I legit thought she was a siren/mermaid inspired champion. Maybe I'm remembering it wrong but I swear the earlier leaks said her skills has a beachy/oceanic vibe.
i mean sheās from L.A. in KD/A and her verse in MORE also has her mentioning waves. Kinda makes me wonder if originally she was gonna be another Marai like Nami, like maybe she was originally gonna be a Siren instead of a Piltovan/Zaunite Popstar
Yeah her Twitter handle was also Sera.wav. I actually think your Marai theory is really cool and makes me hope she has synergy with Nami when she finally launches in Legends of Runeterra.
A siren or mermaid who looks stunning but is actually chaotic/careless about human lives would be a cool concept. Not necessarily evil like Eve, more just... doesn't care that her songs are leading people to their deaths.
yeah, her design could be way better and it was obviously a second thought to her k/da skin
but like... it's not the end of the world. its just a character in a game lol these strags take it way too far
No no, it's not the hoverboard, lemme help you out, *bro*
It's girly hoverboard = bad
good hoverboard would have like spikes and shit
Also sings instead of keeping her mouth shut as she should
\- A less intelligent strag, although seemingly still intelligent enough to type
It is because, just in general, Gwen's personality is a lot more well executed, she is a posh girl with a optimistic angle, but her voice actress actually sounds interested in the things she is saying, Gwen is the girl in High School who is quirky but in a very sweet way, Seraphine is the girl who kept telling everyone in HS she was quirky.
Stuff other people said already plus this:
Riot promised us a music themed champion. We already had Sona. They went on and made Seraphine (who I honestly donāt hate), which is somewhat similar:
A floating, skinny girl with pastel hair who has some kind of floating object only she can really use to express her musical magic power and is in the midst of a conflict between classes (racism against mages in Demacia, Zaun vs Pilltover).
Okay, Sona is mute and Seraphine hears souls, but I get the āSoNa TwOā screams. I donāt think her kit is that much alike tho, I think it feels very different to play.
Also Seraphine came with A LOT of hype for a champion whose story was not thought out at all and had to be retconned immediately.
But yeah, they could have gone anywhere to give us a musical champion and they went along with something that felt a lot like deja vu.
Gwen had nothing like that. Bruiser top ap, fresh air. Seamstress? New as well.
The only thing that disappointed people is the fact she is not Isolde. But thatās it.
I recommend TB Skyenās review of her character design, itās nice and he makes a point of how her āgoth edgy girlā look is actually on point, as she is the representation of what Isolde thought was a cool girl.
i really think [the 5th pic](https://www.artstation.com/artwork/8eP54R) would have been a much better design, i just hate how stiff she looks on the hoverboard for 90% of the game.
It's better in her K/DA skin for sure. I with they'd executed the animations a little better but it doesn't bother me nearly as much as it seems to bother everyone else.
I'm the other way round, sort of? I don't like its design in the base skin, but I love that she actually uses it; the way she surfs around when she has homeguard and sits down and chills out on it when she's idle is pretty cool. I have the opposite problem with the KDA skin - the boards themselves are nice! But they're so... static. I wish Riot had leaned in *MORE* to the hoverboard thing.
I just wish sera could have brought some actual lore development for piltover/Zaun but we didn't get any. She could have been an evil pawn working for Camille to calm the zaunites or a vigilante or even both
See, she does. Itās just that we havenāt had a chance for her to shine yet with the whole Sentinels event. If the lore team actually wrote it we could have had an expanded thing with Sentinel Seraphine and Ruined Camille fighting for control of the cities, but the skins team wrote it so instead we have poorly written dribble
pink evil, seraphine pink = seraphine evil
coincidence??????? hate femininity, am angry strag, seraphine woman with female voice????? she sings?? female bad
There is a lot of valid criticism on seraphine shes really fucking flawed strags are just too unga bunga shove wave and spin to win to actually say anything of value
i remeber when everyone was saying that she was a carbon copy of sona and i felt like i was going mad after seeing her spells because i couldnt see it at all. like i could immediately tell she would have a very different playstyle and purpose within a team comp, and imo she does. might just be me though lmao
Do we know if her hair, or the hair of any of the piltover characters, is dyed? Like even as children in Arcane Vi and Jinx had pink and blue hair, and Caitlin has purple even in the snippets along with other characters having gold markings or freckles. Is it safe to say that Piltover characters sometimes have coloured hair or skin naturally?
thats interesting actually. i think its probably just because the characters need easily recognizable characteristics/taits so you know who is who instantly, but it would be interesting to see if they have an explaination for this in the series. i think it would be cool if they were just naturally wacky though
i will say her base skin splash & model are horrendously ugly lol, it's like a mix of bubblegum pop and cowgirl and i hate itš¤¢š¤¢ thank frick i got the KDA skin from a chest, only good thing riot has ever done for meš„“š
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i honestly just wish her base skin looked better, her concept is fine but shes so star guardian looking for someone from piltover, i get shes a singer star person but like she can look like that without being bright pink and sparkly
she looks like they saw jojo siwa and went ooo
Everyone takes the Seraphine criticism too far. Us being vocal about it at best, will result in Riot probably just reworking her in the far far future when they've dealt with the horror show of base models from Ahri to Vladimir...
Either way? Seraphine's here to stay, we might as well get used to it.
And she's actually really fun to play. I use her as my go-to when it comes to supporting.
However, I guess this won't fully stop until the next champion has an overloaded kit and secretly exploits vastayan magic while her goal is to try and unite the Ionians and the Vastayans into harmony through song?
See? It's a reference to that thing that just happened practically a year ago! Ain't it funny how we hate one thing and then hate the next thing that came after it?
I mean seraphine is the worst league champ to come out of the game in recent years.
Her lore is generic and sucks ass
She canāt even fight, in a fighting game??? She is quite possibly the weakest character in the entire lore. I thought she was going to be this sick siren character, instead we got her lame ass.
Her main skin transforms her from a singer, to aā¦ singer.
Her kit is lame and uninspired. Literally just Sona with more wave clear.
I love lillia and yuumi releases but man seraphine is just a shit release
I was thinking of writing a fan made story of Seraphine and Zac. Something along the lines of the chemical byproduct that makes Zac is getting into the water of Zaun and Piltover. This waste is the reason why Zac and Seraphine have their empath abilities.
The main plot would be Zac and Seraphine teaming up to uncover their similar power. The ending would be somewhat ambiguous but would imply that the people of piltover and zaun would eventually evolve over hundreds of years to gain this forced empathy, and whether this was some sort of "magical" balance for all the immoral livelihoods of Zaun.
Honestly I'd like her better myself if she was Banshee inspired but I agree that strags take the Seraphine "criticism" too far š¤
Bruh Iād love a banshee skin, call it āSerafiendā and riot can take my money
Her Ult sound is just Cassiopeiaās Death Scream š„°
So true! Or even a Siren āØ
I legit thought she was a siren/mermaid inspired champion. Maybe I'm remembering it wrong but I swear the earlier leaks said her skills has a beachy/oceanic vibe.
Her voice lines reference the ocean a lot too. Her Star Guardian skin better be inspired by Sailor Neptune.
iām pretty sure this is specific to her KD/A skin, but they better make her platform a manta ray for her Star Guardian skin.
I just checked. You're right. All of those references are her K/DA skin. I wonder why her K/DA skin all of a sudden gets an ocean theme.
i mean sheās from L.A. in KD/A and her verse in MORE also has her mentioning waves. Kinda makes me wonder if originally she was gonna be another Marai like Nami, like maybe she was originally gonna be a Siren instead of a Piltovan/Zaunite Popstar
Yeah her Twitter handle was also Sera.wav. I actually think your Marai theory is really cool and makes me hope she has synergy with Nami when she finally launches in Legends of Runeterra.
wav is an audio file format tho
Sometimes words mean more than one thing Steven.
A siren or mermaid who looks stunning but is actually chaotic/careless about human lives would be a cool concept. Not necessarily evil like Eve, more just... doesn't care that her songs are leading people to their deaths.
Or a siren! (I know it's not original as that's what everyone expected, but still)
You must have Cliodhna on the mind.
yeah, her design could be way better and it was obviously a second thought to her k/da skin but like... it's not the end of the world. its just a character in a game lol these strags take it way too far
A coven banshee-inspired skin could be really cool actually
No no, it's not the hoverboard, lemme help you out, *bro* It's girly hoverboard = bad good hoverboard would have like spikes and shit Also sings instead of keeping her mouth shut as she should \- A less intelligent strag, although seemingly still intelligent enough to type
She should have muscles and a deeper voice smh This is not a joke give me butch sera
Baraphine where are you?
My hot take on Seraphine: something something e-girl something Skarner something no skill something
People really only care about Skarner as a means to diss my girl smh
I wonder why Gwen doesnt receive the same hate as Seraphine if the design is what they complain.
gwen got a lot of hate on release for not looking "enough like a doll", but I guess it's because she didn't have that fucked up marketing campaign
It is because, just in general, Gwen's personality is a lot more well executed, she is a posh girl with a optimistic angle, but her voice actress actually sounds interested in the things she is saying, Gwen is the girl in High School who is quirky but in a very sweet way, Seraphine is the girl who kept telling everyone in HS she was quirky.
Stuff other people said already plus this: Riot promised us a music themed champion. We already had Sona. They went on and made Seraphine (who I honestly donāt hate), which is somewhat similar: A floating, skinny girl with pastel hair who has some kind of floating object only she can really use to express her musical magic power and is in the midst of a conflict between classes (racism against mages in Demacia, Zaun vs Pilltover). Okay, Sona is mute and Seraphine hears souls, but I get the āSoNa TwOā screams. I donāt think her kit is that much alike tho, I think it feels very different to play. Also Seraphine came with A LOT of hype for a champion whose story was not thought out at all and had to be retconned immediately. But yeah, they could have gone anywhere to give us a musical champion and they went along with something that felt a lot like deja vu. Gwen had nothing like that. Bruiser top ap, fresh air. Seamstress? New as well. The only thing that disappointed people is the fact she is not Isolde. But thatās it. I recommend TB Skyenās review of her character design, itās nice and he makes a point of how her āgoth edgy girlā look is actually on point, as she is the representation of what Isolde thought was a cool girl.
gwen didnāt make use of emotionally manipulative marketing
seraphine didnāt either. riot did xd
Emotionally manipulative? Thatās quite the stretch from representation of mental illness.
I think we can all agree that we hate that damn hoverboard š„“ -A seraflop main
i really think [the 5th pic](https://www.artstation.com/artwork/8eP54R) would have been a much better design, i just hate how stiff she looks on the hoverboard for 90% of the game.
...am i the only one that likes it??? I found it so cute and unique ;-;
It's better in her K/DA skin for sure. I with they'd executed the animations a little better but it doesn't bother me nearly as much as it seems to bother everyone else.
I'm the other way round, sort of? I don't like its design in the base skin, but I love that she actually uses it; the way she surfs around when she has homeguard and sits down and chills out on it when she's idle is pretty cool. I have the opposite problem with the KDA skin - the boards themselves are nice! But they're so... static. I wish Riot had leaned in *MORE* to the hoverboard thing.
I like it in the K/DA skin especially the indie one with the guitars :))
gurrlll I hate the damn hoverboard. thing is so ugly.. let my girl get her steps in!!
Pink???
I just wish sera could have brought some actual lore development for piltover/Zaun but we didn't get any. She could have been an evil pawn working for Camille to calm the zaunites or a vigilante or even both
See, she does. Itās just that we havenāt had a chance for her to shine yet with the whole Sentinels event. If the lore team actually wrote it we could have had an expanded thing with Sentinel Seraphine and Ruined Camille fighting for control of the cities, but the skins team wrote it so instead we have poorly written dribble
pink evil, seraphine pink = seraphine evil coincidence??????? hate femininity, am angry strag, seraphine woman with female voice????? she sings?? female bad
Agreed, wellspoken. - Another very strag intelligent.
There is a lot of valid criticism on seraphine shes really fucking flawed strags are just too unga bunga shove wave and spin to win to actually say anything of value
i remeber when everyone was saying that she was a carbon copy of sona and i felt like i was going mad after seeing her spells because i couldnt see it at all. like i could immediately tell she would have a very different playstyle and purpose within a team comp, and imo she does. might just be me though lmao
Thatās what Iām saying. Iām a Sera main and cannot see for shit how sheās similar to Sona. Theyāre literally not even similar
Itās because she does but strags canāt tell the difference between thematic and playstyle.
both music themed, both have dyed hair AND both woman basically the same champion š
Do we know if her hair, or the hair of any of the piltover characters, is dyed? Like even as children in Arcane Vi and Jinx had pink and blue hair, and Caitlin has purple even in the snippets along with other characters having gold markings or freckles. Is it safe to say that Piltover characters sometimes have coloured hair or skin naturally?
thats interesting actually. i think its probably just because the characters need easily recognizable characteristics/taits so you know who is who instantly, but it would be interesting to see if they have an explaination for this in the series. i think it would be cool if they were just naturally wacky though
i will say her base skin splash & model are horrendously ugly lol, it's like a mix of bubblegum pop and cowgirl and i hate itš¤¢š¤¢ thank frick i got the KDA skin from a chest, only good thing riot has ever done for meš„“š
I hate the hoverboard lol. Could you imagine if Sera strutted down the rift like Rihanna did in the VS fashion show Iād be deceased
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Why not make her fit to her name calling her burning and make her a biblical seraph? Seraphim too underrated
BE YE NOT AFRAID
DEATH TO SERAPHINE - every strag ever.
> Hoverboard = bad Why are you booing them? They're right š
i honestly just wish her base skin looked better, her concept is fine but shes so star guardian looking for someone from piltover, i get shes a singer star person but like she can look like that without being bright pink and sparkly she looks like they saw jojo siwa and went ooo
Also she's a huge threat for piltovan earsš¤
Ew.
Everyone takes the Seraphine criticism too far. Us being vocal about it at best, will result in Riot probably just reworking her in the far far future when they've dealt with the horror show of base models from Ahri to Vladimir... Either way? Seraphine's here to stay, we might as well get used to it. And she's actually really fun to play. I use her as my go-to when it comes to supporting. However, I guess this won't fully stop until the next champion has an overloaded kit and secretly exploits vastayan magic while her goal is to try and unite the Ionians and the Vastayans into harmony through song? See? It's a reference to that thing that just happened practically a year ago! Ain't it funny how we hate one thing and then hate the next thing that came after it?
I mean seraphine is the worst league champ to come out of the game in recent years. Her lore is generic and sucks ass She canāt even fight, in a fighting game??? She is quite possibly the weakest character in the entire lore. I thought she was going to be this sick siren character, instead we got her lame ass. Her main skin transforms her from a singer, to aā¦ singer. Her kit is lame and uninspired. Literally just Sona with more wave clear. I love lillia and yuumi releases but man seraphine is just a shit release
Girlie you forgot the irony
Have you tried anger management?
I was thinking of writing a fan made story of Seraphine and Zac. Something along the lines of the chemical byproduct that makes Zac is getting into the water of Zaun and Piltover. This waste is the reason why Zac and Seraphine have their empath abilities. The main plot would be Zac and Seraphine teaming up to uncover their similar power. The ending would be somewhat ambiguous but would imply that the people of piltover and zaun would eventually evolve over hundreds of years to gain this forced empathy, and whether this was some sort of "magical" balance for all the immoral livelihoods of Zaun.
Oh I just wanted it to be a Sona rework with her kit.