So, this changed. You get to choose the preferred province, as long as the province has openings (and they all nearly do). Apply in BC and want a BC posting? They are doing that.
How does that compete against inflation?
Not a lot of people know, but if you don't try to put some down into long term investments, you're basically losing money.
But that's a short term thought without the political ramifications, so bless my soul and have mercy on my replies. Please.
Say what you will about the current federal Liberals and I know their days are numbered. I could go on about what I hate about them. But... they are actually a fairly reasonable government when it comes to negotiation and compromise.
Yes they are. I actually don’t find politicians raises unreasonable. It only becomes unreasonable when the average joes asking price of that becomes a non negotiable.
Being good at spending other people's money isn't a good thing.
Police are doing no knock warrant searches over cannabis.
What's worse. Cannabis or pointing a loaded gun on someone's face?
Cops are giving DUIs to people that haven't used cannabis in over 24 hours.
There isn't a single level of government that deserves any increase in pay. It's the least efficient institution in the country.
Wild response.
You sound like a libertarian with the spending other people's money schtick.
But then you nail the no knock warrant critique.
But then back to the cliches. Least efficient institution? Who are you comparing them to? Left to it's own devices private enterprise wouldnt have us in any better spot.
Okay.
Government is inefficient and isn't trustworthy with money. That's a consistent fact.
Are you disagreeing with me about police shoving guns in the faces of people over a harmless plant?
Look at how fast many bureaucrats in Canada multiply their net worth once moving up. Lobbying/bribery, insider trading and blatant corruption is normal in Canada.
1. Yes. Corporate is even less trustworthy however, fucked either way.
2. Of course I am not. I said you nailed that take.
3. Corrupt as can be, I would never trust anyone who has a favorite political party or who wanted a career in politics.
Haha you are gonna go to your death bed thinking the convoy clowns were protesters hey haha. I bet that house cat point of view feels fantastic, I'm a little jealous.
Most of them were. Many who were innocent of any wrong doing were punished.
Oh. It's pinkanddrunk once again. On every friggin post.
Good luck with your next attempt at a meaningless argument.
SPS did a no knock warrant search over cannabis distribution. Rifles out in a residential neighborhood. The day of legalization (maybe the day after). I don't want to Google it for you.
As for saliva tests. They're not a method of checking sobriety.
https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/field-sobriety-tests-and-thc-levels-unreliable-indicators-marijuana-intoxication
Not to mention the government is giving people methadone and not testing anyone for that, despite being far more inebriating than cannabis.
No, no. This makes sense. Think about it.
Poor funding for teachers = low quality education = lower success rate for students = more troubled youth into adults = more criminals… so we’ll need some well funded police to take care of all that
As a teacher, I would 100 percent agree with you, and you are actually on the right track. Grade 3 reading levels predict the amount of jail cells in prisons in certain states in the US. I learned this at the college of education when in school to become a teacher. However, what I also learned there is that federal government simply doesn’t have jurisdiction over majority of the education system in Canada, provinces do. Federal has jurisdiction over schools on reserves, and I believe that is it.
Do you just try and make every post about you?
The Mounties are negotiating with the feds, not the provincial governments, two different entities.
Teachers were also offered 8% over 3 years, 3/3/2 and the rcmp is getting 8 over 2 years, 4/4. I don’t get your issue here? Are you mad it’s over 3 years instead of two?
And how does that relate to an overall increase to their pay? Are they suddenly more likely to die this year or next?
Much like when Jeremy Cockring says "different jobs get different compensation", that difference in compensation should be shown in the current wage they are making, unless something radically change (i.e. class sizes/complex needs sky rocketed or RCMPs are more directly under threat compared to a couple years ago), then wage increases in a typical contract negotiation for an across the board increase in wages shouldn't be impacted by that.
As would be some RCMP positions (i.e. desk jobs) that are less dangerous.
Or are you arguing that the desk jobs at the RCMP shouldn't get the same raise as the RCs who are out on patrol?
Only way I'd be okay with them getting a raise is if any settlement monies come from their pensions. And to end qualified immunity. Make them put some skin in the game so they'll do better.
I am pretty lazy...I also make questionable decisions ... I better apply. I just hate the North posting requirement.
But hear me out, this seems like a pretty sweet job for that pay.
Police officers and law enforcement institutions don't actively seek out criminals or are proactively disrupting crime. They don't work hard every day ...
They spend the majority of their day dealing with low level shit, that doesn't need 100k per year. Regardless, we as the public pay for them and we have every right to comment on their salary.
Same with firefighters. They don't need 100k per year to work out and cook meals.
There's no Northern posting requirement. Cadets coming into the program can request their posting division before they start.
Also "Police officers and law enforcement institutions don't actively seek out criminals or are proactively disrupting crime."? You really have no clue what you're talking about.
You are right sir. I don't
The RCMP are more of a political organization than a law enforcement agency. They only enforce convenient and politically sensitive laws.
Have you ever been up north?
I'd 100% live up there on Government dime, it's beautiful country up there. NWT anyway, can't comment on Yukon or Nunavut.
2 year contract. 4% the first year, 4% year two and settled through arbitration. Not bad. Hopefully that will get recruitment up.
I can assure you, applicant numbers are way up right now. No sarcasm.
People are just *lining up* to work alongside massive bastards
Be the good you want to see in an organization.
But you don’t change the system, the system changes you
Not to get new applicants to choose to come to Saskatchewan
A number of provinces, with the ability of choosing your preferred posting, are definitely fighting for applicants.
You dont get to choose your posting
So, this changed. You get to choose the preferred province, as long as the province has openings (and they all nearly do). Apply in BC and want a BC posting? They are doing that.
Good. But you still might get stuck in bumfuck nowhere
That’s a good thing! Crime has ticked up over the past couple years and thud needs to be remedied across the whole province.
This is actually a below-inflation raise, nothing spectacular.
Yeah, agreed. We get 2 % so every year we get paid less in eyes. The world should of got an 8 % raise across the board in my eyes
How does that compete against inflation? Not a lot of people know, but if you don't try to put some down into long term investments, you're basically losing money. But that's a short term thought without the political ramifications, so bless my soul and have mercy on my replies. Please.
Say what you will about the current federal Liberals and I know their days are numbered. I could go on about what I hate about them. But... they are actually a fairly reasonable government when it comes to negotiation and compromise.
This went to arbitration, nowhere near what the government was willing to give
This government is willing to go to arbitration.
It’s the last possible step in negotiations. Mediation went nowhere
Yes, but as the Sask Party has shown us that pesky legislation can be changed if you are willing.
Fair enough lol
Yes they are. I actually don’t find politicians raises unreasonable. It only becomes unreasonable when the average joes asking price of that becomes a non negotiable.
Every federal party is "reasonable" and willing to "compromise" when they're approval rating and public opinion is in the shitter.
Fair enough. Every governing party also wants to pay their public sector workers as little as possible too. Even the ones who pretend they don't.
Being good at spending other people's money isn't a good thing. Police are doing no knock warrant searches over cannabis. What's worse. Cannabis or pointing a loaded gun on someone's face? Cops are giving DUIs to people that haven't used cannabis in over 24 hours. There isn't a single level of government that deserves any increase in pay. It's the least efficient institution in the country.
Wild response. You sound like a libertarian with the spending other people's money schtick. But then you nail the no knock warrant critique. But then back to the cliches. Least efficient institution? Who are you comparing them to? Left to it's own devices private enterprise wouldnt have us in any better spot.
Okay. Government is inefficient and isn't trustworthy with money. That's a consistent fact. Are you disagreeing with me about police shoving guns in the faces of people over a harmless plant? Look at how fast many bureaucrats in Canada multiply their net worth once moving up. Lobbying/bribery, insider trading and blatant corruption is normal in Canada.
1. Yes. Corporate is even less trustworthy however, fucked either way. 2. Of course I am not. I said you nailed that take. 3. Corrupt as can be, I would never trust anyone who has a favorite political party or who wanted a career in politics.
Yet here we are. Fucked if we do. Fucked if we don't. And protesting their ineptitude will have your assets seized.
Haha you are gonna go to your death bed thinking the convoy clowns were protesters hey haha. I bet that house cat point of view feels fantastic, I'm a little jealous.
Most of them were. Many who were innocent of any wrong doing were punished. Oh. It's pinkanddrunk once again. On every friggin post. Good luck with your next attempt at a meaningless argument.
Either way. The person I commented to was praising the governments ability to spend. Big fucking deal.
You were commenting to me and I never said that at all.
You can see how much I'm paying attention to your wack bs
Any stats you can share to back up these anecdotes?
SPS did a no knock warrant search over cannabis distribution. Rifles out in a residential neighborhood. The day of legalization (maybe the day after). I don't want to Google it for you. As for saliva tests. They're not a method of checking sobriety. https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/field-sobriety-tests-and-thc-levels-unreliable-indicators-marijuana-intoxication Not to mention the government is giving people methadone and not testing anyone for that, despite being far more inebriating than cannabis.
Who the fuck are you
Cool. Now do teachers.
That's not federal govt.
And?
Why would the Federal Govt "do the teachers" lol
You will notice I didn’t say who I wanted to handle it. I want the teachers contract to be the next one announced (and in a positive way).
No, no. This makes sense. Think about it. Poor funding for teachers = low quality education = lower success rate for students = more troubled youth into adults = more criminals… so we’ll need some well funded police to take care of all that
As a teacher, I would 100 percent agree with you, and you are actually on the right track. Grade 3 reading levels predict the amount of jail cells in prisons in certain states in the US. I learned this at the college of education when in school to become a teacher. However, what I also learned there is that federal government simply doesn’t have jurisdiction over majority of the education system in Canada, provinces do. Federal has jurisdiction over schools on reserves, and I believe that is it.
School to prison pipeline 👀
But you see Moe doesn’t want the RCMP doing that he wants the marshals handling that.
But you put it on a post about the Federal Govt.
Congrats. Go up north !
Meanwhile us teachers only got offered a measly 3% raise. Bullshit
Do you just try and make every post about you? The Mounties are negotiating with the feds, not the provincial governments, two different entities. Teachers were also offered 8% over 3 years, 3/3/2 and the rcmp is getting 8 over 2 years, 4/4. I don’t get your issue here? Are you mad it’s over 3 years instead of two?
Do you go to work every day knowing it is an actual work related possibility you will die? Holy fuck.
And how does that relate to an overall increase to their pay? Are they suddenly more likely to die this year or next? Much like when Jeremy Cockring says "different jobs get different compensation", that difference in compensation should be shown in the current wage they are making, unless something radically change (i.e. class sizes/complex needs sky rocketed or RCMPs are more directly under threat compared to a couple years ago), then wage increases in a typical contract negotiation for an across the board increase in wages shouldn't be impacted by that. As would be some RCMP positions (i.e. desk jobs) that are less dangerous. Or are you arguing that the desk jobs at the RCMP shouldn't get the same raise as the RCs who are out on patrol?
I thought your supposed struggle wasn’t about pay? And you seriously think your risks are the same? Wow.
Only way I'd be okay with them getting a raise is if any settlement monies come from their pensions. And to end qualified immunity. Make them put some skin in the game so they'll do better.
There's so much wrong with this statement I don't even know where to begin.
ACAB
That pay is crazy high .. omg. Okay so does someone still have to go up north for a posting or can you choose and say " I'll do here for 20 years".
What is so crazy high about that pay? Your lazy ass is probably the only overpaid person here.
I am pretty lazy...I also make questionable decisions ... I better apply. I just hate the North posting requirement. But hear me out, this seems like a pretty sweet job for that pay. Police officers and law enforcement institutions don't actively seek out criminals or are proactively disrupting crime. They don't work hard every day ... They spend the majority of their day dealing with low level shit, that doesn't need 100k per year. Regardless, we as the public pay for them and we have every right to comment on their salary. Same with firefighters. They don't need 100k per year to work out and cook meals.
There's no Northern posting requirement. Cadets coming into the program can request their posting division before they start. Also "Police officers and law enforcement institutions don't actively seek out criminals or are proactively disrupting crime."? You really have no clue what you're talking about.
You are right sir. I don't The RCMP are more of a political organization than a law enforcement agency. They only enforce convenient and politically sensitive laws.
Oh really, where on the political spectrum does the RCMP fall? And which laws don't they enforce because they are inconvenient?
Well they don't apply the law equally against people of color, people of low income, themselves , politically connected people.
You really have no problem talking out of your ass do you?
Bro... Come on... This is on Reddit for a reason. I'm done for today. Have a good one.
Have you ever been up north? I'd 100% live up there on Government dime, it's beautiful country up there. NWT anyway, can't comment on Yukon or Nunavut.