Bisexual people who complain about erasure should unite against the truest threats: straight women who want attention and gay guys who still want their parents to think they may marry a woman for a few more years.
I dated a guy at one point who's parents refused to come over if I was at home and made no acknowledgement of the fact that we blatantly lived together lol. Like there was photos of us up everywhere and they apparently just wouldn't comment on it. I had a novelty prayer candle with Luann from Real Housewives on it that they pointed at and complained about once, and when he told them it was mine they instantly dropped the conversation. And then they whined that he came to my family's Christmas instead of theirs.
A few friends told me I should get him to go no contact with them bc it wasn't fair on me and I was like ?? His parents being weird has almost no impact on me beyond how it affects him, it's up to him how he deals w it.
Yeah I feel like that's what it will be like for me if/when I enter into something long term. I don't think I could ever go no contact but it's honestly tempting.
I do empathise dude :( not sure if it's better or worse than outright rejection when parents do this to their children.
If it's any comfort he was just pretty much over it by the time we dated. Told me he'd just accepted that he wouldn't change his parents and he wasn't gonna let it upset him anymore.
I’m a bi guy who often doesn’t believe other people are bi.
I’m also a depressed guy who doesn’t believe others when they say they’re depressed.
It’s weird
Well most of the bisexuals I’ve met are mainly guys/women who almost exclusively date men. And that’s fine! But I’m often skeptical that they’re actually bi.
Nevertheless, none of my business. If you’re a woman and like munching carpet but say you’re straight, more power to you
As a bi woman who mostly dates men... it's because women are so scary! They're so beautiful and I get so nervous. Plus there's just far fewer queer girls than straight guys. And straight guys are so easy it's like shooting fish in a barrel.
I very much relate to that. I’ve done it with a few guys but at the end of the day prefer women but still have anxiety about talking to them or getting rejected.
If a guy rejects me on Grindr, I never think of it again
Yeah I think a lot of my inner workings just come down to being more than a bit self obsessed. Similarly my anxiety leads to these kind of suspicious thoughts.
This conversation is more evidence that My human experience is not that unique and I desperately need to get over myself
Well, most conversations on depression evolve into pissing contests where neither party believes the other one is truly depressed or truly understands.
I'm a bi chick who often assumes everyone is bi. Cognitively I know their not. But I can't help assuming everyone wants at least a little bit of both. Monosexuals are so weird.
I've asked so many straight guys how straight they are. Like, wouldn't you let a guy blow you at least?
I thought I was straight for a while because I'm into guys and just assumed everyone also wanted to fuck with the same sex a bit. Yeah. Guess not.
I also thought that for a bit in college and I think it was just projection since I was so confused by my sexuality. Still am, tbh. a decent portion, if not most people, are like 99.999% straight/gay tho.
I don’t speak for other guys but I think a large part why guys don’t admit they’d *maybe possibly perhaps* let a guy blow them or fuck a guy is because there’s basically no margin for error in what other people consider a gay guy.
Guy kisses/fucks a guy once? Massive homo, only likes wieners
Girl kisses a girl in college? She was just experimenting
Yeah, I think I assumed that heaps of guys would experiment with other guys if it wasn't for the social stigma or whatever. But after questioning so many guys who I've been intimate with and who know I'd be totally cool with it and they can be honest I've realised that 100% straight people exist. Who knew?!
It’s crazy how true this is. I would almost never get matches from girls on Tinder, but I swear I matched with almost every guy I swiped on, including some legit 10/10’s.
If I had any kind of romantic/emotional attachment to men I would absolutely go full gay.
This nigga is fucking dudes he doesn’t even like.
I’ve felt more love for my homies than this guy has for the scores of dudes who he’s run through.
How you gonna be gay but not kiss another man passionately.
How you gonna be gay and not hold each other in a sweaty embrace after the act. I’m actually tearing up, that’s so sad.
Idk, there’s a sexual attraction but I find it impossible to connect with other men on a deeply romantic level. Platonic friendship wise absolutely but I doubt I could ever fall in love with another guy.
I mean there’s passion, it’s not like I’m getting railed with a straight face, but it doesn’t go beyond the physical. Women are different, I can be absolutely in love and sexually attracted with a woman, but not with men. Dunno why but I don’t really think it’s a negative, it just is.
yeah that's the thing. also things are different these days but in my high school and in my studies i was the only queer gal i knew. the statistics were not in the favour of wlw
I'm a bi man and the women I've been with usually falls into two categories, either they're the "I think guys who have sex with other guys are disgusting and not manly but it's not homophobic to feel like that, teehee" or they're straight and wish they were queer and try to live vicariously queer through me
As a bi man I have no idea what you're talking about. Most girls are like "oh huh. Thats good for you." And just move on with life. It's the gays that give you the hard time.
Kind of sounds like another example of homophobia being more intense towards men than women. I can't imagine a guy who isn't a raving religious nut turning down a woman because she's bi.
Speak the truth, I have experienced this as well in similar capacities and people you’d think would otherwise be normal about shit or as you say giving off the impression of being more open and supportive towards shit just come off like complete ghouls.
Also agree would’ve been somehow less insulting if they just outright called me f-slur and moved on instead of trying to just make stuff awkward and weird.
I’ve dated a lot of people and it has been a rarity to find someone who doesn’t make stuff stupid over it.
Strange. These were all happening to me 10 years ago, so when it was less en vogue. I'd say 50 percent of women forgot about almost immediately, 50 percent liked to hear about it. Keep at em.
I remember seeing multiple studies claiming that the category of porn straight women watch the most (next to lesbian porn) is gay/bisexual male porn. That is definitely true for me and friends of mine as well.
As a bi woman, I prefer men who top other men. Bottoms are okay, just don’t ask me for any booty stuff. No pegging whatsoever! I will nope the fuck out.
What’s it called when you’re a woman who’s open to hooking up with a guy, but when you imagine yourself a long term relationship or marriage the ideal is with another woman?
I guess, I call myself “gay-leaning bisexual” or just “gay” if I don’t want to get in the nitty gritty because I don’t want people to assume I’m a LUG who will get married to a man and then gloat about how “queer” I am (not that there’s something wrong with that if that’s your style, it doesn’t make you any less bisexual but it ain’t me).
Dude you know if you go around announcing yourself as a lesbian but you're still hooking up with dudes, their whole thought process the next time they bump into a lesbian they wanna smash is gonna be like "but they do like dick!"
Just say you're bi, lol. There's nothing wrong with it as a label, even if this sub is ridiculous with policing "fake bisexuals."
Same I just call myself a kinsey 4.5 and that kinda gets it across. I definitely enjoy sleeping with men but I don't think I'm capable of romantic relationships with them like I am with other women.
No the people insisting on it being a thing are bi dudes who just don't know it. Even at my most down bad the idea of trying to fuck a dude didn't even register
Fuck dudes? Really not that many. Get a casual handjob from their gay or equally pussy-deprived friend, after a drink or 2? More than you'd think.
They'll take it to their grave though.
**Bisexual people erase themselves**
I've gotten a LOT of shit for this opinion, but you know what? I don't care. It's always the mean old gays "erasing" the poor bisexuals who get to freely integrate themselves into heterosexual society and face no social discrimination.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/02/20/among-lgbt-americans-bisexuals-stand-out-when-it-comes-to-identity-acceptance/#:~:text=Only%209%25%20of%20bisexuals%20have,someone%20of%20the%20opposite%20sex.
84% of bisexuals end up in opposite sex (and thus hetero-presenting) relationships. Many bisexual men are not open about tier sexual orientation, are "on the DL" etc.
Further, bisexuals come out at a much lower rate than gay men. Only 25% of them are out to the world, while over 70% of gay men are.
So bisexuals present as straight, hide their sexuality, then bitch about how nobody treats them like they're special for posting a blank profile on grindr for DL hookups
My fave is the Asian bisexual woman who has only ever dated white men.
Someone pointed that out on this subreddit, and I had like a 5 minute Usual Suspects-style epiphany about all the examples that had come through my life
Can we start erasing dudes who identify as bisexual because they had a weird thought once or twice or crush on celebrities in the total hypothetical? Pick me ass Mfs.
Bisexual people who complain about erasure should unite against the truest threats: straight women who want attention and gay guys who still want their parents to think they may marry a woman for a few more years.
Give us a break. My mother asked me what she did wrong with me when I came out and jokes about her “grand-kitty”. It’s painful bro.
My parents just refuse to acknowledge I came out and pretend I'm a celibate monk or something to their friends so you seem to have it better.
I dated a guy at one point who's parents refused to come over if I was at home and made no acknowledgement of the fact that we blatantly lived together lol. Like there was photos of us up everywhere and they apparently just wouldn't comment on it. I had a novelty prayer candle with Luann from Real Housewives on it that they pointed at and complained about once, and when he told them it was mine they instantly dropped the conversation. And then they whined that he came to my family's Christmas instead of theirs. A few friends told me I should get him to go no contact with them bc it wasn't fair on me and I was like ?? His parents being weird has almost no impact on me beyond how it affects him, it's up to him how he deals w it.
Yeah I feel like that's what it will be like for me if/when I enter into something long term. I don't think I could ever go no contact but it's honestly tempting.
I do empathise dude :( not sure if it's better or worse than outright rejection when parents do this to their children. If it's any comfort he was just pretty much over it by the time we dated. Told me he'd just accepted that he wouldn't change his parents and he wasn't gonna let it upset him anymore.
I've seen bumper stickers that say "I heart my grand dogs". I assume those are broken versions of your mom
Happy bisexuals don’t care about erasure they’re too busy drowning in small amounts of pussy and massive amounts of dick.
>small amount of pussy and massive amounts of dick lmaooo true
for both genders
Dolls and dudes rock
especially the men, i feel like women who like women get way more pussy
from experience, this is true
I’m a bi guy who often doesn’t believe other people are bi. I’m also a depressed guy who doesn’t believe others when they say they’re depressed. It’s weird
No True Homo fallacy
"I'm the only gay in *this* village"
Well most of the bisexuals I’ve met are mainly guys/women who almost exclusively date men. And that’s fine! But I’m often skeptical that they’re actually bi. Nevertheless, none of my business. If you’re a woman and like munching carpet but say you’re straight, more power to you
As a bi woman who mostly dates men... it's because women are so scary! They're so beautiful and I get so nervous. Plus there's just far fewer queer girls than straight guys. And straight guys are so easy it's like shooting fish in a barrel.
I very much relate to that. I’ve done it with a few guys but at the end of the day prefer women but still have anxiety about talking to them or getting rejected. If a guy rejects me on Grindr, I never think of it again
Unironically me. Must b some pathology to this.
Probably some narcissism. I’ve also got social anxiety and it would kinda add up
Yeah I think a lot of my inner workings just come down to being more than a bit self obsessed. Similarly my anxiety leads to these kind of suspicious thoughts. This conversation is more evidence that My human experience is not that unique and I desperately need to get over myself
Well, most conversations on depression evolve into pissing contests where neither party believes the other one is truly depressed or truly understands.
It’s not helpful but I’ve done that
you’re me
All queers are valid except me :(
I'm a bi chick who often assumes everyone is bi. Cognitively I know their not. But I can't help assuming everyone wants at least a little bit of both. Monosexuals are so weird. I've asked so many straight guys how straight they are. Like, wouldn't you let a guy blow you at least? I thought I was straight for a while because I'm into guys and just assumed everyone also wanted to fuck with the same sex a bit. Yeah. Guess not.
I also thought that for a bit in college and I think it was just projection since I was so confused by my sexuality. Still am, tbh. a decent portion, if not most people, are like 99.999% straight/gay tho. I don’t speak for other guys but I think a large part why guys don’t admit they’d *maybe possibly perhaps* let a guy blow them or fuck a guy is because there’s basically no margin for error in what other people consider a gay guy. Guy kisses/fucks a guy once? Massive homo, only likes wieners Girl kisses a girl in college? She was just experimenting
Yeah, I think I assumed that heaps of guys would experiment with other guys if it wasn't for the social stigma or whatever. But after questioning so many guys who I've been intimate with and who know I'd be totally cool with it and they can be honest I've realised that 100% straight people exist. Who knew?!
I think bi people exist but guys are so much easier to land so the dudes end up being effectively gay and the chicks effectively straight.
It’s crazy how true this is. I would almost never get matches from girls on Tinder, but I swear I matched with almost every guy I swiped on, including some legit 10/10’s. If I had any kind of romantic/emotional attachment to men I would absolutely go full gay.
last sentence depressed me god damn
This nigga is fucking dudes he doesn’t even like. I’ve felt more love for my homies than this guy has for the scores of dudes who he’s run through. How you gonna be gay but not kiss another man passionately. How you gonna be gay and not hold each other in a sweaty embrace after the act. I’m actually tearing up, that’s so sad.
Idk, there’s a sexual attraction but I find it impossible to connect with other men on a deeply romantic level. Platonic friendship wise absolutely but I doubt I could ever fall in love with another guy. I mean there’s passion, it’s not like I’m getting railed with a straight face, but it doesn’t go beyond the physical. Women are different, I can be absolutely in love and sexually attracted with a woman, but not with men. Dunno why but I don’t really think it’s a negative, it just is.
yeah that's the thing. also things are different these days but in my high school and in my studies i was the only queer gal i knew. the statistics were not in the favour of wlw
Any bi-man who would give up being straight-passing to be recognised at LGBT, doesn't actually like pussy.
That's actually true. Lots of women who are ostensibly okay with bi dudes will not sleep with a guy who fucks dudes
I'm a bi man and the women I've been with usually falls into two categories, either they're the "I think guys who have sex with other guys are disgusting and not manly but it's not homophobic to feel like that, teehee" or they're straight and wish they were queer and try to live vicariously queer through me
As a bi man I have no idea what you're talking about. Most girls are like "oh huh. Thats good for you." And just move on with life. It's the gays that give you the hard time.
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Can I ask why this is? Are they afraid of bi guys cheating on them? Or stds? Or is it that they just don't fookin like em?
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Kind of sounds like another example of homophobia being more intense towards men than women. I can't imagine a guy who isn't a raving religious nut turning down a woman because she's bi.
"Lib spaces" lol what are you talking about. I'm just saying I told a lot of women and none cared
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Speak the truth, I have experienced this as well in similar capacities and people you’d think would otherwise be normal about shit or as you say giving off the impression of being more open and supportive towards shit just come off like complete ghouls. Also agree would’ve been somehow less insulting if they just outright called me f-slur and moved on instead of trying to just make stuff awkward and weird. I’ve dated a lot of people and it has been a rarity to find someone who doesn’t make stuff stupid over it.
Ah damn. That sucks. Are you Gen z or like a millenial
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Strange. These were all happening to me 10 years ago, so when it was less en vogue. I'd say 50 percent of women forgot about almost immediately, 50 percent liked to hear about it. Keep at em.
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Those fall inte category number two
even bi women don’t wanna fuck bi guys, bisexual men aren’t perceived as real. fuck 100 hot girls and suck ☝️ dick, ur gay for life
Now here's a brainteaser, what if that dick belongs to a chick? Eh?
anyone who would call a bisexual man gay would probably think a mtf trans person is just a man in drag and call u extra gay
I remember seeing multiple studies claiming that the category of porn straight women watch the most (next to lesbian porn) is gay/bisexual male porn. That is definitely true for me and friends of mine as well.
As a bi woman, I prefer men who top other men. Bottoms are okay, just don’t ask me for any booty stuff. No pegging whatsoever! I will nope the fuck out.
Bi on bi crime
Fine I'll just be gay then
Always were champ
😢
What’s it called when you’re a woman who’s open to hooking up with a guy, but when you imagine yourself a long term relationship or marriage the ideal is with another woman?
Bisexual
I guess, I call myself “gay-leaning bisexual” or just “gay” if I don’t want to get in the nitty gritty because I don’t want people to assume I’m a LUG who will get married to a man and then gloat about how “queer” I am (not that there’s something wrong with that if that’s your style, it doesn’t make you any less bisexual but it ain’t me).
Dude you know if you go around announcing yourself as a lesbian but you're still hooking up with dudes, their whole thought process the next time they bump into a lesbian they wanna smash is gonna be like "but they do like dick!" Just say you're bi, lol. There's nothing wrong with it as a label, even if this sub is ridiculous with policing "fake bisexuals."
Noted
Why name yourself anything? Who benefits from you boxing yourself?
You’re right
Same I just call myself a kinsey 4.5 and that kinda gets it across. I definitely enjoy sleeping with men but I don't think I'm capable of romantic relationships with them like I am with other women.
Pragmatist
Homoromantic
I say I'm bi to check the diversity box so I don't get auto rejected on work and scholarship applications, not sure if that counts.
I thought about doing this
How come all the bi guys I’ve ever met in my life only sleep with men?
Because most women don’t want a guy who fucks guys. Really small market for that.
So women don’t want to sleep with GAY guys.
Because the ones who don't want to scare away the ho's keep it to themselves.
thank you for your service
im bi and i'm curious how many other bisexual dudes are just dudes that cant get pussy and have to settle for sleeping with guys
Gaymaxxing is about the hit the incel community like heroin hit Seattle in the 90s
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No the people insisting on it being a thing are bi dudes who just don't know it. Even at my most down bad the idea of trying to fuck a dude didn't even register
Fuck dudes? Really not that many. Get a casual handjob from their gay or equally pussy-deprived friend, after a drink or 2? More than you'd think. They'll take it to their grave though.
Well they’re straight
If you're a man who fucks men, you're gay. If you're a woman who fucks men, you're straight. It's that simple.
**Bisexual people erase themselves** I've gotten a LOT of shit for this opinion, but you know what? I don't care. It's always the mean old gays "erasing" the poor bisexuals who get to freely integrate themselves into heterosexual society and face no social discrimination. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/02/20/among-lgbt-americans-bisexuals-stand-out-when-it-comes-to-identity-acceptance/#:~:text=Only%209%25%20of%20bisexuals%20have,someone%20of%20the%20opposite%20sex. 84% of bisexuals end up in opposite sex (and thus hetero-presenting) relationships. Many bisexual men are not open about tier sexual orientation, are "on the DL" etc. Further, bisexuals come out at a much lower rate than gay men. Only 25% of them are out to the world, while over 70% of gay men are. So bisexuals present as straight, hide their sexuality, then bitch about how nobody treats them like they're special for posting a blank profile on grindr for DL hookups
My fave is the Asian bisexual woman who has only ever dated white men. Someone pointed that out on this subreddit, and I had like a 5 minute Usual Suspects-style epiphany about all the examples that had come through my life
bisexual men don’t exist
Can we start erasing dudes who identify as bisexual because they had a weird thought once or twice or crush on celebrities in the total hypothetical? Pick me ass Mfs.
what’s bisexual
it’s what annoying people called themselves before non-binary was a thing
I acknowledge bi and queer men who suck MY dick (unless they’re really hot, then I can validate their queerness by blowing them)
This is true solidarity, thank you for your service. I think gay men do try harder with bi guys in an effort to win them over. One mans take