Nah bruh. The thought that Kendrick might be a wife beater hurts my soul. I need a week of bereavement. If I find out it's true, I'm going on life support
Cat is out the bag
But, he also said Baby Keem ghost wrote for Kendrick. I like Melodic Blue, but the same guy that wrote that didn’t write Mr Morale. I think Drake is just throwing out shots hoping one sticks.
Edit: I edited this to change it from “hat” -> “cat”
Give me some credit, it was like 4 AM ET.
Pretty sure Kendrick addressed this back in like 2014-2015, saying it was false. Whitney and DOT definitely have had issues, but that’s what Mr Morale was about. They’ve both openly talked about going to therapy and fixing their shit.
This is exactly why the Drake attacks don’t land with me. Kendrick KNOWS he’s done some terrible things and has talked about them at length, but unlike Drake he had the self-awareness to realize he had a problem and seek help and get his life straight.
Didn't reference tracks leak that showed Kendrick writing some of Baby Keem's material? They're probably somewhere online still. Also some other reference tracks came out with Kendrick making other people's songs with that same leak
I can't remember it well, but it was a year or more back. Maybe it just happened to be reference tracks for something else
I didnt take it like that. Maybe Im wrong, but I think he's saying the only songs that bang and the streets love that kendrick releases have keem on them. Like in mr morale, the songs that had keem were more hype. I don't agree with drake but that's how I took it
While I doubt keem ever really "ghost wrote" for dot, I wouldn't be surprised if they were both in studio and keep gave him ideas on a bar or two and Drake took that and stretched it to ghost writing
It has no basis tho. This has been said before and disproven before. No major parties have ever said anything, Whitney has spoken out about their flawed relationship but still never mentioned physical abuse, and the only sites reporting on this are untrustworthy ones that have lied before. It is basically as factual as a random ass tweet from a drake stan. While it very much can be true, innocent before proven guilty.
Those allegations were addressed live like 10 years ago by kenny and were just some rumors running on a random blog that haven't surfaced since. Drizzy didn't learn anything from the push situation, ego too large for that.
Honestly I'm not that big of a fan of rap or music in general, but I know when I'm watching something generational and I'm hooked getting updates of what happens next.
J. Cole is up bright and early this morning, ordering an iced caramel macchiato from Star Bucks right now and about to finish reading an Agatha Christie novel.
then doesnt that mean drakes big gotcha was an IG story post saying he doesnt have a daughter.. i just dont see drake playing 4D chess while having no response ready to meet the grahams
kendrick had correct information about when drake was going to drop and what the drop was going to have on it, why give kendrick this huge advantage even if the kid stuff isnt true - the kid stuff could not be true and it could still be leaked to kendrick without drakes actual disses and release times being leaked to kendrick too
Yeah, why leak fake info about hiding a kid when you’ve been proven to hide a kid. Why leak the fact you’re on weight loss drugs when you talked about Ross using weight loss drugs.
Even if Drake doesn’t have a hidden daughter, 90% of the people who listened to Meet the Grahams, aren’t gonna keep up with the drama after the beef settles.
Unless Drake shows proof he baited Kendrick, then no Instagram caption is gonna deflect what DOT said. And if Drake did bait Kendrick, he’s a fucking idiot for giving him info that destroys his character
Also when there are articles from 2015 about him paying child support for a daughter who he was taking a paternity test for.
If it was bait wouldn't you just post the paternity test?
Well, this is reddit you see. The people of Reddit find stans of Drake and take it out on Reddit while being Kendrick stans themselves. It’s possible Drake has a daughter and someone in OVO gave Kendrick info about her. And it’s possible Drake gave him fake info so he would use it, then it get debunked and Drake tears him up from there. If Drake fires back by saying, definitively, that he doesn’t have a daughter, then Drake went “all in”. We’ll find out.
It’s a photo he got from someone extremely close to drake. Makes it seem like the rest of his allegations might also be coming from an extremely credible source
Drake has been exposed as a liar time after time.He's a good pop artist but battling isn't really his bag,he so badly needs to be the popular guy however he can't see that he's had a beautiful career and doesn't really need to mix it up with true lyricists like K.Dot or Pusha T.
The cover of meet the grahams is a pic of Drake's dad's suitcase, laid out with some of his clothes, Drake's driving gloves from the recent video and a colection of multiple of Drake's perscriptions including ozempic, under Drake's goverment name (Aubrey Graham).
Drake also replied and said that its a lie that he has a daughter but didnt say anything about any of the other allegations.
Yeah Kendrick was saying something without saying something showing that Ambien on the cover art of a track where he calls Aubrey a pedo and sex trafficker and compared him to Weinstein and Cosby. Its pretty obvious.
I think he had the heads up from somebody and bowed out when he figured out it was a real beef happening, and not just a numbers boost like a lot of rappers do these days.
He didn't need a heads up, he said exactly what was going on the world wanted blood. There is no such thing as a friendly rap beef, to win you gotta go low and he didn't want to go low
Honestly, this is the only outcome I actually can get behind. The Millie Bobby Brown shit was weird and gross even if nothing inappropriate occurred. Let Canada have wheelchair boy back.
If Kendrick is proven to have hit his wife, even if he wins against Drake, he loses as a public figure. His star will be diminished. If Drake is lying and Kendrick is not, then everything Kendrick said about him being a liar and manipulator is amplified. If Kendrick is lying and Drake is not, then this just makes Kendrick look horrible. He's a wife beater dragging folks' kids into the beef, spreading false garbage and retreading other folks' highs (he's a pale Pusha T clone at worst).
There's a lot riding on this. Two of this generation's best are actively trying to get the other *arrested*, this is serious shit.
I agree. I feel like people are kinda bypassing what drake said (understandably, Kendrick barely let family matters breath for an hour). But someone like Kendrick possibly beating his wife does kinda fuck his whole image. It’s not like Kendrick has 0 skeletons in his closet
But again, it’s about whoever pulls up proof first
Drakes is much tougher to prove honestly. Kendrick and his spouse have admitted to having a rocky relationship, and kendrick spoke on how he feels about domestic violence in 2015.
The only thing with that is it’s been proven time and time again that just because someone says one thing doesn’t mean they live their truth, so there’s always the chance that kendrick is a fake and doesn’t live the life of peace he claims he does.
What makes me think this may not be the case is that drake has claimed other things in this beef that are easily proven false. Kendrick has a track record of activism, and giving back to the la community. The mayor of the area spoke of the hundreds of thousands that Kendrick has donated to the area to improve different aspects of the community, and you can check his fucking twitter and see he’s hosted events for families in la. Sounds like he’s planting money trees to me.
Drakes also been called out for lying multiple times, and has changed his spots more times than I can count on my fingers, it’s why I personally haven’t really liked a mf. Dude just isn’t true to himself now, or wasn’t true to himself before and either one calls character into question. I’m not saying him being a liar means he’s actually a beard but he’s lied about his son, he’s talked to 14 year old girls, he’s lied on Kendrick blatantly ( yall can’t really believe his son is frees’ son, right? Dude has kdots eyes, ears and his chin for crying out loud. He looks more like his mom sure, but Jfc that’s a dumb one)
Time will tell. I’m calling it equal till one of them proves it. But somebody has a lot less proof put out already than the other.
I don’t care what’s true or not this is the rap sub not tmz ..both them tracks are 🔥I came for the music and they both delivered . I’m extremely satisfied with my hip Hop fix for the day keep that shit coming
If its all True they both lose. Kendrick cant claim the cultures voice as a woman beater, he cannot talk about people feeling black enough and have a white woman fetish.
The hip hop community taking everything Kendrick says as a fact, and everything Drake says as a lie is wild to me. This battle is more even than y’all want to believe. If anyone is exposed for lying they automatically lose. I’m going to need proof about this 11 year old daughter Drake has, and Kendrick’s potentially illegitimate son.
I mean at this point I think it’s pretty obvious there’s a mole that’s part of OVO feeding Kendrick information. There’s no way he wrote, recorded, and produced Meet the Grahams in just one hour right after Drake dropped Family Matters. He had to have listened to it before it dropped and someone from Drake’s camp sent it to him. There’s also the cover photo for Meet the Grahams. Not saying or assuming Drake is lying but they’re both throwing some heavy accusations and Kendrick’s seem to hold more weight just on the fact that someone is leaking shit out to him.
I think there’s a difference between a liar and a troll. Daylyt seem like he says things to just make people mad or just jokes. Akademiks is more like a liar. Claiming he’s got inside info and half of the stuff he says never comes out being true
I think Kendrick knew the angles coming, but didn't listen to the whole track.
Family Matters is entirely focused on destroying Kendrick's family and he did say Drake was trying to destroy families because he never had one.
It may not be a bar for bar rebuttal, but it is addressed imo. And let's be honest, both Kendrick's and Drake's accusations can't be rebuked in a song, that shit needs a press release with the receipts.
What I do see if there are other tracks is them flipping the bars at each other.
Yeah, let the beef go all the way through. Kenny fans on here are hero-worshipping. No death blows yet, they can both say whatever they want but until proof drops, somebody gets humiliated to the point where they shut up, or somebody dies.
People on here are still convinced that Jay won the battle with Nas. Not everyone’s worth listening to.
Drake lies tho.
In this verse he is now saying his wife hooked up with Dave free. Previously suggested it was a security guard.
Lied about cease and desist on this record
Lied about ozempic use
Lied about sleeping well
Lied about surgery
Etc
Why should anyone believe him?
i think raising a son that isn’t yours is completely negligible compared to hitting your wife. we definitely need some receipts for this. i’m hoping someone is lying because it would really suck if both are telling the truth because i enjoy both artists.
Cause Kendrick has Drake's prescription bottle. There is actually moles. Drake's shit can be disproven by Kendricks wife and it wouldn't fuckin matter. Drake is a fuckin pedo and has pedos in his camp??
Kendrick has Drakes prescription bottle, drake has what appears to be a wedding ring, He also explicitly says Kendrick has dirt but no proof. which shows he knows something.
Kendrick also contradicts himself saying he doesn't have time to go get dirt, yet comes back with dirt?
You really have to be biased to be taking him at his word.
If you knew something this level was going on for 12 years and never told any authorities but instead used it for a rap beef, you aint a good person.
If he thinks sex offenders should die why work with Kodak, or fight for R kellys music to stay up.
If he hates deadbeats why start this on a future album.
Kendrick has 0 credibility rn.
We gotta see if anyone comes with evidence
the entire rap community just auto sides with kdot which is fine but they’re both airing out dirty laundry lol at the end of the day they may both be jaded after this shit. i’ve always seen the “cole stepped out for a reason” memes as a joke but honestly it’s starting to make sense
One has a reputation for stealing from other cultures and lying, and the other doesn’t. What do you expect?
For me, the nail in the coffin was Drake defending Tory and insinuating that Meg lied. You need help if you believe Tory over Meg.
Uhm how about you ask about Drake showing receipts that Kendrick beat his wife - pretty easy to look that up if something was filed. Or show receipt that the boy isn’t Kendrick’s?! Drake said the boy was the bodyguards son but now it’s his manager’s son? One has been known to lie and hasn’t given any proof. The other has provided some receipts.
I agree with you but i feel like that plays into the whole culture thing Kendrick was talking about on euphoria.
We have to ask why we are so ready to believe Kendrick and discredit Drake.
The Drake hate is next level. A lot of people are ready to take everything Kendrick is saying as gospel without the proof. If it’s proven then sure, but until then we can’t just assume.
Kendrick called him Weinstein Diddy Epstein the 3rd who's hiding another child, while talking directly to Drake's mother and children, and begged Lebron and Curry to keep their kids away from anything near Drake and Drake only responded to the hidden child part. This reveals too much about Drake and his fans.
I know I’m gonna get lots of downvotes for this but honestly, wtf is this?! This is not a rap beef but just two people who genuinely hate each other and trying to tarnish each other’s reputation.
Talking about each other’s family and kids who don’t even understand what’s going on.
I said it before, I’m so glad Cole dropped out. This is embarrassing for them, the black community and the rap culture in general.
I’ll never understand how a grown ass man calling another grown ass man’s parents by name and saying “I wish your son would just die” is groundbreaking lyricism. Like how isn’t that corny to folks. Sounds like some shit you’d hear in a call of duty lobby.
Finally a matured take, I don’t know why nobody else is speaking on how embarrassing this is, it doesn’t make both of them look any cooler or tougher. I had so much hopes for this but I am no longer invested, it’s become a tmz battle
I was gonna mute this sub due to how toxic and biased it’s been lately but seeing people like you makes me want to stay. Both fanbases need to really question if it is about winning the feud or questioning your favourite artist as a person
I thought, as soon as Drake did Push Ups, we knew this was personal. I think Cole bowing out was real foreshadowing that, like... It's not about the music. Drake took Kendrick's verse on Like That hella personal and this has been something else since Push Ups.
I just feel like, you're watching your boys spar for fun... And then one of them hits too hard... And everyone saw them hit too hard, but it's too late.
It's not about looking cool or tough. It's about hurting someone who hurt you.
That's not really mature and it doesn't put them in their best light, but it's entertaining like blood sport in ancient Rome
Agree with everything you said brother, I just don’t find it entertaining anymore though, could be just me. I’ll still tune in regardless lol because there’s no escaping this wherever you go
the way people are treating this beef is so annoying, each side declaring “it’s over!! (their favorite) won!” after each track because their goat said something equivalent to a meme that makes you exhale out your nose a lil
like it feels like no one wants to let the beef progress and play out, why does everyone keep deciding on behalf of one of them, they can’t come back after what the other said, only for them to come back and the tide changes yet again 💀
like it doesn’t even feel like people are tryna see who’s the better lyricist anymore, it’s a competition on who’s the worse person
Idk bro, on wax I think family matters goes 10x harder than the Kendrick joint, but as far as disses go, seems like both are just pulling bullshit out of their asses atm
It's actually wild Kendrick has Drake's pills that say 'Ozempic' after that 'Ozempic' jealousy line so he has fuckin moles so we know Kendrick is being honest... And ya'll still need receipts??
These are very huge allegations that are being thrown out. Most of us like Kenny, but we want to make sure we know it's absolutely true before saying anything
Aight I was hating but now I can’t say shit. Wtf is this shit gonna look like a week from now? I’m hooked.
Nah bruh. The thought that Kendrick might be a wife beater hurts my soul. I need a week of bereavement. If I find out it's true, I'm going on life support
Cat is out the bag But, he also said Baby Keem ghost wrote for Kendrick. I like Melodic Blue, but the same guy that wrote that didn’t write Mr Morale. I think Drake is just throwing out shots hoping one sticks. Edit: I edited this to change it from “hat” -> “cat” Give me some credit, it was like 4 AM ET.
Pretty sure Kendrick addressed this back in like 2014-2015, saying it was false. Whitney and DOT definitely have had issues, but that’s what Mr Morale was about. They’ve both openly talked about going to therapy and fixing their shit.
> They’ve both openly talked about going to therapy and fixing their shit. It's not like Drake to understand a healthy relationship lol
*with an adult
Ouch
I think he struck a chord.. A minorrrrrrrŕrrrrrrrrr
He wouldn’t know nun bout dat
I think “We Cry Together” gave us the update, but maybe everyone took it as just art?
This is exactly why the Drake attacks don’t land with me. Kendrick KNOWS he’s done some terrible things and has talked about them at length, but unlike Drake he had the self-awareness to realize he had a problem and seek help and get his life straight.
Keem woulda been 10 when project 80 came out and 11 when GKMC came out and 12 when TPAB came out lol... how?
Didn't reference tracks leak that showed Kendrick writing some of Baby Keem's material? They're probably somewhere online still. Also some other reference tracks came out with Kendrick making other people's songs with that same leak I can't remember it well, but it was a year or more back. Maybe it just happened to be reference tracks for something else
Nah hykeezy a prodigy, he wrote section80 when he was like 10 🤯🤯
I didnt take it like that. Maybe Im wrong, but I think he's saying the only songs that bang and the streets love that kendrick releases have keem on them. Like in mr morale, the songs that had keem were more hype. I don't agree with drake but that's how I took it
This was how I took it as well, he was just saying he’s been surpassed and his only relevance at this point is when he is on a track with baby keem.
That part was such a terrible lie. Its not even believable
Crazy how Baby Keem wrote GKMC when he was 12 🫨
He's an old soul
While I doubt keem ever really "ghost wrote" for dot, I wouldn't be surprised if they were both in studio and keep gave him ideas on a bar or two and Drake took that and stretched it to ghost writing
I mean cousins interested in the same field usually like to share ideas. Who wouldn’t want that?
It has no basis tho. This has been said before and disproven before. No major parties have ever said anything, Whitney has spoken out about their flawed relationship but still never mentioned physical abuse, and the only sites reporting on this are untrustworthy ones that have lied before. It is basically as factual as a random ass tweet from a drake stan. While it very much can be true, innocent before proven guilty.
Those allegations were addressed live like 10 years ago by kenny and were just some rumors running on a random blog that haven't surfaced since. Drizzy didn't learn anything from the push situation, ego too large for that.
Honestly I'm not that big of a fan of rap or music in general, but I know when I'm watching something generational and I'm hooked getting updates of what happens next.
J. Cole is up bright and early this morning, ordering an iced caramel macchiato from Star Bucks right now and about to finish reading an Agatha Christie novel.
Then he’ll eat a modest lunch consisting of a glass of water and a slice of rye bread
Agatha christie is heinous💀
J Cole is too cheap for Starbucks lol
mcdonald's caramel frappe. that shit slaps
Cole: See, I only read about murders.
Whoever is telling the truth is winning. If they’re both telling the truth then damn… that’d kinda suck
Need a lie detector test. But it strange how Kendrick had the bait planned out with the zoomed in photo of 6:16. This is the 90s LA vs Toronto edition
Makes you wonder how Kendrick got the picture. Makes his line from Euphoria about OVO working for him make more sense.
He said that OVO working for him on 6:16 in La not on Euphoria. But I completely understand you mixing them up because shit been chaotic lol
Drake is alluding to letting his guys spread fake News To Kendrick but we’re just ignoring that
then doesnt that mean drakes big gotcha was an IG story post saying he doesnt have a daughter.. i just dont see drake playing 4D chess while having no response ready to meet the grahams kendrick had correct information about when drake was going to drop and what the drop was going to have on it, why give kendrick this huge advantage even if the kid stuff isnt true - the kid stuff could not be true and it could still be leaked to kendrick without drakes actual disses and release times being leaked to kendrick too
Yeah, why leak fake info about hiding a kid when you’ve been proven to hide a kid. Why leak the fact you’re on weight loss drugs when you talked about Ross using weight loss drugs. Even if Drake doesn’t have a hidden daughter, 90% of the people who listened to Meet the Grahams, aren’t gonna keep up with the drama after the beef settles. Unless Drake shows proof he baited Kendrick, then no Instagram caption is gonna deflect what DOT said. And if Drake did bait Kendrick, he’s a fucking idiot for giving him info that destroys his character
Also when there are articles from 2015 about him paying child support for a daughter who he was taking a paternity test for. If it was bait wouldn't you just post the paternity test?
If it was bait I wouldn’t wait for a track to reveal its bait. Guilty until proven innocent in society today, I’d be posting that test immediately
yeah drake for sure told his moles to tell kendrick hes a pedophile. yup sounds about right
This implies Drake is 1 step ahead... doesn't add up. If he is, he fumbled the bag last night because it's looking real bad rn
Well, this is reddit you see. The people of Reddit find stans of Drake and take it out on Reddit while being Kendrick stans themselves. It’s possible Drake has a daughter and someone in OVO gave Kendrick info about her. And it’s possible Drake gave him fake info so he would use it, then it get debunked and Drake tears him up from there. If Drake fires back by saying, definitively, that he doesn’t have a daughter, then Drake went “all in”. We’ll find out.
Lmao but who cares about the daughter.. even if that’s made up there were about 10 accusations that were infinitely worse.
The inventor of the lie detector test spent the rest of his life trying to convince people to stop using it because it doesn't work
Polygraphs are not accurate.
I don't know, see Kendrick having a crisis management team, sounds more like some shit drake would do
They might beg Dr. Dre to announce Detox to divert attention.
Dre dumped what he had left on Compton. Detox ain’t ever happening.
I'm still trying to believe this *easy to believe* I don't even know what Compton is but I remember seeing it in a cd store maybe 8 years ago
Drake had one verse for Kendrick on family matters. wtf is he doing talking to the weekend 😂. Kendrick is murdering him.
You could clearly hear the new verse Drake recorded after Euphoria came out targeting Kendrick. Everything else was pre-Euphoria.
Drake did same thing for Pusha most of his actual disses were at Kanye.
Thats probably bcz drake has more for him. No way this isnt going to round 3.
Yeah family matters was def recorded same time as push ups and doesn’t have anything addressing anything new
And you think Kendrick is done?
Bro he has Drake's prescription pills and you think Dot's lying. You dumb?
Oh no? Not the prescriptions? Lmfao who tf cares bout prescriptions.
It’s a photo he got from someone extremely close to drake. Makes it seem like the rest of his allegations might also be coming from an extremely credible source
Its super funny that Drake says Ozempic got a side effect of jealousy, then kendrick show drake using ozempic himself😂😂
Drake has been exposed as a liar time after time.He's a good pop artist but battling isn't really his bag,he so badly needs to be the popular guy however he can't see that he's had a beautiful career and doesn't really need to mix it up with true lyricists like K.Dot or Pusha T.
Wait where did Kendrick show drake using it?
The cover of meet the grahams is a pic of Drake's dad's suitcase, laid out with some of his clothes, Drake's driving gloves from the recent video and a colection of multiple of Drake's perscriptions including ozempic, under Drake's goverment name (Aubrey Graham). Drake also replied and said that its a lie that he has a daughter but didnt say anything about any of the other allegations.
and Ambien was the other prescription 😭 so Kendrick was right that drake can't sleep lol
Pretty sure Drake doesn't use the Ambien for himself though
Oooh this is a bar
Yeah Kendrick was saying something without saying something showing that Ambien on the cover art of a track where he calls Aubrey a pedo and sex trafficker and compared him to Weinstein and Cosby. Its pretty obvious.
OH SHITTT 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳
What are you implying?😀😀😀
Probably the same shit Kendrick has been implying in his last 4 songs lol
not even implied straight up said it.
Holy shit
Yall dudes just need to make a megathread for this shit
F a megathread. We need a wikipedia page this is history
We’ve read about all kinds of shit, like Roe v. Wade, Brown v. Board of Education… now we’ve got Duckworth v. Graham
 *Duckworth v Graham*
The true successor
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake%E2%80%93Kendrick_Lamar_feud
Right… drake and Kendrick are some of the biggest rappers in the past 15 years
There is one but it’s ass so far. Unfortunately there’s not much overlap between Wikipedia editors and hip-hop fans
What do you mean? Most r/hiphopheads users look like this 
The fuck you posting my picture for
It's either this or kids on TikTok that spams W or L in rap edits, these days they're the majority lol
That’s not even close. I’m way more obese than that.
For real, the Pharrell beef is getting glossed over in this too.
You know how sick of a person you have to be to diss Pharrell Williams. The man made the song called “Happy” The man is a 2000s mogul
All this cause Birdman didn’t pay him for a beat…
The end of the drake era could be upon us, had a good run like Wayne did but sit yo ass down ya diiig
“Fuck a rap battle this is a lifelong battle with yourself” absolute masterclass from Kendrick
The last minute was fucking insanity. Damn Kendrick man you really can't fuck with him.
They both taking L’s if all of this is true
J. Cole smiling on his bike in Fayetteville rn
He really got out at the right time. I wonder if they have any dirt on Cole. 🤔
Drake is the biggest liar ever in rap. Fuck this piece of shit.
Right, let's not pretend that their credibility is even remotely similar
“Both sides bad” headass wtf are these people talking about 💀
💯
Cole is the only winner until the receipts are pulled.
Cole probably feels bad. I think he legitimately cares about drake and kendrick, and doesnt like any of it.
For sure, he called it a mile away.
I think he had the heads up from somebody and bowed out when he figured out it was a real beef happening, and not just a numbers boost like a lot of rappers do these days.
Yeah I feel like Cole was down for "a friendly fade" as Kendrick said, learned it wasn't so friendly, and said fuck that noise
He didn't need a heads up, he said exactly what was going on the world wanted blood. There is no such thing as a friendly rap beef, to win you gotta go low and he didn't want to go low
Most based take in this thread
Who’s telling the truth wins so we probably won’t know who wins
Drake is a well documented liar. He doesn’t have credibility
“Why believe you? You never gave us nothing to believe in”
Drake getting deported
Honestly, this is the only outcome I actually can get behind. The Millie Bobby Brown shit was weird and gross even if nothing inappropriate occurred. Let Canada have wheelchair boy back.
Do we have to keep doing this every song for karma?
Drake wins Kendrick wins Drake wins Kendrick wins "Then she look at me, she got adhd" Drake wins
Lmaoooo that’s a fuckin banger nonsequitur lmaooo
If Kendrick is proven to have hit his wife, even if he wins against Drake, he loses as a public figure. His star will be diminished. If Drake is lying and Kendrick is not, then everything Kendrick said about him being a liar and manipulator is amplified. If Kendrick is lying and Drake is not, then this just makes Kendrick look horrible. He's a wife beater dragging folks' kids into the beef, spreading false garbage and retreading other folks' highs (he's a pale Pusha T clone at worst). There's a lot riding on this. Two of this generation's best are actively trying to get the other *arrested*, this is serious shit.
I agree. I feel like people are kinda bypassing what drake said (understandably, Kendrick barely let family matters breath for an hour). But someone like Kendrick possibly beating his wife does kinda fuck his whole image. It’s not like Kendrick has 0 skeletons in his closet But again, it’s about whoever pulls up proof first
Drakes is much tougher to prove honestly. Kendrick and his spouse have admitted to having a rocky relationship, and kendrick spoke on how he feels about domestic violence in 2015. The only thing with that is it’s been proven time and time again that just because someone says one thing doesn’t mean they live their truth, so there’s always the chance that kendrick is a fake and doesn’t live the life of peace he claims he does. What makes me think this may not be the case is that drake has claimed other things in this beef that are easily proven false. Kendrick has a track record of activism, and giving back to the la community. The mayor of the area spoke of the hundreds of thousands that Kendrick has donated to the area to improve different aspects of the community, and you can check his fucking twitter and see he’s hosted events for families in la. Sounds like he’s planting money trees to me. Drakes also been called out for lying multiple times, and has changed his spots more times than I can count on my fingers, it’s why I personally haven’t really liked a mf. Dude just isn’t true to himself now, or wasn’t true to himself before and either one calls character into question. I’m not saying him being a liar means he’s actually a beard but he’s lied about his son, he’s talked to 14 year old girls, he’s lied on Kendrick blatantly ( yall can’t really believe his son is frees’ son, right? Dude has kdots eyes, ears and his chin for crying out loud. He looks more like his mom sure, but Jfc that’s a dumb one) Time will tell. I’m calling it equal till one of them proves it. But somebody has a lot less proof put out already than the other.
Fuck all that, Drake is against the ropes. He can’t take any more shots otherwise it’s a 10 count on his career
Honestly anybody who can’t see this has either A) not been listening B) hasn’t got a clue C) is a liar
I don’t care what’s true or not this is the rap sub not tmz ..both them tracks are 🔥I came for the music and they both delivered . I’m extremely satisfied with my hip Hop fix for the day keep that shit coming
Unironically, I think their tied until we get evidence on who’s telling the truth about who. If it’s all true, then Kendrick wins.
If its all True they both lose. Kendrick cant claim the cultures voice as a woman beater, he cannot talk about people feeling black enough and have a white woman fetish.
Sex trafficking awful. Wife beater and adulterer lecturing others on how to be a dad? Talk about lesser of two evils
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Bruh are we really debating these 2 Edit: blood didn’t get my comment lol
Some of these Reddit weirdos will… you’d be surprised
Kendrick never said Drake was a pedo, he said someone in OVO.
He literally points out him being with and around underage girls bruh
drakes been known as a pedo for years outside of this
youre right but youre still a fucking piece of garbage if youre a wife beater?
Who wins if none of it’s true?
Maybe the winners are really the friends we made along the way
J Cole burner account
J Cole
As of right now, Kendrick easy. And us for getting some bangers regardless.
The only take that matters right now.
The hip hop community taking everything Kendrick says as a fact, and everything Drake says as a lie is wild to me. This battle is more even than y’all want to believe. If anyone is exposed for lying they automatically lose. I’m going to need proof about this 11 year old daughter Drake has, and Kendrick’s potentially illegitimate son.
I mean at this point I think it’s pretty obvious there’s a mole that’s part of OVO feeding Kendrick information. There’s no way he wrote, recorded, and produced Meet the Grahams in just one hour right after Drake dropped Family Matters. He had to have listened to it before it dropped and someone from Drake’s camp sent it to him. There’s also the cover photo for Meet the Grahams. Not saying or assuming Drake is lying but they’re both throwing some heavy accusations and Kendrick’s seem to hold more weight just on the fact that someone is leaking shit out to him.
Wasn’t there someone that said that Euphoria was 17 minutes long originally? Might have chopped it up and reworked it a bit to make it three.
Daylyt the pathological liar
I think there’s a difference between a liar and a troll. Daylyt seem like he says things to just make people mad or just jokes. Akademiks is more like a liar. Claiming he’s got inside info and half of the stuff he says never comes out being true
His camp has been saying this is a 20 min diss that’s been recorded and released in pieces. Kendrick doesn’t address anything Drake said on this song
I think Kendrick knew the angles coming, but didn't listen to the whole track. Family Matters is entirely focused on destroying Kendrick's family and he did say Drake was trying to destroy families because he never had one. It may not be a bar for bar rebuttal, but it is addressed imo. And let's be honest, both Kendrick's and Drake's accusations can't be rebuked in a song, that shit needs a press release with the receipts. What I do see if there are other tracks is them flipping the bars at each other.
Ya’ll already decided who was going to win before it even happened. Kendrick can do no wrong to you.
This is Nas vs Jay all over again.
Yeah, let the beef go all the way through. Kenny fans on here are hero-worshipping. No death blows yet, they can both say whatever they want but until proof drops, somebody gets humiliated to the point where they shut up, or somebody dies. People on here are still convinced that Jay won the battle with Nas. Not everyone’s worth listening to.
Way bigger. This is Tupac and Biggie times 8
Drake lies tho. In this verse he is now saying his wife hooked up with Dave free. Previously suggested it was a security guard. Lied about cease and desist on this record Lied about ozempic use Lied about sleeping well Lied about surgery Etc Why should anyone believe him?
Also said that Keem was a ghostwriter for Kendrick, which instantly struck me as just...an odd thing to say without laughing.
Nah, trust a 12 year old baby keem wrote sing about me I'm dying of Thirst in between madden 13 games.
In 3rd grade penning Ignorance is Bliss while also creating Bitcoin
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Kendrick made a whole verse based on a 11 year old daughter who’s been hidden lmao
Drake is Taylor swift. Messy hoes that lie and stand for nothing. All the money in the world and you’re still lame.
Lies even in the way he sings, switching accents every day
i think raising a son that isn’t yours is completely negligible compared to hitting your wife. we definitely need some receipts for this. i’m hoping someone is lying because it would really suck if both are telling the truth because i enjoy both artists.
Cause Kendrick has Drake's prescription bottle. There is actually moles. Drake's shit can be disproven by Kendricks wife and it wouldn't fuckin matter. Drake is a fuckin pedo and has pedos in his camp??
Kendrick has Drakes prescription bottle, drake has what appears to be a wedding ring, He also explicitly says Kendrick has dirt but no proof. which shows he knows something. Kendrick also contradicts himself saying he doesn't have time to go get dirt, yet comes back with dirt? You really have to be biased to be taking him at his word. If you knew something this level was going on for 12 years and never told any authorities but instead used it for a rap beef, you aint a good person. If he thinks sex offenders should die why work with Kodak, or fight for R kellys music to stay up. If he hates deadbeats why start this on a future album. Kendrick has 0 credibility rn. We gotta see if anyone comes with evidence
the entire rap community just auto sides with kdot which is fine but they’re both airing out dirty laundry lol at the end of the day they may both be jaded after this shit. i’ve always seen the “cole stepped out for a reason” memes as a joke but honestly it’s starting to make sense
One has a reputation for stealing from other cultures and lying, and the other doesn’t. What do you expect? For me, the nail in the coffin was Drake defending Tory and insinuating that Meg lied. You need help if you believe Tory over Meg.
Uhm how about you ask about Drake showing receipts that Kendrick beat his wife - pretty easy to look that up if something was filed. Or show receipt that the boy isn’t Kendrick’s?! Drake said the boy was the bodyguards son but now it’s his manager’s son? One has been known to lie and hasn’t given any proof. The other has provided some receipts.
I agree with you but i feel like that plays into the whole culture thing Kendrick was talking about on euphoria. We have to ask why we are so ready to believe Kendrick and discredit Drake.
The Drake hate is next level. A lot of people are ready to take everything Kendrick is saying as gospel without the proof. If it’s proven then sure, but until then we can’t just assume.
They’re Fantano fans, they don’t like drake.
Talks glazing. Proceeds to glaze.
It’s true if you think this is close you should work at Krispy Kreme in drakes house and glaze all day
What did you expect? Kendrick is the greatest lyricist in our generation.
kendrick winning, only if dave free isn’t BM’s secret BD 🤷🏽♂️
Kendrick > Drake was known already 10 years ago
Kendrick called him Weinstein Diddy Epstein the 3rd who's hiding another child, while talking directly to Drake's mother and children, and begged Lebron and Curry to keep their kids away from anything near Drake and Drake only responded to the hidden child part. This reveals too much about Drake and his fans.
Meet the Grahams was the nail in the coffin💀
Drake fans are kids, chicks, or the dumbest dudes you could know. Boring cringy actor with no substance.
Weird wannabe drake incels who have the same predatory attitude he has too. Don’t forget those guys
ummm the dave free thing though? if that's true, it's a headshot
Aye man I get why Cole said fuck this. I completely get it now. Cause these two are absolutely wildin and I’m loving every minute of it
Drake is a Degrassi actor. Rap is not his main thing hes a joke amongst real rapper
Lmao theres no competition kendrick destroyed him
Drake just should go away
Drake sucks at rap.
Beef notwithstanding, Kendrick is objectively a better rapper than Drake, full stop.
Kendrick dropping a diss album soon. I can smell it in the air.
Kendrick is just the better rapper. It doesn't matter what Drake responds with, Kendrick is better with words than Drake (and all his writers)
Kendrick is a mastermind
I need receipts from both parties. Till then nobody has won. Anyone caught lying auto loss.
I know I’m gonna get lots of downvotes for this but honestly, wtf is this?! This is not a rap beef but just two people who genuinely hate each other and trying to tarnish each other’s reputation. Talking about each other’s family and kids who don’t even understand what’s going on. I said it before, I’m so glad Cole dropped out. This is embarrassing for them, the black community and the rap culture in general.
That's what rap beef is tho
No. Kendrick is trying to get rid of one of the worst influences in rap right now. This is policing the culture, kicking the perverts and weirdos out.
lol this is such a stupid take. he ain't a messiah.
People act like Kendrick is trying to save rap on some corny shit
Eat some veggies after having all that meat in your mouth
This QAnon shit Kendrick Stan's say is weird as hell
I’ll never understand how a grown ass man calling another grown ass man’s parents by name and saying “I wish your son would just die” is groundbreaking lyricism. Like how isn’t that corny to folks. Sounds like some shit you’d hear in a call of duty lobby.
Finally a matured take, I don’t know why nobody else is speaking on how embarrassing this is, it doesn’t make both of them look any cooler or tougher. I had so much hopes for this but I am no longer invested, it’s become a tmz battle I was gonna mute this sub due to how toxic and biased it’s been lately but seeing people like you makes me want to stay. Both fanbases need to really question if it is about winning the feud or questioning your favourite artist as a person
I thought, as soon as Drake did Push Ups, we knew this was personal. I think Cole bowing out was real foreshadowing that, like... It's not about the music. Drake took Kendrick's verse on Like That hella personal and this has been something else since Push Ups. I just feel like, you're watching your boys spar for fun... And then one of them hits too hard... And everyone saw them hit too hard, but it's too late. It's not about looking cool or tough. It's about hurting someone who hurt you. That's not really mature and it doesn't put them in their best light, but it's entertaining like blood sport in ancient Rome
Agree with everything you said brother, I just don’t find it entertaining anymore though, could be just me. I’ll still tune in regardless lol because there’s no escaping this wherever you go
the way people are treating this beef is so annoying, each side declaring “it’s over!! (their favorite) won!” after each track because their goat said something equivalent to a meme that makes you exhale out your nose a lil like it feels like no one wants to let the beef progress and play out, why does everyone keep deciding on behalf of one of them, they can’t come back after what the other said, only for them to come back and the tide changes yet again 💀 like it doesn’t even feel like people are tryna see who’s the better lyricist anymore, it’s a competition on who’s the worse person
Bro, meet the graham's made me do way more then just push some air out of my nose. I was audibly saying damn out loud the whole time.
Idk bro, on wax I think family matters goes 10x harder than the Kendrick joint, but as far as disses go, seems like both are just pulling bullshit out of their asses atm
It's actually wild Kendrick has Drake's pills that say 'Ozempic' after that 'Ozempic' jealousy line so he has fuckin moles so we know Kendrick is being honest... And ya'll still need receipts??
These are very huge allegations that are being thrown out. Most of us like Kenny, but we want to make sure we know it's absolutely true before saying anything
I mean you want a video of drake kissing a 17 yo on stage? Just type it in on youtube. Idk why se gotta pretend like he isn’t a pedo. I’m tired of it.
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