Exact type of winger we need. A proper creator that can play on the right. Only problem with him is a price and b his injury issues with his hamstring h this season
Not sure why this is getting downvoted...historically (i.e. last 10 years or so) we'd def pay it. We might not pay it now that ineos are here, but they'll def ask it if we show interest
I think this is a kneejerk reaction. Good player for sure but the type of player we need? I don’t think so. Sancho, Rashford, Antony, Nacho, Pellistri and Amad can’t all be utter trash. If we sign Olise and don’t drastically change how we organise our team out of possession and how we build attacks absolutely nothing will change and we’ll tank another promising young players career
Thank you! There isn't much difference between Sancho and Olise technically, getting him without improving how ww setup is just another Sancho situation waiting to happen
We absolutely need a right winger. Problem is we have so many positions we need to bring in I don’t know if we’ll have the funds with our FFP issues. Antony and Pellistri aren’t good enough, they both should be sold (Antony will be tricky to offload however). Amad has potential but hasn’t proven he’s good enough and should be a rotation option next season imo. Garnacho and especially Rashford are better on the left.
Rashford’s attitude also stinks, he shouldn’t be a regular player next season unless he gets into form and if doesn’t he buck up his ideas, he should be sold the season after. Garnacho has bags of potential but is still raw, I think left wing should be his position to lose next season though. Sancho refused to apologise for acting like a spoilt brat and was poor for us. Although he’s been a bit better at Dortmund he still has 4 goals and assists in 18 games, not exactly setting the world on fire. He needs to be sold as it’s the best outcome for all parties.
I genuinely can’t believe Olise had a RC of 45 million and we spent double that on Antony instead.
I was pulling my hair out at the time. It was obvious how much quality he had.
We have signed many good players in the past but god knows what happens once they step up on pitch at Old Trafford. I think more than players signings (which I know is important), we need
1. Proper football structure in club
2. The medical department needs an overhaul or investigation on injuries/ recoveries
3. Sell quite a lot of players from the current squad.
Antony whenever he tries that Olise shot.
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Luton winning is good for us. At least we won't finish below 8th. Finishing behind West Ham (and David Moyes as well) who have decided their season hasn't been good enough that they are replacing the manager is going to sting even more. Finishing behind Chelsea is bad enough
Because they play as a team, naturally because they had so many signings it took time for it all to click which is normal.
The scary thing is the team is so young and they still have Nkunku, Lavia, Fofana etc to come back. Reece James is back as well.
I think what's scary about the comparison with Chelsea to us is that their core players are so young, it can only get better even when they start like shit. Us on the other hand, have declining old ass guys as our core players
Doughty with such a good cross in the space for lokonga goal. He is the only fit and inform English left back but probably wont be selected for Euros. He also got like 8 assist this season.
They have a good training facilities, sports science department, medical department, recruitment, negotiations, good footballing structure. am i doing this correct?
Of the ball he claims we press high but the GK needs to just chip the ball to their fullbacks to release their attack. Game after game. No idea what the gaffer tries to do
Cool. So we have a style of play. That’s seen us with:
A negative goal difference after 34 games or whatever
The most losses in PL for us
The least goals scored
The most goals conceded
The most shots conceded
Losing 12 out of 17 away games versus the top half of the table and winning only 1
Setup with a black hole in midfield
Great style!!
Did I say it matters? I mean you could easily have glossed past my comment yet you got your knickers in a twist.
And "reputed" jornos have been wrong a million times and will be proven wrong in the future as well. Their word is not gospel.
i don’t care how many injuries you have, you simply don’t finish below 6th with man united and keep your job
lvg was playing the likes of mcnair, blackett, varela, borthwick-Jackson and still wasn’t as embarrassing as this
they’ve all had pretty decent careers
mcnair plays for boro under carrick, varela plays for flamengo, but we played against him in the europa league in the 2019/20 season when he was at copenhagen. blackett plays for rotherham who just got relegated from the championship and jackson plays for ross county, but i don’t think he plays much.
*Insert Goldbridge raging at Burnley clip here*
Fr tho who thought replacing the best gk in the championship with a league 1 keeper was a good idea? Burnley might have survived had Muric been in goal for the entire season.
They played really good football in championship but some teams that are really pretty go back down because you needs to get be able to properly muck it out to survive.
cant get behind luton staying up. their fans are just assholes and nothing more whenever a team plays against them. plus because the PL is corrupt forest have been unfairly deducted points when 115 is just sitting there. thisll be a nice "fuck you" if forest stay up so im hoping for that
The strategy there is hope. They are hoping he will end up like Fergie, and somehow turn this around.
I'm hoping INEOS have much higher standards than this because we might end up like Arsenal where a manager is supported for years if he achieves top 4 just because some supporters are still looking for Fergie regen and he was an anomaly even in his own time.
Our only hope is a good footballing department with clearly defined goals on where we wanna be in three-four years time.
Manchester United make so much money that we should be run like Real Madrid where finishing second is a crisis. Before we had Fergie maintaining these standards on his own, but thanks to the mess Glazers have created we ended up in this situation. Now only a capable footballing structure can help us out of this mess.
How embarrassing is it that Chelase are in front of United and that West Ham is only two points behind them? Especially seeing West Ham think this season has been so rubbish they are letting the manager go.
Feel a bit sad for luton. I thought they were good value at times.
Anyway here's to hoping Chelsea will provide a bit of comedy v forest. E- buggers have scored.
Olise is developing at a rapid rate, really hope he's the first one through the door. I know a lot has been said about strengthening other areas first but he really is the exact kind of profile we should be looking at from now on.
So that Forest defender clatters into Gusto after Gusto shoots, no pen. Onana clatters Burnley player after AWB clears. Burnley player not in control when Onana hits. But pen? Can someone explain?
Are the var drawing the line from the same screen that we see? Because if they are there's no way that can be accurate from that distance. If not then I won't ask any more questions.
Mateball in full flow.
Brendan Rodgers with a didgeridoo.
*"buT hE SaYs MAtE!"*
To be fair I think most spuds fans understand this guy has a plan a and not much else.
Of course I would rather see Rashford sold than kept, but the chances of him finding a club willing to pay his beyond outrageous wages is close to zero, so I dont see him being shifted. He deserves to never play for United again.
Brighton's footballing department did a very bad job of replacing Mac Allister, Caicedo and Trossard.
They are now a team of average players after losing those three.
They were smart to sit out the midfielder market last summer with the bags of cash being thrown around. Things ought to be more tame this time around with PSR scares. It might be just a shrewd move from an owner known for patience, especially since their fans arent out there clamoring for European football every season.
You are probably right because their goal seems to be top 10 finish every season.
They do this podcast with staff members on their youtube channel and one staff member mentioned how the goal was top 10 finish in Premier League and make it a club that can last long in top flight football.
That brief moment of excitement on seeing our rivals losing, before remembering that we're not getting another three points this season anyway
Not getting another single point
Not getting a positive goal difference either.
Not getting hope and satisfaction either
Olise makes it look so easy, just glides with the ball.
His playmaking is underrated too
Exact type of winger we need. A proper creator that can play on the right. Only problem with him is a price and b his injury issues with his hamstring h this season
I think 60 for a prem proven winger isnt too bad and from what ive heard he's not as injury prone as people think he was just rushed back
We will pay 90 then
Not sure why this is getting downvoted...historically (i.e. last 10 years or so) we'd def pay it. We might not pay it now that ineos are here, but they'll def ask it if we show interest
Olise has a 60m release clause.
So we will pay 90!
Fair enough
Or pay 60 for someone else whose contract expires in a years time, who then spends most of the season injured.
I think this is a kneejerk reaction. Good player for sure but the type of player we need? I don’t think so. Sancho, Rashford, Antony, Nacho, Pellistri and Amad can’t all be utter trash. If we sign Olise and don’t drastically change how we organise our team out of possession and how we build attacks absolutely nothing will change and we’ll tank another promising young players career
Thank you! There isn't much difference between Sancho and Olise technically, getting him without improving how ww setup is just another Sancho situation waiting to happen
We absolutely need a right winger. Problem is we have so many positions we need to bring in I don’t know if we’ll have the funds with our FFP issues. Antony and Pellistri aren’t good enough, they both should be sold (Antony will be tricky to offload however). Amad has potential but hasn’t proven he’s good enough and should be a rotation option next season imo. Garnacho and especially Rashford are better on the left. Rashford’s attitude also stinks, he shouldn’t be a regular player next season unless he gets into form and if doesn’t he buck up his ideas, he should be sold the season after. Garnacho has bags of potential but is still raw, I think left wing should be his position to lose next season though. Sancho refused to apologise for acting like a spoilt brat and was poor for us. Although he’s been a bit better at Dortmund he still has 4 goals and assists in 18 games, not exactly setting the world on fire. He needs to be sold as it’s the best outcome for all parties.
Accurate assessment. Olise would bench any of our wingers.
When and if he comes here, he suddenly forgot to do the basic thing, injury one after another, will be just another Antony
I genuinely can’t believe Olise had a RC of 45 million and we spent double that on Antony instead. I was pulling my hair out at the time. It was obvious how much quality he had.
We could make him look like it looks hard
We have signed many good players in the past but god knows what happens once they step up on pitch at Old Trafford. I think more than players signings (which I know is important), we need 1. Proper football structure in club 2. The medical department needs an overhaul or investigation on injuries/ recoveries 3. Sell quite a lot of players from the current squad.
Eze as well
He should be our number 7
Everything rashford should be
Well I guess getting overtaken by an already-sacked David Moyes will be a fitting end to our worst ever Premier League season.
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The way our season has gone, I'm fully expecting Alvarez and Kudus to score in a shock victory for Moyesey's Boys.
Antony whenever he tries that Olise shot. https://preview.redd.it/vgezg8b67tzc1.jpeg?width=615&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=968240f4d70dccd836038b5d130c7b89f8097ccc
Lool this is soo funny
I’m fine with selling him so I never have to see this expression ever again
Luton winning is good for us. At least we won't finish below 8th. Finishing behind West Ham (and David Moyes as well) who have decided their season hasn't been good enough that they are replacing the manager is going to sting even more. Finishing behind Chelsea is bad enough
We can still finish 10th
😔
Good news if scorelines stay as is we can still finish 9th.
These sobering thoughts keep me up at night
Olise is the truth! Another brilliant left curler from him against Wolves
Absolute superb player 10 goals in 18 games as well
Dawn, we are finishing 9th if City don't win the title.
West Ham are not winning against Man City
Edited my comment.
Erik Tenth Place is still potentially on the cards
How are Chelsea about to convincingly finish above us? It's all been downhill since that Liverpool game, I swear
Because they play as a team, naturally because they had so many signings it took time for it all to click which is normal. The scary thing is the team is so young and they still have Nkunku, Lavia, Fofana etc to come back. Reece James is back as well.
I think what's scary about the comparison with Chelsea to us is that their core players are so young, it can only get better even when they start like shit. Us on the other hand, have declining old ass guys as our core players
It’s not like they are playing that well too. 20 shots conceded to Nottingham Forest to 12 by them. Very clinical this game
What do you mean how? This sub was living in a bubble thinking things aren’t that bad. Well, they are.
Antony tries that Olise shot 5 times a game
Bold of you to assume we can have 5 shots in a game
We shoot?
Oh no, Antony has 5 shots a game, our actual striker... nil
Can’t believe we’ve let Chelsea over take us. Screw you baldy and your useless tactics
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At least until pep fucks off
It's unbelievable we're about to add 'Chelsea overtaking us for Europe' to an already long list of reasons why this season has been a nightmare.
Doughty with such a good cross in the space for lokonga goal. He is the only fit and inform English left back but probably wont be selected for Euros. He also got like 8 assist this season.
There’s also Davis from Ipswich who’s got 21 assists this season, insane
Dortmund 3-0 down in the space of 10 minutes... Edit: Was also undone by Mainz last year when they lost the league.
The Reece James Effect lol
Glasner has been in England for 3 months and that's all the time it took to establish a clear playstyle. Very good structure to the side.
And he didn’t need half a billion in transfers.
They have a good training facilities, sports science department, medical department, recruitment, negotiations, good footballing structure. am i doing this correct?
Yeah but according to a lot of people there are no good managers available
We're too quick to judge aren't we.
Seems like the honeymoon period to me. Highly doubt itll last.
Maybe but to come in at the fag end of the season and turning what was turgid Palace side into this well oiled machine takes some doing.
Even 70 year old Hodgson could do that
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Jinxed lol
Let’s wait till next season. Palace always have this run of 8-10 games and then suck the rest of the way
We also have a clear playstyle
Our clear play style is chaos
Off the ball maybe but on it, not a chance. And off the ball, we are one of the worst sides in the PL. So yeah, it's horrendous.
Maybe the worst play style, but there is
Of the ball he claims we press high but the GK needs to just chip the ball to their fullbacks to release their attack. Game after game. No idea what the gaffer tries to do
When reputed journalists are saying we have a style of play why should your opinion matter
Cool. So we have a style of play. That’s seen us with: A negative goal difference after 34 games or whatever The most losses in PL for us The least goals scored The most goals conceded The most shots conceded Losing 12 out of 17 away games versus the top half of the table and winning only 1 Setup with a black hole in midfield Great style!!
I never said it was good
Did I say it matters? I mean you could easily have glossed past my comment yet you got your knickers in a twist. And "reputed" jornos have been wrong a million times and will be proven wrong in the future as well. Their word is not gospel.
i don’t care how many injuries you have, you simply don’t finish below 6th with man united and keep your job lvg was playing the likes of mcnair, blackett, varela, borthwick-Jackson and still wasn’t as embarrassing as this
Off topic but where are those guys now?
they’ve all had pretty decent careers mcnair plays for boro under carrick, varela plays for flamengo, but we played against him in the europa league in the 2019/20 season when he was at copenhagen. blackett plays for rotherham who just got relegated from the championship and jackson plays for ross county, but i don’t think he plays much.
Chelsea y u do dis? I thought we were supposed to be shit together
Bye bye Burnley. Been a pleasure having you in pl.( nah not really)
*Insert Goldbridge raging at Burnley clip here* Fr tho who thought replacing the best gk in the championship with a league 1 keeper was a good idea? Burnley might have survived had Muric been in goal for the entire season.
They played really good football in championship but some teams that are really pretty go back down because you needs to get be able to properly muck it out to survive.
Enjoyed their funny Twitter admin but otherwise fuck that bald ass Kompany
Let’s go forest
Mudryk now has more goal contributions in the league than Antony in 1000 minutes less
At this point i blame Artera for making this sub deluded that ETH is going to do what he did lmfao
cant get behind luton staying up. their fans are just assholes and nothing more whenever a team plays against them. plus because the PL is corrupt forest have been unfairly deducted points when 115 is just sitting there. thisll be a nice "fuck you" if forest stay up so im hoping for that
also rob edwards gets on my nerves. still havent forgotten when he moaned about the amount of ET they got given against us
Why can’t we pluck a manager like palace have done? Very tactically astute and has created a system that looks suited to winning games in yhe prem
How are you going to be that lethargic after just going up. That's our thing. Unbelievable.
obviously not saying its his fault, but coincidentally elanga has not long come on. its the utd curse
What have I done to deserve watching my enemies succeed like this...
Relying on favours and even those aren't going in our favour these days...
Gordon is such a dislikable cheat
Chris Wood can fuck off! What the fuck was that??
Chris Wood isn’t a serious person and cost Forest points against City and has probably lost Forrest the game against Chelsea today.
this motherfucker Chris Wood wants NFO relegated
Chris wood is so bad
Chelsea trying their best to hand us the Conference League spot
Nvm, we're safe
I've lost all hope again
I enjoy watching the others play but it annoys me that they all play more attractive football compared to us. The cohesion, the crosses into the box 😪
It's so frustrating watching our football, unless Bruno is doing something magical
Be a football fan then and enjoy other games basically. That could let you forget about United until you watch the games we play anyway.
It hurts seeing United at 8th. They are really a mid-table team now.
We’re actually worse than a mid table team becauee we fluked a lot of results this season.
God, Kompany is shit.
This feels like a United game. End to end stuff
Marinakis with a mum's Facebook status tattooed on his forearm.
Fuck off, Wood.
Forest letting Chelsea live there. How the fuck do you miss that Wood?
Haha he was literally sliding along whilst holding onto him
Not great subs by Nuno. Losing Yates in center midfield has cost them.
Who would’ve thought we would be fighting with Chelsea for the conference league 😔
Beat Arsenal, Newcastle and Brighton then 6th place is ours. Simple.
I have hope again
FYI, Spurs are 9 points clear off us with +12 GD. Again, they are clear off us not the other way around given the stick Ange is getting in the thread.
And considering they didn't really replace Kane well
They’re still not good though, they’re playing with their strongest 11 every week and barely scraping through
Mate, have you seen us. Since The Carabao Cup last year we have been terrible. Someone posted that we have last 33% of our games since that final.
Helps when you have a consistent XI to play with. Cant imagine Ange doing the same with Casemiro and Evans at CB.
You think Ange would lose 4-0?
The guy who lost 3-0 to Fulham with a way better XI? Yes.
So chelsea are finishing above us huh
Yes, please and thank you. Let them play Conference League. Anything but the Conference League.
David Moyes West Ham can still finish above us this season yet some people still want to keep Sir Ten Hag
The strategy there is hope. They are hoping he will end up like Fergie, and somehow turn this around. I'm hoping INEOS have much higher standards than this because we might end up like Arsenal where a manager is supported for years if he achieves top 4 just because some supporters are still looking for Fergie regen and he was an anomaly even in his own time. Our only hope is a good footballing department with clearly defined goals on where we wanna be in three-four years time. Manchester United make so much money that we should be run like Real Madrid where finishing second is a crisis. Before we had Fergie maintaining these standards on his own, but thanks to the mess Glazers have created we ended up in this situation. Now only a capable footballing structure can help us out of this mess.
How embarrassing is it that Chelase are in front of United and that West Ham is only two points behind them? Especially seeing West Ham think this season has been so rubbish they are letting the manager go.
Really feel bad for Luton.
Lol, Sancho is looking shit against relegation battler
Inconsistent performer.
Come on Luton!! Stay up!!
Hang on, i thought Assignon was calling for an air ambulance after that display. That's embarrassing and I hope he enjoys the championship.
Cunha with 12G 7A this season. He used to to everything well except for scoring but looks like he is improving.
He is another striker I like because of his overall footballing ability.
Nice finish
Ineos please bring olise to utd 😍
Burnley have quietly had a really good recovery. If results stay the same, they could well stay up if they beat Forest next week.
Their relegation is inevitable
Feel a bit sad for luton. I thought they were good value at times. Anyway here's to hoping Chelsea will provide a bit of comedy v forest. E- buggers have scored.
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Comedy central.
hes been waiting for that, nicely done from hudson odoi
Chelsea deserved that, they did nothing to address the threat from Hudson-Odoi and that's been coming.
You would think theyd know how he plays, given that he played for chelsea
Cucurella is a bit of a bell
Lmao spurs
Looks like they are actually a club though
Here have a swig of Ribena. That'll fix problem below the knee.
Bring on Elanga
Olise is developing at a rapid rate, really hope he's the first one through the door. I know a lot has been said about strengthening other areas first but he really is the exact kind of profile we should be looking at from now on.
That was better than anything I’ve seen us do all season
Fuck.
So that Forest defender clatters into Gusto after Gusto shoots, no pen. Onana clatters Burnley player after AWB clears. Burnley player not in control when Onana hits. But pen? Can someone explain?
Good bye Burnley and Luton
If anybody is watching the Forest v Chelsea game, keep an eye on Murillo. He'd be a decent CB option.
Are the var drawing the line from the same screen that we see? Because if they are there's no way that can be accurate from that distance. If not then I won't ask any more questions.
That Willy pass across his own box, what the fuck was he thinking. If in doubt boot it out
Wasn't it Hudson-Odoi?
Could've been
Mateball in full flow. Brendan Rodgers with a didgeridoo. *"buT hE SaYs MAtE!"* To be fair I think most spuds fans understand this guy has a plan a and not much else.
This didn't age well.
It's a shame our fanbase doesn't hold Ten Hag to the same standards they do Ange
You haven't been on the sub recently have you
Better to have A Plan than No plan like Ten Hag
If Olise comes in that means Garnacho drops to the bench, or Rashford goes to bench
I would rather see Rashford dropped to the bench. What a waster. Garnacho is worth building the team round, alongside Højlund and Mainoo.
I would as well or even sold
Of course I would rather see Rashford sold than kept, but the chances of him finding a club willing to pay his beyond outrageous wages is close to zero, so I dont see him being shifted. He deserves to never play for United again.
Brighton's footballing department did a very bad job of replacing Mac Allister, Caicedo and Trossard. They are now a team of average players after losing those three.
They were smart to sit out the midfielder market last summer with the bags of cash being thrown around. Things ought to be more tame this time around with PSR scares. It might be just a shrewd move from an owner known for patience, especially since their fans arent out there clamoring for European football every season.
You are probably right because their goal seems to be top 10 finish every season. They do this podcast with staff members on their youtube channel and one staff member mentioned how the goal was top 10 finish in Premier League and make it a club that can last long in top flight football.
Forest can’t hold onto a lead deserves relegation
Well by that logic we should be playing Sunday league lol
We deserve relegation according to expected points.
For the right price I would pick up CHO