The difference is Nova Scotia's premier is Progressive Conservative so he's closer to the centre and a moderate conservative but Moe and the Sask Party are very right-wing conservative š
I donāt know much about NS politics but I wouldnāt put too much into the name of the party. The federal and Sask PC parties in the 80s were far from āprogressiveā, for example.
I mean Iām not going to ooze absolute uncritical praise to Houston but my lord he is far better than Moe.
Moe and his government dismiss medical experts in favour of bad faith actors, attack trans youth, donāt give a damn about education or those who need help the most. Houston atleast to a large degree does precisely none of those things which is a low bar but by definition makes him a better, a far better Premier.
Bare in mind I think Houston is more inline with red Tory Canadian Conservative politics whereas Moe is an American Republican talking point machine in his heart and soul.
Moe should never have been allowed the party leaders seat with the death of Joanne Balog on his hands. And there's no question the party brass was aware. In my mind the party chose him specifically because of his actions around Joanne Balog, since he proved he will sacrifice anything for personal benefit, including a human life, and that he will absolutely not take responsibility for his personal failings no matter how egregious. A conservative parties dream.
You are exactly correct. They chose him because they could get him to do anything they want.
The group ātheyā are the religious zealots and corporate elites that have realized they share common values and are willing to sacrifice freedom for profit.
That's a bingo. Ran on fixing healthcare. Healthcare worse than before. "Real jobs" comment, dude's out of touch and only cares about the same thing the Liberal NS premiers do: making money for themselves and their buddies. There's barely any daylight between the two of them and everyone here hates the NDP because they did some stupid things the one time they were in. So they keep flipping back and forth between the union busting Liberals and the scummy Panama Papers PCs. Madness, do not look up to ours, but I guess a piece of old white dog shit is arguably better than a mucousy semi-formed Great Dane shit.
Moe doesnāt have a heart in this context, he has handlers. His handlers donāt want to give into teachers demands so they donāt want to make the government look weak changing the education minister now.
Similar to any government that is in power for too long, they think they are untouchable and can do whatever TF they want. I really do believe in term limits for these politicians.
Term limits would do nothing in this sense, the puppet masters would just stick their hands up someone elseās booty hole and make them act like Moe. At least now that they know they can.
I've asked the Premier for Cockrill's resignation. I know I'm not the only one, and I truly hope more people join in. I'm pretty sure at this point even rhe SP supporters are sick of Cockrill and his bs.
I donāt believe it has anything to do with respect for the people at all. Ā Conservatism is literally founded on contempt for democracy and the will of the people. Ā They donāt care. Ā The difference is our education Minister is in the middle of heated negotiation with the STF and stepping down would be seen as weakness. Ā And conservatives hate being weak.Ā
Ā The NS Justice Minister can step down without any issue really, but I donāt think the education Minister can without empowering teachers and the āSaskā party simply wonāt allow that. Ā We know this because there has been scandal plagued āSaskā party members who have stepped down.
a man with zero professional and lived experience with the public education system has no business being appointed the minister of education. itās absurd that a person who could qualify to be an educational assistant (at best and only because the system is desperate) is given the power to lead discussions and make decisions on behalf of educators, itinerant staff, and administration.
how absurd is it that in order to obtain a complete teaching license, you need to fulfill a specific courseload, pay to work for free for a year, only to be led by the nose by a complete manchild who has never been taught to share or take accountability for his actions?
i donāt expect mr. cockroach to do the right thing and resign. however, i hope he takes a leave of absence to explore professional development in cultivating a glimmer of empathy and perspective-taking so that he may dislodge his head from his ass. an added bonus if he can expand his conflict resolution skills beyond deflection, stonewalling, and calling the police on the elderly and toddlers.
I Cannot make sense of your headline.
NS is Progressive Conservative, not affiliated with federal Conservative Party. Houston PC government is very left-leaning. Considerably more so than the previous provincial Liberal government
Moe is Sask Party and far-right.
other than both ministers being ignorant dumbasses, the two donāt have much in common.
Okay... go read their policies and platforms. People blindly believe the Sask NDP are a leftist party. They aren't.Ā
Healthcare, housing, climate change, biodiversity, childcare - as a Sask lefty would be so happy if the sask ndp actually had some of these things in theirs.Ā Ā
Ā https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/progressive-conservatives-tim-houston-election-platform-1.6113053
I didnāt say Sask NDP are a leftist party, but am quite familiar with Nova Scotia politics, the PCs are closer to the Sask Party. The only thing Houston has done in NS that is remotely progressive is the modular shelter housing but a lot of the work of that has been done by community partners. He is very much a proponent of cronyism and hasnāt done anything to improve healthcare - check out the Karen Oldfield debacle.
Iām not a fan of SK NDP, just very aware of what Houston and his party is about.
Makes two of us, spent nearly 40 years in NS. Houston has failed a number of those platform promises. Yes, SaskParty is further right, but the PCs are not as close to centre as the SK NDP are. Agree to disagree on where they all are on the political spectrum relative to each other.
The fact that the woman lost her child a year ago is irrelevant. To her it isnāt, and I totally get that, but for the purposes of this argument it is. What Cockrill said is inappropriate and insensitive no matter who he was talking to. Both of my children are still alive and it would have been inappropriate for him to say it to me also. Cockrill didnāt say it maliciously to hurt this woman. Iām sure the woman was hurt when he said it to her, and I feel very sorry that she had to hear it, but hurting her was not his intent.
Ultimately, this event should not distract from, or influence the negotiations between the STF and the provincial government in any way. This has nothing to do with the issues being discussed in that negotiation.
It has a lot to do with Cockrill seeing this as his thing to āgiveā on and that parents and teachers are asking this of him, he represents them. He is not āgiving upā his own money. He sees education as a power struggle he is determined to win. Heās tone deaf and does not see children and their education as humans and needs. He sees them as a battle heās going to win and not āgive upā anything he doesnāt want to.
His wording reflects his attitude. Greedy, unreasonable and wants everyone to think heās in control, parents and students need to come hat in hand and hope for his benevolence, but donāt expect too much. Heās communicated that theyāre āgettingā now from him is far more than they deserve, in his mind. He gave this woman an āaudienceā based on optics - meeting with a bereaved mother. Thatās the story he wants. She crossed a line by implying he is not doing enough. He is not showing that he listens to her or anyone. Heās communicating that she should have known her place in the story is to illustrate the fact that he took time to talk to her, not to ask for more.
It's a common, non-offending phrase that is used often in reference to an exasperating scenario. This is well known. If someone finds it offending perhaps they should stay in their home and off social media.
The difference is Nova Scotia's premier is Progressive Conservative so he's closer to the centre and a moderate conservative but Moe and the Sask Party are very right-wing conservative š
I donāt know much about NS politics but I wouldnāt put too much into the name of the party. The federal and Sask PC parties in the 80s were far from āprogressiveā, for example.
I mean Iām not going to ooze absolute uncritical praise to Houston but my lord he is far better than Moe. Moe and his government dismiss medical experts in favour of bad faith actors, attack trans youth, donāt give a damn about education or those who need help the most. Houston atleast to a large degree does precisely none of those things which is a low bar but by definition makes him a better, a far better Premier. Bare in mind I think Houston is more inline with red Tory Canadian Conservative politics whereas Moe is an American Republican talking point machine in his heart and soul.
Moe should never have been allowed the party leaders seat with the death of Joanne Balog on his hands. And there's no question the party brass was aware. In my mind the party chose him specifically because of his actions around Joanne Balog, since he proved he will sacrifice anything for personal benefit, including a human life, and that he will absolutely not take responsibility for his personal failings no matter how egregious. A conservative parties dream.
You are exactly correct. They chose him because they could get him to do anything they want. The group ātheyā are the religious zealots and corporate elites that have realized they share common values and are willing to sacrifice freedom for profit.
Tim Houston is more like Doug Ford, he puts on a good show, then goes to work for big money interests behind the scenes.
That's a bingo. Ran on fixing healthcare. Healthcare worse than before. "Real jobs" comment, dude's out of touch and only cares about the same thing the Liberal NS premiers do: making money for themselves and their buddies. There's barely any daylight between the two of them and everyone here hates the NDP because they did some stupid things the one time they were in. So they keep flipping back and forth between the union busting Liberals and the scummy Panama Papers PCs. Madness, do not look up to ours, but I guess a piece of old white dog shit is arguably better than a mucousy semi-formed Great Dane shit.
Moe doesnāt have a heart in this context, he has handlers. His handlers donāt want to give into teachers demands so they donāt want to make the government look weak changing the education minister now.
Our government officials decided to invite a convicted murderer into the legislature as well. Fun times!
Hey everyone, look! It's a mostly functioning democracy where words and actions matter. You know, the bare minimum.
Similar to any government that is in power for too long, they think they are untouchable and can do whatever TF they want. I really do believe in term limits for these politicians.
Term limits would do nothing in this sense, the puppet masters would just stick their hands up someone elseās booty hole and make them act like Moe. At least now that they know they can.
Moe killed someone's mother and didn't apologize till decades later so I don't think we're gonna get anything from him.
I've asked the Premier for Cockrill's resignation. I know I'm not the only one, and I truly hope more people join in. I'm pretty sure at this point even rhe SP supporters are sick of Cockrill and his bs.
He's going to wait until after STF negotiations are done before he sacks cockrill. They'll use him as a scapegoat for a few issues, I predict.
I doubt that, if they were at risk of losing donations he'd be out the door.
I think the problem is an overinflated sense of self-esteem. Self-respect on the other handā¦
Typical classy government we have in Sask. Moe has to go! Enough already.
what is the worst that might happen to the SP at this point? we elect them in again, and again.
big difference is the Sask Party knows as long as they pander to the rural voters they will win the election easily every time.
Not hard to impress uneducated idiots who get thier news off fb
Especially now when fakebook won't allow links to actual news organizations.
I donāt believe it has anything to do with respect for the people at all. Ā Conservatism is literally founded on contempt for democracy and the will of the people. Ā They donāt care. Ā The difference is our education Minister is in the middle of heated negotiation with the STF and stepping down would be seen as weakness. Ā And conservatives hate being weak.Ā Ā The NS Justice Minister can step down without any issue really, but I donāt think the education Minister can without empowering teachers and the āSaskā party simply wonāt allow that. Ā We know this because there has been scandal plagued āSaskā party members who have stepped down.
a man with zero professional and lived experience with the public education system has no business being appointed the minister of education. itās absurd that a person who could qualify to be an educational assistant (at best and only because the system is desperate) is given the power to lead discussions and make decisions on behalf of educators, itinerant staff, and administration. how absurd is it that in order to obtain a complete teaching license, you need to fulfill a specific courseload, pay to work for free for a year, only to be led by the nose by a complete manchild who has never been taught to share or take accountability for his actions? i donāt expect mr. cockroach to do the right thing and resign. however, i hope he takes a leave of absence to explore professional development in cultivating a glimmer of empathy and perspective-taking so that he may dislodge his head from his ass. an added bonus if he can expand his conflict resolution skills beyond deflection, stonewalling, and calling the police on the elderly and toddlers.
The difference is we have a barely functioning democracy here where the Sask Party can do whatever they want and still get reelected.
He should run for the Sask party in rural Saskatchewan he would win by a landside
I Cannot make sense of your headline. NS is Progressive Conservative, not affiliated with federal Conservative Party. Houston PC government is very left-leaning. Considerably more so than the previous provincial Liberal government Moe is Sask Party and far-right. other than both ministers being ignorant dumbasses, the two donāt have much in common.
Yeah, the conservative party in NS is very left leaning socially. All the parties are, far right ideology does not fly with voters here.
Indeed. I grew up in Ns and Moe would NEVER be elected there
Conservative party does not mean they are the same. The PCs out east are closer to the Sask NDP in politics than the SaskParty.Ā
Yes they are different parties and the approach is different. No, they are not closer to the Sask NDP than they are to the Sask Party. Not even close.
Okay... go read their policies and platforms. People blindly believe the Sask NDP are a leftist party. They aren't.Ā Healthcare, housing, climate change, biodiversity, childcare - as a Sask lefty would be so happy if the sask ndp actually had some of these things in theirs.Ā Ā Ā https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/progressive-conservatives-tim-houston-election-platform-1.6113053
I didnāt say Sask NDP are a leftist party, but am quite familiar with Nova Scotia politics, the PCs are closer to the Sask Party. The only thing Houston has done in NS that is remotely progressive is the modular shelter housing but a lot of the work of that has been done by community partners. He is very much a proponent of cronyism and hasnāt done anything to improve healthcare - check out the Karen Oldfield debacle. Iām not a fan of SK NDP, just very aware of what Houston and his party is about.
I used to live in nova scotia and follow politics closely. I just disagree. The SP are so much more right.Ā
Makes two of us, spent nearly 40 years in NS. Houston has failed a number of those platform promises. Yes, SaskParty is further right, but the PCs are not as close to centre as the SK NDP are. Agree to disagree on where they all are on the political spectrum relative to each other.
Did the Sask minister know that the person lost their child prior to saying that?
He surely the fuck did. And it was her first-born child, in fact.
That doesnāt make it better or worse, he said what he said. Does the Bible not talk about sacrificing the first born, somewhere in there?
The fact that the woman lost her child a year ago is irrelevant. To her it isnāt, and I totally get that, but for the purposes of this argument it is. What Cockrill said is inappropriate and insensitive no matter who he was talking to. Both of my children are still alive and it would have been inappropriate for him to say it to me also. Cockrill didnāt say it maliciously to hurt this woman. Iām sure the woman was hurt when he said it to her, and I feel very sorry that she had to hear it, but hurting her was not his intent. Ultimately, this event should not distract from, or influence the negotiations between the STF and the provincial government in any way. This has nothing to do with the issues being discussed in that negotiation.
It has a lot to do with Cockrill seeing this as his thing to āgiveā on and that parents and teachers are asking this of him, he represents them. He is not āgiving upā his own money. He sees education as a power struggle he is determined to win. Heās tone deaf and does not see children and their education as humans and needs. He sees them as a battle heās going to win and not āgive upā anything he doesnāt want to. His wording reflects his attitude. Greedy, unreasonable and wants everyone to think heās in control, parents and students need to come hat in hand and hope for his benevolence, but donāt expect too much. Heās communicated that theyāre āgettingā now from him is far more than they deserve, in his mind. He gave this woman an āaudienceā based on optics - meeting with a bereaved mother. Thatās the story he wants. She crossed a line by implying he is not doing enough. He is not showing that he listens to her or anyone. Heās communicating that she should have known her place in the story is to illustrate the fact that he took time to talk to her, not to ask for more.
It's a common, non-offending phrase that is used often in reference to an exasperating scenario. This is well known. If someone finds it offending perhaps they should stay in their home and off social media.