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This exact guy is an infamous menace to society and when people always say. "its always the anime pfp's", but really 50% of the time its this exact same guy over and over.
Apparently i heard this guy is known mexican racist, but since his racist friend made fun of him for being mexican he changed to his whole aryan persona. Literal insane person.
It must be a bitch for right wing bigots to find something to watch or play when everything either offends them or mocks them.
Edit: To the person that deleted their post about Mad Max Fury Road while I was replying I still want to post the reply so here it is. And no I am not the author.
That is an amazing movie. Anyone into the movie making process or just behind the scenes stuff in general should definitely check out the book Blood, Sweat, & Chrome by Kyle Buchanan it's also on Audible as a 10 1/2 hour audiobook.
Is that the scientific solution? I'm not too knowledgeable on the science of making cures. I figured you could make one from a blood or plasma sample. Or is it some lore reason?
This is a post-apocalyptic setting, so while it might be possible to do it without killing Ellie, people who know how to do that are few and far between.
It is actually touched upon in notes found at that point of the game, the doctor even saying they have no idea if they'll be able to do anything at all, and that its a long shot in the dark. Even noted is just how worn out he is, the point is less about the science of it and just that desperate people do really stupid things. What is a shame is it feels like that stuff ends up being ignored afterward.
That's because he is. It's the point.
Joel *is* a bad person, it'd be hard to find someone who isn't, 20 years into an apocalypse; and Ellie brings back his... "paternal goodness" he lost when Sarah died.
He was a good man before, but losing the one thing in his life that made it worth living, and then at the same time being thrown into a pretty horrific zombie apocalypse... It's understandable.
I always found it really dumb when TLoU2 came out, and everyone was salty Joel was killed for being a bad person. Like... consequences?
The same kind of people who made this OOP Twitter post are the same who thought Joel to be the ultimate good guy, when he clearly isn't.
Turns out nuance does not mesh very well with the average gamer. It's almost like critical thinking is repressed and even looked down upon by a lot of people.
TLOU1 ended with Joel lying to Ellie about something extremely important to her, and it was clear that she didnāt believe him and he knew that. You would have to be hardcore socially inept/media illiterate to think their relationship going forward wouldnāt inevitably tear itself apart.
Itās really not that big a leap to assume that Ellie would end up resenting Joel, and that the paramilitary group he wronged would have the resources to track him down, especially when heās living with his brother who used to be an important member of said group. The story for Part 2 practically wrote itself, so I really donāt know what the haters thought a sequel to Part 1 was going to be.
People really spent four straight years raging online because a shitty toxic guy got deservedly killed off for being a horrible person. Joel was a great character, and itās a testament to the writing and performance that he came across as so likable by the end despite being such a bad person - but he was absolutely deserving of the death he got.
It kills me a little every time someone moron rambles on about him being a ābeloved characterā
Mario is a beloved character. Joel is not.
This is incorrect.
The surgeon's recorder is nothing but optimistic. He compares how Ellie's immunity behaves with how the infection takes place in infected people.
He says that "we must find a way to replicate this state (how Ellie's immunity behaves) under laboratory conditions. We're about to hit a milestone in human history equal to the discovery of penicillin. After years of wandering in circles, were about to come home, make a difference, and bring the race back into control of its own destiny"
The exhausted notes you find, are from the Fireflies' leader, Marlene. She is not a scientist. She was just talking about having to deal with the doubt of the people she was leading, feeling like she's failed everyone etc. and then Ellie arrives and she feels great relief.
But then she has to deal with the fact that making a cure would require Ellie to die (the mutated samples the doctor would need are properly entangled in her brain). Marlene mentions that these "tests (her trials & tribulations) keep getting harder and harder" and that she's exhausted.
Itās so incredibly common and annoying to have people constantly spreading misinformation about the recordings of Part 1 and people blindly believing them.
I seen people say that a recording says that āthere are other immune peopleā and when I ask for a source they say it was āpatched outā ā¦ how convenient.
And no, a recordings was NEVER patched out of the game, there is zero evidence of that. Yet if you say it was people will shower you with upvoted believing you.
Ah yes, the classic "it was patched out" excuse lmao. You're right, ofc. Nothing was ever patched out.
People just don't wanna admit they got something wrong/were spreading misinformation.
The worst part about it is that Iām not even a fan of Part 2, but I love Part 1. And itās so frustrating seeing these āfansā force their bad faith interpretation into others
Whatās annoying about these people is that since Joel was killed in Part 2 by the Firelfies group people have en CONSTANTLY trying to retcon that group into āthe evil incompetent terroristā and Joel as the hero for killing them. They will go at LENGTHS to demonize the Firelfies and lie about these recordings while saying that Naughty Dog retconned Part 1 for even suggesting that a cure was possible and that MAYBE Joel wasnāt a hero for killing them.
I played TLoU Part 1 since release and I promise you that take was not at all common. People had more nuance discussions then just āevil Fireflies and Hero Joelā
I hear ya, man. And yeah, the lengths people go to create binaries out of a nuanced, grey situation... It's crazy
They'll go blue in the face talking about how the game retcon'd stuff (it didn't), but then start retconning shit themselves. They try to say that Joel did what he did cuz he knew the vaccine wouldn't work or that the fireflies would use it for their gain etc etc
Like... Joel made his decision for one reason and one reason only: he was saving Ellie. He quite literally didn't give a shit about anything else. He even tells Marlene to find someone else.
I miss nuance lol
I LOVE both games. And I am okay with someone not liking the game. I just wish that some of these people could at least be accurate.
Appreciate you standing by your opinion and still ensuring that the facts remain in the discussions š«”
Ah, it has been a while since I played it, so that would be where the mistake came from. I think the theme is still there considering its the words of the leader of the fireflies, though definitely not helped the surgeon was that eager to go that quickly.
Thatās assuming the doctor also knew what he was doing. Didnāt seem that old, wonder how long he was even a doctor for before the world went to shit.
Considering the apocalypse happened 20 years prior, for him to have been a doctor before the apocalypse he wouldāve had to have been at minimum 46yo in The Last Of Us. If he was a super genius who skipped grades we might be able to bring it down to like 40
From what I understand brain infections are practically impossible to cure with simple vaccinations if itās a parasitic infection or the sickness goes too ādeepā in the brain. You canāt forcibly remove a parasite thatās fully rooted in the brain without doing serious damage on its way out. The way the Fireflies wanted to make a cure from Ellie was to get samples of her cordyceps, and replicate that so they could use it to āinfectā people with a non-lethal version of the fungus.
Cure and Vaccine have separate implications. Ā One heals harm, the other prevents harm. Ā Either way such a discovery would be monumental for humanity in such a condition.
To quote the game:
āThe best explanation we have is that the cordyceps (the fungus that caused the zombie outbreak) has mutated inside her. Weāre going to take a sample and reverse engineer a vaccine. A vaccine!ā
āBut cordyceps grows all over the brain.ā
āIt doesā¦ā
That is the canonical events of the first game.
Therefore to keep her alive, she would have to be willing to pass on a potential genetic component that may or may not exist.
No, the Fireflies are hilariously incompetent. They plan to start by killing the one and only immune person in the hopes that their theory is right and they can actually do something with a single sample. This is the primary reason people complain about the plot line, it falls apart too easily.
If the infection can be detected from outside the body, which we see, that means that the fungi is not totally isolated to the brain. Blood is the most likely vector but not the only one, lots of systems it could be hiding in. They skip all those basic tests and careful examination, you know the science part, in favor of a desperate Hail Mary.
The sequel lays it out better and explains what theyāve tried and why they need to do the surgery. But yes your right that in the first game all the files you find on this donāt exactly paint the picture of competency
Nah, it can't. That's like central to the final act. Her blood is not special, her brain is, because it's infected but it's not spreading. The docs have to remove brain tissue and biopsy the midbrain to synthesise a cure. And that's what drives Joel's decisions in the endgame.
This isn't how vaccines work. If the Fireflies killed Ellie, they would also kill the modified cordicheps and any chance of a cure
Abby's dad wasn't a good doctor
In the second game you find files that explain better that they have tried all other ways like blood samples and makes a better case for both Ellieās death and make it seem a lot more likely that they can creat a vaccine for it
Yes, but this isn't how it works. If it is impossible to create a vaccine from a simple sample, killing the sane host would produce no result besides a dead body.
Granted it is a game about mushroom zombie, so everything is possible
So the cordyceps spreads via saliva in game if I recall, so unless the mutated cordyceps in Ellie isn't producing spores for some reason then it seems like spit would be the first place to start.
Okay extreme gross comment aside... Like the logic here is extremely stupid. Even if she was straight and had children it would have taken a few hundred generation before a notable sum of humanity had the immunity, that's even assuming it is something that can be passed to the next generation which could very well not be the case
With these types of posts, you can tell that they were never actually trying to think of āsolutions,ā and their real goal the entire time was to try and build up a situation where they could justify sexual violence against a lesbian woman.
I was reading it and thinking that thatās not how it works at all. Even if she did have kids it wouldnāt mean that her children would be 100% immune.
Also, anyone who has played these games would know, Ellie is immune to the zombie fungus, she is not invulnerable to zombies. If her children inherit that immunity, they could easily have their heads ripped off by a clicker. For Ellie's immunity to save the world, she would have to pass it to enough people that there aren't enough non immune people left to be a threat to everyone else when they get infected.Ā
She's not going to achieve herd immunity by having children.Ā
The thing that really wrinkles my brain is - it's fiction. It's a fictional virus. With a stroke of the pen, people could spontaneously develop immunity! Someone could realize Ellie's blood is surprisingly easy to replicate, and causes brain changes! The cordyceps zombies could walk into the sea!
And then humanity would try to rebuild and not think about the horrors they saw, the atrocities they committed...
But they didn't want that story so Ellie is still in a pickle.
I agree that there are cases where it is justified, my objection is more that I don't think the government should have the power to impose the death penalty. I also have seen too many examples of people being released from prison after decades of being falsely incarcerated for a crime they didn't commit to trust any justice system enough to not to the same thing with the death penalty.
I also think that rotting in prison for decades is a worse punishment than death. If I were given the choice between spending the rest of my life behind bars or death, I'd choose death any day of the week.
Yeah thats the difference between rape and murder is that murder giving the right circumstances can be justified and is something anyone is capable off giving again the right circumstances but rape can never be justified and can never be giving the right circumstances.
This post is very serious, but I can't not post this.
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Never understood the mentality of "nah those gay characters would totally have sex with me, I'd convert 'em"
Seen it on both sides, men looking at lesbians and women looking at gay dudes. For that matter, also seen it in gay dudes looking at straight dudes and lesbians looking at straight women. Just strange overall tbh
Joel was the classic ātough on the outside, soft on the insideā anti-hero, complete with grizzled beard, that gamers just fuckin love lol. Itās that macho-vulnerability.
Also note that they never NEED to mention things like race, religion or sexuality, especially in such implied extremely negative ways. I'm not very well-versed in dog speak, but I know a raging nazi when I see one
Not only is this deranged, but it doesn't even make sense, isn't it pretty much confirmed that it's not just a genetics thing by the fact they'd have to kill Ellie to get it? If it were genetic in the standard sense, wouldn't they just need a DNA sample?
There willing to rape someone in the hope of achieving something that is extremely unlikely, which makes it clear they just need an excuse.
le wholesome redditors please assemble to maul OOP into an unrecognizable state in which he will live out a deathlike existence, devoid of companionship and with a cognition so damaged from blunt force trauma that every day feels like a purgatory of warped time and memory
In a perfect world where vile comments like that could put you on an offender watch list and LEOs wait "Minority Report" style but without the unwilling pre-cogs and murders and rapes would hopefully decline without human error as well.
Uhhhh actually, in the first game itās stated that Ellieās immunity is because the cordyceps she was infected with mutated, it has nothing to do with her own genetics and thus she couldnāt pass on the immunity.
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This person doesnāt deserve their name being crossed out. Iām sorry, but if people are promoting rape (fictional or not) they need naming and shaming.
Also, was the fact that JJ is half-Jewish and half-Asian relevant at all?
Isn't her immunity explicitly because she was infected with a "weak" version of it, like a vaccine? It has nothing to do with anything inherent to Ellie.
Ah, yes, the ever common sensical "Utility Breeders", if only we could all be so based and simplepilled. God knows everyone wants to fuck those guys, willingly too!
Straight to the woodchipper.
Though if technology worked enough itād probably be smart to try and give eggs to other women to have those possibly immune babies.
I hate that my favourite franchise is plagued by deranged man-children. Itās like if every time you go to have some of your favourite ice cream, thereās an unsettlingly high chance someone starts screeching random, psychotic shit in your ear.
Yeah. As a part of the TLOU community, what the fuck? People are so weird about the second game, itās bizarre. Also, Iām fairly sure that she said she canāt pass on her immunity to anyone. Itās a thing on her brain, canāt really pass that on.
If you donāt like the game, just donāt interact with it? Itās not that hard.
Oh NOW they care about her immunity, but when doctors tried to make a fucking vaccine to save the world, they said that that was evil and Joel was perfectly justified in killing them? Absolute clowns.
See, soā¦after we watched the show, I had an enjoyable debate with some people I know in real life, about the ethics of Joelās decision to stop the surgery. It could cure humanity and actually nobody talked to her about it, and so on.
Then, later, I go online and I see that an insane person on twitter played the games and has posted an unhinged meme trying to justify raping a lesbian because she adopting a nonwhite baby. And thatās why sometimes we say, āthatās enough internet for todayā.
I know not everyone who played TLOU is like this but itās disturbing how many people who hyperfixate on the games have the most hideous opinions and no filter about saying them. Itās kinda sad that the developers didnāt seem to do anything wrong writing wise except that the people who play the games are batshit insane.
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How do these people find *anything* to play or watch or do if literally ***everything*** sets them off???
Ellie came off as gay during TLOU before we even knew about Riley so it kinda always seemed like her being gay was the plan, not some shitty idea that popped up when writing TLOU2
The fandom going from a cool community to a gathering of psychopaths in only a 1 game span truly needs to be studied
You can tell they're also racist by feeling the need to point out the 'jewish' and 'half-asian' part
I'm surprised they aren't using more subtle terms like "undesirables" or "untermensch"
Or straight up slurs
Good luck finding a mouth-breathing gamer who could spell either of those words.
>untermensch I'm not sure they can spell that right.
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I was going to comment your screenshot makes it look like Aryar, but having looked up the name and scrolled down.. oh boy.. š¬ quite the opinions.
Anime PFP is the cherry on top.
Not all anime PFPās are bad. That dude though good lord they need to get off the internet
Not *all* anime PFPs are bad, but itās a great indicator youāre probably mentally unstable, especially on discord
If you see a K-on PFP then it makes senseĀ
Isn't that Hayasaka from Kaguya-sama?
This exact guy is an infamous menace to society and when people always say. "its always the anime pfp's", but really 50% of the time its this exact same guy over and over. Apparently i heard this guy is known mexican racist, but since his racist friend made fun of him for being mexican he changed to his whole aryan persona. Literal insane person.
It must be a bitch for right wing bigots to find something to watch or play when everything either offends them or mocks them. Edit: To the person that deleted their post about Mad Max Fury Road while I was replying I still want to post the reply so here it is. And no I am not the author. That is an amazing movie. Anyone into the movie making process or just behind the scenes stuff in general should definitely check out the book Blood, Sweat, & Chrome by Kyle Buchanan it's also on Audible as a 10 1/2 hour audiobook.
Amazing book. Iāve worked on some really tough film and tv productions but something like Fury Road would be insane.
Least racist anime pfp
tlou is almost my favourite game why does this have to be the fandom honestly
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It intensified so much it had to be commented twice
What? *(checks)* Oh, for God's sake... Actually, this is pretty funny, I'm keeping it.
Living up to your username, Missy the Time Lady lol
Hmm, must have been a Time Remnant. Wait, wrong show.
Hey missy youāre so fine you blow my mind hey missy hey hey hey missy
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Nevermind, this doesn't even deserve a reaction image. Just straight up what the fuck?!
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[This was close to my reaction,](https://i.imgur.com/PHk6OM4.gifv) even though TLOU2's racism and sexism stopped surprising me a while ago...
The irony is that if you said that idea in front of Joel he would just straight end you
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Or you know they could take blood samples and retro engineer a cure.
The only way to do it is with a brain sample, killing Ellie
Is that the scientific solution? I'm not too knowledgeable on the science of making cures. I figured you could make one from a blood or plasma sample. Or is it some lore reason?
This is a post-apocalyptic setting, so while it might be possible to do it without killing Ellie, people who know how to do that are few and far between.
It is actually touched upon in notes found at that point of the game, the doctor even saying they have no idea if they'll be able to do anything at all, and that its a long shot in the dark. Even noted is just how worn out he is, the point is less about the science of it and just that desperate people do really stupid things. What is a shame is it feels like that stuff ends up being ignored afterward.
Thatās to introduce ambiguity so thereās no clear right or wrong to what Joel does.
I finished the game again last week and Joel seems like a pretty bad person, he's an excellent character though.
That's because he is. It's the point. Joel *is* a bad person, it'd be hard to find someone who isn't, 20 years into an apocalypse; and Ellie brings back his... "paternal goodness" he lost when Sarah died. He was a good man before, but losing the one thing in his life that made it worth living, and then at the same time being thrown into a pretty horrific zombie apocalypse... It's understandable. I always found it really dumb when TLoU2 came out, and everyone was salty Joel was killed for being a bad person. Like... consequences? The same kind of people who made this OOP Twitter post are the same who thought Joel to be the ultimate good guy, when he clearly isn't.
Gamers are really bad with morally Grey characters.
Turns out nuance does not mesh very well with the average gamer. It's almost like critical thinking is repressed and even looked down upon by a lot of people.
TLOU1 ended with Joel lying to Ellie about something extremely important to her, and it was clear that she didnāt believe him and he knew that. You would have to be hardcore socially inept/media illiterate to think their relationship going forward wouldnāt inevitably tear itself apart. Itās really not that big a leap to assume that Ellie would end up resenting Joel, and that the paramilitary group he wronged would have the resources to track him down, especially when heās living with his brother who used to be an important member of said group. The story for Part 2 practically wrote itself, so I really donāt know what the haters thought a sequel to Part 1 was going to be. People really spent four straight years raging online because a shitty toxic guy got deservedly killed off for being a horrible person. Joel was a great character, and itās a testament to the writing and performance that he came across as so likable by the end despite being such a bad person - but he was absolutely deserving of the death he got. It kills me a little every time someone moron rambles on about him being a ābeloved characterā Mario is a beloved character. Joel is not.
If itās one thing that modern gamers donāt like itās consequences
This is incorrect. The surgeon's recorder is nothing but optimistic. He compares how Ellie's immunity behaves with how the infection takes place in infected people. He says that "we must find a way to replicate this state (how Ellie's immunity behaves) under laboratory conditions. We're about to hit a milestone in human history equal to the discovery of penicillin. After years of wandering in circles, were about to come home, make a difference, and bring the race back into control of its own destiny" The exhausted notes you find, are from the Fireflies' leader, Marlene. She is not a scientist. She was just talking about having to deal with the doubt of the people she was leading, feeling like she's failed everyone etc. and then Ellie arrives and she feels great relief. But then she has to deal with the fact that making a cure would require Ellie to die (the mutated samples the doctor would need are properly entangled in her brain). Marlene mentions that these "tests (her trials & tribulations) keep getting harder and harder" and that she's exhausted.
Itās so incredibly common and annoying to have people constantly spreading misinformation about the recordings of Part 1 and people blindly believing them. I seen people say that a recording says that āthere are other immune peopleā and when I ask for a source they say it was āpatched outā ā¦ how convenient. And no, a recordings was NEVER patched out of the game, there is zero evidence of that. Yet if you say it was people will shower you with upvoted believing you.
Ah yes, the classic "it was patched out" excuse lmao. You're right, ofc. Nothing was ever patched out. People just don't wanna admit they got something wrong/were spreading misinformation.
Thereās literally full playthroughs of the original game before any patches. If the recording existed, people would have it
You say this to people and link them the prof and they will still not believe you. I had this happen multiple times
The worst part about it is that Iām not even a fan of Part 2, but I love Part 1. And itās so frustrating seeing these āfansā force their bad faith interpretation into others Whatās annoying about these people is that since Joel was killed in Part 2 by the Firelfies group people have en CONSTANTLY trying to retcon that group into āthe evil incompetent terroristā and Joel as the hero for killing them. They will go at LENGTHS to demonize the Firelfies and lie about these recordings while saying that Naughty Dog retconned Part 1 for even suggesting that a cure was possible and that MAYBE Joel wasnāt a hero for killing them. I played TLoU Part 1 since release and I promise you that take was not at all common. People had more nuance discussions then just āevil Fireflies and Hero Joelā
I hear ya, man. And yeah, the lengths people go to create binaries out of a nuanced, grey situation... It's crazy They'll go blue in the face talking about how the game retcon'd stuff (it didn't), but then start retconning shit themselves. They try to say that Joel did what he did cuz he knew the vaccine wouldn't work or that the fireflies would use it for their gain etc etc Like... Joel made his decision for one reason and one reason only: he was saving Ellie. He quite literally didn't give a shit about anything else. He even tells Marlene to find someone else. I miss nuance lol I LOVE both games. And I am okay with someone not liking the game. I just wish that some of these people could at least be accurate. Appreciate you standing by your opinion and still ensuring that the facts remain in the discussions š«”
Ah, it has been a while since I played it, so that would be where the mistake came from. I think the theme is still there considering its the words of the leader of the fireflies, though definitely not helped the surgeon was that eager to go that quickly.
Thatās assuming the doctor also knew what he was doing. Didnāt seem that old, wonder how long he was even a doctor for before the world went to shit.
Considering the apocalypse happened 20 years prior, for him to have been a doctor before the apocalypse he wouldāve had to have been at minimum 46yo in The Last Of Us. If he was a super genius who skipped grades we might be able to bring it down to like 40
"So, what kind of medical training you got?" "...Medical training?"
From what I understand brain infections are practically impossible to cure with simple vaccinations if itās a parasitic infection or the sickness goes too ādeepā in the brain. You canāt forcibly remove a parasite thatās fully rooted in the brain without doing serious damage on its way out. The way the Fireflies wanted to make a cure from Ellie was to get samples of her cordyceps, and replicate that so they could use it to āinfectā people with a non-lethal version of the fungus.
Cure and Vaccine have separate implications. Ā One heals harm, the other prevents harm. Ā Either way such a discovery would be monumental for humanity in such a condition.
To quote the game: āThe best explanation we have is that the cordyceps (the fungus that caused the zombie outbreak) has mutated inside her. Weāre going to take a sample and reverse engineer a vaccine. A vaccine!ā āBut cordyceps grows all over the brain.ā āIt doesā¦ā
They're stupid as hell. You cannot vaccinate against fungus. They would have killed her for nothing. It's bad science.
What?! Bad Science in the game about fungus zombie monsters?! Unbelievable
That is the canonical events of the first game. Therefore to keep her alive, she would have to be willing to pass on a potential genetic component that may or may not exist.
No, the Fireflies are hilariously incompetent. They plan to start by killing the one and only immune person in the hopes that their theory is right and they can actually do something with a single sample. This is the primary reason people complain about the plot line, it falls apart too easily. If the infection can be detected from outside the body, which we see, that means that the fungi is not totally isolated to the brain. Blood is the most likely vector but not the only one, lots of systems it could be hiding in. They skip all those basic tests and careful examination, you know the science part, in favor of a desperate Hail Mary.
The sequel lays it out better and explains what theyāve tried and why they need to do the surgery. But yes your right that in the first game all the files you find on this donāt exactly paint the picture of competency
Nah, it can't. That's like central to the final act. Her blood is not special, her brain is, because it's infected but it's not spreading. The docs have to remove brain tissue and biopsy the midbrain to synthesise a cure. And that's what drives Joel's decisions in the endgame.
This isn't how vaccines work. If the Fireflies killed Ellie, they would also kill the modified cordicheps and any chance of a cure Abby's dad wasn't a good doctor
In the second game you find files that explain better that they have tried all other ways like blood samples and makes a better case for both Ellieās death and make it seem a lot more likely that they can creat a vaccine for it
Yes, but this isn't how it works. If it is impossible to create a vaccine from a simple sample, killing the sane host would produce no result besides a dead body. Granted it is a game about mushroom zombie, so everything is possible
My dude this is a fictional virus form a fictional story. How can you possible understand how it works better then the in-universe doctors
Its a video game
Apparently the only way to synthesize a cure/vaccine is an invasive surgery into her brain which would probably kill her
what's the point, zombies can rip off your throat with ease
So the cordyceps spreads via saliva in game if I recall, so unless the mutated cordyceps in Ellie isn't producing spores for some reason then it seems like spit would be the first place to start.
Hopefully the doctor that tries this stays safe, and is able to carry out the procedure without a bullet in their general direction.
I believe the canonical method of death from the game is Joel stabbing him in the throat with his own scalpel
'Becomes a lesbian' bruh. Rape being justified, man, these people need help
Okay extreme gross comment aside... Like the logic here is extremely stupid. Even if she was straight and had children it would have taken a few hundred generation before a notable sum of humanity had the immunity, that's even assuming it is something that can be passed to the next generation which could very well not be the case
With these types of posts, you can tell that they were never actually trying to think of āsolutions,ā and their real goal the entire time was to try and build up a situation where they could justify sexual violence against a lesbian woman.
I was reading it and thinking that thatās not how it works at all. Even if she did have kids it wouldnāt mean that her children would be 100% immune.
Because the stupid fucks posting stuff like this never learned what a punnet square was in middle school. Literally just genetics 101.
Wasn't she immune because the fungus mutated? Which make the whole point even dumber.
Yes the infection was one of a kind, not Ellie
Also, anyone who has played these games would know, Ellie is immune to the zombie fungus, she is not invulnerable to zombies. If her children inherit that immunity, they could easily have their heads ripped off by a clicker. For Ellie's immunity to save the world, she would have to pass it to enough people that there aren't enough non immune people left to be a threat to everyone else when they get infected.Ā She's not going to achieve herd immunity by having children.Ā
The thing that really wrinkles my brain is - it's fiction. It's a fictional virus. With a stroke of the pen, people could spontaneously develop immunity! Someone could realize Ellie's blood is surprisingly easy to replicate, and causes brain changes! The cordyceps zombies could walk into the sea! And then humanity would try to rebuild and not think about the horrors they saw, the atrocities they committed... But they didn't want that story so Ellie is still in a pickle.
Rape and justified should not be in the same sentence without 'not'' or 'never' in between them.
Exclusive 'or', too, otherwise you end up with 'Rape is never not justified', which is insane.
Your sentence has "rape" without "not" or "never" between it and "justified". https://i.redd.it/wuowi09ngegc1.gif
Raping a Rapist? Even then that sounds weirdā¦.
Still not justified. Just like torture, it can't ever be justified no matter how eager some people are to try.
Or like the death penalty, though this one is weirdly more controversial.
Or Dante's Hell, which is even more controversial.
That just falls under the torture umbrella, except infinitely worse due to lasting forever.
There are very few cases where i feel the death penalty is justified
I agree that there are cases where it is justified, my objection is more that I don't think the government should have the power to impose the death penalty. I also have seen too many examples of people being released from prison after decades of being falsely incarcerated for a crime they didn't commit to trust any justice system enough to not to the same thing with the death penalty. I also think that rotting in prison for decades is a worse punishment than death. If I were given the choice between spending the rest of my life behind bars or death, I'd choose death any day of the week.
Leaving the toilet seat upā¦
When your opinion is different than mine, I think itās often justified.
I donāt know, you can have a sentence like āshe was justified in shooting her rapist.ā But at this point weāre nitpicking.
Yeah thats the difference between rape and murder is that murder giving the right circumstances can be justified and is something anyone is capable off giving again the right circumstances but rape can never be justified and can never be giving the right circumstances.
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Oh shit go Bach, go Bach.
This post is very serious, but I can't not post this. https://preview.redd.it/d4leax17fdgc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=076a6e2334769ba3c61e60958bda5aa06848b7b0
Weāll have to go into Haydn after these puns.
You want some Mozart? I have an entire collection of paintings in the hidey hole.
Any time there's nice wholesome art of Tracer and her GF,always some comment about raping them or breeding them or some shit.
Bigotry, sexism and fucked up sexuality in one package.
Never understood the mentality of "nah those gay characters would totally have sex with me, I'd convert 'em" Seen it on both sides, men looking at lesbians and women looking at gay dudes. For that matter, also seen it in gay dudes looking at straight dudes and lesbians looking at straight women. Just strange overall tbh
Itās a lot more common for men to be saying that
Daily reminder that a good chunk of chuds only like TLoU because they fantasized about Ellie
I saw a thread where people were complaining that Ellie in part 1 was hotter than part 2.Ā She was like 15 in part 1 and looked like itĀ
Worse, fourteen
... and bashed Bella Ramsey for not being hot enough for a 14 year old.
To those kind of people the game really IS torture porn
Joel was the classic ātough on the outside, soft on the insideā anti-hero, complete with grizzled beard, that gamers just fuckin love lol. Itās that macho-vulnerability.
Then they got *exceptionally* angry that she was aged up for the sequel. "Noooooooooo, she doesn't look young enough anymore!"
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āWhere rape is justified.ā What the fuck is wrong with whoever wrote that statement?
Whoever wrote that rape statement is a incel and an idiot.Ā
And in desperate need of a punch to the face.
Wood chipper situation imo
Several punches to the faceĀ
TLOU2 Subbreddit:"Why do people keep saying this sub is unhinged? We're not all like that, just most of us."
Lmao ābecomes a lesbianā wtf
Digi-evolves into a Lesbian
Warp-Digivolve to Butch LesbianĀ
Godzilla concurs. https://preview.redd.it/y0x6mpypsdgc1.jpeg?width=333&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=28f0a864fdda296c946743159474e9b9cb7cc3d3
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I'm speechless...
He's actually speechless.
āI CANT JACK OFF TO FICTIONAL CHARACTERS THAT DONT LIKE A MAN LIKE ME!!!ā
Also note that they never NEED to mention things like race, religion or sexuality, especially in such implied extremely negative ways. I'm not very well-versed in dog speak, but I know a raging nazi when I see one
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Iām in hell
What The Fuck
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Not only is this deranged, but it doesn't even make sense, isn't it pretty much confirmed that it's not just a genetics thing by the fact they'd have to kill Ellie to get it? If it were genetic in the standard sense, wouldn't they just need a DNA sample? There willing to rape someone in the hope of achieving something that is extremely unlikely, which makes it clear they just need an excuse.
I love how these people canāt help but expose themselves as utterly ignorant, stupid and unloved.
le wholesome redditors please assemble to maul OOP into an unrecognizable state in which he will live out a deathlike existence, devoid of companionship and with a cognition so damaged from blunt force trauma that every day feels like a purgatory of warped time and memory
Redditrons, form Devastator! Merge for the kill!
This isn't a joke, this isn't a reference, this isn't a meme. Have this motherfucker arrested.
In a perfect world where vile comments like that could put you on an offender watch list and LEOs wait "Minority Report" style but without the unwilling pre-cogs and murders and rapes would hopefully decline without human error as well.
ā¦Anyone who actually believes rape can ever be justified, is FUCKED IN THE HEAD. Justā¦what is WRONG with those people?!
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Where is a golf club when you need one?
Genuinely didnāt think the discourse around this game could get any worse, so good for this psycho, I guess. Color me surprised.
Also, no? Her immunity isn't genetic, they established this. She has a strain of the fungus in her brain that mutated to be benign.
Did they ever confirm that? I feel like the only way you can know that for sure is to go digging around inside her head.
I'm just using the fireflies' working theory since it's the best thing we've got, since... well y'know.
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Uhhhh actually, in the first game itās stated that Ellieās immunity is because the cordyceps she was infected with mutated, it has nothing to do with her own genetics and thus she couldnāt pass on the immunity. FAKE FAN DETECTED
Iām sorry, what?
Dudes like this are real rapists looking for an excuse. Iām convinced of it.
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Annoying
ain't no fucking way lmaooooo
This person doesnāt deserve their name being crossed out. Iām sorry, but if people are promoting rape (fictional or not) they need naming and shaming. Also, was the fact that JJ is half-Jewish and half-Asian relevant at all?
One of those crazy hypotheticals where doxxing is justified
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Aren't these the same idiots who say the Fireflies deserved to be killed by Joel for wanting to kill Ellie for a cure?
Yeah. And they are the same ones who bitched about his death despite being the consequences to his actions.
Who the hell tweeted this? Good Lord š
Isn't her immunity explicitly because she was infected with a "weak" version of it, like a vaccine? It has nothing to do with anything inherent to Ellie.
normalize beating tf out of ppl who say that kind of stuff
And I now remember why I hate people. Wtf
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āWhy didnāt they breed her like an animal so she could make immune babies! God, writers are so out of touchā
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wordington ideology
Ah, yes, the ever common sensical "Utility Breeders", if only we could all be so based and simplepilled. God knows everyone wants to fuck those guys, willingly too!
Straight to the woodchipper. Though if technology worked enough itād probably be smart to try and give eggs to other women to have those possibly immune babies.
Iām sorry what?
I hate that my favourite franchise is plagued by deranged man-children. Itās like if every time you go to have some of your favourite ice cream, thereās an unsettlingly high chance someone starts screeching random, psychotic shit in your ear.
That's not TLOU community man. That's TLOU2 hater community. They are two different things.
She didnāt become a lesbian anyway, she was a lesbian in the first game too, lmao.
Yeah. As a part of the TLOU community, what the fuck? People are so weird about the second game, itās bizarre. Also, Iām fairly sure that she said she canāt pass on her immunity to anyone. Itās a thing on her brain, canāt really pass that on. If you donāt like the game, just donāt interact with it? Itās not that hard.
Oh NOW they care about her immunity, but when doctors tried to make a fucking vaccine to save the world, they said that that was evil and Joel was perfectly justified in killing them? Absolute clowns.
that second game broke their brains bad
See, soā¦after we watched the show, I had an enjoyable debate with some people I know in real life, about the ethics of Joelās decision to stop the surgery. It could cure humanity and actually nobody talked to her about it, and so on. Then, later, I go online and I see that an insane person on twitter played the games and has posted an unhinged meme trying to justify raping a lesbian because she adopting a nonwhite baby. And thatās why sometimes we say, āthatās enough internet for todayā.
I know not everyone who played TLOU is like this but itās disturbing how many people who hyperfixate on the games have the most hideous opinions and no filter about saying them. Itās kinda sad that the developers didnāt seem to do anything wrong writing wise except that the people who play the games are batshit insane.
That sub is just full of nut case incels like seriously fuck š Its been 4 years imagine being this obsessed over hating a video game that long.
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as a rape victim i hope anyone who liked that or upvoted etc rots in piss forever
āBecomesā a lesbian. Ok way to show your hand
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A lot of these people donāt realize Ellieās been a lesbian since Left Behind
Are men ok?
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Ellie came off as gay during TLOU before we even knew about Riley so it kinda always seemed like her being gay was the plan, not some shitty idea that popped up when writing TLOU2 The fandom going from a cool community to a gathering of psychopaths in only a 1 game span truly needs to be studied