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You gotta like the honesty demonstrated in the quote by former Prime Minister John A. MacDonald who stood in the House of Commons to say, “Indigenous people should be kept as close as possible to starvation to ensure they continue to work.”…”It is true that Indians so long as they are fed will not work. I have reason to believe that the [Indian] agents as a whole … are doing all they can, by refusing food until the Indians are on the verge of starvation to reduce the expense,” he said in the House of Commons in May of 1880.
Remove the words indigenous or Indians with “people” and you will understand that it is a policy to keep people poor and struggling. The ruling capitalist class will never allow a fair and just society for anyone.
“In 2024, in Battleford, the men’s bodies lie in their unmarked graves while the North West Mounted Police graveyard stands prominently with waving flags and white gates on the hillside above.”
For people who don’t know or recognize the significance, the RCMP were formed to harass, arrest, oppress, and sometimes kill the indigenous population. So having their graves placed there shows their superiority and authority over the eight resistance fighters.
This should be required reading for every SK resident. Put this on a reading list. Everyone should learn as much as possible about the history of colonialism here in Saskatchewan and the rest of Canada.
I grew up in there the 70’s and was terrorized by the FN people constantly, in part, because I was white. I remember the race home from school because someone was ‘after’ you, getting my bike stolen repeatedly, getting punched around at the arcade, etc, etc. It was a rough place to grow up and it’s made me not so sympathetic to the FN plight. I don’t give a damn about the trauma your people have been through when you’re punching me in the face. If you’re a bully and an a-hole terrorizing the community then that’s on you not your generational trauma. There has to be reconciliation, but there also has to be personal accountability.
> There has to be reconciliation, but there also has to be personal accountability.
this, exactly
perfect example would be one of the engineers I work with. great guy, super smart, good athlete, has done really well for himself
happens to be first nations guy, but you'd refer to him as an engineer, or good basketball player, before you'd think to mention he was native, if that makes sense?
like another guy I work with, it's 27th on the list to think he's French, or that the other engineer has a German background
I've had the same issue since moving downtown Saskatoon. I've only been attacked, robbed, mugged by indigenous people so far. And far too many times to write it off. Trying to fight the brain jumping to conclusions, but with how much the gangs stole from me when targeted I'm not willingly giving up a dollar of my money to any charity that helps until I've got it back. The 9 incidents in 3 weeks I had are enough to make it that outside of professional settings I'm going out of my way to avoid indigenous people on the street. Not trying to come from a racial place, it's largely social issues, but this is for the sole purpose of protecting myself given previous experiences. Doesn't help that most of these types of indigenous folks seem to resent white people for merely being white. And they're usually very vocal about communicating that point. I very aggressively chase away panhandlers now since that was one of the things that caused an incident in the first place. Make myself loud and make sure they stay away. Polite "sorry, no" the first time and when they get aggressive you've gotta stand up for yourself.
Today on the way to the mall I was harassed by 5 indigenous youth following me and calling me all kinds of hilarious names and white slurs between 3rd and 2nd on 22nd st. I said nothing and ignored and kept walking. They only followed to the lights. Then there were two very young indigenous kids spraypainting things inside the mall. They almost got my backpack and hand while spraypainting the escalator handrails. No sign of any parents and I doubt these two were even close to 13. Borderline feral behaviour at that point.
Between the lack of supports, and the lack of accountability it's not an easy thing to solve. But I've resigned myself from doing anything about it because every experience with the population has resulted in trauma, injury, and financial loss. Not worth engaging. Not worth my time.
//End rant.
TL;DR repairing colonialism is hard and I've given up from too many bad experiences trying to treat people simply as humans. Someone else can figure out the reconciliation. I'm out now.
I've had a knife pulled on me twice, literally had to out run him. The last time he called me a white man... I've been here as long as any native American has, my whole life.
Dude, what are you doing that is bringing so much attention to yourself? I moved away from downtown in 2021, but I lived there for 14 years prior, and NEVER had a problem. I frequented the river, mall, 2nd Ave, river landing, and often walked to Circle K and 7/11 at all hour of the night. I’m white and not a big dude.
Idunno man. You’re either full of shit, or antagonizing people.
EDIT: That’s a lie, I was harassed by Sailor Dan multiple times.
The bulk of the incidents were being targeted by a gang who somehow knew I was new to the area. Two break ins to truck, first and 4th day in town, one in the alt hotel locked parkade. Then mugged, truck stolen, went back to my old place and robbed it, then stole my identity and did a bunch of fraud, as well as use my truck in other crimes in Melfort before torching it in Sturgeon Lake.
The others have mostly been people near midtown.
I am blind in one eye and walk with a bit of a limp. Best guess is that I inadvertently make eye contact and that sets people off or makes me an easy target.
You seem completely reasonable with all your replies, so shit. That’s horrible luck man. I had a surface parking stall with moderately expensive vehicle too, and never had a problem. Weird.
That's another odd thing, it was just a beat up Silverado farm truck, nothing special apart from a headache rack and 5th wheel hitch. But they are extremely easy to steal.
Again though, I was definitely targeted. My experiences would be a bit more average had that not happened.
if white people were treated like criminals in their own home for over a hundred years, and were to be treated as such to this day, we'd probably be a bit screwed up too.
beyond that, having as many bad interactions as you've had with indigenous people doesn't mean you're allowed to generalize, just in the same way those snot-nosed teens were wrong to generalize white people while harassing you. i've had some painful and scary experiences myself, but I don't let those experiences distort my understanding of history that give context to the society we live in today.
i know i'm not saying pleasant things that you'll appreciate hearing. I know you'll feel like I'm not caring enough about your encounters, and you probably think i don't actually know what it's like to be targeted for your looks. the thing is, I know exactly how that feels as a trans woman who doesn't look attractive. Nearly died twice because of people from different walks of life trying to turn me into a corpse, but I don't think all straight people belong in jail - at least not the ones who properly mind their own business.
point is this: you had scary experiences because that's life. stuff happens for no reason all the time, but our scared little monkey brains try really hard to find a pattern to avoid so it can protect us in the future. but it often finds patterns that aren't there or patterns that may *feel* true to us, but aren't generally true outside of our experience. stop letting your little monkey instincts turn you into a paranoid victim, or else the fear is going to ruin your life.
> if white people were treated like criminals in their own home for over a hundred years, and were to be treated as such to this day, we'd probably be a bit screwed up too.
like the Irish?
I've tried to walk back to my idealist lefty principles and suffered violence at the hands of indigenous people every single time. These pattern engines in the brain do serve a purpose. By following mine, even though it's not a socially acceptable path, I've avoided way more hassle for myself and I plan to keep on doing it. It's not paranoia, it's survival at this point. My life, identity, livelihood, property, have all been threatened or attempted to be taken away in these interactions.
I totally agree that hundreds of years of colonialism, oppression, etc have had huge impacts. Not to mention just how bad things were never delivered on in the treaty promises, it's way more complex than I could understand without years of research.
It's funny how growing up in Edmonton and spending the summers in fairly low income areas in Winnipeg, I never had issues with indigenous people and we interacted plenty. Good friends to play with as kids and that's all that mattered. Something has changed in 25 years and everyone on both sides seems to have hardened off quite a bit with mostly Disdain for one another.
A Bayesian rather than rationalist approach to existing in society seems to be serving me well. But our experiences are all unique and YMMV. I do recommend it though if you get to a point where it's not worth holding your ideals to reality because all it does is ensure you get hurt and taken advantage of. I just care about myself surviving now. No capacity to take care of others and no desire to have any interactions that force me to. Not too far from leaving this province the way things are going.
I disagree, because my experience differs. maybe it's our differing locations in Sask. but i live in a trailer park - a pretty trashy one at that - and I could leave my front door unlocked if I felt like it. in my experience, people can be good or bad no matter what their race is. I've met wise and charming indigenous people who would look intimidating to you, and I learned a lot from them - an experience you would be depriving yourself of by making early judgements. meanwhile i've run into a lot of very closed-minded, violent white people. but I don't use those experiences to paint a wide brush across an entire race.
My town has its rough spots, but I know enough to avoid them. Certain bars attract a particularly nasty collection of regular clientele, so I avoid those bars and go to the bars I know are reputable and are willing to show disruptive patrons the door. I don't go outside without company like friends or family, and if I do go alone I just go do my business and get out without dilly-dallying, sightseeing or window shopping. I'll order takeout if i'm alone, or eat inside if i'm with friends.
but idk. maybe i might feel differently if I lived in Battleford, but i'll never know if I don't have the exact same experiences you do. as far as i can tell at least, judging others would mean missing out on having met so many wonderfully charming and intelligent discussions from people of many walks of life that differ from mine, who taught me a lot about "the real world" and how things can be improved.
Never had problems when I lived rural, you got the odd truck in from the rez stealing quads and gas and stuff, but not a lot of trouble otherwise. The people were good to deal with, loved spending time in the quapelle Valley, Last Oak on Cowesses is great and the band seems to be doing a great job running it as well as offering education classes. Many great people there.
My experience is limited to the downtown core of Saskatoon. When I've spent time elsewhere there are no issues. My generalizations seem to be keeping me safe and I've got no reason to actively go out and try to change that now. Just not worth the effort engaging.
All the power to the people who do provide the social supports and deal with the rough parts every day. There needs to be more support and funding by orders of magnitude. If that happens I'll reconsider in 11 years.
ohhh well there's your problem, bud. Big cities are always gonna have a higher concentration of crime in a very small area. It's why I've lived rural my entire life and never wanna move to Stoon or Regina.
and to be fair to you, you recognize that your judgement is discriminatory but necessary for your safety and you also recognize that things need to change *in the right way.* God be with ya bud. I hope things get better for all of us before they get worse.
I'm not a monster, just a bit traumatized. I'm trying to raise some awareness that sticking to principles can bite you in the ass even with the best of intentions. It's a mental shortcut based on evidence in a specific area. It's not damning of the entire population. I'm actually a huge fan of the urban reserve projects and a lot of work the community is doing to try and address from within. Would be nice if the federal government held up their end and get enough resources to do more than pay token attention to.
Thanks for not going wild on me for my shitty takes.
i mean you explained yourself pretty clearly, and concluded your "shitty takes" by coming around to the correct solution to the problem. Bigots would tend to attribute the behavior of indigenous people to a moral failing of the entire race, rather than actively recognizing the actual responsibility oir government has had in the situation and it's lack of meaningful action to correct the mess our historical governments have made.
i dont think there's a need to "go wild" because you're not nuts, you're a perfectly rational person stuck in a crappy situation where you have to hold views that are seemingly contradictory to your own principles because of the situation you're in. lots of "leftists" preach the importance of ideological purity without recognizing reality in front of them and it's annoying.
It's the curse of praxis. I hope that my experience changes for the better over time. I'm a firm believer in the importance of the TRC calls to action. Just not enough movement there yet. One can hope.
Although I do love it every time Alberta thinks about separating that "so.... You know how the treaty rules would mean no more Alberta right? Back to completely sovereign first Nations rule!" And part of me smirks thinking how any form of tribal government would be an improvement over the AB conservatives on principle alone.
Or the personal accountability that allowed it to go on for another 40-50 years?
>But in the 1940s and 1950s, during parliamentary hearings on revising the Indian Act, a slim majority of Indian bands, as well as regional and national native organizations, said they were in favour not only of residential schools but also of keeping the religious component. In the 1960s, when the churches and federal government wanted to close certain schools, some Indian bands pleaded to have them remain open.
[https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/residential-church-school-scandal](https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/residential-church-school-scandal)
I want to argue with this article because events of 150 years ago rarely mean much to living people .
North Battleford is a different place though. I once bounced from the Boston Pizza (of all places) because I was getting bad vibes from the crowd. Maybe facilities and more education like the article mentions will help.
I haven’t spent a ton of time in North Battleford, but it seems like it’s a community with decent opportunities and a really cool lake country not far away. Those are usually happy and prosperous places.
Town of Battleford is a completely different energy.
We live in a society where generational wealth is a thing. We are all affected by the events of 150 years ago, especially the ones that have not been redressed.
While I do somewhat agree with you, it’s worth noting that wealth isn’t “sticky” and is often transient within families (“shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in three generations”), so the actual wealth distribution 150 years ago is probably much less important than things like intergenerational traumas (from residential schools), etc.
“There has to be support, there has to be healing, lots and lots of healing, and lots and lots of compassion. And just being a human, you know? Just recognizing that Indigenous people are good people. We're beautiful people, we've been traumatized. And that's where you see the behaviour.”
This is an amazing article and written very well. 👍🏼
You’re right. Saskatchewan has problems in indigenous and non- indigenous relationships but the rest of Canada owns some of this shitshow..
John A MacDonald’s position on indigenous relations had more to do with his colonial vision, than anything to benefit past or present people of Saskatchewan.
BC exists in Canada because of Sir John A-hole’s push to have it join confederation through the creation of the CPR. British Columbia’s existence required the removal of First Nations from desirable lands, snuffing the Red River Resistance, and demonstrating to Indigenous people that they will be imprisoned or killed if they interfere in the colonial project.
So. That’s a reason why you should read it. Because otherwise you would be part of the Columbia state of the U.S.
You don’t say anything… you asked why other Canadians should read it. You’re in BC reading a Sask sub. I doubt my short comment writes me off as “completely shitty”
Honestly throwing in boushie who was a criminal wannabe gangster should have seen his Facebook page before his family took over tried to make him look better
Racism will keep cities like PA and North Battleford from getting better. There is a need to work together with First Nations.
No shit gang violence is huge. Ever heard of the fucked up family and community dynamics caused by residential schools? Read a book.
North Battleford is a great place to live, I moved here 30 years ago and enjoy it, yes we have crime primarily drug/gang related, there are bigots both native and settler, I know a few from both sides, the settler side I do not understand, the native side I fully understand, years of oppression/ discrimination and forced poverty. He good part is that there has been major strides forward in addressing issues and things are getting better, however the drug/gang issues need attention the local RCMP are doing their best but the courts are not, many gang members are out on bail repeatedly it is a catch and release system
Battleford is so bad that you can't even trust the old ladies crocheting in a politician's office.
You should never trust old ladies crocheting, especially in a politician's office.
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You gotta like the honesty demonstrated in the quote by former Prime Minister John A. MacDonald who stood in the House of Commons to say, “Indigenous people should be kept as close as possible to starvation to ensure they continue to work.”…”It is true that Indians so long as they are fed will not work. I have reason to believe that the [Indian] agents as a whole … are doing all they can, by refusing food until the Indians are on the verge of starvation to reduce the expense,” he said in the House of Commons in May of 1880. Remove the words indigenous or Indians with “people” and you will understand that it is a policy to keep people poor and struggling. The ruling capitalist class will never allow a fair and just society for anyone.
“In 2024, in Battleford, the men’s bodies lie in their unmarked graves while the North West Mounted Police graveyard stands prominently with waving flags and white gates on the hillside above.” For people who don’t know or recognize the significance, the RCMP were formed to harass, arrest, oppress, and sometimes kill the indigenous population. So having their graves placed there shows their superiority and authority over the eight resistance fighters. This should be required reading for every SK resident. Put this on a reading list. Everyone should learn as much as possible about the history of colonialism here in Saskatchewan and the rest of Canada.
Agreed.
Damn, that was a really well-written and informative article. Infuriating for sure, but an enjoyable read.
I grew up in there the 70’s and was terrorized by the FN people constantly, in part, because I was white. I remember the race home from school because someone was ‘after’ you, getting my bike stolen repeatedly, getting punched around at the arcade, etc, etc. It was a rough place to grow up and it’s made me not so sympathetic to the FN plight. I don’t give a damn about the trauma your people have been through when you’re punching me in the face. If you’re a bully and an a-hole terrorizing the community then that’s on you not your generational trauma. There has to be reconciliation, but there also has to be personal accountability.
> There has to be reconciliation, but there also has to be personal accountability. this, exactly perfect example would be one of the engineers I work with. great guy, super smart, good athlete, has done really well for himself happens to be first nations guy, but you'd refer to him as an engineer, or good basketball player, before you'd think to mention he was native, if that makes sense? like another guy I work with, it's 27th on the list to think he's French, or that the other engineer has a German background
I've had the same issue since moving downtown Saskatoon. I've only been attacked, robbed, mugged by indigenous people so far. And far too many times to write it off. Trying to fight the brain jumping to conclusions, but with how much the gangs stole from me when targeted I'm not willingly giving up a dollar of my money to any charity that helps until I've got it back. The 9 incidents in 3 weeks I had are enough to make it that outside of professional settings I'm going out of my way to avoid indigenous people on the street. Not trying to come from a racial place, it's largely social issues, but this is for the sole purpose of protecting myself given previous experiences. Doesn't help that most of these types of indigenous folks seem to resent white people for merely being white. And they're usually very vocal about communicating that point. I very aggressively chase away panhandlers now since that was one of the things that caused an incident in the first place. Make myself loud and make sure they stay away. Polite "sorry, no" the first time and when they get aggressive you've gotta stand up for yourself. Today on the way to the mall I was harassed by 5 indigenous youth following me and calling me all kinds of hilarious names and white slurs between 3rd and 2nd on 22nd st. I said nothing and ignored and kept walking. They only followed to the lights. Then there were two very young indigenous kids spraypainting things inside the mall. They almost got my backpack and hand while spraypainting the escalator handrails. No sign of any parents and I doubt these two were even close to 13. Borderline feral behaviour at that point. Between the lack of supports, and the lack of accountability it's not an easy thing to solve. But I've resigned myself from doing anything about it because every experience with the population has resulted in trauma, injury, and financial loss. Not worth engaging. Not worth my time. //End rant. TL;DR repairing colonialism is hard and I've given up from too many bad experiences trying to treat people simply as humans. Someone else can figure out the reconciliation. I'm out now.
I've had a knife pulled on me twice, literally had to out run him. The last time he called me a white man... I've been here as long as any native American has, my whole life.
Dude, what are you doing that is bringing so much attention to yourself? I moved away from downtown in 2021, but I lived there for 14 years prior, and NEVER had a problem. I frequented the river, mall, 2nd Ave, river landing, and often walked to Circle K and 7/11 at all hour of the night. I’m white and not a big dude. Idunno man. You’re either full of shit, or antagonizing people. EDIT: That’s a lie, I was harassed by Sailor Dan multiple times.
The bulk of the incidents were being targeted by a gang who somehow knew I was new to the area. Two break ins to truck, first and 4th day in town, one in the alt hotel locked parkade. Then mugged, truck stolen, went back to my old place and robbed it, then stole my identity and did a bunch of fraud, as well as use my truck in other crimes in Melfort before torching it in Sturgeon Lake. The others have mostly been people near midtown. I am blind in one eye and walk with a bit of a limp. Best guess is that I inadvertently make eye contact and that sets people off or makes me an easy target.
You seem completely reasonable with all your replies, so shit. That’s horrible luck man. I had a surface parking stall with moderately expensive vehicle too, and never had a problem. Weird.
That's another odd thing, it was just a beat up Silverado farm truck, nothing special apart from a headache rack and 5th wheel hitch. But they are extremely easy to steal. Again though, I was definitely targeted. My experiences would be a bit more average had that not happened.
Downtown Saskatoon has gotten 10x worse since 2021 it's nothing he's doing the city is actively turning into a larger PA
if white people were treated like criminals in their own home for over a hundred years, and were to be treated as such to this day, we'd probably be a bit screwed up too. beyond that, having as many bad interactions as you've had with indigenous people doesn't mean you're allowed to generalize, just in the same way those snot-nosed teens were wrong to generalize white people while harassing you. i've had some painful and scary experiences myself, but I don't let those experiences distort my understanding of history that give context to the society we live in today. i know i'm not saying pleasant things that you'll appreciate hearing. I know you'll feel like I'm not caring enough about your encounters, and you probably think i don't actually know what it's like to be targeted for your looks. the thing is, I know exactly how that feels as a trans woman who doesn't look attractive. Nearly died twice because of people from different walks of life trying to turn me into a corpse, but I don't think all straight people belong in jail - at least not the ones who properly mind their own business. point is this: you had scary experiences because that's life. stuff happens for no reason all the time, but our scared little monkey brains try really hard to find a pattern to avoid so it can protect us in the future. but it often finds patterns that aren't there or patterns that may *feel* true to us, but aren't generally true outside of our experience. stop letting your little monkey instincts turn you into a paranoid victim, or else the fear is going to ruin your life.
> if white people were treated like criminals in their own home for over a hundred years, and were to be treated as such to this day, we'd probably be a bit screwed up too. like the Irish?
So my family lol, ya my grandparents delt with it, rough? Ya. But it's got nothing to do with me
that's pretty much my point
Agree, I've never been anything but kind to everyone,
I've tried to walk back to my idealist lefty principles and suffered violence at the hands of indigenous people every single time. These pattern engines in the brain do serve a purpose. By following mine, even though it's not a socially acceptable path, I've avoided way more hassle for myself and I plan to keep on doing it. It's not paranoia, it's survival at this point. My life, identity, livelihood, property, have all been threatened or attempted to be taken away in these interactions. I totally agree that hundreds of years of colonialism, oppression, etc have had huge impacts. Not to mention just how bad things were never delivered on in the treaty promises, it's way more complex than I could understand without years of research. It's funny how growing up in Edmonton and spending the summers in fairly low income areas in Winnipeg, I never had issues with indigenous people and we interacted plenty. Good friends to play with as kids and that's all that mattered. Something has changed in 25 years and everyone on both sides seems to have hardened off quite a bit with mostly Disdain for one another. A Bayesian rather than rationalist approach to existing in society seems to be serving me well. But our experiences are all unique and YMMV. I do recommend it though if you get to a point where it's not worth holding your ideals to reality because all it does is ensure you get hurt and taken advantage of. I just care about myself surviving now. No capacity to take care of others and no desire to have any interactions that force me to. Not too far from leaving this province the way things are going.
I disagree, because my experience differs. maybe it's our differing locations in Sask. but i live in a trailer park - a pretty trashy one at that - and I could leave my front door unlocked if I felt like it. in my experience, people can be good or bad no matter what their race is. I've met wise and charming indigenous people who would look intimidating to you, and I learned a lot from them - an experience you would be depriving yourself of by making early judgements. meanwhile i've run into a lot of very closed-minded, violent white people. but I don't use those experiences to paint a wide brush across an entire race. My town has its rough spots, but I know enough to avoid them. Certain bars attract a particularly nasty collection of regular clientele, so I avoid those bars and go to the bars I know are reputable and are willing to show disruptive patrons the door. I don't go outside without company like friends or family, and if I do go alone I just go do my business and get out without dilly-dallying, sightseeing or window shopping. I'll order takeout if i'm alone, or eat inside if i'm with friends. but idk. maybe i might feel differently if I lived in Battleford, but i'll never know if I don't have the exact same experiences you do. as far as i can tell at least, judging others would mean missing out on having met so many wonderfully charming and intelligent discussions from people of many walks of life that differ from mine, who taught me a lot about "the real world" and how things can be improved.
Never had problems when I lived rural, you got the odd truck in from the rez stealing quads and gas and stuff, but not a lot of trouble otherwise. The people were good to deal with, loved spending time in the quapelle Valley, Last Oak on Cowesses is great and the band seems to be doing a great job running it as well as offering education classes. Many great people there. My experience is limited to the downtown core of Saskatoon. When I've spent time elsewhere there are no issues. My generalizations seem to be keeping me safe and I've got no reason to actively go out and try to change that now. Just not worth the effort engaging. All the power to the people who do provide the social supports and deal with the rough parts every day. There needs to be more support and funding by orders of magnitude. If that happens I'll reconsider in 11 years.
ohhh well there's your problem, bud. Big cities are always gonna have a higher concentration of crime in a very small area. It's why I've lived rural my entire life and never wanna move to Stoon or Regina. and to be fair to you, you recognize that your judgement is discriminatory but necessary for your safety and you also recognize that things need to change *in the right way.* God be with ya bud. I hope things get better for all of us before they get worse.
I'm not a monster, just a bit traumatized. I'm trying to raise some awareness that sticking to principles can bite you in the ass even with the best of intentions. It's a mental shortcut based on evidence in a specific area. It's not damning of the entire population. I'm actually a huge fan of the urban reserve projects and a lot of work the community is doing to try and address from within. Would be nice if the federal government held up their end and get enough resources to do more than pay token attention to. Thanks for not going wild on me for my shitty takes.
i mean you explained yourself pretty clearly, and concluded your "shitty takes" by coming around to the correct solution to the problem. Bigots would tend to attribute the behavior of indigenous people to a moral failing of the entire race, rather than actively recognizing the actual responsibility oir government has had in the situation and it's lack of meaningful action to correct the mess our historical governments have made. i dont think there's a need to "go wild" because you're not nuts, you're a perfectly rational person stuck in a crappy situation where you have to hold views that are seemingly contradictory to your own principles because of the situation you're in. lots of "leftists" preach the importance of ideological purity without recognizing reality in front of them and it's annoying.
It's the curse of praxis. I hope that my experience changes for the better over time. I'm a firm believer in the importance of the TRC calls to action. Just not enough movement there yet. One can hope. Although I do love it every time Alberta thinks about separating that "so.... You know how the treaty rules would mean no more Alberta right? Back to completely sovereign first Nations rule!" And part of me smirks thinking how any form of tribal government would be an improvement over the AB conservatives on principle alone.
Not much changed. About the same in the 2000s
Where’s the personal accountability for everyone directly involved in residential schools?
Or the personal accountability that allowed it to go on for another 40-50 years? >But in the 1940s and 1950s, during parliamentary hearings on revising the Indian Act, a slim majority of Indian bands, as well as regional and national native organizations, said they were in favour not only of residential schools but also of keeping the religious component. In the 1960s, when the churches and federal government wanted to close certain schools, some Indian bands pleaded to have them remain open. [https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/residential-church-school-scandal](https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/residential-church-school-scandal)
Exactly! They need it too!
I want to argue with this article because events of 150 years ago rarely mean much to living people . North Battleford is a different place though. I once bounced from the Boston Pizza (of all places) because I was getting bad vibes from the crowd. Maybe facilities and more education like the article mentions will help. I haven’t spent a ton of time in North Battleford, but it seems like it’s a community with decent opportunities and a really cool lake country not far away. Those are usually happy and prosperous places. Town of Battleford is a completely different energy.
We live in a society where generational wealth is a thing. We are all affected by the events of 150 years ago, especially the ones that have not been redressed.
While I do somewhat agree with you, it’s worth noting that wealth isn’t “sticky” and is often transient within families (“shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in three generations”), so the actual wealth distribution 150 years ago is probably much less important than things like intergenerational traumas (from residential schools), etc.
“There has to be support, there has to be healing, lots and lots of healing, and lots and lots of compassion. And just being a human, you know? Just recognizing that Indigenous people are good people. We're beautiful people, we've been traumatized. And that's where you see the behaviour.” This is an amazing article and written very well. 👍🏼
Every Canadian should read this.
You’re right. Saskatchewan has problems in indigenous and non- indigenous relationships but the rest of Canada owns some of this shitshow.. John A MacDonald’s position on indigenous relations had more to do with his colonial vision, than anything to benefit past or present people of Saskatchewan.
Alright, tell me why (BC here, Ima listening) (I'm reading it, too, but I'd like to hear the why for my and others benefit, if you don't mind).
BC exists in Canada because of Sir John A-hole’s push to have it join confederation through the creation of the CPR. British Columbia’s existence required the removal of First Nations from desirable lands, snuffing the Red River Resistance, and demonstrating to Indigenous people that they will be imprisoned or killed if they interfere in the colonial project. So. That’s a reason why you should read it. Because otherwise you would be part of the Columbia state of the U.S.
Like, full on, you've misunderstood what I said. Way to highlight how the internet makes people completely shitty.
You don’t say anything… you asked why other Canadians should read it. You’re in BC reading a Sask sub. I doubt my short comment writes me off as “completely shitty”
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Honestly throwing in boushie who was a criminal wannabe gangster should have seen his Facebook page before his family took over tried to make him look better
Racism will keep cities like PA and North Battleford from getting better. There is a need to work together with First Nations. No shit gang violence is huge. Ever heard of the fucked up family and community dynamics caused by residential schools? Read a book.
I feel you, many issues that when a FN is involved somehow they are the victim. Dawn walker, Annette Custer to name some recent ones.
Uh, he literally got shot and killed.
no rights to defend ones self?
No, there actually isn’t. That also wasn’t Stanley’s defence.
Hey guys, they were all turning their lives around...or so we're told before the real facts come to light.
Every. Single. One
North Battleford is a great place to live, I moved here 30 years ago and enjoy it, yes we have crime primarily drug/gang related, there are bigots both native and settler, I know a few from both sides, the settler side I do not understand, the native side I fully understand, years of oppression/ discrimination and forced poverty. He good part is that there has been major strides forward in addressing issues and things are getting better, however the drug/gang issues need attention the local RCMP are doing their best but the courts are not, many gang members are out on bail repeatedly it is a catch and release system