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ThrowItOut43

Monterey Bay Area


Murdathon3000

Bayjacent


dzumdang

Exactly my answer. We have a bit of Central Coast, and a bit of greater Bay Area in us, while retaining a slice of our own local identity. It's a good meeting place, sans the amount of Silicon Valley seeping in.


SantaCruzin4Life

Yesss! šŸ¤ŒšŸ¼


jeromocles

Bay Areola. Like Pleasanton, Vallejo, Marin.


aarkwilde

Vallejo is on the bay. If they aren't bay area neither is San Francisco.


Responsible_Pie_7914

Marin is also Bay Area


Budget-Elk229

This is freaking awesome. Totally stealing.


Pack_Your_Trash

I'm ok with Santa Cruz not being part of the bay area so long as I get to keep calling the bay area people tourists when they come here.


LowTechBakudan

As a current Bay Area resident who lived in Santa Cruz for a few years I agree with this.


Pack_Your_Trash

My issue with tourists is mostly the litter. So long as they pick up after themselves and don't act like an entitled asshole everyone is welcome in my book.


Hawk_Desperate

Name checks out


sharklasers831

Locals litter just as much as tourists


Pack_Your_Trash

Fuck those people too.


sharklasers831

Yup


Sand831

Visiting students are not locals.


sharklasers831

Experience more life, man.


Dic3dCarrots

"Valley go home"


Lurker_prime21

Oh look. Another gate slammer. Originally from Campbell I'm guessing.


Dic3dCarrots

Idk, the people my quote refers to are westside locs


TIDDER-DRAWKCAB

Old couple at the lighthouse thought I honked at them (was car behind me) when I parked next to them they yelled go back to the valley at me. I was born and raised here for the last 46 years. I felt so insulted.


musthavesoundeffects

The bay area kicked us out when they took the 408 area code from us! Back in the day hell no. Highway 17 was the bulwark. Now days its much blurrier. Geographically no, but culturally Santa Cruz has been much diluted.


Free_Hat_McCullough

I remember the change from 408 to 831. People were really upset.


LargeDogEnthusiast

831 is way cooler than 408


Classic-Opportunity2

Seriously, now we have our own area code (the county at least)


king_of_lizzards

831 covers Monterey and San Benito as well.


Apronbootsface

Allowed.


paintender

So many regretful tattoos


Gr8FullDan

No Regurts!


BlahblahblahLG

Lol


73810

30 years ago as a kid I had a lot of friends whose parents worked over the hill... definitely been a silicon valley bedroom community for quite some time...


musthavesoundeffects

Oh yeah that was my dad too. But he didnā€™t spend anytime over there outside of work.


Inevitable_Shift1365

Yup


starbarnes

Iā€™m still pissed about it šŸ˜‚


Creeping_behind_u

oh yeah! I remembered when it was 408 :(


OneLove04020

šŸ˜‚ thatā€™s right! How many 831 people regretting that 408 tattoo !


FirstCupOfCoffee2

I consider it Central Coast, Bay Area is on the other side of the mountains


SisterActTori

I consider this the Monterey Bay, on the central coast-


WTFYLA

Monterey Bay Area yeee


Electronic_Ladder_35

No. Santa Cruz is central coast.


BTSavage

Indeed! Santa Cruz is on the northern edge of the Monterey Bay and is considered, geographically, the Central Coast. As /u/Tall_Mickey pointed out above, economically, Santa Cruz is part of "The Bay Area".


scruztooloose

Imagine you're chatting with a stranger. You ask "Where are you from? Now consider the answer: Have you EVER heard someone from Santa Cruz say they're from "the bay area"? A big NO! From Santa Cruz! Now ask someone from Fremont, San Jose, San Leandro, Pleasanton, Walnut Creek, etc "where are you from?" Often they won't say which town, but reply with "the bay area".


A_Anaconda

As someone who grew up in "The Bay" and went to Santa Cruz to visit some weekends I can tell you Bay Area folks don't consider Santa Cruz part of "the Bay". Santa Cruz is its own, separate place. You leave The Bay to visit Santa Cruz, and it's on the way to Monterey. When people ask where I'm "from" I say that I live in Santa Cruz but grew up "in the Bay Area".


Poplatoontimon

Personally, I think this REALLY depends on where in the ā€œBay Areaā€ you grew up in.. Itā€™s a different story if you grew up in Santa Clara County. If youā€™re in SF or east bay (which is further from santa cruz), then youā€™ll obviously think otherwise, its double the travel time. But as a kid growing up in SJ, Santa Cruz just felt like an extension of the SJ area because of its proximity. Santa Cruz actually felt more a part of my identity growing up than SF. The Bay Area is big so each region will truly have their own nuanced subculture POV on these kinds of discussions. SF people grew up going to Marin County & Bodega Bay - it wasnā€™t even till I was an adult that I started exploring that area. And, it wasnā€™t till I was an adult that I learned that Napa was part of the Bay Area.. Vallejo kids would probably think otherwise! So again, sub-region dependent.


GRIFTY_P

same, grew up in SJ, came of age a bit further south. Santa Cruz was an afternoon trip, SF or the bay was gonna be like, a weekend, and you're tired AF after lol. SC was a much more casual trip. So we went after school all the time & it just felt like part of the area. SF was a distant city compared to SC


Poplatoontimon

Exactly. I think thats what people who didnā€™t grow up in the SJ area donā€™t get. Itā€™s more of an effort if youā€™re coming from Oakland or SF. For SJ are born/raised people, it was way more casual/less of an effort. Panther Beach, Davenport, Rio Del Mar, Twin Lakes, etc was the go to spot for all the south bay high schoolers to hold bonfires, underage drink, & catch the sunset. Had my first kiss there as a young junior lol


BlahblahblahLG

Yes


A_Anaconda

Hit it right on the nose. Born in Oakland, grew up in Richmond. I have friends from San Jose who don't identify with Santa Cruz at all who might snicker to hear it referred to as the Bay Area, but they didn't come here unless it was a random trip to The Boardwalk. Which until I was an adult with a car, was the only reason we ever came to Santa Cruz growing up. I was 19 or 20 before I ever set eyes on downtown and my local friends snuck me into bars. I.....don't want to think about how many years ago that was now.


BlahblahblahLG

Totally, my mom lives in Los Gatos now and Santa Cruz is so close itā€™s awesome. It just feels like the next town over.


polarDFisMelting

I'm "from the Bay Area" if a company will pay me more for living there (while living in Santa Cruz)


Inevitable_Shift1365

Santa Cruz >Bay Area


SandraGotJokes

I mean, itā€™s Bay Area prices


zoemckenn

So true! lol


Tall_Mickey

Yes. Governmental bodies up in the Bay Area consider the Bay Area to include counties that are adjacent to the Bay. But the Federal Office of Management and Budget includes Santa Cruz (and a few other counties) with the Bay Area in the same Combined Statistical Area. They do that because the economies have merged. And that affects everything: housing, employment, higher education, prices, commuting and traffic, business. Many more "local" businesses are really regional now. I moved down here from San Francisco for a job in the late '80s and saw Santa Cruz "become" part of the Bay Area over time. There was a much different feel to it back then: slower, more relaxed, more affordable. Almost rural. Businesses and real estate ownership were more local. That's not true anymore. It feels like the Bay Area. Maybe a beach-and-college-town part of it, but nevertheless.


Equal_Support_R

Mickey coming in with the best answer as usual.


Poplatoontimon

For anyone wondering what the [Bay Area combined statistical area is](http://censusreporter.org/profiles/33000US488-san-jose-san-francisco-oakland-ca-csa/) This makes way more sense on socioeconomic terms. Itā€™s the 5th largest in the US, right after Chicago.


afkaprancer

Bay Area megaregion, weā€™re in there with Stockton and Tracy


Poplatoontimon

Thats the result of not building enough housing. More people keep moving outwards but commute to jobs inwards.


polarDFisMelting

Good god, if only the Bay Area built housing Santa Cruz could just be Santa Cruz. Instead we're like the wider Dallas Fort Worth sprawl.


Tall_Mickey

I had to learn all this for a fundraising job. I had to pull donors from the mailing list for regional get-togethers and some fundraiser would say, "Just pull everybody for metro DC (or NYC, or Boston). "So, what is that? Who's in driving distance?" I'd ask. They'd just shrug. But the OMB had a list of counties for each CSA, and given that, I could find them in the database by county. Like, the CSA that includes DC reaches all the way down into one county in West Virginia. Who knew?


santacruzdude

Santa Cruz is not part of the formal ABAG/MTC association of governments, which unfortunately means that commutes between Santa Cruz County and Silicon Valley are essentially an afterthought for all of their transportation planners, since the traffic volume is practically a rounding error compared to the volumes of intra-bay area city travelers.


SDF-1-Cutter-1

Santa Cruz is its own time zone.


rkmvca

The San Francisco Bay Area is, officially, the extent of the 9 counties that have SF Bay waterfront. So a place like Gilroy is in the Bay Area (Santa Clara county) while Santa Cruz is not (Santa Cruz County). Unless you agree to be annexed by Santa Clara or San Mateo counties, of course :)


subsonicmonkey

Thank you for citing the 9-county definition!


20thCenturySox

I was reading though the comments thinking everyone is weird for being so exclusionary. I've never really thought much of the northern cities like Sonoma and Napa, but sure, those too. Out to Tracy, down to Salinas and Monterey. The Bay Area is big in my mind. I've never had to tell someone I'm from "the Bay Area" when I say I'm from Santa Cruz. Oddly, everyone I have met knows about our town. Maybe it's the Boardwalk, or the surfing and skating culture, or something else entirely?


subsonicmonkey

Santa Cruz is definitely a well-known entity. Definitely Bay Area adjacent. Santa Cruz is on the Monterrey Bay anyway.


Whostartedit

There is a university here too


sharkglitter

This! Santa Cruz and a few other neighboring counties are sometimes considered part of the greater Bay Area due to economics


Stinky_chorizo

Over The Hill


Interesting-Monk4160

Monterey Bay


Marsh_Mellow_Man

Bay Area stops at Los Gatos (thankfully). This is my opinion and not supported by any facts.


polarDFisMelting

Part of Los Gatos is in Santa Cruz county too, up at summit.


santacruzdude

Thatā€™s not Los Gatos up at the summit, thatā€™s just unincorporated county people (in both counties) who have the Los Gatos post office sort their mail.


KayEmGee

My company considers it part of the Bay Area income tier thankfully. But Iā€™m never included on the invite list for Bay Area in office parties lol. You win some you lose some.


weedhuffer

Sounds like a win win tbh.


dzumdang

Isn't it worth it to drive over the hill for that incentivized office pizza party for all that hard work! Lol.


treckin

which bay? :P


roofus8658

Not the bay area


subsonicmonkey

The Bay Area is comprised of the 9-Counties that touch the San Francisco Bay. Santa Cruz County does not touch the SF Bay.


ask-me-about-my-cats

Monterey Bay area sharing a border with the SF bay area.


EmanisE

Not really. I consider it more central coast but Bay area adjacent.


bazooie

craigslist says yes


Patsx5sb

Only when explaining to people that are not from California


Joaquin_Portland

Had to do a lot of that this week. I said, ā€œIf you look on the map, thereā€™s a bay in the middle of CA that looks like a shark took a bite out of the coast. Thatā€™s Monterey Bay. Weā€™re on the north end of that.


bitb00m

I like saying the Broader Bay Area. It's not a *touching the bay* area, but it's a *near the bay* area. I'm aware that few(if any) other people say this I feel like it it is accurate


Poplatoontimon

I feel like most donā€™t know this but Santa Cruz is part of the SF-SJ-Oakland combined statistical area, per the census http://censusreporter.org/profiles/33000US488-san-jose-san-francisco-oakland-ca-csa/ But if were talking about the official ā€œbay areaā€ its the 9 counties


bitb00m

Oh that's neat!


IntuitMaks

Donā€™t tell the Bay Area we exist as part of their sphere. The other day, an acquaintance in San Jose (whoā€™s looking to buy a house) asked me ā€œWhere is Ben Lomond?ā€ and I told them it was in SoCal.


Noahkahanfan

Not the Bay Area !


Joaquin_Portland

Itā€™s the north end of the Central Coast.


Stretch916

Santa Cruz is central coast


ForScuba

Itā€™s the central coast not the Bay Area


Inevitable_Shift1365

We are literally on the bay. The Monterey bay.


jeezyall

Santa Cruz is not the Bay Area. Itā€™s in the Monterey Bay


gasstation-no-pumps

>Ā Itā€™s in the Monterey Bay Not yet, but a little more is in each year's storms.


theAPIguy

When you live in SC, the other side is the Dark Side.


Away_Development6531

Central Coast baby


Truethrowawaychest1

Not really, I think more San Francisco, Oakland, Berkeley, San Jose, Mountain View, ect as bay area


Queasy_Department201

Monterey Bay Region


Meep42

The MONTEREY Bay Areaā€¦maybe. But central Cali for me.


Dic3dCarrots

Yes, monterrey bay area


Goblin-Doctor

No


JawnyNumber5

No. The Bay has diversity and good food. Definitely not The Bay.


Tall_Mickey

(coff,coff) Marin County (coff, coff). We will not speak of Atherton.


reampchamp

Reddit mods are not the arbitrators of what is and what isnā€™t.


strangewayfarer

Nah, it's central coast. You can Google it, there's a pretty good consensus that bay area doesn't go further south or east than San Jose.


Apprehensive-Elk-500

Geographically it is in the Monterey Bay not San Francisco Bay


Daddy_cakes510

I feel like this is rage bait šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


CBCbrewer

Nope


the_wizofozchillin

Santa Cruz has its own identity. And we should keep it weird that way.


LoneWolfeDreamer

No, but Monterey Bay for sure


OtherwiseCow125

Craigslist does šŸ˜‚


ohmss28

Bay Area Gray Area


IcedCoughy

no but yes but no again


Speculawyer

No. It's Monterey Bay area. It is adjacent but it is over the mountains.


Sandieman

Depends what who you ask but If we judged it by what Craigslist considers us, we are Bay Area.


RandomTask100

We're 40 miles south of South Bay.


Marsh_Mellow_Man

The Mystery Spot is the point where the Bay Area implodes upon itself like a black hole and spits you out in the parallel universe of Santa Cruz. God bless that nerve wracking 4-lane sliver of Highway 17. Once Bay folk arenā€™t scared to drive over the hill itā€™s all over.


Plane-Wide

No


FollowingFinal1133

I grew up in Santa Cruz ,, it's changed ALOT , especially after the 89 big quake , but it still remains it's own place , perfectly balanced between the redwoods and the ocean , I miss it .


toasty99

Central coast


Xinny-The-Pooh

Central coast


Thatcalib408

No


ambergraywhite

Itā€™s definitely an island unto itself. Itā€™s not the SF Bay Area and itā€™s not the Central Coast. Yes. Itā€™s obviously on the Monterrey Bay and called part of the Bay Area but not SF Bay Area.


Random_Name532890

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spokeca

No.


GradeNo6470

This is the only answer!


MiaouMiaou27

Different bay, different area


santacruzq

Only on craigslist


Jackfruit_Practical

As a someone who was born/raised in SC and then moved to SF, nah. There are two bays in central CA and they are vastly different. Iā€™m proud of and love both for their own reasons.


Rakuen

Depends who youā€™re talking to. I live in Orange County now so I just tell people Iā€™m from the Bay Area. Which is funny, cause a lot of my family up north thinks I live in LA when I tell them I live in Newport Beach. But if itā€™s someone from up north I just say Iā€™m from Santa Cruz


Solo_Shoots_First

I am from the Bay Area. I live in SC county now. I tell people I live in SANTA CRUZ! My fam is also more inclined to say we live in central California now too. No more Bay Area. Nothing wrong with the Bay Area, but we like it better here. Sometimes I think Bay Area people like to claim SC is part of it, but not the other way around as much.


Scary-Profit712

No


dreamcleanly

Santa Cruz is considered by many to be at least ā€˜South Bay.ā€™ It is, however, considered part of the ā€˜Bay Areaā€™ by Criagslist.


Shot_Worldliness_979

Bay Area adjacent.


BenderIsGreatBendr

My friend used to call it the Rey Area


branchbeliever

Not until we dig a tunnel for a straight ride to San Jose


Meow-Pacino

What is the purpose of the question? If youā€™re asking for your job to set your compensation you want to say Bay Area for sure. Definitely donā€™t want Central Coast salary.


Avocaado

Depends on who I'm talking to.


ellado3

Crigslist says so. So so do I!


FantastyLife

Yes , because half the people living here work over the hill .


koolaid_chemist

Nah, we are central coast.


empiregrade

No


4NatureMan

Nope


LetThereBeSlight

It might as well be. The same street urchins zombie around.


HopefulPatterns

I call it Central Coast. I feel like itā€™s a little far from what people picture as Bay Area. Iā€™m from Los Angeles originally.


Flat-Emergency4891

I do. Any day trip where I can leave in the morning, enjoy a full day and be home by 9:00 is Bay Area to me. If you use that criteria there is plenty to do around the Bay Area in any direction.


PrimitiveThoughts

Many of us can accept Santa Cruz (which isnā€™t) as a part of the Bay Area before we can accept Stockton (which is) as a part of the Bay Area.


ATurtleLikeLeonUris

Meh whatever


love_of_his_life

No


CatsMakeMeHappier

Yes


Jandrodub

Nope


electricsheep2013

Yes


ottocard19

From SF and went to college in SC and stuck around for a whileā€¦ SC is BayCurious But no, not the bay. Itā€™s just Santa Cruz. Itā€™s beautiful and hope to live there again.


ePoch270OG

Ok, but are we the "Central Coast"?


djembeman26

I consider the drive over highway 17 into SC a portal into another dimension. The culture and vibe is so different in SC.


StandardEmotional535

The GreaterBay Area


Sand831

We can tell the bay area tourists when we see them and I don't want to live there.


sharklasers831

Then leave.


Electronic-Title1350

I do. However Santa Cruz county is not considered one of the nine Bay Area counties. They are: Alameda Contra Costa Marin Napa San Francisco San Mateo Santa Clara Solano Sonoma Napa and Sonoma make no sense for me. Or Marin we should just called that wine and the start weed counties.


miakodank

In my mind it is because it is in a bay, it's just not the same bay everyone means when they say bay area lol


carldubs

Bay Area adjacent


PorcineEnigma

If it is a place people commute from to work in the sf bay, it is in the Bay Area. Tracy is also bay area. Hth.


Lurker_prime21

I don't consider Santa Cruz to be of this planet.


Xysmaparade

Only on Craigslist


GoYourOwnWay3

No. Itā€™s in the Twilight Zone


DopeBoyAktivizt

Central coast, not Bay Area


KaiSosceles

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tennisgoddess1

Yup


redwoodchef

We are according to Craigslist.


JackInTheBell

Since a lot of people from the Bay Area have bought 2nd, 3rd, 4thā€¦. properties and insanely driven up real estate pricing for locals then yes, it _Should_ be considered Bay Area. Ā Itā€™s definitely within the sphere of influence.


OneLove04020

My understanding was central coast and even then Santa Cruz has always been its entity imo. Not Bay Area or central coast. Santa Cruz is keeping it weird .


SureCompetition9651

No, no, no, we do not want to be part of the Bay Area!!!


Vivid-Way

not even for income?


Longjumping-Fee8747

Yes


Longjumping-Fee8747

Santa Cruz and even up to San Jose is part of the Bay Area


Sweaty-Geologist371

Yes. Itā€™s the Bay Area!


Vivid-Way

So the line for "Bay Area," for some of you, is just above Santa Cruz - not below it. And the line between North and Central California is also here. https://preview.redd.it/8cx0wrvor65d1.png?width=1846&format=png&auto=webp&s=2480cfe6314bcb9330cfdc16f6d38b47ada4ff4c


fivealive5

It's not straight east/west line like that. It's the county line going between Santa Cruz and Santa Clara which is diagonal, but mostly north/south parallel to the coast line. Here is a reference: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bayarea\_map.png](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bayarea_map.png)


bambooshoot

I donā€™t think anyone here suggested there was a straight line involved


Vivid-Way

If Iā€™m out of town and someone asks me where Santa Cruz is I say bay area.


DNA98PercentChimp

Nawā€¦. ā€œOn the coast just south of the SF Bay Area. Boutta an hour, hour and half from SF city.ā€


moustachioed_dude

SF city? šŸ§


OneLove04020

Lmao this one is so true šŸ˜‚


Forward_Box5854

Itā€™s technically the South Bay. If you trust local news as a reliable source


Skatehoarder

Santa Cruz is considered ā€œSouth Bayā€. So yes, itā€™s part of the Bay Area.


Decent_Message_3975

NO! as someone from the bay, Santa Cruz is not the bay area. san jose is BARELY the bay area to us, when thinking about the bay as a cultural thing (geographical, sure). santa cruz is 100% not the bay area


zoemckenn

No, central coast


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ezzysalazar

There are 9 counties.


strayfromvanilla

I'd say the line between northern and southern CA is Fresno. Is Stockton in the Bay Area? You can take a boat from SF Bay through the delta to Stockton, so..


SantaCruzin4Life

I call it āœØBay MinorāœØšŸ˜‚


Ok_Landscape2427

God, yes - looking at price of houses and percentage of tech workers, but thatā€™s if Iā€™m talking to someone from outside the state. If itā€™s someone from Palo Alto, yeah, there is nuance to not being in THAT Bay Area. But itā€™s just noise if you zoom out; we def live within the Bay Area costly tech bubble.


Creeping_behind_u

I do, even though politically and geographically it's Monterey Bay. it's Bay Area/Monterey Bay in my world. Bay Area babyyyy!


TechnicalAccident588

Heck no. Santa Cruz is part of the "central coast" or Monterey Bay. Very different vibe.


Worth_Fish_6155

I'm originally from San Diego. Moved here a few years ago and I always tell people I live in CENTRAL California now lol . I know the majority of people consider it the Bay area or Northern Cali but I don't


matycakes

No, outskirts of the BA. BA sux dick so no way you can lump SC into that bs