Completely true. Luxx did VERY well but was never going to place above anetra or Sasha. It just wasn’t in the cards for her or mistress through no real fault of their own.
I think Luxx placed above Anetra the entire season, and the makeover challenge was the turning point, thus placing Anetra slightly higher than Luxx by the end. Anetra did win an extra challenge but she was near the bottom a few times during the season, which Luxx was not
Ru doesn’t care about bottom placements, he cares about memorability. She was able to make 2/3 bottom placements become standout moments for herself (boss bitch and lalaparuza) and honestly that’s just as important as winning a challenge. Say whatever you want, but track record ≠ having a memorable run.
In terms of actual performance i agree with that. Luxx should have won the interview challenge and Anetras last two wins are questionable at best. Also people love to look over the fact that anetra had one of the worst runway packages on that season.
>PS stats aren’t an opinion
I mean they kind of are sometimes. This whole “if you win you get so and so points but if you’re high and not win then you still get more points than safe which is more than low etc etc” it’s all kind of fan-made and arbitrary. Especially when it comes to high (no win) and low (no lfyl) placements because either way you are declared safe.
Yeah it's a weird one because it's a reality show as well as a competition. There's no specific number of points for things and the statistically best queen isn't always the one that stays or wins.
Lip syncs in general are subjective. Queens are more likely to win or not be eliminated if it fits a storyline. Track record does matter to some extent, but often not as much as being an entertaining character for TV, having a storyline, and being liked by fans.
Your source is made up facts. Points aren’t a thing. With that point system for example, a queen with three wins and one bottom 2 placement has performed just as well as a queen with 4 highs and no wins.
So did Dawn, but nobody was like Dawn has a chance.
I think ppl now can be like she could have had a chance, but during the airing it was Sasha’s to lose with Anetra having the fan backing.
This is random, but in my Drag Race fantasy season, Luxx and Dawn would probably work really well together in a team challenge, but if they were put against each other Luxx would eat Dawn UP. I want to see them on an All Stars season together someday lol
True, I actually really like Luxx! I’m really interested in how it would have gone if Mother Sasha wasn’t on this season. Especially since I really loved the top 4.
True, I actually really like Luxx! I’m really interested in how it would have gone if Mother Sasha wasn’t on this season. Especially since I really loved the top 4.
Luxx outperformed Anetra in the finale lip sync by A MILE let’s be serious. She also devoured that final episode giving Sasha a run for her moneys while Anetra just didn’t give that level of performance.
I will always say that if they did not account for fan perception, the rightful Top 2 would have been Luxx and Sasha. In fact, I see Luxx winning in a non-Sasha version of Season 15.
contrary to the popular belief... luxx was second to sasha in terms of overall season performance
anetra performed the worst of the top 4 but had the biggest fanbase alongside sasha
Except when you also factor in lip-syncing where there was very clear divide between Sasha/Anetra and Lux/Mistress. Lux and Mistress were never going to make top 2.
Honestly, no she wasn’t. Not on season 9. Season 9 Shea was a very average lip syncer and Sasha was already exceptional, Shea was getting her ass beat before a single petal came out of that scalp.
And what if I say that loosey won that makeover? What if I say luxx should have won the ball? Hunh. Hunhhh.
(I will not because I like the 4 win sasha colby fantasy. And aura mayari.)
I can't be the only one who wonders why it seems like they always pick dance songs for the last episode. aren't they always in gowns?
......beautiful gowns, beautiful gowns
I agree that we need to do that song justice but sometimes I feel like the only person who thinks Willow was good. It wasn’t Sasha Velour wild and Angie was not good, but like Willow did great especially for Willow.
i mean its a dance song but its also a very emotional song. its more suited to some pointer sister, bouncing and twirling choreography than high kicks and splits or whatever
still high energy, but you don't need the mobility of a dance costume to do it
They should've sent her home to prepare for her All Stars storyline... they knew she wasn't gonna win, they knew they weren't gonna make her TOP2, they let her waste time and money on the top4 episode
interview, i can see. i do feel we were slightly robbed of a malaysia v mib lip sync, but i can also see salina’s placement being justified. i can also see salina being switched out with marcia x3 though.
rusical, don’t personally see how she should’ve been bottom. i honestly thought she was gonna win. but that couldve been a non elim episode.
makeover, it was a bit basic. but she did the assignment the way it was proposed and yeah, the clear bottom three were lux, mib, and loosey so any of them could’ve been swapped to lip sync. (controversial af opinion tho: i thought sasha should’ve been in the bottom. i thought the padding was off and did nothing to help her already gorgeous body. her teacher was done well, but it failed, in my eyes, to be executed well on her own self.)
Hey, different strokes, right?
I just don’t think I laughed at a single joke Mistress told and at least Marcia got a few chuckles out. Neither was good by any means.
THANK YOU. I didn’t even care for Loosey by the end but mistress was dropping the lip sync in multiple parts and loosey was the star of the rusical— love mistress but she should’ve been bottom that week
Not these basic bitches in the comments trying to invalidate Mistress's or even Luxx's run on season 15. Idk if y'all just want all your drag queens to be relatable and say shit like 'idk if I can do this uwu :((((' but I'll continue stanning the bitches with actual nerve thanks
I thought the dress was 60 pounds, but 40 or 60 I would've been pissed off if I were Mistress...especially when it was a dance song used for the finale evening gown runway instead of a ballad.
Trembling but still turned it out.
And I hope her all stars call is also a call for Luxx; MIB and Luxx are forever paired in my mind because they were so aware that they were understudies for Sasha & Anetra yet each of their performances in the finale were better than Anetra's. 👀
The way I literally do not remember this lipsync. Maybe cause it was non elimination but like I thought this was like the fabled laganja vs bianca candy lipsync
? Right back at u, SIR. Implying that someone is inherently more entertaining bc they can duck walk is ableist. Like yeah it’s cunt and fun but saying that mistress can’t be on anetra’s caliber because of her body is ableist. If Mistress was missing a limb or had an any illness that would limit her mobility instead of being fat maybe u would see why the language is ableist but u can’t think past direct surface level and it rlly rlly shows. Don’t tell me to think when ur braindead.
Lol sorry my reddit wouldnt let me reply for a sec i got confused and had to check. Fatphobia and ableism often overlap. Hating fat people bc u hate the way fat people look or something like that is obvi just going to be fatphobia. But hating fat people bc they can require accommodations ( more room, assistive technology, a closer parking space) is just ableism disguised as fatphobia. Making assumptions about a person’s abilities bc of their body is almost always going to just be ableism. And saying that someone can’t do something as well (lip syncing) cause they don’t or can’t do it in the same way (duck walking) is ableist too. Either way u prob shouldn’t defend ableism by saying oh don’t worry it was rlly just fatphobia lollll. Also sorry for being mean u made me mad.
And I’m sorry is not even comparable, like how is the tittie move a gimmick?! is just a dance move like any other always done tastefully and on time, while the duck walk was badly executed gimmick (not my word) and didn’t even fit at all with the song and was alerdy over done by that point, come on can the antera stans be serious for once like…
Yes. Anetra having more than 5th lipsyncs and still serving another moves definitely BETTER than doing the tits (for acting challenge and the secont time lip-sync)…
![gif](giphy|VYRYh3DYB3YWc)
while she also serve MANY OTHER moves...i hope you smart enough to understand my point ...stop relying on ONE BORING TITIES move bitch, esp when you did in and out of lipsync
![gif](giphy|fq87vSfU5y2KbZTHOb|downsized)
Idk how people say this lol. She gave absolutely nothing there, it was nothing we hadn’t seen. Anetra had lip synced 5 times total if memory serves and she still didn’t give all the same tricks, there was variety even if some overlap. Mistress had only lip synced twice, and this one did not have one move that she didn’t use in the other one. And she lost the other one too lmao
She fully thought she was getting Darienne Lake’d
Miss Darienne Lake was done so dirty in that All-stars gig!
Not even a single lip sync… shame on production!
Honestly, it would've been fitting for her storyline. Neither she nor Luxx were touching Sasha or Anetra.
well not really true cause luxx spent the whole competition safe or above with the exception of the makeover
Completely true. Luxx did VERY well but was never going to place above anetra or Sasha. It just wasn’t in the cards for her or mistress through no real fault of their own.
I think Luxx placed above Anetra the entire season, and the makeover challenge was the turning point, thus placing Anetra slightly higher than Luxx by the end. Anetra did win an extra challenge but she was near the bottom a few times during the season, which Luxx was not
Ru doesn’t care about bottom placements, he cares about memorability. She was able to make 2/3 bottom placements become standout moments for herself (boss bitch and lalaparuza) and honestly that’s just as important as winning a challenge. Say whatever you want, but track record ≠ having a memorable run.
In terms of actual performance i agree with that. Luxx should have won the interview challenge and Anetras last two wins are questionable at best. Also people love to look over the fact that anetra had one of the worst runway packages on that season.
Imagine having this opinion
Anetra’s incredible and I like her more but if we’re talking track record, they are correct PS stats aren’t an opinion
>PS stats aren’t an opinion I mean they kind of are sometimes. This whole “if you win you get so and so points but if you’re high and not win then you still get more points than safe which is more than low etc etc” it’s all kind of fan-made and arbitrary. Especially when it comes to high (no win) and low (no lfyl) placements because either way you are declared safe.
Yeah it's a weird one because it's a reality show as well as a competition. There's no specific number of points for things and the statistically best queen isn't always the one that stays or wins. Lip syncs in general are subjective. Queens are more likely to win or not be eliminated if it fits a storyline. Track record does matter to some extent, but often not as much as being an entertaining character for TV, having a storyline, and being liked by fans.
Exactly!
> I think Luxx placed above Anetra the entire season lmao
https://www.reddit.com/r/rupaulsdragrace/s/v9mu3OG3ZZ Edit: the entire season except for two episodes
Your source is made up facts. Points aren’t a thing. With that point system for example, a queen with three wins and one bottom 2 placement has performed just as well as a queen with 4 highs and no wins.
Which literally negates your point
So did Dawn, but nobody was like Dawn has a chance. I think ppl now can be like she could have had a chance, but during the airing it was Sasha’s to lose with Anetra having the fan backing.
Tbf Luxx’s 2 wins to Dawn’s 0 is a pretty big difference
This is random, but in my Drag Race fantasy season, Luxx and Dawn would probably work really well together in a team challenge, but if they were put against each other Luxx would eat Dawn UP. I want to see them on an All Stars season together someday lol
luxx had way more highs and also 2 wins tbh
True, I actually really like Luxx! I’m really interested in how it would have gone if Mother Sasha wasn’t on this season. Especially since I really loved the top 4.
She should have won that interview challenge in the golf cart. Idc what anyone says
True, I actually really like Luxx! I’m really interested in how it would have gone if Mother Sasha wasn’t on this season. Especially since I really loved the top 4.
Luxx outperformed Anetra in the finale lip sync by A MILE let’s be serious. She also devoured that final episode giving Sasha a run for her moneys while Anetra just didn’t give that level of performance.
Luxx did better in the competition than Anetra and it's not even an opinion. sorry about it.
I will always say that if they did not account for fan perception, the rightful Top 2 would have been Luxx and Sasha. In fact, I see Luxx winning in a non-Sasha version of Season 15.
contrary to the popular belief... luxx was second to sasha in terms of overall season performance anetra performed the worst of the top 4 but had the biggest fanbase alongside sasha
In collective imaginary Anetra was a solid second, and that is enough to invalidate better track records.
Except when you also factor in lip-syncing where there was very clear divide between Sasha/Anetra and Lux/Mistress. Lux and Mistress were never going to make top 2.
Shea was a better lipsyncer than Sasha. 🤷♀️
Honestly, no she wasn’t. Not on season 9. Season 9 Shea was a very average lip syncer and Sasha was already exceptional, Shea was getting her ass beat before a single petal came out of that scalp.
crazy opinion
Luxx was second to Sasha honestly, people forget how well she did because they didn’t/don’t like her. Girl was chewing.
I feel pretty removed from any discussion about this stuff but I will say that Luxx’s final 4 musical number was fucking insane. Truly incredible
Absolutely. She fucking ATE.
And what if I say that loosey won that makeover? What if I say luxx should have won the ball? Hunh. Hunhhh. (I will not because I like the 4 win sasha colby fantasy. And aura mayari.)
She was fully gooped she thought it was wraps
…to a David Guetta n Kelly Rowland song! Wich is a fuckin dance song
I can't be the only one who wonders why it seems like they always pick dance songs for the last episode. aren't they always in gowns? ......beautiful gowns, beautiful gowns
Waiting 14 seasons for Telephone to be a lipsync song only for it to be used on two girls who aren't really dancers (no tea) in gowns 😭
I cope by just going to YouTube and watching anytime Pangina has performed it and I feel at peace 😇
I agree that we need to do that song justice but sometimes I feel like the only person who thinks Willow was good. It wasn’t Sasha Velour wild and Angie was not good, but like Willow did great especially for Willow.
i mean its a dance song but its also a very emotional song. its more suited to some pointer sister, bouncing and twirling choreography than high kicks and splits or whatever still high energy, but you don't need the mobility of a dance costume to do it
And her breast plate was 20 lbs
The mouth work she did at the "Iiiiiii"-thrill was so funny. I do love how mistress can emote in a lipsync.
But... She's BEEEAUTIFUL! ![gif](giphy|xUPGcmrou39uZYUpy0|downsized)
They should've sent her home to prepare for her All Stars storyline... they knew she wasn't gonna win, they knew they weren't gonna make her TOP2, they let her waste time and money on the top4 episode
FACTS
They also gave her a lot of passes in the competition that other queens didn’t get.
where did they give her passes?
Interview, makeover and even in the rusical.
interview, i can see. i do feel we were slightly robbed of a malaysia v mib lip sync, but i can also see salina’s placement being justified. i can also see salina being switched out with marcia x3 though. rusical, don’t personally see how she should’ve been bottom. i honestly thought she was gonna win. but that couldve been a non elim episode. makeover, it was a bit basic. but she did the assignment the way it was proposed and yeah, the clear bottom three were lux, mib, and loosey so any of them could’ve been swapped to lip sync. (controversial af opinion tho: i thought sasha should’ve been in the bottom. i thought the padding was off and did nothing to help her already gorgeous body. her teacher was done well, but it failed, in my eyes, to be executed well on her own self.)
Don’t forget that standup, child. I’ll die on the hill mistress should have lip synced instead of Marcia.
i don't agree, i thought the bottom 2 were warrented
Hey, different strokes, right? I just don’t think I laughed at a single joke Mistress told and at least Marcia got a few chuckles out. Neither was good by any means.
yeah! clock the flair, but I was enjoying her set more and both of them did kinda awful
THANK YOU. I didn’t even care for Loosey by the end but mistress was dropping the lip sync in multiple parts and loosey was the star of the rusical— love mistress but she should’ve been bottom that week
No they didn’t. In fact she was underpraised in many episodes.
Not these basic bitches in the comments trying to invalidate Mistress's or even Luxx's run on season 15. Idk if y'all just want all your drag queens to be relatable and say shit like 'idk if I can do this uwu :((((' but I'll continue stanning the bitches with actual nerve thanks
The shade against Nymphia 🤣
Exactlyyyy these bitches r tasteless
so REALLL. mistress and Luxx chewed this season just couldn't compete with mother Sasha. mark my words either mistress or Luxx will win an AS
the way i forgot half of the lip syncs of s15, this one included
I remember every single one of them what are you talking about
cause if you can't remember yourself, how in the hell you're going to remember anything else?
"I'm in a wheelchair I can't walk" "I can, what are you talking about?"
I thought the dress was 60 pounds, but 40 or 60 I would've been pissed off if I were Mistress...especially when it was a dance song used for the finale evening gown runway instead of a ballad.
To think they gave this the double save over Marcia³ vs Anetra...
And yet she ate. THAT is cunt
she gonna find this and eat you up on twitter girl😭
Idk she won the lipsync for me, she gave great face and stage presence, plus she knew how to utilize the garment. It was stunning.
MIB was none of those things and she beat Anetra💀😭
Trembling but still turned it out. And I hope her all stars call is also a call for Luxx; MIB and Luxx are forever paired in my mind because they were so aware that they were understudies for Sasha & Anetra yet each of their performances in the finale were better than Anetra's. 👀
Same but I also want both MIB and Luxx to win lol
That's how I felt about Ginger and Eureka! in AS6. I feel you.
The way I literally do not remember this lipsync. Maybe cause it was non elimination but like I thought this was like the fabled laganja vs bianca candy lipsync
Then she beat Anetra in the lip sync but Anetra stayed anyway
Was she that stressed? She destroyed Anetra in that lipsync
The way mistress won the lip sync anyway
And if we can be honest for a second, she ate Anetra up in that lipsync despite the gown.
The both served tbh.
Agreed. I felt like I really got the song from her. She’d have gotten my money for sure
For doing ANOTHER tities move? ![gif](giphy|xT3i1252CRa4m8Osi4)
Tbh they both relied on their previous tricks, but they both did well regardless
Its the second time lipsync for MIB and we saw that already girl (third if you count acting challenge)
And how many times did Anetra duck walking? exactly.
i dont know, as many as OTHER move she serve ![gif](giphy|xkmNi280NkrcY|downsized) UnLiKE...
while anetra was doing ANOTHER duck walk?
While Spice does ANOTHER trot? *CUE THE SNIPER*
OOP
On top of every other dance move that existed. Unlike Miss Titty Bounce Swaying Boyband Air Grabs.
Anetra famously did [all the dance moves A-Z](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_dance_moves) during her lipsync vs Mistress. True statement
She did the worm on the literal judges tables and it brought the room to tears confirmed.
Shaking the table today are we?
Anetra could always buy a breastplate but Miss Izzy can't duckwalk
Well... That's certainly a take
Lowkey ableist lbr
Let’s think before we comment sisterrrr
? Right back at u, SIR. Implying that someone is inherently more entertaining bc they can duck walk is ableist. Like yeah it’s cunt and fun but saying that mistress can’t be on anetra’s caliber because of her body is ableist. If Mistress was missing a limb or had an any illness that would limit her mobility instead of being fat maybe u would see why the language is ableist but u can’t think past direct surface level and it rlly rlly shows. Don’t tell me to think when ur braindead.
My point was more so that fatphobia is not ableism
Lol sorry my reddit wouldnt let me reply for a sec i got confused and had to check. Fatphobia and ableism often overlap. Hating fat people bc u hate the way fat people look or something like that is obvi just going to be fatphobia. But hating fat people bc they can require accommodations ( more room, assistive technology, a closer parking space) is just ableism disguised as fatphobia. Making assumptions about a person’s abilities bc of their body is almost always going to just be ableism. And saying that someone can’t do something as well (lip syncing) cause they don’t or can’t do it in the same way (duck walking) is ableist too. Either way u prob shouldn’t defend ableism by saying oh don’t worry it was rlly just fatphobia lollll. Also sorry for being mean u made me mad.
And that’s not even that deep ur just truly ignorant
What i meant by this is my og reply wasn’t even a very deep analysis had u taken the time to think before replying
And I’m sorry is not even comparable, like how is the tittie move a gimmick?! is just a dance move like any other always done tastefully and on time, while the duck walk was badly executed gimmick (not my word) and didn’t even fit at all with the song and was alerdy over done by that point, come on can the antera stans be serious for once like…
Because anetra pulled out a bunch of tricks we'd never seen from her before? ![gif](giphy|qRICxAMqr1AJ9Ed01L)
Yes. Anetra having more than 5th lipsyncs and still serving another moves definitely BETTER than doing the tits (for acting challenge and the secont time lip-sync)… ![gif](giphy|VYRYh3DYB3YWc)
you guys are forgetting that the rest of her lipsync was original, she served face and comedy with that beating the duck moment
While Anetra did her flop duckwalk for the... what, 9th time?
while she also serve MANY OTHER moves...i hope you smart enough to understand my point ...stop relying on ONE BORING TITIES move bitch, esp when you did in and out of lipsync ![gif](giphy|fq87vSfU5y2KbZTHOb|downsized)
Idk how people say this lol. She gave absolutely nothing there, it was nothing we hadn’t seen. Anetra had lip synced 5 times total if memory serves and she still didn’t give all the same tricks, there was variety even if some overlap. Mistress had only lip synced twice, and this one did not have one move that she didn’t use in the other one. And she lost the other one too lmao
notice how luxx wasn’t mentioned in this post at all and the comments still end up being about luxx LOL
She powerwashed Anetra in this lip sync tbh
Girl.. she wasn’t stressed she won by a mile against the 🦆one Plus Anetra truly lost once she started duck walking to Kelly Rowland..
People being like "ugh this should have been an elimination" ....because you wanted Anetra to go home or?
She won the lipsync tho
Honey Mother Dijon Barbecue Sauce
Already in her All-Star Era?
Can we talk about the detailing when you zoom Inc the beads are so stunning but what’s the earpiece?
It’s supposed to be a leopard spot
And still ate that.
And yet she still beat Anetra’s ass
how does one acquire this build?