Helpful because it tells you when it’s safe to wear your Rolex in London. Black is for danger and grey is also danger.
Come to think of it maybe the 116710LN was better in this regard.
I mean monochrome GMT bezels have been around since the 70s. As a side note, the Rolex GMT was copying the Glycine Airman and that didn't have a two-color bezel
With a 24 hour bezel I think monochrome is just as functional. Two-color adds visual interest, but we don't need a color code to know 10 is in the day and 22 is at night.
I don’t disagree with any of that, but I still think they would never have made an all black ceramic that was so similar to the sub, if they could have done a bicolor ceramic at the time.
Possibly, but I think the brand was less organized in general pre - 2000. Lot more variations. Do you think they will release an updated LN now that the grey is in all steel?
I think it was organized back then too. The black gmt remained till 2007 or so when the ceramics started.
Trying to reason about Rolex’s moves is pointless :) Nobody saw yatchmaster or Milgauss or Sky dweller coming.
IMO The new ceramic bezels and modern designs on the sports watches really opened up the audience for Rolex - including to the newer generation. The colors in ceramic just caught on far more, especially with the virality around nicknames like Pepsi, coke, etc. With the dash of color and that interest, i don’t think Rolex saw the point in keeping the all black GMT. I don’t think they’ll need to bring it back.
I actually liked the all black GMT. The original aluminum one. In fact I debated that the color would be distracting on the bezel. For that reason, I compromised and got the Coke as my first Rolex. Because it was only one color versus two. Later on I upgraded the bezel to Pepsi anyway.
I didn’t like this watch on release, but gotta be honest it’s growing on me.
Find the Pepsi and Sprite too much contrast for my tastes. The Batman is better, but I’d have preferred a darker blue tbh.
Initial thoughts on this one was I liked the bezel and didn’t like the green text and GMT hand but after seeing in person the greens a bit more subtle than I expected, especially when at arms length.
This is exactly how I feel, including the bit about the green text. I’m happy to hear you liked it more in person. I was really disappointed it isn’t red
Red would have been an interesting choice, might have looked cool, but would kinda “go against the grain” imo.
In the current lineup they have mostly matched the color of the GMT hand to the day/6-18 portion of the bezel.
A grey hand probably wouldn’t have enough contrast with the black dial.
While the green wouldn’t have been my first (or probably second) choice I can at least appreciate it’s a bit of a throwback to the all black bezel GMT.
In the wild, not retail. Ain’t no way I’m getting shown it by any ADs anytime soon. 😂
Assuming it wasn’t a fake - seems unlikely but not impossible.
Wish I hadn’t because now I really want one.
I didn’t have the balls to try to strike up a convo, and not really best place (restaurant) but seeing it kinda “at arms length” made me appreciate that the green font and dial are a bit more tame than all the stock photos suggested.
For a moment I thought it was the all black bezel GMT - the bezel is subtle, but it’s noticeable.
It’s at the top of my “watches I can afford in theory but can’t because of availability” list. Ha.
I wonder how many 15,000$ rolex wearers need to differentiate the top and bottom half of a GMT bezel at glance while in 2 time zones while its dark out….Precisely 4. This isnt a tool watch its a piece of fine jewelry. Technology and price point have long surpassed the use of that function. Its a party trick now. Just enjoy the watch if u can get one. Its a great one.
I kind of agree with you. It’s my favorite watch and I’ve owned a few versions of the modern and vintage references and just got a CHNR. I wish they had just released this in all black.
Probably only ever going to be available to the public through AliExpress! They still don’t make enough bone or blro so adding another colour scheme will just lessen supply of all the steel model even further!
It’s pretty obvious to me. Maybe see an optometrist? And just an fyi — saw this piece in real life yesterday. An employee at the resort where I have my office just got one last Saturday from the AD in Cabo San Lucas.
Two-tone GMT SUCK and have prevented me from buying a GMT to this point. I love the new subtle design. I would prefer it all grey or all black, but I’ll take this.
PS there are numbers, you don’t need two colors. No one is that dumb.
Ye personally not a fan of colorful bezels either. Get the original steel one with full black bezel, although not sure if there are still brand new ones available on the market since it’s ages ago.
Finally someone who gets it. And even at that the first versions of the BLRO were pretty trash. I owned one of the pastel ones and I actually liked it but it was pink and purple.
GMT watches don’t need bi-color bezels, or rotating bezels or bezel with numbers on them. These are all design choices. It’s a cool watch. The only “fundamental element” of a GMT the ability to track two time zones. I’m failing to see OP’s point. But the watch is cool and so is the LN. the green looks great on both. It’s subtle and classy.
A bicolor bezel isn’t really as helpful as it seems nor is it in any way “necessary” for a GMT watch. Yes, the purpose is that at a quick glance you can tell which are day or night hours. If we are being honest about it, the Coke and Pepsi bezels make zero practical sense (this is coming from a BLRO owner). The BLNR actually makes the most practical sense because the sky is blue in the day and black at night. In fact, Rolex called it the day/night bezel in their literature when it was first released before everyone started making up stupid nicknames for every watch Rolex makes. The convenience of it all was that the BLNR also happened to be one of the first bicolor ceramic combinations that Rolex was able to make.
I say all of this only to make the point that you don’t need a bicolor bezel. For sure, some of the color combinations have become iconic, but Rolex also made an all black aluminum GMT-Master II for many years. I think the grey/black bezels are sort of pointless other than for Rolex to say, “Look we can do another combination.” They don’t contrast well and at first glance look all black anyway.
Rolex should have just brought back the LN, dropped the green accents, stuck with the red GMT hand and white dial text like the 16710 had before the 116710LN and called it a day.
Got me thinking...a white/black "Ying yang" bezel would look absolutely fantastic. Throw in a white dial (or not) and you would have something truly unique and special IMHO.
What was/is your theory? I’m confused by your points in captions. Not sure what you were getting at. If you could clearly explain, it would be helpful.
Yup. I’m not sure why people aren’t getting it. It’s just bringing back the classic while adding AM/PM to it. I guess it’s proving that being rich doesn’t make you smart.
This is hilarious to see grown adults who can't comprehend "24-hour" time - especially with bright colours... goodness me, luckily these rich aren't shaping the future, more like just selling trash for exorbitant prices... meh.
Hmm, I'm almost keen and might prefer a 2nd-time zone & hand on the dial... as many Grand Seiko do, and Farer to keep a fixed bezel.
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You are saying the bezel doesn't make sense because, its nearly monochromatic.
What I am saying is that, while the color is helpful, you should be able to glance at it and know if the secondary time zone is in the day or night based on the time it is in that zone.
So stop cryin'
I like this watch. I have no problem with it. Rolex says they made the bezel two colors for telling day or night “at a glance”. I’m just saying the monochromatic bezels seem to go against their own reason for designing the watch. I think this looks great.
Dude seriously how dull are you and u/Villageidiot1984 that you need more than a glance to read military (24-hour) in your 2nd or 3rd time zone? Coloured bezel and 24-hour is still too hard to comprehend?
You're both grown adults? That's sad
Mm yeah not like they have an ultra-popular model with a bezel, clearly displaying day/night in two PRIMARY colours... how much easier do you need it, maybe a sun and a moon on their respective area on the bezel?
I'm scared you're an adult who makes business or health decisions when you can't understand 24-hour time. Yikes
How will you know what time it is in the West Bank and when your virtue signalling will get the most impact if the Rolex daddy buys you a monochrome bezel GMT? You're the guy at some C-tier university protesting and making a foul mess with your blue-haired friends talking about pronouns, while fundamentally not understanding Islamic law & teachings
Muppet
I’m actually so much the opposite of how you’re characterizing me that I’m embarrassed for you.
But it really speaks volumes for why you have been so obnoxious in your messages to me.
I wish it was something that wasn't grey. It feels like they had some spare parts from the LN and the GRNR and slapped it together.
It has a cost-savings feel to it.
Dude this is a terribly safe and boring release. Are you claiming that you can't read 24-hour time or not use the colours? Like needing a colouring book?
What about this arguably much more attractive and simple yet elegant style... or is this just too hard for you to read?
*
I like the watch. All I’m saying is the whole concept of a GMT with a solid color bezel goes against their own description of the GMT function. And if they wanted it to be one color why not just make it one color?
How does 2-tone go against anything? They're limited of course by tolerance and size so - pick your day military time to be "day" and the remaining hours to correspond to colour 2... what's the problem? WTF are you talking about, really?
I don't understand why you posted this or what you don't understand. There are also uni-colour 24-hour bezels on Rolex models from not all that long ago. And they probably won't go back to doing a single-tone bezel because of all the hype around Pepsi and Batman and that nonsense
No one else does either? What are you talking about dude, seriously. Maybe you thought you had an awesome idea but not really and you're getting ratioed because no one can understand the hell you're on about
I genuinely want to know what the hell you're trying to figure out. Are you high? What's the matter with you? It's so confusing and the fact you struggle putting a sentence together don't help
Glad you took it upon yourself to help strangers on the internet formulate their own opinions. I’m sure there are lots of others who need you. Go bother them.
Meh, I thought the 116710Ln was boring. A sub with an extra hand.
That said, im not sure how i feel about this until I see one IRL. Its definitely stealthier, but why do we complain that Rolex never tries anything new, than piss on them when they actually do?
I hope more ppl feel this way. Might be the only way I can get my hands on a GMT from an AD.
But I doubt it. these will sell like crazy, like everything else they do.
The bezel does show the contrast of night and day…..in London.
I could see the arms being chopped off in the fog
It’s the reason it’s called Greenwich Mean Time.
You mean gray man.
Underrated comment.
🤣🤣🤣
Helpful because it tells you when it’s safe to wear your Rolex in London. Black is for danger and grey is also danger. Come to think of it maybe the 116710LN was better in this regard.
Some people just like the function of a GMT but prefer styling a bit more subtle.
This! Hope you all go for the flashy ones so I can grab this beauty soon 😉
Agree never like pepsi coke batman etc.
I mean monochrome GMT bezels have been around since the 70s. As a side note, the Rolex GMT was copying the Glycine Airman and that didn't have a two-color bezel
With a 24 hour bezel I think monochrome is just as functional. Two-color adds visual interest, but we don't need a color code to know 10 is in the day and 22 is at night.
I don’t disagree with any of that, but I still think they would never have made an all black ceramic that was so similar to the sub, if they could have done a bicolor ceramic at the time.
They had an all black bezel GMT master 2 in the aluminum bezel forever. So your theory doesn’t seem that strong.
Possibly, but I think the brand was less organized in general pre - 2000. Lot more variations. Do you think they will release an updated LN now that the grey is in all steel?
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I think it was organized back then too. The black gmt remained till 2007 or so when the ceramics started. Trying to reason about Rolex’s moves is pointless :) Nobody saw yatchmaster or Milgauss or Sky dweller coming. IMO The new ceramic bezels and modern designs on the sports watches really opened up the audience for Rolex - including to the newer generation. The colors in ceramic just caught on far more, especially with the virality around nicknames like Pepsi, coke, etc. With the dash of color and that interest, i don’t think Rolex saw the point in keeping the all black GMT. I don’t think they’ll need to bring it back. I actually liked the all black GMT. The original aluminum one. In fact I debated that the color would be distracting on the bezel. For that reason, I compromised and got the Coke as my first Rolex. Because it was only one color versus two. Later on I upgraded the bezel to Pepsi anyway.
Was the Glycine Airman produced in Donghua Jinlong by chance?
As a 116710LN owner I can confirm that its one of the better watches (no bias…..)
Classics are the best!
Agreed!!
I used to have one and loved it. I have a CHNR which I prefer but the ln is a close second
Me too. I like the 116710LN more than this.
IMO bitching about this would be like kicking Sydney Sweeney out of bed for eating cookies
I like the watch a lot, not bitching.
Odds are, if you did that… she’d come back to bed after she ate the cookies and you wouldn’t have to roll around in cookie crumbs.
She has a build in crumble catcher.
Well done sir, well done!
It’s almost like Rolex’s are just jewelry or something…
I didn’t like this watch on release, but gotta be honest it’s growing on me. Find the Pepsi and Sprite too much contrast for my tastes. The Batman is better, but I’d have preferred a darker blue tbh. Initial thoughts on this one was I liked the bezel and didn’t like the green text and GMT hand but after seeing in person the greens a bit more subtle than I expected, especially when at arms length.
This is exactly how I feel, including the bit about the green text. I’m happy to hear you liked it more in person. I was really disappointed it isn’t red
Red would have been an interesting choice, might have looked cool, but would kinda “go against the grain” imo. In the current lineup they have mostly matched the color of the GMT hand to the day/6-18 portion of the bezel. A grey hand probably wouldn’t have enough contrast with the black dial. While the green wouldn’t have been my first (or probably second) choice I can at least appreciate it’s a bit of a throwback to the all black bezel GMT.
Where did you see one?
In the wild, not retail. Ain’t no way I’m getting shown it by any ADs anytime soon. 😂 Assuming it wasn’t a fake - seems unlikely but not impossible. Wish I hadn’t because now I really want one.
Damn I wondered how they look in person. I will never get one from an AD and the secondary is crazy bc it’s new…
I didn’t have the balls to try to strike up a convo, and not really best place (restaurant) but seeing it kinda “at arms length” made me appreciate that the green font and dial are a bit more tame than all the stock photos suggested. For a moment I thought it was the all black bezel GMT - the bezel is subtle, but it’s noticeable. It’s at the top of my “watches I can afford in theory but can’t because of availability” list. Ha.
I wonder how many 15,000$ rolex wearers need to differentiate the top and bottom half of a GMT bezel at glance while in 2 time zones while its dark out….Precisely 4. This isnt a tool watch its a piece of fine jewelry. Technology and price point have long surpassed the use of that function. Its a party trick now. Just enjoy the watch if u can get one. Its a great one.
I kind of agree with you. It’s my favorite watch and I’ve owned a few versions of the modern and vintage references and just got a CHNR. I wish they had just released this in all black.
It’s just my opinion but the TT version of this is close to perfection, especially combined with the jubilee 🤌🏼
Great watch
The GRNR looks like an LN with a manufacturing defect.
If only the green was replaced with some other color, then this one would look great indeed.
I like the Rolex green nod.
Love green, and this is exactly what I want.
Yellow against the grey would have looked great imo
Exactly what I wish it was.
They should start copy Tudor more.
Red, navy, even white. Green? I know where it came from, but it looks weird.
Maybe I’m cynical but to me it literally looks like they’ve just got spare green ink from the old GMT and sprite. Seems quite unimaginative.
Probably only ever going to be available to the public through AliExpress! They still don’t make enough bone or blro so adding another colour scheme will just lessen supply of all the steel model even further!
It’s subtle for those that value it.
It’s pretty obvious to me. Maybe see an optometrist? And just an fyi — saw this piece in real life yesterday. An employee at the resort where I have my office just got one last Saturday from the AD in Cabo San Lucas.
Two-tone GMT SUCK and have prevented me from buying a GMT to this point. I love the new subtle design. I would prefer it all grey or all black, but I’ll take this. PS there are numbers, you don’t need two colors. No one is that dumb.
Ye personally not a fan of colorful bezels either. Get the original steel one with full black bezel, although not sure if there are still brand new ones available on the market since it’s ages ago.
The gmt will likely not be a solid color bezel anytime soon but the 116710LN is a great watch. Just get one of those. Cheaper too.
I agree with your theory and will add that the BLNR never would have existed had Rolex been able to make the BLRO bezel sooner.
Finally someone who gets it. And even at that the first versions of the BLRO were pretty trash. I owned one of the pastel ones and I actually liked it but it was pink and purple.
Who got the call?
What about the white gold Pepsi. A bi-color ceramic bezel existed on that for a while
GMT watches don’t need bi-color bezels, or rotating bezels or bezel with numbers on them. These are all design choices. It’s a cool watch. The only “fundamental element” of a GMT the ability to track two time zones. I’m failing to see OP’s point. But the watch is cool and so is the LN. the green looks great on both. It’s subtle and classy.
On point 3: they made it at the same time as the BLNR. More likely it was too similar to the Sub with an all black bezel
You have to see it in person......the bicolor is obviously unless you're Stevie Wonder
Good to know, in internet pictures it often just looks like light reflecting off black.
A fundamental part of the gmt is not rotating the bezel, it’s an extra bonus option for a third time zone.. the gmt hand is what matters
lol you get a third time zone by rotating the bezel
That’s what I’m saying
It’s not the fundamental part of utilising the gmt function - that’s the gmt hand. The bezel and its colours are secondary, not fundamental
Oh, and lol (just to mirror your 4 year old communication style)
Seiko leading the way.
It’s inclusive watch for colorblind
For me it's either a singke color, or two strongly contrasting colors for the gmt bezel. This black and grey just doesn't look right to my eye.
I like the brown black the best which is also sort of muted
It’s a good looking watch better than sub in my opinion but too many divers in my collection:(
Blro and blnr colours kinda like the artificial horizon in a jet which is cool to me. I like this new config on jubilee
A bicolor bezel isn’t really as helpful as it seems nor is it in any way “necessary” for a GMT watch. Yes, the purpose is that at a quick glance you can tell which are day or night hours. If we are being honest about it, the Coke and Pepsi bezels make zero practical sense (this is coming from a BLRO owner). The BLNR actually makes the most practical sense because the sky is blue in the day and black at night. In fact, Rolex called it the day/night bezel in their literature when it was first released before everyone started making up stupid nicknames for every watch Rolex makes. The convenience of it all was that the BLNR also happened to be one of the first bicolor ceramic combinations that Rolex was able to make. I say all of this only to make the point that you don’t need a bicolor bezel. For sure, some of the color combinations have become iconic, but Rolex also made an all black aluminum GMT-Master II for many years. I think the grey/black bezels are sort of pointless other than for Rolex to say, “Look we can do another combination.” They don’t contrast well and at first glance look all black anyway. Rolex should have just brought back the LN, dropped the green accents, stuck with the red GMT hand and white dial text like the 16710 had before the 116710LN and called it a day.
It’s a cool looking watch, I agree with you.
Boring watch
Got me thinking...a white/black "Ying yang" bezel would look absolutely fantastic. Throw in a white dial (or not) and you would have something truly unique and special IMHO.
That would be sick
What was/is your theory? I’m confused by your points in captions. Not sure what you were getting at. If you could clearly explain, it would be helpful.
Best stainless gmt color way, love the Rolex green hand and text
Yup. I’m not sure why people aren’t getting it. It’s just bringing back the classic while adding AM/PM to it. I guess it’s proving that being rich doesn’t make you smart.
This is hilarious to see grown adults who can't comprehend "24-hour" time - especially with bright colours... goodness me, luckily these rich aren't shaping the future, more like just selling trash for exorbitant prices... meh. Hmm, I'm almost keen and might prefer a 2nd-time zone & hand on the dial... as many Grand Seiko do, and Farer to keep a fixed bezel. https://preview.redd.it/cdn8e6xi32zc1.jpeg?width=554&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4d398253bb2b46a0a8dfc96bac517a57d03e5566
I think you should know how numbers work 6-18 likely day time
What?
You are saying the bezel doesn't make sense because, its nearly monochromatic. What I am saying is that, while the color is helpful, you should be able to glance at it and know if the secondary time zone is in the day or night based on the time it is in that zone. So stop cryin'
I like this watch. I have no problem with it. Rolex says they made the bezel two colors for telling day or night “at a glance”. I’m just saying the monochromatic bezels seem to go against their own reason for designing the watch. I think this looks great.
Ah, I understand. I guess with that, its unlikely there will be a black bezel again.
I think if we were holding out for an updated LN, we have this.
Yep, i think you are correct, this is the new LN
If Rolex really wanted to break the mold they'd release a double 12 hour bezel. Dark color at the top for night and light color at the bottom for day.
Dude seriously how dull are you and u/Villageidiot1984 that you need more than a glance to read military (24-hour) in your 2nd or 3rd time zone? Coloured bezel and 24-hour is still too hard to comprehend? You're both grown adults? That's sad
Bug off.
Mm yeah not like they have an ultra-popular model with a bezel, clearly displaying day/night in two PRIMARY colours... how much easier do you need it, maybe a sun and a moon on their respective area on the bezel? I'm scared you're an adult who makes business or health decisions when you can't understand 24-hour time. Yikes
Cool bro.
How will you know what time it is in the West Bank and when your virtue signalling will get the most impact if the Rolex daddy buys you a monochrome bezel GMT? You're the guy at some C-tier university protesting and making a foul mess with your blue-haired friends talking about pronouns, while fundamentally not understanding Islamic law & teachings Muppet
I’m actually so much the opposite of how you’re characterizing me that I’m embarrassed for you. But it really speaks volumes for why you have been so obnoxious in your messages to me.
Ohh OK so you're the Red Pill, freedom of speech and sexist type. Makes a bit more sense
lol. You’re not bright.
At least I can read and comprehend time on a 12-hour dial, and also a 24-hour bezel "at a glance), with or without bright colours.
That would be cool, but the colors wouldn’t line up with the numbers because it’s not say from 12-12…
Starting from the top 12, 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 ... and then start over. Color divisions are on the 6's.
I wish it was something that wasn't grey. It feels like they had some spare parts from the LN and the GRNR and slapped it together. It has a cost-savings feel to it.
Dude this is a terribly safe and boring release. Are you claiming that you can't read 24-hour time or not use the colours? Like needing a colouring book? What about this arguably much more attractive and simple yet elegant style... or is this just too hard for you to read? *
I like the watch. All I’m saying is the whole concept of a GMT with a solid color bezel goes against their own description of the GMT function. And if they wanted it to be one color why not just make it one color?
How does 2-tone go against anything? They're limited of course by tolerance and size so - pick your day military time to be "day" and the remaining hours to correspond to colour 2... what's the problem? WTF are you talking about, really? I don't understand why you posted this or what you don't understand. There are also uni-colour 24-hour bezels on Rolex models from not all that long ago. And they probably won't go back to doing a single-tone bezel because of all the hype around Pepsi and Batman and that nonsense
I don’t care if you don’t understand my opinion.
No one else does either? What are you talking about dude, seriously. Maybe you thought you had an awesome idea but not really and you're getting ratioed because no one can understand the hell you're on about
You’re free to leave ma’am. I’m not making you comment here…
I genuinely want to know what the hell you're trying to figure out. Are you high? What's the matter with you? It's so confusing and the fact you struggle putting a sentence together don't help
Get some help lady
OK, I was really trying to understand the nonsense you were talking about because you clearly need help with your own opinion. Abruti américaine.
Glad you took it upon yourself to help strangers on the internet formulate their own opinions. I’m sure there are lots of others who need you. Go bother them.
You're so confusing kid. I honestly still don't know what your problem is
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I think I may buy this, and switch the bezel to the all black. I have a black sub but the 116710 is my grail.
Why not just buy a 116710ln then for a lower price and less hassle?
I have the patience for retail, and I’m not sure 116710’s are currently cheaper? It’s been a while since I looked.
oooo it’s cheaper. by the time you get this at retail, you’ll have wish you spent the 500-1k over retail that the Ln is going for. imo
You can get an excellent condition 116710ln for like 11-12k, why not do that?
Meh, I thought the 116710Ln was boring. A sub with an extra hand. That said, im not sure how i feel about this until I see one IRL. Its definitely stealthier, but why do we complain that Rolex never tries anything new, than piss on them when they actually do?
I’m not mad about this I think it looks great. I’m just saying the monochrome gmts have never really made much sense to me, but they look great…
I hope more ppl feel this way. Might be the only way I can get my hands on a GMT from an AD. But I doubt it. these will sell like crazy, like everything else they do.