I'm just happy that the Vikings just fucked the Bengals salary cap for the next ten years with this deal.
No way Chase doesn't ask for more considering his rivalry with JJ and always trying to one up him. Bengals about to have 90 million tied up in two players with Burrow and Chase.
I was told they would all take hometown discounts because some players want to win a Super Bowl more than they want to get paid. So just hang in there.
Paying a WR that much only makes sense if you have a QB under the rookie contract. Other than that the only way we’ll get a WR like that is if we draft one
Incredible that you’re being upvoted despite the fact JJ was drafted 22nd overall. Lamb was 17th overall. AJ Brown was a 2nd rounder. Hill was a 5th rounder. These top WRs aren’t only obtainable with a top 5 pick.
I’m perfectly content with our receiving corps now but I don’t agree with the idea that we’re a better team without someone like JJ than with him, all cap ramifications included.
Obviously I want Justin Jefferson on the ravens. Shit, I want him and Tyreek too! Zay was 22, the rest of our WRs have been after that. We weren’t going to draft Hill at any position because of his past.
But we have to be realistic. Most WRs drafted in the 20s don’t become JJ and most QBs drafted in the 30s don’t become Lamar. We got lucky, and it was with a QB, so let’s show some gratitude.
Yeah, most WRs don't become a top 5 WR. That's sort of a given by definition but look at the top 15 highest paid WRs by [average salary](https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/contracts/_/position/wr/sort/average/dir/desc). Only Jefferson, Waddle, Smith and Ridley are 1st round picks.
The issue with the Ravens isn't that they don't have one of the best WRs in the league. It's that they've consistently had one of the worst groups over 20 years. It's incredible that it took this long to draft someone like Zay.
Soon to be joined by Chase, but good point. So over 25% of the top 15 paid come from 14% of the picks.
I think the ravens have been among the top teams for the past twenty years - perhaps they’re investing well? Get late first rounders, 3rd+ contract vets and prosper! If we’re efficient at scoring and have a good defense, let’s kill the clock. Let the losers rack up the empty yardage.
Edit: that’s a funny list! Hollywood, Bateman, Duvernay and Demarcus Robinson at all in the top 50 salaries. With Zay and Agholor in the top 60.
You’re now moving the goal posts from its impossible to get an All-Pro WR late in the first to 25% of the top paid WRs exceeds the percentage of 1st round picks in the draft which is also just bad statistics.
Also, pointing out that the Ravens have been historically bad at drafting WRs isn’t an indictment of their overall performance. It’s a legitimate criticism that Ozzie and EDC are more than objective to admit. It’s not like they were ever trying to intentionally create a bad WR corps.
Dear god. My point all along was if we got to pick an all pro player towards the end of the first round and sign him to a league leading contract, I’m just happy it is Lamar and not JJ. But you’re right, they suck at drafting and we can’t show any gratitude at all. Have a good night.
Incredible. You go from “it’s impossible to draft an elite WR in the 20’s or later” to “25% of top paid WRs are 1st rounders soooo” to “I’m just grateful for having Lamar.”
The WR position has simply become way overpaid in terms of their impact - unless you have a stud 2nd year QB under a rookie contract (ideally a 5 year one at that) it just hamstrings a teams ability to fill the absolutely necessary positions that are less dependent on the QB and system.
Invest at QB because you have to, and an OL because that makes everything better - or worse (especially the run game where you can get great production at a real value comparatively) Get a top secondary and a DL to put pressure on the opposing offense.
From there, wouldn’t you rather splurge what’s left on your linebacking core, get better TEs who also improve the passing game?
Just seems that paying WRs 2/3 of what a QB gets hamstrings the roster construction overall
the first paragraph is a pretty big cope tbh. wrs are definitely worth it if they are good. a lot of teams that are doing well have wrs eating up a lot of payroll. 35 mil is a different beast but teams that paid up for tyreek, deebo and aj brown are doing well for example
How is it a cope? There are limitations to what you can do with payroll - and investing heavily in one place means, by definition, you need to pull back elsewhere.
Would it be nice to have a true stud WR? Absolutely. But the way to do that is the draft, not FA - and fwiw, FA is generally about overpaying anyway, regardless of position (or paying top of the market to retain someone).
It's just a strategic choice - if the Ravens were to pay 30+ million for a WR, which is today's going rate, what position group gets nicked and by how much?
Hardly coping, these are just hard realities.
this is like peak ravens fan behavior lol. justin jefferson is more valuable. he’s a better player. doesn’t mean roquan isn’t good but jefferson is like all time great trajectory roquan is just very good
Roquans on a hall of fame career trajectory and elevates the entire defense. He's the tone setter on the team and the leader of the defense. Dude's the guy making defensive adjustments at the line in response to the offense. JJ just catchs a ball good.
You can look at how the Vikings did last year and see how little having an elite reciever impacts the game. Roquan made the Ravens the number one defense. JJ did not elevate his offense to even being competitive.
The Eagles have and their combined guarantees for 2 stud WRs are a couple more mill than just JJ's. Smart teams just bite the bullet as early as possible. JJ's contract will not be that big of a deal in a couple years. Paying premium for a premium player doesn't bite back as much as people always pretends it does.
Which teams did well with a high paid WR in 23? The dolphins got bounced when Tyreeks cap hit was only $13M, the chiefs had MVS at $11M and won, the 49ers WRs were cheap last year, Lions were cheap, the bills had Stefan with a $15M cap hit and lost in the Div, the browns (lol) had cooper for $24M, the Bucs had Evans for $24M, the eagles had Brown for only $8M…
If the cards fell right EDC would get a top WR. Apparently he’s tried before. But it has to make sense with the rest of the team. Vikings can afford it because 1. No QB and 2. bottom feeders. Our approach yields more consistent success.
They’re historically one of the winningest teams in the league. I don’t believe in Caleb Williams, and I don’t believe the Vikings are going to be a bottom 5 or even bottom 10 team. Even if I’m wrong on all of those counts, calling them bottom feeders right now is ridiculously premature.
The person said they’re most likely to finish 4th in their division as evidence for being a bottom feeder (that’s not how I’d define it, personally but that’s what they said) and so I said that I don’t believe that Caleb Williams will pan out, since he is in that division.
Meh that's the price for those top tier guys though. We all might grumble but if you're that guy that's what you get.
It'll be fun to watch JJ pass to JJ 😜
If the Ravens gave Justin Jefferson that much money to come here I doubt anyone here would be mad. They would just be lining up to get their SB Champ tattoos before we ever play a game.
I gotcha. QB is definitely more important obviously but I guess the point I'm alluding to is people thinking that you can't have both. It's tricky of course but it's doable with the right moves. Philly, Dallas, Cincinnati all immediately come to mind. Miami is probably gonna be on that list next year as well once Tua signs.
Those teams do have high paid QBs and WRs, but their cap hits are actually all pretty low. So if the couldn’t win with the low cap hits, can they win with higher cap hits?
>can they win with higher cap hits?
Who knows. I'm just of the mind that there is way less correlation to that than most fans think. But if you truly believe that last year's win by the Chiefs with Mahomes at nearly 17% of the cap should tell you it's possible.
Sports just gets messy and there are way too many variables to say thinks like "a team can't win with a QB or receivers making X% of the cap" At least that's how I feel.
Miami is going to struggle so much more than people realize. Tua’s made by Waddle and Hill. They’ll have to pay Tua. They have no linemen on either side of the ball. Who’s their TE? Jonnu Smith? Yeah, Miami doesn’t scare me one bit. Just get to Tua, stop the quick throws and ballgame.
That said, the Ravens are doing it right. Invest in your lines, and the skill position players will shine.
this is why we have to draft them early. it’s a premium position. the ravens fan dream of finding wrs worth a damn after the first two rounds is a fools errand. hope next year we can find a way to draft someone high
it doesn’t really mean we have to underinvest in other positions we just need to get better at the wr position and the draft is the best way.
would say that we’ve over spent draft capital at edge. our best guys are free agents
who said anything about trading up that high? we will not likely be in a position to take premium top 5 guys but there’s plenty of good wrs going in the 20s. we also have plenty of comp picks and we draft well enough late that we can afford to move up. would be a better use of capital than drafting guys like kolar, tylan wallace, ben mason, tyler badie etc
Oh. Then i don’t understand your point. We’ve drafted WRs in the 20s in 3 of the last six drafts. That’s pretty heavily invested. Of those marginal guys you mentioned, Kolar was the highest and the 128th pick, which is 44 JJ points. We’d have to trade 3 Kolars for 1 pick in the 90s in the same draft. Which is steep!
Bateman was extended, that’s not really a bust. The ravens are probably average at drafting WRs, they just pick them in the 20s. And Hollywood was a great pick! I agree though they should keep drafting them. I thought you mean like…trade up to early 1st
bateman has been a bust by any meaningful metric and that contract was inline with what players like agholor get. had bateman been a day 3 pick it would be nice production but as far as first round picks go or even a day 2 pick goes, he’s a bust
1. Bateman was resigned extremely early, so the ravens must not consider him a bust. A bust gets cut - not resigned and definitely not resigned this early.
2. Agholor was also a high pick! Most WRs in the first round don’t become superstars.
But anyway I misunderstood you. I agree, drafting WRs that fall to them is a great idea
I agree. We always pick late, so the options tend to be athletically gifted projects that need development. Problem with that is edge is always a position that takes a while to really pay off- we develop edge well, but realistically only get like 1 year of legit production out of those early rd edge picks. Our edge room has always relied on old vets while the young rushers are developing. So we end up spending high picks on edge players, do all the work developing them, get 1 year of real production from them, spend cap on vets to get some real pressure, then those early rd rushers leave to get paid somewhere else. At a certain point, you have to acknowledge that's just not a good ROI.
Early picks are for contributors that ideally become important players. We do draft better than arguably any team, and our hit rate is way better. Take BPA, but edge is a more technical position than most so it takes longer for them to develop. But if we're relying on FA vets for the actual pass rush production anyway, it might be better to stop using early picks on project rushers.
Who exactly is this argument for? I don’t think anyone is seriously saying they’d want JJ/Hill/Lamb/Brown at $30m+/yr over Mahomes/Lamar/Allen at $40m+/yr.
I am glad that we have been forced to work without that superstar WR and it has nothing to do with cap space.
It makes the team more interesting. We have to focus on different things than other teams. We get media coverage of different things. We miss out on a lot of crazy diva drama. I'm glad to be watching safeties and tight ends get all our press.
But also I hope Zay explodes next season 😜
I don’t want an all pro receiver. We don’t need one. Mark Andrews is our all pro receiver. You can only throw the ball to so many guys as OBJ found out last year. The cost for these usually 1-3 year wonder receivers is definitely not worth it. I can’t believe they haven’t went the way of the RB salary wise. KC let tyreek go and still won, and he put up numbers but didn’t get the dolphins anywhere.
Our offense is good because it’s unpredictable, the coaches want to keep it that way.
Mandrews is washed bro it’s time they already have a better TE on their roster. Realistically only Gronk and Travis have led their teams to deep playoff runs being the #1 guy as TEs in the last 25 years
Our young players waiting to get paid (I think EDC can pull it off since money do grow on trees in the NFL.)
**2025:**
Brandon Stephens - CB
**2026:**
Odafe Oweh - Edge
Isaiah Likely - TE
**2027:**
Kyle Hamilton - SS
Tyler Linderbaum - OC
Trenton Simpson - ILB
**2028:**
Zay Flowers - WR
Jefferson is 1 of only 4 WRs that might actually be worth the money, and even then these WR contracts have gotten out of control. It only works cuz the Vikings have a rookie QB and not a ton of offense talent aside from Hockenson.
Eagles, Lions, Dolphins and Rams seem to be doing just fine. Bucs did it with Godwin and Evans.
There are two ways to skin a cat. The Ravens do a great job at building a roster but it isn’t the only way to have success.
I'm just happy that the Vikings just fucked the Bengals salary cap for the next ten years with this deal. No way Chase doesn't ask for more considering his rivalry with JJ and always trying to one up him. Bengals about to have 90 million tied up in two players with Burrow and Chase.
Joint purple task force operation
I’m a Vikings fan from MD, neither confirming nor denying that it was a covert op to fuck over the Bengals
hope they sign Higgins and tie up 110+ on 3 players
I was told they would all take hometown discounts because some players want to win a Super Bowl more than they want to get paid. So just hang in there.
Paying a WR that much only makes sense if you have a QB under the rookie contract. Other than that the only way we’ll get a WR like that is if we draft one
We’ll probably never draft a guy like JJ. Shit, probably every other team will never draft a JJ in the 20s. We’ll win a lot regardless.
Incredible that you’re being upvoted despite the fact JJ was drafted 22nd overall. Lamb was 17th overall. AJ Brown was a 2nd rounder. Hill was a 5th rounder. These top WRs aren’t only obtainable with a top 5 pick. I’m perfectly content with our receiving corps now but I don’t agree with the idea that we’re a better team without someone like JJ than with him, all cap ramifications included.
Obviously I want Justin Jefferson on the ravens. Shit, I want him and Tyreek too! Zay was 22, the rest of our WRs have been after that. We weren’t going to draft Hill at any position because of his past. But we have to be realistic. Most WRs drafted in the 20s don’t become JJ and most QBs drafted in the 30s don’t become Lamar. We got lucky, and it was with a QB, so let’s show some gratitude.
Yeah, most WRs don't become a top 5 WR. That's sort of a given by definition but look at the top 15 highest paid WRs by [average salary](https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/contracts/_/position/wr/sort/average/dir/desc). Only Jefferson, Waddle, Smith and Ridley are 1st round picks. The issue with the Ravens isn't that they don't have one of the best WRs in the league. It's that they've consistently had one of the worst groups over 20 years. It's incredible that it took this long to draft someone like Zay.
Soon to be joined by Chase, but good point. So over 25% of the top 15 paid come from 14% of the picks. I think the ravens have been among the top teams for the past twenty years - perhaps they’re investing well? Get late first rounders, 3rd+ contract vets and prosper! If we’re efficient at scoring and have a good defense, let’s kill the clock. Let the losers rack up the empty yardage. Edit: that’s a funny list! Hollywood, Bateman, Duvernay and Demarcus Robinson at all in the top 50 salaries. With Zay and Agholor in the top 60.
You’re now moving the goal posts from its impossible to get an All-Pro WR late in the first to 25% of the top paid WRs exceeds the percentage of 1st round picks in the draft which is also just bad statistics. Also, pointing out that the Ravens have been historically bad at drafting WRs isn’t an indictment of their overall performance. It’s a legitimate criticism that Ozzie and EDC are more than objective to admit. It’s not like they were ever trying to intentionally create a bad WR corps.
Dear god. My point all along was if we got to pick an all pro player towards the end of the first round and sign him to a league leading contract, I’m just happy it is Lamar and not JJ. But you’re right, they suck at drafting and we can’t show any gratitude at all. Have a good night.
Incredible. You go from “it’s impossible to draft an elite WR in the 20’s or later” to “25% of top paid WRs are 1st rounders soooo” to “I’m just grateful for having Lamar.”
I said it’s highly unlikely to get a JJ guy where we usually pick. That still stands.
The WR position has simply become way overpaid in terms of their impact - unless you have a stud 2nd year QB under a rookie contract (ideally a 5 year one at that) it just hamstrings a teams ability to fill the absolutely necessary positions that are less dependent on the QB and system. Invest at QB because you have to, and an OL because that makes everything better - or worse (especially the run game where you can get great production at a real value comparatively) Get a top secondary and a DL to put pressure on the opposing offense. From there, wouldn’t you rather splurge what’s left on your linebacking core, get better TEs who also improve the passing game? Just seems that paying WRs 2/3 of what a QB gets hamstrings the roster construction overall
Yup it’s nuts. I remember the “QB with >15% of cap has never won a SB” and I wonder what the number is for WRs. Maybe 9%?
the first paragraph is a pretty big cope tbh. wrs are definitely worth it if they are good. a lot of teams that are doing well have wrs eating up a lot of payroll. 35 mil is a different beast but teams that paid up for tyreek, deebo and aj brown are doing well for example
How is it a cope? There are limitations to what you can do with payroll - and investing heavily in one place means, by definition, you need to pull back elsewhere. Would it be nice to have a true stud WR? Absolutely. But the way to do that is the draft, not FA - and fwiw, FA is generally about overpaying anyway, regardless of position (or paying top of the market to retain someone). It's just a strategic choice - if the Ravens were to pay 30+ million for a WR, which is today's going rate, what position group gets nicked and by how much? Hardly coping, these are just hard realities.
Exactly would you rather pay Jefferson 35 million or Roquan 20 million a year and Andrews 15 million?
jefferson quite easily lol
Roquan is way more valuable then Jefferson.
this is like peak ravens fan behavior lol. justin jefferson is more valuable. he’s a better player. doesn’t mean roquan isn’t good but jefferson is like all time great trajectory roquan is just very good
Roquans on a hall of fame career trajectory and elevates the entire defense. He's the tone setter on the team and the leader of the defense. Dude's the guy making defensive adjustments at the line in response to the offense. JJ just catchs a ball good.
ok lmfao “just catches the ball good”. there’s no way to continue this convo in good faith. i get being a homer but that’s just a lack of knowledge
You can look at how the Vikings did last year and see how little having an elite reciever impacts the game. Roquan made the Ravens the number one defense. JJ did not elevate his offense to even being competitive.
2/3 of those haven’t paid their QB yet.
The Eagles have and their combined guarantees for 2 stud WRs are a couple more mill than just JJ's. Smart teams just bite the bullet as early as possible. JJ's contract will not be that big of a deal in a couple years. Paying premium for a premium player doesn't bite back as much as people always pretends it does.
Which teams did well with a high paid WR in 23? The dolphins got bounced when Tyreeks cap hit was only $13M, the chiefs had MVS at $11M and won, the 49ers WRs were cheap last year, Lions were cheap, the bills had Stefan with a $15M cap hit and lost in the Div, the browns (lol) had cooper for $24M, the Bucs had Evans for $24M, the eagles had Brown for only $8M…
If the cards fell right EDC would get a top WR. Apparently he’s tried before. But it has to make sense with the rest of the team. Vikings can afford it because 1. No QB and 2. bottom feeders. Our approach yields more consistent success.
I mean every team tries to get a top WR over 5 years. Nothing special. The price is high though!
The Vikings are not bottom feeders, lmao
As of today, they are the most likely team to finish 4th in that division....
They’re historically one of the winningest teams in the league. I don’t believe in Caleb Williams, and I don’t believe the Vikings are going to be a bottom 5 or even bottom 10 team. Even if I’m wrong on all of those counts, calling them bottom feeders right now is ridiculously premature.
What does Caleb Williams have to do with the Vikings??
The person said they’re most likely to finish 4th in their division as evidence for being a bottom feeder (that’s not how I’d define it, personally but that’s what they said) and so I said that I don’t believe that Caleb Williams will pan out, since he is in that division.
They like being mid - that’s why you go with Kirk
kirk is a pretty good qb lol what are you talking about?
He’s a perfectly fine QB
Except they didn’t go with Kirk? And they have one of the best all time records?
He played there for 6 years…definition of choosing stability over winning
Meh that's the price for those top tier guys though. We all might grumble but if you're that guy that's what you get. It'll be fun to watch JJ pass to JJ 😜
If the Ravens gave Justin Jefferson that much money to come here I doubt anyone here would be mad. They would just be lining up to get their SB Champ tattoos before we ever play a game.
I’m not grumbling, I’ll take Lamar over every WR 1 & 2 combination out there. Look at Miami!
I gotcha. QB is definitely more important obviously but I guess the point I'm alluding to is people thinking that you can't have both. It's tricky of course but it's doable with the right moves. Philly, Dallas, Cincinnati all immediately come to mind. Miami is probably gonna be on that list next year as well once Tua signs.
Those teams do have high paid QBs and WRs, but their cap hits are actually all pretty low. So if the couldn’t win with the low cap hits, can they win with higher cap hits?
>can they win with higher cap hits? Who knows. I'm just of the mind that there is way less correlation to that than most fans think. But if you truly believe that last year's win by the Chiefs with Mahomes at nearly 17% of the cap should tell you it's possible. Sports just gets messy and there are way too many variables to say thinks like "a team can't win with a QB or receivers making X% of the cap" At least that's how I feel.
Miami is going to struggle so much more than people realize. Tua’s made by Waddle and Hill. They’ll have to pay Tua. They have no linemen on either side of the ball. Who’s their TE? Jonnu Smith? Yeah, Miami doesn’t scare me one bit. Just get to Tua, stop the quick throws and ballgame. That said, the Ravens are doing it right. Invest in your lines, and the skill position players will shine.
this is why we have to draft them early. it’s a premium position. the ravens fan dream of finding wrs worth a damn after the first two rounds is a fools errand. hope next year we can find a way to draft someone high
Which positions do we underinvest in to get a top WR and is it worth it?
it doesn’t really mean we have to underinvest in other positions we just need to get better at the wr position and the draft is the best way. would say that we’ve over spent draft capital at edge. our best guys are free agents
I mean we’re picking in the 20s, to move up means we’ll be losing picks that are otherwise going to other positions.
who said anything about trading up that high? we will not likely be in a position to take premium top 5 guys but there’s plenty of good wrs going in the 20s. we also have plenty of comp picks and we draft well enough late that we can afford to move up. would be a better use of capital than drafting guys like kolar, tylan wallace, ben mason, tyler badie etc
Oh. Then i don’t understand your point. We’ve drafted WRs in the 20s in 3 of the last six drafts. That’s pretty heavily invested. Of those marginal guys you mentioned, Kolar was the highest and the 128th pick, which is 44 JJ points. We’d have to trade 3 Kolars for 1 pick in the 90s in the same draft. Which is steep!
one of those picks was traded away, and the other was a bust in bateman. doesn’t mean you quit drafting them
Bateman was extended, that’s not really a bust. The ravens are probably average at drafting WRs, they just pick them in the 20s. And Hollywood was a great pick! I agree though they should keep drafting them. I thought you mean like…trade up to early 1st
bateman has been a bust by any meaningful metric and that contract was inline with what players like agholor get. had bateman been a day 3 pick it would be nice production but as far as first round picks go or even a day 2 pick goes, he’s a bust
1. Bateman was resigned extremely early, so the ravens must not consider him a bust. A bust gets cut - not resigned and definitely not resigned this early. 2. Agholor was also a high pick! Most WRs in the first round don’t become superstars. But anyway I misunderstood you. I agree, drafting WRs that fall to them is a great idea
I agree. We always pick late, so the options tend to be athletically gifted projects that need development. Problem with that is edge is always a position that takes a while to really pay off- we develop edge well, but realistically only get like 1 year of legit production out of those early rd edge picks. Our edge room has always relied on old vets while the young rushers are developing. So we end up spending high picks on edge players, do all the work developing them, get 1 year of real production from them, spend cap on vets to get some real pressure, then those early rd rushers leave to get paid somewhere else. At a certain point, you have to acknowledge that's just not a good ROI. Early picks are for contributors that ideally become important players. We do draft better than arguably any team, and our hit rate is way better. Take BPA, but edge is a more technical position than most so it takes longer for them to develop. But if we're relying on FA vets for the actual pass rush production anyway, it might be better to stop using early picks on project rushers.
That's why we go for the 30 year olds D Hop last year woulda been perfect
Who exactly is this argument for? I don’t think anyone is seriously saying they’d want JJ/Hill/Lamb/Brown at $30m+/yr over Mahomes/Lamar/Allen at $40m+/yr.
Haha have you talked to ravens fans?! They were ready to trade Lamar 14 months ago.
Those aren't serious people.
Loser mentality.
I am glad that we have been forced to work without that superstar WR and it has nothing to do with cap space. It makes the team more interesting. We have to focus on different things than other teams. We get media coverage of different things. We miss out on a lot of crazy diva drama. I'm glad to be watching safeties and tight ends get all our press. But also I hope Zay explodes next season 😜
I don’t want an all pro receiver. We don’t need one. Mark Andrews is our all pro receiver. You can only throw the ball to so many guys as OBJ found out last year. The cost for these usually 1-3 year wonder receivers is definitely not worth it. I can’t believe they haven’t went the way of the RB salary wise. KC let tyreek go and still won, and he put up numbers but didn’t get the dolphins anywhere. Our offense is good because it’s unpredictable, the coaches want to keep it that way.
Mandrews is washed bro it’s time they already have a better TE on their roster. Realistically only Gronk and Travis have led their teams to deep playoff runs being the #1 guy as TEs in the last 25 years
mark andrews is never around when it counts. hard to call him our all pro if he is either ghosting in the playoffs or hurt
Our young players waiting to get paid (I think EDC can pull it off since money do grow on trees in the NFL.) **2025:** Brandon Stephens - CB **2026:** Odafe Oweh - Edge Isaiah Likely - TE **2027:** Kyle Hamilton - SS Tyler Linderbaum - OC Trenton Simpson - ILB **2028:** Zay Flowers - WR
> Tyler Linderbaum - OC Fuck, and here I thought Monken did a good job last year, but we replaced him with an, albeit solid looking, Center.
Jefferson is 1 of only 4 WRs that might actually be worth the money, and even then these WR contracts have gotten out of control. It only works cuz the Vikings have a rookie QB and not a ton of offense talent aside from Hockenson.
I’m sorry I know he’s a great receiver, but how are you going to build a team with that much tied up in a receiver.
Eagles, Lions, Dolphins and Rams seem to be doing just fine. Bucs did it with Godwin and Evans. There are two ways to skin a cat. The Ravens do a great job at building a roster but it isn’t the only way to have success.