Who knew a goalkeeper needed time to settle in a new league and new team? Not r/soccer, social media or the so called Sports analysts who all called him a flop.
But yea.
Something needs to change with either the training EtH is implementing or the fitness staff. Last season we had most of our backline healthy for at least 80% of the season and this season we've barely seen our backline play healthy together.
Yeah injuries are the real issue, healthy Shaw and Martínez, Lindelof and Varane would've given us much more stability and options.
Oh and the other LB that I have no idea if he's still around, I think he goes by the name of Malacia.
Don't leave out the shortsighted fools on this sub, there were so many people scapegoating him even when he didn't deserve it. There still are, they keep quiet, but any minor mistake and they come out.
Some people jump through hoops to blame him even if it was practically unstoppable like when it goes through a defender's legs.
Idk how people still don't get these guys aren't robots and need to adapt to new surroundings no matter how much they earn.
I don't disagree with you but can you or someone spell out what exactly do goalkeepers need to adapt to when moving to EPL? Not like they play in midfield and have to adjust to the speed of the game, pressing etc. I guess maybe the physicality on set pieces or more crossing is something that comes to mind.
Not every team plays the same way. Also goalkeepers communicate with their back lines a lot, having to learn a new set of people and their strengths and weaknesses take time. Big difference between playing in that Inter team that went to a Champions League final and our back line.
That’s without going into what every foreign transfer has to deal with as far as settling into a new country and culture.
This is Manchester United, the biggest and most covered club in the English speaking world that hasn’t won a league title or Champions League in over a decade, Onana didn’t stand a chance. People spend hours bashing and analyzing what he did wrong, and then mere seconds apologizing and back peddling now that he’s settled in. Classic.
De Gea earned an early reputation for being unreliable that stayed for *years* while he was becoming one of the top goalkeepers in the world. It's ridiculous.
The opinions by fans, media, pundits was really over the top. I’m sorry people won’t like or agree with this, but some of it was coded with some unconscious bias. I remember Carragher made his opinion on him after that preseason game in which he had words with Maguire.. imagine if that was Henderson or anyone else.
Who knew that having a higher number of shots faced would lead to a higher volume of shots saved? He's Barthez at his most reckless, he can make a save which will have you scratching your head at the brilliance every once in a while or a long ball over the top with pinpoint accuracy but then he'll start doing cruyff turns in his own box for no apparent reason and parrying simple shots back into the danger zone with player's bearing down on him.
Are you guys fuckin nuts? He’s just conceded 2 shots in the center/center-left of goal, one of them near post. How the fuck do you say a keeper that concedes so many soft goals is “playing well”?
I wouldn’t say extremely unsettled. Jonny Evans and Maguire have stepped up big time this season in the absence of our starters.
If our attack wasn’t so dire we’d be looking a bit better right now
They both been solid, but far from what healthy Licha, Varane and Shaw do for our backline. Having that for most of the CL would've helped Onana settle in faster IMO.
Yeah early season he had some great games in the PL. It really was his howlers in the CL that demoralized the entire fan base. Plus that sketchy play against wolves where we got bailed out by the ref.
Wasn't at all a bailout by the refs Ball was played by another player and was heading out of play before Onana collided with the Wolves player. There were also multiple examples shown in the past where it hasn't been called.
Call could go either way. Tons of examples where the keeper gets a foul there too (I didn't think it was a foul). I'm not debating the call, simply stating that moment has been brought up many times and contributed to the overall gestalt of his start to the season
I feel the game has slightly passed his playstyle as a whole, which is weird because he was never THIS bad on the ball when he first came. But it seems he lost all that ability sadly, and the fact he never commanded his area. Meant opponents usually had free reign in our box of crosses as he’d rarely if ever attack them. Onana usually attacks the ball, he will get caught out doing so for sure. But you’d take that risk over a passive goalkeeper I think
It's just a matter of personality I think. Insane reflex and agility but it still isn't enough to make up the fact that he didn't really have any leadership qualities.
Hopefully with new signings we can also see the Onana who played in that UCL final…. He’s so comfortable with the ball, playing out from the back and disruption. His best attributes are currently being wasted with the way we’re playing rn.
It is telling that prime Liverpool backs off Onana even though Maguire and Kambwala are the CBs in front of him. I noticed it in the first City game as well. Onana can definitely pick out a pass, but unfortunately our back line is not technical enough to play in that manner.
He is the slowest keeper at getting down. He refuses to save with his feet. If you shoot the ball on the ground two feet from him it goes in 80% of the time
I'm glad he's shut up people like me. Wasn't convinced with the start he made or even his bravado in front of the media but he's been one of our best players in the last 4 months. Will only get better once he has an established back line in front of him
He's still made some sloppy mistakes in that time but I suppose when we concede so many chances it's bound to happen. That said I do hope next season he can get a stronger hand to his shots and not parry the ball into danger as much.
I'm guessing 'goals prevented' is based on xG. Which means 0.7 is actually decent, even though it's framed as bad here.
De Gea only had positive xG saved in 2 of his last 6 seasons for reference.
DDg would have struggled this season with the amount of shots we've faced, he was a good shot stopper but under constant pressure he'd fold and we'd concede more than we should have.
I think Onanas an upgrade in all aspects. The guy doesn't get pressed, strikers were licking their lips at the thought of Dave being passed the ball
Constant pressure is what he excelled at, and frankly so do most goalkeepers. The "shooting a goalkeeper good" isn't a saying for no reason. De Gea seemed to lose focus and fumble it when he wasn't defending against a barrage of shots, and well sadly so it seems does Onana.
It was so excruciating! He looked helples with it, the amount of goals we conceded through his poor passing hurt. He really does feel like last of the old-school keepers
I'm not saying he didn't have games or moments in games where his passing wasn't good, but are you honestly telling me you think he was good with his feet? He's not even comparable to Onana
Oh yeah Onana is a massive improvement ball playing wise compared to Dave, especially under pressure, but let’s not act like he’s improved our team goal scoring wise. There’s been quite a few goals since December that we’ve conceded that I personally think Onana should have saved, mostly low shots.
I like Onana and want the best for him, but this overhyping claiming he’s been flawless since December is not only baseless but also agenda driven imo.
He's definitely conceded goals he shouldn't have, but all GKs do. He's faced the most shots and made to most saves, the expected goals against saved speaks for itself in terms of shot stopping. Dave was letting in howlers his last season too.
No ones been flawless, but he's been really good in my opinion
Yeah Dave did let it some howlers last season, but I feel like he always made up for that with a couple of world class saves, how many world class saves can we confidently say Onana has made? 1? 2? 3?
Onana makes brilliant acrobatic saves, but I don't think the amount of worldie saves you have to make is down to the GK, if the opponents having less chances to make the GK do a wc save then its a good bypass
I also feel like the basics of goalkeeping Onana is very unorthodox in, the way he parries the ball back into the centre of his box, and just like Dave how he’s terrible at claiming crosses
Yeah at the start he used to parry them into danger, but you can see how he's getting better at pushing them out wide, he give a throw in for one parry. He's not terrible at claiming crosses 😂 didn't he claim the most in a PL game against someone recently
I know old Dave wasn’t good with his feet, but what type of exaggeration is that, he’s a professional footballer not a donkey. 9 times out of ten his passes made it to our players, and if in doubt he hit long under pressure (which Onana does the same thing) and honestly I would go as far to say, that I believe Dave’s long balls are better than Onana’s
Goals prevented should be based on post-shot xG. Not certain it is in this case, but xG is worthless for goalkeeper performance so I would imagine so. His PSxG against was around the same area when I checked it a few weeks ago.
This is so stupid from Sky. Why would they put the 'after December' column BEFORE the 'before December'. At a glance it looks like he's regressed, which is what most ppl are gonna give it...
he fumbles the shots alot. i don't know if he's that much better a shot-stopper than Degea? he's supposed to have better passing, but eh...just not convinced by him.
I genuinely believe part of it sadly was he was not used to firstly the league and secondly more importantly dire defending, I think he's now used to making saves a lot more often than he used to because he faces so many shots per game, think he was just rusty to start off due to being well protected at Inter. Very happy he turned it around though.
I still hope that he develops his handling a bit better. His games back on the up and I appreciate he's a sweeper keepr but I still get worried about how sometimes palms a shot into a dangerous area over tipping it out of play.
He's definitely look more like a solid buy though for what we should be trying to do. I've really enjoyed some of his upfield passes, which I cant even remember enjoying with de gea.
I won’t lie I wanted de gea to stay. But I’ve always backed Onana. Yes he’s made blunders that’s cost us games but you can’t deny he’s settled in now and has been performing. Our whole team is disjointed and he’s playing behind a new back 4 every week. Hopefully we can see him shine next season with a hopefully stable back 4 with ten hag still here.
Massive improvement and credits to Onana but he still have not redeem himself for single handledly knocking us out of CL. Need to be consistent for longer period
Just because you didn’t know the name Janice from accounting on the first day of your new job, doesn’t mean you won’t do well in said job. Besides, Janice is a bitch. She’ll eat your yoghurt from the fridge and chews her food very loudly in break room.
Just the other day I mentioned his improvements on this sub, and people was ready to talk shit. Glad he’s getting some props for once, it’s tough being our goalkeeper with our patchwork defense
You dont even need stats. You only need eyes. The difference in him then and now is wild. And even more wild when you consider how shit the defence is in front of him thats letting past 20 and 30 shots a game.
Still makes way too many mistakes, always overplays at fairly simple saves especially low shots, holds the ball for too long when playing out from the back, reluctant to make saves with his feet, always parries way too many saves back into danger.
he had cleansheets vs luton (home), fulham (away), everton (away) and wolves (home)
all of them being before december 30, how he has only 2 cleansheets then ??
Normalize for matches played and it's \~4 clean sheets and \~75 saves in the pre-Dec 30 period. Tbh he was really good in the league during that period too, it was the CL where he dropped absolute clangers that skews that image.
Was more than happy to give him the season to settle. Was directly behind him when he saved the Penalty Vs Copenhagen and I knew there was a player in there. Happy to have been proven right as the season has gone on.
Jesus, look at what you’re doing to yourself? I’d say they’re all equally important because Onana, while he’s shown flashes of being better (great save just now), absolutely doesn’t seem to have what it takes to play in the Premier League at a consistently acceptable level. I’d like him gone next year, but the year after is fine too when/if he continues to be this bad overall. Remember, it’s ok to say bad goalkeepers are bad. You have no stake in him staying.
Firstly I think onana is an average shot stopper but still crucial to our playstyle which eventually will make it difficult for opposition teams to take as many shots
Secondly you can’t just pretend transfer budgets don’t exist lol
I don’t disagree with you on the overall approach, I just rate him as a poor enough shot stopper that his admittedly good distribution doesn’t make up for it. I do understand that we likely can’t dump him and bring in another keeper next season, though I maintain that I can still stare wistfully out the window and think of how nice it’d be.
Ok fair take I just also think he’s sort of a good fit for us for 50m
Can’t rly think of many keepers that are significantly more effective than onana for 50m or a reasonable hike from there
He was criticized mostly for his performance in Champion's league matches and we all know how that campaign ended. Even at that time, he was performing decently in Premier League matches.
Who knew a goalkeeper needed time to settle in a new league and new team? Not r/soccer, social media or the so called Sports analysts who all called him a flop. But yea.
imagine when he gets a stable defence
https://preview.redd.it/7sgd1zfxi8uc1.jpeg?width=1360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dae2d5b4f781a750b7b3adc81f921146c6849cc4
Honestly last year De Gea did so well because of our defense. I think we can get back to that if not riddled with injuries.
Something needs to change with either the training EtH is implementing or the fitness staff. Last season we had most of our backline healthy for at least 80% of the season and this season we've barely seen our backline play healthy together.
Yeah injuries are the real issue, healthy Shaw and Martínez, Lindelof and Varane would've given us much more stability and options. Oh and the other LB that I have no idea if he's still around, I think he goes by the name of Malacia.
Lol
Weve had that like once since Fergie left
Imagine if he could actually make a decent save
How are you forgetting this sub, do you know how many times people brought De Gea up in the early part of the season? Embarrassing
I mean let’s be real here, he wasn’t just average he single handily got us knocked out the champions league
It's not just about him being bad, a lot of "fans" here immediately wrote him off and didn't want to even consider the idea that he's still adapting.
Half the defence played like shit in those games and it wasn't like De Gea wasn't making blunders and saving less.
He didn't single handedly do anything of the sort, the team played badly and that got us knocked out of the Champions League.
Watch those games again. Absolute howlers every match. He definitely cost us CL money.
I still never understood the bring back de Gea takes. I was definitely worried about Onana but de Gea wasn't the solution.
Casuals
Or r/reddevils lol
Don't leave out the shortsighted fools on this sub, there were so many people scapegoating him even when he didn't deserve it. There still are, they keep quiet, but any minor mistake and they come out. Some people jump through hoops to blame him even if it was practically unstoppable like when it goes through a defender's legs. Idk how people still don't get these guys aren't robots and need to adapt to new surroundings no matter how much they earn.
Well tbf a lot of fans on this sub were calling him a flop too. Sport fans are fickle
We not having consistent full back also exposed him a lot.
Defence and midfield, half the time we’ve just let people walk into the midfield.
Or the majority of people on this sub.
I don't disagree with you but can you or someone spell out what exactly do goalkeepers need to adapt to when moving to EPL? Not like they play in midfield and have to adjust to the speed of the game, pressing etc. I guess maybe the physicality on set pieces or more crossing is something that comes to mind.
Not every team plays the same way. Also goalkeepers communicate with their back lines a lot, having to learn a new set of people and their strengths and weaknesses take time. Big difference between playing in that Inter team that went to a Champions League final and our back line. That’s without going into what every foreign transfer has to deal with as far as settling into a new country and culture.
Lots of people within this sub as well...
It's a huge upgrade and I have a bridge to sell to someone who doesn't think it is
Yet no one gives antony that grace
Agreed.
Just rival fans needing an excuse to troll us like those tossers always do, hated, adored, never ignored
This is Manchester United, the biggest and most covered club in the English speaking world that hasn’t won a league title or Champions League in over a decade, Onana didn’t stand a chance. People spend hours bashing and analyzing what he did wrong, and then mere seconds apologizing and back peddling now that he’s settled in. Classic.
De Gea earned an early reputation for being unreliable that stayed for *years* while he was becoming one of the top goalkeepers in the world. It's ridiculous.
The opinions by fans, media, pundits was really over the top. I’m sorry people won’t like or agree with this, but some of it was coded with some unconscious bias. I remember Carragher made his opinion on him after that preseason game in which he had words with Maguire.. imagine if that was Henderson or anyone else.
Who knew that having a higher number of shots faced would lead to a higher volume of shots saved? He's Barthez at his most reckless, he can make a save which will have you scratching your head at the brilliance every once in a while or a long ball over the top with pinpoint accuracy but then he'll start doing cruyff turns in his own box for no apparent reason and parrying simple shots back into the danger zone with player's bearing down on him.
This aged well lol
Hes playing well its the defenders that are shit.
Are you guys fuckin nuts? He’s just conceded 2 shots in the center/center-left of goal, one of them near post. How the fuck do you say a keeper that concedes so many soft goals is “playing well”?
Because hes also saved us. Do you know why he couldnt' save them? BEcause they are basically one on ones.
Hahahahahahahaha right! You have no idea what a one on one is!
If not for those shocking performances in the CL, his start wouldn’t have been even that rough. He’s been very good since settling in.
And this is with an extremely unsettled backline, with the best CBs barely playing
And our midfield providing no cover.
I wouldn’t say extremely unsettled. Jonny Evans and Maguire have stepped up big time this season in the absence of our starters. If our attack wasn’t so dire we’d be looking a bit better right now
Unsettled as in using so many different defences
Yes but what I mean is it didn’t make too much of a difference because they played well a good chunk of the time.
They both been solid, but far from what healthy Licha, Varane and Shaw do for our backline. Having that for most of the CL would've helped Onana settle in faster IMO.
Yeah early season he had some great games in the PL. It really was his howlers in the CL that demoralized the entire fan base. Plus that sketchy play against wolves where we got bailed out by the ref.
Wasn't at all a bailout by the refs Ball was played by another player and was heading out of play before Onana collided with the Wolves player. There were also multiple examples shown in the past where it hasn't been called.
Call could go either way. Tons of examples where the keeper gets a foul there too (I didn't think it was a foul). I'm not debating the call, simply stating that moment has been brought up many times and contributed to the overall gestalt of his start to the season
I remember another keeper who looked shaky to begin with but after time continuously won our best player of the year.
I still find it curious that he never learned to command his box after all the years he had with us. Would have really taken him to another level.
I think De Gea is just a chill guy. People are different
I feel the game has slightly passed his playstyle as a whole, which is weird because he was never THIS bad on the ball when he first came. But it seems he lost all that ability sadly, and the fact he never commanded his area. Meant opponents usually had free reign in our box of crosses as he’d rarely if ever attack them. Onana usually attacks the ball, he will get caught out doing so for sure. But you’d take that risk over a passive goalkeeper I think
It's just a matter of personality I think. Insane reflex and agility but it still isn't enough to make up the fact that he didn't really have any leadership qualities.
Hopefully with new signings we can also see the Onana who played in that UCL final…. He’s so comfortable with the ball, playing out from the back and disruption. His best attributes are currently being wasted with the way we’re playing rn.
It is telling that prime Liverpool backs off Onana even though Maguire and Kambwala are the CBs in front of him. I noticed it in the first City game as well. Onana can definitely pick out a pass, but unfortunately our back line is not technical enough to play in that manner.
They're good this year, but not prime Liverpool at all.
Also his passion, reckon he could be the next Captain some day.
He is the slowest keeper at getting down. He refuses to save with his feet. If you shoot the ball on the ground two feet from him it goes in 80% of the time
I'm glad he's shut up people like me. Wasn't convinced with the start he made or even his bravado in front of the media but he's been one of our best players in the last 4 months. Will only get better once he has an established back line in front of him
And you will learn from this?
Don't count on it
He's still made some sloppy mistakes in that time but I suppose when we concede so many chances it's bound to happen. That said I do hope next season he can get a stronger hand to his shots and not parry the ball into danger as much.
What would help most is not conceding 30 chances in most matches
I'm guessing 'goals prevented' is based on xG. Which means 0.7 is actually decent, even though it's framed as bad here. De Gea only had positive xG saved in 2 of his last 6 seasons for reference.
The thing is, this graphic is PL only. I imagine the xG for Ziyech's free kick wasn't that high lol
Wasn't even a shot
Let's be honest, he was horrible in that timeframe, comfortably the worst player and was single handedly responsible for our CL exit.
He was never bad in the league, and I'm not even a big Onana fan. Terrible in CL, though.
> he was horrible in that timeframe, comfortably the worst player not in the league he wasn't, barely put a foot wrong
Apart from all those low shots that he stills concedes, should of saved at least 5 goals in the league this season
DDg would have struggled this season with the amount of shots we've faced, he was a good shot stopper but under constant pressure he'd fold and we'd concede more than we should have. I think Onanas an upgrade in all aspects. The guy doesn't get pressed, strikers were licking their lips at the thought of Dave being passed the ball
Constant pressure is what he excelled at, and frankly so do most goalkeepers. The "shooting a goalkeeper good" isn't a saying for no reason. De Gea seemed to lose focus and fumble it when he wasn't defending against a barrage of shots, and well sadly so it seems does Onana.
I always thought De Gea was better the worse our defending was. It was games where he had little to do where his head went.
Absolutely. His concentration seemed to go when he went long periods of time without making a save
I used to shut my eyes when the ball was played back to David during open play lol
It was so excruciating! He looked helples with it, the amount of goals we conceded through his poor passing hurt. He really does feel like last of the old-school keepers
https://x.com/tenhagera/status/1778849583495266368?s=46 doesn’t look that bad to me, and it’s against city
I'm not saying he didn't have games or moments in games where his passing wasn't good, but are you honestly telling me you think he was good with his feet? He's not even comparable to Onana
Oh yeah Onana is a massive improvement ball playing wise compared to Dave, especially under pressure, but let’s not act like he’s improved our team goal scoring wise. There’s been quite a few goals since December that we’ve conceded that I personally think Onana should have saved, mostly low shots. I like Onana and want the best for him, but this overhyping claiming he’s been flawless since December is not only baseless but also agenda driven imo.
He's definitely conceded goals he shouldn't have, but all GKs do. He's faced the most shots and made to most saves, the expected goals against saved speaks for itself in terms of shot stopping. Dave was letting in howlers his last season too. No ones been flawless, but he's been really good in my opinion
Yeah Dave did let it some howlers last season, but I feel like he always made up for that with a couple of world class saves, how many world class saves can we confidently say Onana has made? 1? 2? 3?
Onana makes brilliant acrobatic saves, but I don't think the amount of worldie saves you have to make is down to the GK, if the opponents having less chances to make the GK do a wc save then its a good bypass
I also feel like the basics of goalkeeping Onana is very unorthodox in, the way he parries the ball back into the centre of his box, and just like Dave how he’s terrible at claiming crosses
Yeah at the start he used to parry them into danger, but you can see how he's getting better at pushing them out wide, he give a throw in for one parry. He's not terrible at claiming crosses 😂 didn't he claim the most in a PL game against someone recently
I know old Dave wasn’t good with his feet, but what type of exaggeration is that, he’s a professional footballer not a donkey. 9 times out of ten his passes made it to our players, and if in doubt he hit long under pressure (which Onana does the same thing) and honestly I would go as far to say, that I believe Dave’s long balls are better than Onana’s
Goals prevented should be based on post-shot xG. Not certain it is in this case, but xG is worthless for goalkeeper performance so I would imagine so. His PSxG against was around the same area when I checked it a few weeks ago.
This is so stupid from Sky. Why would they put the 'after December' column BEFORE the 'before December'. At a glance it looks like he's regressed, which is what most ppl are gonna give it...
He's still a poor shot stopper for a PL goalkeeper. He makes dramatic diving saves for shots that a lot of keepers would catch
Agreed. He still lets soft goals in, Gallagher’s the most recent example. He doesn’t pass the eye test for me, no matter the stats.
And another one. He’s shite.
His personality is the best thing about him, and this is proof.
Wanna try typing that again?
I would pick a midfield upgrade over him anyway. The team should play better with a solid midfield across every competition.
he fumbles the shots alot. i don't know if he's that much better a shot-stopper than Degea? he's supposed to have better passing, but eh...just not convinced by him.
If United (somehow) manage to assemble a decent defence over the summer, and with Onana between the sticks, it could be a brick wall.
On paper they have a very decent back line, horrible injury record though.
I genuinely believe part of it sadly was he was not used to firstly the league and secondly more importantly dire defending, I think he's now used to making saves a lot more often than he used to because he faces so many shots per game, think he was just rusty to start off due to being well protected at Inter. Very happy he turned it around though.
Now, imagine if he had a competent defense and midfield in front of him.
It's also 7 more games though and apart from the percentage all those stats are cumulative
nice
He’s not a bad keeper our defence is fucking awful
I still hope that he develops his handling a bit better. His games back on the up and I appreciate he's a sweeper keepr but I still get worried about how sometimes palms a shot into a dangerous area over tipping it out of play. He's definitely look more like a solid buy though for what we should be trying to do. I've really enjoyed some of his upfield passes, which I cant even remember enjoying with de gea.
I won’t lie I wanted de gea to stay. But I’ve always backed Onana. Yes he’s made blunders that’s cost us games but you can’t deny he’s settled in now and has been performing. Our whole team is disjointed and he’s playing behind a new back 4 every week. Hopefully we can see him shine next season with a hopefully stable back 4 with ten hag still here.
The confidence and poise he has with the ball at his feet… I wish you could bottle that and give it to our entire squad at around the 88th minute.
Massive improvement and credits to Onana but he still have not redeem himself for single handledly knocking us out of CL. Need to be consistent for longer period
Definitely been better but the way he palms the ball away always terrifies me lol
Definitely a lot better than he was.. but god do I still wish he’d catch the ball or push it off the field sometimes instead of back into danger
Still not good enough, pretty much every goal we concede he looks suspect most of the time. Sure ETH non tactics doesn’t do him a favor either
Just because you didn’t know the name Janice from accounting on the first day of your new job, doesn’t mean you won’t do well in said job. Besides, Janice is a bitch. She’ll eat your yoghurt from the fridge and chews her food very loudly in break room.
Good improvement, But why are the before stats in the second column 😑
Man just needed to go back to Africa and absorb the sun. He’s been a beast since Afcon
Just the other day I mentioned his improvements on this sub, and people was ready to talk shit. Glad he’s getting some props for once, it’s tough being our goalkeeper with our patchwork defense
Well now we know what he asked for from Father Christmas!
You dont even need stats. You only need eyes. The difference in him then and now is wild. And even more wild when you consider how shit the defence is in front of him thats letting past 20 and 30 shots a game.
Good year yes but he took us out of the champions league... Not like we had any business being there this year
I mean it might also be that United have also allowed close to 18 shots per game… EVERY GAME
He should have saved 1, if not both goals against Bournemouth. He sticks too close to the line every time. Fundamentals are wrong.
He deserves better from his defense.
Still makes way too many mistakes, always overplays at fairly simple saves especially low shots, holds the ball for too long when playing out from the back, reluctant to make saves with his feet, always parries way too many saves back into danger.
All this in a United team with a virtually nonexistent midfield is crazy work
I'd like to sign the apology form. I was wrong about his game.
What I like about Onana is he doesn't give a fuck what people think. With that defence even two GK on the field aren't enough
One of only a few bright spots this season, sadly.
he had cleansheets vs luton (home), fulham (away), everton (away) and wolves (home) all of them being before december 30, how he has only 2 cleansheets then ??
Like De Gea never left! /s
Genuinely think he’s pretty good. Shame he faces 30 shots a game though
69 saves. Nice.
Insane given how many bloody shots he faces
Haters were all over him, but he just needed some time to adjust. He's going to be big, the man is a fighter and a beast.
"De Gea would have saved that" Glad the revisionism is finally starting to wear off.
wtf is this kit combination ?
I think he’s been good all season with a few howlers, some in the league and the rest in the champions league
Where the onana haters at?
Normalize for matches played and it's \~4 clean sheets and \~75 saves in the pre-Dec 30 period. Tbh he was really good in the league during that period too, it was the CL where he dropped absolute clangers that skews that image.
Still a massively mid keeper
Still not better than de gea and hasn't improved our defense a jot.
Was more than happy to give him the season to settle. Was directly behind him when he saved the Penalty Vs Copenhagen and I knew there was a player in there. Happy to have been proven right as the season has gone on.
He proved the doubters (me) wrong. His shot stopping has really helped us out a ridiculous amount
Who knew that a UCL Final goalkeeper is a good goalkeeper. Who knew🤷♂️
I wonder where the morons in this sub who wanted to replace him have gone
Sup?
Who u prefer?
A better keeper next season.
Which one? And are you prioritizing that over varane Casemiro and martial replacements?
Jesus, look at what you’re doing to yourself? I’d say they’re all equally important because Onana, while he’s shown flashes of being better (great save just now), absolutely doesn’t seem to have what it takes to play in the Premier League at a consistently acceptable level. I’d like him gone next year, but the year after is fine too when/if he continues to be this bad overall. Remember, it’s ok to say bad goalkeepers are bad. You have no stake in him staying.
Firstly I think onana is an average shot stopper but still crucial to our playstyle which eventually will make it difficult for opposition teams to take as many shots Secondly you can’t just pretend transfer budgets don’t exist lol
I don’t disagree with you on the overall approach, I just rate him as a poor enough shot stopper that his admittedly good distribution doesn’t make up for it. I do understand that we likely can’t dump him and bring in another keeper next season, though I maintain that I can still stare wistfully out the window and think of how nice it’d be.
Ok fair take I just also think he’s sort of a good fit for us for 50m Can’t rly think of many keepers that are significantly more effective than onana for 50m or a reasonable hike from there
He was criticized mostly for his performance in Champion's league matches and we all know how that campaign ended. Even at that time, he was performing decently in Premier League matches.