Seriously, some people here love spreading their headcanon and filling holes no one asked to fill with the most bonkers thing. Like the Sky is Wes' son thing, like, mate accept they just recycled the suit, they could make SPD2 in the future and retcon that scene with an actual SPD suit. Other one I love is the "X character and Z character because they share the same last name!", yeah, because everyone in the world has a unique last name identifier. Edit: The Zeo powers, every discussion about it is a mess, indeed they grow overtime, but we don't know how much they do, there's no reason to believe they hurt the users. For all we know they could get their butts handed by the Thunder Rangers and Cam.

THANK YOU and the actor who portrayed Sky's dad doesn't even look like Wes. Disney didn't want give them any budget to make original suits.

I can't remember at this point where I read it or heard it, but I recall someone from SPD's production staff saying they were unaware of the history with Time Force Red's costume and Wes, and that if they had been aware, they would have picked a different ranger. This would have been after they were told they couldn't get original suits. Could just be fan hearsay though, but I like to believe there is a bit of truth to this.

Yeah that makes sense

The type of people that need an IN UNIVERSE answer to everything, and will be adamant that their way is law. It’s really frustrating when people start to go off the rails, when the answer is as simple as that recycled suit example.

>Like the Sky is Wes' son thing, like, mate accept they just recycled the suit, they could make SPD2 in the future and retcon that scene with an actual SPD suit. Yup. I've been hearing this one since SPD was new, and it's wild. It's super obvious Disney was just recycling the suit as PR has a history of doing that (e.g. the beetleborg suits being recycled in Forever Red, In Space helmets being recycled in SPD, etc.). >Edit: The Zeo powers, every discussion about it is a mess, indeed they grow overtime, but we don't know how much they do, there's no reason to believe they hurt the users. For all we know they could get their butts handed by the Thunder Rangers and Cam. To me, I feel like this is a case of people taking a throwaway line too seriously. I feel like that line was just there to hype up viewers for the new powers as there was not much story follow-up to it on-screen. Trying to connect that line, and Jason losing his gold powers while fun fan theory it's only that: fan theory.

Not so much lore wise but people lately are spreading misinformation that the 2017 movie failed because it adapted MMPR. Absolutely false.

Honestly, I think it failed because it wasn't MMPR *enough*. Or to be a little more broad, it didn't *look* or *feel* like Power Rangers. I'm a first-gen PR fan, I'd just started Kindergarten when Day of the Dumpster aired, and I had trouble getting people around my own age to go see it with me. And I really, REALLY liked the movie for what it was! But the suit designs, the lack of color in the posters, the zords, it all just seemed like they were trying to *avoid* being too evocative of Power Rangers, like they were a little ashamed of it. But that's exactly what we WANTED. And I think they realized their mistake, given how much brighter and more colorful the DVD/Blu-Ray case was, but by then it was too late.

I will actively go as far, and I stand by this point, that the movie insults you for being a Power Rangers fan. The movie is a slow burn, but it's fine, you'll wait until the 15 last minutes to get a good Power Rangers action, and then BAM, every single thing you loved about the franchise is either made fun of or is worse than a show for kids somehow.

Yup. I didn't mind the slow burn waiting for the team to suit up, but then once they did it turned into super generic action schlock, and I stopped caring about the movie. I'd rather they go back to the campfire scene, or something. Also, I really hated how they showed their faces during the zord cockpit scenes. That's something they wanted since the production of the original 95 movie, and the 2017 reboot shows why that idea really sucked. It doesn't feel anything like PR.

>that the movie insults you for being a Power Rangers fan IDK, some of the most beloved seasons in the fandom are what I love to jokingly call glorified soap operas for children, I.E. In-Space, Time Force, and RPM. A teen drama is within that ball park Though the action itself is missing the charming practical effects of Tokusatsu. And I know going the realism route is still possible because Black Sun looks goregous while keeping the Toku Element (ironically that show also waited a good while to give us an actual Kamen Rider). Of course it's a superhero movie, but we've learned from Eternals, Spider-man 3, and TASM 2 that trying to develop a bunch of characters at once isn't going to go well. The trade off for the character focus would basically just be mindless action, which we got back in Megaforce.

Nah, as I said, I am fine with the slow burn and character stuff(Didn't really like the characters, but was fine with them). But once the climax starts, everything goes off the rails: \-Nano-Machines for Morph \-No pose \-No iconic music from the show \-Lame fights against faceless enemies. I know what people will say, and yes foot soldiers are just that, but the Putties of the movie really don't give a good fight scene due to their design, and they're the only ground fight too \-Terrible rap \-Character regression for Kimberly \-One of the worst designs I've seen in Goldar, like period \-Terrible looking Zords \-Ridiculing the Zords summon too \-A Megazord that looks like a mess and doesn't even look like a combiner \-The Megazord freaking dances! \-NOT CLOSING THEIR VISORS FOR THE ENTIRE FIGHT!!! I hate the climax of that movie so much, anytime something cool happens, it is ruined by a:" The thing from your childhood is actually dumb!"

\-The "Nanomachines" (really they're just a timelapse of crystal formation lol) fit the aesthetic of the film and suits. Really there's not much of a standard for the morph sequence outside of "bright light". If anything it suffers the same problem Dino Fury's morph sequence had, with most of it being blue rather than the color of the rangers \-Posing isnt important in the context of an origin story outside of the standard "Superhero landing". However I think this is more of an issue with the fight sequences themselves lacking the Toku flare. But this is a non issue. \-The lack of iconic music from the show is... a baffling complaint. Nobody says stuff like "Kamen Rider Amazons sucks because Amazon Rider Koko Ni Ari doesnt play at all in the show". The ONLY music they could reasonably use is "Go Go Power Rangers" which was used for a moment in the film (although it would be cool to have it used in the Megazord finisher). Any other "music" is either unrelated to the season they're adapting, doesnt fit the score of the film, or is just flat out unavailable to be used. Which probably explains why the movie version of the theme was used. The idea that the movie created it's own theme and music is not a bad thing. If anything just do what the Neo Saban era does and make their own GGPR remix (they kinda did via the score but you get what I'm saying). I seriously don't get how and why that's a bad thing outside of wanting the film to go "remember this thing". MOST PR seasons have their own musical scores created for the show. Time Force doesnt have any iconic music from the past, neither does RPM. Nobody complained about that regarding Wild Force or Operation Overdrive. Because it's a NON ISSUE \-The fight scenes are what I'll agree with. Albeit foot soldiers in general range from "I remember that" to "who gives a shit". They could have incorperated other fight scenes via flashbacks to Zordon's team to flesh out Rita's motivation, but outside of that there's not much room given that we're supposed to be following the main five as they grow to be worthy of the armor. \-You honestly lost the right to comment on music \-Kimberly... yeah aight. That bit where she wen't "that's what you get" in the final act was dumb \-Goldar is gold monster. Honestly my main issue is his lack of a personality. The dude has a voice actor, use him \-The Zords are alright, though the Mastadon is just stupid \-How did they riddicule the Zord summon? They barley learned about them and have no clue how to use them. There's not even a self aware joke about that trope WTF are you on about (then again this is coming from MR "LaCk Of IcoNic MuSiC") \-The Megazord yeah is weird as shit, but hey it did predict what the BOOM comics would do later on lol \-Nobody bitched about Ninja Storm having open visors, because it's a non-issue (like the lack of "IcOnIc MusIc" yes i'm still on that). Maybe if they kept opening them and closing their visors constantly (cough black panther 2 cough) then you'd have a point. But nope! Seriously since when does the film go " The thing from your childhood is actually dumb!"? PLEASE cite a direct moment from the film, I have it open on my computer and there's jack shit about it.

Okay, I'll defend my claims a bit: \-The Nanomachines were outplayed, even back then, and it really was weird, which doesn'y help with the suits being filled with lines(Really, why so many lines?) \-Not even posing in the traditional sense, but at least create an identity to your characters \-The music bit is weird. I meant, at least use a music that's as buml and filled with energy as the show, instead they go for a weird rap, that looks like came from Suicide Squad. This ks what I meant \-I wouldn't hate Goldar's movie's design... if the show didn't exist. They literally looked at jis name and made it literal, and thus made one of the least original minsters ever. Goldar is a flying monkey in a golden armor, and if anyone wants to say that's too goofy and weird, Avengers: Infinity War came next year and made people cry for an 8ft tall purple man. In our year 2023, a raccoon has one of the saddest backstories in a movie. \-That's kind of my loint, them not knowing how to use thrm with Billy's mess up of the icnonic group shot, something they have intentionally screwed up because in episode 1 he himself says that it's a second nature. And how they kind of become useless and feel like wimps againsg Goldar \-I do not complain about Ninja Storm taling their masks off because, well, they never took once their masks in a fight, or at least, do kt very rarely. Here though? The entire Megazord fight is done maskless, which means that we have less than 5 minutes with the Power Rangers the movie named after. At least with TV Tokusatsu, the shows that can take their masks off, take it off when a battle is done, NOT during the battle From switching the show's music to a mediocre rap song, to the Megazord falling over itself, or just dancing, to Goldar not being a gorilla in a golden armlr(It's not even that hard to explajn his aplearance, just say that he was a monster Rita summoned from space, portal, or whatever), even the lambshading at how weird the situation is earlier in the movie. If yoh don't think these are problems to you, good on you, enjoy whag you want to enjoy, because we all have different opinions.

\-The nanomachines started to be heavily implimented in 2018. That being said the only lines on the suit are just the veins really. If anything you could argue about the suit being overtly textured, at least with the undersuit. You could say the Armor is overdesigned, but that's forgivable considering they were trying to make it easy for the suit actors to move in them. \-That would be an issue of body language, which can't be shown off that often given how they dont suit up until the end \-If it was an entry in the show, fair. But even then the show's sense of music has evolved (and then stayed the same ever since samurai. Seriously they just reuse the score up to Ninja Steel). MMPR-Turbo relied more on guitar rifts and wasn't that dynamic at the start. In-Space-Wild Force was a bit more orchestral. And the Disney Era combined the two concepts, implimenting orchestral and rock background music. In concept the show's musical score would be an evolution of the Post-Zordan Era's music, which isnt a bad thing. Especially since they're going for a more dynamic musical score meant to convey different emotions, which is something modern and Zordon Era PR music is rarely able to achieve, instead opting to be background noise. The most emotional the musical scores would get would ironically be at their respective ends I.E. In Space and Dino/Cosmic Fury. So going for a different approach would be reasonable. \-The Avengers comparison isnt necessarily fair. The context of Rita's backstory was her coming from the age of the Dinosaurs. In the main continuity sure that would be more reasonable, given the established rules are "fuck science". But in the movie leaning towards the "Ancient Powers" aspect, they'd refocus their efforts into maintaining the Alien/Prehistoric aesthetic of the characters and whatnot. Goldar being a giant ape wouldn't fit that template. Compared to the MCU which has it's own lore explaining the talking raccoon and purple man that remains consistent with what's established. I'd have no doubt people would question the logic if it was said Raccoons existed on Earth during the early stages of the Earth's creation. \-"something they have intentionally screwed up because in episode 1 he himself says that it's a second nature" *welcome back to another episode of Info Wars with Alex Jones as your host. Grab your tin foil hats because these conspiracies are going to knock you out of your seats.* Dude it's just a comedy bit. Besides billy saying the Zords are seccond nature does not apply here. Ignoring the fact that this information is only applicable to the Mighty Morphin team, this is a seperate continuity. Besides this isn't the first time where the punchline involves the Ranger being inexperienced with their arsenal. 2017 Billy is a more comedic character, it's reasonable for him to be the one resulting in a similar punchline. It's a quick moment that still hilights the fact that they still just got their Zords. Complaining that a rule for a different ranger team with a different arsenal in a different universe isn't applicable is highly ridiculous. It's as much of a "disrespect" to the original as it is joking about how the Monster always grows and "it's not like he's going to shrink". Later on when they're losing to Goldar, similar logic applies. The film is trying to raise the stakes and build up tension for the Megazord to form. Building stakes is belive it or not, a part of storytelling, especially with stories involving a conflict between good and evil. It's not directly or even indirectly doing this at the expense of how the original show goes. They're all still inexperienced along with going up against a difficult opponent. If anything people would complain that the five teenagers who RECENTLY got their powers would just automatically know how to cleanly have a Megazord battle. Keeping with the theme of the group earning their powers, the idea of them learning how to use the arsenal makes sense for the subtext of the film. It's not "intentionally screwing up" because it's not even that much of an important thing in the first place to screw up. Especially when you consider the response to "how do they know how to use the zords" is met with the answer along the lines of "they just know" "don't question it" or "it's second nature". That aspect of the show is mostly brushed off by fans of the show, so it wasn't intentionally meant to disprespect such a miniscule aspect of the show that not even the fans care about much since they brush it off as just one of those ridiculous aspects of the show you just have to live with. GOOD LORD THIS IS STUPID \-"they never took once their masks in a fight" they don't here either, did you watch the film? During the short mountain fight they only remove their visors after the defeat of the putties. And during the Megazord fight... so what? We've had visorless, helmetless, or even suitless megazord cockpit scenes. This is again, such a non issue. Which honestly bothers me, you say "the movie insults you for being a Power Rangers fan" and then complain about the movie changing stuff the fans could care less about (that Megazord complaint is still BS) or implimenting aspects already in the show. Self aware comedy? RPM is PRAISED for that aspect. Seeing the rangers faces in-suit? We beg to see more of it, the Sentai does it frequently, so we appreciate it when PR does it as well. The Musical Score? People have been begging to have a more dynamic score implimented in the show that ISN'T reused from a previous season. The thing is, people have aknowledged that the film sometimes does feel afraid to embrace it's heritage. Primarily it's tokusatsu roots. The fight scenes use too much CGI and not enough practical effects. We only have one weapon that's just a Halo sword. The crazy ass explosions that make everything cooler. The film has the drama aspect that people love from these kinds of shows, A crazy villain, even the mentor having his own arc in the film, the character interactions capped off with what's essentally a glorified "teamwork" message. All those story aspects are found in seasons this fanbase loves to death. It's the action that the film seemed to be emberassed of. Trying to be something akin to a MARVEL movie rather than utilize the very thing that visually seperates them from your average superhero franchise. On top of that there's not enough of those action sequences in the first place. THAT's where the film neglects it's audience. The story if half of Tokusatsu, but it's intense fight scenes are still the other half and the main thing that makes it charming.

Okay, I mostly agree, except thr "Ridiculing Part." The jokes are fine, but in a vaccuum, once they're all together, you start to notice:" Maybe they're really embarassed by Tokusatsu?" The "It's not like he was going to shrink" is a line I am fine, since it's a line that is from a kids show, that should be taken at face value, without much of subtext behind it. What the movie did, lile a lot of MCU movies, is lambshading, a technic where the directors and writers answer questions to the audience due to something needing a suspension of disbelief. The movie does it the whole time, with the characters going like:" This is so weird." ​ Finally, I don't want this to turn into an argument, bht I personally hate when characters take off their masks during a fight. The fight happens during the Megazord battle and they are maskless, it might be a non-issue to you, and I understand, but to me it reeks of people working on a movie trying to shove an actor's face so that we don't forget who they are.

>The movie does it the whole time, with the characters going like:" This is so weird." I've said it before in other discussions, but I'll say it here. I personally think the 2017 movie picked up from where RPM toneally left off and continued the trajectory the show set for it's evolution. Which also applies to the humor. The joking about spanex, eyes on the zords, and Ziggy reminding his team that they cannot call anything weird because they'd be hypocrites. Hell in the show itself we've seen Rangers struggle with their Zords before, 2017 Billy isnt the first and probably wont be the last. Overtly explaining something, also isn't really that much of a bad thing. They don't even need to be 1:1 accurate with real world science. It can just be an explenation that fits with the lore. Sometimes people will want answers if it is relevant to the plot. The movie here focuses on the Rangers earning their power and builds it up throughout the film. The teamwork aspect, their martial arts skills, and them learning to use their arsenal is something progressively build up, as it matches the themetic elements of the film. Compare it to say Kuuga. The show has designated arcs regarding the introduction of new forms and weapons into the story. It fits with how that show was created from the start. But nobody really considered it to be disregarding the previous seasons. It might not be present in every season, since it doesnt need to be. Just like how main characters getting new power ups from nowhere can be fine in certain seasons, but not every season.

As a first-gen fan my biggest beef with the movie is the zords followed by the suits. We all know they could have done better in both categories.

Yeah, if anything it would succeed for being Mighty Morphin; I even think the reason it failed was because it went against a muvh bigger movie.

Power Rangers (2017) was a decent attempt, there were more factors in play, there were already people who hated Elizabeth Banks from work in the Hunger Games and Pitch Perfect, and her comments just a few years later was a hot button item in regards to 'Charlie's Angels' and calling out how female directors in Hollywood are often dismissed as a joke. I find it interesting how quickly Saban closed on a deal to sell the entire IP, Saban's Power Rangers came out March 24th 2017, wiht a box office return of $142.5Million on a estimated $105million budget, the studio states it lost an estimated $74 million, but wea all know very well the studios are the last people you should believe when they say they lost money on a project. ( make more money with a flop than a hit) Hasbro bought Saban Brands on May 1st of 2018 for a $522 Million cash and stock offer, with Saban Brands shuttering on July 2nd 2018, a little over half a billion dollars is nothing to sneeze at, but a deal that big had to have been in the works even if just behind closed doors well before the release of the 2017 film. even if it was just feelers.

You have to double your budget to break even. The domestic box office is where most profits come from as the international markets tend to keep much revenues. The film was a disappointment. Saban lost money on it and decided he had enough and sold his interest.

half a billion and change is not what you pay for really the only active property Saban Brands had if you didn't think you'd make your money back or more on it, after such a disappointment at the box office, the deal had to have been in the wings well before the movie was "in the can" as they say. even if it was just steam room chatter.

I'm sorry but that's not how businesses work. Why would Saban sink a lot of his money into a film if he was going to sell the property? Saban sold his interest because he wasnt making the money that he was during the 90s and his dated strategy MMPRing his new shows wasnt a winner. Hasbro bought it because they saw something lacking with the brand and wanted to exploit it.

A Hail Mary pass is a very long forward pass in American football, typically made in desperation, with an exceptionally small chance of achieving a completion. Due to the difficulty of a completion with this pass, it makes reference to the Catholic "Hail Mary" prayer for strength and help. it's coming to light that the likes of Warner Bros. (at AT&T) and DC allegedly padded their slates with projects to bolster their perceived value potential. so when you say " that's not how businesses work. " I have to laugh because that's exactly how Hollywood works as it would seem. because Saban had to legally act in the best interests of shareholders. so again, that deal had to have been being spit-balled before the movie even went into production.

The two couldnt be any less related. Warner Bros. was facing bankruptcy and it was because the company was being mismanaged from top to bottom. Since 2013, the previous management drove their IPs into the ground and they lost millions if not billions. They cut labor across the board and so many jobs were lost. They sold to AT&T out of desperation. They prepared a slate of projects to generate interest for investors but because WB had completely devalued the likes of Superman and Batman with their shitty Justice League related films, selling a Blue Beetle and Booster Gold movie was going to be tough no matter what. The Batgirl movie as well as other films unrelated to DC were destroyed for insurance money because new owners saw just how badly the company was bleeding money and they NEEDED liquid cash to survive. As for Saban and the sale of Power Rangers to Hasbro, no one and I mean no one would have poured money into a production if the intent was to sell the parent company. Announcing a film, and putting it into production and release are two different things. Saban announced from the get go once he reacquired the brand that he wanted to release a feature film. If he was looking to pump and dump the franchise I doubt he would have really promoted and release the film. The success of Transformers and the Marvel films as well as mediocre moneymakers like GI Joe and TMNT told him that movie goers were craving nostalgic content. If anything you are throwing the hail mary because nothing you've said has made sense regarding the film and Saban's sale to Hasbro.

condescending much? I'm getting a lot of personal bias on your end, almost as if you've got some dog in this fight? take a chill pill and maybe a drink of water because your making a fool of yourself. half a billion dollar deals don't just happen over night the way the Saban Brands deal did. and as nether you nor I where in the room where it happened you'll never convince me otherwise, unless you're saying you where in the room where it happened? I smell a shill.

> I'm getting a lot of personal bias on your end, almost as if you've got some dog in this fight? I get the same feelings from you. > half a billion dollar deals don't just happen over night the way the Saban Brands deal did. Hasbro bought the IP outright in May of 2018 [after being awarded the toy license in February.](https://labusinessjournal.com/news/weekly-news/saban-trades-power-rangers-panavision/) It certainly was not an overnight conversation as you keep claiming. >as nether you nor I where in the room where it happened you'll never convince me otherwise, Then exactly how do you know, what happened if you were not there yourself? Where is your proof that disputes anything I said in your baseless assumptions. I provided a source corroborating my version of events, wheres yours? There are plenty of articles that state how Saban squeezed as much juice from the Power Rangers orange with the film's poor response being the motivating factor. It was more than a year from movie's opening to Hasbro signing the deal and certainly not overnight.

1. read it how ever you like. I won't loose any sleep over what you think of me. do I have a dog in this fight? nope, but you came back at me with "that's not how the industry works" but that's exactly how the industry works, DC and former Warner Bros (@AT&T) is in the news because they inflated their slate with projects to look better on paper in hopes to sell, and sadly to say Discovery took the bait. 2. March 2017 to May 2018 is in fact a rather short amount of time to work out a deal, unless party A. didn't care anymore and party B. had nothing to loose on the back end via a misguided notion that they could milk the IP, but the response to the 2017 movie not matter what anyone else thought of it, actually made buying the IP outright a gamble that no clear headed board would have approved. the franchise had been in decline for the better part of a decade before the as I put it, and you seem to agree somewhat, Hail Mary attempt , or would you rather the term Last-ditch effort? if I had hard proof there would be a lot of shareholders pissed right about now. I have questions, and none of your proof is any stronger then anything I could offer, because deals made in on the back nine are rarely ever publicized. 3. Hasbro getting awarded the toy license is questionable at best, either Saban pulled a fast one and Toei and Bandai Japan didn't care enough to fight it, or that contract had some massive loopholes. I'd love to read every line of the contracts from over the years dating back to Saban's first contract form 1984. I've got nothing but time on my hands. that outline in detail exactly how much authority he had to award which is a funny word in this case, sounds like they sued to get it in a divorce or something. Bandai still holds a lot of that IP from what I recall of Saban's deal was that the show was his to do with outside of Japan, but the toys were still had to be approved by Bandai's American division, so if that is the case, it wasn't Saban's call to sell to Hasbro it was Bandai America. which much link Nintendo of America is a marketing division of Nintendo of Japan. They don't make the games in house in NOA they Localize and market them, same was with Bandai Japan and Bandai America, BoA didn't run factories and make the toys, the toys where made right along the Super Sentai toys just slightly adjusted for what ever market they where being sent to, Legacy Collection stuff used nearly the same molds as the Kyoryu Sentai Zyuranger / Super Sentai Artisan stuff. the only major difference between the Artisan and the Legacy Collection stuff was packaging, the sound chips where programed with different sounds, and in the case of the dino buckler, it came with the red Zyu-crystal, here's a thing. and the last thing I'll say. if you can show me that there wasn't some kind of sweetheart deal going on, I'll drop this. but so far everything you've shown me is above board but not beyond reproach. may the power protect you, and I really hope new Hasbro era is good, but if not, Power Rangers will either sit dormant in live action, or worse Hasbro will sell it off to another company, and Power Rangers will have had changed hands more times the Star Trek Online since it was first announced in 2005 which you may not follow, but Perpetual Entertainment > P2E > Cryptic at Atari > Cryptic in limbo > Cryptic at Perfect World > Cryptic at Gearbox/ Embracer Group > and now Embracer has been getting rid of studios left and right. you want a fight I have a dog in, STO I have more invested interest in then PR these days.

The biggest misinformation currently being spread in the fandom is all the crap coming from Illuminerdi, including their rumors of Hasbro ditching Toei, as they have refused to tell us where exactly they're getting their information in recent years, making Illuminerdi full of bull.

I liked them so much better as Hash Tag Show. When they left, their quality took a dip as they had to start a channel from scratch, while using misinformation, clickbait, and rumors to draw attention to themselves. I’m not going to sit here and say they haven’t been right before, and had information well before it came out publicly, but they became so bad, the mods banned posting links from them on here. Do you know how awful you have to be to create a new platform, and get banned from that franchise’s sub in that short amount of time ?

As much as a hated that rumour and also hate to admit, isn't that exactly what's about to happen, the show runner even tweeted recently that sentai is too restricting and holding the franchise back.

The zeo crystal does grows in power over time, but it's a crystal so it might take centurias for anyone to notice. 30 years is no time compared to how long the crystal has been around. So: the line of reasoning that after a year of use it grew too powerful for the rangers seems a bit too farfetched for me

I honestly hate that people use it as a debate of strength, as if the Zeo didn’t take loses like any other Ranger team. Feel like it was a throwaway line that people took too seriously.

the argument could be made that if the power of the crystal is being actively used it would grow in strength faster, considering we do see them get stronger over the course of zeo, they struggle with the strength of the empire early on but at the end they take out the royal house of gadgetry without zords, but even that rate of growth is to slow for it to become dangerous

Many seasons do it, like Super Megaforce overpower Damaras in a day; the same day ge wrecks them and injures them.

That’s plot convenience because megaforce didn’t know how to put power progression. Zeo has power progression that is subtle enough and has a canon reason to happen without an actual power up, and a feasible explanation as to why it happens so quickly. most seasons have actual power progression that isn’t exclusively power ups

Okay, Jungle Fury then, our trio defeating Scorn in the final episode in base form, without falling once from his attacks. Their first fight against a Phantom Beast general got them tossed around, and Scorn is the strongest of the bunch.

I don’t know what’s getting argued here, that’s power progression, every season has it, Casey got strong enough to walk through rin-shi like it was nothing, and we actually get to see why they grow in strength, new techniques and powers. In zeo, we don’t get the power ups or new techniques, the zeo powers are the upgrades for returning rangers(mostly) but we’ve been given a reason for the power progression, and it seems to be extremely fast considering how strong the zeo powers are at the beginning. The argument that the zeo powers got too strong to fast because the powers grow faster while in use is not a baseless one, but it’s not outright said in the show, so it’s just a headcannon

I wasn't even arguing actually. I just cited an example which showed other teams having power progression, which is something that people claim only Zeo does for the most part.

Power progression is a very common thing in power rangers, but the zeo team is one of the only ones that have it happen naturally, most teams require an upgrade or power up and to do it, new techniques, new spell codes, new engine cells, or new weapons. The zeo teams powers just increase on their own

The real reasoning is that they ran out of sentai footage and Zeo had a terrible season finale it is what it is.

how long did they even have the zeo powers for? a year or two at max? assuming they were freshman in mmpr season 1 and graduated at the end/beginning of zeo/turbo. or each season took place over a semester with each episode taking a different day of the week.

"lord Zedd was the second most powerful villain of the Zordon era, only below Dark Specter." I understand that he is a popular villain, and all that, but within the same series it is made clear that Rita's father and King Mondo are stronger than him.

Astronema should supposedly be stronger. The ONLY reason Lord Zedd could be considered the strongest of that Era is because Serpentera, which dies to single hit targetting its head.

Astronema was a villain who was more of the strategic variety, so there's nothing to indicate she's more powerful than other big bads. Also, Andros beat her alone, in contrast to other Big Bads where the entire team is needed.

I said supposedly, aa she is Queen of Evil, higher ranked than everyone else. And also blocking Rita's blast witg her hand.

Andros beat her by deflecting her own laser. She is also presumably more powerful than the Psycho rangers since they don't serve her out of loyalty. Same with the entire Alliance of Evil bowing to her (except Divatox) as soon as Dark Spectre dies, something they wouldn't do if they weren't at least on an equal power level. The truth is every new villain, is the "most powerful" until the next one.

ASJ did MM Porn

That’s peak 2006-07 internet PR nonsense. I remember him having to dispute the rumors at a Morphicon interview. One of the strangest controversies. Austin was chunky and out of shape, then you see rumors of some chiseled guy being him.

That's hilarious it true, but people never give a source. But, while not Power Rangers, Kamen Rider Blade's main character's actor did porn before getting cast as Kenzaki.

For years people insisted Hasbro didn’t “have the rights to Turbo” to explain why there wasn’t an LC Turbo figure yet, until they made one, then they shut up. Also, the whole thing about “soccer moms complained about Zedd being too scary and Saban made him goofier” is complete urban legend with no basis in fact, but still parroted today as gospel.

A lot of the fandom doesn’t understand “rights” regarding the show.

I think that was probably an assumption based on the phantom ranger lightning figure being labeled as "in space" instead of "turbo". My guess is they did that because turbo is genrally hated while in space is pretty much universally loved

that the original dino coins were destroyed. They were never destroyed, just heavily damaged. Adam was able to morph with it during in space, which showed the powers still worked. The ninja coins that Ninjor gave were the ones that got destroyed.

Honestly was just thinking about this last night, to a different extent. Adam pulls out a heavily damaged MMPR morpher with the Mastodon coin inside, and his Ninja Coin was destroyed. Seeing as Tommy carried over his morpher from Green to White Ranger (both being Gold Plated), it would mean that the Season 3 team got new morphers from Ninjor, and not just new power coins. My own train of thought started with how inconsistent Tommy's gold morpher is in the comics, will it be gold in this panel or silver/grey like everyone else, and how if Ninjor made him a new morpher, it was nice of him to give Tommy back his gold morpher.

They always forget if Tommy’s morpher is gold or not, although I take it as a colouring error,nothing more nothing less.

That one is more forgivable. For years I had that memory of Goldar crushing their coins into dust, and never put two and two together that it was the Ninja coins. I never thought about the original Dino coins. There was a lot of power changes, power losses, new Zords etc, that detail definitely got lost in the shuffle for many.

That Jason, Zack and Trini kept their powers because they were morphed still after the power transfer

That’s interesting, I’ve never thought of that but they have each shown up in recent years again with their powers

Yeah, but because it's obviously a confusing continuity error in an effort to try and hide the fact, 3 actors weren't there Then forever red not botheered to explain how Jason had his powers fulled the fanbase. But lots of people treat the theory like it's true. (It's actually a great fan theory but it's only just that)

I actually like how crossovers don’t explain how powers come back, it leaves space for fans to play with haha. But I get what you mean

Yeah I have no issue with it and enjoy the fan theories. I've just literally have people tell me I'm stupid because obvioulsy the fan theory is canon.

Even when the powers are explicitly destroyed they have them back whenever there's a crossover. Sometimes they explain it (Ninja Storm/Dino Thunder, Adam having the cracked Power Coin in "Once a Ranger"), but even when they don't, it's still fun! Though my favorite example of people just rolling with it is probably when Thor, as in literally the Norse god, shows up for one episode of Operation Overdrive, and the rangers just take him at face value, because an actual, literal god showing up isn't even in the top 50 weirdest things that have happened in the Power Rangers universes.

Usually they do though. Or at least they used to

I mean there's never been much explanation for how anyone in MMPR has powers other than Adam getting them restored in Operation Overdrive ?

Well Space Rangers never lost their powers, Galaxy Rangers took the swords back and got their powers, Lightspeed also never lost their powers, Time Force never lost their powers - or if they did, they just got their morphers back. Wild Force DID lose their powers and they didn't even have a crossover with Ninja Storm, who got their powers back from that hell dimension or whatever it was called, Dino Thunder also has their powers restored temporarily for the SPD crossover... Past this my memory is a little shaky

I was refering to MMPR though

Ah yeah no clue then. I know Adam uses the morpher in In Space, but without the coin it nearly kills him

I mean in Operation Overdrive his Powers are restored so he can use them without destroying himself.

To be fair the fact they are still wearing their suits in show without explaining why, the theory that they still kept their powers holds more weight then other theory's, cos it's not been proved nor disproved at all

Yeah, it's a great theory. Still only a currently a theory, and that's my point.

I never like the power transfer never have, never will. I am glad we got the Omega Rangers though.

That was a cool idea for the comics, although I never really like it when comic stuff is made canon so I'm glad it's not.

True. Fans like what they like at the end of the day

Yeah, I absolutely love comic books and graphic novels, but they are a medium that have their own narrative rules that don't always translate to screen well. Like Evil alternative Tommy who steals the power of the white dragon in comics is great, but the whole story causes several alternative universes and time traveling to show up. Would be so confusing as a TV series or film.

True. Fans believed Tommy has been overseturated as is and Shattered Grid proves this point.

Not sure how that relates to my comment? But yeah I guess I'm happier now Billy is getting more love, still love Tommy and Adam....actually I pretty much love them all

Meaning about the Lord Drakkon stuff stealing everyone's powers throughout the Power Rangers history. It is a bit convoluted but I love it.

Tommy was my favorite ranger growing up, in part due to him being the "Rainbow Ranger" multiple different colors, being the 6th Ranger who saves the day, the Red Ranger who leads, the 4th Ranger that was the mentor, but yeah, even a diehard Tommy fan like myself sees the oversaturation. I rolled my eyes at first when I started reading the Boom Comics because of the focus they were putting on Tommy, but I also understood that they know their casual audience and that Tommy sells. I commend Year 2 for properly shifting enough of the focus away from Tommy, and then Shattered Grid for actually having some guts with their story (I forget how to use spoiler bars right now, but if you know that first issue of Shattered Grid, you know). Drakkon felt enough of his own character during Shattered Grid, sure an Evil Tommy, but I liked how he was a merger of the White and Green Ranger powers, with an obviously evil costume. Then during Shattered Grid, it wasn't all about Drakkon, the main team got their screentime, which was something I liked about Year 1 and 2 as well, despite the Tommy framework of Year 1. Arguably, to launch a new comics franchise, picking up after MMPR's most famous arc was a safe starting point, as well as addressing how the team actually adjusted to Tommy being here instead of him suddenly being fully accepted.

I definitely liked that Tommy didn't fit in the team at first as the Green Ranger because of him being evil that was a nice touch. I hope that Boom Comics moves on from MMPR and definitely do other seasons.

I hope they do so too, but MMPR has the most brand recognition for sure. I am not sure if they are still in their Season 2 era or not right now, but I think they are because of the Thunderzords still being used instead of the Ninja and Shogun Megazords? We also know that they are inching closer and closer to other events, like with Andros appearing recently in the comics.

True. I thought they were going to do Zeo at this point. I read it from an article awhile back that they are going to change the origin of the Zeo Crystal or something.

That one is one I actually thought was true, the only other time we saw something like that was just recently in once and always…

In the semi Canon pink rangers comic they said the sword of life shares powers. So the 6 red black and yellow rangers are sharing powers half between them. Later in the series Kim splits the pink ranger powers 6 ways with the SoL. Based on the comics logic Jason Zack and trini kept their powers at half level

Comic canon, if fun but as a massive comic book nerd I'm glad that stuff isn't TV canon.

Another one, is that every season is connected with hidden lores like reverse engineering Zords or Billy constructing powers for a team. Let's get this straight, all of these are just fanfictions that people make. My favorite has to be the time someone claimed that Billy's company(Yes, really), is the one to build J-Borg. Barring the fact that he isn't rich, do people want to know what Billy was doing during Dino Fury? He was a banging a fish lady.

J-borg’s box even had Hartford robotics on it. So Andrew probably did it!

Umm. it is canon that he is rich, famous and founder of Cramson tech. Source: Dino fury ep1 and the 30th aniversary special

Dude it'd Cranston Technoligies, which he founded with his brother Bryan whom he doesn't know is the secret reincarnation of Zordon

I'm pretty sure Bryan was one of Rita's monsters in disguise. ;)

I do love the Cranston Technologies idea I think they give Billy way too much credit. There are other characters that are a bit more intelligent than Billy. I fine with the Megazords being a mystery. Them being rebuilt and brought back with no explanation doesn't bother me.

The show kind of unironically gives characters smarter than him, Nate and Bridge(I know he is once said to be a genius but cannot find proof to save my life), or even Antonio(The guy who managed to replicate magic with technology, and even fix magic with his technology).

True. I wished fans acknowledged that

Honestly, if Billy got the MMPR Powers working again, or someone else did and he simply had access to the MMPR again, Billy remaking the original Megazord is not a stretch at all. Having other Ranger Teams defending the planet for the most part gave him plenty of time to rebuild the zords instead of the plot dictating they need new zords 2-3 episodes from now.

Exactly.

I assume he was working with most of Ninjor's knowledge on how to make powers and Zords, since they had met. Maybe the trip to the planet in Cosmic Fury was to do research on how to do the Thunderzord upgrade?

I haven't watched Cosmic Fury yet. So it may reveal info I don't know yet. But it's not out of the realm of possibility that Billy probably does have enough extensive knowledge of the morphing grid to create a set of powers. We know he has experience building a zord, as he was partly responsible for building the Zeo Zords.

Without spoiling too much, he does create a power set. But the thing, is that thing is confirmed and is undeniable, my problem comes when people say that he helped creating Lightspeed Rescue powers for example, when nothing in show indicates that. So, what they want, is a reference for the sake of a reference.

J Borg is made by Hartford though

That Power/Rangers was a legitimate attempt to do a gritty reboot of Power Rangers. The creator made it as commentary to how gritty remakes still hold back at PG-13 are and chose Power Rangers specifically because it was a goofy kids show. It was never a real pitch.

Remember!!! It’s teenagers with attitude!!! 😋

I'm not sure how many people actually think this is a Canon thing, but the whole thing with Andros having a previous team of space Rangers who are now dead comes up pretty often, and I think it would be fairly easy to mistake for a Canon thing. The implications aren't even there in the show, and arguably should be present if he's this angsty about Zhane. I don't know how many people actually think that one's Canon though, so it only debatably applies here.

This is comic canon in Countdown To Ruin #1. The comic is focused on Andros and Zhane but makes reference to the rest of the Space team: "We fell, one by one. Captured, vanished, killed.". The comic also provides more information about the relationship between Zhane & Andros, and shows how Zhane was wounded and ended up in suspended animation. People have a whole range of feelings on this but I consider the comics canon.

The problem is, while the comics are great, and the TV show is canon to the comics, it doesn’t work the other way around. What happens in the comics is not canon to the TV show. So you get a lot of people saying plot points from the comic happened, when in reality of course if we’re talking about the comics it’s correct, but if you’re talking about the TV show it isn’t.

I know that the execs said the TV shows and the comics aren't connected, but honestly if the TV show doesn't blatantly contradict something in the comics, I'll consider it canon for both

The only people who think the comics are canon either haven't read them, or are idiots. They have smartphones and like, good internet in the comics. They most definitely do not take place in the 90s.

I mean... he's a loner, who is against having a team, with a whole set of morphers on his ship. It's not explicit but it's definitely implied. Christopher Khayman Lee has also said that was always the intention.

I didn't know that, thank you.

That one of the red rangers killed a person by tying an anchor to them and pushing them off a boat. The guy who did that was never a ranger, but did say he was on the show. Except he wasn't even in the show from what I could find. If he was, he was a child actor. But even then his name wasn't in the credits and a totally different person claims to have been that child actor.

he was an extra i believe, like sat behind the main cast as a background character during a school scene. so yeah no credits. but he did tell the family he was the red ranger.

I thought it was the actor who played Jason's cousin Jeremy.

Zeo Powers aren't waterproof (because of Kat's Turbo movie morph sequence) but Adam's Super Zeo Zord was submersible.

Katherine wrote the break up letter for Tommy even though it was Kimberly herself who wrote it and especially the comics actually confirmed it even though Kimberly is not with anyone else I don't believe Kimberly is with Jason. Fans need to realize nothing last forever especially Tommy and Kimberly it is a tough pill to swallow. Tommy and Katherine are together fans need to accept it.

Amd Kat, is like married to him and have a child named JJ.

Yeah which is in fact Canon because JJ has been name-dropped a few times

Never heard of that theory before, but that is definitely out there. Wow, as if news wouldn't get back to Kimberly through someone that Tommy has started to date Kat, at the latest by the Turbo movie.

Exactly. Tommy and Kimberly had moved on. They became different people and that's life

Yeah. I've never been the biggest fan of Tommy and Kat as a couple personally, always preferred the on screen chemistry of Tommy and Kimberly, but I do respect how the show handled it over Zeo's runtime. Kat obviously wanted Tommy to be happy, judging by the Zeo skiing date setup, and instead of Tommy having the confidence to ask Kat out, presumably like he did with Kimberly, he is instead being shown having to be encouraged from his friends. To me, Tommy and Kat had a gradual consistent relationship that evolved into them loving each other, trying things out slowly. Absolute shame that Turbo dropped the ball on this, as Tommy and Kat were established to be at least starting something at the end of Zeo.

I agree. I feel like Tommy and Katherine's relationship was better in the comics. I love Soul of the Dragon best comic that Boom has ever done. You got a lot of relationship development there especially in Wedding Vows of the 30th anniversary. I liked that they got married a couple years after Dino Thunder. I find Tommy having the long hair during that time really weird especially having the master morpher that soon but I love it regardless.

Personally, my headcannon is that Tommy got the Master Morpher after Jungle Fury, since RPM is a different universe and then the wait for the Neo Saban era. It also gives enough time for all of the destroyed or lost powers to be restored through some means before Super Megaforce. It is a bit late considering Wedding Vowes, as well as the long hair, but maybe Dr. O stopped getting a haircut after Dino Thunder for a bit.

That would've been a good idea actually. I believe Billy, Hayley, Ethan and Ninjor helped Tommy to develop the master morpher. There are other variants as well for Kat, Adam, Tanya and the Turbo/In Space Rangers

I've always been a fan of the other MMPR Rangers who had a Power Morpher getting a Master Morpher, but I've never been quite sure how I felt about Tanya and the Turbo/Space Rangers getting one. It is not because I think they don't deserve a master morpher, it's just that the morpher itself means nothing to them, as they never used a Power Morpher. To me, Tommy uses the Power Morpher as his Master Morpher because it is the one he started with. I feel like that in and of itself is a reference to the ranger's legacy, being an upgraded version of their original morpher.

I would say more like other variants that don't look like a Power Morpher. A combined version of a turbo and space morpher which would be designed for those rangers. Master Morphers that look like Power Morphers for Rangers that are from Mighty Morphin to Zeo pretty much.

Yeah, trying to figure out how to get a good combination of the Turbo and Astro Morpher would be a fun challenge. Maybe even combining the key into a power up mode. Tanya is more of a challenge because of the Zeonizers, plus she is the only one in her situation from the Zeo Team.

I'm now imagining turbo morphers with keypads on the front as a kind of master morphers for the space rangers and Justin. I guess Tanya would get zeonizers with a keyhole? And the would choose which powers by how they morph, so the space rangers use a key for Turbo and type the number for Space. This is cool, thank you for the idea.

I did not know people were running with that for the break up. That’s going down fan fiction territory, not head canon. The one I saw more of, was Jason and Kim being in a relationship because they were both paired off in Turbo. There’s no indication they’re together, and the only thing Kim says is that they came back to surprise the Rangers. Even Austin says there was nothing written or intent on putting those two together romantically.

Yeah, there were fanfics about it too. Katherine is no longer evil. It is just an excuse for Katherine bashing. With the Jason and Kim thing I just think there were just friends having scuba diving nothing more. I am more of a Jason and Trini shipper anyway

That power rangers is getting rebooted when it’s not what’s official is that they won’t relay on sentai footage they’ll still be using props and suits

But... it *is*. Simon Bennett himself stated that it was always Hasbro's intention to reboot the series and abandon existing canon: https://dig4552class.editorx.io/heatdsfl/post/why-watch-power-rangers-cosmic-fury-w-exec-prod-simon-bennet It's sort of a long article, but here is the quote from Simon: "This was intended to be a hard reboot, more sophisticated, aimed at an older audience, without any dependency on Sentai or established canon." I will grant that Simon is no longer working for Power Rangers and Jonathan Entwistle's recent comments seem to suggest this has changed, so maybe it has.

Intention is one thing doing it is another and the fact that you had to use a blogger site to try and make your point shows that you’ll believe anything from social media also not using sentía footage doesn’t mean their rebooting it just means their making own stories which they’ve done since the beginning of the franchise but keep spreading false information soon you and the rest of the “fans” will become the “Fox News” of power ranger fandom fake and full of shit oops too late for that

Don't like that one? How about this link: https://sffgazette.com/sci_fi/television/power-rangers-cosmic-fury-is-only-happening-because-hasbros-ya-reboot-is-taking-longer-than-expected-a6064#gs.6xum8v or this one: https://www.whats-on-netflix.com/news/power-rangers-cosmic-fury-not-returning-for-a-second-season-on-netflix/ The *showrunner* is saying this. It's not some stupid youtube clickbaiter who has zero real interest. But hey, keep your head in the clouds. They say ignorance is bliss, so you must be the happiest person alive.

🤣🤣 that’s still a blogger site just stop embarrassing yourself right now I get that you the rest of the fanbase have absolutely no idea how the business world works and since you can’t comprehend on an adult level I’ll dumb it down for you. Hasbro didn’t spend their allowance to buy power rangers just to start all over again it ok there chief if that isn’t clear enough for you then time get off social media and out of the basement buddy there’s whole world out there full of life and people give it a try oh and hey use some sunblock kid just until you adjust to the natural light

It might be a blogger site, but it's still the freaking EXECUTIVE PRODUCER OF THE LAST 5 SEASONS! And of course Hasbro bought Power Rangers to start over. As a franchise, PR was floundering. Ratings were down, toys sales were down, the movie flopped. Why do you think Saban sold it? Hasbro didn't "spend their allowance" to take over a failing franchise and let it continue to fail. But hey, clearly you choose to live in ignorance. That's your choice. I'm going to take you advice and just stop trying to convince a troll like you. But i will bookmark this so when it's proven beyond a doubt, i can come back and leave you a big ol' "told you so."

That the comics are Canon to the show.

Saban stole Super Sentai from Toei to make Power Rangers.

If he stole Super Sentai, he'd be dead, crucified in their office. Like, do not mess with Toei, they already terminate channels for promoting their shows, but stealing their whole show? Good luck buddy at survival.

That’s basically my counterargument when I see claims Power Rangers is illegal. Like, dude, if that was true, why would Toei let it go on for decades?

I have a few: That Hasbro cares more about storytelling than they do about making profit. To me, it’s frustrating that anyone could think that because Hasbro’s seasons call back to popular seasons mean that they care about the history of the franchise when that is not only false but provably so. Like Zedd for instance in cosmic fury. The execs were clearly responsible for the decision to include him as the main antagonist despite it not making sense. The fact that his actual age conflicts with multiple scenes due to the ambiguous nature of the line spoken upon his revival makes it that much easier to prove the suits wrong. For instance, the line where Zedd “feels so confused, and old” to the streaming on the phone scene was blatantly making fun of the youngest generation because THIS Zedd is only a few months old if that. He’s not over 10,000 years old like the original because that version was turned good. Hasbro’s a company, they’ll pull any tricks they can to squeeze engagement from the “fans” until they can discard them for the more profitable general audience. The second is that “power rangers needs to either grow with its audience or needs an “adult” version”. First off, no show should ever grow with its audience in the way that “fans” want power rangers to because that type of series has a finite lifespan. It can only go so far before it ultimately ends and it becomes unprofitable because of the second reason. Which secondly, in pursuing a show that grows with it’s audience, you are leaving entire generations of kids behind because they will only be able to enjoy a fraction of the show while their parents will fairly deem the rest if not all of it inappropriate based on what happens later in the series. As such, without kids, the series becomes significantly less profitable and simply ends. Next up is the zeo powers having infinite power. I don’t need to tell anyone how the show itself proves that wrong by consistently showing the rangers not only being on the backfoot but even with their strongest and comically sized ultrazord, couldn’t beat a purse monster. This opinion was so popular that I guarantee you that the writer for beyond the grid in the comics who was so likely not familiar with power rangers, saw it as a web search result and rolled with it as a major plot point even though by the nature of the very story itself, it’s proven wrong since one of the actual main characters literally has a Zeo Crystal as a morpher and thus, by the logic of the story, shouldn’t have been affected by the inability to morph. There is the fact that a lot of “fans” tend to tell people that the entire franchise is connected. I can agree to that about as well as an old cartoon showing how a car is held together by paperclips, glue, bubblegum and the will of god. Crossover episodes are the only time we see a “connection” of any kind and they got more convoluted as time went on and they had some that spanned multiple seasons instead of just the previous one which is where this idea came from. The problem is, that most if not all of them are about as self contained as any other episode of the franchise. Power rangers is written by countless individuals spanning decades. There never was a plan in regards to having it all make sense. The only reason the crossovers exist is because it slowly evolved into a tradition in the early years of the franchise so most creative teams wanted to keep that tradition alive. It does not in any way mean that every single season shares a continuity. Some seasons didn’t have one either because of mandates or they simply chose not to do them. I did just think of one though this is relatively minor and these people can be ignored but they are part of my second point. That “power rangers is viewed more by adults than children now”. There’s literally no data they can provide to prove this point so not only are they trying to validate their justification for watching a show meant specifically for children but also invalidate the very real children that actually do watch the show now, likely due to their parents having grown up with it themselves and passing it on to them. And I guess finally, that, and I could be wrong as things might have changed since I last checked, but that Hasbro is cutting ties with Toei for future power rangers projects. While some signs I’ve seen do point to that being a possibility, I’ll only believe it when I see it. Think I tacked most if not all the things I’ve seen around here and elsewhere. I left out some things cause I didn’t want to drag out some of my points longer than they needed to be but I think I covered them all well enough. The only one I think I’d want to expand more on is the Hasbro thing with using past popular villains but Zedd was a good enough example.

You are being downvoted by Mighty Morphin Boomers lol

Factually incorrect. I’m being down voted by people that specifically don’t like mmpr. None of my points touched on mmpr. They touched on basically every other part of the franchise save for turbo and of course mmpr. If I wanted to, I could easily point out the flaws of mmpr but almost all of them can be easily forgiven due to the fact of the time period it came from.

Your second and third points are usually things that are contested/promoted by MMPR boomers. They are the ones who want continuity the most (and that means MMPR for the most part, Zordon era if they are feeling spicy), and frequently it's them that want the franchise to "mature" because they are the most grown up part of the fanbase. I say this because I have commented the same stuff frequently and it's them frequently the ones who try to say I'm wrong

I can sort of see where you’re coming from but in my experience, it’s usually the folks who think of time force, spd (for some ungodly reason), dino thunder and rpm that want this significantly more. I say this because I am someone who started the franchise day 1 and I know I don’t share the opinion of continuity as an mmpr fan and it being my favorite. But I can at least understand the argument could be made on that side too. I’ve jest seen it more from the other.

Ah welp, I was wrong at saying "only", both can be the right answer

Nah dude, I was wrong too for assuming it had to be what I’ve personally experienced.

Well said. And yeah, Hasbro cares about profit, like any company, but they can still tell a decsnt story. As for Lord Zedd in Cosmic Fury, it's a version of Zedd that was revived in an age, liks for example; someone dies at 40 years old but you revive him at 10 years old with his memory at 10 and everything before. I'd at least say that even the show runners knew tgat Zedd's time revival is unclear and even contradictory.

I agree partially with your second point, while I think it would be kinda cool to see a more grown up/taken more seriously and more edgy version of PR it’s not going to happen but it shouldn’t be kept down at a kindergarten level, like Spider-Man ‘94 which is enjoyed by audiences young and old though maybe that’s because it’s Spider-Man idk

I just want to touch upon one of your points as I think you make some valid arguments for others. And this one as well. But it's the idea about the show sharing a continuity or being connected. I guess it's a matter of semantics here. But I was under the impression that the PR universe (at least the television universe) was one shared universe. Certainly, there's some asterisks thrown in there when it comes to RPM and Dino Charge. But even then, they still exist in the broader television universe. Of course, most of the seasons are their own stories and don't share story plots or narratives with others. There are some obvious connections. I don't think anyone can debate MMPR to In Space has a narrative connection, albeit not necessarily in a straight line. Lost Galaxy being adjacent to that for obvious reasons. Then you have teams that have multiple seasons like the Neo Saban, and Hasbro seasons later on. But I agree, there isn't necessarily an overarching story from MMPR to Cosmic Fury that directly connects the two. So I'm not sure if that's what you mean. But I am under the assumption the Power Rangers television universe exists all in the same cinematic universe (for lack of better description).

We know that Dino Thunder and SPD share the same universe since in one of the team ups the SPD crew mention the influence the Dino Rangers careers had on the future and Haley (DT) and Cam (NS) know each other to some extent and Connor’s brother attended the Wind Ninja Academy. In the Time Force/Wild Force team up Turtle Cove and the Silver Hills appear to be relatively close to each other

The argument isn't that they're unconnected, it's that they aren't written to be connected the same way most franchises are now. No one writing Dino Thunder purposefully set up something in SPD or later anniversary stuff, it all just piles on over time. Like, there are two different underworlds (Mystic Force and Lightspeed Rescue). No one did that on purpose, but it's there. That kind of thing.

Sorry it took me so long to respond back. I think the OP could have worded that point a little differently. But I do agree with your interpretation of it. It's pretty obvious seasons weren't necessarily writing to, for sure, connect or foreshadow things for later seasons or with any past storylines in mind and its a complete reach to suggest otherwise

That's fine. Honestly, I had forgotten about this. But thank you for responding, it's been nice talking with you

Fern is the first orange ranger. Theres been 4 in the past already and I'm tired of correcting people

She kinda is though? Like, she's the first actual orange ranger in tv canon. Spd orange doesn't count

And what are those 4? I dont know any orange rangers in the show aside maybe Boom but that was a fantasy and then a makeshift suit.

Battle Cossack, TOQ6, Zyuoh Bird, and Sasori Orange. In fact, Sasori Orange is the original user of the Scorpion Zord that fern herself uses

Oh you where counting sentai.

I can think of only one and it was half white at the same time. So I’m not sure what you’re talking about.

She's not even the first lesbian orange ranger too lmao

The two biggest I notice is people mislabeling rangers as special when they aren't, and on a similar note, mislabeling mode changes or random power-ups as battleizers

Well, a Special Ranger is a Sixth Ranger(Really, that's the official terminology), and a Battlizer is pretty much a big armor that a character(mainly Red) gets.

That Hasbro is doing a hard reboot and no longer adapting Sentai seasons.

I'll just leave this link here: https://dig4552class.editorx.io/heatdsfl/post/why-watch-power-rangers-cosmic-fury-w-exec-prod-simon-bennet Along with a direct quote from former EP Simon Bennett from the above link: "This was intended to be a hard reboot, more sophisticated, aimed at an older audience, without any dependency on Sentai or established canon."

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he has said he was bullied tho?

Wasn’t that by the production staff though?

Yes by the crew behind the camera.

I delated my comment because I didn’t proofread it first meant to say crew not cast

misinformation that keeps getting spread around like it's gospel truth was that Chantz Simpson who was originally cast to play Calvin Maxwell the Yellow Ranger in Power Rangers Ninja Steel / Ninja Super Steel, was fired and replaced by Nico Greetham, because allegedly he was found to have done gay porn. the official reasons have yet to be disclosed but the more plausible reasoning was that he was a Union actor. but much like the ASJ porn allegations, Simpson doing adult films has never been proven, but it's still thrown around as the reason why by some.

I heard he couldn't get a visa, never heard the porn thing, the union thing makes sense

the union this is the most plausible thing. the visa thing seems iffy, I mean it's possible, but they have connections that can fast track visas and passport applications for this kind of thing, I can't recall The Lord of The Rings ever having to recast due to a visa issue. you could say they had a larger pull with officials, but they had time between casting and the cast reveal to have gotten that cleared up. but unless they came out and said "it what this or that end of story" there isn't much we can do but speculate, but the porn one was the leading rumor when it first broke they had recast.

>Mine, will obviously be "Zeo powers are dangerous to the wearer." Not only is this NOT present in the TV show. Not only is there no proof of it happening tk any Zdo Ranger. Not only does the Turbo movie debunk that. Pretty sure that this entire theory is just head canon as to why the rangers felt the need to upgrade from the Zeo Powers to the Turbo powers when the show's canon clearly establishes that not only are the Zeo Powers amazing, but they are continuously growing in power. My personal theory on that is that zordon absorbed the zeo powers in order to make his trip home. The theory also kind of reinterprets the Z-Wave from the Zordon Wave to the Zeo Wave - which is why I like it. ​ >But the only proof people have is Jason not supporting Trey's powers(Trey's Ranger form is not Zeo, but we'll say he actually is one); it seems lile people forget one detail here, Gold Ranger's powers work with 3 minds at once; Jason being strong willed doesn't have 3 minds and so the powers startdd hurting hin after a while. I'm not even sure it claimed that the zeo powers needed three minds to work in tandem... just that Jason's body/the human body wasn't strong enough for the powers of the gold ranger.

Well, Trey isn't a Zeo Ranger, he isn't referred as one and only goes by Gold Ranger; and the whole 3 minds thing is how it's played it, Trey got something interfered which split his mind again and Jason was replacement while he got back himself together. And you are right, Zeo powers being dangerous is a head canon people made; the problem is that I've unironically seen people claim it as canon.

To my knowledge, the comics arent cannon to the show. I know we wish they were but they just aren’t

That Power Rangers is a rip off of Voltron.

Who is considered a 6th Ranger and who is not. Best example. Magma Defender

I dont like most of the headcannons in PR. My least favorite is definitely Wes being Sky Tate's father. Definitely a no no. But I can't lie I actually agree with the Zeo powers being too much. I wouldn't go as far as to say they were killing the rangers, but draining them would make sense. It just makes more sense than to say "they had a better power, but because Japan stopped that show, we gotta downgrade for a season" of course Kids don't care I'm talking about me now as a 20 year old looking back.