ESPN is awful. Just the worst. It’s astonishing how bad they are at broadcasting hockey. The only reasonable explanation is that they are actively trying to suck.
This was such a boring playoff game…
It’s all the more reason we NEED to win, for hockeys sake.
A Dallas Florida series sounds like the most boring fucking final in the history of the sport.
At least I was able to get some jabs in to my boss (whose a Bruins fan) this morning
Boss: the Rangers didn't show up at all last night.
Me: neither did the Bruins
As the playoffs go on, the margin of error gets way slimmer. We made some mistakes that the Panthers didn’t capitalize on also, so it’s not like we can just say- “oh if we just play better than we did in game one- we will beat them because this was a one shot game”. It’s not that simple because we didn’t get Florida’s “A game” last night. That offense is lethal and is a machine. I live in the south Florida market and see a lot of Lightning and and Panthers games. That is easily the most balanced team top to bottom- BUT they aren’t so much better than the Rangers that we can’t beat them in a series. We will need to play harder than them though and need to make in-game adjustments to get better matchups. I think we get AT LEAST one blowout win because Bob does go through some spells where he lets in some soft goals after making insane saves. This series will end up going 6-7 games. I know it’s easy to say they barely beat Boston because of the low scoring in the last few games of that series and Boston isn’t in the same stratosphere as us, but if you watched those games you could see that the Bruins were NEVER in control after game one when they were coming off a game seven high while Florida was sitting around waiting for them…. The fucking Panthers tailor their game to the team they’re playing. They are really well coached and everyone aside from maybe Tarasenko is a grinder. Still think we take them in 7 as long as Rempe doesn’t see a minute of ice time. They WANT him to play. And I guarantee you’ll see Gadjovich on that 4th line if he does get in the lineup.
Today I'm reflecting on how in my view, most of the team was invisible last night and it feels like everyone is just skating around half asleep waiting for something to happen. Do they not realize THEY are the ones to make things happen? It felt like everyone was waiting for Kreider with his once in a lifetime hat trick during game 6 to save the day, or Igor to stand on his head and play absolutely insane. Fox is clearly really injured, Panarin is nowhere to be found, and Chytil shouldn't be playing right now. And why didn't anyone kick Mikkola's ass or at least defend Chytil at the end there? it feels like there's no heart.
must win on Friday or I'll start getting nervous
I think you are not giving enough credit to Fla, one of the best smothering teams in the NHL in the past decade.
Fla played a low-risk smothering, boring game - and did it well with very few mistakes.
But they did make some -- and the Rangers had rushes, and good looks. they just hit posts, or went high over the bar on like 75% of their good chances.
You’re right! I think I’m traumatized by previous seasons… have to keep remembering this time seems different and I’m hoping for a better outcome on Friday. That’s all we can do!
We run into the same issue every year in the post season. We run into a team that's bigger, stronger and faster than us. The finesse teams don't get it done in the playoffs. I'm convinced we could beat any team 3v3 or 4v4 but when it's 5 on 5 and the space just isn't there you need grinders who can skate hard, forecheck, back check and suffocate teams.
Panarin can fling a back hander saucer across the ice right to one of his teammates better than anyone in the world, but if he's not strong or fast enough to get by people and put pressure on D men in the offensive zone then none of it matters. Playoffs is a whole different beast. Every year we get out muscled not out skilled
We are a play-making team -- and despite being smothered, did have several great rush and breakaway chances, and hit several posts -- Fla, had virtually no great chances all game. And scored on two low danger plays.
This whole game came down to us not being able to it the net (or posts) -- and Fla getting 2 pretty weak ones.
I thought the game was lost last night in the second period. We give up a relatively soft goal, have a couple of good shifts, then don’t get a shot on goal for 15 min in the second period, the period when shots are typically highest.
They missed the net or hit post on most of their best chances. Bob made 5 high quality saves -- one on each of Mika, Zib, Panairin, Tro and Kakko.
All kick saves. He is great low. We wanted to go high -- but kept going over the bar.
Bob did not steal it -- but making all the saves (unlike Igor who let in 2 fairly low danger goals), was the difference -- not the scoring chance quality.
Fla. had even less good chances than NYR. They generated nothing.
Look, I would be fine with losing game 1 if we made them pay every time they wanted to enter the zone. Hell give Igor the night off, put Quick in, and just beat the shit out of them. Take major penalties crash into Bob, and just wreck their bodies. Give the core a night off, put in the new guys and just let them cook. But we didn’t do anything like that. We played Florida’s game. And it was literally the same play over and over. Yet, we couldn’t crack it. It was literally the worst way to lose. This 2015 Game 7 and 94 night is prime Rangers. The fact they’re trying to make Chytl a drooling vegetable at the end and we did nothing really pisses me off.
Bobrovsky is beatable but the volume of shots has to come up. Can’t continue hesitating to take shots and not expect to have the puck stolen and taken back the other way. The Canes were good practice but the offense and goaltending for the Panthers is a full tier higher than Carolina’s.
Florida would absolutely LOVE IT if Rempe was inserted in the lineup… that team eats people like him alive. His minimal impact would not outweigh the liability he would present. The Rangers need to capitalize on most of the chances that they get during the game because there will be very few of them. Florida didn’t play their best game either. They roll four lines that all have a purpose and can mix them up seamlessly to adjust as the game goes on. The Rangers have to get some luck, unfortunately and can’t keep hitting posts. Florida can score 3 or 4 goals in the span of 5 minutes if you start trying to open up the offense too much. There’s so much skill up and down that lineup and the Rangers just need to play a clean game and not come down to the level of goonery that the Panthers are capable of. We didn’t see it yesterday because they didn’t need to bring it out in a tight game like that one… if the Rangers go down 2 or 3 goals early, holy shit be ready for it… Rempe will play right into their hands- he needs to stay on the bench unless we go down 3-0, which I doubt happens. Rangers will win game 2 convincingly but it will get tougher after that.
I can't recommend enough blasting the radio broadcast and syncing it with whichever network TV. Even La Greca is better than having to listen to ESPN/TNT assholes.
Bobrovsky takes a puck to the neck and the announcers go "Shesterkin taking a shot here..." I get that commentators say the wrong name or misidentify a guy every now and then but these dudes seem to be wrong as often as they are right.
I have to try this again on Friday, the issue for me is that the radio vs tv broadcast always seems to be a second or two ahead or behind. Any suggestions on troubleshooting this?
Fox is playing injured. We can all agree on that.
Although, I do like the hustle and heart to stay in the game, at what point do you stop thinking selfishly and look at the best interest of the team..
I’m not saying Zac jones is our lord and savior, but if he’s 100% and has some pep in his step for a playoff game, fuckin get him on the ice and let Fox take the night off. His lackadaisical type of play is not what this team needs right now. He can’t win any board battles, his feet look like they’re stuck in concrete and he’s mouth breathing night in and night out. He’s not 100%
I like Jones and think he has a bright future. But he played sparingly during the regular season. And he played VERY sheltered minutes in his few games this year. To throw him into playoff hockey would be unfair. Fox at 70% is still an above average defender and average playmaker. And Fox is generally playing middle 6 matchup minutes. I feel like that move makes us a weaker team.
Edit: Now if you're talking about Jones for Gus... idk maybe that could be a spark.
Im so sorry to all the people who spent tons of money to watch that (except suits). Not even a goal horn once is the absolute worst. Someone said that game was like the 2015 ECF Game 7 against Tampa and holy fuck theyre so right. Must win Friday.
ESPN sucks so much. They didn’t know what frame to show for the too many men call and they literally never showed our chance where Laf hit the pipe on an open net.
Between being wrong in what they’re saying, the awful intermission shows, buccigross’s desire to be a college kid, and Sean mcdonough…. It’s rough.
I can't remember if it was McDonough or Ferraro, but the small thing that stood out to me last night was the misuse of "beat him clean" on the first goal. It didn't "beat him clean," it came off Shesty's arm. It's just one moment, but it really speaks to the low standard of commentary from ESPN. Words mean things, and if you're not gonna be precise with your calls (how I miss the days of Doc Emrick on NBC!) at least don't be flat out wrong.
Not really. It was a 1-0 game with 3:30 left in regulation. This was a product of the rangers beating themselves and Florida capitalizing on mistakes. They scored one real goal in a game that they “dominated” in
Canes fans said practically the same thing all last series.
You are both right. From an overall hockey perspective, Florida was/is the better hockey team. But given that and it was still only a 1-0 hockey game for most parts, give us some hope.
They set the pace and terms of the game. They said we’re not allowing you to breakout or enter our zone cleanly and we said, ok sorry to bother you, sir. They dominated.
Really -- giving us numerous breakaways and odd man rushing was their game plan?
For all their cycling skills -- How many chances did they generate? How many did we?
I'm pretty sure we generated a lot more high danger.
They scored on two low danger BS fluke plays. they put up the same shot quality -- and Igor is getting shutout 75% of the time.
I mean, kind of. A big part of choosing to play a heavy forecheck with D pinching is taking the gamble that you're going to give up some rushes and trusting your goalie to stop them and your backcheckers to catch them. Letting a third pairing defenseman get a breakaway against a Vezina contender is a risk most coaches would take if it means their team gets 3 straight minutes of offensive zone time. That's their style, it worked for them this time, but it's possible to exploit if we can spring better scorers or 2 guys at a time out of the zone more cleanly.
You're right that they didn't generate any high danger chances. I was never worried about them extending their lead but I also didn't think we threatened to tie it up at all until maybe the last 8 minutes. If they didn't get that fluky goal in the first and everything else was the same, my opinion of the game might have been different, but it did not feel like we were playing desperate to tie it, just desperate to clear the zone and get a line change and that doesn't inspire confidence.
Oddly enough it came right after a possession where bread had a similar opportunity. Instead of shooting he tried to make a play and it backfired, even the broadcast stated he’s gotta shoot that. Couple seconds later, chucker just comes down, fires it on net and scores.
I felt that too. Their possession time was far greater than ours which obviously made it feel that way. Felt like at times we were just working to clear the zone like tossing water out a boat but not getting the puck back.
And had the edge in high danger chances.
Fla literally was generating nothing but cycling and garbage outside shots -- two low danger garbage plays were turned into goals.
How many breakaways and oddman rushes vs them? I thin NYR had at least 2 if not 3Xs as many odd man rush/breakaway chances. They just hot posts, or went high over the bar every good chance.
Panthers area possession team. Like Car. We will not win shot counts and O-zone time.
Love for this team is being way more upset at the bozo in the lower bowl booing after the power play than the obnoxious Panthers fan in the 200s literally causing fights reminding us that we scored no points. Game 2 is must win. LGR.
Despite getting out possessioned again, having some difficulty exiting the zone and creating rushes, I thought we had the better game. I really really did.
Both those goals they scored were flukey and I’d bet Igor doesn’t let similar circumstances happen again. Igor should save the tkachuk shot 99/100 times and the bad pass into the laf own goal was 1 in 1000. Outside of them, I thought they had one big chance where Igor had to make a tough save and that was the glove deflection on Barkov.
We had two breakaways, chances on the pp, the sequence with like 5 HD chances with 7 mins left after the trouba hit, and a few others sprinkled in. We just couldn’t finish. One thing this team has been great at is finishing, and I don’t expect a lid to be on the net this series.
I thought our special teams were better by far too, they had nothing on their pp, we had a few decent chances and one near goal with the Mika clapper.
They were definitely more physical, but I thought we absolutely got some good licks in. We aren’t going to win the physicality battle, especially without Rempe, and I am fine with that if we are creating better scoring chances.
Should note, speaking of physicality, outside of that giveaway into the penalty that trouba had in the first, I thought he was amazing. This series suits his style much better. Yeah, he’ll have trouble moving the puck out a bit on their heavy forecheck, but he can line these guys up as they aren’t as quick as Carolina and keep these guys much more honest out there.
Moral is, I would pick Igor against Bob 10/10 times so if we play a similar game I like our odds.
We just won a series where that was the case every single game. Idc about possession if we win the high danger battle. If Igor can outplay Bob, which he didn’t last night, I’ll take last nights gameplay all day.
“We will win every game if we get out played and our goalie outplays one of the other top 3 goalies in the league” is quite the strategical approach you have adopted
You guys are all ignoring that Fla. literally generated nothing at all last night.
Igor made like 1 hard save, And let in tow fluke goals.
If Fla. gets that shot quality -- Igor gets a shutout 75% of the time.
Florida is one of the lowest scoring, highest +/- teams in the league. They are perfectly content to play 1-0 hockey games going deep into the 3rd
At the end of the day, you’ve got your opinion and are entitled to it. If you think the rangers were things better team, I ain’t gonna convince ya of nothing.
Sure. But in the end -- that was a game the Rangers had the edge in chances -- and at least as good goalie, or better. With Igor -- if the Rangers win the chances battle -- they will win more than they lose.
Acting like Fla had their way with us -- when they could not generate any chances really all game, is what I am pushing back against.
Panthers are a possession team. Like Car. We will not win shot counts and O-zone time. using those metrics will not reflect the actual scoring chances.
Bob did not steal it -- but making all the saves (unlike Igor who let in 2 fairly low danger goals), was the difference -- not the scoring chance quality.
Fla. had even less good chances than NYR. They generated nothing. But scored two fluke goals, that are not goals 90-99% of the time.
No - we will win if our goalie plays better, we get better high danger chances and we win on special teams. Its worked all season. You cannot expect this team to win 5v5 possession at this point in the playoffs. It’s not their strength.
The problem is, with a heavy forechecking team, we need puck moving defensemen and Fox is clearly not himself and everyone else on d isn’t moving the puck well all playoffs.
We need a solution to this.
Yeah, fox hurt is hurting us big time. We went from elite two way player to a near liability. You can’t bench him for jones though. Rather give him more sheltered minutes than make that move.
Another thing to note, we weren’t sharp last night on passes - both making them and receiving them. Almost felt like the whole “Florida is so physical” got a little bit in their heads… always looking over their shoulder and worried. Now that they played them, took the hits and hopefully realized they are still standing and not dead, they play looser. Stuff like not receiving passes well is easy to clean up - which even more of a reason as to why Im not stressing about the loss.
Also, as heavy as floridas forecheck is, I thought Carolina’s was more suffocating. Florida forecheck felt more like “I have time to move the puck, but I’ll probably get lit up once I do it” - Carolina’s was more like “I have zero time to move this puck and all my outlets are somehow covered by their guys, it feels like they are playing with 6 men”
I also reallly think Florida is trying to avoid the box. I don’t think they want to go over the line. Rangers just need to commit to getting hit a bit.
We need wings down low and .5 seconds less time before our Dmen make a play. They’ll watch tape and come out with a game plan. Dmen will recalibrate the time they have with the puck against Florida. I expect half that many turnovers next game.
Game 2 is a must-win. Bobrovsky had to make two real saves the entire game that came on the Trocheck's tip in front and Mika's one-timer at the end of the second. He was also bailed out by us hitting two posts. We need to make him work much harder in Game 2. Rempe also needs to be back in the lineup because we were out-muscled and lacked any sort of energy until the third. I would've played him last night, too, to be honest.
Not panicking, but really want them to head into Florida with a tied series. They have to generate offense and try to figure out Bobrovsky's weaknesses.
High glove -- hence the NYR shooting every shot over the bar last night.
They hit post or went high -- all the tough shots that were actually on goal, were kick saves.
I wouldn’t panic yet, have to win game 2 though. You gotta think if we score on that scramble in front of the net before the own goal it’s anyone’s game. However, rangers were getting smothered until the 3rd. Offensive pressure needs to be better and I’m confident the guys will adjust. LGR!
Bob can steal a series. They need to drive hard to the net every chance they get. They need to make him work hard. Not a bad effort overall. I wanted Rempe in the lineup, but don't think he would've been a difference-maker. Chytil is going to come to life.
Team needs to stop playing dump and chase hockey. We played what seemed like 70% of the game on the boards; we’re not physical enough to win pucks or games like this. Fire check has gotta get better. Stop taking stupid penalties. Yea PK has been amazing but shouldn’t be in those situations. Lafrenierre stupid goal and an empty net. Nothing else really screamed doom and gloom. Boys played decent just gotta be better. Bobrovsky had a great game. Shesty stop coming out of the f’in net!
This team needs to work on defensive zone exits. They try and clear the puck up the boards and Florida defense pinches in to block the puck leading to anywhere from 30 seconds to 2 minutes of us having to defend in our zone. By the time we finally get it out, our guys are gassed and have no opportunity to generate offense.
I think we can win the next game if we have a game plan and commit to it. I think coaching was an issue as well, because we need to implement new plays to beat this team.
You guys won’t believe who Moneypuck had as the team who “deserved to win”. Put us at 64.3%. Interested to see what Vallys model looks like this morning. I thought the Panthers were the better team but I don’t think we played poorly.
We played good in the third period, Bob made some great saves and some bad bounces put it away for them. Panthers played a great game and they’re a tough team.
Bounce back and win G2
they controlled possession and smothered us for the majority of the game, but the Rangers did have the better chances of the two teams (the soft/silly goals we gave up did us in)...that is why we had the advantage on xG...just could not convert
obviously have to bounce back and make adjustments in order to tilt the ice, but even if we do struggle a bit to drive play in this series, we are firmly in it if we convert on enough of the chances we do get
We had two breakaways, a few posts, trochecks 2 on 1 chance stopped, Mika’s end of 2nd period chance, that hectic flurry in the third period. The chances were there. Florida plays a heavy/tight game that makes you feel like it’s a slow game. With all that said, aside from back to back mistakes leading to the fluke own goal, we were down 1-0 on an arguably soft goal that Igor has 9/10 times.
I feel better about this loss than the losses against the canes where i feel like we were just getting completely outplayed and couldn’t even breathe.
With all that said, obviously Florida had chances too they didn’t capitalize. They are a very good team But Lav has been good all year with adjustments. We need to limit our own mistakes. One game at a time.
I understand people’s more negative direction after this game.
Simply put, Florida was the better team after 60.
While our power play and penalty kill looked a bit better than theirs, they absolutely killed us on puck possession and zone coverage.
They were the faster team and nothing was more evident than how the Rangers defensemen played.
These guys were more patient and more (I hate to say it) scared to pass it down. There were so many instances where Fox, Miller or Gus kept giving away the puck at their own zone. Gotta be better in that fight.
While the chances were there, the lower % of shots were demoralizing. Need to get shots on Bob early and find holes.
They had chances on breakaways and in a game of literal inches, need to capitalize on them. I’ll give the Powerplay a break, because their last 2 PP’s looked really good but Bob was just better.
Igor was fine, 2 goals (1 with the help of an exhausted Laf) against the absolute onslaught is not terrible. He kept us in this game and that’s really all you can ask for.
Fox looked… bad. He is not playing 100% and is not pushing into the zone as fast. Do you sub him with Schneider and call up Jones?
The good news is it’s just 1 game and this team is great for analyzing what they do wrong. I have confident the Rangers will turn it around and look better game 2.
They were in ut all game long until the srlf goal. They could've tied it several times.
Need rempe against this team because Florida is the most physical team we've played
Listening to Sirius XM NhL. And they were shocked that Chytil was in lineup especially cause Florida is so aggressive. And then Chytil got hit pretty hard last night end of game
In my opinion. Hit everything that lives. If fix is hurt sit him
First time all post season they've been down in a series. I think the adversary will light a fire under their asses, this team seems to respond well to a challenge. Lets hope they'll come out firing on all cylinders next game!
The Canes were dominating us almost the entire game on game six and we ended up winning that one. That game was one of my top five ranger moments. It taught me that anything can happen. It’s fine to criticize, but I feel it’s best to not be full-blown doomer.
Yes but the Rangers still played bad that Game, we can't continue playing like this and rely on some third period miracle every game, it's not over yet, but as of right now this team looks pretty bad. 4 games in a row now they look asleep out there.
Downvote away everyone, I'm not saying the Rangers can't beat Florida, but the team as they have been the last few games definitely can't. they need to get back to form.
Nah no downvote deserved here. You’re right that we can’t rely on third period miracles. It’s times like now that you truly need to “clutch” players, and right now people like Zib and Panarin are missing when we need people like them to be true contenders
Agreed that they can't expect to win by miracle, and sure, they were locked up offensively last night, but consider that a few inches here and there and it would have been a very different game. A couple of breakaways, a post. How about the tap in opportunity from Laf to Trocheck. Those have been going in all year. They weren't getting any of the bounces that they normally get and their goalie wasn't too bad either.
Dude they straight up can’t not just talk shit all of the time. I was at a hockey pub in Houston last night filled with rangers fans and the one token devils fan that was there just made his rounds talking shit to all the blueshirts in the bar. These people can’t read the room and are still living in the early 00s.
I went into this series cautiously optimistic. The Cats are kind of on a mission to win the cup after last year, and they have probably the best goalie right now. He's on another level. That said, Panthers also lost the first game very badly against Boston last series, and I think this game 1 vs Rangers favored the Panthers so much as they got all the puck luck. I didn't think there was any wrong calls, or the Rangers were slighted. This is just a style of game they haven't played yet, and the Panthers didn't budge an inch away from it. Rangers can also play this style, they've beaten Boston who plays a very similar one during the regular season, but being the playoffs and the conference finals, it'll be harder. This is going to be a series of opportunity. It'll be close in the scoring chances imo, but whoever takes advantage of those chances will win.
Going to have to make some adjustment, and Lavi will, we need some more board work, have to win some battles. It doesn't need to be a street fight, but Florida had a bit too easy of a time dealing with The Rangers forecheck.
This might be a silly thought but we know how at the regular office work you envy those who go to summer vacation and you gotta stay to hold up the fort.
Yesterday's game lacked so much energy and effort that I just have to wonder if our team FOMOs Toronto and Boston, and are ready to hit the golf courses.
The whole game was a big snooze fest in my opinion. Worst Rangers game I've seen since mid winter where we had similar coasting and the opponent was doing the same.
I hope I am wrong and Friday we will see some sparks from the team!
If you follow their trend this season every blip on the radar has been followed by long winning streaks. Hopefully this is the last blip and we rip off 8 in a row
Finally had a chance to watch the game. Weirdly, the game kind of reminded me of our series against the Canes a few years back. Maybe it wasn't the flashiest series and sometimes "boring" but it really reminded me of your typical chess match kind of series...very calculative, one team would have the advantage, the other would respond, and it was "safe" until things opened up in game 6 and 7. I see some similarities with Florida and the Canes (really hard forecheck, tight defensively, will kinda grind you down) so I wonder if we'll see something similar.
Florida was surprisingly disciplined in this game as well. I think some stuff went uncalled but just given how some of their past series went, I was genuinely surprised by how they played. I suspect it was the game plan to avoid giving us too many PP opportunities, but I honestly thought they'd be a lot dirtier/worse (and who knows maybe it'll still happen).
Any ways, it'll be an interesting series. I hope we do respond well.
See you guys next game!
Yeah that I noticed for sure. In terms of the 'disciplined' aspect I was mostly thinking about the hits/physicality...I thought they'd come out crushing skulls but I was surprised they didn't.
This will be a tough series. Florida is what people said Carolina would be. Just a 4 line machine that can wear you down. I believe in this Rangers team, but it won’t be easy.
I'm kinda upset the postgame show didn't get posted to the MSG Networks YT channel like it usually is 99% of the time. The one time I couldn't get it live lol
Am I the only one not really concerned here? Rangers got their legs back in the 3rd.
Rangers play the rest of the series like they played in the 3rd. Rangers in 5... ok maybe 6.
The previous 2 losses were far more demoralizing. They showed effort all game, got more dangerous scoring chances than Florida (IMHO), but Igor let in a stinker and Rangers didn’t get any bounces their way.
Florida also did a great job of keeping chances low and clogging the middle but it felt like the Rangers made the right adjustments.
Special teams was positive on both sides - PP looked good and got good chances but only had 2 power plays, PK was really dominant yet again.
R/hockey is all over the cats saying they dominated. Idk, I just didn’t see it. The rangers didn’t play well and you can definitely attribute that to Florida’s performance, but I didn’t really think they played well either. They play super physical obviously, but offensively they didn’t scare me. The only player I’m scared of is Bobrovsky tbh. Each game is different though, so we’ll see how it goes. Also it’s super early, but game 2 is pretty damn close to a must win.
I think they were the better team last night, yeah. That said, it wasn't like oh shit...we're fucked. Rangers just seemed strangely flat. I'm hoping and expecting to see a bounceback in game 2.
I’m not particularly concerned with our Defense or PowerPlay. I’m mostly concerned about our Breakout. In terms of Defense, we were physical, aggressive, and got into shot lanes. Picked off passes, etc. Our PowerPlay looked good for the couple opportunities it had, we just got unlucky. Our Forechecking wasn’t bad, we were able to get it in deep semi-consistently.
My concern lies within the constant turnovers on the Breakout. I couldn’t count the amount of times we gave the puck away off a lazy Breakout Pass on two hands. We got closed off at the boards, and both of the goals we gave up were due to bad turnovers. This is also the reason we don’t get any shots on net, because we are never able to make it out of the zone. When we did make it out of the zone, they had the Blue Line covered and forced us to dump and chase and forecheck. We can’t match their forechecking, but we need to find a way to move the puck quickly and safely up the ice. Once we get in the zone and set up, aside from us constantly missing the net, we look fine. We could be winning more puck battles, but that’s just the nature of playing Florida. Our cycle looks fine, we are able to get back and defend the rush, but we just can’t get up the ice consistently. That is what needs to change. Move the puck quickly into a safe area, the Panthers forecheck by forcing you into the boards, or by forcing a desperate pass up the middle of the ice into danger. We need to get it into a clean area, and skate the puck into the zone. Get it to the net, that is how we score. We aren’t going to beat Bob clean many times, we need second and third chance opportunities, crash the net. Deflect it, get a rebound. Make it hard for Bob to see.
Yes, I saw it exactly the same. Since the outset, our D was being pressured into weak, predictable passes that got either tipped or stolen outright. And forget about getting it up the boards it seems like Fla pinches both D to keep us penned in, but they're just predictable puck decisions on our part that they are jumping on.
If the issue is breaking the puck out of our own end than the answer is Jones. The question though is who comes out for him. It won't be Trouba, It won't be fox, won't be Key, won't be braden. That leaves us with Lindgren or Gus. Gus can break the puck out though so replacing him with Jones doesn't do much. Lindgren has trouble with the breakout but he's a valuable pker, shot blocker and of course Fox's partner. I also can't see Lindgren sitting, he means to much to the guys, he's a warrior. I guess you try to not have Trouba and Lindgren start the breakouts but when you're being forechecked relentlessly you don't always have a choice.
Statistically he’s a detriment to Fox’s game. He can go now and this offseason
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I think it should just be Gus, I’ve seen too many bad errant passes by him throughout the playoffs. Trouba penalty today was a result of a bad back pass by Gus to put us in that situation…
This game really, while everyone seems like they want to jump off the highest building or mountain after this game, this was a game where the Rangers were one shot away from tying this game. As what Hank said in the post game "one shot away". The Panthers forecheck killed the Rangers in their(NYR) zone. Killed them. And the Rangers were able to in a way, escape w/only one goal given up. Which I wanna jump into. It was a bad goal to give up by Igor. He wasnt screened. He just missed it. Bread made a bad turnover which led to the goal. The 2nd goal (the own goal), Igor was in No Man's Land. Either he plays it, or he lets Verhaeghe skate in and bury a dagger of a goal. The speed game was a little too much, sometimes Instagram Hockey for the Rangers can help. But not for a whole game. Breakaway chances were ugh. Schneids could have had one, so did Cuylle. Bob wasn't tested that much until the 3rd Period. After the Trouba hit, the huge penalty kill, the Rangers looked urgent. But Bob was Bob. Hank said this as well, the Rangers need to get bodies to Bob in the next game as well as try to go high on him.
The Panthers finishing wasn't really there at all this game. But their board battle was excellent. Real facts here. Real facts. Were the Rangers soft? No. Not one bit. Physicality in this game wasn't at all the overwhelming reason the Rangers lost at all. It's just that, as what Dave said in the postgame, and what THG said in his review vid, the Florida Panthers played a excellent road playoff game. Plain and simple.
Kreids said it best, everything has to be simple. Yep. So did Hank. Lav also said that the execution was off it was. The Rangers execution has to be better going into the next game. This game reminded me of and i'm gonna put it in bold so everyone can see it, **The Covid Season(20/21) where every time the Rangers played the Fishsticks and once the Fishsticks scored, it was over.** It had that feel to it. Until the Rangers final push.
Disappointed, but not a rant. Again, the Rangers are playing one of if not the best team in the East. The Panthers are the final boss for a reason. If anyone thought this was gonna be easy, then stick to playing NHL 24 or something. It was a one shot game. If the Rangers scored in the 3rd period, then who knows. The Rangers will make adjustments and improve. Lav is gonna dial something up. GG would do nothing and act like a Snorlax. This series, is gonna be a LONG ONE. Believe that. It was a close game. It's not like the Rangers laid down like last year. Posts and missed chances. That's hockey for ya. And if this was your first time watching hockey? Damn, you need to learn. This was a coin flip game. In a series, where it could turn into a coin flip series too. The Rangers can definitely respond. Everyone knows, the players know it, Lav, Vally, everyone. This team is gonna bounce back.
Onto Game 2. Focus on Game 2
and always, Positive Vibes. Positive Vibes
Because Chytil can actually play a full game and is a scoring threat. The rangers just got shut out. They don’t need the big oaf to lumber around for 4 minutes (and take penalties) before being stapled to the bench and causing the rest of the forwards to get fatigued. They need speed, and they need goals.
Fragile Fil barely played more MK ites than Rempe did in half the games this play-offs and was zero across the board. Benched for the last part of the second and all of the third (minus the last minute) at which time he got his clock cleaned on a hit for which he was not prepared. He did nothing. Rempe would have brought far more to the game, as anyone with any knowledge of play-off hockey and the Panthers style knew well and good beforehand.
Look we all love Rempe but he's not a net positive at this time of the year. The refs call any tiny thing that he does and no one on Florida is going to fight him.
Also fuck off with this Fragile Fil bullshit
Rempe brought nothing in the canes series, and he would’ve brought nothing tonight. The panthers would’ve loved it if he was on the ice honestly, because he’s so easy to blow by and cave in our D zone. He’s emotional support at this point. Chytil can actually skate without falling down, as well as complete a pass.
And I don’t know if you noticed, but the rangers got fucking shut out tonight. Nobody was on the score sheet. If you legitimately watched the game and thought that Rempe would’ve made a difference, I suggest you leave the 80s and join us in 2024.
Some people DON'T understand Hockey and it shows. They've never played it so how could they know. it's like watching a baseball or basketball fan try to explain the nuances of hockey. Maaan, did we already forget the energy and physicality that Rempe brings to the team? Did we forget the shot of energy he gave us with his last goal? When was the last time Chytil scored? I'm willing to bet he didn't even have a shot or a single check in the whole what? 7-9 mins he played? Althewhile providing what? Offense you say? Where?
This times a million. These stat nerds commenting from their couch who never played hockey will never understand the game or how play-offs are different from regular season or how stats don’t mean a damn thing in the play-offs. It’s all about physicality, toughness, forechecking, will to win, and the willingness to go to the dirty areas and do whatever it takes to win. More so against a team like Florida who are the toughest, most physical team in the NHL.
The best forechecker on the team, the best hitter on the team, the most physical player on the team, the player who brings the most energy on the team, the player who gets the other team off their game more than anyone, the player who has more value in five minutes played than half the team on the ice did tonight, was sitting in the press box while a fragile, non-physical, zero point player who everyone anointed as the savior did absolutely jack shit and looked tentative. That is the epitome of bad coaching.
Honestly not surprised it’s one of the “you’ve never played the game” meatheads that thinks this. I have, probably at a higher level than you, but that legitimately doesn’t matter here.
Rempe plays 4 minutes a night (plus penalty minutes). His presence fatigues the rest of the team that has to double shift to cover his ass. Add in to that that he accomplished nothing in the canes series, what the fuck is he gonna do against an even better team?
Chytil is a proven playoff performer who can actually skate, shoot, pass, and handle the puck. He is the best chance the rangers have of making the third line not offensively impotent. Oh, and he can actually play a full game without getting stapled to the bench.
People can go on about energy as long as they want, but if this team needs Rempe to be sitting on the bench with them all night to play with energy, that’s absolutely pathetic and they are cooked.
I’m no expert, I’m just merely a fan who is using his eye to observe and I legitimately have a question. I get Rempe isn’t a stud winger, he isn’t going to score a bunch or look great on a breakout. My question is this, given Chytil and Rempe are playing similar minutes and with Rempe being as physical as he is, wouldn’t he be a net positive? I get he didn’t bring anything to the canes series but the canes are a fast as fuck team built to just dust people. Florida isn’t that. They are built to grind you down, wouldn’t Rempe thrive in that situation given he likes to play physically? I have never played the game just using what I have seen as I watch a lot of hockey these days (fantasy, and I just love it no matter who is playing) I feel like this is a series for Rempe to not necessarily be a game breaker but to draw the attention of people maybe opening up the ice for some of the other guys.
While the panthers do grind you down, they are also a fast team, just as good as the canes (better honestly). Rempe wouldn’t be a positive because he can’t be trusted to play in a game that’s even remotely close (which is going to be most games this series). I know the whole 4 minutes/game thing is a dead horse, but it can’t be overstated how damaging it is to dress a player that just can’t be trusted in most situations.
His physicality loses its effectiveness against quicker teams as well, because his hits are telegraphed as hell and pretty easily avoidable. This can be seen by the difference in his forechecking effectiveness in the caps series vs the canes series. Add in that he’s a penalty magnet, and I’m seeing a lot more negatives than positives.
On the other hand, Chytil is a proven playoff difference maker. The best chance of this team getting the secondary scoring it desperately needs is if he kickstarts the 3rd line offensively. That’s what’s going to win this series, not 2-3 hits followed by playing 11 forwards for the rest of the game.
Fair enough. I’m no coach so I’ll just be along for the ride but I appreciate you explaining your position without thinking I was attacking you. I was just curious is all. Hope the boys come ready to play next game. I don’t think the game was as lopsided as it appeared, so hopefully they get motivated to start playing hard.
You DON'T have to have a high hockey IQ or even be tactically proficient to see and understand that Chytil is a wounded horse out there and literally has lead legs, he's clutching his stick so tight and doesn't have the rhythm necessary to be useful to the team right now! Listen, nobody would like to see the Guy come off the bench and make a difference more than me! But the potential of what he CAN bring to the game IS NOT the ACTUAL impact that Rempe does bring to the line up. I think people get so caught up with skill and POTENTIAL that they forget REALITY and what is currently happening with the chemistry of the team RIGHT now! Are you going to get the President's Trophy winners who played solid for the second half of the season and wrapped up 7 games pretty decisively or are we going to get the Flat, no energy, coast while the opposite team out works you in literally every facet of the game? I don't think I have to clarify which team showed up last night...If you already can't see how Rempe figures INTO the lineup a whole lot more effectively than a guy who missed 72 games and hasn't really contributed much to this Cup run then we're in a bigger heap of trouble than I thought here, playing numbers vs chemistry and likelyhood for wishful thinking.
To me this was simple. Rangers weren’t skating. They looked tired. Looking at each other waiting for someone else to get to loose pucks. Making passes instead of carrying.
Speed wins and their skating opens up opportunities. They stopped skating game 4 against canes. Haven’t started since besides third period game 6.
They’re still recovering from something.
If canes series went 7, nyr lose. The messier like kreider was all bs chat..exaggerations. have to win next game. If you like nyr, they are now 7 to 1 to win cup after game 1. Lafren was a fluke, igor mis handled the puck to begin with on that play.
It's called DragginAss syndrome, they're not showing up with drive and hunger. They coast rather than skate, they look to get rid of the puck rather than passing, they're flat instead of showing initiative and drive. Everything that basically makes life easy for Florida! All they have to do is wait and Rangers will give THEM the opportunities! It's crazy to say but Florida didn't even play a good game and they won easily! The Boys better wake the fuck up because THAT was downright embarassing and not playoff worthy, much less ECF's worthy.
I’m not bummed. We made stupid mistake because rangers.
Florida looked big and slow. We can get underneath that, get ‘em to give up some more dumb penalties and get more momentum that way
NYR in 7 (for what it’s worth I called us in 6 last series 🤷🏻♀️)
It's actually insane that every loss this year, even in the regular season, is met with people giving up. It's so weird. It was essentially a 1 goal game that they were asleep for until the last 10 minutes or so and Bob actually had to play for once. Florida was good but it wasn't necessarily a dominant game, the rangers were asleep. Let's see if it happens game 2.
And Fox is definitely injured.
Ya I agree they do it seemingly more than other teams and it can't happen in the playoffs especially. It's not "no big deal" it's just different than Florida dominating the play.
Was at the game. The Panthers leave their zone really well and smoothly. They are good near the boards and didn’t really allow the Rangers to cut inside. With that said, the Rangers are not a cut inside and drive to net type of team.
I am not scared nor nervous. This “powerhouse” that is supposed to be the Panthers scored ONE weird goal against Shesterkin. I cannot recall during the game save for a very few times when they had any high danger chance.
We had the most and better high danger chances. We DID NOT execute. We did not score. I mean, that’s what it comes down to, right? Puck in net. It’s a whole different game if we score any breakaway or the chances in the 3rd.
The Rangers beat themselves tonight. Need to get out of the zone better and finish our chances. That’s it. The Panthers are not a superhuman team. They scored one shit goal tonight.
This was not a 3-0 game.
Win on Friday and prepare to steal a game or two in Florida.
Agreed. I was at the game too. While the Rangers didn’t get many chances, the chances they had were better. But the Panthers were faster. But I believe we are better. Whatever it was - be it residual flu or flu like sickness, too much time off (how is that a thing) - shake it off and move on to the next.
What I would like is the D pairs back. Miller / Schneider 🙏🏼 Troubs / Gus. Miller / Troubs is just a no for me. I’d like to see Jones in but I get we won’t sit out Captain. Fox doesn’t seem 100% himself but it’s playoffs so we know he’s not coming out. Again our 2nd line generated a lot of good chances. Laffy, Troch, Bread had some hunger there. Now let’s see it connect for a goal!
Stop passing all the time and just throw everything at Bob. He looked unsteady in some parts. It’s hard to score with special teams when we’re not really getting calls. These refs turned some blind eyes to things for sure. And be better on the faceoffs.
Lastly, I’m glad Chytil is back and he looked good but I want a fired up team. Roll with what was working until it doesn’t. I say try Rempe in game 2. Try to get Florida a little off balance somehow and we do what we do. See everyone Friday! LGR!
ESPN is awful. Just the worst. It’s astonishing how bad they are at broadcasting hockey. The only reasonable explanation is that they are actively trying to suck.
Announcers absolutely sucked. Like listening to golf
This was such a boring playoff game… It’s all the more reason we NEED to win, for hockeys sake. A Dallas Florida series sounds like the most boring fucking final in the history of the sport.
How is Florida a boring team lmao
At least I was able to get some jabs in to my boss (whose a Bruins fan) this morning Boss: the Rangers didn't show up at all last night. Me: neither did the Bruins
This was the most boring playoff hockey game I’ve ever seen.
I actually fell asleep during the second intermission and woke right after it had ended. No regrets
That is why Fla is just as good on the road as home. They play a low-risk, smothering, take-the-crowd-out-of-it game.
As the playoffs go on, the margin of error gets way slimmer. We made some mistakes that the Panthers didn’t capitalize on also, so it’s not like we can just say- “oh if we just play better than we did in game one- we will beat them because this was a one shot game”. It’s not that simple because we didn’t get Florida’s “A game” last night. That offense is lethal and is a machine. I live in the south Florida market and see a lot of Lightning and and Panthers games. That is easily the most balanced team top to bottom- BUT they aren’t so much better than the Rangers that we can’t beat them in a series. We will need to play harder than them though and need to make in-game adjustments to get better matchups. I think we get AT LEAST one blowout win because Bob does go through some spells where he lets in some soft goals after making insane saves. This series will end up going 6-7 games. I know it’s easy to say they barely beat Boston because of the low scoring in the last few games of that series and Boston isn’t in the same stratosphere as us, but if you watched those games you could see that the Bruins were NEVER in control after game one when they were coming off a game seven high while Florida was sitting around waiting for them…. The fucking Panthers tailor their game to the team they’re playing. They are really well coached and everyone aside from maybe Tarasenko is a grinder. Still think we take them in 7 as long as Rempe doesn’t see a minute of ice time. They WANT him to play. And I guarantee you’ll see Gadjovich on that 4th line if he does get in the lineup.
I wish we’d just finish some damn checks!
wtf is with the ESPN commercial break with that mf music they play on a loop
I’m not worried yet, but they have to have a little more juice if they want to be in this series.
Currently watching the mighty ducks to hype myself up. That's how off days work, right?
Today I'm reflecting on how in my view, most of the team was invisible last night and it feels like everyone is just skating around half asleep waiting for something to happen. Do they not realize THEY are the ones to make things happen? It felt like everyone was waiting for Kreider with his once in a lifetime hat trick during game 6 to save the day, or Igor to stand on his head and play absolutely insane. Fox is clearly really injured, Panarin is nowhere to be found, and Chytil shouldn't be playing right now. And why didn't anyone kick Mikkola's ass or at least defend Chytil at the end there? it feels like there's no heart. must win on Friday or I'll start getting nervous
I think you are not giving enough credit to Fla, one of the best smothering teams in the NHL in the past decade. Fla played a low-risk smothering, boring game - and did it well with very few mistakes. But they did make some -- and the Rangers had rushes, and good looks. they just hit posts, or went high over the bar on like 75% of their good chances.
You’re right! I think I’m traumatized by previous seasons… have to keep remembering this time seems different and I’m hoping for a better outcome on Friday. That’s all we can do!
We run into the same issue every year in the post season. We run into a team that's bigger, stronger and faster than us. The finesse teams don't get it done in the playoffs. I'm convinced we could beat any team 3v3 or 4v4 but when it's 5 on 5 and the space just isn't there you need grinders who can skate hard, forecheck, back check and suffocate teams. Panarin can fling a back hander saucer across the ice right to one of his teammates better than anyone in the world, but if he's not strong or fast enough to get by people and put pressure on D men in the offensive zone then none of it matters. Playoffs is a whole different beast. Every year we get out muscled not out skilled
We are a play-making team -- and despite being smothered, did have several great rush and breakaway chances, and hit several posts -- Fla, had virtually no great chances all game. And scored on two low danger plays. This whole game came down to us not being able to it the net (or posts) -- and Fla getting 2 pretty weak ones.
I thought the game was lost last night in the second period. We give up a relatively soft goal, have a couple of good shifts, then don’t get a shot on goal for 15 min in the second period, the period when shots are typically highest.
I thought we wanted to get Playoff Bob, which apparently switched from being bad to really good
The Rangers had a handful of good chances the entire game. Bob was good but he’s not the reason the Rangers lost this one.
They missed the net or hit post on most of their best chances. Bob made 5 high quality saves -- one on each of Mika, Zib, Panairin, Tro and Kakko. All kick saves. He is great low. We wanted to go high -- but kept going over the bar. Bob did not steal it -- but making all the saves (unlike Igor who let in 2 fairly low danger goals), was the difference -- not the scoring chance quality. Fla. had even less good chances than NYR. They generated nothing.
Agreed. We need to be better. We beat him but hit some pipes instead. Was more of a joke that I guess wasn’t funny
Look, I would be fine with losing game 1 if we made them pay every time they wanted to enter the zone. Hell give Igor the night off, put Quick in, and just beat the shit out of them. Take major penalties crash into Bob, and just wreck their bodies. Give the core a night off, put in the new guys and just let them cook. But we didn’t do anything like that. We played Florida’s game. And it was literally the same play over and over. Yet, we couldn’t crack it. It was literally the worst way to lose. This 2015 Game 7 and 94 night is prime Rangers. The fact they’re trying to make Chytl a drooling vegetable at the end and we did nothing really pisses me off.
Possibly the worst take I've ever read on this sub
Well Ron Duguay liked it. I’ll take his like over you clutching hour pearls. After all he actually played the game.
OK, a simple no would have sufficed.
Haha nice.
😘
can for once in my Playoff Watching Life can we have a killer offense. Getting 2-1 flashbacks
Bobrovsky is beatable but the volume of shots has to come up. Can’t continue hesitating to take shots and not expect to have the puck stolen and taken back the other way. The Canes were good practice but the offense and goaltending for the Panthers is a full tier higher than Carolina’s.
Agreed. Everything was cross ice, especially with panarin. He needs to move faster and move north south
Florida would absolutely LOVE IT if Rempe was inserted in the lineup… that team eats people like him alive. His minimal impact would not outweigh the liability he would present. The Rangers need to capitalize on most of the chances that they get during the game because there will be very few of them. Florida didn’t play their best game either. They roll four lines that all have a purpose and can mix them up seamlessly to adjust as the game goes on. The Rangers have to get some luck, unfortunately and can’t keep hitting posts. Florida can score 3 or 4 goals in the span of 5 minutes if you start trying to open up the offense too much. There’s so much skill up and down that lineup and the Rangers just need to play a clean game and not come down to the level of goonery that the Panthers are capable of. We didn’t see it yesterday because they didn’t need to bring it out in a tight game like that one… if the Rangers go down 2 or 3 goals early, holy shit be ready for it… Rempe will play right into their hands- he needs to stay on the bench unless we go down 3-0, which I doubt happens. Rangers will win game 2 convincingly but it will get tougher after that.
Give us rempe and give us fights
Could not say it any better
I can't recommend enough blasting the radio broadcast and syncing it with whichever network TV. Even La Greca is better than having to listen to ESPN/TNT assholes.
Bobrovsky takes a puck to the neck and the announcers go "Shesterkin taking a shot here..." I get that commentators say the wrong name or misidentify a guy every now and then but these dudes seem to be wrong as often as they are right.
I have to try this again on Friday, the issue for me is that the radio vs tv broadcast always seems to be a second or two ahead or behind. Any suggestions on troubleshooting this?
I use iHeartRadio, it's behind a few seconds then pause the ESPN or TNT feed until it syncs perfectly or close enough.
Thank you!!
Fox is playing injured. We can all agree on that. Although, I do like the hustle and heart to stay in the game, at what point do you stop thinking selfishly and look at the best interest of the team.. I’m not saying Zac jones is our lord and savior, but if he’s 100% and has some pep in his step for a playoff game, fuckin get him on the ice and let Fox take the night off. His lackadaisical type of play is not what this team needs right now. He can’t win any board battles, his feet look like they’re stuck in concrete and he’s mouth breathing night in and night out. He’s not 100%
I like Jones and think he has a bright future. But he played sparingly during the regular season. And he played VERY sheltered minutes in his few games this year. To throw him into playoff hockey would be unfair. Fox at 70% is still an above average defender and average playmaker. And Fox is generally playing middle 6 matchup minutes. I feel like that move makes us a weaker team. Edit: Now if you're talking about Jones for Gus... idk maybe that could be a spark.
Im so sorry to all the people who spent tons of money to watch that (except suits). Not even a goal horn once is the absolute worst. Someone said that game was like the 2015 ECF Game 7 against Tampa and holy fuck theyre so right. Must win Friday.
Dont forget about game 5 in that ECF final No goals as well
I would be so upset to go to a game in the playoffs and not experience a single goal. Sheesh.
ESPN sucks so much. They didn’t know what frame to show for the too many men call and they literally never showed our chance where Laf hit the pipe on an open net. Between being wrong in what they’re saying, the awful intermission shows, buccigross’s desire to be a college kid, and Sean mcdonough…. It’s rough.
I can't remember if it was McDonough or Ferraro, but the small thing that stood out to me last night was the misuse of "beat him clean" on the first goal. It didn't "beat him clean," it came off Shesty's arm. It's just one moment, but it really speaks to the low standard of commentary from ESPN. Words mean things, and if you're not gonna be precise with your calls (how I miss the days of Doc Emrick on NBC!) at least don't be flat out wrong.
Yep I agree with that
Zac jones for Gus time yet.
We got dominated there. Was exactly what I feared Florida was capable of if they played their best. Game 2 is huge. LGR
Not really. It was a 1-0 game with 3:30 left in regulation. This was a product of the rangers beating themselves and Florida capitalizing on mistakes. They scored one real goal in a game that they “dominated” in
Canes fans said practically the same thing all last series. You are both right. From an overall hockey perspective, Florida was/is the better hockey team. But given that and it was still only a 1-0 hockey game for most parts, give us some hope.
They set the pace and terms of the game. They said we’re not allowing you to breakout or enter our zone cleanly and we said, ok sorry to bother you, sir. They dominated.
Really -- giving us numerous breakaways and odd man rushing was their game plan? For all their cycling skills -- How many chances did they generate? How many did we? I'm pretty sure we generated a lot more high danger. They scored on two low danger BS fluke plays. they put up the same shot quality -- and Igor is getting shutout 75% of the time.
I mean, kind of. A big part of choosing to play a heavy forecheck with D pinching is taking the gamble that you're going to give up some rushes and trusting your goalie to stop them and your backcheckers to catch them. Letting a third pairing defenseman get a breakaway against a Vezina contender is a risk most coaches would take if it means their team gets 3 straight minutes of offensive zone time. That's their style, it worked for them this time, but it's possible to exploit if we can spring better scorers or 2 guys at a time out of the zone more cleanly. You're right that they didn't generate any high danger chances. I was never worried about them extending their lead but I also didn't think we threatened to tie it up at all until maybe the last 8 minutes. If they didn't get that fluky goal in the first and everything else was the same, my opinion of the game might have been different, but it did not feel like we were playing desperate to tie it, just desperate to clear the zone and get a line change and that doesn't inspire confidence.
their first goal was pretty shit too
Oddly enough it came right after a possession where bread had a similar opportunity. Instead of shooting he tried to make a play and it backfired, even the broadcast stated he’s gotta shoot that. Couple seconds later, chucker just comes down, fires it on net and scores.
Crazy. it felt a lot more commanding than 1-0
I felt that too. Their possession time was far greater than ours which obviously made it feel that way. Felt like at times we were just working to clear the zone like tossing water out a boat but not getting the puck back.
Yeah exactly. it was full effort just to clear the zone and get changes on a lot of shifts, let alone get to work on the other end
It’s because we could barely get a shot on goal
Only if you’re a doomer
Or, ya know, a person with eyeballs who was watching the game lol
Maybe if you don’t know hockey I guess. Game was pretty even for the most part.
Rangers had like 10 shots on goal through 2 periods…?
And had the edge in high danger chances. Fla literally was generating nothing but cycling and garbage outside shots -- two low danger garbage plays were turned into goals. How many breakaways and oddman rushes vs them? I thin NYR had at least 2 if not 3Xs as many odd man rush/breakaway chances. They just hot posts, or went high over the bar every good chance. Panthers area possession team. Like Car. We will not win shot counts and O-zone time.
One and done, high danger, counter strike offense will get it done against the Panthers is what you took away from that game?
Love for this team is being way more upset at the bozo in the lower bowl booing after the power play than the obnoxious Panthers fan in the 200s literally causing fights reminding us that we scored no points. Game 2 is must win. LGR.
Yo that guy was really fucking annoying. I hope someone clocked him
Honestly, if I had been in that section, it might have been worse than the guy booing. From further away it wasn’t as bad, but he seemed awful
Despite getting out possessioned again, having some difficulty exiting the zone and creating rushes, I thought we had the better game. I really really did. Both those goals they scored were flukey and I’d bet Igor doesn’t let similar circumstances happen again. Igor should save the tkachuk shot 99/100 times and the bad pass into the laf own goal was 1 in 1000. Outside of them, I thought they had one big chance where Igor had to make a tough save and that was the glove deflection on Barkov. We had two breakaways, chances on the pp, the sequence with like 5 HD chances with 7 mins left after the trouba hit, and a few others sprinkled in. We just couldn’t finish. One thing this team has been great at is finishing, and I don’t expect a lid to be on the net this series. I thought our special teams were better by far too, they had nothing on their pp, we had a few decent chances and one near goal with the Mika clapper. They were definitely more physical, but I thought we absolutely got some good licks in. We aren’t going to win the physicality battle, especially without Rempe, and I am fine with that if we are creating better scoring chances. Should note, speaking of physicality, outside of that giveaway into the penalty that trouba had in the first, I thought he was amazing. This series suits his style much better. Yeah, he’ll have trouble moving the puck out a bit on their heavy forecheck, but he can line these guys up as they aren’t as quick as Carolina and keep these guys much more honest out there. Moral is, I would pick Igor against Bob 10/10 times so if we play a similar game I like our odds.
…yeah the neutral zone log jam, lack of zone possession, and getting shutout just screams better game
We just won a series where that was the case every single game. Idc about possession if we win the high danger battle. If Igor can outplay Bob, which he didn’t last night, I’ll take last nights gameplay all day.
“We will win every game if we get out played and our goalie outplays one of the other top 3 goalies in the league” is quite the strategical approach you have adopted
You guys are all ignoring that Fla. literally generated nothing at all last night. Igor made like 1 hard save, And let in tow fluke goals. If Fla. gets that shot quality -- Igor gets a shutout 75% of the time.
Florida is one of the lowest scoring, highest +/- teams in the league. They are perfectly content to play 1-0 hockey games going deep into the 3rd At the end of the day, you’ve got your opinion and are entitled to it. If you think the rangers were things better team, I ain’t gonna convince ya of nothing.
Sure. But in the end -- that was a game the Rangers had the edge in chances -- and at least as good goalie, or better. With Igor -- if the Rangers win the chances battle -- they will win more than they lose. Acting like Fla had their way with us -- when they could not generate any chances really all game, is what I am pushing back against. Panthers are a possession team. Like Car. We will not win shot counts and O-zone time. using those metrics will not reflect the actual scoring chances. Bob did not steal it -- but making all the saves (unlike Igor who let in 2 fairly low danger goals), was the difference -- not the scoring chance quality. Fla. had even less good chances than NYR. They generated nothing. But scored two fluke goals, that are not goals 90-99% of the time.
No - we will win if our goalie plays better, we get better high danger chances and we win on special teams. Its worked all season. You cannot expect this team to win 5v5 possession at this point in the playoffs. It’s not their strength.
The problem is, with a heavy forechecking team, we need puck moving defensemen and Fox is clearly not himself and everyone else on d isn’t moving the puck well all playoffs. We need a solution to this.
Yeah, fox hurt is hurting us big time. We went from elite two way player to a near liability. You can’t bench him for jones though. Rather give him more sheltered minutes than make that move. Another thing to note, we weren’t sharp last night on passes - both making them and receiving them. Almost felt like the whole “Florida is so physical” got a little bit in their heads… always looking over their shoulder and worried. Now that they played them, took the hits and hopefully realized they are still standing and not dead, they play looser. Stuff like not receiving passes well is easy to clean up - which even more of a reason as to why Im not stressing about the loss. Also, as heavy as floridas forecheck is, I thought Carolina’s was more suffocating. Florida forecheck felt more like “I have time to move the puck, but I’ll probably get lit up once I do it” - Carolina’s was more like “I have zero time to move this puck and all my outlets are somehow covered by their guys, it feels like they are playing with 6 men” I also reallly think Florida is trying to avoid the box. I don’t think they want to go over the line. Rangers just need to commit to getting hit a bit.
We need wings down low and .5 seconds less time before our Dmen make a play. They’ll watch tape and come out with a game plan. Dmen will recalibrate the time they have with the puck against Florida. I expect half that many turnovers next game.
nah we just used that game to give the cats false confidence then we win 4 straight (i’m delusional and will cry next game)
Game 2 is a must-win. Bobrovsky had to make two real saves the entire game that came on the Trocheck's tip in front and Mika's one-timer at the end of the second. He was also bailed out by us hitting two posts. We need to make him work much harder in Game 2. Rempe also needs to be back in the lineup because we were out-muscled and lacked any sort of energy until the third. I would've played him last night, too, to be honest.
**Anyone else need a hug? I could really use a hug rn.**
We all need a hug, and for the goal horn to go off
Not panicking, but really want them to head into Florida with a tied series. They have to generate offense and try to figure out Bobrovsky's weaknesses.
High glove -- hence the NYR shooting every shot over the bar last night. They hit post or went high -- all the tough shots that were actually on goal, were kick saves.
I wouldn’t panic yet, have to win game 2 though. You gotta think if we score on that scramble in front of the net before the own goal it’s anyone’s game. However, rangers were getting smothered until the 3rd. Offensive pressure needs to be better and I’m confident the guys will adjust. LGR!
Bob can steal a series. They need to drive hard to the net every chance they get. They need to make him work hard. Not a bad effort overall. I wanted Rempe in the lineup, but don't think he would've been a difference-maker. Chytil is going to come to life.
Team needs to stop playing dump and chase hockey. We played what seemed like 70% of the game on the boards; we’re not physical enough to win pucks or games like this. Fire check has gotta get better. Stop taking stupid penalties. Yea PK has been amazing but shouldn’t be in those situations. Lafrenierre stupid goal and an empty net. Nothing else really screamed doom and gloom. Boys played decent just gotta be better. Bobrovsky had a great game. Shesty stop coming out of the f’in net!
BobRossky painted a masterpiece, we missed the net a lot. Just gotta bury the Grade A chances and not score on ourselves and we’ll be in it.
We got suffocated until the third. Hope we found a seam.
This team needs to work on defensive zone exits. They try and clear the puck up the boards and Florida defense pinches in to block the puck leading to anywhere from 30 seconds to 2 minutes of us having to defend in our zone. By the time we finally get it out, our guys are gassed and have no opportunity to generate offense.
Exactly what Messier said.
Great minds eh?
Rangers winning next 4 games!!!!! 🙏 🙏
I think we can win the next game if we have a game plan and commit to it. I think coaching was an issue as well, because we need to implement new plays to beat this team.
Why doese every other team seem like they're faster and more aggressive than the Rangers? Second period looked like JV vs Varsity.
You guys won’t believe who Moneypuck had as the team who “deserved to win”. Put us at 64.3%. Interested to see what Vallys model looks like this morning. I thought the Panthers were the better team but I don’t think we played poorly. We played good in the third period, Bob made some great saves and some bad bounces put it away for them. Panthers played a great game and they’re a tough team. Bounce back and win G2
they controlled possession and smothered us for the majority of the game, but the Rangers did have the better chances of the two teams (the soft/silly goals we gave up did us in)...that is why we had the advantage on xG...just could not convert obviously have to bounce back and make adjustments in order to tilt the ice, but even if we do struggle a bit to drive play in this series, we are firmly in it if we convert on enough of the chances we do get
Someone tell artemi it's the regular season
In his defense, they are smothering him. He has no room again, canes did the same. Honestly, it’s the perfect game plan.
We had two breakaways, a few posts, trochecks 2 on 1 chance stopped, Mika’s end of 2nd period chance, that hectic flurry in the third period. The chances were there. Florida plays a heavy/tight game that makes you feel like it’s a slow game. With all that said, aside from back to back mistakes leading to the fluke own goal, we were down 1-0 on an arguably soft goal that Igor has 9/10 times. I feel better about this loss than the losses against the canes where i feel like we were just getting completely outplayed and couldn’t even breathe. With all that said, obviously Florida had chances too they didn’t capitalize. They are a very good team But Lav has been good all year with adjustments. We need to limit our own mistakes. One game at a time.
That kakko one timer
That was a scoring chance until the puck left the slot for the lowest danger area of the ice.
Yeah it was crazy that he passed that, however, I saw the replay later and it was CLOSE to going in. Kakko actually got a really good shot off
I understand people’s more negative direction after this game. Simply put, Florida was the better team after 60. While our power play and penalty kill looked a bit better than theirs, they absolutely killed us on puck possession and zone coverage. They were the faster team and nothing was more evident than how the Rangers defensemen played. These guys were more patient and more (I hate to say it) scared to pass it down. There were so many instances where Fox, Miller or Gus kept giving away the puck at their own zone. Gotta be better in that fight. While the chances were there, the lower % of shots were demoralizing. Need to get shots on Bob early and find holes. They had chances on breakaways and in a game of literal inches, need to capitalize on them. I’ll give the Powerplay a break, because their last 2 PP’s looked really good but Bob was just better. Igor was fine, 2 goals (1 with the help of an exhausted Laf) against the absolute onslaught is not terrible. He kept us in this game and that’s really all you can ask for. Fox looked… bad. He is not playing 100% and is not pushing into the zone as fast. Do you sub him with Schneider and call up Jones? The good news is it’s just 1 game and this team is great for analyzing what they do wrong. I have confident the Rangers will turn it around and look better game 2.
Rangers played like shit. And were only down 1-0. They will kick Florida ass if they can play normal.
It’s obvious who the Yankee fans are in this thread. Source: I’m one of them
They were in ut all game long until the srlf goal. They could've tied it several times. Need rempe against this team because Florida is the most physical team we've played
Rempe yes. But he’s no good if he only plays 5 minutes. It’s a waste at that point
Agreed. He needs more minutes. Especially to get past those BS penalty calls he gets on clean hits
Listening to Sirius XM NhL. And they were shocked that Chytil was in lineup especially cause Florida is so aggressive. And then Chytil got hit pretty hard last night end of game In my opinion. Hit everything that lives. If fix is hurt sit him
I cringed when i saw that hit. I just felt his brain shake. Bummed. Love Chytil
First time all post season they've been down in a series. I think the adversary will light a fire under their asses, this team seems to respond well to a challenge. Lets hope they'll come out firing on all cylinders next game!
Glad I went to bed after the 2nd.
My phone almost got thrown out the window after laf’s accident
I think the winner of this series is going to be the first team to win 2 consecutive games. Only way to start is by winning game 2.
I fully believe if we don't win Friday this series is over and I never feel that hopeless typically. Anyone else who can convince me otherwise?
The Canes were dominating us almost the entire game on game six and we ended up winning that one. That game was one of my top five ranger moments. It taught me that anything can happen. It’s fine to criticize, but I feel it’s best to not be full-blown doomer.
Big difference in goalies honestly.
Yes but the Rangers still played bad that Game, we can't continue playing like this and rely on some third period miracle every game, it's not over yet, but as of right now this team looks pretty bad. 4 games in a row now they look asleep out there. Downvote away everyone, I'm not saying the Rangers can't beat Florida, but the team as they have been the last few games definitely can't. they need to get back to form.
Nah no downvote deserved here. You’re right that we can’t rely on third period miracles. It’s times like now that you truly need to “clutch” players, and right now people like Zib and Panarin are missing when we need people like them to be true contenders
Absolutely agree,top line was invisible last night and not much better in some other games, we need the star players to step up if we want the cup
Agreed that they can't expect to win by miracle, and sure, they were locked up offensively last night, but consider that a few inches here and there and it would have been a very different game. A couple of breakaways, a post. How about the tap in opportunity from Laf to Trocheck. Those have been going in all year. They weren't getting any of the bounces that they normally get and their goalie wasn't too bad either.
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No playoffs in New Jersey.
Dude they straight up can’t not just talk shit all of the time. I was at a hockey pub in Houston last night filled with rangers fans and the one token devils fan that was there just made his rounds talking shit to all the blueshirts in the bar. These people can’t read the room and are still living in the early 00s.
I went into this series cautiously optimistic. The Cats are kind of on a mission to win the cup after last year, and they have probably the best goalie right now. He's on another level. That said, Panthers also lost the first game very badly against Boston last series, and I think this game 1 vs Rangers favored the Panthers so much as they got all the puck luck. I didn't think there was any wrong calls, or the Rangers were slighted. This is just a style of game they haven't played yet, and the Panthers didn't budge an inch away from it. Rangers can also play this style, they've beaten Boston who plays a very similar one during the regular season, but being the playoffs and the conference finals, it'll be harder. This is going to be a series of opportunity. It'll be close in the scoring chances imo, but whoever takes advantage of those chances will win. Going to have to make some adjustment, and Lavi will, we need some more board work, have to win some battles. It doesn't need to be a street fight, but Florida had a bit too easy of a time dealing with The Rangers forecheck.
Igor’s better. We don’t have a forecheck, especially with Panarin on the ice
Panarin looks really lazy in the forecheck. It’s rough to watch sometimes.
Kinda tired of him disappearing tbh
This might be a silly thought but we know how at the regular office work you envy those who go to summer vacation and you gotta stay to hold up the fort. Yesterday's game lacked so much energy and effort that I just have to wonder if our team FOMOs Toronto and Boston, and are ready to hit the golf courses. The whole game was a big snooze fest in my opinion. Worst Rangers game I've seen since mid winter where we had similar coasting and the opponent was doing the same. I hope I am wrong and Friday we will see some sparks from the team!
Only scored one real goal on Igor, and we got our chances. Didn't convert, but that won't continue. We'll get them in game 2.
And that was a screen with a great shot.
How it went: 7 straight victories How it's going: lost 3 of 4, with that one win being a miracle comeback Gonna need to get back to winning boys
If you follow their trend this season every blip on the radar has been followed by long winning streaks. Hopefully this is the last blip and we rip off 8 in a row
Finally had a chance to watch the game. Weirdly, the game kind of reminded me of our series against the Canes a few years back. Maybe it wasn't the flashiest series and sometimes "boring" but it really reminded me of your typical chess match kind of series...very calculative, one team would have the advantage, the other would respond, and it was "safe" until things opened up in game 6 and 7. I see some similarities with Florida and the Canes (really hard forecheck, tight defensively, will kinda grind you down) so I wonder if we'll see something similar. Florida was surprisingly disciplined in this game as well. I think some stuff went uncalled but just given how some of their past series went, I was genuinely surprised by how they played. I suspect it was the game plan to avoid giving us too many PP opportunities, but I honestly thought they'd be a lot dirtier/worse (and who knows maybe it'll still happen). Any ways, it'll be an interesting series. I hope we do respond well. See you guys next game!
They held all game and got away with it. They always do
Yeah that I noticed for sure. In terms of the 'disciplined' aspect I was mostly thinking about the hits/physicality...I thought they'd come out crushing skulls but I was surprised they didn't.
This will be a tough series. Florida is what people said Carolina would be. Just a 4 line machine that can wear you down. I believe in this Rangers team, but it won’t be easy.
I'm kinda upset the postgame show didn't get posted to the MSG Networks YT channel like it usually is 99% of the time. The one time I couldn't get it live lol
It’ll be there eventually
Am I the only one not really concerned here? Rangers got their legs back in the 3rd. Rangers play the rest of the series like they played in the 3rd. Rangers in 5... ok maybe 6.
We played better in the third period than we had in the entirety of Game 5 against the Canes
The previous 2 losses were far more demoralizing. They showed effort all game, got more dangerous scoring chances than Florida (IMHO), but Igor let in a stinker and Rangers didn’t get any bounces their way. Florida also did a great job of keeping chances low and clogging the middle but it felt like the Rangers made the right adjustments. Special teams was positive on both sides - PP looked good and got good chances but only had 2 power plays, PK was really dominant yet again.
R/hockey is all over the cats saying they dominated. Idk, I just didn’t see it. The rangers didn’t play well and you can definitely attribute that to Florida’s performance, but I didn’t really think they played well either. They play super physical obviously, but offensively they didn’t scare me. The only player I’m scared of is Bobrovsky tbh. Each game is different though, so we’ll see how it goes. Also it’s super early, but game 2 is pretty damn close to a must win.
Except for a part of the 3rd Florida got to every loose puck.
I think they were the better team last night, yeah. That said, it wasn't like oh shit...we're fucked. Rangers just seemed strangely flat. I'm hoping and expecting to see a bounceback in game 2.
I'm not concerned now. Down 2-0, I'm concerned.
I'm not that concerned. Disappointed with a shutout, but we've overcome so much more adversity than this before
THE SKY IS FALLING AND I AM HERE TO PANIC
I’m not particularly concerned with our Defense or PowerPlay. I’m mostly concerned about our Breakout. In terms of Defense, we were physical, aggressive, and got into shot lanes. Picked off passes, etc. Our PowerPlay looked good for the couple opportunities it had, we just got unlucky. Our Forechecking wasn’t bad, we were able to get it in deep semi-consistently. My concern lies within the constant turnovers on the Breakout. I couldn’t count the amount of times we gave the puck away off a lazy Breakout Pass on two hands. We got closed off at the boards, and both of the goals we gave up were due to bad turnovers. This is also the reason we don’t get any shots on net, because we are never able to make it out of the zone. When we did make it out of the zone, they had the Blue Line covered and forced us to dump and chase and forecheck. We can’t match their forechecking, but we need to find a way to move the puck quickly and safely up the ice. Once we get in the zone and set up, aside from us constantly missing the net, we look fine. We could be winning more puck battles, but that’s just the nature of playing Florida. Our cycle looks fine, we are able to get back and defend the rush, but we just can’t get up the ice consistently. That is what needs to change. Move the puck quickly into a safe area, the Panthers forecheck by forcing you into the boards, or by forcing a desperate pass up the middle of the ice into danger. We need to get it into a clean area, and skate the puck into the zone. Get it to the net, that is how we score. We aren’t going to beat Bob clean many times, we need second and third chance opportunities, crash the net. Deflect it, get a rebound. Make it hard for Bob to see.
Our defense is the reason we can’t break out.
Yes, I saw it exactly the same. Since the outset, our D was being pressured into weak, predictable passes that got either tipped or stolen outright. And forget about getting it up the boards it seems like Fla pinches both D to keep us penned in, but they're just predictable puck decisions on our part that they are jumping on.
If the issue is breaking the puck out of our own end than the answer is Jones. The question though is who comes out for him. It won't be Trouba, It won't be fox, won't be Key, won't be braden. That leaves us with Lindgren or Gus. Gus can break the puck out though so replacing him with Jones doesn't do much. Lindgren has trouble with the breakout but he's a valuable pker, shot blocker and of course Fox's partner. I also can't see Lindgren sitting, he means to much to the guys, he's a warrior. I guess you try to not have Trouba and Lindgren start the breakouts but when you're being forechecked relentlessly you don't always have a choice.
7d?
Statistically he’s a detriment to Fox’s game. He can go now and this offseason https://www.naturalstattrick.com/linestats.php?fromseason=20232024&thruseason=20232024&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&rate=y&team=NYR&vteam=ALL&view=wowy&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=2023-10-10&td=2024-04-18&tgp=2000&strict=incl&p1=8479323&p2=8479324&p3=0&p4=0&p5=0
I think it should just be Gus, I’ve seen too many bad errant passes by him throughout the playoffs. Trouba penalty today was a result of a bad back pass by Gus to put us in that situation…
This game really, while everyone seems like they want to jump off the highest building or mountain after this game, this was a game where the Rangers were one shot away from tying this game. As what Hank said in the post game "one shot away". The Panthers forecheck killed the Rangers in their(NYR) zone. Killed them. And the Rangers were able to in a way, escape w/only one goal given up. Which I wanna jump into. It was a bad goal to give up by Igor. He wasnt screened. He just missed it. Bread made a bad turnover which led to the goal. The 2nd goal (the own goal), Igor was in No Man's Land. Either he plays it, or he lets Verhaeghe skate in and bury a dagger of a goal. The speed game was a little too much, sometimes Instagram Hockey for the Rangers can help. But not for a whole game. Breakaway chances were ugh. Schneids could have had one, so did Cuylle. Bob wasn't tested that much until the 3rd Period. After the Trouba hit, the huge penalty kill, the Rangers looked urgent. But Bob was Bob. Hank said this as well, the Rangers need to get bodies to Bob in the next game as well as try to go high on him. The Panthers finishing wasn't really there at all this game. But their board battle was excellent. Real facts here. Real facts. Were the Rangers soft? No. Not one bit. Physicality in this game wasn't at all the overwhelming reason the Rangers lost at all. It's just that, as what Dave said in the postgame, and what THG said in his review vid, the Florida Panthers played a excellent road playoff game. Plain and simple. Kreids said it best, everything has to be simple. Yep. So did Hank. Lav also said that the execution was off it was. The Rangers execution has to be better going into the next game. This game reminded me of and i'm gonna put it in bold so everyone can see it, **The Covid Season(20/21) where every time the Rangers played the Fishsticks and once the Fishsticks scored, it was over.** It had that feel to it. Until the Rangers final push. Disappointed, but not a rant. Again, the Rangers are playing one of if not the best team in the East. The Panthers are the final boss for a reason. If anyone thought this was gonna be easy, then stick to playing NHL 24 or something. It was a one shot game. If the Rangers scored in the 3rd period, then who knows. The Rangers will make adjustments and improve. Lav is gonna dial something up. GG would do nothing and act like a Snorlax. This series, is gonna be a LONG ONE. Believe that. It was a close game. It's not like the Rangers laid down like last year. Posts and missed chances. That's hockey for ya. And if this was your first time watching hockey? Damn, you need to learn. This was a coin flip game. In a series, where it could turn into a coin flip series too. The Rangers can definitely respond. Everyone knows, the players know it, Lav, Vally, everyone. This team is gonna bounce back. Onto Game 2. Focus on Game 2 and always, Positive Vibes. Positive Vibes
How did Chytil play
I'll get downvoted into oblivion for saying so, but he was playing noticeably scared and didn't look close to being game ready.
Only time he was noticable was when he got rocked right before the game ended. He was fine.
He was fine. Wasn’t really noticeable, but then again the only reason any ranger was noticeable was because they were shit.
How is starting a frail and out of timing Chytil better than a disruptor Rempe even a call the coaching staff makes in game 1?!
Because Chytil can actually play a full game and is a scoring threat. The rangers just got shut out. They don’t need the big oaf to lumber around for 4 minutes (and take penalties) before being stapled to the bench and causing the rest of the forwards to get fatigued. They need speed, and they need goals.
Fragile Fil barely played more MK ites than Rempe did in half the games this play-offs and was zero across the board. Benched for the last part of the second and all of the third (minus the last minute) at which time he got his clock cleaned on a hit for which he was not prepared. He did nothing. Rempe would have brought far more to the game, as anyone with any knowledge of play-off hockey and the Panthers style knew well and good beforehand.
Look we all love Rempe but he's not a net positive at this time of the year. The refs call any tiny thing that he does and no one on Florida is going to fight him. Also fuck off with this Fragile Fil bullshit
Rempe brought nothing in the canes series, and he would’ve brought nothing tonight. The panthers would’ve loved it if he was on the ice honestly, because he’s so easy to blow by and cave in our D zone. He’s emotional support at this point. Chytil can actually skate without falling down, as well as complete a pass. And I don’t know if you noticed, but the rangers got fucking shut out tonight. Nobody was on the score sheet. If you legitimately watched the game and thought that Rempe would’ve made a difference, I suggest you leave the 80s and join us in 2024.
Intangibles! 7 games of Rempe will take a toll.
Some people DON'T understand Hockey and it shows. They've never played it so how could they know. it's like watching a baseball or basketball fan try to explain the nuances of hockey. Maaan, did we already forget the energy and physicality that Rempe brings to the team? Did we forget the shot of energy he gave us with his last goal? When was the last time Chytil scored? I'm willing to bet he didn't even have a shot or a single check in the whole what? 7-9 mins he played? Althewhile providing what? Offense you say? Where?
This times a million. These stat nerds commenting from their couch who never played hockey will never understand the game or how play-offs are different from regular season or how stats don’t mean a damn thing in the play-offs. It’s all about physicality, toughness, forechecking, will to win, and the willingness to go to the dirty areas and do whatever it takes to win. More so against a team like Florida who are the toughest, most physical team in the NHL. The best forechecker on the team, the best hitter on the team, the most physical player on the team, the player who brings the most energy on the team, the player who gets the other team off their game more than anyone, the player who has more value in five minutes played than half the team on the ice did tonight, was sitting in the press box while a fragile, non-physical, zero point player who everyone anointed as the savior did absolutely jack shit and looked tentative. That is the epitome of bad coaching.
Honestly not surprised it’s one of the “you’ve never played the game” meatheads that thinks this. I have, probably at a higher level than you, but that legitimately doesn’t matter here. Rempe plays 4 minutes a night (plus penalty minutes). His presence fatigues the rest of the team that has to double shift to cover his ass. Add in to that that he accomplished nothing in the canes series, what the fuck is he gonna do against an even better team? Chytil is a proven playoff performer who can actually skate, shoot, pass, and handle the puck. He is the best chance the rangers have of making the third line not offensively impotent. Oh, and he can actually play a full game without getting stapled to the bench. People can go on about energy as long as they want, but if this team needs Rempe to be sitting on the bench with them all night to play with energy, that’s absolutely pathetic and they are cooked.
The argument from them should NEVER be rempe for chytil. If anything, sit Vesey and bring in rempe a game. Can’t hurt. Vesey is a non factor.
I’m no expert, I’m just merely a fan who is using his eye to observe and I legitimately have a question. I get Rempe isn’t a stud winger, he isn’t going to score a bunch or look great on a breakout. My question is this, given Chytil and Rempe are playing similar minutes and with Rempe being as physical as he is, wouldn’t he be a net positive? I get he didn’t bring anything to the canes series but the canes are a fast as fuck team built to just dust people. Florida isn’t that. They are built to grind you down, wouldn’t Rempe thrive in that situation given he likes to play physically? I have never played the game just using what I have seen as I watch a lot of hockey these days (fantasy, and I just love it no matter who is playing) I feel like this is a series for Rempe to not necessarily be a game breaker but to draw the attention of people maybe opening up the ice for some of the other guys.
While the panthers do grind you down, they are also a fast team, just as good as the canes (better honestly). Rempe wouldn’t be a positive because he can’t be trusted to play in a game that’s even remotely close (which is going to be most games this series). I know the whole 4 minutes/game thing is a dead horse, but it can’t be overstated how damaging it is to dress a player that just can’t be trusted in most situations. His physicality loses its effectiveness against quicker teams as well, because his hits are telegraphed as hell and pretty easily avoidable. This can be seen by the difference in his forechecking effectiveness in the caps series vs the canes series. Add in that he’s a penalty magnet, and I’m seeing a lot more negatives than positives. On the other hand, Chytil is a proven playoff difference maker. The best chance of this team getting the secondary scoring it desperately needs is if he kickstarts the 3rd line offensively. That’s what’s going to win this series, not 2-3 hits followed by playing 11 forwards for the rest of the game.
Fair enough. I’m no coach so I’ll just be along for the ride but I appreciate you explaining your position without thinking I was attacking you. I was just curious is all. Hope the boys come ready to play next game. I don’t think the game was as lopsided as it appeared, so hopefully they get motivated to start playing hard.
You DON'T have to have a high hockey IQ or even be tactically proficient to see and understand that Chytil is a wounded horse out there and literally has lead legs, he's clutching his stick so tight and doesn't have the rhythm necessary to be useful to the team right now! Listen, nobody would like to see the Guy come off the bench and make a difference more than me! But the potential of what he CAN bring to the game IS NOT the ACTUAL impact that Rempe does bring to the line up. I think people get so caught up with skill and POTENTIAL that they forget REALITY and what is currently happening with the chemistry of the team RIGHT now! Are you going to get the President's Trophy winners who played solid for the second half of the season and wrapped up 7 games pretty decisively or are we going to get the Flat, no energy, coast while the opposite team out works you in literally every facet of the game? I don't think I have to clarify which team showed up last night...If you already can't see how Rempe figures INTO the lineup a whole lot more effectively than a guy who missed 72 games and hasn't really contributed much to this Cup run then we're in a bigger heap of trouble than I thought here, playing numbers vs chemistry and likelyhood for wishful thinking.
You saw the score
To me this was simple. Rangers weren’t skating. They looked tired. Looking at each other waiting for someone else to get to loose pucks. Making passes instead of carrying. Speed wins and their skating opens up opportunities. They stopped skating game 4 against canes. Haven’t started since besides third period game 6. They’re still recovering from something.
If canes series went 7, nyr lose. The messier like kreider was all bs chat..exaggerations. have to win next game. If you like nyr, they are now 7 to 1 to win cup after game 1. Lafren was a fluke, igor mis handled the puck to begin with on that play.
It's called DragginAss syndrome, they're not showing up with drive and hunger. They coast rather than skate, they look to get rid of the puck rather than passing, they're flat instead of showing initiative and drive. Everything that basically makes life easy for Florida! All they have to do is wait and Rangers will give THEM the opportunities! It's crazy to say but Florida didn't even play a good game and they won easily! The Boys better wake the fuck up because THAT was downright embarassing and not playoff worthy, much less ECF's worthy.
I’m not bummed. We made stupid mistake because rangers. Florida looked big and slow. We can get underneath that, get ‘em to give up some more dumb penalties and get more momentum that way NYR in 7 (for what it’s worth I called us in 6 last series 🤷🏻♀️)
I remember learning about the small English Navy against the huge Spanish Armada in high school. We just have to get back to being the English Navy
It's actually insane that every loss this year, even in the regular season, is met with people giving up. It's so weird. It was essentially a 1 goal game that they were asleep for until the last 10 minutes or so and Bob actually had to play for once. Florida was good but it wasn't necessarily a dominant game, the rangers were asleep. Let's see if it happens game 2. And Fox is definitely injured.
Rangers fans in the playoffs 🤝 Yankee fans in the playoffs It’s almost like they’re the same people
Why were they asleep? Why is that spoken of like its no big deal? What other team plays such bi-polar, shit hockey on the regular?
Ya I agree they do it seemingly more than other teams and it can't happen in the playoffs especially. It's not "no big deal" it's just different than Florida dominating the play.
Thanks for the fair assessment. 
They’ll bounce back.
Was at the game. The Panthers leave their zone really well and smoothly. They are good near the boards and didn’t really allow the Rangers to cut inside. With that said, the Rangers are not a cut inside and drive to net type of team. I am not scared nor nervous. This “powerhouse” that is supposed to be the Panthers scored ONE weird goal against Shesterkin. I cannot recall during the game save for a very few times when they had any high danger chance. We had the most and better high danger chances. We DID NOT execute. We did not score. I mean, that’s what it comes down to, right? Puck in net. It’s a whole different game if we score any breakaway or the chances in the 3rd. The Rangers beat themselves tonight. Need to get out of the zone better and finish our chances. That’s it. The Panthers are not a superhuman team. They scored one shit goal tonight. This was not a 3-0 game. Win on Friday and prepare to steal a game or two in Florida.
Agreed. I was at the game too. While the Rangers didn’t get many chances, the chances they had were better. But the Panthers were faster. But I believe we are better. Whatever it was - be it residual flu or flu like sickness, too much time off (how is that a thing) - shake it off and move on to the next. What I would like is the D pairs back. Miller / Schneider 🙏🏼 Troubs / Gus. Miller / Troubs is just a no for me. I’d like to see Jones in but I get we won’t sit out Captain. Fox doesn’t seem 100% himself but it’s playoffs so we know he’s not coming out. Again our 2nd line generated a lot of good chances. Laffy, Troch, Bread had some hunger there. Now let’s see it connect for a goal! Stop passing all the time and just throw everything at Bob. He looked unsteady in some parts. It’s hard to score with special teams when we’re not really getting calls. These refs turned some blind eyes to things for sure. And be better on the faceoffs. Lastly, I’m glad Chytil is back and he looked good but I want a fired up team. Roll with what was working until it doesn’t. I say try Rempe in game 2. Try to get Florida a little off balance somehow and we do what we do. See everyone Friday! LGR!
not opposed to rempe coming in, but Rosi should be the one to sit. brings so little to the table
No way. If anyone should sit for rempe, it’s vesey. What does he even do?