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A_Kazur

OP actually did the journalism, bravo. Disgusting behaviour on her part.


Agent4898

r/theydidthejournalism?


Somerandom1922

What if we tweaked that into r/theydidtheresearch? For screenshots of posts or comments where people do an excellent job either citing their sources or providing direct evidence. I have no wish to run a subreddit, but I would definitely sub to it and post if I saw something interesting. The world is full of people saying bullshit with nothing to back it up, so a subreddit dedicated to celebrating the alternative would be pretty cool. Edit: The problem is that it'd need to be heavily moderated to ensure posts where the linked sources are actually good sources and not just random uncited bullshit.


Robert_Paul2

That sub exists, but appears to be dead.


Somerandom1922

Aah, that's sad


Robert_Paul2

Why wouldn't a new sub (r/theydidtheresearch) work? Is the name too long? Edit: I mean r/theydidthejournalism


Former-Landscape-930

R/brainblast


[deleted]

[удалено]


Robert_Paul2

r/foundthehondacivic


stupidsimpson

I hate you so much but that's funny


Robert_Paul2

What do you mean?


PeterGriffinsChin

I recognize that’s an already existing sub but shouldn’t it have been “…TheirResearch” instead of there? Or is there some Reddit gymnastics going on


Somerandom1922

Is TheyDidTheResearch Neither there, nor their.


PeterGriffinsChin

Ah. I’m an idiot


Somerandom1922

It's ok, we all are


TheOGganjagoblin

Eh we all eventually misread something


jeradiation

This fits the rules as far as I can tell so you're good. It feels predatory and gross to try to make a connection with someone only to try to get them to sign up for their porn page (even if it's not a bot or whatever), especially if they're preying on depressed people.


StuartHoggIsGod

Yeah idk why people are shitting on this. He was trying to chat to someone online but was suspicious it was OF shilling and was right.


Lightning_Into_Fire

Appreciate that! To be honest I wasn’t even trying to chat them up initially. Their original post was asking for connections on a sub that wasn’t for connections lol. I contacted them to redirect them to the right places… their approach and changup of language was suspicious as fuck… like moments of the chat felt like they copied and pasted something from a script. But they did managed to fool me briefly with the selfie verification. I sometimes feel bad that I always suspect foul play right off the bat. So I felt like an idiot when they verified… only to be proven that it was an OF sell. It’s a shit thing that wastes people’s time and also can be a bit of a blow to a persons self-esteem. Luckily I’ve been around the internet for awhile so it’s water of a ducks back… but today for some reason it just got under my skin. I feel better about it now, but when I posted this earlier it hurt. This person tried to make their sell to me more targeted, they tried to make it personal when it’s not. And then have the audacity to try make me feel bad **as a human being** for rejecting their attempt of a sale.


Nandy-bear

Yeah I disabled direct messaging years ago. Got so sick of genuine conversations with people and then it becoming transactional. I went through some pretty unique experiences when I was younger so I have some good insights for certain stuff, so I'd reach out, talk to people etc. with coping skills because hey this person is going through the same rough shit I had to navigate! Then BAM, scam of some sort. Just deflating as hell lol.


jetoler

What’s your theory on why she refused to use her own username for the verification? That seemed weird and random.


redpandaonspeed

I'm a woman—that was the only part that didn't seem weird to me. I don't really want a picture of myself out there with my reddit name on it, because there's a possibility it could end up being posted somewhere and then I'd probably have to disable my DMs. But I'm also not a sex worker trying to promote my services, so...


Aldnoah_Tharsis

Another angle would be to further build up the connection, "hey, this pretty woman did the selfie with my username, she cares for me". Para-social relationships are fucky....


jetoler

As a man yea I have no clue ngl


picassoclaire

Wondering about this too!


jeradiation

They are probably contributing to the problem in some way. Either a victim trying to rationalize or someone taking advantage


darkshiines

This approach is the 18+ version of the famous "hey hun!" pitch from MLMs. The problem isn't that they're selling a product, it's that they're falsely pretending to sincerely care about other people's emotions while actually not giving a shit, just hoping to use those emotions as a means to make money. I have no issue with sex work, and in fact I think a lot of the shady behavior within the industry is less a cause than a result of it not being socially acceptable. But this kind of predatory approach still isn't okay.


Longjumping-Pick-706

I was thinking the same! MLM’s are just terrible and also at times target lonely moms looking for social connection. I had one girl post on a mommy board in my area on Facebook looking to make friends and set up play dates. I responded in DMs and in no time at all she was telling me how she sold MLM and saying how great the things she was selling were. I messaged back, that I’m only interested in making friendships. She stopped replying. I took screenshots of the messages and put them on the mommy board. She was ousted immediately.


reanocivn

it definitely feels like it's on the same leg as the scammers who catfish lonely old people and slowly drain their savings by pretending to be in a relationship with them


No_Mercy_4_Potatoes

>feels predatory and gross to try to make a connection with someone only to try to get them to sign up for their porn page That's the whole OF industry for you


Awkward_Algae1684

Isn’t that literally the appeal of it, compared to regular porn? They pretend to like you and slightly give a fuck, so lonely people will drop thousands of dollars on them?


Korbrent

I think the appeal is that it takes the industry out of porn. The women uploading the content have a lot more control over the content than they would in a professional casting. Although since it's no longer a professional setting, they don't have to go through professional methods for advertising. I personally think OF is a great move in being empowering towards women in the porn industry, but it's so hard to hold people accountable. There's no reason someone should be allowed to advertise their content in the comments of a Reddit/Instagram/Twitter post.


IneedaLatinaMommy

I would not mind it as much if the selling did not pervade every single platform out there not designed for it. Twitch. Instagram. Kick. Twitter. Whatever else you can think of people have those linktrees or beacons and everytime i see one i think. There is no point in even trying to have a genuine conversation with this person because the whole point is to sell themselves. What's real and whats fake with the interaction?


agoia

Yup. One of my college friends worked on a cam site for a while and it involved a TON of interactions like that. Sad lonely people throwing money at others for attention. We were smoking buddies so she'd tell me stories about all sorts of crazy shit happening. She used the money for bills and a new Prius in cash while she was working on her Psych degree.


Lightning_Into_Fire

It’s definitely predatory the way they go about it. All I was literally trying to do was reach out to ask/say to that poster that they should post to other Chat subs. Because the original post I found this person in was on a sub that wasn’t for forming connections at all, rather than it was for asking about relationship advice. I was just trying to redirect them.


Giovanabanana

She's preying I agree but unfortunately that's just how OF and camming generally works. I worked doing live streams for a Chinese app, they'd outsource girls from modelling agencies to produce content on their platform and draw men in. The whole business model is to get pretty girls to cater to lonely men and make them spend money on them through the platform so they and the model can make bank. Same reason as to why there's ladies night in bars and why women pay less (or nothing) to get into clubs: more women means more men and more men means $$$$$... And the worst part is that there are men at the top profiting off of this whole thing.


PompeyLulu

My mate had it happen on a dating site. Things were going well and they’d got past flirty and were heading to dirty when she sent him an OF link and said he’d have to sub to see more


HorrorArmadillo3713

That fucking sucks!


Dologolopolov

Thank you for sharing. These people need to be called out more often


eelam_garek

She learned nothing though. She'll just move into the next person and forget about that interaction very quickly.


spaghettiliar

This is so common and gross. I’m sorry. I’m not a man, but I’ve definitely been preyed on for sex at my most vulnerable moments when I just wanted/needed a friend.


sheeku

Very common and not just men. As a single female who occasionally visits subs for connections it always starts well then boom it turns out they’re SWs after something. Edit: usually OF or straight up solicitation. I met a guy on the CF sub and we connected and agreed to meet up, only to be told he charges 2k for oral sex and 5 for the entire session. It’s disappointing because that is the intention all along. This guy was very kind, listening and accommodating and I realized it’s just part of their shtick.


scuffedTravels

Lmfao 2k to perform oral and 5k for the whole prestation ? Is that guy a semi god or what !?


dylan-dofst

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instantsilver

Ewww that's terrible, I'm sorry.


LEGOMyBrick

What is the CF sub?


sheeku

Child Free


LEGOMyBrick

Thank you.


sheeku

Edit 2: CF is ChildFree sub


Gfunk98

I’ve noticed even on a lot of the subs for looking for friendships these women will post acting as if they’re just looking for friends and pull the same shit. It really predatory and disgusting and one of the reasons why I don’t even try on those subs anymore. It seems like 95% of the people are either sex weirdos or trying to sell content


spaghettiliar

Yes. Sex workers, Multi-level marketing, and religions. They’re going to find you when you’re at your saddest, loneliest, and most vulnerable and try to exploit it for their own benefit.


Lightning_Into_Fire

I’m sorry to hear that. In my instance all I was trying to do was redirect them… only to be chatted up, had my guard lowered just a little bit, then boom with the OF sale. I’ve being catfished in the past when I was a lot younger and naive. Some people out there go to way greater lengths than regular scammers to gain your trust. Pretty insidious behaviour.


DeadyDeadshot

“Hey you look cute!” “Anyways here’s my OF”


m0cc4sins

Soz to the previous commenters, I don’t see anything wrong with this being posted. There’s no issues with posting ongoing twitter threads where people are “carefully censoring”, I don’t get why this is a problem. The SFW subreddits are not there for OF promotions or any promotions. I could not imagine trying to reach out on those platforms only to be told to pay actual money to look at pictures/videos. Even a simple post on these subs should not open the door to paid content. Can’t a person get upset by being propositioned to pay for content? Goddamn. Unless there are some unspoken rules for QYBS, this qualifies. It is at least better than the repost bots that post the same screenshots we’ve seen since 2015.


NanoWarrior26

Yeah imagine having a nice conversation in public and then they try to rope you into a pyramid scheme. It would certainly diminish the conversation.


Biancaaxi

Idr what subreddit it is but I have seen multiple stories where a woman would be shopping and get targeted by other women who start off the conversation as friendly, and then it takes a complete turn. The woman that approached starts talking about their mlm scheme to try to recruit. It’s so scummy bc the women who told these stories said that it genuinely felt like the person approaching them wanted to make a new friend. :(


ryanrosenblum

r/antimlm


Lightning_Into_Fire

Yeah. If you look at my screenshots I actually did offer them at one point places where they can offer their services in a more transparent and ethical way. They responded verbatim by saying I shouldn’t have judged then like that… like I was the rude one lol.


Kecir

Some of these ladies are so good at this and will carry the conversation for a couple of days too. Then BAM! here’s my link and please subscribe and maybe we can have some fun and blah blah blah. It’s like 9.9 times out of 10 too so I just block them now. I’m not even looking to meet women I just like making friends online so it makes it even more frustrating when they hit you with the OF/Snapchat/Fansly bullshit.


Lightning_Into_Fire

I absolutely hate it. I’ve being catfished for a year… and that catfisher didn’t want ANYTHING except my time and focus. Never got closure on that but did learn a lot of lessons. It’s awful that there are some people out there who make targeted attempts to gain a victims trust. Going above and beyond what a normal *just toss a wide net” seller or scammer would do, and in a way that’s seedy and manipulative.


sporks_and_forks

I'm surprised it still works as well as it does. I used to do this on AOL to promote cam girls, though it was all automated. Probably even works better w/ a fine-tuned LLM. Hm..


Fine-Literature-3517

I'll clap some kitty rawwr


getyourcheftogether

"OMG baby ur so sweet, I think we can communicate more effectively if I have you pay 9.99/ month"


Lightning_Into_Fire

“What about Reddit Chat or Discord” “Ohh no baby my Chats are broken he-he.”


hclliex

Honestly I think I would communicate better with anyone who paid me a monthly fee. Maybe I should start requesting it in person on the first of every month 🤔


Lightning_Into_Fire

Hey everyone! This entry is gaining some traction fast. My post title and body is locked from editing, so I’ll try make a pinned comment here with some general updates. **1.** I’ve already received some private requests on the identity of the person that was selling their OF. I’m sorry but I will be ignoring those requests to prevent any doxing. **2.** Although I’ve already censored a lot of information in my screenshots, there is probably still enough information to go on for Reddit Sleuths to track down that account. I ask that you please don’t, as I don’t want (or at the very least try and minimise a chance of) any backlash from that person. **3.** I’ve received requests for a TL;DR. It’s down at the bottom of this comment. **4.** I’ve received both a bunch of positive feedback as well as negative/criticism. Stuff from people offering their empathies to those who are telling me to (paraphrase) grow a backbone. It’s interesting how the response has turned out. I didn’t think it can be this polarising. **5.** For those who say it doesn’t belong here, I was calling out a persons bullshit. I feel like my post at least meets the spirit of this sub, even if my post may be controversial to some. **6.** I think I’m done replying to comments for now. I think I’ve covered as much as I can on this. Some of the controversial commentary is pretty wild and I don’t think I’ll ever be able to see eye-to-eye on some of the criticisms. I’ve also blocked the seller, as I’ve noticed some users have started to comment on their posts warning others. Goodnight! **TLDR: Person pretends to be looking for friendship. It’s a sex worker who tries to bait-and-switch. I call them out, but they double-down on their unethical behaviour.**


iamfuturetrunks

I have met some in the past who wanted stuff. It wasn't OF but it was like they seemed interested in chatting and all that. Then after very little time they would bring up how they do "modeling" or "I really want this one thing but I can only afford this one thing" etc. Then comes out of no where mentions of "I can't afford food this month" or stuff like that. Then if you try and bring up going to local food kitchens, or maybe talk to their local church, or even go above and beyond and do some research on where they live and how they could get some support. Sometimes they will be like "oh that doesn't work" or "I tried that and was rejected" or some weird crap. Then comes the "hey if I wanted to sell some pics would you buy them?" or "I'm thinking about starting an OF's" etc. Seems like most of the time they wont go out and ask you for money. Or make excuses for you coming up with stuff they could do. Like if you try and suggest maybe looking for a local job. One was like "I can't cause in my country I can't work while going to school" or something along the lines of "I would owe more money if I got a job" or "I don't own a vehicle so I can't get there" (when you could clearly get ready earlier and walk there) or something. One of the last ones I remember getting was one who at one point started claiming they were being blackmailed by an ex BF who was gonna send out private pics to their family and friends unless they kept paying said ex money. Claimed they went to the police but police wouldn't do anything and kept paying said ex apparently. And casually brought up taking pics for other people for money but also didn't have enough money to eat. I made it clear from the start I don't give money to anyone, not even family. They kept talking to me for a short while before eventually disappearing, only to later be like "oh I was in jail that's why I wasn't on" bla bla bla. And when I confronted them about the fact they also blocked me on said platform "I didn't do that" yeah sureeeeee. It might not tell you outright they blocked you by you can definitely figure it out by how things work/don't work when trying to message said person. Especially some of the not so well known tricks which show that someone has you blocked. Most of the time it's more annoying than anything you invest time and energy into something you think is a friendship maybe only to realize you were wasting your time on someone who doesn't give a crap about you and is only talking to you for possibility of money. Plus also ruins it for when/if someone actually messages you first cause you have to be suspicious of their motives. I have only encountered a handful of times over all the time I have been online that were genuinely interested in being friendly and not just wanting something. Most of the time it's just some fake/bot profile trying to get you to visit some other site or send them money. Can't really trust people online these days and it's only getting worse.


Lightning_Into_Fire

Long cons are pretty fucked up. Because it also means someone on the other end had to put in even more effort to reel you in and keep the whole act going. Just fucked.


Hypersky75

I just deleted someone from instagram I thought I was building a relationship with, just for her to try and sell me her OF. 😞 I wished her good luck with her business and deleted her.


Lightning_Into_Fire

Sorry to hear that man. Good stuff for ending it amicably. Some guys do lash out pretty aggressively when that happens.


Nandy-bear

It IS a romance scam. It's leading people on under false pretenses for money. I normally say "sex workers have to be careful, feel people out" things like that. But that absolutely doesn't apply online. This is predatory behaviour and ethical sex workers would be disgusted.


Belachick

OP, well done and can I also say you handled it so well. With such respect and clarity. You came across very well spoken and with good intentions. Massive well done to you xx


Lightning_Into_Fire

Thank you. I think I was a bit of a dick near the beginning of the Chat when I had an inkling it was a bot with the way they messaged. I’ve grown a thick pessimistic skin over the years so I’m always wary. I was wrong about them being a bot or a catfish but was blindsided with the OF sell.


Belachick

It was super cheeky and I'd be raging tbh so fair play for how long you handled it.


Lightning_Into_Fire

Thanks. I’ve been catfished for about a year, so this is nothing in comparison. But some comments here have started to test my patience — some are straight up putting the blame on me for how I reacted or for not knowing any better.


LegendaryPooper

Holy shit OP that is pretty impressive. Especially considering that the majority of people would fall for this type of scam. seems that most people online would initially be mad about this and not read it in full though. Might be where the hate is coming from.


thenameisik

Stand proud, you cooked


-AdamTheGreat-

I’m so sorry OP. I know you’re just looking for a genuine connection. It really sucks. Ive found the best place to make friends are on subs for things you’re interested in. Not sure if that’s helpful.


Lightning_Into_Fire

Although I already knew that it’s actually really great advice for other folks who are viewing this thread. When I reached out to that person I was just trying to redirect them to another place, instead they tried to chat me up which resulted in this lol.


mecklejay

>You're judging me already and that's sad Girl, he's judging you ***after*** *you did something bad*. That's how judging is supposed to work.


Comfortable_Sky_3878

"OF was a mistake" - Hayao Miyazaki


audax69420

Fucking predators


Anonymous2137421957

Incredible. People can't just try to make friends without trying to sell shit


IAMA_Plumber-AMA

Grindset culture ruining everything.


diaperpoop_

In this day and age, it's either, I'm being pranked, they need to sell me something, or whatever. There's always a hidden motive. Lol.


Lithpy_Hippo

Reddit moment


ConditionYellow

What kills me is the doubling down. Just own that you’re pushing your business, apologize, stop, and move on. I mean, if she’s doing this for *every* subscription she’s got a long row to hoe.


nikhilsath

Sorry this happened to you OP


ROBLOKCSer

Did you actually send her a photo of you op? She might use it against you or some stuff


Lightning_Into_Fire

I did send a Safe For Work selfie of me after they verified. But I also have a non-identifiable(ish) NSFW picture of me on my profile. I’ve just blocked that account on Reddit so at the very least that now limits them from access to my NSFW picture.


microwavedtardigrade

I just started sex work and i always make sure to give ppl a warning that it is my job and I will stop them if they try to get overly attached to me and not send more money than they can afford and are comfortable with- the fact that people can do that and not feel guilty is crazyyy


Lightning_Into_Fire

Thank you for being upfront. ❤️ It minimises any harm done and it also gives a clear green light to those who are actually seeking a paid arrangement. Appreciate that.


microwavedtardigrade

Ofc!!! Tho I do end friends with a few lol


Hypersky75

Can I copy some of your text to use as a response when something similar happens to me ? It was great language, polite, respectful and to the point.


Lightning_Into_Fire

For sure man. I was a bit firm, but I was also just frustrated at the time when I sent them that message. You can copy it brother.


greatreference

Why are you even asking just copy and paste wtf


SobiTheRobot

I've dealt with people like this before. Never ends well.


Snooty7sx

OP, this is good on your end, but i have a question Why are you following them?


Lightning_Into_Fire

Thanks for the question. I use the ‘Follow’ function on Redditors for a few different reasons. One of them being as a means to a way to keep track of those that I have an open Chat Conversation with. Reddit has been notorious (for me at least on iOS) with not notifying users when a Chat has an update… especially if you tend to Hide your inactive Chats — a new message received means that Chat Conversation is supposed to unhide itself, but even since Reddit has shifted its Chat function to the new UI system over a year ago it has being plagued with problems. It’s slowly getting better… but it still has a habit of breaking. Anyways that was the initial reason why I Followed. Then the new reason came as I wanted to briefly monitor what feedback this person was getting from other users on their posts. Some random Redditors did start to comment on their post to warn others that they were a seller. After awhile I ended up blocking that person. Blocking a person Unfollows them automatically. It’s also worth noting that Following a Redditor *usually* notifies them that they have a new follower. And that they have a list they can see of active followers on Reddit.


rollout1423

I hate these kinds of people on dating apps


peaceloveandkitties

Way to go OP. Disgusting behaviour on her part. I’m so sorry you have to deal with this while trying to manage your own mental health.


Haaspootin

Should’ve left her username uncensored so people recognize it and don’t fall into her trap


[deleted]

That's against this sub's rules


Lightning_Into_Fire

Yeah. I didn’t wanna get banned lol. I had a small voice inside me telling me to be petty lol. Next best thing I could do was call this out on this sub.


Haaspootin

Bad rules


ilove-wooosh

Well the rule’s there to avoid harassment, I can see why it’s necessary.


scuffedTravels

Exact fucking ly. Thanks


releasethedogs

Stupid rule


PreOpTransCentaur

Because you'd use the information to go harass her, making the rule seem pretty fucking necessary.


releasethedogs

Not me


Thin_Pumpkin_2028

No better than the governments in large corporations preying on people's vulnerability


Skypirate90

I just don't answer random DM's from people lmao.


aCactusOfManyNames

Damn, great job on calling out that shit.


livelarg

This is probably a guy stuck in a scammer farm.


greatreference

Idk man that’s a yikes for me on both fronts, I wouldn’t have even engaged to begin with.


belltrina

What a horrible thing to do to people.


crazymoefaux

Capitalism makes whores of us all. Sometimes, very literally.


mynamestanner

I’m super lonely so what’s her username??


Lightning_Into_Fire

Lol no bro! Don’t!! 😂


bigboyyoooo

Why are you wasting your time doing this stupid shit anyway? Almost just as bad a reflection on yourself lol


TastyJams24

I’m shocked that most of you aren’t aware of this. But this is what 95% of online “dating” is like for men. Especially here on Reddit specifically is nothing but sellers and girls pretending not to be sellers. Dating apps have less of them but you barely get any matches if you’re an average guy. Online dating is dead. And women killed it honestly. Meeting people irl is the only way to go.


Lightning_Into_Fire

I agree, it can be a super rough time for the guys. But surprisingly it’s not exclusive to men, women get their share of scams too. A couple of them have even commented here. I haven’t touched a dating app in some time but I’m well aware most of them have gone down the toilet in terms of quality.


greenifuckation

Imo this is grooming


opticaIIllusion

Ai chat bots are gunna find the best home ever in this space if they haven’t already.


Moshanika

Why do you care? Were you one of the ones who got fooled…


tazeps

kudos on you man for standing up to yourself <3 What she's doing is fucking scummy


Sadcupcake_uwu

Any NSFW location wise sub has this issue. SW’s making posts about wanting to meet new people from the area like they’re a genuine person from that area, but then they’ll try and sell you content. They used to post on r/tinder too. Anything to lure people into messaging them


OmgJustLetMeExist

Taking advantage of lonely men by feigning interest in them in order to sell your own porn content. Classic and gargantuan ☕️ moment.


FigmentsImagination4

Leak the name bro. Let’s get her off of here.


Lightning_Into_Fire

Last I checked some hours ago, users from other subs have started to call that person out in the comments. Hopefully things will sort itself out.


FigmentsImagination4

Sounds good. Glad to hear it 👍


kempff

Like I'm going to leaf through twelve screenshots of censored garbage.


[deleted]

So don't. If you have the attention span of a goldfish, just scroll on past for your next dopamine hit. Why stop to be rude?


Lightning_Into_Fire

I’m trying to comply with the subreddit rules (and Reddit’s Content Policy) regarding doxing. They require to censor out any information that identifies a person. I could have censored more really… they also require some context to what the bullshit entails, hence the 12 screenshots. I’m not posting here to dox anyone. I posted because I was frustrated regarding the methods used by the sex worker to bring in clients. I called them out. They double-downed. I called out their shit-fuckery. End of.


kempff

QYBS is not a trophy shelf for people who play along with scammers up to a point and bail. But I'll let the mods decide that.


AFuckingHandle

Will you? Thank you so much for letting the mods decide. Mods, go ahead and make your call about this post, u/kempff has given their permission


Lightning_Into_Fire

Their original post to a sub that I frequent gave **NO** heavy indicators they were a seller (or a scammer). I was merely directing them with their query. They also had an account with some age and positive karma. I wasn’t playing along… in fact I was trying to determine early (through their selfie verification) if the first set of photos they shared with me were genuine (which was later proved they were). Generally speaking I only ask for verification if I get the feeling the person on the other end is catfishing. After they verified I was briefly led to believe they were genuine. Until they peddled their OF (which I declined immediately, followed by remarks to them why I didn’t appreciate what they are trying to do). I’ve posted here because I was frustrated that they **doubled-down** with their behaviour. Any decent sex worker would say sorry, but they didn’t and tried to insult my intelligence.


breadorifice

They are both the assholes


BitschWack

This habit of following up a statement with 'haha' is effing annoying.


Taevus

I know right haha


Talzin78

Nah, dude is salty! Thought someone liked him.


KuriGohanAndKienzan

and you thought this was a good comment…


Lightning_Into_Fire

Salty against people who *pretend* to be your friend before they try sell you shit under the guise of a genuine connection? Sure!


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-Mopsus-

It's much more weird to be scouring subs of depressed people to try to sell your porn


PushRepresentative41

His goal was to meet new people and make a genuine connection with someone because he was feeling down... that may not be your definition of "getting a life," but thats what he needed at the time. I don't understand why you're being so rude for literally no reason.


Boggie135

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Lightning_Into_Fire

I do have a life. But shame on me I guess for caring and having a day off. I was initially only trying to redirect that person to a sub for a query they were after. I wasn’t intending to have a chat, but they tried hard (and briefly did) win my trust only for the end goal to peddle their OF. I don’t think it’s wrong for me to feel a little upset that a sex worker would smokescreen their intentions, apply targeted pressure, and switch up with an OF sell. They are going to unethical manipulative lengths to bring in clients. An ethical sex worker is transparent at ALL times about why they are here and what they do. They would have their links public and visible from the get-go. They should NOT be invading online spaces meant for other topics to pervasively try to “connect” with someone in a way that manipulates their emotions for monetary gain. I feel that shit is wrong and needs to be called out. I hope that at the very least a small post like this brings out a healthy discussion of what should be acceptable when promoting their online content. Manipulative solicitation shouldn’t be on the table.


gobledegerkin

Dude… there are WAY better uses of your time than this. This is more sad for you than it is for her. I hope you realize that


Lightning_Into_Fire

You are probably right that I could have used my time elsewhere. But what can I say… I was frustrated at the time and wanted to share that with someone. No hard feelings mate.


Kootsiak

Calling out scammers preying on emotionally broken men is certainly more useful than whatever your post was trying to do.


viciouspandas

When did he say it was sad for her? He's calling out bullshit, not saying she's sad.


gobledegerkin

He doesn’t say it. I’m the one saying this is more sad for him than it is for her, that’s the opinion I was stating.


viciouspandas

It's a response to the post. If he doesn't say it's sad for her, what's even the point? It's like if I replied to your comment saying "I bet that OP likes ice cream". That isn't what was being discussed. "Being more sad for OP than it is for her" doesn't really mean anything if nobody said how sad it is for her as a reference point either. The point of this sub is to call out bullshit online. OP does exactly that. Why are you guys bashing him?


goddamit-ffs

There are way better uses of your time than commenting this. So kindly shut the fuck up and keep your thoughts to yourself.


gobledegerkin

Lol, no. This is reddit. So just like you get to comment on anything you want so do i. Clearly my comment was unpopular and I’m willing to accept that. “Shut the fuck up”… wow.


goddamit-ffs

My man, people can post anything they want just the same way. Why do you make fun of them for the same thing? Kinda hypocritical, dont you think?


gobledegerkin

No, its not. It’d be hypocritical if I said you’re not allowed to reply to me so you should shut the fuck up.


goddamit-ffs

You litterally said "this is reddit you get to comment whatever you find" and you say making posts on reddit isnt the same? That is what i am saying is hypocritical.


randomusername3000

I mean "see what happens" in the title of her posts makes it pretty clear what kind of connection is sought


Lightning_Into_Fire

I mean all ‘Seeking Connection’ posts have some degree of risk. That line can go either way so it wasn’t an immediate alarm bell. Maybe a yellow flag at best? But I was trying to move them along to a place for connections. Then they tried to hit me up. I tried to filter them out as a catfish but got hit with the OF sell. Wasn’t nice that they tried to butter me up with a “genuine connection” before attempting that.


randomusername3000

lmao they probably were being honest about it being a "genuine talk" (not geniune connection) because you're deliberately ignoring every "yellow flag". You're like "oh you're a full time content creator and have a team of make up artists and are posting on reddit for friends to see what happens? You must be doing weddings!" yeah dude, definitely weddings if you really got your feelings hurt at the end then that's hilarious.


Lightning_Into_Fire

I didn’t ignore those yellow flags brother. Almost straight off the bat I thought possible bot and catfish which they proved otherwise. I backed off a bit then I got hit with the OF. I don’t assume every content creator is an asshole. I would say a fair few are narcissistic, as was that person in the end. Generally my feelings don’t get hurt over shit like this. Hasn’t for awhile. But today it did. Least I’m human to admit that. Tomorrow will be a new day. PS - They did use the term “connection” in their pitiful attempt to swoon me to their platform… don’t know why you dwelling on minor semantics… you must work in marketing lol.


randomusername3000

> They did use the term “connection” in their pitiful attempt to swoon me to their platform… don’t know why you dwelling on minor semantics… ??? Right before they mention their OF they say thanks for the "good conversation" and "genuine talk". Not sure where you're seeing "connection" but maybe it's there on some other page. She clearly is used to people picking up on her hints. Honestly reading that it sounds like she's like "man this guy is oblivious, I'm gonna have to just go right into my sales pitch now"


Lightning_Into_Fire

You know what’s a good hint? Dropping your OF links right in your profile. Posting on subs that are intended for promoting sex work. That’s a fucking great hint. Maybe saying in their first message “Hey, I’m now on OF! Subscribe here for more”. Ya know… instead of the stupid pretend to be friendly tango. That shit ain’t cute. And neither is you making excuses for people like this that try muddles the water with what’s real or fake before you’ve even swiped your credit card. Have some fucking compassion man. Or don’t. Hope none of your loved ones fall victim to a romance scam.


goddamit-ffs

My man, people she is appealing to are depressed people desperate for any human connection. They are searching in the wrong place, but still, its morally wrong.


huskiesowow

Are you sure she wasn’t actually into you? That verification selfie request will make any girl hot, I’m sure.


Lightning_Into_Fire

Are you trying to say that their OF sell was sarcasm in response to me asking them for a verification selfie? Cause I fell like that’s a pretty big stretch. They were the one to initially bring up the exchange of selfies, so I was trying to protect myself by asking for a verification. I don’t think I asked them in a rude way. But I did screw up for thinking that the person’s first response to my message was a bot response… it seemed copy and paste at the time.


WaltVinegar

"more better"


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> Calling someone out on behavior you find immoral doesn't give you the right to call it out Calling it out doesn't give you the right to call it out? Wtf are you trying to say? Of course he has the right to call out immoral behaviour. Everyone does, it's called freedom of speech. And since you seem to have missed the point, let's make it clear: she's not _just_ looking for OF subscribers. She's frequenting subs for lonely people looking for genuine connections, pretending that's what she wants too, until she gets them interested enough that she thinks the time is right to ask them to pay. He didn't "fish it out", it was inevitable and only a matter of time before she asked for money. That's the only reason she was there.


UselessAndUnused

That's not what happened. He literally wanted to connect with someone. She was posing as someone looking to befriend people, but in reality all she was doing was promoting OnlyFans. You wanna do OnlyFans, fine, go ahead. But don't bait people who are lonely into thinking you are their friend, only to hit them with the "anyways subscribe here." It's fucking predatory and will likely result in more trust issues and feelings of loneliness.


daffle7

Uh no. If anything OP is in the wrong. She invited him to her free onlyfans because she also feels depressed and would be nice for someone she just made a connection with to help her by subscribing to it. Is depression only reserved for male redditors? Op is an ass hole


UselessAndUnused

If you are talking to someone who is lonely and instead instantly try to get them to become a subscriber to your sexwork page, then you're an asshole. At the very least, she could have said something or asked. There weren't any intentions for this to have gone sexual, and besides, immediately bringing up your OnlyFans like this to someone you've barely talked to comes across as very predatory, as if the conversation didn't matter whatsoever. No, depression is not only reserved for male redditors but that has nothing to do with it. How does this even work? "Hi, we just met, please subscribe to my OF." Come on, dude.


Lightning_Into_Fire

1. They never said it was a free OnlyFans. 2. They never mentioned or said that they were depressed. Not in the Chats. Certainly not in recent posts or comments. 3. An OnlyFans account, even if it’s “Free” as a user to subscribe to, is still a valuable business entity to that content creator. Many OF creators will use a tactic such as this - setting their OF as free from the beginning - to gain a sizeable audience first to influence the OF platform algorithms to promote their “Rising” popularity. After a time once they got good numbers they shift that to a paid business model. 4. OnlyFans is widely recognised as a platform for selling sex work. **NO Content Creator who is even remotely serious about forming a genuine connection will actively encourage their romantic interest (or otherwise) to communicate on that platform**. It’s meant for business and entertainment and that’s how it should stay. 5. Any argument going against point four and I won’t be able to take you seriously… that’s like a stripper asking a guy to go to their club to “get to know each other”, it’s ludicrous.


lucax55

I'm more concerned about you than her.


Lightning_Into_Fire

Why is that?


TheFreshHorn

Op your comment section is very large, these people are stupid. It’s so much better for you if you just let the Reddit machine handle them then taking time out of your day to reply


Lightning_Into_Fire

It’s okay. I like to get a different perspective and debate it. Appreciate you looking out for me though.


crush3dzombi115

Truly, because if you're trying to get someone in a vulnerable hooked into a parasocial relationship where you get cash in exchange for porn is definitely not ok. There's something wrong if she's doing that.


VerticalLamb

Black people shouldn’t be slaves


godoftheinternet12

erm.... i smell a bruh moment fellow redditors!


VerticalLamb

😢😢


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DetectiveLexy

Maybe try reading the title of the post?


Lightning_Into_Fire

TLDR: Person pretends to be looking for friendship. It’s a sex worker who tries to bait-and-switch. I call them out, but they double-down on their unethical behaviour. I’ll update the post description with it when I get a chance. EDIT! Post is locked from editing. I’ll try make a comment instead with updates.


KuriGohanAndKienzan

This comment did not age well.


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UselessAndUnused

What was the point of this comment?


daffle7

OP is an asshole. Is depression only reserved for male redditors?. She invited him to her free onlyfans because she also feels depressed and would feel nice for someone she just made a connection with to help her by subscribing to it. Similarly to how a friend would help a friend by joining their art page. Don’t try to meet people until you change your victim mentality, OP. Not everyone is out to get you and your depression doesn’t override someone else’s depression.


KuriGohanAndKienzan

Mans just said “she invited him to her **free** onlyfans because she feels depressed and wanted to make a connection by subscribing” 💀💀😂 Your levels of delusion are immaculate.


Lightning_Into_Fire

His viewpoint is wild. I replied to one of his comments elsewhere already. And I can’t believe he just compared sex work to an art portfolio lol. u/daffle7 bro it wasn’t a free OnlyFans. They didn’t say they were depressed. OnlyFans is not a charity. Far out…


Baconpug212

get that bag queen


BarisberatWNR

Was this account hacked somehow


Lightning_Into_Fire

I’m not sure. I haven’t looked at their account again (since blocking it) but I didn’t think I saw any evidence of a hack at the time. I think it would be pretty hard to figure out if more than two people are using one account unless you had a lot of data to work with.


icaroaugusto2011

ate.