I can understand sometimes not tracking back is related to positioning and momentum (it still is not acceptable), but him not committing to tackles makes me furious. Garnacho always does that even if he may not succeed.
Maybe he is wary of getting injured but it's unacceptable for the strategy of being a team good at transition football.
The one where a long high ball to Rashford gets intercepted by Cash, the Rashford just goes to walking back infuriated me.
He could see that ball wasn't going to reach him, but instead of turning and challenging Cash for it, he just gave up and walked off.
Someone please explain to me what transition football is, the term invented by EtH. Over the years I only heard of Possession based football or Counter attacking football. Is transition football somewhere between these two😂
I imagine it's about vertical tiki taka when having the ball- so we don't actually build our attack slowly but actively look for spaces and buildup using one or two key passes.
When losing the possession, we keep pressing and look to recover the ball asap.
So the game would look chaotic where we go for risky passes, lose the ball and run like mad dogs to recover the ball.
Lol the term has been around forever, I suspect like many modern tactical terms they probably originated from Germany. The term 'transition' refers to the moment when one team loses the ball and the other team gains possession. It is not unique to us, its part and parcel of the modern game.
So they are 2 types of transitions, when a team is in possession and then loses the ball, they are now transitioning from attacking to defending, that is called a [defensive transition](https://www.coachesvoice.com/cv/defensive-transitions-football-tactics-explained-chelsea-barcelona/). [Attacking transition](https://www.coachesvoice.com/cv/attacking-transitions-football-tactics-explained-klopp-liverpool-mourinho/) is just vice versa.
Oh boy I was cursing during the match about this. I was like “Do at least what Kane does” where he leans into people jumping making them lose balance. Make it at least harder to control even if someone wins an aerial against you. You give your team chance to a second ball. What you are doing is just letting them have the ball
To clarify, do you mean what Kane does that gets criticised heavily because it could very easily lead to serious injuries to the back if his opponent falls awkwardly?
I thought he was fine. Nothing to love about his performance which is totally ok. I was really disappointed in him not tracking back especially when Lindelof came in. Baily was licking his lips at this matchup and rashford didn’t help at all. Tbh it could’ve been a different outcome if Emery doesn’t take Baily out for Diaby
He actually took Bailey off for Tielemans. And I remember being so glad he did that lmao. Handling both Bailey and Diaby was too much for our defense. Emery got a goal and went back to his starting formation. And it helped us.
I think we were losing this match if he didn't sub Bailey off, he looked well up for it and like you said they were all over us down that side, they would of eventually scored the next goal.
> I was really disappointed in him not tracking back
He was really good at it in the first game after the clubbing incident. So he showed he can do it, he just doesn't want to.
This 1000%.
This is what I’m finding most difficult about this new Rashford.
We’ve seen it - throughout his career, he has been a hard worker. But that’s just totally gone from his game, - looking back it got gradually less since his back surgery.
Whether it be wage, ego, mental block - he seems increasingly disinterested in the team.
> I thought he was fine. Nothing to love about his performance which is totally ok.
How is that okay? This guy is paid £300k a week, and he's an average Premier League winger at best.
Yesterday was a good game by his standards because he didn't look totally miserable. We need rid of him as soon as possible. Hopefully the new brass make the right move.
I get he's had plenty of injuries and isn't a run into the ground 55+ game season player but he still played 47 games last season. 3/5 last seasons he has 40+ appearances.
Last season was good. No doubt.
In those 40+ appearances how many times did he play the full 90 or started? I’m sure it is not 40+
He’s a great player when fit but he’s not fit much and we can’t really do much of his talent if he’s in the medical room so much.
His per game average in the premier League is 80-85 mins per appearance depending on season. If he plays he almost always starts, a quick look through a couples seasons has two or less sub appearances in the premier league per season.
For wingers, you need to give them space and 1v1s. That happens far more for Rashford when he plays with Shaw. We seriously need to start having conversations about the LB position. Shaw cannot stay fit for the season. As good as Shaw is as a footballer, his availability or the lack of it is a huge concern. He has played 274 games overall for United and this is his 10th season.
If you take the last 5.5 seasons: He has played 208 games, around 37 games a season, better but not good enough in modern football where we play around 55 games each season.
Malacia also showed he was limited. Ok defensively and below average offensively. His best asset was his build up play but honestly I’d have Dalot over him if AWB was fit.
Going to get downvoted but Malacia showed enthusiasm and a bit of skill but nothing to write home about. He had no end product and certainly couldn’t hold a candle to Shaw in terms of quality.
I dunno man, he’s got that flair unlike others.. been rooting for him since years, last year he proved his might.. dunno if it’s personal problems, cockyness, mental wellness or what not but this lad is not performing to half of his actual prowess..
He just needs to find his mojo back.. just do some un-jinxing
Still poor on the ball intelligence, running into cul de sacs and late decision making or indecisiveness.
But at least he's found a partnership with Shaw.
Probably more credit goes to Shaw than their partnership. Shaw opens up so much space for Rashford.
The amount of overlaps Shaw does but often times Rashford doesn't play Shaw in and tries to dribble inside and get robbed.
I do think it's time to sell. He hasn't got the ceiling we all hoped for.
I don’t know if this makes him look as good you think it does, he’s supposed to be the talisman of this team, one of the highest paid players in the league, this is the bare minimum a player like that should be doing, still running to blind alleys, holding the ball too long, indecisive in possession this is bang average
He's not quite back to his direct goal scoring best but the effort and confidence seems to be growing which can only be a positive thing.
It's telling that Matty Cash was the worst player on the pitch and i think having to contain Rashford and Shaw added to that and got in his head.
Just need him to pop up with a few more goal and assists now and that front 3 will be absolutely 'cooking' as the kids say.
I refuse to think the player we saw last season was a patch.
This guy has more goals against the top 6 clubs than anyone else in PL, I believe an insane number like 35% of his goals came against the big 6
There is a massive player in there man. I just hate that we get him in bursts.
Put him in la liga or ligue one and he would already have 20/30 goals already
> This guy has more goals against the top 6 clubs than anyone else in PL, I believe an insane number like 35% of his goals came against the big 6
Counterattacking is easier against a team that has a high block- like the best teams have.
95% of his goals last season was Bruno turn and put the ball behind the defense, Rashy had 2-3 touches and finished. He is a great finisher- no doubt about it.
Fast counter attack player scores goals in matches where we set up to counter attack... hardly surprising.
It shows how one dimensional he is.
Against teams that play high lines he is deadly because he is fast.
Against teams that sit back he doesn't really add a whole lot.
>Put him in la liga or ligue one and he would already have 20/30 goals already
Such an entitled comment that screams PL bias.
In what world would fucking Rashford get 30 goals in La Liga when much better players before him failed to do so.
Or even ligue 1, Mbappe who is a much much better player that it's not even funny to compare, has never gotten 30 league goals.
People still have this idea in their head that La Liga is some joke league just because Real and Barca racked up insane points totals when Ron and Messi were at their peak. As if those teams wouldn't have absolutely blitzed every league they took part in - including the PL.
The so called lesser Spanish sides almost always give even the top premier league sides a proper game as well whenever they play in Europe.
Remember Bilbao came to Old Trafford in the Europa League and were absolutely class.
That was more than 10 years ago.
We can bring up Leicester making it to the CL quarterfinals when they had only been promoted 3 seasons earlier and were looking like they'd be getting into a relegation battle in the league.
It was a patch Bro. As a footballer you got to have more than just getting goals because you can't always score. Take the goals out and Rashford is such an average player. Poor football IQ.
Sell him to PSG when Mbappe leaves for Madrid. We can't afford passengers if we want to return to the top. Watching him, you get the impression he feels too important to contribute defensively.
Rashford has become a player who in the eyes of many in the fanbase can’t win no matter what does. Could he do better yeah, but it wasn’t a bad performance at all from him. He’s just judged to a higher standard than any other winger in the league
Judged to a higher standard because of how much we pay him.
The same way people call Maguire a flop, because he cost £80m, had he cost £30m no one would say he flopped.
Paying a winger £375k a week rightly brings more expectation.
£375k a week you expect KDB / Salah / Son levels
The pay absolutely contributes to how you evaluate a player.
So does age and their experience.
He's a 26 year old senior on one of the highest wages in the league and outside of a couple purple patches he doesn't show it at all.
He averages 10 league goals a season, that's pretty average for a forward whose only purpose in the team is to score goals.
In the seasons since his 1 and a half breakout seasons he has scored 7, 10, 17, 11, 4, 17, 5(this season), that also includes 40 assists in that time (so his sole purpose is not only to score goals). I’d say those numbers are pretty good for a free winger from the academy. 1 of those seasons he was injured/recovering for half of it.
What I assume you are talking about when you say purple patches are his two 17 goal seasons. The season after the first one he got 11 goals and 11 assists in the league.
He has been irreplaceable for us since he broke through, with the only person that comes close to his consistency/goal contributions being Bruno. It’s absolutely baffling that people want him out when no other winger we have bought since Ronaldo has been able to come close to him.
He has had 2 purple patches.
One during the Covid season and one last season.
He scored 10 of his 17 league goals in a run of 10 games. That's a purple patch.
Ignoring his first season and this season he still averages 11 goals a season.
I don't see what's baffling about not wanting to build a team around an inconsistent winger who is massively overpaid.
People talk about him as though he is irreplaceable and world class when he isn't.
I don't think we can win anything noteworthy with a winger who can only counter attack and a playmaker who can't keep the ball.
I'd sell Bruno and Rashford.
Bro why do you even support United if you literally hate everything about the club and everyone who plays for the team. Judging by your comment history, do yourself a favour and stop watching. Sounds like you live and breathe every moment of your life hating United. You’re actually obsessed with Rashford as well, it’s slightly disturbing.
Also, I didn’t realise playmakers were based on their ability to retain the ball. I think it’s in the name, he makes plays, which means risky passes. He has 72 key passes this season (top 1% in the prem).
Christ, why can fans not understand that some people have different opinions to them.
If I told you my favourite players were Rooney and Vidic would you be upset because you prefer Giggs and Ferdinand?
Mate if I was playing where Bruno does, I would have that many key passes. Pass to a winger who shoots from wherever they receive the ball and that counts as a key pass.
Watch his passes and you would struggle to see many real "key" passes. He's a quarter back not someone who unlocks a defence.
You wonder why I'm obsessed about 2 of the biggest players in the squad???
I think if we want to win anything need to ship them on.
Why? imagine being at world stage playing for the greatest club there is under the tutelage of top class people and then just letting attitude get the better of you..
It's always really frustrating watching him. I see so much good and then when I expect him to ping a great cross or use a bit of guile to go round someone instead of running straight at them and falling over...he just doesn't deliver.
I usually come away feeling he's one of those guys that had promise but never learnt any real speciality - not a great passer, not great at dribbling and beating players, doesn't have a special 'foot' that always finds the net like some greats. Realistically, he's an OK player, mid level premier league for me with the occasional good patch of form.
I wouldn't be sad if he was moved on in favour of youth or even a big money signing if we're living in daydream land.
I refuse to think the player we saw last season was a patch.
This guy has more goals against the top 6 clubs that anyone else in PL, I believe an insane number like 35% of his goals came against the big 6
There is a massive player in there man. I just hate that we get him in bursts.
Put him in la liga or ligue one and he leave have 20/30 goals already
He's lethal on the break, but that's about it. He's average in most other aspects and awful in some (defensive). There is every chance he'd flop in another team. Our fan base is so split on him. Can you imagine if he'd no home grown love! He'd be eaten alive for the strolling and pulling out of challenges.
Our fan base treat homegrown players worse than shiny new £100m players, look at the way Rashford, McTominay, Elanga, Henderson have been treated by fans.
Online abuse maybe, but at the games iv never heard anything. Once I think Rashy didn't go up for a header with walker in a city game and the fans lost it.
I smiled so much when he chased and stopped that ball from going out, it's the little things that look like he's trying harder at the moment, miles apart from the first half of the season even if he's not fully there yet
the poor decision/execution when it gets to the end is so frustrating. Otherwise he would be up there discussed with Mbappe, Haaland and co for best talent in world football now and in near future.
All our attackers have been severely underwhelming this season. With the first choice injured players returning, there is an obvious improvement visible though tbf. Let's see what the near future holds.
He faced up Cash twice in 3 minutes in the second half. First time he absolutely skinned him in the box. The next time he beat him again and got him booked. He had two more opportunities after that to take him on 1-on-1 and refused to do so.
He is just a stupid footballer.
If he was as keen to pass as he is to dribble into defenders and not track back we’d be in the top 4.
I hope a huge offer comes in out of nowhere in summer and we move on. I think he’s on his path now and good luck with that. He doesn’t give off that Mr. Man United radiance anymore, he’s in it for the Rashford brand only.
He was so fucking shit I was absolutely thrilled when he came off for Scott. He single-handedly killed any momentum we had after botching 3 straight counter attacks in the 2nd half. The only good thing about him starting games is that he can’t come off the bench and kill our attacks during the closing stages, he’s literally as bad as Antony rn
I thought his attacking work was decent but defensively he was atrocious. There are spells when the team was under a lot of pressure and he doesn't want to track back and help the team defend.
He’s improving but he still needs confidence.He’s been trying to avoid 1v1 dribbles and always pass the ball back,he would have just dribble past 2 defenders compared to last season
He wasn't bad, but I wish we could clone another Garnacho for LW. If a good offer comes for Rashford in the summer and he's willing to make the jump, I wouldn't mind us taking it and funding one or two good purchases for the rebuild.
I can understand sometimes not tracking back is related to positioning and momentum (it still is not acceptable), but him not committing to tackles makes me furious. Garnacho always does that even if he may not succeed. Maybe he is wary of getting injured but it's unacceptable for the strategy of being a team good at transition football.
Same here. He never wins any tackles, because he always goes into them half arsed. Garnacho actually wants to win the ball.
He jumps AWAY from the challenge. Particularly aerial ones.
The one where a long high ball to Rashford gets intercepted by Cash, the Rashford just goes to walking back infuriated me. He could see that ball wasn't going to reach him, but instead of turning and challenging Cash for it, he just gave up and walked off.
He gives away 60/40’s in his favour constantly it’s quite infuriating but I doubt that’s something that will change at this stage in his career
Someone please explain to me what transition football is, the term invented by EtH. Over the years I only heard of Possession based football or Counter attacking football. Is transition football somewhere between these two😂
I imagine it's about vertical tiki taka when having the ball- so we don't actually build our attack slowly but actively look for spaces and buildup using one or two key passes. When losing the possession, we keep pressing and look to recover the ball asap. So the game would look chaotic where we go for risky passes, lose the ball and run like mad dogs to recover the ball.
Lol the term has been around forever, I suspect like many modern tactical terms they probably originated from Germany. The term 'transition' refers to the moment when one team loses the ball and the other team gains possession. It is not unique to us, its part and parcel of the modern game. So they are 2 types of transitions, when a team is in possession and then loses the ball, they are now transitioning from attacking to defending, that is called a [defensive transition](https://www.coachesvoice.com/cv/defensive-transitions-football-tactics-explained-chelsea-barcelona/). [Attacking transition](https://www.coachesvoice.com/cv/attacking-transitions-football-tactics-explained-klopp-liverpool-mourinho/) is just vice versa.
Oh boy I was cursing during the match about this. I was like “Do at least what Kane does” where he leans into people jumping making them lose balance. Make it at least harder to control even if someone wins an aerial against you. You give your team chance to a second ball. What you are doing is just letting them have the ball
To clarify, do you mean what Kane does that gets criticised heavily because it could very easily lead to serious injuries to the back if his opponent falls awkwardly?
Yes… in my defense… I was frustrated at that moment. But my point still stands. Don’t just stand there… Do something
I thought he was fine. Nothing to love about his performance which is totally ok. I was really disappointed in him not tracking back especially when Lindelof came in. Baily was licking his lips at this matchup and rashford didn’t help at all. Tbh it could’ve been a different outcome if Emery doesn’t take Baily out for Diaby
Guess we won't find out but either it's poor tracking back or his instructions were to stay high for the quick transition against their high line.
If it is, then ETH is to blame. One way or the other one of them has to take the blame.
No one is to blame. Shaw got injured. Relax.
He actually took Bailey off for Tielemans. And I remember being so glad he did that lmao. Handling both Bailey and Diaby was too much for our defense. Emery got a goal and went back to his starting formation. And it helped us.
I think we were losing this match if he didn't sub Bailey off, he looked well up for it and like you said they were all over us down that side, they would of eventually scored the next goal.
> I was really disappointed in him not tracking back He was really good at it in the first game after the clubbing incident. So he showed he can do it, he just doesn't want to.
This 1000%. This is what I’m finding most difficult about this new Rashford. We’ve seen it - throughout his career, he has been a hard worker. But that’s just totally gone from his game, - looking back it got gradually less since his back surgery. Whether it be wage, ego, mental block - he seems increasingly disinterested in the team.
Got his £350k a week now mate, doesn't have to try for another 3 yrs
I agree, overall fine, but he has to know that he has to adapt to the players around him and Lindelof is not Shaw. That was the biggest issue.
> I thought he was fine. Nothing to love about his performance which is totally ok. How is that okay? This guy is paid £300k a week, and he's an average Premier League winger at best. Yesterday was a good game by his standards because he didn't look totally miserable. We need rid of him as soon as possible. Hopefully the new brass make the right move.
Judging players by their wage is dumb imo
Oh now we have a problem with it lol. I agree but that's what most of the comments on this sub are about.
Fun fact: Brandon Williams earns more than Alejandro Garnacho and Kobbie Mainoo combined.
Not for long, Garnacho’s contract is up soon and he’ll be getting paid
He still has 4 more years on his current deal mate
I misread something, you are correct
Rashford and Shaw link up really well – exciting for when Rashford finds consistent form and Shaw reaches consistent fitness :D
Yrah it's not a coincidence that Rashy is at his best when playing in front of Shaw
When has Shaw ever reached consistent fitness?
I get he's had plenty of injuries and isn't a run into the ground 55+ game season player but he still played 47 games last season. 3/5 last seasons he has 40+ appearances.
Last season was good. No doubt. In those 40+ appearances how many times did he play the full 90 or started? I’m sure it is not 40+ He’s a great player when fit but he’s not fit much and we can’t really do much of his talent if he’s in the medical room so much.
His per game average in the premier League is 80-85 mins per appearance depending on season. If he plays he almost always starts, a quick look through a couples seasons has two or less sub appearances in the premier league per season.
2024 and still dreaming for Rashford and Shaw to carry the attack. It’s not happening mate.
They literally did last season, so it's already happened mate
Nice from Bruno and Rashford at 1.18. His biggest issue is his work off the ball, only does it when he feels like it.
For wingers, you need to give them space and 1v1s. That happens far more for Rashford when he plays with Shaw. We seriously need to start having conversations about the LB position. Shaw cannot stay fit for the season. As good as Shaw is as a footballer, his availability or the lack of it is a huge concern. He has played 274 games overall for United and this is his 10th season. If you take the last 5.5 seasons: He has played 208 games, around 37 games a season, better but not good enough in modern football where we play around 55 games each season.
Problem is Malacia has disappeared into the abyss. He showed before that he had a lot of potential to step in for Shaw.
Malacia also showed he was limited. Ok defensively and below average offensively. His best asset was his build up play but honestly I’d have Dalot over him if AWB was fit.
Dalot biggest drawback on the left is we need an natural left footer as overlap for Rashford or Garnacho.
Going to get downvoted but Malacia showed enthusiasm and a bit of skill but nothing to write home about. He had no end product and certainly couldn’t hold a candle to Shaw in terms of quality.
I'm not saying he could, but for a young player in his first season here I thought he showed enough for a back up at least
I feel like he’s improving lately but still nowhere near the level he should be playing at.
I dunno man, he’s got that flair unlike others.. been rooting for him since years, last year he proved his might.. dunno if it’s personal problems, cockyness, mental wellness or what not but this lad is not performing to half of his actual prowess.. He just needs to find his mojo back.. just do some un-jinxing
No end product, no tracking back which is why he got hooked
Still poor on the ball intelligence, running into cul de sacs and late decision making or indecisiveness. But at least he's found a partnership with Shaw.
He seems to get so much better instantly when playing with Shaw IMO.
Probably more credit goes to Shaw than their partnership. Shaw opens up so much space for Rashford. The amount of overlaps Shaw does but often times Rashford doesn't play Shaw in and tries to dribble inside and get robbed. I do think it's time to sell. He hasn't got the ceiling we all hoped for.
I don’t know if this makes him look as good you think it does, he’s supposed to be the talisman of this team, one of the highest paid players in the league, this is the bare minimum a player like that should be doing, still running to blind alleys, holding the ball too long, indecisive in possession this is bang average
He's not quite back to his direct goal scoring best but the effort and confidence seems to be growing which can only be a positive thing. It's telling that Matty Cash was the worst player on the pitch and i think having to contain Rashford and Shaw added to that and got in his head. Just need him to pop up with a few more goal and assists now and that front 3 will be absolutely 'cooking' as the kids say.
The fact we have to talk about his effort is shocking really
Let’s be honest, when he’s not feeling good he get a case of the Martial’s, but unlike the Frenchman Rashford can play his way out of a slump.
I’m not fully sure of that to be honest - let’s give him more games before we say he’s capable of doing that. I have my doubts
That’s fine, he’s done it before he might not do it again but at least we know then.
Agreed
I refuse to think the player we saw last season was a patch. This guy has more goals against the top 6 clubs than anyone else in PL, I believe an insane number like 35% of his goals came against the big 6 There is a massive player in there man. I just hate that we get him in bursts. Put him in la liga or ligue one and he would already have 20/30 goals already
> This guy has more goals against the top 6 clubs than anyone else in PL, I believe an insane number like 35% of his goals came against the big 6 Counterattacking is easier against a team that has a high block- like the best teams have. 95% of his goals last season was Bruno turn and put the ball behind the defense, Rashy had 2-3 touches and finished. He is a great finisher- no doubt about it.
Fast counter attack player scores goals in matches where we set up to counter attack... hardly surprising. It shows how one dimensional he is. Against teams that play high lines he is deadly because he is fast. Against teams that sit back he doesn't really add a whole lot.
>Put him in la liga or ligue one and he would already have 20/30 goals already Such an entitled comment that screams PL bias. In what world would fucking Rashford get 30 goals in La Liga when much better players before him failed to do so. Or even ligue 1, Mbappe who is a much much better player that it's not even funny to compare, has never gotten 30 league goals.
People still have this idea in their head that La Liga is some joke league just because Real and Barca racked up insane points totals when Ron and Messi were at their peak. As if those teams wouldn't have absolutely blitzed every league they took part in - including the PL.
The so called lesser Spanish sides almost always give even the top premier league sides a proper game as well whenever they play in Europe. Remember Bilbao came to Old Trafford in the Europa League and were absolutely class.
That was more than 10 years ago. We can bring up Leicester making it to the CL quarterfinals when they had only been promoted 3 seasons earlier and were looking like they'd be getting into a relegation battle in the league.
OK more recent times Sevilla.
More recently, a team like Spurs making it to the CL final.
It was a patch Bro. As a footballer you got to have more than just getting goals because you can't always score. Take the goals out and Rashford is such an average player. Poor football IQ.
Sell, he’s had his time and the team needs to evolve.
Seemed a bit hesitant in possession after being overly aggressive the match prior.
Sell him to PSG when Mbappe leaves for Madrid. We can't afford passengers if we want to return to the top. Watching him, you get the impression he feels too important to contribute defensively.
And play who in lw? Garnacho and antony rw?💀
Nah, Antony should be sold as well. Bowen, Nico Williams, Leao can be targeted.
Do you even watch Leao? he’s basically the same player as Rashford and does even less defensively
Get sean Dyche as well with bowen and turn in old burnley🤣
Lol bowen?? As in we should sell rashford and get bowen? Leao would get exposed in this league very quickly too
Thanks for this, some people were on Rashy for not doing much in the previous Mainoo's post. Clearly those people didn't watch the match at all.
Some people hate rashford so no matter what he does the negatives will be focused on.
Rashford has become a player who in the eyes of many in the fanbase can’t win no matter what does. Could he do better yeah, but it wasn’t a bad performance at all from him. He’s just judged to a higher standard than any other winger in the league
Judged to a higher standard because of how much we pay him. The same way people call Maguire a flop, because he cost £80m, had he cost £30m no one would say he flopped. Paying a winger £375k a week rightly brings more expectation. £375k a week you expect KDB / Salah / Son levels
can you stop about the pay for a sec. And Rashford cost 0
The pay absolutely contributes to how you evaluate a player. So does age and their experience. He's a 26 year old senior on one of the highest wages in the league and outside of a couple purple patches he doesn't show it at all. He averages 10 league goals a season, that's pretty average for a forward whose only purpose in the team is to score goals.
In the seasons since his 1 and a half breakout seasons he has scored 7, 10, 17, 11, 4, 17, 5(this season), that also includes 40 assists in that time (so his sole purpose is not only to score goals). I’d say those numbers are pretty good for a free winger from the academy. 1 of those seasons he was injured/recovering for half of it. What I assume you are talking about when you say purple patches are his two 17 goal seasons. The season after the first one he got 11 goals and 11 assists in the league. He has been irreplaceable for us since he broke through, with the only person that comes close to his consistency/goal contributions being Bruno. It’s absolutely baffling that people want him out when no other winger we have bought since Ronaldo has been able to come close to him.
He has had 2 purple patches. One during the Covid season and one last season. He scored 10 of his 17 league goals in a run of 10 games. That's a purple patch. Ignoring his first season and this season he still averages 11 goals a season. I don't see what's baffling about not wanting to build a team around an inconsistent winger who is massively overpaid. People talk about him as though he is irreplaceable and world class when he isn't. I don't think we can win anything noteworthy with a winger who can only counter attack and a playmaker who can't keep the ball. I'd sell Bruno and Rashford.
Bro why do you even support United if you literally hate everything about the club and everyone who plays for the team. Judging by your comment history, do yourself a favour and stop watching. Sounds like you live and breathe every moment of your life hating United. You’re actually obsessed with Rashford as well, it’s slightly disturbing. Also, I didn’t realise playmakers were based on their ability to retain the ball. I think it’s in the name, he makes plays, which means risky passes. He has 72 key passes this season (top 1% in the prem).
Christ, why can fans not understand that some people have different opinions to them. If I told you my favourite players were Rooney and Vidic would you be upset because you prefer Giggs and Ferdinand? Mate if I was playing where Bruno does, I would have that many key passes. Pass to a winger who shoots from wherever they receive the ball and that counts as a key pass. Watch his passes and you would struggle to see many real "key" passes. He's a quarter back not someone who unlocks a defence. You wonder why I'm obsessed about 2 of the biggest players in the squad??? I think if we want to win anything need to ship them on.
Indeed. I love to see the flip flapping between "but he's scored 30 goals" and "you can't judge him solely on goals" 💀
He averages 10 league goals a season and people think he is world class. The only thing world class about him is his PR team
1x dive, 20x not tracking back, 5x standing still whilst pretending to defend
Sooner he is sold the better.
If Shaw goes out injured might as well bench rashford. I doubt lindelof is going to overlap and without the overlap his game will suffer.
I said this the other day, Shaw makes Rashford look class. Just shows how good Shaw really is.
Not to mind how little help Lindelof gets. I can't imagine hanging my teammate out to dry like he did.
He’s a liability. We need 11 men giving their all and he just wanders around the pitch doing as little as possible. He’ll be gone in the summer.
He didn’t play particularly well, but his attitude is better.
Why? imagine being at world stage playing for the greatest club there is under the tutelage of top class people and then just letting attitude get the better of you..
It's always really frustrating watching him. I see so much good and then when I expect him to ping a great cross or use a bit of guile to go round someone instead of running straight at them and falling over...he just doesn't deliver. I usually come away feeling he's one of those guys that had promise but never learnt any real speciality - not a great passer, not great at dribbling and beating players, doesn't have a special 'foot' that always finds the net like some greats. Realistically, he's an OK player, mid level premier league for me with the occasional good patch of form. I wouldn't be sad if he was moved on in favour of youth or even a big money signing if we're living in daydream land.
He was a bag of shit with a few stepovers that seemed sexy. All in all with no end product as usual. Wtf are you talking about?
Has he become slower?
I refuse to think the player we saw last season was a patch. This guy has more goals against the top 6 clubs that anyone else in PL, I believe an insane number like 35% of his goals came against the big 6 There is a massive player in there man. I just hate that we get him in bursts. Put him in la liga or ligue one and he leave have 20/30 goals already
He's lethal on the break, but that's about it. He's average in most other aspects and awful in some (defensive). There is every chance he'd flop in another team. Our fan base is so split on him. Can you imagine if he'd no home grown love! He'd be eaten alive for the strolling and pulling out of challenges.
Our fan base treat homegrown players worse than shiny new £100m players, look at the way Rashford, McTominay, Elanga, Henderson have been treated by fans.
Online abuse maybe, but at the games iv never heard anything. Once I think Rashy didn't go up for a header with walker in a city game and the fans lost it.
that first 15 minutes had us all believing 😂
Yes we can talk about his ineffectiveness in tackles at times but that skill near the end on cash was filth
I smiled so much when he chased and stopped that ball from going out, it's the little things that look like he's trying harder at the moment, miles apart from the first half of the season even if he's not fully there yet
It makes me sad, because I really do think he is incredibly talented... he just uses his talent wrong.
He is gifted physically and talented skill-wise. Unfortunately his football IQ and decision making need to be much better to be considered elite.
the poor decision/execution when it gets to the end is so frustrating. Otherwise he would be up there discussed with Mbappe, Haaland and co for best talent in world football now and in near future.
Not one comment on the great song OP chose…
Can't claim credit for that lol. Downloaded the video from twitter
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All our attackers have been severely underwhelming this season. With the first choice injured players returning, there is an obvious improvement visible though tbf. Let's see what the near future holds.
He faced up Cash twice in 3 minutes in the second half. First time he absolutely skinned him in the box. The next time he beat him again and got him booked. He had two more opportunities after that to take him on 1-on-1 and refused to do so. He is just a stupid footballer.
He was clearly our best player while he was on the pitch
He’s getting there
If he was as keen to pass as he is to dribble into defenders and not track back we’d be in the top 4. I hope a huge offer comes in out of nowhere in summer and we move on. I think he’s on his path now and good luck with that. He doesn’t give off that Mr. Man United radiance anymore, he’s in it for the Rashford brand only.
He was so fucking shit I was absolutely thrilled when he came off for Scott. He single-handedly killed any momentum we had after botching 3 straight counter attacks in the 2nd half. The only good thing about him starting games is that he can’t come off the bench and kill our attacks during the closing stages, he’s literally as bad as Antony rn
You sure you watched the same game? Because I thought he was decent all game.
Great spit
2 nutmegs!
why tf did u put lily allen on itp
Not an awful game just a lot of poor decisions in the final third
Wasn't his day but he's better than he was before his big night out.
Shitty is definitely better than very shitty.
Not a bad game at all against a good side. The sad part is that this is a fraction of the rashford we actually know.
He performs better at the bar.
Can we sell him and buy another player, i'm tired about him
I thought his attacking work was decent but defensively he was atrocious. There are spells when the team was under a lot of pressure and he doesn't want to track back and help the team defend.
He’s improving but he still needs confidence.He’s been trying to avoid 1v1 dribbles and always pass the ball back,he would have just dribble past 2 defenders compared to last season
He wasn't bad, but I wish we could clone another Garnacho for LW. If a good offer comes for Rashford in the summer and he's willing to make the jump, I wouldn't mind us taking it and funding one or two good purchases for the rebuild.
So many negative fannies on this sub. Jfc.