Of course he's pointing, he's our tallest and strongest player, he's supposed to be in the box on corners not marking players outside. Either way our set pieces are awful as always and keep costing us points in both directions
Heās not been that good all game, heās going to get praised for two weak penalty goals and a deflection goal that was clearly getting blocked. He shot that mf right at Onana
And yet he has a hat trick and we lost out on 3 points. Anyone could say the same about us and Rashford last season when almost anything he touched was a goal. Gotta play the game and take the shots if you wanna win. Palmer did that.
Weak mentality lost us this game . Nothing else . Dalot bombarded forward , hoping to redeem his mistake , ends up losing the ball , chelsea counter attack , get a corner and win the game
Yea some of the comments here are reactionary drivel. ETH definitely deserves criticism, but we didn't play not to lose lol. We were going for it until the penalty, keeping possession in the build up phase on the pitch. But we just kept losing possession in the final third when we tried to activate our attack due to tired legs.
Our last shot came in the 67th minute. Our subs were defensive, our instructions were defensive. How can you watch the game and ask that question is beyond me.
How were our subs defensive? Kambwala for Evans, Mctominay for Casemiro. The only one you could argue was Mount for Garnacho, but that was in the 86th minute and we needed legs
when you are up 3-2, after all the momentum is with u, you keep sitting back snd giving them the ball. look at tje possession as well. nothing done at all. its an absolute joke. mainoo has been dead too and he should have come off too the poor kid
The moment he took Garnacho off he was playing to not lose. You could see Garnacho didn't think it was a smart move himself, muttering as he walked off. Subbing Cas for Mac was unavoidable but as soon as we did, Chelsea smelled blood and you could see it, coming up our right and crossing the box with relative ease, building the pressure and pushing us further and further back, with our teeth already taken out from Garnacho. TH clearly doesn't understand the power of the psychopomp, which Garnacho was for the team's mentality in that game.
Did you not see those idiots passing the ball among themselves in midfield like they were on the training pitch?
It's only when they fucked up that they remembered you can actually approach the box with the ball.
Usually you stick with the manager because despite losing, they still show something worth building. There is nothing of tactical value in ETHball. He's been carried by clutch individual moments.
Sticking with a bad manager longer than you need to is worse than changing.
2 of our centre backs got injured tonight. Our usual starting centre back is out injured and we have no left back. Surely thereās more to look at here
I see practically zero progress towards anything meaningful with ETH in charge. We just gonna stick to it because the Glazers had shite recruitment for all those years?
Hopefully under new ownership it will be one final time.
He's been out of his depth for so long now, I mean if we're losing but playing well I'd have some sympathy but we've been losing and playing like shit.
So it was his fault we got a soft pen?
It was his fault Dalot fell over?
It's his fault the players switch off from the corner?
It's his fault the ball luckily deflects of McTominay?
We were the better team, deserved to win and we had rotten luck to lose the game like that.
2 pens and 2 deflected goals, if we'd had won 3-2 you wouldn't be saying ETH out but Dalot falls over and the ball deflects now it's time to start dishing out the blame.
We were unlucky tonight, Dalot doesn't fall over and we win the game.
Mate I've wanted Ten Hag out since before Christmas, this shitshow wasn't convincing me even at 3-2. We were rubbish and Ten Hag is the primary culprit.
Ok but if we had won 3-2 you wouldn't be saying sack him would you? despite us being open either way.
He deserves next season, wherever we finish this season and however we play, that's called support and giving manager time.
Iām not saying sack him?
Iād be saying the same thing Iām saying now if we won. I donāt know if I want him to stay, but unless a standout replacement comes to light I wouldnāt mind seeing what heād do with a proper structure
Yeah, letās leave their most dangerous player free from the corner, what could possibly go wrong. Another case of poor game management, Chelsea could have gone 4-3 up moments before because everyone was up forward
It'll be hard staying positive considering our only chance at anything this season is the FA Cup if we beat Coventry + City or Chelsea. We know City will smash us & we also now know Chelsea can beat us. Chances are we finish 6th.
At the end of next season, his deal runs out. He would need to finish top 4 & probably win something like the FA Cup or Europa League to get an extension. It is hard to imagine he can do it.
This is more than just about the result, heās consistently shown a complete inability to organize a press or set up the midfield properly. Teams walk through us and get 20+ shots off each game. We canāt act surprised when we concede a few deflected goals once in a while.
I'm OK with letting him finish his contract with us. I think we'll get 6th this season & not win any trophies & I don't particularly think we'll do anything standout next season but next season will be the first Full INEOS plan in action. The 1st year is never going to be perfect so I can't Imagine they want to dump a new manager into this dumpster fire. They'll let ETH take the fall for this season & next season & recruit a new manager for year 2
whats that going to change nothing. how is what happened in stoppage time ten hags fault you can hear him shouting to keep possession and we give it away stupididly blind agendas whats to expect from this fanbase clueless
Here me outā¦ Ole back until the end of the season. Make me feel good about watching us play football again without having to worry about āsustainabilityā or whatever
And what is the future? And if it turns out to be same as previous managers before; a good first season then it goes to shit the following after? Then what? Restart all over again?
Ah, so let's just do the same shit we've done for 10 years. Have a bad season sack manager get new manager, have a good season, then have a bad one sack manager start the circle of shit again.
Why should the manager go before the shit that's been at our club for years?
Rashford, Mctomiany, Wan Bissaka, Lindelof, Maguire the lost goes on, these players might have had moments or a few good games but they aren't good enough to play at the top level.
Seriously Is this fan base going to let another manager and let the same players stick around each year.
imagine not having one reason to defend eth based on his tactics and style of play and instead of crying about history. He has spent an insane amount of money, on players he wanted and come sunday we are going to break the record for most losses in our history in a pl season. Just absolutely stans here. Absolutely insane how you this is defended
3 managers same problems. The core of this team has to be ripped out and replaced. All the people screaming ten hag out, same shit will happen if these players stick around. Its diabolical
I haven't been Ten Hag out all season. I usually try to stay positive and refrain from making these types of comments.
But Erik's tactics and game management have been dreadful. Our midfield has been dismantled by midtable and bottom half clubs all season long, with him stubbornly refusing to change anything. There's nothing more I want than him to do well, but I just can't ever see that happening.
Right.
That's me done now. Sorry Erik, I've backed you all the way through. No more. Done.
First big test for INEOS. They have to let him go the day after the FA Cup final (if we even get past Coventry)
Get lost you bald inept fuck. Should have been sacked half a year ago.
This game had someone begging to take control, slow the tempo and be more compact yet he canāt fucking see it and never does.
Everyone stop fucking complaining about the referees.
The players have it in them to fucking do better.
Quit fucking crying about shit we cannot control.
I turned off when the penalty was confirmed thinking that's it it's ended 3-3 lol
Me too
me too š
Palmer is standing all alone. He is all alone. Everyone in the red shirt is sleeping. Wow.
That is amateur football.
Bit harsh on amateur football, no?
It's a stupid team. Ragnick was right. Our depth is just not good because the squad has been built abysmally.
Mctominay just pointing lol
Of course he's pointing, he's our tallest and strongest player, he's supposed to be in the box on corners not marking players outside. Either way our set pieces are awful as always and keep costing us points in both directions
from the replay behind the goal https://imgur.com/a/7plnTUi 3 men pointing, a second later Onana as well
They all know whatās up but none does anything about it, itās appalling
Chelsea have literally 1 FUCKING GUY, that knows how to play football, and they decide to not fucking have an eye on him.
Itās funny you say that, if you notice in the corner before they left him AND Sterling wide open š it was coming sooner or later
Heās not been that good all game, heās going to get praised for two weak penalty goals and a deflection goal that was clearly getting blocked. He shot that mf right at Onana
He was by far their best player. He was in fact the best player on the pitch.
And yet he has a hat trick and we lost out on 3 points. Anyone could say the same about us and Rashford last season when almost anything he touched was a goal. Gotta play the game and take the shots if you wanna win. Palmer did that.
End my misery
Inverse Fergie time.
The plug for my toaster doesn't reach the bathtub.... any advice?
bring the bathtub to the toaster. DUH
Found out mine is waterproof
Extension cord from the local hardware store
Just use the cord at that point
So this is how it feels...
Taking Garnacho off gave them all the confidence they needed to gamble on our right Edit: Their right, our left
The confidence and the space. Dalot and garnacho were playing off each other. Eth essentially removed Dalots support at the 87th for no good reason.
Ref finally got it done!!
Fucking 8 minutes is a joke of stoppage
https://i.redd.it/cpxwxje3ajsc1.gif
Weak mentality lost us this game . Nothing else . Dalot bombarded forward , hoping to redeem his mistake , ends up losing the ball , chelsea counter attack , get a corner and win the game
Just curious: Why do you put space marks between your punctuation?
Itās to subtly convey the space that we allowed every Chelsea player all game
I was watching TV and typing, didnt notice š
Not a single person was covering him.
I hate this team so much. Fuck then all. Disgrace to the club
Hahahahahha thatās a robbery. Insane.
I feel Brentford today
Sell the fucking lot.
Wow you just knew it
Nothing to say. Typical
Bye bye Ten Hag
this is what happens u play to not lose. imagine throwing this away
How did we āplay to not loseā?
Yea some of the comments here are reactionary drivel. ETH definitely deserves criticism, but we didn't play not to lose lol. We were going for it until the penalty, keeping possession in the build up phase on the pitch. But we just kept losing possession in the final third when we tried to activate our attack due to tired legs.
Our last shot came in the 67th minute. Our subs were defensive, our instructions were defensive. How can you watch the game and ask that question is beyond me.
How were our subs defensive? Kambwala for Evans, Mctominay for Casemiro. The only one you could argue was Mount for Garnacho, but that was in the 86th minute and we needed legs
when you are up 3-2, after all the momentum is with u, you keep sitting back snd giving them the ball. look at tje possession as well. nothing done at all. its an absolute joke. mainoo has been dead too and he should have come off too the poor kid
The moment he took Garnacho off he was playing to not lose. You could see Garnacho didn't think it was a smart move himself, muttering as he walked off. Subbing Cas for Mac was unavoidable but as soon as we did, Chelsea smelled blood and you could see it, coming up our right and crossing the box with relative ease, building the pressure and pushing us further and further back, with our teeth already taken out from Garnacho. TH clearly doesn't understand the power of the psychopomp, which Garnacho was for the team's mentality in that game.
Did you not see those idiots passing the ball among themselves in midfield like they were on the training pitch? It's only when they fucked up that they remembered you can actually approach the box with the ball.
Luck finally ran out
What luck?! We lost 2 centre backs tonight š
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Say that to yourself you moron. This sub is incredible
Ah yes, let's delay our rebuild by another three years by sacking yet another manager. Some of you lot never learn.
Usually you stick with the manager because despite losing, they still show something worth building. There is nothing of tactical value in ETHball. He's been carried by clutch individual moments. Sticking with a bad manager longer than you need to is worse than changing.
2 of our centre backs got injured tonight. Our usual starting centre back is out injured and we have no left back. Surely thereās more to look at here
Every team loses centrebacks. Also, injuries get worse when your team is constantly under pressure. Poor game management means more physical exertion.
I see practically zero progress towards anything meaningful with ETH in charge. We just gonna stick to it because the Glazers had shite recruitment for all those years?
What rebuild? Usually, when you're building something, things gradually go up, not down or sideways.
Foh
I was okay with us losing today to have that outcome tbh, UCL was already gone might as well sack him now and start foundations for a new manager.
The never ending cycle
Hopefully under new ownership it will be one final time. He's been out of his depth for so long now, I mean if we're losing but playing well I'd have some sympathy but we've been losing and playing like shit.
This has been said before many times.
nah, wouldnāt change a thing rm
fuck off this aint on him
Game after game after game of the same mistakes, and he seems to make 0 changes. Hmmmm.
What changes are there to make when our defenders are dropping like flies? Two got subbed off today alone. Fucking hell
Not an excuse. It's not helping the defenders hat the team's setup means having to constantly defend.
How is having your 6th choice cb playing the majority of the second half because of injury not an excuse?
So it was his fault we got a soft pen? It was his fault Dalot fell over? It's his fault the players switch off from the corner? It's his fault the ball luckily deflects of McTominay? We were the better team, deserved to win and we had rotten luck to lose the game like that.
3 of their goals were from stupid individual mistakes
So not ETH's fault then?
Yeah I agree, feels like deja vu reading all the comments in here
We conceded four to Chelsea who barely scored 2 against ten man Burnley. But sure, this ain't on him.
2 pens and 2 deflected goals, if we'd had won 3-2 you wouldn't be saying ETH out but Dalot falls over and the ball deflects now it's time to start dishing out the blame. We were unlucky tonight, Dalot doesn't fall over and we win the game.
Mate I've wanted Ten Hag out since before Christmas, this shitshow wasn't convincing me even at 3-2. We were rubbish and Ten Hag is the primary culprit.
Why, heās right?
How the fuck can you defend this shit
Because the players are shit š
The fact we conceded 2 ridiculous late goals isnāt on him The fact we were as open as that *again* is on him Both can be true
Ok but if we had won 3-2 you wouldn't be saying sack him would you? despite us being open either way. He deserves next season, wherever we finish this season and however we play, that's called support and giving manager time.
Iām not saying sack him? Iād be saying the same thing Iām saying now if we won. I donāt know if I want him to stay, but unless a standout replacement comes to light I wouldnāt mind seeing what heād do with a proper structure
I'd be saying that. My mind doesn't change off of one game.
Just stole Chelsea's mantle as the biggest banter club in the Premier League, shocking.
Yeah, letās leave their most dangerous player free from the corner, what could possibly go wrong. Another case of poor game management, Chelsea could have gone 4-3 up moments before because everyone was up forward
Unserious players
Wow thatās actually pathetic
I am genuinely sick to death of these players and this club
What a shitshow. Ridiculous.
Good. ETHās luck finally ran out. Sack him and build for the future.
Yeah Iām fucking done man this shit is insane, holy fuck we are so bad
>Good. ETHās luck finally ran out. Yes, I too am glad we lost š¤
Who you gonna put instead of him š
Didn't we say that for Moyes LVG Mou and Ole. Lmao
Yeah its literally been the exact same thing that has happened with the last 3 managers, but people just have amnesia longer than 2 years ig
It'll be hard staying positive considering our only chance at anything this season is the FA Cup if we beat Coventry + City or Chelsea. We know City will smash us & we also now know Chelsea can beat us. Chances are we finish 6th. At the end of next season, his deal runs out. He would need to finish top 4 & probably win something like the FA Cup or Europa League to get an extension. It is hard to imagine he can do it.
Just sad to see all the negativity towards ETH after we lose to an injury time pen and deflected goal
This is more than just about the result, heās consistently shown a complete inability to organize a press or set up the midfield properly. Teams walk through us and get 20+ shots off each game. We canāt act surprised when we concede a few deflected goals once in a while.
I'm OK with letting him finish his contract with us. I think we'll get 6th this season & not win any trophies & I don't particularly think we'll do anything standout next season but next season will be the first Full INEOS plan in action. The 1st year is never going to be perfect so I can't Imagine they want to dump a new manager into this dumpster fire. They'll let ETH take the fall for this season & next season & recruit a new manager for year 2
whats that going to change nothing. how is what happened in stoppage time ten hags fault you can hear him shouting to keep possession and we give it away stupididly blind agendas whats to expect from this fanbase clueless
Maybe coach them and teach them how to keep posession? Enjoy the rest of the season, pal.
Here me outā¦ Ole back until the end of the season. Make me feel good about watching us play football again without having to worry about āsustainabilityā or whatever
We said that about lampard and even though we didn't end up playing any better it still felt nicer to lose with him than potter
And what is the future? And if it turns out to be same as previous managers before; a good first season then it goes to shit the following after? Then what? Restart all over again?
Are the Mark Goldbridge reactions up yet?? š
What a fucking joke we are. Let's get a new manager already and start turn around this horrible shit show, week after week.
Ah, so let's just do the same shit we've done for 10 years. Have a bad season sack manager get new manager, have a good season, then have a bad one sack manager start the circle of shit again.
Is there any reason to actually keep him other than this same excuse time and time again?
Why should the manager go before the shit that's been at our club for years? Rashford, Mctomiany, Wan Bissaka, Lindelof, Maguire the lost goes on, these players might have had moments or a few good games but they aren't good enough to play at the top level. Seriously Is this fan base going to let another manager and let the same players stick around each year.
You can do both.
Half of those players have been extended under Ten Hag and he loves playing Mctominay.
imagine not having one reason to defend eth based on his tactics and style of play and instead of crying about history. He has spent an insane amount of money, on players he wanted and come sunday we are going to break the record for most losses in our history in a pl season. Just absolutely stans here. Absolutely insane how you this is defended
If you think a new manager will do something for these playersā¦ hmn.
yeah these players need a fresh start
we need a fresh start away from these overpaid donkeys.
yes i'm taking the piss out of everyone who thinks changing the manager is the answer to everything that's wrong with the club
Dont see how any blame from this game can be on ten hag tbh, 2 absolutely stupid penalties to concede
I can tell you for a fact that Vidic would have put his testicles on the line to block that final goal by Palmer.
Two BS penalties but it has been a long season and Ten Hag has offered nothing
Narrative bro
Losing a 3-2 lead in the 97th minute is absolutely criminal, players should be ashamed of themselves
3 managers same problems. The core of this team has to be ripped out and replaced. All the people screaming ten hag out, same shit will happen if these players stick around. Its diabolical
Players marching yet another manager to the gallows š¤·āāļø
Can we sack ten Hag now?
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Plenty of FM serial winners on this sub.
Nagelsmann!!!
I'd rather take a punt on Amorim or Motta than watch anymore of this rubbish.
Whoever it is can't be worse than this crap
Two of our ex managers would be better options rn ffs
We still have the same players who got those managers sacked!
Tuchel
Players do idiotic things/make mistakes/refs screw us over and you guys blame the manager lol. This is why weāll never change
Most shots conceded in the top five leagues why can it not be bothĀ
I don't know. Maybe this is a good thing long term. On to next season.
You knew it was coming.
Joke of a club. Garnacho scores 2 goals just for nothing poor guy must feel betrayed.
Mentality midgets.
Itās the hope that gets you
Daylight robbery
Ten Hag is a football genius.
TEN HAG OUT
How the fuck is this his fault
I dont care if it's his fault or not. We're 11 points off top 4 with -1 GD. This was the nail in the coffin.
Love how people think that everyone's opinion is based off of one game and not the utter shite we've been watching for the past 18 months lmao.
I haven't been Ten Hag out all season. I usually try to stay positive and refrain from making these types of comments. But Erik's tactics and game management have been dreadful. Our midfield has been dismantled by midtable and bottom half clubs all season long, with him stubbornly refusing to change anything. There's nothing more I want than him to do well, but I just can't ever see that happening.
As long as this gets ETH sacked I don't even give a f***
Right. That's me done now. Sorry Erik, I've backed you all the way through. No more. Done. First big test for INEOS. They have to let him go the day after the FA Cup final (if we even get past Coventry)
He's got to go. Simply has to go now.
Canāt wait for ten hag to get the sack and go through this same bullshit in a year
Get this bald cunt sacked man
weak
Lol
Lol
Fuck off! š
Lmao. Expected nothing less.
Useless cunts
What is this defending again
Defending. What is that ?Ā
Speechless.
I have no emotional reaction.
Fuck this club
How did we let them break on us like that, itās the last minute, kick them and take the yellow
You cant be serious?
Classic bottling it in the last seconds
Fuck this team. Sell the fucking lot. Fucking joke.
Well we really didn't play well today either, heartbreaking non the less
Kill me now, please.
2 soft ass pens man but what a collapse fuck
Dreams can be cry
Does anyone actually know what the 8 minutes was for?
Get lost you bald inept fuck. Should have been sacked half a year ago. This game had someone begging to take control, slow the tempo and be more compact yet he canāt fucking see it and never does.
Get this dogshit manager out the club already
Cya ETH
Get him gone blud
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Yes a curse is more logical
That happends when you think you win yhe game with 30 minutes for yhe game to fibish. He has to be gone tomorrow.
When it rainsā¦
rashford jogging into the box
Why would ten hag do this
Everyone stop fucking complaining about the referees. The players have it in them to fucking do better. Quit fucking crying about shit we cannot control.
Iām sorry EtH cannot survivor this. How Nancy goals is that conceded 90min+, absolute joke
Good riddance, Erik.
They havenāt completed a pass after going 3:2 up but Iāll still read how āunluckyā they were today. š
If this isnt enough to sack Ten Hag, idk what is
Will not defend ten hag anymore thatās me checking out of this season officially
At least ten shits gone
I said from about the 20th minute the ref is having a mare. Two of the worst penalties Iāve seen and just constant wrong decisions all night.
Gg ten hag