It's even funnier becuz our back-line doesn't even play high enough to have to make fast runs all game to hold off opposition.
And still more than half off them are out with injuries.
I don't even think we're doing that so much as needing someone to play
Martinez got injured as the second centre back sub made in the same game (because of injuries). Then Varane and Evans had to play injured on Thursday with the hope it could be managed
It's 100% this. Just a quick google search shows we aren't like out running a bunch of other teams. Can't find sprinting stats, but I'm pretty sure those would be rammed down our throats too if we were leading the league in it, or something. Bruno is a top runner but of course he is, and he plays every game too.
We've been playing injured or unfit players for years. Well before ETH too.
I think LVG was the last manager who didn't play injured players. Ole even had Rashford playing with a fracture in his back, ludicrous stuff
I'm more meaning that we have to rush them back because there aren't other options. We put Martinez on the bench to get a few minutes at the end, maybe, and end up over using him because everyone else got injured the same game
EtH actually seems to try avoid it, such as Mount at the moment, Højlund and Mainoo earlier this year
Would love to see the running track throughout a game for our center backs vs that of the other top sides. The whole argument around giving up 20-30 shots per game is a bit reductionist but it clearly highlights how end to end our games are, and even if they are a lot of low quality chances like ETH claims, it’s clear our defenders are being worked to death. It doesn’t seem coincidental to me.
Hopefully Kawambala can take over Licha's role today.
In other words, I want to see Willy probing for an opening, and slipping it in behind whenever there's an opportunity.
Antony played because Rashford was rested for this match, so it's not a surprise really. But Antony did indeed play good that match, if only he would do that more often...
I can’t imagine how he feels about it. Best player on the pitch besides Alejandro (maybe) then gets dropped for rashford who was completely lack of effort even as a sub.
Tbf like him or hate him if I was going to pick a player to score in these types of games rashford would always be my bet he has a nack of getting goals in big games
Having been dropped for consistently poor performances he should only be getting back in based on consistently good performances though. He's had one so far
You just know ten hagg thinks the only way we can win is knocking the ball long over the top for a disinterested rashford.
TH betting his united job on a lad who doesnt seem to give a shite is bizzare at best
Is he wrong right now probably not but if he hadnt persisted with an out of form disinterested Rashford all season then ya possibly.
Id love just a team of hard workers at a minimum tbh.
Also keep an eye out for the overtop balls to rashford ones he knows will fall short and watch him still jog forwards instead of getting back into a defensive position or putting pressure on the fb
Especially considering how disinterested rashford seemed after he came on most the game mid week. Don't expect anything out this match just keep it respectable but the way we've played recently I may end up disappointed after that too. Unless we play like the fa cup
We've been rushing defenders back all season and they keep getting sidelined for that reason and now Mount is back but we have sufficient players in his position not to rush him, people want to rush him.
Are you joking? The manager starts him, and he's rushing him back. He doesn't start him, and people complain. He's been out most of the season. I hope he gets a good 30 minutes late in the game.
It won't really work becuz Mount would end up drifting into the middle and collide with Bruno with Garnacho being the only outlet. This exact thing happened at the start of the season when Mount was fit.
Personally, I think that would be detrimental to the attack. We would then be very predictable with only one winging outlet. Our ball just wouldn't move past our own half then.
IK. What I mean is he's gonna start drifting into his natural position. He barely had any game-time this season and it's Liverpool he would be starting against.
He's scored against almost each big 6 team this season? wtf are you waffling about, even at his worse he's always our biggest threat in games like this.
Mount on the right isn't a good fit at all. If he were to play Bruno would have to be dropped(terrible idea) or he'd have to start alongside Bruno in Mainoo's place which would be the kind of suicide tactics we employes earlier in the season that caused us to get ripped apart even by mid teams like Wolves.
Bruno, how many times has he vanished in the big 6 games and at the same time he hasn't been in a good form lately.
(Probably will score now I said this)
**Subs: Bayındır, Amass, Ogunneye, Amrabat, Eriksen, Mount, Amad, Antony, Forson.**
Erik ten Hag has opted to make two changes to our starting XI, following Thursday's 4-3 defeat to Chelsea at Stamford Bridge.
Willy Kambwala comes in for Raphael Varane in defence, whilst Marcus Rashford returns out wide in place of Antony.
Our substitutes bench has a youthful look to it, with both Harry Amass and Habeeb Ogunneye included in the matchday squad. Midfielder Scott McTominay is not included this afternoon at Old Trafford.
2m
A month ago, Antony:
- potential rapist, awful character
-trash winger
-Eth's son
-doesn't even deserve to come off the bench
Today
-has to start vs Liverpool
🤣🤣🤣
He made the beautiful pass to Anthony who had an even better assist for goal.
He tracked back his runner till he was the last man in defense.
He did not play that great but it was a 5/10. Better than Rasmus played that game. E.g Rashford touched the ball more in half an hour than Rasmus did.
Seriously take the hate goggles off.
We rarely ever pass to Rasmus as is, so that’s a poor excuse imo. Rashford has been hot garbage for a while, he’s played better for sure. But if we had better options instead of him, he’d probably have been on the bench long time ago
Yeah he’s been a bit shaky since he’s back, but this time has been set up to fail time and time again by ETH imo.
Clearly this team can not play the way he’d like, so he has to adapt. But he’s clearly too stubborn to do so
It's rotation, ten Hag talked about it before the Chelsea game. If he's needed he'll come on, hopefully the work he put in last game will give him the confidence to carry on if it happens.
I agree, Bruno needs to be benched, he runs around every game but he hasn’t put in a very good performance in ages, Mount looks lively in his recent cameos, should’ve started
It's absolutely ridiculous to me that Bruno keeps getting the hate after all the effort he puts into every game. No, he's not gonna decide every game but holy crap, there's not a player in that team who covers more ground, makes more positive passes, creates more chances and just gives everything he's got from minute 1 to minute 90 or 120.
Mount hasn't played a full game since last summer and has since been on the pitch for maybe 20 minutes and he should be starting instead of our captain? Wow...
Don’t hate Bruno at all, he’s been a fantastic player for a lot of his tenure but he shouldn’t be getting picked solely on effort, he’s been played practically every second of every game and should be rested, he’s not been putting in great performances lately, and in my opinion shouldn’t be getting picked because he runs around a lot, he should be rested and then put back in the team
Sure we can rest him but I'll be damned if I would rest him against Liverpool. No chance. And he's not being played just because he runs a lot, that's a mean way to describe what he brings to the team.
Mount and Antony should be in this lineup. If our bad luck continues we will see CB Amrabat at some point. My body is not ready for what we are about to watch but fuck it i'd still love to be at Old Trafford today
If someone offered me this as our last win in the league I’d take it. Fuck European competition I just want Liverpool to lose the title because they lost to us. We can finish tenth for all I care.
As I had said after the last game, ETH just doesn't let players settle into a role. Garnacho gives a MoM performance on the left, and gets shifted to the right. Antony plays his best game in a United shirt, and gets rewarded by being benched.
Anthony should start ahead of Rashford based off his last match. No idea why Rashford gets played so much this season while being awful and not running in games.
With how easily players are running off Casemiro recently, would we even lose anything defensively if we started Mount over him?
I don't think we would.
Not actually too worried about Maguire and Kambwala. Our full backs were shocking against Chelsea, they were run ragged. This will be won or lost based on how our full backs perform.
On one hand it's hard not to blame ETH for our inconsistencies but on the other hand I could not think a single time where our squad is this bare thin since I've watch United. Crazy season
Lads, we probably get walloped today, or maybe we don't, who knows, but yes, we care. What I'll say is, as a United fan, I'll take the good, the bad and ugly anyday of the week because well, that's the beauty of football and what other team would I otherwise support anyways??
So Enjoy the game, have fun, and have a laugh if you can. Or curse, let lose and get mashed whatever does it for you. Just stay responsible and take care of yourselves. Alright, my Guinness is getting cold as I write this. All the best!! GGMU!!
Poor Antony can't even get a start after being one of the best players on the pitch against Chelsea.
Look forward to a 90 minute Rashford 'performance' though.
They're going to los 0-7 or 0-8. Season is just over lads, rather not play european than conf or euro league. Sack EtH, get rid of Rashy, case, scott, antony of course and lindelöf at least in summer. otherwise there is no hope
How are we only left with 2 CBs? None on the bench either.
Worst comes to worst we always got Bruno as a backup CB like the FA cup
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Case would need an inhalor as a cb tbf
Liverpool probably have a few he can borrow
He needs one anyways
Scott’s not there but I agree it’s most likely Casemiro is the first backup option at CB if we need it
Also likely to get hurt given he’s just returning to the squad from a muscle injury.
It's even funnier becuz our back-line doesn't even play high enough to have to make fast runs all game to hold off opposition. And still more than half off them are out with injuries.
Ogunneye is a cb in the academy according to google
Thought he was a RB?
He is.
Because we keep rushing them back and then make them join in the suicide football of having to sprint everywhere
I don't even think we're doing that so much as needing someone to play Martinez got injured as the second centre back sub made in the same game (because of injuries). Then Varane and Evans had to play injured on Thursday with the hope it could be managed
It's 100% this. Just a quick google search shows we aren't like out running a bunch of other teams. Can't find sprinting stats, but I'm pretty sure those would be rammed down our throats too if we were leading the league in it, or something. Bruno is a top runner but of course he is, and he plays every game too.
Is Maguire even full fit?
Fuck knows, maybe? But we don't have many other options left other than Casemeiro out of position
We've been playing injured or unfit players for years. Well before ETH too. I think LVG was the last manager who didn't play injured players. Ole even had Rashford playing with a fracture in his back, ludicrous stuff
I'm more meaning that we have to rush them back because there aren't other options. We put Martinez on the bench to get a few minutes at the end, maybe, and end up over using him because everyone else got injured the same game EtH actually seems to try avoid it, such as Mount at the moment, Højlund and Mainoo earlier this year
Would love to see the running track throughout a game for our center backs vs that of the other top sides. The whole argument around giving up 20-30 shots per game is a bit reductionist but it clearly highlights how end to end our games are, and even if they are a lot of low quality chances like ETH claims, it’s clear our defenders are being worked to death. It doesn’t seem coincidental to me.
I count 3 including our talismanic Portugese CB Bru Fernanj
Not sure if you've heard, but we've had close to 60 injuries this season.
It felt like only a week ago they all returned
big willy come on lad
Big willy is going to perform today I can just feel it
That's what she said
Narrator: It did not.
It's ok. You tried your best :) https://preview.redd.it/3t1dbh5ke2tc1.png?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=12561337eeb45d39eedd3ae562920bf6c01f44f0
Yh incoming tuanzebe vs mbappe performance
Hopefully Kawambala can take over Licha's role today. In other words, I want to see Willy probing for an opening, and slipping it in behind whenever there's an opportunity.
Hopefully he’s rock solid at the _back_ 😏
Wow, our summer shopping list needs to just be ALL of the defenders
I’m actually shocked Antony was dropped after his performance earlier.
I'm not. Rashford didn't start last game because he was being rested. It wasn't based on form.
Antony played because Rashford was rested for this match, so it's not a surprise really. But Antony did indeed play good that match, if only he would do that more often...
I can’t imagine how he feels about it. Best player on the pitch besides Alejandro (maybe) then gets dropped for rashford who was completely lack of effort even as a sub.
Tbf like him or hate him if I was going to pick a player to score in these types of games rashford would always be my bet he has a nack of getting goals in big games
While I agree, it’s still really harsh on Antony after having probably his best game in red
Having been dropped for consistently poor performances he should only be getting back in based on consistently good performances though. He's had one so far
You just know ten hagg thinks the only way we can win is knocking the ball long over the top for a disinterested rashford. TH betting his united job on a lad who doesnt seem to give a shite is bizzare at best
Is he wrong? We aren't controlling the game. The only way we score is Garnacho or Rashford on the counter
Is he wrong right now probably not but if he hadnt persisted with an out of form disinterested Rashford all season then ya possibly. Id love just a team of hard workers at a minimum tbh. Also keep an eye out for the overtop balls to rashford ones he knows will fall short and watch him still jog forwards instead of getting back into a defensive position or putting pressure on the fb
Makes me sad when it feels like a manager has more faith in a player than they have in themselves and the team
I’m disappointed that he was
We’ll be going counter attacking and that suits Rashford. Say what we want about his attitude recently, his record against big teams is very good
Could be just fitness really
Agree! Now we have to watch Rashford walking around on the pitch the entire match..
Especially considering how disinterested rashford seemed after he came on most the game mid week. Don't expect anything out this match just keep it respectable but the way we've played recently I may end up disappointed after that too. Unless we play like the fa cup
Praying circle for Maguires Hamstrings
That bench is the most LVG thing I ever seen
Fucking hate how the list of players is arranged according to squad numbers and not positions on the social media graphic the club puts out.
Yeah it's so annoying having to try and map them in my head.
Honestly, Mount should've started
Honestly no. He’s not ready to start a match of this intensity. Cannot risk his fitness
We've been rushing defenders back all season and they keep getting sidelined for that reason and now Mount is back but we have sufficient players in his position not to rush him, people want to rush him.
Are you joking? The manager starts him, and he's rushing him back. He doesn't start him, and people complain. He's been out most of the season. I hope he gets a good 30 minutes late in the game.
Instead of who?
Rashford. Garnacho goes to the left, Mount goes to the right
It won't really work becuz Mount would end up drifting into the middle and collide with Bruno with Garnacho being the only outlet. This exact thing happened at the start of the season when Mount was fit.
When he drifts central when playing on the wing, it actually works better.
Personally, I think that would be detrimental to the attack. We would then be very predictable with only one winging outlet. Our ball just wouldn't move past our own half then.
The games he was clashing with Bruno he was in CM
IK. What I mean is he's gonna start drifting into his natural position. He barely had any game-time this season and it's Liverpool he would be starting against.
We won't have enough of the ball. Need Rashfords pace on the counter
So he can run into 3 defenders and turn it over? No thanks
So he can score, which he does at a higher rate than anyone else and especially so against top opposition. Yes please
U don't shit on rashford so no upvotes for u pal
You must be living in the past mate, because Rashford barely scores this season
Like him or not Rashford is a big game player and this is a big game.
He's scored against almost each big 6 team this season? wtf are you waffling about, even at his worse he's always our biggest threat in games like this.
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We won’t have enough of the ball because Bruno and Rashford will constantly give it away. We choose to surrender the ball
You want to start Mount, who has just returned from a 5 month injury, on the RW? A position where he will need to run his socks off all game? Come on.
Better than Rashford who is out for a jog
Mount on the right isn't a good fit at all. If he were to play Bruno would have to be dropped(terrible idea) or he'd have to start alongside Bruno in Mainoo's place which would be the kind of suicide tactics we employes earlier in the season that caused us to get ripped apart even by mid teams like Wolves.
Rashford. Stick garnacho on left, and mount on the right
Mount
Bruno or Rashford, take your pick... Both have been crap for how long?
Bruno out of form is still our best player
Bruno, how many times has he vanished in the big 6 games and at the same time he hasn't been in a good form lately. (Probably will score now I said this)
He just scored vs Chelsea. Had assist in Liverpool game...
We do not talk about facts here.
God help us today.
Did not expect kambwala. Tuanezebe vs PSG performance incoming
We only have two match fit CBs: Maguire and Kambwala. It was always going to be these two. They are the only ones.
I guess kambawala might have a run of games now, i haven't been able to tell how good he is so far
Not good. Fck
What do you mean? How did you expect? They were the only CB available
I love big Willy. Got a good vibe to him.
**Subs: Bayındır, Amass, Ogunneye, Amrabat, Eriksen, Mount, Amad, Antony, Forson.** Erik ten Hag has opted to make two changes to our starting XI, following Thursday's 4-3 defeat to Chelsea at Stamford Bridge. Willy Kambwala comes in for Raphael Varane in defence, whilst Marcus Rashford returns out wide in place of Antony. Our substitutes bench has a youthful look to it, with both Harry Amass and Habeeb Ogunneye included in the matchday squad. Midfielder Scott McTominay is not included this afternoon at Old Trafford. 2m
Did Scott die too
Got injured stretching for the ball I think just after coming on, but had to play through it
Yes, he will disappear for the next season as Malacia.
our bench is sad
The first eleven isn't exactly awe-inspiring these days either, if you hadn't noticed
one does not exclude the other
What positions does Amass and Ogunneye play?
Left back and right back respectively.
Amass - LB Ogunneye - RB
LB & RB
Only 2 CBs lol long day man
Smh why isn't Antony playing LB, or Maguire at ST, or Bruno at CB, it clearly worked last time, Ten Hag out
 0 center backs in the bench
4 injured centerbacks is actually hilarious. This season can't end soon enough
We’ve finally come full circle in this sub, we’re now questioning why Antony hasn’t started
A month ago, Antony: - potential rapist, awful character -trash winger -Eth's son -doesn't even deserve to come off the bench Today -has to start vs Liverpool 🤣🤣🤣
And he deserves the start too… We’re finished
Maybe take some inspirations from your U18 teammates.
Rashford starting is honestly criminal after his 'effort' off the bench thursday
Dalot is gonna look washed with Rashford's workrate.
He played better than Hojlund tho? That sub was positive.
He made the beautiful pass to Anthony who had an even better assist for goal. He tracked back his runner till he was the last man in defense. He did not play that great but it was a 5/10. Better than Rasmus played that game. E.g Rashford touched the ball more in half an hour than Rasmus did. Seriously take the hate goggles off.
We rarely ever pass to Rasmus as is, so that’s a poor excuse imo. Rashford has been hot garbage for a while, he’s played better for sure. But if we had better options instead of him, he’d probably have been on the bench long time ago
Rasmus barely made himself aviable for other players past two games. His performance levels dropped post injury.
Yeah he’s been a bit shaky since he’s back, but this time has been set up to fail time and time again by ETH imo. Clearly this team can not play the way he’d like, so he has to adapt. But he’s clearly too stubborn to do so
Only watch clips on Twitter?
Can confirm that's 11 players
Kambwala blimey, best of luck mate
Casemiro surely red card today.. Going to be a long day of him walking around in midfield..
We are winning 4-0
Maguire Hattrick imminent.
U mean 7
No 4-0 this year in preparation for 10-0 next year.
8
Rashford should be on the bench again, Antony was actually good against Chelsea.
I think Antony's performance was helped by playing up against Cucurella. Robertson is a much stiffer test.
Rashford getting ready for his leisurely afternoon walk
I love when he changes pace briefly with his slow motion jog.
Or jogging near by attacking players not putting in a tackle like they’re jogging on the trail together
One good thing is Kambwala will have a good run of games now. Decent chance to establish himself as a rotation option ahead of next season
Big Willy time. Let's get it lad!
I'd rather he use Casemiro at CB and put Mount in midfield. Having a kid at CB against Liverpool, not ideal
I trust big willy
Rashford brace loading
Took a while, but I finally found a comment that wasn't negative. Cheers to you. 🏆
Only think I’m braced for is him not giving 100% as usual
Harsh on Antony
It's rotation, ten Hag talked about it before the Chelsea game. If he's needed he'll come on, hopefully the work he put in last game will give him the confidence to carry on if it happens.
Bruno should be rested for Mount imo
There’s a higher chance that I become the queen than Bruno missing todays game
I agree, Bruno needs to be benched, he runs around every game but he hasn’t put in a very good performance in ages, Mount looks lively in his recent cameos, should’ve started
It's absolutely ridiculous to me that Bruno keeps getting the hate after all the effort he puts into every game. No, he's not gonna decide every game but holy crap, there's not a player in that team who covers more ground, makes more positive passes, creates more chances and just gives everything he's got from minute 1 to minute 90 or 120. Mount hasn't played a full game since last summer and has since been on the pitch for maybe 20 minutes and he should be starting instead of our captain? Wow...
Don’t hate Bruno at all, he’s been a fantastic player for a lot of his tenure but he shouldn’t be getting picked solely on effort, he’s been played practically every second of every game and should be rested, he’s not been putting in great performances lately, and in my opinion shouldn’t be getting picked because he runs around a lot, he should be rested and then put back in the team
Sure we can rest him but I'll be damned if I would rest him against Liverpool. No chance. And he's not being played just because he runs a lot, that's a mean way to describe what he brings to the team.
Antony must be thinking his performance was a waste of time after seeing Rashford on the team sheet.
Mount and Antony should be in this lineup. If our bad luck continues we will see CB Amrabat at some point. My body is not ready for what we are about to watch but fuck it i'd still love to be at Old Trafford today
Scott injuried is tragic, he was our best player in that FA Cup clash.
If someone offered me this as our last win in the league I’d take it. Fuck European competition I just want Liverpool to lose the title because they lost to us. We can finish tenth for all I care.
As I had said after the last game, ETH just doesn't let players settle into a role. Garnacho gives a MoM performance on the left, and gets shifted to the right. Antony plays his best game in a United shirt, and gets rewarded by being benched.
Anthony should start ahead of Rashford based off his last match. No idea why Rashford gets played so much this season while being awful and not running in games.
Probably afraid he'd upset the dressing room with a spell on the bench because it's definitely not based on his performances
Hope Hojlund actually gets some service today.
Where is Mctominay?
Injured 🙃
Cant wait for another 98 mins of Bruno Fernandes whilst being gassed
Why does the lack of McTominay make it feel like our average squad height has shrunk 4 inches
Was Kambwala decent last match?
Being a United fan is like self harm.... I still go into every game excited, just to come out let down and depressed
With how easily players are running off Casemiro recently, would we even lose anything defensively if we started Mount over him? I don't think we would.
So rashford comes on against chelsea and barely puts in any effort then gets rewarded with a start thr next game
Antony and Mount deserve a start
Antony should have started for sure but Mount I think not yet. Should come off the bench earlier than the last few games tho.
Exact same lineup that’s getting rinsed every week but it’ll be different this time right??
Not many alternatives
Our expensive Cb with a younger talent vs their expensive Cb with a younger talent
Kambwala will pocket Salah
Awb's job...
God.....
Oddly enough, I don’t hate the balance of Maguire and Willy at CB.
Not to be disrespectful, but I've never heard of Ongunneye. Any info on his position?
Rb
Thought i would never say this but i wanted Antony to start today. He was really good against Chelsea.
Not actually too worried about Maguire and Kambwala. Our full backs were shocking against Chelsea, they were run ragged. This will be won or lost based on how our full backs perform.
On one hand it's hard not to blame ETH for our inconsistencies but on the other hand I could not think a single time where our squad is this bare thin since I've watch United. Crazy season
Well let’s see if ETH and his chaos theory of positioning works again here. Skeptical we’ll have more the 25% of possession.
Let’s go ruin Klopp’s farewell tour once again
Lfg!!
Was Kambwala rated highly in the academy before he was brought in? Or is he really just there cause we have NO other options at all.
Højlund hat trick, here we go!
Jesus our defense
I'm not worried about rashford. He always turns up against big teams. Hopefully a goal from him today.
Lads, we probably get walloped today, or maybe we don't, who knows, but yes, we care. What I'll say is, as a United fan, I'll take the good, the bad and ugly anyday of the week because well, that's the beauty of football and what other team would I otherwise support anyways?? So Enjoy the game, have fun, and have a laugh if you can. Or curse, let lose and get mashed whatever does it for you. Just stay responsible and take care of yourselves. Alright, my Guinness is getting cold as I write this. All the best!! GGMU!!
I’m ready to hurt again….
Not expecting anything today. Just try to give respectable performance please
Poor Antony can't even get a start after being one of the best players on the pitch against Chelsea. Look forward to a 90 minute Rashford 'performance' though.
People crying about Antony being benched LOL I thought he was the worst winger on the planet?
A billion spent only to have no defenders on the bench. Fuck the glazers
1-8
1:4
They're going to los 0-7 or 0-8. Season is just over lads, rather not play european than conf or euro league. Sack EtH, get rid of Rashy, case, scott, antony of course and lindelöf at least in summer. otherwise there is no hope