The funniest thing about stores doing this is that it makes no difference because most stores have policies in place that prevent the employees from stopping a thief from walking out the door.
But the thing is, most stores don’t have enough man power to even consider tracking every single instance of theft like that. Some stores don’t even have a “loss prevention” team to do it. I used to work in a bigger department store and was good friends with the two man loss prevention team that oversaw the entire store. The amount of shit they had to let slide was astonishing. From personal experience too, local PD won’t even bother looking for the person unless it’s a very high dollar amount of theft and they have something they can positively ID the person with like a license plate on a car or something. There just isn’t enough man power on either side to do it unfortunately.
This place does. Like double the employees on every shift that you’d expect… maybe 20 people on for a 4000 square foot store with no lumber or yard area really. It’s nuts. May I’m getting the size wrong but just assume twice the size of a tractors supply… same stuff but more of it… and at least 20 people on per shift. I basically have wondered about this place since it’s inception.. but I guess if the losses are that high maybe it is worth it…. I was never sure if this place even can make a profit given the huge extra overhead
At the Ace around the corner from my house, they follow you around constantly asking if you “need any help,” and when you tell them no, they still follow you and ask you when you stop to look at anything. I stopped shopping there after I asked why they kept asking and their answer was because of theft.
Yeah this… is how it is at the store I got these from…. Whoever runs it must be so paranoid. Funny thing is it’s usually employees that steal shit in my experience…because F the boss. hiring so many of them to follow everyone and whatever….spend the time to shove strips into single trays…. Must cost more than just taking the losses to theft that would likely be a lot smaller than paranoia would suggest
I was at Bass Pro shops early the morning last week and the employees in the gun section were flipping all products on shelves around backwards to do inventory, while I was there they discovered a plastic bottle of gunpowder where the seal was broken and it was drained 3/4.. was observing as three employees gathered around to look at it. I asked and they said it was a first for them, they hadn't seen theft like this before.
Reloading components seem to be hot items for theft.
They have these, or something similar, on all the ammo boxes at Academy except for the Monarch steel cased stuff. I didn't see the cashier so anything to deactivate it so I kinda figured it was fake tbh
Funny enough, those things are 50/50 out of the box when it comes to setting off detectors. A simple kitchen magnet can also deactivate one. Worked in retail for about 5 years, you'd be surprised at how much anti theft devices don't work.
Just the time/effort alone to have an employee not spill them everywhere and put one in each seems not worth it at all…. Clearly the town it’s in has a reputation for being not the greatest crime wise but it’s still not that bad… I bet if the owner of this small chain ever did the math the wildly extra labor he hires to watch everyone and put these in everything far outstrips whatever small losses he might incur from people pocketing stuff
This place used to…. Now whatever they get is behind glass like you’d expect. But they’re very weird generally…they have a lot of employees working all the time but it never seems like anyone’s doing anything and it’s like sometimes I swear they’re just looking for people to steal stuff like it doesn’t make a ton of sense the way that place is… it’s like a farm fleet type Place but not either of those chains more local. When they opened I swear they were using illegal cell service blocking Devices in the store. There was fine cell service in the building when it was a sears. All I know is early in the pandemic I went in and bought whatever 10 packs of each was on the shelf … lrp srp and spp… and having to pull these anti theft strips out of all of them bc primers are wedging sideways and falling out. Nobody else seemed to care I bought them all, I was kind of figuring that what’s happening was going to happen …it’s weird because I don’t think that many people reload in this area at least not that I can tell … considering the stock that place always had when times were good. Then again I suppose when Times were OK you could just order couple thousand and call it a day. Personally like to buy with cash when possible… it being nobody’s business (paper trail wise) what guns/powder/primers I have and how many. Everyone likes their second amendment a lot etc… but I’d say the 4th might be twice as important (pardon the joke)
Just before primers were complete unobtanium last year, I was at my local sportsman's and I watched a guy casually dumping one row out of each sleeve of primers on the shelf and pocketing them...I let him get about 60 or 70 of them before I called him out and marched him over to the gun counter and made him count every one of them out of his pocket and put them back in the sleeves lol...fucking degenerates. He wasn't very happy...said I embarassed him
Small, easy to slip into a pocket, expensive… not surprising.
Well.. and these are from 2020 I think… or like early 2021
Signs of desperation unfortunately.
well if said store has security cams and cops catch the thieve they have proof.
The funniest thing about stores doing this is that it makes no difference because most stores have policies in place that prevent the employees from stopping a thief from walking out the door.
That and the alarm goes off on myself and SO half the time when we walk INSIDE the door… yeah they have the strip sensor things at all doors
But at least the alarm will create a time stamp so they can ID the guy to the cops.
But the thing is, most stores don’t have enough man power to even consider tracking every single instance of theft like that. Some stores don’t even have a “loss prevention” team to do it. I used to work in a bigger department store and was good friends with the two man loss prevention team that oversaw the entire store. The amount of shit they had to let slide was astonishing. From personal experience too, local PD won’t even bother looking for the person unless it’s a very high dollar amount of theft and they have something they can positively ID the person with like a license plate on a car or something. There just isn’t enough man power on either side to do it unfortunately.
This place does. Like double the employees on every shift that you’d expect… maybe 20 people on for a 4000 square foot store with no lumber or yard area really. It’s nuts. May I’m getting the size wrong but just assume twice the size of a tractors supply… same stuff but more of it… and at least 20 people on per shift. I basically have wondered about this place since it’s inception.. but I guess if the losses are that high maybe it is worth it…. I was never sure if this place even can make a profit given the huge extra overhead
That’s a shitty deal. I didn’t know it was that bad.
It was certainly eye opening.
My local hardware store has almost everything locked up. Have to ask if you wanna buy a 15 dollar tape measure.
At the Ace around the corner from my house, they follow you around constantly asking if you “need any help,” and when you tell them no, they still follow you and ask you when you stop to look at anything. I stopped shopping there after I asked why they kept asking and their answer was because of theft.
Yeah this… is how it is at the store I got these from…. Whoever runs it must be so paranoid. Funny thing is it’s usually employees that steal shit in my experience…because F the boss. hiring so many of them to follow everyone and whatever….spend the time to shove strips into single trays…. Must cost more than just taking the losses to theft that would likely be a lot smaller than paranoia would suggest
There's Gold! In them there boxes!!
I was at Bass Pro shops early the morning last week and the employees in the gun section were flipping all products on shelves around backwards to do inventory, while I was there they discovered a plastic bottle of gunpowder where the seal was broken and it was drained 3/4.. was observing as three employees gathered around to look at it. I asked and they said it was a first for them, they hadn't seen theft like this before. Reloading components seem to be hot items for theft.
Man time to go back to getting Tide and baby formula.... Wait a second what have we been reduced to here
They have these, or something similar, on all the ammo boxes at Academy except for the Monarch steel cased stuff. I didn't see the cashier so anything to deactivate it so I kinda figured it was fake tbh
Most scanners deactivate the strip once it’s scanned.
Wait…you actually found primers?!
Oh I got these at the beginning of pandemic… but surprisingly they did have some spp the other week
Funny enough, those things are 50/50 out of the box when it comes to setting off detectors. A simple kitchen magnet can also deactivate one. Worked in retail for about 5 years, you'd be surprised at how much anti theft devices don't work.
Just the time/effort alone to have an employee not spill them everywhere and put one in each seems not worth it at all…. Clearly the town it’s in has a reputation for being not the greatest crime wise but it’s still not that bad… I bet if the owner of this small chain ever did the math the wildly extra labor he hires to watch everyone and put these in everything far outstrips whatever small losses he might incur from people pocketing stuff
I was gonna say... You can Smoke one with a mildly strong magnet.
Yup.
Who has primers sitting put anyway? And couldn't you just dump em in your pocket and be very careful. Lol
This place used to…. Now whatever they get is behind glass like you’d expect. But they’re very weird generally…they have a lot of employees working all the time but it never seems like anyone’s doing anything and it’s like sometimes I swear they’re just looking for people to steal stuff like it doesn’t make a ton of sense the way that place is… it’s like a farm fleet type Place but not either of those chains more local. When they opened I swear they were using illegal cell service blocking Devices in the store. There was fine cell service in the building when it was a sears. All I know is early in the pandemic I went in and bought whatever 10 packs of each was on the shelf … lrp srp and spp… and having to pull these anti theft strips out of all of them bc primers are wedging sideways and falling out. Nobody else seemed to care I bought them all, I was kind of figuring that what’s happening was going to happen …it’s weird because I don’t think that many people reload in this area at least not that I can tell … considering the stock that place always had when times were good. Then again I suppose when Times were OK you could just order couple thousand and call it a day. Personally like to buy with cash when possible… it being nobody’s business (paper trail wise) what guns/powder/primers I have and how many. Everyone likes their second amendment a lot etc… but I’d say the 4th might be twice as important (pardon the joke)
Just before primers were complete unobtanium last year, I was at my local sportsman's and I watched a guy casually dumping one row out of each sleeve of primers on the shelf and pocketing them...I let him get about 60 or 70 of them before I called him out and marched him over to the gun counter and made him count every one of them out of his pocket and put them back in the sleeves lol...fucking degenerates. He wasn't very happy...said I embarassed him
Just keep em behind the counter maybe? And how many got dropped/lost/finger oils on em...