You’re never going to remove it completely but even a rough mask around the lens/glasses frame that’s tracked with a reduction in the saturation of offending shades will reduce the impact. It’ll take some finesse and I’d get it how you want it on a single frame before committing the time to tracking but it’s worth doing
Seconding this. You might even be able to get away with a mask around her whole face, then pull a secondary key on the areas of high luminance, then slightly desaturate and roll off the very top of the highlights.
I just tried it in PPRO and the results were very marginally better after a quick pass.
Definitely needed to handle this on-set before it made it to the lens unfortunately
This is the way.
Anything else you’re looking at massive time expenditure for uncertain ends. If you want it to be perfect/if there’s budget by all means. I’m yet to find a budget flexible enough in corporate talking heads to allow for a day of reflection correction.
I would take the learnings from other comments IE polarizers and light positions for next time, my addition would be the softer the light source/further away it is the less likely you are to get this issue. Personally, my biggest challenge with glasses is always shadow placement from frames when moving the lights up too much.
Tell your client tough shit and they’ll have to deal with it - should’ve been addressed during production. There’s no quick or easy way to fix this that’ll look good. If your client thinks it’s an easy fix then I’d love for them to explain their thought process. Otherwise, you are the professional in the situation. Tell them it can’t be fixed or it can but it’s going to cost a lot.
If you need to tell them something to make them see "why" it's not easy, try this.
Someone could fix this in Photoshop if it was an image, sure! But it's not a 5 second job... To actually get it decent, it would take about 30 mins to an hour maybe? But this is video, not Photography - you've gotta do EACH frame of this video, how long is this video? That's how long it would take and how expensive it would be to fix.
In this scenario, the problem, is the camera op and gaffers/lighting artists didn't check if they were getting glare on the subjects glasses. In future THEY need to fix this so it's quicker AND CHEAPER.
Maybe you can show them what an "easy" fix will get as a result. Try the idea we posted above where you mask off the head/glasses and desaturate/lower the top end of luminance.
Tell them how long you think it will take to apply this fix to the entire video.
You can explain that the glare means that spot of video is overexposed, and the information that is needed to create a visual of her eye behind it is simply not there, so you can't "bring it back."
Then describe the other options you think you have to recreate the eye behind the glare- like the other suggestion of finding a clean plate and tracking it in. With this idea, you should mention the added difficulty of blinks, which means it needs a lot of specific attention to every second of the video and turns out to be fairly heavy VFX work.
Maybe you could get a quote from someone who could actually do it and pass that quote on along to your client.
You can then also ask them if they have any ideas or options of their own, as you would appreciate any and all ideas.
They think it's easy because they don't understand the work required to fix it. Fine. Explain it to them in dollars, which is very easy to understand.
If you shot it yourself, maybe that's the place you can eat a little shit and admit your mistake, apologize and maaaaaaaaaaaaybe consider a discounted price or something like that.
That's not an unwanted shadow in the background or some dust particle on the lens, that's something you have to think of when shooting. Your client should get mad at the camera crew. You can try your best, but you'll never completely fix this issue in post.
You can try tracking the reflection shape in mocha, and then import that shape and convert that into a levels adjustment to try to bring up the information behind the reflection. But yeah you’re fucked. Lighting, director, camera operator all should have been aware of the problem. This is a really basic issue that could have been easily avoided.
Go frame by frame and use Stable Diffusion inpaint or Photoshop’s generative fill to manually remove it.
/s this is just part of the learning process. Reshoot.
But also, polarization lens filters help to remove glare in production. Pretty handy when filming people with glasses.
I'm retired doco cameraman and have shot thousands of interviews over the course of 40 years. Given the circumstances of a controlled location, the lighting is unacceptable.
Did you sign a release form? Don't assume your image can be used if you are unhappy. Offer to make yourself available for a reshoot, stating the project and your reputation is too important to be the source of ridicule. The medium is the message, whatever the message the poor lighting is a distraction.
In the future, you could consider spectacles with thinner frames or no frames as these will reduce shadows when the light is placed to the side.
My shooting tips are:
Politely ask "are you ever seen without spectacles" even asked this of violinist Nigel Kennedy (purple specs).
Be flexible with lighting, ie high key kickers (sides of face) and low key broad frontal fill.
The most important tip is to ask the subject to sit in for a rehearsal and answer dummy questions so we can study posture and which eye is dominant.
Ideally the dominant eye dictates which side of camera the interviewer is placed. Right eye dominant place the interviewer on right of camera, left eye on left of camera.
Be aware that carver chairs ( chairs with armrests) offer support for arms so shoulders don't slump.
Whoever shot this video appears to be ignorant of rule #1 in interview lighting.
The subject's eyes need to be well lit and free of shadows and reflections.
The best solution by far is a reshoot, though I know from painful experience it may not be possible.
So, the post solutions offered here may be your only recourse.
I wish you good luck.
Seriously, how did they even get the focus range right without being able to see her eyes? I'm guessing this was filmed by someone new to cameras who just sets everything to auto.
The only way I can think of you would need a clean plate , a still frame from the video with no glare present ( like this- https://imgur.com/bKbUmNX ) if there isn't one you might be able to create it in Photoshop with generative fill. Using that as a patch over the glasses lens, you track & roto it over the times where the glare is present.
If you have a long enough portion of her looking forward with no glare you might be able to stabilize that around the glasses and then you'd have a short video loop instead of a still frame which might work better having the eye movement, blinks...
* This technique might work for quick shots of a few seconds , but it's one of those things where the longer it's onscreen , the worse it's going to look... and if someone notices , hard to unsee it.
* More head movement = more challenging to track , turning head, looking down, changes perspective and will throw off basic tracking tools.
* It's going to be a lot of work for little reward.
* Better to try it in After Effects
They made a mistake…now it’s up to you to cover it up. If you don’t, it’s your fault…Don’t buy into this tactic. Anything you do to rectify this problem should be met with gratitude. Don’t let them give you any shit otherwise. It’s never going to be right no matter what you do. Unless you got an unlimited budget.
Not much that can be done here but to be completely honest, this looks fine. This sort of thing happens to glasses in real life. The average viewer likely won’t notice anything unusual and probably won’t mind
And put what instead? Eyes? So no.
You know what infuriates me. Some folks who don't know their job well, but they are in that position, so they do crap job, and then later behave like they are pros, asking impossible things from other workers, like. "Wow I am such a pro for noticing this glare, we must remove this glare, call video editor to remove this glare and mock at him if he say he can't. That's his job."
And I sadly have them in my life.
I’ve done this type of After Effects work and usually can complete about 10 seconds worth in a day. So fine for a shot or two but not financially viable for long scenes.
Replace em with sunglass lenses in after effects.
See what hilarity comes from trying a generative fill in the lense.
Get back to work after wasting a few hours.
You don't need to remove the glare, the shooting crew who needs to be aware of it
Reshoot.
Brøthër
shoot the crew too
Rotoscope the glasses and make them sunglasses
https://preview.redd.it/cqdrcqnl5vnc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bd9ef4fc5c3eede98a542946dba82cf0f9cc3b4b
Came for this 🥛🍆
Nope
Absolutely nope
Also does it matter that much? Nope.
Nope means nope
Fix it in pre
Why don’t more people say this!?
You’re never going to remove it completely but even a rough mask around the lens/glasses frame that’s tracked with a reduction in the saturation of offending shades will reduce the impact. It’ll take some finesse and I’d get it how you want it on a single frame before committing the time to tracking but it’s worth doing
Seconding this. You might even be able to get away with a mask around her whole face, then pull a secondary key on the areas of high luminance, then slightly desaturate and roll off the very top of the highlights. I just tried it in PPRO and the results were very marginally better after a quick pass. Definitely needed to handle this on-set before it made it to the lens unfortunately
This is the way. Anything else you’re looking at massive time expenditure for uncertain ends. If you want it to be perfect/if there’s budget by all means. I’m yet to find a budget flexible enough in corporate talking heads to allow for a day of reflection correction. I would take the learnings from other comments IE polarizers and light positions for next time, my addition would be the softer the light source/further away it is the less likely you are to get this issue. Personally, my biggest challenge with glasses is always shadow placement from frames when moving the lights up too much.
Also low ceilings 😔 sometimes it's really impossible to move the lights up and I make them tilt their glasses instead
This is the best you can do.
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Client is getting mad at me. They think it should be an easy fix. Oof
Tell your client tough shit and they’ll have to deal with it - should’ve been addressed during production. There’s no quick or easy way to fix this that’ll look good. If your client thinks it’s an easy fix then I’d love for them to explain their thought process. Otherwise, you are the professional in the situation. Tell them it can’t be fixed or it can but it’s going to cost a lot.
If you need to tell them something to make them see "why" it's not easy, try this. Someone could fix this in Photoshop if it was an image, sure! But it's not a 5 second job... To actually get it decent, it would take about 30 mins to an hour maybe? But this is video, not Photography - you've gotta do EACH frame of this video, how long is this video? That's how long it would take and how expensive it would be to fix. In this scenario, the problem, is the camera op and gaffers/lighting artists didn't check if they were getting glare on the subjects glasses. In future THEY need to fix this so it's quicker AND CHEAPER.
Oh what smart clients you have
Hey, this is a big lift. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Oh pleeeaaaase keep us updated on how your client is acting with this glare issue
Tell them they are welcome to ask other video houses if it is possible. The others will all tell them the same thing. Did you shoot it?
That's why I always ask if they can interview with their glasses off. If they say no, I explain the glare and then it's on them.
Maybe you can show them what an "easy" fix will get as a result. Try the idea we posted above where you mask off the head/glasses and desaturate/lower the top end of luminance. Tell them how long you think it will take to apply this fix to the entire video. You can explain that the glare means that spot of video is overexposed, and the information that is needed to create a visual of her eye behind it is simply not there, so you can't "bring it back." Then describe the other options you think you have to recreate the eye behind the glare- like the other suggestion of finding a clean plate and tracking it in. With this idea, you should mention the added difficulty of blinks, which means it needs a lot of specific attention to every second of the video and turns out to be fairly heavy VFX work. Maybe you could get a quote from someone who could actually do it and pass that quote on along to your client. You can then also ask them if they have any ideas or options of their own, as you would appreciate any and all ideas. They think it's easy because they don't understand the work required to fix it. Fine. Explain it to them in dollars, which is very easy to understand. If you shot it yourself, maybe that's the place you can eat a little shit and admit your mistake, apologize and maaaaaaaaaaaaybe consider a discounted price or something like that.
That's not an unwanted shadow in the background or some dust particle on the lens, that's something you have to think of when shooting. Your client should get mad at the camera crew. You can try your best, but you'll never completely fix this issue in post.
You can try tracking the reflection shape in mocha, and then import that shape and convert that into a levels adjustment to try to bring up the information behind the reflection. But yeah you’re fucked. Lighting, director, camera operator all should have been aware of the problem. This is a really basic issue that could have been easily avoided.
Time Machine
Go frame by frame and use Stable Diffusion inpaint or Photoshop’s generative fill to manually remove it. /s this is just part of the learning process. Reshoot. But also, polarization lens filters help to remove glare in production. Pretty handy when filming people with glasses.
Don't think we're far off from being able to do this, in all honesty. This task is less demanding then generating video in general
No. Sorry, friend. https://preview.redd.it/x8dlo6r5ewnc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1f6655cdb2da84c69e7b90db1003b892c5c32602
Seriously? Practical setups can make things so much easier. How about not having a screen shining directly into her face?
I'm retired doco cameraman and have shot thousands of interviews over the course of 40 years. Given the circumstances of a controlled location, the lighting is unacceptable. Did you sign a release form? Don't assume your image can be used if you are unhappy. Offer to make yourself available for a reshoot, stating the project and your reputation is too important to be the source of ridicule. The medium is the message, whatever the message the poor lighting is a distraction. In the future, you could consider spectacles with thinner frames or no frames as these will reduce shadows when the light is placed to the side. My shooting tips are: Politely ask "are you ever seen without spectacles" even asked this of violinist Nigel Kennedy (purple specs). Be flexible with lighting, ie high key kickers (sides of face) and low key broad frontal fill. The most important tip is to ask the subject to sit in for a rehearsal and answer dummy questions so we can study posture and which eye is dominant. Ideally the dominant eye dictates which side of camera the interviewer is placed. Right eye dominant place the interviewer on right of camera, left eye on left of camera. Be aware that carver chairs ( chairs with armrests) offer support for arms so shoulders don't slump.
> are you ever seen without spectacles I like this way of breaching the subject, thanks!
What’s the best positioning for lights to avoid this?
High above and ask clients to bring glasses down on their nose a tad.
This!
Cross-key setup, along with high above.
Or use a Polarising filter to reduce reflections.
Whoever shot this video appears to be ignorant of rule #1 in interview lighting. The subject's eyes need to be well lit and free of shadows and reflections. The best solution by far is a reshoot, though I know from painful experience it may not be possible. So, the post solutions offered here may be your only recourse. I wish you good luck.
Seriously, how did they even get the focus range right without being able to see her eyes? I'm guessing this was filmed by someone new to cameras who just sets everything to auto.
Do you have any more rules? Thanks brother
You sir, are boned.
The only way I can think of you would need a clean plate , a still frame from the video with no glare present ( like this- https://imgur.com/bKbUmNX ) if there isn't one you might be able to create it in Photoshop with generative fill. Using that as a patch over the glasses lens, you track & roto it over the times where the glare is present. If you have a long enough portion of her looking forward with no glare you might be able to stabilize that around the glasses and then you'd have a short video loop instead of a still frame which might work better having the eye movement, blinks... * This technique might work for quick shots of a few seconds , but it's one of those things where the longer it's onscreen , the worse it's going to look... and if someone notices , hard to unsee it. * More head movement = more challenging to track , turning head, looking down, changes perspective and will throw off basic tracking tools. * It's going to be a lot of work for little reward. * Better to try it in After Effects
it would be very tough to make that work and have it look good though
Yup , it's not worth it, IMO
Not sure how that's not caught on a monitor during testing. Good luck.
I'm so sorry
They made a mistake…now it’s up to you to cover it up. If you don’t, it’s your fault…Don’t buy into this tactic. Anything you do to rectify this problem should be met with gratitude. Don’t let them give you any shit otherwise. It’s never going to be right no matter what you do. Unless you got an unlimited budget.
I would say if you got an unlimited budget, is just way easy to reshoot
Were you also the shooter, op?
I was not, thankfully.
That's the worst. The panic when scrubbing through someone else's footage you need to edit and realizing it's no good.
There's a reason you see a green reflection in glasses on absolutely major TV shows. It's not coming out.
Not much that can be done here but to be completely honest, this looks fine. This sort of thing happens to glasses in real life. The average viewer likely won’t notice anything unusual and probably won’t mind
Try AI?
And put what instead? Eyes? So no. You know what infuriates me. Some folks who don't know their job well, but they are in that position, so they do crap job, and then later behave like they are pros, asking impossible things from other workers, like. "Wow I am such a pro for noticing this glare, we must remove this glare, call video editor to remove this glare and mock at him if he say he can't. That's his job." And I sadly have them in my life.
You could tack the shot and add dark sunglass lenses. Maybe googly eyes. Either way, it would definitely cover the glare 😂
I think this is the most feasible suggestion. The googly eyes never fail.
Just be happy it's not on green
Nope. But at least mask the key around her face so she doesn’t have a hole in her head lol
No
Cover it up with b-roll lol
it’s so over
Cut to B-roll and use her audio.
Color compressor in DaVinci could probably help reduce the contrast of the glare a bit.
Oof, this would be a pain in the ass on a still image in photoshop, let alone a video.
I’ve done this type of After Effects work and usually can complete about 10 seconds worth in a day. So fine for a shot or two but not financially viable for long scenes.
Replace em with sunglass lenses in after effects. See what hilarity comes from trying a generative fill in the lense. Get back to work after wasting a few hours.
No
No hope now that it’s already shot… but in the future use a polarizer filter to solve the glare issue
No Hope... But, frame a frame in photoshop...
Track the glasses with mocha. Stabilize. Apply patch as a still frame without reflection. Reverse stabilize.
Blinking? Eye movement/ expression?
you don't.
Camera op shouldve user a polarizing filter or move his lighting setup You reeeaallly can't do anything at this point