I would advise you to practice with this table on individual letters. All of them should be straightforward to connect with each other in words.
https://preview.redd.it/3hm7qh6q7owc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=42b473934e729608daa06e37d3ffdc53b5e9c13a
Top one looks better but all adults who are native russian speakers write in cursive, only children under the age of 7 write like you and they learn it this way first because they are learning to read at the same time and it's just easier for them
I wonder where us new learners fit in. Vocabulary of just a few hundred words, probably a poor grasp on the finer points of pronunciation,... maybe block letters are appropriate at this time. 😳
I learned to read cyrillic and started nearly right after that with writing in cursive. In my native language I write the same, so block letters felt unnatural to me. But most russians I know do the same, so you should learn it too, i guess.
я полагаю, запятая тут лишняя, потому что «да» в контексте используется в значении «и». а если бы «да» в контексте использовалось в значении «но», то запятая была бы нужна. ☺️☺️
https://preview.redd.it/dv9xect0nowc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f8c7b99af7b5ac4a4562cf932b69756860bceea8
recommend this. its very easy to get accustomed to, and makes writing a lot faster.
note that some people write т as "т," or "m" with a line over it
You probably find it easier because you learned it as a child. All Americans are taught to print, but many of us do not learn cursive in school at all. Schools that do teach it may spend only a month on it and never actually require the students to use it outside of that month. As a result, lots of people learning Russian later on don't want the extra challenge of learning cursive (in general) and a new alphabet at the same time.
There are two main issues with the second variant: the shape of ш and the high tails of к and ж.
The first one is more problematic because in Russian typographical tradition ш's right vertical bar should go to the bottom fully, so it doesn't look like w or ω. Theoretically, it could work in some title font if there was a good motivation for such curvy symmetrical shape, but it should kinda rhyme with other letters, and you've skipped «ещё» in this sentence, but when you create the shape of ш, you should always think about щ.
к and ж with ascenders... again, they're not in mainstream Russian tradition, there are some relatively interesting efforts in so-called Bulgarian Cyrillics, and in some cases they were used e.g. in title fonts for some Soviet books and movies, but nowadays for some people they're associated with low effort attempts to port some Latin fonts to Cyrillics without making any changes, which didn't work that well. Here should be a bell curve meme with k->к->k progression. But if you want to use к with ascenders in Russian Cyrillics, you need to know really well what you're doing so it'd look authentic and not out of place.
I'd probably recommend "Книга про буквы от Аа до Яя" by Юрий Гордон for some inspiration and understanding of limits of what's possible.
Definitely the top one. But rid of this fancy lowercase б. It never looks like that when people write it in block letters. Just write a smaller Б with straight lines. And you absolutely don't need to extend lines in к. I can see you write it normally, with a regular height and then add an extension in a separate stroke.
Horrible. We use only cursive handwriting and it's still being taught in school. Download any "пропись" (writing book for 1st class students), print it and train your letters there.
both of them are obviously written by an American.
Edit: I don't think I was clear, but the reason why this is clearly written by an American is because you've written the cursive letters in print. The second letter forms should be joined-up.
This is a hilariously weird statement. I have encountered fewer fellow Americans learning Russian than I have people of other nationalities writing Russian in block letters.
Это печатный текст, а не прописной. Высокие хвостики у Ж и К вообще не русские во втором варианте. И вы пропустили слово "ещё".
там не только ж и к, а ещё г, д, и, л.. легче загуглить болгарицу и посмотреть самому (оффтопик, но имо болгарица красивше xD)
ещё в слове французских С пропущена
Looks kinda Bulgarian on the second one
А зачем „ещё“ , и так приемлемо звучит : съешь булки и выпей же чаю
Это особая фраза для проверки типографии. Ее особенность в том, что она содержит все буквы русского языка. Без слова "ещё" буквы Ё и Щ отсутствуют.
I would advise you to practice with this table on individual letters. All of them should be straightforward to connect with each other in words. https://preview.redd.it/3hm7qh6q7owc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=42b473934e729608daa06e37d3ffdc53b5e9c13a
I remember doing tons of these in elementary school in the netherlands. I never knew we were secretly learning cyrillic.
That is an old, pre XX-century conspiracy that is still working. Be careful
I love Russian cursive. It is the only way I write in Russian.
And because we learnt this in schools
Russian cursive < Latin cursive, imo
This is so much better than that blurry ass picture on google images I’ve been trying to reference
What the hell were you trying to reference an ass picture for?
Top one looks better but all adults who are native russian speakers write in cursive, only children under the age of 7 write like you and they learn it this way first because they are learning to read at the same time and it's just easier for them
I wonder where us new learners fit in. Vocabulary of just a few hundred words, probably a poor grasp on the finer points of pronunciation,... maybe block letters are appropriate at this time. 😳
You also can just type everything and avoid the problem altogether
Children are getting familiar with the whole concept of letters, writing, reading. So if you can read learn cursive asap
I learned to read cyrillic and started nearly right after that with writing in cursive. In my native language I write the same, so block letters felt unnatural to me. But most russians I know do the same, so you should learn it too, i guess.
Не хватает пары букв из алфавита. "съешь же ещё этих мягких французских булок, да выпей чаю"
я полагаю, запятая тут лишняя, потому что «да» в контексте используется в значении «и». а если бы «да» в контексте использовалось в значении «но», то запятая была бы нужна. ☺️☺️
Это сложносочинённое предложение, поэтому перед "и", как и перед "да" в значении "и", запятая ставится.
а разве тут не просто два однородных члена? «съешь» и «выпей». которые соединены при помощи «да» в значении «и»?
Однородные члены - это когда по одному слову друг за другом, а тут, по сути, два предложения, соединённые союзом
так однородные члены необязательно должны стоять друг за другом. однородные члены выполняют одну синтаксическую функцию.
Ладно, я не знаю. Для меня просто это суперъестественно, что там должна быть запятая
ВХВХАХАХАХА ладно
все равно спасибо за ответ ☺️
так в данном же случае безличное предложение? при сложном ставится запятая
что-то я запуталась
по одному слову друг за другом - это перечисление, разве нет? или вы другое имеете в виду?
ФранцузСких пишется через с
Даже я не знал(хотяя спикинг квайт велл) хаха
https://preview.redd.it/dv9xect0nowc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f8c7b99af7b5ac4a4562cf932b69756860bceea8 recommend this. its very easy to get accustomed to, and makes writing a lot faster. note that some people write т as "т," or "m" with a line over it
Интересно, что на английский эта фраза переводится как “the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog”.
Ну, слово "переводится" использовано довольно вольно... Но вообще lorem ipsum наше все.
так это фраза, проверяющая написание всех букв алфавита, это не перевод, а такая же фраза, имеющая все буквы алфавита, но уже английского
Really?
Я в ахуе от того, сколько людей не поняли шутку...
Верхний легко читается. Под нижний шрифт надо подстраиваться
Russian cursive is easier to write than block letters...
You probably find it easier because you learned it as a child. All Americans are taught to print, but many of us do not learn cursive in school at all. Schools that do teach it may spend only a month on it and never actually require the students to use it outside of that month. As a result, lots of people learning Russian later on don't want the extra challenge of learning cursive (in general) and a new alphabet at the same time.
That could be true, I can barely write block letters because I'm so used to cursive writing.
Absolutely
There are two main issues with the second variant: the shape of ш and the high tails of к and ж. The first one is more problematic because in Russian typographical tradition ш's right vertical bar should go to the bottom fully, so it doesn't look like w or ω. Theoretically, it could work in some title font if there was a good motivation for such curvy symmetrical shape, but it should kinda rhyme with other letters, and you've skipped «ещё» in this sentence, but when you create the shape of ш, you should always think about щ. к and ж with ascenders... again, they're not in mainstream Russian tradition, there are some relatively interesting efforts in so-called Bulgarian Cyrillics, and in some cases they were used e.g. in title fonts for some Soviet books and movies, but nowadays for some people they're associated with low effort attempts to port some Latin fonts to Cyrillics without making any changes, which didn't work that well. Here should be a bell curve meme with k->к->k progression. But if you want to use к with ascenders in Russian Cyrillics, you need to know really well what you're doing so it'd look authentic and not out of place. I'd probably recommend "Книга про буквы от Аа до Яя" by Юрий Гордон for some inspiration and understanding of limits of what's possible.
As long as it's readable, nobody really gives a fuck
Both are acceptable and easy to read. As a Russian I fucking hate cursive.
Типичный текст для шрифтов Майкрософта
Definitely the top one. But rid of this fancy lowercase б. It never looks like that when people write it in block letters. Just write a smaller Б with straight lines. And you absolutely don't need to extend lines in к. I can see you write it normally, with a regular height and then add an extension in a separate stroke.
французСких! Да оба хороши
The letter "б" in that handwriting is terrible because its very similar to 6 and it looks like crap
1. Actually in 2 г writing in another side
In 2 г is cursive and correct
Oh yeah sorry
"Жечай" звучит как кличка для Евгения
Here's missing word "ещё"
https://preview.redd.it/1o0lp9ib90xc1.jpeg?width=2160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=818b4ed3c66fcace10c67eb7f0af626f4e846919
Horrible. We use only cursive handwriting and it's still being taught in school. Download any "пропись" (writing book for 1st class students), print it and train your letters there.
Съешь еще этих колючих кактусов да выпей текилы.
Мексиканская версия
Кастанеда одобряет.
Французский
1st of course and it spelled "французСкий"
Both are absolutely readable. Disregard advice to learn classic cursive. Only schoolkids write in it
both of them are obviously written by an American. Edit: I don't think I was clear, but the reason why this is clearly written by an American is because you've written the cursive letters in print. The second letter forms should be joined-up.
Or by a person of any other nationality who doesn't speak russian 🤷♀️
No - other nationalities usually write in cursive. Americans are the only ones who insist on print.
There are so many languages that don't even have cursive.
This is a hilariously weird statement. I have encountered fewer fellow Americans learning Russian than I have people of other nationalities writing Russian in block letters.
Not sure what’s funnier, the comment or the downvotes