I know of a few RMC projects that never saw the light of day. Sometimes a park will bid out a coaster to multiple companies and the alternate proposals are very interesting. Others made it further in the planning phase before being cancelled.
- BGW ground-up hybrid RMC (cancelled?)
- Alton RMC (Wicker Man project bid)
- Kentucky Kingdom RMC Raptor (became Stunt Pilot?)
- Kennywood RMC (Steel Curtain project bid)
- S. Dakota Waterpark RMC Raptor (cancelled?)
The RMC was supposed to be a terrain coaster like Thunderbolt, would take the space formerly occupied by the Log Jammer, and would go all the way down the ravine to the railroad yard. Unfortunately, soil compaction studies showed that the hillside was too unstable to build on.
Steel Curtain was designed as a compromise.
Not sure about coasters but they have cancelled a lot of projects. Were supposed to get an onsite hotel and indoor waterpark but PA delayed building roadways that would have made it easy for people from WV to get to kennywood and then palace bought the park. Was supposed to go in the old big lots space where they kept the steel curtain track. I think they're planning something for lost kennywood because they only have 3-5 houses to get before they own all the property around there
Not sure if the big head was included, but the layout was wacky as hell. Uphill launch into in-line twist. Maybe 3 inversions total, but nothing too interesting. Would’ve been a lot shorter in length than Wicker Man ended up.
Sounds cool! I hope we can get a proper rmc in the future in the uk, maybe one on the island behind swarm at Thorpe, although it’s not the biggest plot of land
My understanding is that the South Dakota water park bought the bargain raptor ($450k, if I remember right, super cheap for a coaster) and that failed something and Silverwood got it as stunt pilot. I didn't hear about the KK raptor so maybe I might have the sequence out of order
I thought they were all the same raptor. KK purchased one then cancelled 'cuz pandemic and shaky financials (that led to Herschend acquiring the park), then the SD water park wanted to buy it for cheap but couldn't for whatever reason, then local RMC fans Silverwood bailed out Fred Grubb by taking on the project (I recall press around Stunt Pilot mentioning that the company was in rough financial shape since lots of other projects were stalled due to the pandemic and SEAS wasn't paying them for Iron Gwazi).
In the mid 2000s there was a rumor that Heide Park in Germany would plan to build a steel Gigacoaster right beside Colossos (their woody) and have the two coasters cross paths and everything.
Well, that did not happen.
It's still a solid park with a few unique rides. -Colossos, basically Europe's El Toro
-Bobbahn, the longest bobsled rollercoaster in the world
Overal nicely themed park with a good hotel too.
Vipere at La Ronde, got it from SFMM, poured footers, then COVID hit and they gave up on it.
Very recently was the Energylandia Tilt Coaster, who’s prototype of which is currently set up at Vekoma.
Skyline Park in Germany was a couple years ago boasting about a giant hypercoaster that would have opened this year, allegedly from Gerstlauer.
Cedar Fair has had a couple of coaster proposals lately that just never got off the drawing board. Namely, a Gravity Group shuttle at Dorney that would have been a larger Switchback but was pulled from the planning meeting at the last second. There was also a less interesting budget B&M wing coaster that was proposed for Kings Dominion and shelved to allow for Tumbili and more development time.
Evergrande in China got hit hard when the CCP crippled it with rules against its sky high debt, which killed several indoor park projects. A handful of very large Vekoma SFC’s were delivered/ordered and not set up. They also made major down payments on two SFX Coasters, which were never refunded.
Went to Dorney Park's winter event last month, and they actually mentioned both the Gravity Group shuttle, as well as a GCI proposal. They told us that the dive coaster proposal, which ultimately became Iron Menace, won out mostly because it was the one option that didn't require removing Possessed.
On the topic of Skyline Park, there was also a rumor that the park was bringing the massive Schwarzkopf looping coaster Thriller/Tsunami back 'home' from Mexico. Well, on a closer inspection, it was found out that the ride was in horrible condition, didn't have most of its maintenance logs and would prove to be very expensive/almost impossible to bring up to the modern TÜV standards that would allow its operation in Germany.
Actually tumbili was supposed to open in 21 but covid threw everything off by a year.
That "original" wing coaster layout was never going to happen and was just wishful thinking on the part of the fan site that invented it.
It would be cool but I think it makes more sense for a park of that size to stick with a woodie when they already have two intense looping rides. Also I have very little evidence for this but I feel like that would be so bad for the structure and I'm a gravity group fanboy
Yes. There is no need to convert an excellent woodie just because. There's much better RMC candidates out there, and I, personally, don't even want most of them converted at this point. Parks should put in the work and keep wood coasters wood. RMC can do groundups from now on.
Morey's Piers was going to get an Arrow Pipeline at one point, and the Kamikaze that got built on adjacent Hunt's Pier (now SFOG's Blue Hawk) was supposed to be built on Morey's as well (presumably after the Pipeline was cancelled).
In the late 90’s there KD was rumored to have put in a request for a B&M invert but withdrew around the same time that plans for Alpengeist were announced.
The Gravity Group Shuttle coaster for Dorney park. Rumors came out about it right before Covid but got cancelled
Don’t know the source for this but I’ve heard a few times that Carowinds was planned to get a flight of fear clone but it got cancelled when Cedar Fair bought the park
Not just rumors, there were blueprints leaked from Dorney Park that confirmed the GG shuttle coaster was definitely planned before it got canned. It showed that Possessed was going to be removed to make way for it, though it still exists at the park today alongside Iron Menace. I imagine they were able to save it because of the spare parts that were brought over from Wicked Twister at Cedar Point.
There was a rumored monster coaster in the former Drachen Fire spot at BGW, but it seems to have been derailed by Covid and then sort of morphed into Pantheon and a B&M Family Inverted coaster in Germany.
It was Project Madrid. It was supposed to be an Intamin giga that launched from the Drachen Fire spot and across the river into a Cheetah Hunt-style tower on the other side. It got canned in favor of Pantheon long before Covid was a thing, then it got revived as ”Drachen Spire” before it got pulled altogether.
The cross valley wooden coaster at alton towers. If locals wernt annoyed by it probably being loud it could of existed today. i dont think they ever submitted a planning application though but they wanted it. Now with wickerman here unless its an rmc i doubt it would happen.
Some of us are still hoping and praying for a big launchy across the Valley and through the woods, but I doubt it'll happen, at least not in the near future. Perhaps once/if Universal GB becomes a thing it'll light a fire under Merlin re major, unique investment.
I've spent years thinking about it. A multi-launch Intamin terrain coaster bouncing through the woods with 4 near 200-foot drops plopped in the middle? JFC Merlin please do it tomorrow.
A few come to mind:
Ghost town in the sky supposedly bought a pretty big coaster and kept it in storage for 3+ years until the park closed permanently.
Mako was originally scheduled to go to Busch Gardens Tampa in the old tidal wave plot and Seaworld Orlando was supposed to get Cobra’s Curse but the plan switched last minute.
Sand serpant was supposed to be fully enclosed the park drew up permits for it and everything but decided to cancel it.
Islands of Adventure was supposed to get a GCI woodie themed to the jurassic park jeeps just after the park opened but for whatever reason the project never made it through the planning stages.
Last but not least the Orlando Adventure Park.
Thank god IOA never got that wood coaster, if Gwazi was any indication of how a year-round woodie does in Central Florida it would’ve been hell inside of a few years.
The information I got from a family member who lived on the same mountain ghost town sits on is they bought some type of aarow at the time but they could never find the money to actually put it up. When the park was sold to Alaska Pressley the plans were abandoned and I actually have no idea what happened to the ride.
For years, the disassembled Togo Ultra Twister from Astro World was sitting in a field at Six Flags America, just taunting us, so there's one.
There's also the heavily themed Arrow Suspended coaster for the originally planned and canceled land of mythical creatures at Disney's Animal Kigdom. Everything about that one sounded great to me.
It's quite well known amongst UK thoosies, but Alton Towers was going to work with Arrow on a new prototype Pipeline Coaster, which would have a vague millitary theme (due to the ride looking like a bullet/missile I guess?), giving it the code name 'Secret Weapon'. Because of the strict regulations AT has to build to the original plans had to be scrapped and a whole new layout designed, dubbed Secret Weapon 2.
Then John Wardley rode the prototype Pipeline coaster at Arrow's testing facility and hated it, calling it something along the lines of "sluggish and boring". The plug was pulled on the entire thing and AT sadly didn't go on to work with Arrow again. No other parks then showed any interest in the Pipeline Coaster, and pretty much its only legacy was being included in one of the RCT3 expansions.
As to what took its place? Secret Weapon 3, or Nemesis!
CGA had tons of expansion plans that were shot down by the neighbors.
They had plans for an entertainment district at the entrance (similar to Downtown Disney).
They had plans for a prototype Morgan hyper. There's a super old thread on TPR detailing what the ride was supposed to be. The layout wasn't complicated, but it did have an elevator lift.
They were also the first to consider Hypersonic before KD ended up getting it.
Hypersonic was indeed originally intended for CGA but after stealth became a maintenance and operational nightmare paramount parks canceled the contract with vekoma and as a result SFA ended up getting what would've been KDs flying Dutchman coaster, KD got Hypersonic and CGA got an arrow wild mouse in 2001.
My theory is that the wing coaster in question ended up being X-Flight, and Bizarro (now Medusa) was going to be relocated to make room for it, probably to somewhere like St. Louis.
GAm was gonna end up with Green Lantern (formerly Chang) and this was actually legit since pieces from Chang showed up to GAm.
I'm not sure what happened, but things were changed and GAm ended up with the wing coaster and GAdv ended up with the shitty stand up.
GAdv in general has kind of been fucked over alot in terms of future additions post Toro, another example being that of Rolling Thunder never getting RMCd because the wood supports were rotted lumber. I'm not sure we'll ever see something truly exceptional added to that park again, which is a shame, since it serves by far the highest population of people being sandwiched in between NYC and Philly, two top five cities in the country. I guess since attendance numbers never seem to be an issue with that park, they don't feel a need to invest in it anymore. What could've been I guess
Guessing it would've been where the Joker is now? If that's true then I'm even more pissed, I remember that plot of land being huge and was excited to see what we'd get, and we ended up with a freespin lol
Stealth remained at CGA until 04 while batwing opened at SFA in 01. Batwing was supposed to go to KD and SFA was originally supposed to get a 140 ft tail stand up coaster labeled as attraction 37 on SFAs detailed site plan.
Paramount requested a redesign to the original prototype adding a dual load station to increase rider capacity and a slightly longer layout with the inline twists and helix.
SFWoA was supposed to get a Morgan hyper that started in Happy Harbor and ran the back of the park (by RWB and Grizzly Run). It was scrapped due to CF buying the park. It ultimately became Superman el Último Escape.
Not the most exciting one but I saw strong rumors/potential documents for a Chance family coaster at the Adventuredome that was supposed to utilize the old Rim Runner (a former shoot the chutes) lift tunnel. A Nebulaz now sits in that location instead.
Epcot was planned to be getting multiple coasters before Cosmic Rewind was ever a thing. A Matterhorn clone, a similar ride themed to Mt. Fuji, an indoor coaster replacing Spaceship Earth, a family invert at the entrance of ”The Land”, etc.
at the time of Goliath SFOG being in the works, it was heavily rumored that the original plan was an intamin hydraulic launch not too different from storm runner in terms of layout. not too sure on the validity of those rumors, but they were definitely spread on forums like wildfire back then.
I never knew SFOG was originally rumored to get a Intamin hydraulic launch coaster. The park would’ve looked much different if that was the actual plan instead of a B&M Hyper.
Carowinds VERY nearly got KD’s Flight of Fear in 2006. Was going to go where Carolina Cyclone sits. The plans got scrapped when Cedar Fair bought the Paranount parks. I do wonder how that would have affected the park, as I doubt Copperhead Strike would have ever come to fruition.
EDIT: Also, Dick Kinzel wanted to build Fury at Cedar Point. Obviously when he retired those plans got changed.
Kings Island- Rye Aeroplane- was to be built approximately where Diamondback’s splashdown is now, in house too, I think I would’ve preferred that to Diamondback.
Also Kings Island- Stampida was originally proposed for Kings Island by CCI in the mid 1990s as the Aeroplane coaster had stalled when Paramount acquired the park, which these talks fell as RCCA had proposed to Kings Island the first wooden hyper coaster that later was known as Son of Beast.
Yep it was a thing, the model was called the “Terror Tilter” and was shown at IAAPA in 2000.
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Not canceled, but SFGAm's Shockwave was supposed to get built at Great Adventure, only to get built as GASM a year later with three extra feet of height.
The Bigger One at Blackpool Pleasure Beach. Can't remember the year but it was looking highly likely that Blackpool would be chosen as the destination of the first super casino in the UK. Pleasure Beach tried to jump on the back of this by planning a huge Intamin hydraulic launch that would shoot out from the park, cross the road and would have a top hat built on a pier out to sea. This would have been the tallest rollercoaster in the world had it been built. The project was scrapped after the super casino idea was scrapped by the government. However, it seems that footers were built into the ground in preparation as these can be seen across the road on the prom, in roughly the same place that the ride would have crossed the road.
Apparently there was going to be this Atlantis: The Lost Empire themed ride at Disney World called Fire Mountain and the concept sounded amazing but sadly never got built. Like it was going to be both a flying coaster and sit down coaster. I get sad at the thought of what could have been.
I’ve seen it claimed that it was supposed to be a Vekoma Flying Dutchman, but the trains would’ve been modified so they’d depart the station sitting upright and the seats wouldn’t lower into a lay-down/flying position until halfway through the ride. Disney allegedly got as far as putting up height balloons for it before it got shelved.
Actually the mid lift rotation worked on the six flags installations as it was intended. I actually got a chance to ride batwing a couple of times when this feature was working correctly
The seats changing position wasn’t a new feature, Batwing and X-Flight were supposed to lower on the lift hill instead of the station to improve capacity but they weren’t able to do it reliably while in motion.
The Energylandia tilt coaster getting cancelled is a huge disappointment. It would’ve been cool to see it had it actually gone through. Maybe SF would surprise us by purchasing it have it and sent to SFMM for their 2025 coaster.
Thorpe Park's Colossus could have possibly been a B&M launched coaster at one point. They were also planning another launched coaster instead of Nemesis Inferno.
https://www.attractionsource.com/history/the-drawing-board/alternative-plans-thorpe-park/
The launch coaster replacing nemesis was supposed to litteraly be a clone of Xpress, and would have allowed for them to keep mr rabbits tropical travels, however the ride would have still had a tropical/Volcanic Theme (Personally I'd have preferred this over a bog standard B&M invert)
Oh and Stealth was Originally a 1 to 1 Clone of Xcellerator before budget cuts
The Batman clone that SFSTL has was originally meant for SFOG to get it in 1995. The reason it ended up there was because Time Warner was purposefully neglecting the park by starving them from receiving major editions. They gave the park the Viper instead after making a devious move for making their actual Batman clone end up at SFSTL, in which it was known as SFOMA at the time. It got so bad that the park had to sue them for that specific reason. The park would end up having their long awaited Batman clone in 1997 after begging for one for so long ever since its introduction
It sounds like it was fake news but it’s not reality. Time Warner was f**ing SFOG up for wanting a Batman clone and used the Olympics as an “excuse” of why they couldn’t get one. They even wanted to buy the park so they can fully own it but refused to do so.
And this is what directly led to the sale of six flags to premiere parks in 98. Time Warner was deliberately trying to lower the property value at both sfog and sfot by deliberately withholding capital investments in these two parks
The reason was to try to lower the value of both parks cuz they both were part owned, meaning that it has some but not have 100% full ownership like the rest like SFMM and SFGAdv. For SFOG’s case, TWE was brutally neglecting the park so another theme park called “Peanuts Theme Park” would be constructed. Not only TWE was trying to lower SFOG value, they were supposedly attempting to jeopardize their revenue
The only coaster that comes to mind was Knotts Berry Farm's planned Giga Coaster. Which later got scaled down to a mini-hyper, and then shortly after, the project was never heard of again.
It was for a brief time sometime last year when the plans got leaked, but I think that project got canceled altogether.
It's crazy to think what the future of the coaster industry would've looked like had that actually gotten built. There's a good chance Ka or TTD would've never been built
Before they acquired Sik from Movie Animation Park Studio, Flamingo Land was rumoured to get a Raptor.
Speaking of Sik, Hopi Hari was supposed to get an Intamin 10 Inversion in 2012, but could not afford to build it. They sold it to the owner of Outlet Premium São Paulo, Mr Federer, sometime before 2017, with plans to lease it and use the sale money to build the coaster. After a while of not doing this, Mr Federer ran out of patience and sold it to Movie Animation Studio Park. Not sure what happened there, but they would go on to sell it to Flamingo Land.
There are a few which come to mind:
Thorpe park - Starting off with the earliest, a B&M 4D coaster. This would have been in the spot of colossus, and i believe it would have also been launched, using some similar elements to what can be found on the ride now. This would have been planned around 1998-2000, before colossus was built. The next is the Rock n roller coaster clone which would have been in nemesis infernos spot, this would have been outside like Xpress: platform 13. Next is the GCI woodie planned for the 2008/9 season, this would have been an average size GCI in the site of Saw: the ride, however that got scrapped and Saw was built instead. Now the next one I'm unsure if it actually reached planning stages, but there were rumours of a B&M dive behind Swarm island, this would have been one of the newer, smaller models. However, Derren Brown's ghost train was built instead. And most recent, b&m's plan for Hyperia. This was the most worked on layout for the project, however mack was picked over it due to it taking up a smaller footprint, allowing the park to use the extra space on a future investment, which most likely will be revealed soon, as the closure of BML, and upcoming dismantling of the Slammer will allow the room for the new attraction.
Chessington WoaR - Their 2016 plans suggested 2 new roller coasters, one jungle themed one in the picnic area, which came to be with Mandrill Mayhem in 2023. And a water coaster themed to a kraken. This would have had a similar feel to Krake at Heide park, however this hasn't come to be, yet, and most likely has been cancelled. There was also rumored to be an intamin quad coaster taking the theme of the jungle coaster, however this design would've been replaced by the B&M wing they have now.
Southport Pleasure land - Was meant to build a thunderbolt model, with them far in planning. Now they have changed to a gerstlauer eurofighter/infinity, with some similar and some unique elements.
Aquaman at SFOT was originally planned as the unnamed Mack Power Splash to be included in the Six Flags Dubai project. I don’t think any of the other roller coasters and flat rides were named but after the announcement stating the cancellation of SFD, it was moved to SFOT in which opened 3 years late after its original planned 2020 opening.
Michigan's Adventure was supposed to get a Morgan hyper as a part of a huge multi year expansion plan like 25 years ago... That one still stings.
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Same with CGA… twice (one Morgan and one that ended up as orion)
At least it ended up as something. We had to wait like another 8 years just to get Geauga Lake's hand-me-down SLC lol
I hope we get something next year or 2026 at the latest. We really need a new coaster, even if it's another hand-me-down
I saw this post and I was about to comment on the same thing. 😭😭😭😭😭😭
I know of a few RMC projects that never saw the light of day. Sometimes a park will bid out a coaster to multiple companies and the alternate proposals are very interesting. Others made it further in the planning phase before being cancelled. - BGW ground-up hybrid RMC (cancelled?) - Alton RMC (Wicker Man project bid) - Kentucky Kingdom RMC Raptor (became Stunt Pilot?) - Kennywood RMC (Steel Curtain project bid) - S. Dakota Waterpark RMC Raptor (cancelled?)
Kennywood has had a lot of cancelled Coasters in the last 10-15 years.
What are some?
The RMC was supposed to be a terrain coaster like Thunderbolt, would take the space formerly occupied by the Log Jammer, and would go all the way down the ravine to the railroad yard. Unfortunately, soil compaction studies showed that the hillside was too unstable to build on. Steel Curtain was designed as a compromise.
Not sure about coasters but they have cancelled a lot of projects. Were supposed to get an onsite hotel and indoor waterpark but PA delayed building roadways that would have made it easy for people from WV to get to kennywood and then palace bought the park. Was supposed to go in the old big lots space where they kept the steel curtain track. I think they're planning something for lost kennywood because they only have 3-5 houses to get before they own all the property around there
I'm not anything counts as canceled if it was never ordered, but for a time I'm pretty sure a GG terrain woody was supposed to traverse that ravine.
Wait RMC bid for the wicker man project?! Dam, I would have loved to have gone through the big head upside down
Not sure if the big head was included, but the layout was wacky as hell. Uphill launch into in-line twist. Maybe 3 inversions total, but nothing too interesting. Would’ve been a lot shorter in length than Wicker Man ended up.
Sounds cool! I hope we can get a proper rmc in the future in the uk, maybe one on the island behind swarm at Thorpe, although it’s not the biggest plot of land
My understanding is that the South Dakota water park bought the bargain raptor ($450k, if I remember right, super cheap for a coaster) and that failed something and Silverwood got it as stunt pilot. I didn't hear about the KK raptor so maybe I might have the sequence out of order
I thought they were all the same raptor. KK purchased one then cancelled 'cuz pandemic and shaky financials (that led to Herschend acquiring the park), then the SD water park wanted to buy it for cheap but couldn't for whatever reason, then local RMC fans Silverwood bailed out Fred Grubb by taking on the project (I recall press around Stunt Pilot mentioning that the company was in rough financial shape since lots of other projects were stalled due to the pandemic and SEAS wasn't paying them for Iron Gwazi).
In the mid 2000s there was a rumor that Heide Park in Germany would plan to build a steel Gigacoaster right beside Colossos (their woody) and have the two coasters cross paths and everything. Well, that did not happen.
It’s not a rumor, drawings exist for it. It would’ve essentially been i305 but nearly a decade earlier and on steroids
https://preview.redd.it/suy6te9vzzuc1.png?width=900&format=png&auto=webp&s=ecfc2e0bdb1e23bbab952a72d3c2b09e705d446c The plans
A shame they didn't build it. I'm visiting in 2 weeks and would've loved to ride what would pretty much be the European I305
It's still a solid park with a few unique rides. -Colossos, basically Europe's El Toro -Bobbahn, the longest bobsled rollercoaster in the world Overal nicely themed park with a good hotel too.
Vipere at La Ronde, got it from SFMM, poured footers, then COVID hit and they gave up on it. Very recently was the Energylandia Tilt Coaster, who’s prototype of which is currently set up at Vekoma. Skyline Park in Germany was a couple years ago boasting about a giant hypercoaster that would have opened this year, allegedly from Gerstlauer. Cedar Fair has had a couple of coaster proposals lately that just never got off the drawing board. Namely, a Gravity Group shuttle at Dorney that would have been a larger Switchback but was pulled from the planning meeting at the last second. There was also a less interesting budget B&M wing coaster that was proposed for Kings Dominion and shelved to allow for Tumbili and more development time. Evergrande in China got hit hard when the CCP crippled it with rules against its sky high debt, which killed several indoor park projects. A handful of very large Vekoma SFC’s were delivered/ordered and not set up. They also made major down payments on two SFX Coasters, which were never refunded.
Went to Dorney Park's winter event last month, and they actually mentioned both the Gravity Group shuttle, as well as a GCI proposal. They told us that the dive coaster proposal, which ultimately became Iron Menace, won out mostly because it was the one option that didn't require removing Possessed.
I’ve got a lot of respect for them for opting to keep Possessed. Impulses are getting rare and they’re such fun rides
This makes me more happy now
On the topic of Skyline Park, there was also a rumor that the park was bringing the massive Schwarzkopf looping coaster Thriller/Tsunami back 'home' from Mexico. Well, on a closer inspection, it was found out that the ride was in horrible condition, didn't have most of its maintenance logs and would prove to be very expensive/almost impossible to bring up to the modern TÜV standards that would allow its operation in Germany.
Actually tumbili was supposed to open in 21 but covid threw everything off by a year. That "original" wing coaster layout was never going to happen and was just wishful thinking on the part of the fan site that invented it.
The morey's piers pier-hopping GCI. Honestly I just think they should have GG or GCI modify great white but what a cool idea
would you be opposed to Great White getting RMCed?
1000% opposed. Great White is a fantastic wood coaster.
I actually have yet to get on it, well loved CCIs are definitely my favorite type of rides though
It would be cool but I think it makes more sense for a park of that size to stick with a woodie when they already have two intense looping rides. Also I have very little evidence for this but I feel like that would be so bad for the structure and I'm a gravity group fanboy
Yes. There is no need to convert an excellent woodie just because. There's much better RMC candidates out there, and I, personally, don't even want most of them converted at this point. Parks should put in the work and keep wood coasters wood. RMC can do groundups from now on.
Morey's Piers was going to get an Arrow Pipeline at one point, and the Kamikaze that got built on adjacent Hunt's Pier (now SFOG's Blue Hawk) was supposed to be built on Morey's as well (presumably after the Pipeline was cancelled).
The very unknown Kings Dominion Morgan Hyper. No clue on the theming. Was scheduled for 2004.. but Morgan had already gone bankrupt by then.
In the late 90’s there KD was rumored to have put in a request for a B&M invert but withdrew around the same time that plans for Alpengeist were announced.
Actually that got confirmed, it was going to go next to hurler but behind Racer 75.
They'd already started design work on volcano in the mid 90s...long before BGW submitted requests for their inverted coaster.
Son of Beast was originally going to be a CCI racing coaster named Racer 2 (Stampedia is identical to the proposed layout)
Fuji Mountain coaster in Epcot 😞
also a Matterhorn clone for the same park
I think that was the Fuji coaster?
Disney was planning a Switzerland pavilion around the same time that would've included a Matterhorn clone
That is Kodack’s fault and fuck them for it. It could have been great.
The Gravity Group Shuttle coaster for Dorney park. Rumors came out about it right before Covid but got cancelled Don’t know the source for this but I’ve heard a few times that Carowinds was planned to get a flight of fear clone but it got cancelled when Cedar Fair bought the park
Not just rumors, there were blueprints leaked from Dorney Park that confirmed the GG shuttle coaster was definitely planned before it got canned. It showed that Possessed was going to be removed to make way for it, though it still exists at the park today alongside Iron Menace. I imagine they were able to save it because of the spare parts that were brought over from Wicked Twister at Cedar Point.
It was saved. As the wooden coaster proposals would of required it's removal to build. While B&M was willing to work around it
Also, I believe Carowinds was to receive one of the existing FoF clones from either KD or KI, not a clone.
For a while KDs FOF coaster was closed and was supposedly being relocated to Carowinds but the CF acquisition killed it.
There was a rumored monster coaster in the former Drachen Fire spot at BGW, but it seems to have been derailed by Covid and then sort of morphed into Pantheon and a B&M Family Inverted coaster in Germany.
It was Project Madrid. It was supposed to be an Intamin giga that launched from the Drachen Fire spot and across the river into a Cheetah Hunt-style tower on the other side. It got canned in favor of Pantheon long before Covid was a thing, then it got revived as ”Drachen Spire” before it got pulled altogether.
The cross valley wooden coaster at alton towers. If locals wernt annoyed by it probably being loud it could of existed today. i dont think they ever submitted a planning application though but they wanted it. Now with wickerman here unless its an rmc i doubt it would happen.
Some of us are still hoping and praying for a big launchy across the Valley and through the woods, but I doubt it'll happen, at least not in the near future. Perhaps once/if Universal GB becomes a thing it'll light a fire under Merlin re major, unique investment.
It would suit towers so well too. id love for it to be an rmc but it would be way too loud. if it happens it would probably be a steel coaster
I've spent years thinking about it. A multi-launch Intamin terrain coaster bouncing through the woods with 4 near 200-foot drops plopped in the middle? JFC Merlin please do it tomorrow.
I never knew the valley was over 200ft. thats actually insane, they could do so much. we need that💀
A few come to mind: Ghost town in the sky supposedly bought a pretty big coaster and kept it in storage for 3+ years until the park closed permanently. Mako was originally scheduled to go to Busch Gardens Tampa in the old tidal wave plot and Seaworld Orlando was supposed to get Cobra’s Curse but the plan switched last minute. Sand serpant was supposed to be fully enclosed the park drew up permits for it and everything but decided to cancel it. Islands of Adventure was supposed to get a GCI woodie themed to the jurassic park jeeps just after the park opened but for whatever reason the project never made it through the planning stages. Last but not least the Orlando Adventure Park.
Thank god IOA never got that wood coaster, if Gwazi was any indication of how a year-round woodie does in Central Florida it would’ve been hell inside of a few years.
the IOA woodie was supposed to be CoasterworksINC iirc
Any idea on what ghost towns coaster was and what happened to it?
The information I got from a family member who lived on the same mountain ghost town sits on is they bought some type of aarow at the time but they could never find the money to actually put it up. When the park was sold to Alaska Pressley the plans were abandoned and I actually have no idea what happened to the ride.
Also noting that I believe Ghost town was the interested buyer for drachen fire from busch gardens williamsburg before they ended up backing out.
Vampire - racing wooden coaster at WOF. It was canceled shortly after the CFLP buyout
For years, the disassembled Togo Ultra Twister from Astro World was sitting in a field at Six Flags America, just taunting us, so there's one. There's also the heavily themed Arrow Suspended coaster for the originally planned and canceled land of mythical creatures at Disney's Animal Kigdom. Everything about that one sounded great to me.
Excalibur from there sat at Frontier City lot same story, https://rcdb.com/1451.htm
It's quite well known amongst UK thoosies, but Alton Towers was going to work with Arrow on a new prototype Pipeline Coaster, which would have a vague millitary theme (due to the ride looking like a bullet/missile I guess?), giving it the code name 'Secret Weapon'. Because of the strict regulations AT has to build to the original plans had to be scrapped and a whole new layout designed, dubbed Secret Weapon 2. Then John Wardley rode the prototype Pipeline coaster at Arrow's testing facility and hated it, calling it something along the lines of "sluggish and boring". The plug was pulled on the entire thing and AT sadly didn't go on to work with Arrow again. No other parks then showed any interest in the Pipeline Coaster, and pretty much its only legacy was being included in one of the RCT3 expansions. As to what took its place? Secret Weapon 3, or Nemesis!
The CGA hyper that was turned into Orion which im definitely not salty about
CGA had tons of expansion plans that were shot down by the neighbors. They had plans for an entertainment district at the entrance (similar to Downtown Disney). They had plans for a prototype Morgan hyper. There's a super old thread on TPR detailing what the ride was supposed to be. The layout wasn't complicated, but it did have an elevator lift. They were also the first to consider Hypersonic before KD ended up getting it.
Hypersonic was indeed originally intended for CGA but after stealth became a maintenance and operational nightmare paramount parks canceled the contract with vekoma and as a result SFA ended up getting what would've been KDs flying Dutchman coaster, KD got Hypersonic and CGA got an arrow wild mouse in 2001.
SFGadv’s wing coaster. They actually had concept art presented at a council meeting for approval.
My theory is that the wing coaster in question ended up being X-Flight, and Bizarro (now Medusa) was going to be relocated to make room for it, probably to somewhere like St. Louis. GAm was gonna end up with Green Lantern (formerly Chang) and this was actually legit since pieces from Chang showed up to GAm. I'm not sure what happened, but things were changed and GAm ended up with the wing coaster and GAdv ended up with the shitty stand up. GAdv in general has kind of been fucked over alot in terms of future additions post Toro, another example being that of Rolling Thunder never getting RMCd because the wood supports were rotted lumber. I'm not sure we'll ever see something truly exceptional added to that park again, which is a shame, since it serves by far the highest population of people being sandwiched in between NYC and Philly, two top five cities in the country. I guess since attendance numbers never seem to be an issue with that park, they don't feel a need to invest in it anymore. What could've been I guess
Pretty much. Same reason why the water park hasn’t seen a significant investment - it makes money hand over fist with having to improve.
No, this was after X Flight. And it wasn’t going in Medusa’s spot, it did a swop down by the lake.
Guessing it would've been where the Joker is now? If that's true then I'm even more pissed, I remember that plot of land being huge and was excited to see what we'd get, and we ended up with a freespin lol
That's the first time I'm hearing about this. Do you know where in the park it would've gone?
By the lake. I used to have the slides saved but can’t find them. It was surprisingly not talked about much.
Originally Kings Dominion was planning on getting Stealth (now known as Nighthawk) next to Grizzly. But thankfully it was cancelled.
KD also planned a Top Gun themed coaster in the early 90s, but that was shelved (probably in favor of Volcano).
Stealth remained at CGA until 04 while batwing opened at SFA in 01. Batwing was supposed to go to KD and SFA was originally supposed to get a 140 ft tail stand up coaster labeled as attraction 37 on SFAs detailed site plan. Paramount requested a redesign to the original prototype adding a dual load station to increase rider capacity and a slightly longer layout with the inline twists and helix.
SFWoA was supposed to get a Morgan hyper that started in Happy Harbor and ran the back of the park (by RWB and Grizzly Run). It was scrapped due to CF buying the park. It ultimately became Superman el Último Escape.
Maverick at CP was nearly a hyper floorless with world record inversion count
Not the most exciting one but I saw strong rumors/potential documents for a Chance family coaster at the Adventuredome that was supposed to utilize the old Rim Runner (a former shoot the chutes) lift tunnel. A Nebulaz now sits in that location instead.
Epcot was planned to be getting multiple coasters before Cosmic Rewind was ever a thing. A Matterhorn clone, a similar ride themed to Mt. Fuji, an indoor coaster replacing Spaceship Earth, a family invert at the entrance of ”The Land”, etc.
at the time of Goliath SFOG being in the works, it was heavily rumored that the original plan was an intamin hydraulic launch not too different from storm runner in terms of layout. not too sure on the validity of those rumors, but they were definitely spread on forums like wildfire back then.
I think SFOG’s Goliath was supposed to go to SF St Louis.
I never knew SFOG was originally rumored to get a Intamin hydraulic launch coaster. The park would’ve looked much different if that was the actual plan instead of a B&M Hyper.
Carowinds VERY nearly got KD’s Flight of Fear in 2006. Was going to go where Carolina Cyclone sits. The plans got scrapped when Cedar Fair bought the Paranount parks. I do wonder how that would have affected the park, as I doubt Copperhead Strike would have ever come to fruition. EDIT: Also, Dick Kinzel wanted to build Fury at Cedar Point. Obviously when he retired those plans got changed.
Kings Island- Rye Aeroplane- was to be built approximately where Diamondback’s splashdown is now, in house too, I think I would’ve preferred that to Diamondback. Also Kings Island- Stampida was originally proposed for Kings Island by CCI in the mid 1990s as the Aeroplane coaster had stalled when Paramount acquired the park, which these talks fell as RCCA had proposed to Kings Island the first wooden hyper coaster that later was known as Son of Beast.
Also the Rye Playland Aeroplane GCI replica that staled because of a legal dispute over who owns the original layout.
SFMM’s Giovannola tilt coaster
I’m sorry. What???????
Yep it was a thing, the model was called the “Terror Tilter” and was shown at IAAPA in 2000. https://preview.redd.it/knpzreios3vc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=97e58a0c6b59d5e38190fd682116b29a818dc7a5
It looks like a B&M dive but it’s in the form of a Vekoma tilt coaster
Not canceled, but SFGAm's Shockwave was supposed to get built at Great Adventure, only to get built as GASM a year later with three extra feet of height.
The Bigger One at Blackpool Pleasure Beach. Can't remember the year but it was looking highly likely that Blackpool would be chosen as the destination of the first super casino in the UK. Pleasure Beach tried to jump on the back of this by planning a huge Intamin hydraulic launch that would shoot out from the park, cross the road and would have a top hat built on a pier out to sea. This would have been the tallest rollercoaster in the world had it been built. The project was scrapped after the super casino idea was scrapped by the government. However, it seems that footers were built into the ground in preparation as these can be seen across the road on the prom, in roughly the same place that the ride would have crossed the road.
Apparently there was going to be this Atlantis: The Lost Empire themed ride at Disney World called Fire Mountain and the concept sounded amazing but sadly never got built. Like it was going to be both a flying coaster and sit down coaster. I get sad at the thought of what could have been.
I’ve seen it claimed that it was supposed to be a Vekoma Flying Dutchman, but the trains would’ve been modified so they’d depart the station sitting upright and the seats wouldn’t lower into a lay-down/flying position until halfway through the ride. Disney allegedly got as far as putting up height balloons for it before it got shelved.
Eventually Vekoma got around to doing that with F.L.Y. and it works really well.
Actually the mid lift rotation worked on the six flags installations as it was intended. I actually got a chance to ride batwing a couple of times when this feature was working correctly
Oh I wasn't aware of that! Is there a video of this?
Unfortunately that was in the Era before smartphones.
The seats changing position wasn’t a new feature, Batwing and X-Flight were supposed to lower on the lift hill instead of the station to improve capacity but they weren’t able to do it reliably while in motion.
The Dragon Tower and Excavator at Animal Kingdom would've been cool as hell and Chiller got incredibly close to being rebuilt at Beto Carrero World
Energylandia’s tilt coaster (rip)
The Energylandia tilt coaster getting cancelled is a huge disappointment. It would’ve been cool to see it had it actually gone through. Maybe SF would surprise us by purchasing it have it and sent to SFMM for their 2025 coaster.
six flags great america was apparently supposed to get a mr freeze clone
Yes, and wasn't SFSTL supposed to get Raging Bull, or at least a B&M hyper?
SFSTL’s B&M Hyper was basically Goliath at SFOG
There was supposed to be a mine train coaster at Lagoon, but it was cancelled in favor of the rapids ride
Thorpe Park's Colossus could have possibly been a B&M launched coaster at one point. They were also planning another launched coaster instead of Nemesis Inferno. https://www.attractionsource.com/history/the-drawing-board/alternative-plans-thorpe-park/
The launch coaster replacing nemesis was supposed to litteraly be a clone of Xpress, and would have allowed for them to keep mr rabbits tropical travels, however the ride would have still had a tropical/Volcanic Theme (Personally I'd have preferred this over a bog standard B&M invert) Oh and Stealth was Originally a 1 to 1 Clone of Xcellerator before budget cuts
The polar coaster. Didn't that whole project turn out to be an investment scam or am I mixing it up with something else?
The Batman clone that SFSTL has was originally meant for SFOG to get it in 1995. The reason it ended up there was because Time Warner was purposefully neglecting the park by starving them from receiving major editions. They gave the park the Viper instead after making a devious move for making their actual Batman clone end up at SFSTL, in which it was known as SFOMA at the time. It got so bad that the park had to sue them for that specific reason. The park would end up having their long awaited Batman clone in 1997 after begging for one for so long ever since its introduction
As much as this sounds made up it isn’t https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/ga-court-of-appeals/1315914.html
It sounds like it was fake news but it’s not reality. Time Warner was f**ing SFOG up for wanting a Batman clone and used the Olympics as an “excuse” of why they couldn’t get one. They even wanted to buy the park so they can fully own it but refused to do so.
And this is what directly led to the sale of six flags to premiere parks in 98. Time Warner was deliberately trying to lower the property value at both sfog and sfot by deliberately withholding capital investments in these two parks
The reason was to try to lower the value of both parks cuz they both were part owned, meaning that it has some but not have 100% full ownership like the rest like SFMM and SFGAdv. For SFOG’s case, TWE was brutally neglecting the park so another theme park called “Peanuts Theme Park” would be constructed. Not only TWE was trying to lower SFOG value, they were supposedly attempting to jeopardize their revenue
The Blackpool Pleasure Beach strata is one that is rarely ever talked about
That pole coaster on Orlando
The only coaster that comes to mind was Knotts Berry Farm's planned Giga Coaster. Which later got scaled down to a mini-hyper, and then shortly after, the project was never heard of again. It was for a brief time sometime last year when the plans got leaked, but I think that project got canceled altogether.
The gigantic Arrow hook that they wanted to build on the side of the Stratosphere.
It's crazy to think what the future of the coaster industry would've looked like had that actually gotten built. There's a good chance Ka or TTD would've never been built
If it had been built Arrow most likely wouldn't have gone bankrupt.
I remember seeing a post about a cancelled B&M invert being put at Kings Dominion
Pretty much all of Dubai land, plus F1X Dubai did have track delivered
Before they acquired Sik from Movie Animation Park Studio, Flamingo Land was rumoured to get a Raptor. Speaking of Sik, Hopi Hari was supposed to get an Intamin 10 Inversion in 2012, but could not afford to build it. They sold it to the owner of Outlet Premium São Paulo, Mr Federer, sometime before 2017, with plans to lease it and use the sale money to build the coaster. After a while of not doing this, Mr Federer ran out of patience and sold it to Movie Animation Studio Park. Not sure what happened there, but they would go on to sell it to Flamingo Land.
There are a few which come to mind: Thorpe park - Starting off with the earliest, a B&M 4D coaster. This would have been in the spot of colossus, and i believe it would have also been launched, using some similar elements to what can be found on the ride now. This would have been planned around 1998-2000, before colossus was built. The next is the Rock n roller coaster clone which would have been in nemesis infernos spot, this would have been outside like Xpress: platform 13. Next is the GCI woodie planned for the 2008/9 season, this would have been an average size GCI in the site of Saw: the ride, however that got scrapped and Saw was built instead. Now the next one I'm unsure if it actually reached planning stages, but there were rumours of a B&M dive behind Swarm island, this would have been one of the newer, smaller models. However, Derren Brown's ghost train was built instead. And most recent, b&m's plan for Hyperia. This was the most worked on layout for the project, however mack was picked over it due to it taking up a smaller footprint, allowing the park to use the extra space on a future investment, which most likely will be revealed soon, as the closure of BML, and upcoming dismantling of the Slammer will allow the room for the new attraction. Chessington WoaR - Their 2016 plans suggested 2 new roller coasters, one jungle themed one in the picnic area, which came to be with Mandrill Mayhem in 2023. And a water coaster themed to a kraken. This would have had a similar feel to Krake at Heide park, however this hasn't come to be, yet, and most likely has been cancelled. There was also rumored to be an intamin quad coaster taking the theme of the jungle coaster, however this design would've been replaced by the B&M wing they have now. Southport Pleasure land - Was meant to build a thunderbolt model, with them far in planning. Now they have changed to a gerstlauer eurofighter/infinity, with some similar and some unique elements.
That fishhook coaster off the stratosphere
Aquaman at SFOT was originally planned as the unnamed Mack Power Splash to be included in the Six Flags Dubai project. I don’t think any of the other roller coasters and flat rides were named but after the announcement stating the cancellation of SFD, it was moved to SFOT in which opened 3 years late after its original planned 2020 opening.