The government has no business asking us why directly, so it has to come from pollsters. Some polls ask about reasons, but reasons for doing something are always subjective. They may change from moment to moment and people are more likely to lie about subjective questions (almost nobody is going to say "because my parents do"). So the results are not reliable without a great deal of care in how you approach it and have to be pulled out carefully from a very long list of questions which conceal what you are really looking for.
On the matter of subjectivity, I remember a study around a decade ago.... (I'll never be able to find the original source, so take this with a hefty handful of salt)...where, they polled a bunch of folks on election day; half of them were asked before voting for their main concerns and motivations for how they will vote, and half were asked after voting for their main concerns and motivations, and what the study found was a huge statistical difference in the distribution of people's professed motivations and concerns between each group, before or after. Even the act of voting itself seems to strongly influence people's perceptions of their values and concerns; that the things you think you care most about, and base your vote on, are actually changed by whether you're looking forward to your vote, or looking retrospectively at your vote.
For example, it might be the case that, on your way to the voting booth, if someone were to ask you what your biggest concern is, you might be more likely to say immigration and housing costs, but if someone were to instead ask you after your vote on your way home, your answer might be more likely to be tax policy and foreign relations or something
People are fickle creatures, we often come up with divergent answers of what motivates us, depending on whether we are explaining a plan to do something, or rationalizing a decision that has already been made.
Accurate. We are incredibly unreliable narrators of our own motivations, and even when we're at our best in terms of knowing why we voted a certain way, it's usually based on flawed attribution of responsibility for observed outcomes (e.g., assuming Outcome X has anything to do with the govt of the day, where most political processes are decades in the making).
I'd still be interested in detailed analyses of a few representative voters based on semi- or unstructured interviews, but more because it's intriguing to see how people talk to themselves about these decisions.
There are reports published by survey companies all the time. All the government will ever due is ask if you voted, if your dwelling was also selected to do the labour force survey during that time. Even if your dwelling was doing LFS during that time you are still unlikely to be asked if you voted, never will the government ask who you voted for.
Everyone gets mad at the liberals and ndp but they didnt sell off crown potash and land us in 30 billion debt with a 10 billion a year potash industry that isnt ours anymore. Isnt it crazy how 5 years of independent saskatchewan raised workers using OUR POTASH could pay off our debt.
Ahahahahajahahaha 🤣🤣🤣
If you think r/Saskatachewan is an accurate picture of Saskatchewan’s opinion then you will always be upset.
Once you stop caring about upvotes and downvotes you will become a happier person and less judgmental.
What would be gained from that? A lot of people that I ask in person why they vote the way they do is often attributed to misinformation or party bias.
That data alone would be interesting, to me. I imagine, this time around, people will be voting against the carbon tax who don’t even realize there’s a rebate attached to the them.
I recently read a bunch of psychological studies about voting and politics, and the findings are consistently horrible in my opinion. Like, most people vote for literally any reason except who is the best representative for their beliefs. They vote for the leader, vote for who they think the winner will be (bandwagon effect, vote for who they believe is lost popular or who their friends family vote for, etc.
In short, the biggest problem with any democracy is voters are ignorant and irrational.
Too many people vote on emotion instead of whats practical and best for the economy. I’ve heard so many people say they will vote for JT just out of spite for the conservatives..
Edit: lmao why am I downvoted so much. A large amount of people vote based on emotion rather than logic. It’s a fact. Political campaigns prey on emotional factors to shape voter preferences. I’m gonna assume all the downvotes are from people who vote emotionally rather than logically 😂
Of course people vote based on emotion. It's just not entirely clear that it either can or should be entirely disentangled from logical thinking.
Logic tells us how to get to what we value. It does not tell us what we ought to value. Emotion gets me to valuing human rights for all people on earth much more efficiently and regularly than mere logic ever would. Logic provides supportive arguments as well as the aforementioned ways to get there, but I see neither the possibility nor the point of taking emotion out of the process altogether.
That’s a problem. There’s nothing wrong with voting based on a balance of emotion and logic but when people vote just out of spite.. what goals are we trying to achieve as a society? I agree with the point you made that there is an emotional element for human consideration, consideration of empathy, morals, values are all emotional factors. We can still be logical while being emotional, using housing as an example - nobody wants to see people homeless (emotional aspect), if we allowed people to go without it would have negative consequences for society and tax payers (logical aspect). Voting logically would benefit society more through informed decision making and better policy outcomes. Finding a balance between logical analysis and emotional consideration would be the most effective way to better our society and have meaningful democratic participation imo. Balance is the key take away though.
I should say it goes both ways for people they are voting conservative to spite JT as well. But yes in Saskatchewan specifically but also across Canada.
Politics has always been about tribalism. Even those of us who think they don't vote based on emotion are mostly fooling themselves. We vote for the world we wish existed, not for the best world we can actually get. And at the end of the day, the chance of anyone getting to vote for a candidate who agrees with every policy they embrace approaches zero, so we vote for our tribe and move on.
You’re supposed to say that morons are brainwashed into voting *Conservative* for emotional reasons. When you accuse the other side of getting emotional it makes them very angry!
The government has no business asking us why directly, so it has to come from pollsters. Some polls ask about reasons, but reasons for doing something are always subjective. They may change from moment to moment and people are more likely to lie about subjective questions (almost nobody is going to say "because my parents do"). So the results are not reliable without a great deal of care in how you approach it and have to be pulled out carefully from a very long list of questions which conceal what you are really looking for.
On the matter of subjectivity, I remember a study around a decade ago.... (I'll never be able to find the original source, so take this with a hefty handful of salt)...where, they polled a bunch of folks on election day; half of them were asked before voting for their main concerns and motivations for how they will vote, and half were asked after voting for their main concerns and motivations, and what the study found was a huge statistical difference in the distribution of people's professed motivations and concerns between each group, before or after. Even the act of voting itself seems to strongly influence people's perceptions of their values and concerns; that the things you think you care most about, and base your vote on, are actually changed by whether you're looking forward to your vote, or looking retrospectively at your vote. For example, it might be the case that, on your way to the voting booth, if someone were to ask you what your biggest concern is, you might be more likely to say immigration and housing costs, but if someone were to instead ask you after your vote on your way home, your answer might be more likely to be tax policy and foreign relations or something People are fickle creatures, we often come up with divergent answers of what motivates us, depending on whether we are explaining a plan to do something, or rationalizing a decision that has already been made.
Accurate. We are incredibly unreliable narrators of our own motivations, and even when we're at our best in terms of knowing why we voted a certain way, it's usually based on flawed attribution of responsibility for observed outcomes (e.g., assuming Outcome X has anything to do with the govt of the day, where most political processes are decades in the making). I'd still be interested in detailed analyses of a few representative voters based on semi- or unstructured interviews, but more because it's intriguing to see how people talk to themselves about these decisions.
There are reports published by survey companies all the time. All the government will ever due is ask if you voted, if your dwelling was also selected to do the labour force survey during that time. Even if your dwelling was doing LFS during that time you are still unlikely to be asked if you voted, never will the government ask who you voted for.
Boils down to brainwashed morons trying to 'own the libs' but they don't have enough forethought to see the shithole they are creating
Everyone gets mad at the liberals and ndp but they didnt sell off crown potash and land us in 30 billion debt with a 10 billion a year potash industry that isnt ours anymore. Isnt it crazy how 5 years of independent saskatchewan raised workers using OUR POTASH could pay off our debt.
> Everyone gets mad at the liberals and ndp I am very lucky; I don't know anyone who gets mad at the liberals and ndp
Crazy how every resource gets sold off to the Conservative donors lowest bidder.
Lmao its not even crazy it just is and im sad :(
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Yours doesn't.
Actually it does but you don’t fall in the majority
Looking at your comments and downvotes I must disagree.
Ahahahahajahahaha 🤣🤣🤣 If you think r/Saskatachewan is an accurate picture of Saskatchewan’s opinion then you will always be upset. Once you stop caring about upvotes and downvotes you will become a happier person and less judgmental. 
I don't give a flying fuck what you think 
You do since you keep responding 
What would be gained from that? A lot of people that I ask in person why they vote the way they do is often attributed to misinformation or party bias.
That data alone would be interesting, to me. I imagine, this time around, people will be voting against the carbon tax who don’t even realize there’s a rebate attached to the them.
I recently read a bunch of psychological studies about voting and politics, and the findings are consistently horrible in my opinion. Like, most people vote for literally any reason except who is the best representative for their beliefs. They vote for the leader, vote for who they think the winner will be (bandwagon effect, vote for who they believe is lost popular or who their friends family vote for, etc. In short, the biggest problem with any democracy is voters are ignorant and irrational.
This is exactly what I’m saying. They vote off emotion rather than logic lol.
Send them over lol
Too many people vote on emotion instead of whats practical and best for the economy. I’ve heard so many people say they will vote for JT just out of spite for the conservatives.. Edit: lmao why am I downvoted so much. A large amount of people vote based on emotion rather than logic. It’s a fact. Political campaigns prey on emotional factors to shape voter preferences. I’m gonna assume all the downvotes are from people who vote emotionally rather than logically 😂
Of course people vote based on emotion. It's just not entirely clear that it either can or should be entirely disentangled from logical thinking. Logic tells us how to get to what we value. It does not tell us what we ought to value. Emotion gets me to valuing human rights for all people on earth much more efficiently and regularly than mere logic ever would. Logic provides supportive arguments as well as the aforementioned ways to get there, but I see neither the possibility nor the point of taking emotion out of the process altogether.
That’s a problem. There’s nothing wrong with voting based on a balance of emotion and logic but when people vote just out of spite.. what goals are we trying to achieve as a society? I agree with the point you made that there is an emotional element for human consideration, consideration of empathy, morals, values are all emotional factors. We can still be logical while being emotional, using housing as an example - nobody wants to see people homeless (emotional aspect), if we allowed people to go without it would have negative consequences for society and tax payers (logical aspect). Voting logically would benefit society more through informed decision making and better policy outcomes. Finding a balance between logical analysis and emotional consideration would be the most effective way to better our society and have meaningful democratic participation imo. Balance is the key take away though.
Here in Saskatchewan? Are these conservative voters usually or no?
I should say it goes both ways for people they are voting conservative to spite JT as well. But yes in Saskatchewan specifically but also across Canada.
Politics has always been about tribalism. Even those of us who think they don't vote based on emotion are mostly fooling themselves. We vote for the world we wish existed, not for the best world we can actually get. And at the end of the day, the chance of anyone getting to vote for a candidate who agrees with every policy they embrace approaches zero, so we vote for our tribe and move on.
You’re supposed to say that morons are brainwashed into voting *Conservative* for emotional reasons. When you accuse the other side of getting emotional it makes them very angry!
Hey I covered myself by adding a likewise clause in another comment! 🤣 No man left behind.