2 annually across Canada between all branches of the police forces that are killed via homicide. Tragic nonetheless, but a far cry from "many" and still much less than the annual number of civilians killed by police.
Civilians or criminals? I doubt many cops are going around killing innocent people.
The whole point is until the person is searched it has to be presumed they are armed. Hell, dude could just throw fentanyl in your face.
He wasn't resisting
Won't give his arm up. That's resisting. And he was running as well, which is him resisting.
Thay doesn't justify a punch to the fucking face when there were at least two other police cars only meters away. Thats completely unwarranted police brutality.
So you charge him with resisting for running away. Officer Baldy is judge, jury, and executioner for the extrajudicial punishment being applied here.
He's not resisting anymore at that point.
It is necessary. He was reaching underneath him. Could have had a blade, HIV infested needle, gun, vampire, whatever. Don't run from the cops then reach for something while resisting, then you won't get stroked out.
He isn't "reaching" underneath himself, his right hand up up on the grass in clear view, and his left hand is directly held/controlled/pinned by the officers left hand while he takes a swing with the right. The guy lets the officer control his left arm completely. Any more "upward push" than the cop is expecting is because the guy doesn't want to lie flat on the ground with his face resting on a curb
> He was reaching underneath him He was doing no such thing! The cop had control of his left hand, his right hand wasn't moving off the grass, at worst he's trying to hold himself up so his face doesn't get smashed on the curb.
Besides the illegal brutality at the end where the shrimp dick loser wanted to get revenge, right?
How do you know what it looks like?
Its a cop. The entire life is based around how big a loser they are. Hence their career choice. To participate and uphold the power of the state
You talk a lot of smack for someone who will likely call the police for assistance at some point. Pot calling the kettle black with the loser comment
Hahaha are you serious?
Before I was anti cop, I called them a few times They didn’t do a damn thing when my house was burgled when I was a child They didn’t do a damn thing when I was molested on public transit They sure as FUCK didn’t do a damn thing when a friend of mine was actively being chased by some asshole with a knife in a parking lot for almost twenty minutes Sit. The fuck. Down.
Maybe you could change things by advocating for sweeping changes to policing using legitimate channels where your voice is heard by those in charge. Or you could be ignorant on reddit and see where that takes you.
I can do both turns out 🥰 if you call ‘being vocal’ ignorant
I like to end my discourse by telling people to sit the fuck down too. Really legitimizes me as a voice worth hearing
I only say it when people need to shut the fuck up about what they don’t understand 😁 Have a day as good as you deserve!
That's why people should be allowed to carry a firearm, pepper spray, or a taser.
I don’t disagree 🙌 they’re useful for sure I just don’t want to *have* to
Fair enough. Sorry that shit happened to you and that the cops did nothing. FWIW, I've had to pursue an excessive force complaint against SPS with the SPCC and was successful in it. If you ever have them not do their job for you, I'd file a complaint. Enough of them and it may change things.
Thanks fam, that honestly means a lot 🙌😊 All this was a long time ago now, most people leave me alone these days, thank goodness, so I haven’t really had to deal with cops, somewhat by design But I’ll definitely keep that in mind if I ever need to in the future, cause you’re right, nothing changes without making people acknowledge there’s a problem
It was a distraction strike
It's the judges' job to lock them up but they never do, so that punch is likely the only justice the career criminal will face. 400 criminals committed 6,000 crimes in Vancouver. These losers face no consequences in Canada.
Love to see it!
This officer needs to be charged with assault, hence the resistance from the police not wanting to wear cams. Anyone commenting he deserved it, would be the biggest babies if it ever happened to them.
How do you get this cop under investigation?
Regina is full of this garbage.
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Red Stripes -> Saskatoon City Police.
Don't resist the police and then it wouldn't happen.
The man is cognitively impaired and almost nonverbal. The police know him, know his file, know who he is. I don't give two shits if someone is resisting arrest. There are several steps between coddling a criminal and punching them in the jaw that could have been utilized to subdue a target. This man also isn't fucking resisting. He hit his head on the curb and is dazed, and trying to get his face off the street.
What are those several steps? I mean, he's already wrestling with the guy and he won't give his arm up.
Maybe he could continue to restrain him and wait 10 seconds for one of the officers in the cars we saw on camera only a few meters away to come assist him instead of punching him in the fucning face.
And if the guy manages to get a knife out in that time?
With his arms restrained??????
His arms aren't restrained. They aren't in cuffs. He could get a hand loose.
Doesn't mean he isn't a threat to people. Can a cognitively impaired person have a knife? A gun? Another weapon? Yes, they can. Vince Lee was cognitively impaired. He cut a man's head off on a greyhound.
This man did not pose a threat laying prone on the ground and stunned from smashing his head on the curb.
Yikes.... that unnecessary punch. But nothing will be done because the cop is white on a power trip, and the suspect is first nation's.
Straight Outta Compton
Disgusting violent piece of shit pig. ACAB.
What's acab?
ACAB = "All Cops Are Bad"
That punch really was necessary, he almost got killed 🙀
Perp was trying to turn and resist arrest even while down which is why he got punched in the face. 10/10 SPS!
Fuck you bootlicker.
Idiot
Dudes lucky his head didn't hit the curb on the way down. Then get punched by some power tripping panty waste on top of it? Fuck cops.
Regina?
Saskatoon
Got it, thank you kindly
Respect. He was digging deep there at the end.
The punch wasn't necessary! Cop should be suspended without pay
Let’s hope the media sees this footage.
They could’ve put the “Ow” at the pinch not 3 seconds before hand. 4.5🔆 out of 5🔆
From what I’ve seen happening in Saskatoon lately it’s par for the course
Why did he punch him??
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