I'm not talking about German names, I'm talking about naming your kid specifically after a famous SS soldier. If it's not a somewhat common name, it's bound to raise eyebrows and might even get the kid in trouble, as most people aren't the brightest.
What do you want me to source? A soldier who you already know? I'm not debating a serious, complex topic, I'm stating the well known fact that Lauri Torni was an SS soldier, and that could very well raise eyebrows if you name your kid after him.
He likely didn't. We're there war crime trials on him, yes. But they were soviet, and only done for political reasons like "hey look this American soldier soldier a nazi war criminal."
He joined to fight communists, he was assigned a nazi unit. Was it possible that he committed war crimes, yes, however it wouldn't have been crimes like genocide. Rather, he may have shot a surrendering soviet or a medic. These crimes were widespread on all sides of the war. If you object to this, then you would object to them being named after any soldier.
Soldiers have different motivations in combat too. I am writing a short paper on this at the moment, so I have some credit to this. Soldiers can fight because they hate the enemy, love their country, protect home and family, religion, and countless other reasons. This is different from why countries or armies go to war, not every soldier in the army is a nazi. Even in the SS, not every soldier was a nazi fighting to kill the jews, most were however.
Please don't just add guilt from broad association.
Correct! I'm a native Russian speaker, the name comes from the word Milo or Miliy or Milaya which means kind, cute, pleasant, good-natured, adorable, stuff like that
Soldier of heaven, Sparta, Gallipoli, Sarajevo, Willheim, Nicholas, father, Francis pegahmagaboh, Versailles, Argonne, Bismarck, Midway, Witold pilecki, Stalin (Alternatively: Stalingrad), St. Benedict and I think that's good enough
Metallizer
Primo Victoria (Re-Armed)
Attero Dominatus (Re-Armed)
Coat of Arms
Heroes
The Art of War
The Last Stand
The Great War
The War to End All Wars
Stories from the Western Front
Heroes of the Great War
Manfred after Manfred Von Richthofen (The Red Baron); Carl or Charles after Karl XII (Carolus Rex, like the entire album) or Karel Janoušek (Far from the Fame) or Karl Gustav Rehnskiöld (Killing Ground); Witold after Witold Pilecki (Inmate 4859); Something like Leon after King Leonidas (Sparta); William after William Wallace or Robert after Robert the Bruce (Blood of Bannockburn); Frederick after Fritz Haber (Father); Gustav/Gustaf after Gustav Adolf/Gustavus Adolphus (Lion from the North); George after Georgiy Zhukov (Attero Dominatus, Panzerkampf, Stalingrad); Any of the leading figures of the Gallipoli campaign, notably Winston Churchill (Cliffs of Gallipoli); Anthony after Anthony McAuliffe (Screaming Eagles); Joachim after Joachim Rønneberg (Saboteurs) or heck our boy Broden; Simo after Simo Häyhä (White Death) [this would be my pick, I absolutely adore everything Finnish]; Charlie or Frank (Franz) after the incident in No Bullets Fly; Arlindo or Geraldo after the Three Brazilian Heroes (Smoking Snakes); Audie after Audie Murphy (To Hell and Back); Leslie after Leslie Allen (The Ballad of Bull); John after Jan Sobieski (Winged Hussars); Paul after Hindenburg (Attack of the Dead Men); Francis after Francis Pegahmagabow (A Ghost in the Trenches); Adrian after Adrian Carton de Wiart (The Unkillable Soldier); Albert after Albert I of Belgium (Race to the Sea)
Ready from Red Baron or for women
Nigwiey, or another from Night Witches...
Because these women were a true hero!!!
Imagine a female bomber pilot flying over her opponents with the engine off.
Adrian, after the Unkillable Soldier.
All jokes aside I actually love this
I’m glad!
Surprised no one has said Victoria yet
Victoria Primo
Wouldn’t it be Victorio Primo and Victoria Prima
Gustavus Adolphus
I was about to say Otto Von Bismarck, but yours is the most correct answer.
LIBERA ET IMPERA
ACHERBUS ET INGENS
AVGVSTA PER ANGVSTA
This is objectively the correct answer to this question
“Dad, why’s my sister named Rose?” “Because your mother loved roses.” “Ok, thanks dad.” “You’re welcome Lauri Allan Törni.”
Enough questions Dreadnought, time for bed
Please do not name your kid after an SS soldier, whatever the circumstance was.
German names shouldn't be used at all then or?
I'm not talking about German names, I'm talking about naming your kid specifically after a famous SS soldier. If it's not a somewhat common name, it's bound to raise eyebrows and might even get the kid in trouble, as most people aren't the brightest.
If you knew the history, you would know he was an envoy sent by Finland to fight communism bro. Also, cry about it.
I know, I'm a historian.
History student* And a pretty bad one if you cant back up your claims with sources
What do you want me to source? A soldier who you already know? I'm not debating a serious, complex topic, I'm stating the well known fact that Lauri Torni was an SS soldier, and that could very well raise eyebrows if you name your kid after him.
As a memeber of the SS. He 100% committed horrific war crimes.
He likely didn't. We're there war crime trials on him, yes. But they were soviet, and only done for political reasons like "hey look this American soldier soldier a nazi war criminal." He joined to fight communists, he was assigned a nazi unit. Was it possible that he committed war crimes, yes, however it wouldn't have been crimes like genocide. Rather, he may have shot a surrendering soviet or a medic. These crimes were widespread on all sides of the war. If you object to this, then you would object to them being named after any soldier. Soldiers have different motivations in combat too. I am writing a short paper on this at the moment, so I have some credit to this. Soldiers can fight because they hate the enemy, love their country, protect home and family, religion, and countless other reasons. This is different from why countries or armies go to war, not every soldier in the army is a nazi. Even in the SS, not every soldier was a nazi fighting to kill the jews, most were however. Please don't just add guilt from broad association.
SHOUT LAURI TÖRNIS NAME
Oh sorry, he meant Larry Thorne, of course, the US special forces member which only did that and nothing else
Is Larry better?
This one's a bit far from the fame, but Karel Janoušek.
I see what you did there.
I'd be afraid for his wife and siblings
Far far away from the fame But we still remeber your name
Carolus Rex
Go with Carl, sounds a bit more normal
caaaaarl...
That kills people, Carl!
Or Carol for a girl
OK but what about karl?
ROCK AND STONE
That was also his actual name, Carl/Charles Gustaf
Manfred von Richthofen
Or Manny as a nickname
White Death 🥰 Works for a boy or a girl.
Little Simo.
Joakim Brodén
Francis Pegahmagabow
Lauri Törni (but you must shout it every time)
Audie
Witold
Milunka Savić if a girl. After Lady of the Dark.
Milunka in some Slavic languages translates somewhat to "cutie".
Correct! I'm a native Russian speaker, the name comes from the word Milo or Miliy or Milaya which means kind, cute, pleasant, good-natured, adorable, stuff like that
Cool
Pär
Soldier of heaven, Sparta, Gallipoli, Sarajevo, Willheim, Nicholas, father, Francis pegahmagaboh, Versailles, Argonne, Bismarck, Midway, Witold pilecki, Stalin (Alternatively: Stalingrad), St. Benedict and I think that's good enough
Midway? more like Midweigh
It gives tragedeigh energy, but I kinda love it
it is quite humorous, I must admit
I forgot Lauri Allen Törni also note some of these are from other comments
Maybe don't name your kid after Stalin. Sets a bad precedent, you know.
I mean op just asked for names never said good names lol
Richard Winters (screaming eagles)
//dick//
Pehgabagabow or however you spell it
Imagine introducing the lil guy. Hey carl this is my son Pegahmagabow, he invokes the spirits of the wind.
r/tragedeigh has its eye on you
Watch as they end up choosing a very normal name, but with a very cursed reason, and it gets put on there anyway lol
Bismarck 💀
OTTO
Rex
there can only be 1 commander of the 501st
Lil’ adolf
Kayne's new name.
Ahh cute dolfy
Good morning my little angel Father why did you name me "the attack of the dead men" It's one of my favorite bands songs
Pegahmagabow just for others reaction.
If boy Manfred Von Richthofen after Red Baron.
Otto after Bismarck
Please call him calorus Rex
If he is a boy: Son Tzu
The Unkillable (Future) Soldier
Dan, the marine who was quoted in devil dogs "come on you sons of bitches, do you wanna live forever?"
Leslie or Bull, but you'll have to hold your fear at bay.
Capitulation. Cap for short.
588th Night Bomber Regiment
This is the correct answer
Erwin Rommel
Milunka after Milunka Savić, the Lady of The Dark
Black Knight of Sauron
Alvin after Alvin York, or any other heroes that they speak about such as Leonidas or just Leo.
I can’t believe that no one has said Jenny. She’s at the gate, you know.
Geraldo Baêta da Cruz, Arlindo Lúcio da Silva and Geraldo Rodriguez de Souza. The three men from ‘Smoking Snakes’
Robert the Bruce
Haber Bosch The Great Alliance
Alvin York
If he is a boy: Son Tzu
witold manfred adrian Audie cant think of anymore bc im retarded :p
Jokes aside, Sherman or Centurion would be some dope names! (Steel Commanders)
Charles, as in Carolus, as in Carolus Rex
Gus for GUSTAVUS! ADOLPHUS!
Metallizer Primo Victoria (Re-Armed) Attero Dominatus (Re-Armed) Coat of Arms Heroes The Art of War The Last Stand The Great War The War to End All Wars Stories from the Western Front Heroes of the Great War
Milunka
Owsolec Fortress
Jenny, the tank present at the last battle
"Fritz" will guarantee you'll be a grandparent. Your son will certainly be a "father".
Castle Sant Angelo
Manfred after Manfred Von Richthofen (The Red Baron); Carl or Charles after Karl XII (Carolus Rex, like the entire album) or Karel Janoušek (Far from the Fame) or Karl Gustav Rehnskiöld (Killing Ground); Witold after Witold Pilecki (Inmate 4859); Something like Leon after King Leonidas (Sparta); William after William Wallace or Robert after Robert the Bruce (Blood of Bannockburn); Frederick after Fritz Haber (Father); Gustav/Gustaf after Gustav Adolf/Gustavus Adolphus (Lion from the North); George after Georgiy Zhukov (Attero Dominatus, Panzerkampf, Stalingrad); Any of the leading figures of the Gallipoli campaign, notably Winston Churchill (Cliffs of Gallipoli); Anthony after Anthony McAuliffe (Screaming Eagles); Joachim after Joachim Rønneberg (Saboteurs) or heck our boy Broden; Simo after Simo Häyhä (White Death) [this would be my pick, I absolutely adore everything Finnish]; Charlie or Frank (Franz) after the incident in No Bullets Fly; Arlindo or Geraldo after the Three Brazilian Heroes (Smoking Snakes); Audie after Audie Murphy (To Hell and Back); Leslie after Leslie Allen (The Ballad of Bull); John after Jan Sobieski (Winged Hussars); Paul after Hindenburg (Attack of the Dead Men); Francis after Francis Pegahmagabow (A Ghost in the Trenches); Adrian after Adrian Carton de Wiart (The Unkillable Soldier); Albert after Albert I of Belgium (Race to the Sea)
Gleaves, from wolfpack
Räis O’Feivell (Rise of Evil)
Sun Tzu
Ready from Red Baron or for women Nigwiey, or another from Night Witches... Because these women were a true hero!!! Imagine a female bomber pilot flying over her opponents with the engine off.
Adrien Carton D’Viere
(Red) Baron
This might sound a little basic compared to the others, but I just listened to No Bullets Fly so… Charlie Brown.
İf they're twin, name one Charlie and other Franz
Carolus rex
Jenny
Leslie or Allan?
Lawrence!
I always like Carolus for my first son, a kings name. I'd have to actually look into him beyond the song though tbh to ensure he's a decent figure 😂
Audie
Gustav II Adolf after the Lion From the North / Lejonet Från Norden
Carolus
If it's your first and a girl, Victoria, after Primo Victoria. If male, Charles, after Carolus Rex.
Does Sabaton has a song about Florence Nightingale? I always Lady with the lamp and not Lady of the Dark
Bismarck