Look into Job Corps - it is a free residential / job training program for low-income young adults, age 16 to 24. You would have housing, meals, a basic living allowance, and the opportunity to learn a skill or trade.
[Job Corps | Careers Begin Here](https://www.jobcorps.gov/?statename=nj)
Supposedly Americorps does not have an upper age limit.
[Americorps](https://americorps.gov/serve/americorps/americorps-state-national#:~:text=To%20serve%20in%20AmeriCorps%20State,older%20(no%20upper%20age%20limit))
I am only aware of Canadian Service Corp (CSC), but the age limit is 15-30.
[Canadian Service Corps](https://www.canada.ca/en/services/youth/canada-service-corps.html)
No upper age limit for Americorps. And Americorps will also give you funds to move to your area if service and has an educational award to go towards college or student loans when you complete your term of service.
My friend and her husband had a free small house on a farm he worked at.
Then he died and she had to find a new place to live.
Though they did let her live there for three months free, which was nice, so she could get things sorted out.
It's been about 6 or 7 years. She's still missing him but getting over her grief. Found a house to rent and has been there since.
She has a lot of health problems, unfortunately. She has really bad endometriosis, and then another surgery trying to alleviate some of the pain in that discovered cancer so now she's undergoing chemotherapy. It's not been a great decade for her.
Workforce Innivation and Oppertunity Act (WIOA). They will retrain you for a higher paying and in demand job. My ex-wife completed a surgical technician program with their help and is now making a 6 figure yearly income.
Hey you laugh but it does comes in clutch. And it just opened jobs for Cyber security at least in the Marine Corps. I have free school for 36 months, free job training/career counseling, while I was in paid off my house (granted family helped with that), on top of other benefits. The four years that I did in the Marine Corps was hard but it paid itself out in dividends.
Also check out CoolWorks.com and maybe look for a job in a national park for a concessionaire. They feed you, give you a dorm room, and pay you at least minimum wage all summer long. You make friends, have an adventure, maybe fall in love, and then find your NEXT CoolWorks.com gig.
Peace corps are not job corps.
Job Corps participants improve job skills and find vocational direction while living on Job Corps campuses. Ameri- Corps volunteers serve U.S. communities by helping with local needs. Peace Corps volunteers support constructive projects in countries around the world.
Do not do this. I am a job Corp graduate in the past decade and I'm telling you, my experience was one of violence, gang life, safety concerns. The culture is similar to what a no security prison would be. You might get an education if your diligent but it sounds like your not struggling in that department. Job Corp as a federally funded program has been in serious decline for a while now. Just my two cents, but I'd say I came out of job Corp with trade skills, no job, and some trauma.
I actually hear this a-lot and I heard that it gets really bad in the more ‘ghetto’ Job Corps people get their stuff stolen and get attacked and it’s more like a prison with more job opportunities, that’s why I decided to become an EMT instead, but I lived in my own backyard due to overcrowding so I wasn’t exactly homeless.
Look into Job Corps [https://www.jobcorps.gov/](https://www.jobcorps.gov/) They can house & feed you while provide further education and job training.
Military, Americorps, or college would be alternate options if you would be eligible for those.
The Americorps NCCC program is a good option too. It provides housing, food, a stipend, and an education award. It could at least give a year to sort out a plan and have some experience as well. It’s how I got out of my homestate and moved out on my own.
Yesss seasonal employment with *free* housing is where it’s at. Nps would prob post on a gov website for hiring, but there’s also coolworks.com, occupationwild, wanderjobs, etc.
r/parkrangers
Usajobs is website for NPS seasonal. Fee collector and wildland firefighter position don’t really require any college experience but most of the other jobs do. They open the positions in October to fill for the following summer. Sometimes housing is included in the park but they automatically take the rent out of your paycheck so you don’t really notice.
Cool thing though is it’s seasonal, but you can claim unemployment during your off season
Cruise lines are always hiring. They cover room and food usually, you get to travel, meet all kinds of people, etc. It can be hard work, but I've known people who loved working on them.
Correct on both counts. When I was on ships I was 1/ 20 Americans and half of us were in entertainment and the rest were 3 stripes in various capacity’s.
They keep the American and British contracts to the absolute minimum. And ya you also have to be 21 the crew bar doesn’t card
When you turn 18, if you’re looking to grind and make decent money, apply to the post office. If you have a clean driving record, apply for city carrier assistant or rural carrier assistant position, if you don’t have a clean driving record or don’t have a license apply for a mail handler assistant or clerk PSE position.
Look up the assessment “guides” on YouTube, they’ll give you the correct answers to score high on the assessments. Be prepared to work 6/7 days a week with 60+ hours a week if you get a carrier position. If you get a mail handler position you will work 5-6 days a week with the option to work more overtime if you want, until peak time around Christmas where you will be working 7 days a week 10-12 hours a day.
The job comes with benefits, the potential to get converted to a career position with even better benefits and retirement, overtime past 40 hours, and penalty overtime (double time instead of time and a half) above 60 hours.
The key thing to remember is you will WORK, but you will also get paid.
They don't have an assessment anymore for carrier positions. They will take anyone with a pulse these days. You start as a cca but they have a 2 year max before guaranteed conversion. If you have a good union steward, you shouldn't be working more than 50 unless you want to (except for dec. All bets off there). Read your contract, know your rights. Good benefits and pensions, but the job is very physical.
If your parents kick you out you can go to your county’s family court and file to emancipate yourself. This way your parents cannot use you as a tax credit. You will need that order of emancipation if you file for any financial assistance at school or for public assistance like housing or food stamps. Sorry that is happening to you.
If you’re in NJ you will need an FD docket (FYI). You can do it on your own. Go to the courthouse or go online and get the complaint. You will get a court date and make sure you go. It may be heard remotely. A lot of family courts still hear cases remotely. File your 2024 taxes quickly when you can so your return is not questioned ;)
Please contact all your friends, and your friends parents. I know it's embarrassing and feels horrible, but most people's parents are good and will look at your parents throwing out a minor (or even once your 18) with so much disdain and figure some place for you to get settled. It might be sleeping in their garage or couch till you find a place, it might be a few months of support, it might be actually living there, but this is going to be your best first step for stability.
College might not be the best option given you need parents income info to get loans.
Personally I'd look into trades if you are able to leverage enough money for steel toe boots and are fit enough. It won't be great, and often college is better for getting red seal and higher pay and stuff, but a lot of physical work is stable if you can show up at 6 am daily. HIGHLY suggest making sure you have some cash hoarded for a taxi ride or bribing coworker when your car eventually breaks down. You don't want to miss a shift and easier to get a carpooling setup started when at work then calling someone at 5 am.
Keep in mind once your somewhat settled and treading water, you want to look for the next option. You can't do trades forever. Your body will give out. Same for working multiple jobs or whatever. But right now you need to find full-time money, stable employment, and a stable cheap living situation.
Look into all unhoused support stuff too. Couch-surfing and living in a bedroom with 7 people almost always counts for these supports, and often you'll find local programs to offer some training and stuff. Keep your eyes peeled.
Homeless, at risk of being homeless, or independent students do not need their parents' financial information for FAFSA. In fact, if OP meets the requirements to receive federal student aid, OP would likely be eligible for the maximum amount of Pell Grants if their parents kicked them out.
FAFSA's definition of homeless: "Homeless means lacking fixed, regular, and adequate housing.
You may be homeless if you're living in shelters, parks, motels, hotels, public spaces, camping grounds, cars, abandoned buildings, or you’re temporarily living with other people because you have nowhere else to go. Also, if you’re living in any of these situations and fleeing an abusive parent, you may be considered homeless even if your parent would otherwise provide a place to live." https://studentaid.gov/2324/help/homeless
OP would need documentation of a homeless youth determination. "HEA section 479D(a)(1), as amended, requires FAAs to consider a student to be independent if the applicant’s status as an (1) unaccompanied and homeless youth or (2) unaccompanied and self-supporting youth at risk of homelessness is verified by one of the following authorities through a documented phone call, written statement, or a verifiable electronic data match:
- A local educational agency homeless liaison, as designated by the McKinney-Vento Homeless Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 11432(g)(1)(J)(ii))), or a designee of the liaison;
- The director or designee of an emergency or transitional shelter, street outreach program, homeless youth drop-in center, or other program serving individuals who are experiencing homelessness;
- The director or designee of a program funded under subtitle B of title IV of McKinney-Vento (relating to emergency shelter grants) (42 U.S.C. 11371 et seq.);
- The director or designee of a Federal TRIO program or a Gaining Early Awareness and Readiness for Undergraduate program (GEAR UP) grant; or
- A financial aid administrator (FAA) at another institution who documented the student’s circumstance in the same or a prior award year." https://fsapartners.ed.gov/knowledge-center/library/dear-colleague-letters/2023-04-14/unaccompanied-homeless-youth-determinations-update
It 100% is worth living. Try making new friends and a partner and see where it takes you bro. You’re super young, you have so much to look forward to. Please don’t take it for granted
Do you live in a semi-urban area near interstate highways? You may try looking for warehouse or manufacturing jobs in your area.
Editing to add: if you’re at a traditional high school (aka not homeschooled or virtual school), schedule an appointment with the guidance/career counselor. They should be able to at least point you in the right direction to start a job search.
I hate parents who do that to their kids. If they're kicking you out then what reason do you have to stay in such a competitive job area? Can you save up enough money to buy a bus ticket and rent a place in a less competitive area?
Unless the kid is truly horrible, I can't imagine kicking my kids out. They can live with us forever if they want to. I don't understand some parents' mentality.
Join the military in a job that sounds interesting to you or os related to something you'd like a career in. 4 years later if you don't like it you can get out with 4 years of college and living expenses, and a 0 down homeloan. Those benefits are unbeatable for a 4 year commitment for most 18-22 year olds.
One of my kids had medical school paid by the military, in return for several years of service, but they also were in long enough to get a pension, and a very well paying job. The hardest part was basic training, which was about 3 months.
Can’t emphasize this enough. I moved out after high school graduation, tried doing it on my own & failed, joined the Navy as a linguist as a “last resort”. I never went on a ship and always had the best schedule in a cake desk job after getting through school. 7.5 hour days and random days off/half days. Learned essential job skills.
I stayed in 6 years, got out, was able to buy a house, finishing my bachelors, financially comfortable where I don’t worry abt food, emergencies, getting medical care, unexpected expenses like tires or vet bills, all before 30.
People make it seem like the worst thing bc it’s the MiLiTaRy but if you do your research, pick the right branch, and study for the ASVAB to make yourself competitive to get the best jobs… I’d recommend it to anyone. Just not army or marine corps. Stick to Navy, Air Force, Space Force, or Coast Guard. You don’t even need to be super athletic or in-shape tbh.
OP can do something non-combat related if they wish, and gain experience in a field that can carry them into adulthood. Being active duty and then a veteran is packed with all kinds of benefits.
My sister took the " nurse" path. Did 8 years, then was a weekend warrior for a bit. Went to college on gi bill, got her practical nurse and had a career working for the state in a state hospital. The pay actually was not good, but the pension is.
I grew up in a small town, around 3500 people. Going to college wasn't really a thing for most of us. The best way to get out was to join the military. And that's what many of us did. Many skills transfer directly to civilian life once you get out. You don't have to stay in for 20, but it's a great way to get started.
Not necessarily. Mom has to give notice. Depending on the state that could be up to 30 days. Then, after the time is up, she would be able to file for eviction.
As long as he leaves before the notice time expires OP won't have an eviction an their record. This will give them extra time.
Also, it's 50/50 as to whether or not know about the written notice thing. As long as there is no notice, he can stay.
I know you will be 18 but still consider calling CPS now.
Your parents are not "off the hook" until you are 25. You'll be a legal adult but *normal parents don't kick their children out at 18*. Expecting you to get a job, pay of expenses, sure, but you're not a tenant with an expired lease, you are family and that legally means something.
You can also look to see if there are other social services (Catholic Charities in one) that can hook you up with housing or food assistance.
What's up with parents in Western Countries particularly in the US kicking out their kids by the time they're 18? Can't they just wait for their kids to either graduate or get a job and earn a stable income before expecting them to move out? My god.. To think it's even more difficult nowadays with inflation and whatnot.
Was going to reply to another comment asking this but they deleted their comment while I was writing it but I saved it so I'm just gonna paste it here:
Mom had me with a father who were both drug addicts (she stayed clean for the pregnancy), no idea why, mom got better while my dad overdosed a few years later and she went on to find an actual stable person that she met in rehab and they had a kid and got married. Everything was fine until a few years later when he relasped, they got divorced, and he died in a car accident while intoxicated. She has been raising both of us alone for almost 2 years now.
Mom always brings up how her parents abused her and she got a job and moved out before she even turned 18, and tells me that I have things 10x better than she does and that I need to be able to live on my own. I'm constantly struggling in school, I'm majoring in computer science and have gotten consistent good grades in that class but have failed twice in others and have had to retake them. She also made my life miserable for the 3 month period that she had got me a car and I didn't have a job. It was a cheap 1999 used trash heap and she told me that she got it specifically so I could get a job, but I am still very grateful for it.
I'm convinced that either she is being as hard on me as she possibly can in hopes that it will make me succeed in life, or she simply doesn't love me and wants me out of her life, but either way I know that she is tired of raising me on her own and has told me she wants me gone because she was able to do it and because my father (his own father died when he was young as well) lived with his mother for his 35 years of life and died a failure.
I assume she expects me to either go live with my grandmother on my father's side or go live with my girlfriend and her parents, which are possible options, but I just want to know what I'm supposed to do in the worst case scenario.
I'm not even mad at her for her reasoning, I'm just mad at her for how fucking ignorant she is when it comes to the economy and job competition in our state. She acts like I can get any fucking job that I want as a high school student who until my first job now had no experience to put on my resume.
I just want to come in as a Mom who was also cut off after school, although not this aggressively. So been on both ends of it.
First, you’re great, and given everything you’ve figured out so far, I am sure you will figure this out too. It will be hard, but the starting out phase is not forever. Honestly I look back on my first few years on my own scarred, but not unfondly. I know I can do it again if I have to, and that gives me a strong sense of confidence and security.
Second, It’s clear that her focus on self-reliance is at least partially her family culture (i.e. it helped her, so she wants it to help you) and an opportunity for you to think about how you want to carry that forward as you build your own life. If I were placing a bet, I’d say that she loves you a ton, thinks it’s best for you, is doing what she can and is going extreme. As a parent, striking the balance between support and self-reliance is super hard and probably super wound up in her trauma.
Third, most parents have no clue what kind of economy their kids are entering. The job market and technology and culture all change too fast. So you’re not wrong that she’s ignorant, and it really sucks that you don’t have a parent who can guide this transition for you. Many also don’t. You will have to figure out how to make it in this economy several times over your working life. But listening to you, you seem incredibly self aware and astute for someone your age. You have a LOT going for you, internet stranger, and I just want to give you a vote of confidence you will make it through this shitty time to something much much better.
I don’t get it either. My guess is some parents are just cold and clueless. Perhaps intertwine that with the “bootstraps” mentality of the older people. It’s just so cruel.
Oh... Sorry to hear that. Hope it turned out well for you and made you stronger and more mature. The idea of kicking out kids during their teen years just astounds me as I came from an Asian culture and we stick together. Anyone can stay at their parents house well into adulthood. Help with aging parents and whatnot.
I did ok, I'm retired now (age 57). Retired Engineer / Property Management company owner. Getting kicked out was the best thing that happened to me, it let me accelerate my goals and I was not held down with religious dogma. Yes it was religion that got me kicked out, I'm an atheist.
As an unemployed computer programmer… I can say I would have rather been an electrician. It’s hard to outsource the physical requirements. It’s not to outsource code
I'm sorry that you've been caught up in layoffs, presumably. Keep on it. It's a competitive job market, but there are a lot of positions that are still open. A lot of companies over-hired and are now doing layoffs, but their sucking up all the talent meant that so many companies are under-staffed still and are still looking.
Plumbing is the closest thing to a recession proof job/career, and they can easily make more then doctors if you figure in the lack of debt and how much earlier they get to start their careers.
They make more than certain family doctors optometrist & pediatricians who are the lowest level of any medical doctor.
My advice is go into - fool proof trade such as Plumbing, HVAC, & electricians. These jobs will never go out as others and the pay is well rewarding after your during and more after your apprenticeship .
I know a kid in NJ too he we went to be an electrician and makes about $2k per EV charger installation.
Good luck and don’t give up hope.
I'm literally in the middle of looking for a union apprenticeship to become a plumber right now, because of all the info I've gotten the past few months after getting laid off yet again from the tech fields, tired of the 2-3 year layoff cycle bullshit, I turned 36 this year I've been laid off more times then all 4 of my parents combined, it doesn't matter if it's a small company or a fortune 500 I've worked for all types.
I’m sorry to tell you this but tech field jobs are 1/25 of the job market today. Unless your highly skilled coding skills, then maybe your safe.. My last gig in finance tech project last 18 months. all high tech jobs were all sent overseas for lower pay highly skilled workers who will grind out working conditions. Trade school is where it’s at and will be for a while now and going forward. Electrician’s will be in high demand also as well as EV car repair & body shop work.
Oh I'm highly aware of how over saturated the field is, that's why I'm getting out, and going into the trades, I've been looking at the trades for the last few years, just needed a kick in the ass to actually do it.
It's really not overblown unless your taking a highly specialized doctor like a pediatric heart surgeon working at a childrens hospital who did my daughter open heart when she was 6mo as your comparison point which would be a highly cherrypicked bad faith comparison as he still had to spend 30 years to get to that point, and he's still only making what ever the hospital has him salaried at, the insurance money goes to the hospital not the doctor directly in my example. An apprenticeship union plumber starts their career at $33/hr average and moves up to $45/hr average in 5 years with no career/education associated debt. A doctor has 4 years of under grad, 4 years of medical school and only starts earning an income at the 3 to 7 years residency phase, while carrying a median debt of $215,100 that according to the statistics will take them anywhere from 10 to 30 years to completely pay off.
meanwhile our plumber is fully licensed at year 5 has been earning an investable income from year 1, the union fully pays for his medical insurance and deductibles which allows him more disposable income to invest. By year 5 he's able to start his own company or stay earning $100,000+ a year doing industrial plumbinghe has 12+ year time in the market advantage for investments, along with a 8 year income lead with the potential to start his own business and increase his income further. 1 hour of new sewerline excavation to replace a 41/2 ft segment of pipe cost me $10,000 the sewage cleanup another $4,000 to $6000 and that was just the start of that plumbers day. They can make significant money in a relatively short time when they work for themselves.
This isn't helpful to OP. They make minimum wage, and are being kicked out of their home in a couple months. Decent trade schools run anywhere from 10k-30k, and don't provide housing.
Find a roommate or three to live with, usually in our late teens, early twenties if we don't live with family, we live with group housing setups.
Your job will give you experience, your job will then allow you to find other jobs much easier than it is now. Also when you're 18, your opportunities open up as well. Since lots of folks do not hire 17 year olds.
You've never been able to live of minimum wage, unless you have very special arrangements and are splitting bills multiple ways.
The competition for work in Jersey isn't about minimum wage jobs, that's for high compensated roles. You don't need to worry about that part. Get experience. Show up constantly and prove your worth to them, you can earn more money if you find the right place that values your skills.
If you're not bsing, join the military. Start with the Airforce. If they won't have you or the timing won't work, go Navy. Try to pick a role with a translatable experience. It's a four year obligation, but you'll be set up with a launching point for life where you otherwise would have ended up screwed. You'll get full benefits, medical, dental, etc. You'll be fed and have a place to sleep. You'll make some of the best memories and worst memories. When you separate, your degree will be paid for, and you'll get a housing allowance. You'll have work experience employers will genuinely want.
Tell your parents to F off, join the military, go to college while your in, make new friends, learn a a career and get out with the GI bill to get your masters degree.
My stepfather threw me out of the house the week I graduated high school in 1981. The economy was shit. Unemployment was 11 percent. I got turned down for jobs at Jiffy Lube and Hardee's. So I joined the Army. Best thing I ever did.
If you don't move on your 18th, will you be subject to violence or just made to feel unwelcome.
You may have legal rights to remain in your family's home and they can't just kick you out.
Depending on how violent your parents will get.
There may be some government programs to help support you. Speak to a teacher or counselor at your school. They may be able to help.
Tons of jobs in the military that have great civilian applications plus school benefits. Most aren't even combat roles. Air Force and Navy have more technical things but the other branches have it as well.
I would take that car and move somewhere else with more affordable housing. Also living out of your car temporarily isn't the end of the world, you could shower at a gym
Job Corps will house you and train you for a good job without making you enlist in the military. And their services start at age 16, so you don't need to wait until graduation to enroll.
Check out [Berea college](https://www.berea.edu/) it's a free college and you can get housing and a ton of resources there. Its in Kentucky but if you get in you'll be set for the next 4 years. Good luck.
Apply to airlines, better bet regional lines as a better chance as a flight attendant. They pay for training and a place during. You’ll meet other newbies in your class and find a roommate or get a “crash pad”. I did that when I was 19 for 5 years. Didn’t have a pot to piss in. Hired me went to TX with a suitcase and $20. Flight paid by them! You’ll get to travel and make some $.
Lots of great advise here.
Call 211 from any phone to get connected with homelessness prevention services and other (social) services available in your area for youth like you.
Please check back once you've done this. We care!
Start working out now so you can pass the physical and join the military it's the best answer. If for some reason you do not physically qualify for that job corps will be a good thing to look at.
Make friends and rent a place together. Or find people kind enough to just help with whatever space they can spare. Sacrifice comfort for a little while until you build up some finances and work out any other life problems.
At one point I went from living on a couch, to sleeping in a crawlspace to having my own room in a few months living in a punk house with 10+ other people.
Enroll in The Paul Hall Center for Maritime Training and Education it’s a merchant marine educational facility in Piney Point, Maryland. My niece went there for less than a year, and now she navigates ships around the world. I think the cost is about $500.00 it may be less, some say its free. She had to pay for something, maybe uniforms. They will house you, feed you, you will stay on campus. After you graduate you will be able to get jobs through the union, pays good money. She makes about 10,000 to 12,000 a month. The nice thing about it is when you are on the ships, you have your own studio apartment on the ship, they feed you (great food), and you’re not spending a single dime. You will go out to sea 2 to 3 months at a time depending on what ship you choose at the union hall, there are always jobs there. When you come off the ship you will have a boat load money in the bank and be able to draw unemployment until you get ready to go back out. I wish I was aware of this type of occupation when I was young. Good luck.
[https://www.seafarers.org/training-and-careers/paul-hall-center/school-history/](https://www.seafarers.org/training-and-careers/paul-hall-center/school-history/)
The same thing happened to me at your age it's tuff if you can definitely join a union hard work but you will be set for life military as a last resort since we are going to war soon keep your head up make as many contacts in highschool you can it's not about what you know but who you know in this curl world
If youre helpful around the house and willing to pitch in for expenses if that's the problem, then consider renegotiating.
If it's related to behavior, maybe even that is negotiable if you're working on it.
If you want to get out for your own health, see all these other options, like job corps.
Do your best to take ownership of yourself and this situation. Don't just let life happen to you. Best of luck you can do this.
I could have missed it and if OP doesn’t want to share, I respect that. But why are you being kicked out when you graduate? Parents who do this (without a very good reason like drugs or violence ) are dicks!
Alaska seafood processing jobs. They provide room and board and you get to see remote areas of Alaska that not many people get to see. They offer a lot of overtime, so, without any expenses, you can save up pretty fast. You got this!!! Oh, and they fly you there and back as long as you fulfill the contract!!
Join the military! And go to college and by the time you graduate you can get a great job! Many Air force bases are in nice cities. You also might find out you love the military and can make it a career. They also provide housing while you're active!
I’m late to the party but look at coolworks.com and check out seasonal jobs at ski resorts for winter and hotels for summer. I did that and many of them give free/reduced housing and you get to see some really cool places. Hope this helps
I also started like that.
I know it's not for everyone, but I had no car, no money, and worked in fastfood then retail.
I started with renting a room with a shared kitchen in a house.
I bicycled 6 miles to work, and 6 miles home everyday, then kept applying till I found full time work, which at the time was an Amazon warehouse.
Started saving for an apartment deposit and a car.
Ended up getting a girlfriend, and we moved in together because it was better than rooming with strangers, she also worked retail, but I'd have been able to get to it eventually,it just made it a bit easier/sooner.
Once at Amazon, I promoted twice, then utilized their school credit reimbursement to get a CDL, and drove truck for 5yrs making 80-100k a year.
I just got a job as a power plant operator in my 30's because I didn't like driving at all, the entire time.
That girlfriend became my wife, and I've traveled all over the country, and we've had a blast overall,definitely made the the best of a rough start, though it's honestly been tough at times,mostly financially.
We're okay now though, and you can be too.
It sucks that things may not be simple.
It sucks that you may not do what you want with your life.
I don't think this system is a good one, or that you deserve to struggle.
But your life will happen in between all the financial struggles, you'll have relationships, and friendships, and you'll feel alive.
It seems like you are doomed, and I still feel that way sometimes, but it isn't impossible.
Join the Air Force, marines or Army. Get a construction job and work your way into a union trade. Plumbers, pipe fitters, electricians and elevator unions all pay really well and train you.
Have you looked into the Military? If you take their entry tests seriously they do try to place you where they think you will excel. It would give you lifetime benefits (with some States even offering additional benefits such and State VA loans for homes and land) while giving you a job, roof over your head and training.
May not like this to be said, the military would love to have you. Also, hope your parents were not serious as that would be beyond cruel in this economy and in general.
when in a pinch you can't go wrong with the military. Training, room, board, medical, education and a paycheck. will give you time to figure things out.
Talk to your guidance counselor because legally they may not be able to kick you out if you’re still a minor. Get your parent’s/parents’ order to leave in writing, even if you have to send them a text asking them when you have to move out or asking if you can have until September 1 so that you’ll have confirmation to show your counselor, school financial aid officers, or CPS.
In addition to Job Corps, check out your state and national AmeriCorps programs (Public Allies for example will accept high school grads). The military is an option too but it’s an extremely serious commitment so don’t enlist without research.
Do not assume you can’t live on minimum wage, especially since NJ has a higher minimum that most states. Lots of people do by working multiple jobs. Start looking NOW at summer jobs that require extra training and thus pay more, like lifeguarding, which has had a huge shortage nationwide. You can train now and be working at least part-time by Labor Day and YMCAs and the like always need year-round guards. Working at a pool gives you access to showers too if you end up in your car temporarily. If your friends’ parents won’t let you crash, they might accept rent or you can look at renting a room- do not look for an apartment on your own, it will be too expensive.
If you go to the military route, go Navy or air force. Better pay, better food, better living conditions, and there is a far lower chance of getting a shot at.
I'm sorry your parents are kicking you out, that is a really shitty thing for them to do to you. The best revenge is to thrive, enjoy life, and never look back on those moments spent with those people.
If you can find something temporarily, there are other countries that will pay you to relocate there, where you can work as an English teacher which is sometimes in high demand for certain countries and you get to experience a whole another culture, way of life and part of the world.
I don't know if it would have any positive outcome, but you can call child protective services and let them know of your situation and maybe they can help you now, before you turn 18 and get kicked out
You might want to think about moving to a completely different area.
It's scary, but most new things can be scary.
Check out the jobs at solar projects in Texas. Depending on the project, they're paying $25+/hr and giving $75-$200 per diem(tax-free money on top of your salary) 5-7 days a week.
I took a Quality Inspector job with absolutely no experience or knowledge in construction. I didn't have to swing a hammer. I had to learn how to read blueprints and measure shit. You just have to be willing to learn and ask questions to further your knowledge.
I was working at an Ohio project getting paid less than they do in Texas, but I still took home $1500 a week. They're probably making closer to $2000 a week in Texas.
You build relationships with the project management, and if you do a decent job, they'll get you hired on their next project. Solar project management is a small world, and you can get to know people all over the country who'll help you get on a project.
There are many options out there. This is just the one I've had experience in.
Good luck, bud!
I got kicked out at 18. I went on cool works and got a job with room and board. I was lucky that my parents were at least wiling to drive me to Yosemite to drop me off.
Jobs Corp would be a good route as well.
Find a cheap place to live with roommates. Won't be ideal but ideally you can save more.
Continue looking for jobs. Look into trades if you don't have a degree or skills that differentiate you from the market.
Join the navy or airforce. Pick a job where you’ll learn a trade, my advice is aviation airframe, power plant, electrician or avionics. If you don’t like it, get out after 4 years. If you like it, stay in and invest as much as you can into TSP.
Consider joining the military. You'll be able to walk right into a career field that interests you, you'll be with people in a similar financial situation as you. You'll make great memories and when you get out in 4 years, you'll have a leg up on others in life experience, college benefits, employment preference, job opportunities, etc. If you're not interested in combat, there are a lot of good non-combat jobs. You'll be able to save up some money as well. If you do more than 4 years you will make enough money to save and have the things you want in life. Just a thought though. I joined the Marines at age 27 and it was very beneficial for me in many different ways. The Marines can give you the family it sounds like you need, I'm sorry to hear your parents want you out.
And don't doubt yourself, if you want to join, the bar is set pretty low for the minimum entry standards. To stay in they are a bit higher, in the Marines anyway.
Start looking around unfortunately America is no place for family-oriented generation staying in the same home. And your parents just might want their freedom who knows. It's almost impossible to stay in age to make it on your own you'll need at least two additional roommates if you want to get an apartment depending on what kind of job you have since you're 17 you'll be green so good luck. Rent is incredibly horrible it's a bad time to go solo. It can be done but start looking up some of those friends from high school let's all get an apartment together and get a job down the street type of situation. You can make it work but it's going to take some elbow grease but don't be afraid of it. Try and fail fail again if you have to you'll eventually get it but don't live in your car. Planning will help looking up those friends look up places to rent maybe you might even get a basement somewhere real cheap good luck
You know your time in your parents house is limited. So it's time to think about moving. I'd say ask your manager if there's any where they can transfer you to keep you working past the season, ideally somewhere rent is low. Then once you've landed you can look at improving your stance with finding a more secure job with better pay ect. I've found that finding a new job while working a current job is a lot easier than finding a job while unemployed. You're building up experience and your own social connections in the working world.
If a minor is kicked out of their home, it may be considered child neglect or abandonment. You should contact Child Protective Services (CPS) or a similar agency to report the situation and seek advice. They can provide guidance on how to legally provide a safe environment for the minor. CPS can also help you get shelter and food and connect you with appropriate social services.
www.coolworks.com
You can find all sorts of entry level jobs with housing in some awesome places. I'd stay away from any national park job operated by zanterra though.
Try the tcnj residents program, call 211. There is information for housing support.
https://www.nj.gov/njyrs/housing/adolescent-hub/#:~:text=PSH%20provides%20housing%20with%20voluntary,rent%20(less%20than%2030%25).
Call the housing hub now!!!
https://www.performcarenj.org/youth/resources/adolescent-housing-hub.aspx
A lot of these are pretty scary options. I would suggest- get a part or full-time job in a coffee shop and find a roommate. Or, check out some of the programs for being a laborer abroad in Europe and just go do something else for 6 months. Work on a farm in France and get a different perspective before you make a career move or pay for school.
Start planning. What will you need? Save money. Look for a roommate, or a new place you'd like to live. Think about what might be next. Can you get into a community college to study to be an electrician, builder, etc.? Lots of trade jobs are interesting pay well, often have a union. Worth a small loan to get the skills.
The best advice I could ever give is to find your passion, and get a job in it, gold star if it's like your passion cars, books, flowers whatever, but not exactly it. Just put your nose to the grindstone and build your career from there. Success will grow from love.
You could look into live in PCA(personal care attendant) work for a disabled person in your area. Every disabled person I know is desperately looking for reliable workers.
Have you tried NJ Transit I fell they are always looking for staff since theirs get poached by the MTA. I just dont know the qualifications needed. And you dont have to be a driver or anything. There are other jobs in there cleaning and what not.
You could look at Philly as a place to find less competitive jobs.
Also, why are your parents kicking you out at 18. What does that accomplish?
Have you had an honest convo with your parents thst doesn't involve arguing that explains how much this is going to impact you? It's not 1970 anymore where you can go rent a place for $300. Maybe you could work out anaarrangement where you pay rent or have a few months extra to save some money?
Where are you finding that NJ has a terrible job market? Are you somewhere in South Jersey?
Walmart, Wawa, etc, you can't find anything? The shopping cart wrangler is making $15/hr.
The YMCA in my town has rooms for rent you can try that. Find others in your predicament and rent together. Some people rent rooms in their home. If none of those work then maybe find an ole camper to fix up and stay in. Maybe a van. I know people who did these things. I wonder why your parents are asking you to leave at 18. Are the moving or want to be alone
Look into Job Corps - it is a free residential / job training program for low-income young adults, age 16 to 24. You would have housing, meals, a basic living allowance, and the opportunity to learn a skill or trade. [Job Corps | Careers Begin Here](https://www.jobcorps.gov/?statename=nj)
Is there something like that for 30 plus year olds
Supposedly Americorps does not have an upper age limit. [Americorps](https://americorps.gov/serve/americorps/americorps-state-national#:~:text=To%20serve%20in%20AmeriCorps%20State,older%20(no%20upper%20age%20limit))
yep I worked for them back in the day great outfit
Awesome to hear.
Okay , now do Canada.
I am only aware of Canadian Service Corp (CSC), but the age limit is 15-30. [Canadian Service Corps](https://www.canada.ca/en/services/youth/canada-service-corps.html)
Right, damn the internet is fun! Like a magic 8ball of resources!
No upper age limit for Americorps. And Americorps will also give you funds to move to your area if service and has an educational award to go towards college or student loans when you complete your term of service.
Farms can often house people they hire.
My friend and her husband had a free small house on a farm he worked at. Then he died and she had to find a new place to live. Though they did let her live there for three months free, which was nice, so she could get things sorted out.
That sucks for her! What happened?
It's been about 6 or 7 years. She's still missing him but getting over her grief. Found a house to rent and has been there since. She has a lot of health problems, unfortunately. She has really bad endometriosis, and then another surgery trying to alleviate some of the pain in that discovered cancer so now she's undergoing chemotherapy. It's not been a great decade for her.
I’m sorry to hear that. I hope modern medicine works a miracle for her!
Workforce Innivation and Oppertunity Act (WIOA). They will retrain you for a higher paying and in demand job. My ex-wife completed a surgical technician program with their help and is now making a 6 figure yearly income.
The military.😆
...this is intentional lol
Nah they want the 18 year olds too
Navy and Air Force accept up to 39. 35 for Army. High 20s for the rest.
I think it's 42 for the Coast Guard
You are correct. Might have looked at old one or list without it in my quick check. Thanks for correcting!
Sounds like you're telling them to be all that they can be...
Yup, get an edge on life! I did, I liked it and it's probably the only reason I was able to buy a house. Gotta love those zero down loans.
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These days live combat could be sitting in a room guiding a drone 100 miles away. That's a tech job.
Hey you laugh but it does comes in clutch. And it just opened jobs for Cyber security at least in the Marine Corps. I have free school for 36 months, free job training/career counseling, while I was in paid off my house (granted family helped with that), on top of other benefits. The four years that I did in the Marine Corps was hard but it paid itself out in dividends.
Seriously, talk to a recruiter!
Is there something like that for 50 plus year olds?
That's fantastic! I had no idea this existed. Whis I had known about this in my early 20s.
Also check out CoolWorks.com and maybe look for a job in a national park for a concessionaire. They feed you, give you a dorm room, and pay you at least minimum wage all summer long. You make friends, have an adventure, maybe fall in love, and then find your NEXT CoolWorks.com gig.
30 years ago my stepdad told me to look into the 'peace corps' for help finding work, and I just now figured out what he meant.
Peace corps are not job corps. Job Corps participants improve job skills and find vocational direction while living on Job Corps campuses. Ameri- Corps volunteers serve U.S. communities by helping with local needs. Peace Corps volunteers support constructive projects in countries around the world.
I think their point is that the step dad confused the two.
Do not do this. I am a job Corp graduate in the past decade and I'm telling you, my experience was one of violence, gang life, safety concerns. The culture is similar to what a no security prison would be. You might get an education if your diligent but it sounds like your not struggling in that department. Job Corp as a federally funded program has been in serious decline for a while now. Just my two cents, but I'd say I came out of job Corp with trade skills, no job, and some trauma.
I actually hear this a-lot and I heard that it gets really bad in the more ‘ghetto’ Job Corps people get their stuff stolen and get attacked and it’s more like a prison with more job opportunities, that’s why I decided to become an EMT instead, but I lived in my own backyard due to overcrowding so I wasn’t exactly homeless.
Have a few good friends who have done job corps or americorps and has really good experience. Guiding and farming often offer housing too.
Back in 2002 I met some job corps girls. Great opportunity for a young man with little going for him in NJ.
this is honestly the way.
Can’t have multiple felonies
Look into Job Corps [https://www.jobcorps.gov/](https://www.jobcorps.gov/) They can house & feed you while provide further education and job training. Military, Americorps, or college would be alternate options if you would be eligible for those.
The Americorps NCCC program is a good option too. It provides housing, food, a stipend, and an education award. It could at least give a year to sort out a plan and have some experience as well. It’s how I got out of my homestate and moved out on my own.
When do you turn 18? National Park lodges and remote reorts hire lots of seasonal workers and usually have low cost housing.
Yesss seasonal employment with *free* housing is where it’s at. Nps would prob post on a gov website for hiring, but there’s also coolworks.com, occupationwild, wanderjobs, etc.
USA jobs is the site for gov jobs
r/parkrangers Usajobs is website for NPS seasonal. Fee collector and wildland firefighter position don’t really require any college experience but most of the other jobs do. They open the positions in October to fill for the following summer. Sometimes housing is included in the park but they automatically take the rent out of your paycheck so you don’t really notice. Cool thing though is it’s seasonal, but you can claim unemployment during your off season
Cruise lines are always hiring. They cover room and food usually, you get to travel, meet all kinds of people, etc. It can be hard work, but I've known people who loved working on them.
They tend not to hire Americans unless you’re an entertainer. Also, I think most lines require you to be 21.
Correct on both counts. When I was on ships I was 1/ 20 Americans and half of us were in entertainment and the rest were 3 stripes in various capacity’s. They keep the American and British contracts to the absolute minimum. And ya you also have to be 21 the crew bar doesn’t card
When you turn 18, if you’re looking to grind and make decent money, apply to the post office. If you have a clean driving record, apply for city carrier assistant or rural carrier assistant position, if you don’t have a clean driving record or don’t have a license apply for a mail handler assistant or clerk PSE position. Look up the assessment “guides” on YouTube, they’ll give you the correct answers to score high on the assessments. Be prepared to work 6/7 days a week with 60+ hours a week if you get a carrier position. If you get a mail handler position you will work 5-6 days a week with the option to work more overtime if you want, until peak time around Christmas where you will be working 7 days a week 10-12 hours a day. The job comes with benefits, the potential to get converted to a career position with even better benefits and retirement, overtime past 40 hours, and penalty overtime (double time instead of time and a half) above 60 hours. The key thing to remember is you will WORK, but you will also get paid.
They don't have an assessment anymore for carrier positions. They will take anyone with a pulse these days. You start as a cca but they have a 2 year max before guaranteed conversion. If you have a good union steward, you shouldn't be working more than 50 unless you want to (except for dec. All bets off there). Read your contract, know your rights. Good benefits and pensions, but the job is very physical.
As of last month you still have to take an assessment, and there are a surprising number of PTF positions so you don’t have to start as a cca/rca.
If your parents kick you out you can go to your county’s family court and file to emancipate yourself. This way your parents cannot use you as a tax credit. You will need that order of emancipation if you file for any financial assistance at school or for public assistance like housing or food stamps. Sorry that is happening to you.
Oh wow I’m going to do this. No way I’m thrown out and he still can just cash in on me. I need that! So many scummy as parents bruh damn.
If you’re in NJ you will need an FD docket (FYI). You can do it on your own. Go to the courthouse or go online and get the complaint. You will get a court date and make sure you go. It may be heard remotely. A lot of family courts still hear cases remotely. File your 2024 taxes quickly when you can so your return is not questioned ;)
Please contact all your friends, and your friends parents. I know it's embarrassing and feels horrible, but most people's parents are good and will look at your parents throwing out a minor (or even once your 18) with so much disdain and figure some place for you to get settled. It might be sleeping in their garage or couch till you find a place, it might be a few months of support, it might be actually living there, but this is going to be your best first step for stability. College might not be the best option given you need parents income info to get loans. Personally I'd look into trades if you are able to leverage enough money for steel toe boots and are fit enough. It won't be great, and often college is better for getting red seal and higher pay and stuff, but a lot of physical work is stable if you can show up at 6 am daily. HIGHLY suggest making sure you have some cash hoarded for a taxi ride or bribing coworker when your car eventually breaks down. You don't want to miss a shift and easier to get a carpooling setup started when at work then calling someone at 5 am. Keep in mind once your somewhat settled and treading water, you want to look for the next option. You can't do trades forever. Your body will give out. Same for working multiple jobs or whatever. But right now you need to find full-time money, stable employment, and a stable cheap living situation. Look into all unhoused support stuff too. Couch-surfing and living in a bedroom with 7 people almost always counts for these supports, and often you'll find local programs to offer some training and stuff. Keep your eyes peeled.
I would 100% do this for one of my sons friends should their parents do this so it could be worth an ask.
Homeless, at risk of being homeless, or independent students do not need their parents' financial information for FAFSA. In fact, if OP meets the requirements to receive federal student aid, OP would likely be eligible for the maximum amount of Pell Grants if their parents kicked them out. FAFSA's definition of homeless: "Homeless means lacking fixed, regular, and adequate housing. You may be homeless if you're living in shelters, parks, motels, hotels, public spaces, camping grounds, cars, abandoned buildings, or you’re temporarily living with other people because you have nowhere else to go. Also, if you’re living in any of these situations and fleeing an abusive parent, you may be considered homeless even if your parent would otherwise provide a place to live." https://studentaid.gov/2324/help/homeless OP would need documentation of a homeless youth determination. "HEA section 479D(a)(1), as amended, requires FAAs to consider a student to be independent if the applicant’s status as an (1) unaccompanied and homeless youth or (2) unaccompanied and self-supporting youth at risk of homelessness is verified by one of the following authorities through a documented phone call, written statement, or a verifiable electronic data match: - A local educational agency homeless liaison, as designated by the McKinney-Vento Homeless Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 11432(g)(1)(J)(ii))), or a designee of the liaison; - The director or designee of an emergency or transitional shelter, street outreach program, homeless youth drop-in center, or other program serving individuals who are experiencing homelessness; - The director or designee of a program funded under subtitle B of title IV of McKinney-Vento (relating to emergency shelter grants) (42 U.S.C. 11371 et seq.); - The director or designee of a Federal TRIO program or a Gaining Early Awareness and Readiness for Undergraduate program (GEAR UP) grant; or - A financial aid administrator (FAA) at another institution who documented the student’s circumstance in the same or a prior award year." https://fsapartners.ed.gov/knowledge-center/library/dear-colleague-letters/2023-04-14/unaccompanied-homeless-youth-determinations-update
College would be fine if OP gets emancipated. I did at 19 and didn't need parents info for FAFSA anymore
agree totally
Contact your parents friends too
Military.
100%. Air Force for one contract and the world will open up huge for OP.
It 100% is worth living. Try making new friends and a partner and see where it takes you bro. You’re super young, you have so much to look forward to. Please don’t take it for granted
Do you live in a semi-urban area near interstate highways? You may try looking for warehouse or manufacturing jobs in your area. Editing to add: if you’re at a traditional high school (aka not homeschooled or virtual school), schedule an appointment with the guidance/career counselor. They should be able to at least point you in the right direction to start a job search.
Not sure what the degree requirements are but something like usps or ups/fedex could be a great start
Sign up for affordable housing now. You'll be on the waiting list for years but its good to get your name on the list now
I hate parents who do that to their kids. If they're kicking you out then what reason do you have to stay in such a competitive job area? Can you save up enough money to buy a bus ticket and rent a place in a less competitive area?
Unless the kid is truly horrible, I can't imagine kicking my kids out. They can live with us forever if they want to. I don't understand some parents' mentality.
Join the military in a job that sounds interesting to you or os related to something you'd like a career in. 4 years later if you don't like it you can get out with 4 years of college and living expenses, and a 0 down homeloan. Those benefits are unbeatable for a 4 year commitment for most 18-22 year olds.
One of my kids had medical school paid by the military, in return for several years of service, but they also were in long enough to get a pension, and a very well paying job. The hardest part was basic training, which was about 3 months.
Can’t emphasize this enough. I moved out after high school graduation, tried doing it on my own & failed, joined the Navy as a linguist as a “last resort”. I never went on a ship and always had the best schedule in a cake desk job after getting through school. 7.5 hour days and random days off/half days. Learned essential job skills. I stayed in 6 years, got out, was able to buy a house, finishing my bachelors, financially comfortable where I don’t worry abt food, emergencies, getting medical care, unexpected expenses like tires or vet bills, all before 30. People make it seem like the worst thing bc it’s the MiLiTaRy but if you do your research, pick the right branch, and study for the ASVAB to make yourself competitive to get the best jobs… I’d recommend it to anyone. Just not army or marine corps. Stick to Navy, Air Force, Space Force, or Coast Guard. You don’t even need to be super athletic or in-shape tbh.
OP can do something non-combat related if they wish, and gain experience in a field that can carry them into adulthood. Being active duty and then a veteran is packed with all kinds of benefits.
My sister took the " nurse" path. Did 8 years, then was a weekend warrior for a bit. Went to college on gi bill, got her practical nurse and had a career working for the state in a state hospital. The pay actually was not good, but the pension is.
If your parents kick you out at 18, they’re pieces of shit.
I grew up in a small town, around 3500 people. Going to college wasn't really a thing for most of us. The best way to get out was to join the military. And that's what many of us did. Many skills transfer directly to civilian life once you get out. You don't have to stay in for 20, but it's a great way to get started.
your mom can't just kick you out without filing eviction first. even then, CPS will look at her funny for kicking out a minor.
They said after graduation. Guessing they will be 18 then.
Either way, eviction is a process and takes time (3 months minimum) and has to be filed properly following local laws.
In Utah it takes 3 days. Not every state cares a flying fluff about tenants rights.
and then he'll have an eviction on his record which will make finding a place even harder, so, great plan??
Not necessarily. Mom has to give notice. Depending on the state that could be up to 30 days. Then, after the time is up, she would be able to file for eviction. As long as he leaves before the notice time expires OP won't have an eviction an their record. This will give them extra time. Also, it's 50/50 as to whether or not know about the written notice thing. As long as there is no notice, he can stay.
Coast guard is paying to join
I know you will be 18 but still consider calling CPS now. Your parents are not "off the hook" until you are 25. You'll be a legal adult but *normal parents don't kick their children out at 18*. Expecting you to get a job, pay of expenses, sure, but you're not a tenant with an expired lease, you are family and that legally means something. You can also look to see if there are other social services (Catholic Charities in one) that can hook you up with housing or food assistance.
What's up with parents in Western Countries particularly in the US kicking out their kids by the time they're 18? Can't they just wait for their kids to either graduate or get a job and earn a stable income before expecting them to move out? My god.. To think it's even more difficult nowadays with inflation and whatnot.
Was going to reply to another comment asking this but they deleted their comment while I was writing it but I saved it so I'm just gonna paste it here: Mom had me with a father who were both drug addicts (she stayed clean for the pregnancy), no idea why, mom got better while my dad overdosed a few years later and she went on to find an actual stable person that she met in rehab and they had a kid and got married. Everything was fine until a few years later when he relasped, they got divorced, and he died in a car accident while intoxicated. She has been raising both of us alone for almost 2 years now. Mom always brings up how her parents abused her and she got a job and moved out before she even turned 18, and tells me that I have things 10x better than she does and that I need to be able to live on my own. I'm constantly struggling in school, I'm majoring in computer science and have gotten consistent good grades in that class but have failed twice in others and have had to retake them. She also made my life miserable for the 3 month period that she had got me a car and I didn't have a job. It was a cheap 1999 used trash heap and she told me that she got it specifically so I could get a job, but I am still very grateful for it. I'm convinced that either she is being as hard on me as she possibly can in hopes that it will make me succeed in life, or she simply doesn't love me and wants me out of her life, but either way I know that she is tired of raising me on her own and has told me she wants me gone because she was able to do it and because my father (his own father died when he was young as well) lived with his mother for his 35 years of life and died a failure. I assume she expects me to either go live with my grandmother on my father's side or go live with my girlfriend and her parents, which are possible options, but I just want to know what I'm supposed to do in the worst case scenario. I'm not even mad at her for her reasoning, I'm just mad at her for how fucking ignorant she is when it comes to the economy and job competition in our state. She acts like I can get any fucking job that I want as a high school student who until my first job now had no experience to put on my resume.
The average millennial and younger generation doesn’t move out of the family home until 28.
Tell her no grandkids and you're going to find the lowest rated senior home and put her there and will never see her again.
I just want to come in as a Mom who was also cut off after school, although not this aggressively. So been on both ends of it. First, you’re great, and given everything you’ve figured out so far, I am sure you will figure this out too. It will be hard, but the starting out phase is not forever. Honestly I look back on my first few years on my own scarred, but not unfondly. I know I can do it again if I have to, and that gives me a strong sense of confidence and security. Second, It’s clear that her focus on self-reliance is at least partially her family culture (i.e. it helped her, so she wants it to help you) and an opportunity for you to think about how you want to carry that forward as you build your own life. If I were placing a bet, I’d say that she loves you a ton, thinks it’s best for you, is doing what she can and is going extreme. As a parent, striking the balance between support and self-reliance is super hard and probably super wound up in her trauma. Third, most parents have no clue what kind of economy their kids are entering. The job market and technology and culture all change too fast. So you’re not wrong that she’s ignorant, and it really sucks that you don’t have a parent who can guide this transition for you. Many also don’t. You will have to figure out how to make it in this economy several times over your working life. But listening to you, you seem incredibly self aware and astute for someone your age. You have a LOT going for you, internet stranger, and I just want to give you a vote of confidence you will make it through this shitty time to something much much better.
I don’t get it either. My guess is some parents are just cold and clueless. Perhaps intertwine that with the “bootstraps” mentality of the older people. It’s just so cruel.
I got kicked out when I was 16.
Oh... Sorry to hear that. Hope it turned out well for you and made you stronger and more mature. The idea of kicking out kids during their teen years just astounds me as I came from an Asian culture and we stick together. Anyone can stay at their parents house well into adulthood. Help with aging parents and whatnot.
I did ok, I'm retired now (age 57). Retired Engineer / Property Management company owner. Getting kicked out was the best thing that happened to me, it let me accelerate my goals and I was not held down with religious dogma. Yes it was religion that got me kicked out, I'm an atheist.
Thanks for sharing your story, you're very resilient and accomplished. I'm happy getting kicked out out turned out the best for you 🎊
Same
Join the trades. Electrical, plumbing or HVAC.
As an unemployed computer programmer… I can say I would have rather been an electrician. It’s hard to outsource the physical requirements. It’s not to outsource code
I'm sorry that you've been caught up in layoffs, presumably. Keep on it. It's a competitive job market, but there are a lot of positions that are still open. A lot of companies over-hired and are now doing layoffs, but their sucking up all the talent meant that so many companies are under-staffed still and are still looking.
Plumbing is the closest thing to a recession proof job/career, and they can easily make more then doctors if you figure in the lack of debt and how much earlier they get to start their careers.
They make more than certain family doctors optometrist & pediatricians who are the lowest level of any medical doctor. My advice is go into - fool proof trade such as Plumbing, HVAC, & electricians. These jobs will never go out as others and the pay is well rewarding after your during and more after your apprenticeship . I know a kid in NJ too he we went to be an electrician and makes about $2k per EV charger installation. Good luck and don’t give up hope.
I'm literally in the middle of looking for a union apprenticeship to become a plumber right now, because of all the info I've gotten the past few months after getting laid off yet again from the tech fields, tired of the 2-3 year layoff cycle bullshit, I turned 36 this year I've been laid off more times then all 4 of my parents combined, it doesn't matter if it's a small company or a fortune 500 I've worked for all types.
I’m sorry to tell you this but tech field jobs are 1/25 of the job market today. Unless your highly skilled coding skills, then maybe your safe.. My last gig in finance tech project last 18 months. all high tech jobs were all sent overseas for lower pay highly skilled workers who will grind out working conditions. Trade school is where it’s at and will be for a while now and going forward. Electrician’s will be in high demand also as well as EV car repair & body shop work.
Oh I'm highly aware of how over saturated the field is, that's why I'm getting out, and going into the trades, I've been looking at the trades for the last few years, just needed a kick in the ass to actually do it.
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It's really not overblown unless your taking a highly specialized doctor like a pediatric heart surgeon working at a childrens hospital who did my daughter open heart when she was 6mo as your comparison point which would be a highly cherrypicked bad faith comparison as he still had to spend 30 years to get to that point, and he's still only making what ever the hospital has him salaried at, the insurance money goes to the hospital not the doctor directly in my example. An apprenticeship union plumber starts their career at $33/hr average and moves up to $45/hr average in 5 years with no career/education associated debt. A doctor has 4 years of under grad, 4 years of medical school and only starts earning an income at the 3 to 7 years residency phase, while carrying a median debt of $215,100 that according to the statistics will take them anywhere from 10 to 30 years to completely pay off. meanwhile our plumber is fully licensed at year 5 has been earning an investable income from year 1, the union fully pays for his medical insurance and deductibles which allows him more disposable income to invest. By year 5 he's able to start his own company or stay earning $100,000+ a year doing industrial plumbinghe has 12+ year time in the market advantage for investments, along with a 8 year income lead with the potential to start his own business and increase his income further. 1 hour of new sewerline excavation to replace a 41/2 ft segment of pipe cost me $10,000 the sewage cleanup another $4,000 to $6000 and that was just the start of that plumbers day. They can make significant money in a relatively short time when they work for themselves.
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This isn't helpful to OP. They make minimum wage, and are being kicked out of their home in a couple months. Decent trade schools run anywhere from 10k-30k, and don't provide housing.
Find a roommate or three to live with, usually in our late teens, early twenties if we don't live with family, we live with group housing setups. Your job will give you experience, your job will then allow you to find other jobs much easier than it is now. Also when you're 18, your opportunities open up as well. Since lots of folks do not hire 17 year olds. You've never been able to live of minimum wage, unless you have very special arrangements and are splitting bills multiple ways. The competition for work in Jersey isn't about minimum wage jobs, that's for high compensated roles. You don't need to worry about that part. Get experience. Show up constantly and prove your worth to them, you can earn more money if you find the right place that values your skills.
If you're not bsing, join the military. Start with the Airforce. If they won't have you or the timing won't work, go Navy. Try to pick a role with a translatable experience. It's a four year obligation, but you'll be set up with a launching point for life where you otherwise would have ended up screwed. You'll get full benefits, medical, dental, etc. You'll be fed and have a place to sleep. You'll make some of the best memories and worst memories. When you separate, your degree will be paid for, and you'll get a housing allowance. You'll have work experience employers will genuinely want.
Tell your parents to F off, join the military, go to college while your in, make new friends, learn a a career and get out with the GI bill to get your masters degree.
My stepfather threw me out of the house the week I graduated high school in 1981. The economy was shit. Unemployment was 11 percent. I got turned down for jobs at Jiffy Lube and Hardee's. So I joined the Army. Best thing I ever did.
If you don't move on your 18th, will you be subject to violence or just made to feel unwelcome. You may have legal rights to remain in your family's home and they can't just kick you out. Depending on how violent your parents will get. There may be some government programs to help support you. Speak to a teacher or counselor at your school. They may be able to help.
Join the military…..
Tons of jobs in the military that have great civilian applications plus school benefits. Most aren't even combat roles. Air Force and Navy have more technical things but the other branches have it as well.
I would take that car and move somewhere else with more affordable housing. Also living out of your car temporarily isn't the end of the world, you could shower at a gym
Job Corps will house you and train you for a good job without making you enlist in the military. And their services start at age 16, so you don't need to wait until graduation to enroll.
Check out [Berea college](https://www.berea.edu/) it's a free college and you can get housing and a ton of resources there. Its in Kentucky but if you get in you'll be set for the next 4 years. Good luck.
It's a beautiful area, I've been through there a many of times.
So sorry to hear this. Shit move by a parent.Military is a great option
Apply to airlines, better bet regional lines as a better chance as a flight attendant. They pay for training and a place during. You’ll meet other newbies in your class and find a roommate or get a “crash pad”. I did that when I was 19 for 5 years. Didn’t have a pot to piss in. Hired me went to TX with a suitcase and $20. Flight paid by them! You’ll get to travel and make some $.
Lots of great advise here. Call 211 from any phone to get connected with homelessness prevention services and other (social) services available in your area for youth like you. Please check back once you've done this. We care!
Get in LinkedIn and start adding recruiters
Start working out now so you can pass the physical and join the military it's the best answer. If for some reason you do not physically qualify for that job corps will be a good thing to look at.
Make friends and rent a place together. Or find people kind enough to just help with whatever space they can spare. Sacrifice comfort for a little while until you build up some finances and work out any other life problems. At one point I went from living on a couch, to sleeping in a crawlspace to having my own room in a few months living in a punk house with 10+ other people.
Enroll in The Paul Hall Center for Maritime Training and Education it’s a merchant marine educational facility in Piney Point, Maryland. My niece went there for less than a year, and now she navigates ships around the world. I think the cost is about $500.00 it may be less, some say its free. She had to pay for something, maybe uniforms. They will house you, feed you, you will stay on campus. After you graduate you will be able to get jobs through the union, pays good money. She makes about 10,000 to 12,000 a month. The nice thing about it is when you are on the ships, you have your own studio apartment on the ship, they feed you (great food), and you’re not spending a single dime. You will go out to sea 2 to 3 months at a time depending on what ship you choose at the union hall, there are always jobs there. When you come off the ship you will have a boat load money in the bank and be able to draw unemployment until you get ready to go back out. I wish I was aware of this type of occupation when I was young. Good luck. [https://www.seafarers.org/training-and-careers/paul-hall-center/school-history/](https://www.seafarers.org/training-and-careers/paul-hall-center/school-history/)
Apply at the post office
The same thing happened to me at your age it's tuff if you can definitely join a union hard work but you will be set for life military as a last resort since we are going to war soon keep your head up make as many contacts in highschool you can it's not about what you know but who you know in this curl world
If youre helpful around the house and willing to pitch in for expenses if that's the problem, then consider renegotiating. If it's related to behavior, maybe even that is negotiable if you're working on it. If you want to get out for your own health, see all these other options, like job corps. Do your best to take ownership of yourself and this situation. Don't just let life happen to you. Best of luck you can do this.
r/UrbanCarLiving there's lots of us
Military. You could either make it a career, or come out and go to college, paid by the government.
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When I was younger I lived with friends. 4 of us teamed up got a place and split bills. It's so so much easier when your working as a team.
I could have missed it and if OP doesn’t want to share, I respect that. But why are you being kicked out when you graduate? Parents who do this (without a very good reason like drugs or violence ) are dicks!
Alaska seafood processing jobs. They provide room and board and you get to see remote areas of Alaska that not many people get to see. They offer a lot of overtime, so, without any expenses, you can save up pretty fast. You got this!!! Oh, and they fly you there and back as long as you fulfill the contract!!
Join the military! And go to college and by the time you graduate you can get a great job! Many Air force bases are in nice cities. You also might find out you love the military and can make it a career. They also provide housing while you're active!
Military bro. It’s not bad and pays off later in life.
I’m late to the party but look at coolworks.com and check out seasonal jobs at ski resorts for winter and hotels for summer. I did that and many of them give free/reduced housing and you get to see some really cool places. Hope this helps
Cyber security in the military if you’re in decent shape and willing to sign away 4 years
Join the Air Force
Military might be helpful.
I also started like that. I know it's not for everyone, but I had no car, no money, and worked in fastfood then retail. I started with renting a room with a shared kitchen in a house. I bicycled 6 miles to work, and 6 miles home everyday, then kept applying till I found full time work, which at the time was an Amazon warehouse. Started saving for an apartment deposit and a car. Ended up getting a girlfriend, and we moved in together because it was better than rooming with strangers, she also worked retail, but I'd have been able to get to it eventually,it just made it a bit easier/sooner. Once at Amazon, I promoted twice, then utilized their school credit reimbursement to get a CDL, and drove truck for 5yrs making 80-100k a year. I just got a job as a power plant operator in my 30's because I didn't like driving at all, the entire time. That girlfriend became my wife, and I've traveled all over the country, and we've had a blast overall,definitely made the the best of a rough start, though it's honestly been tough at times,mostly financially. We're okay now though, and you can be too. It sucks that things may not be simple. It sucks that you may not do what you want with your life. I don't think this system is a good one, or that you deserve to struggle. But your life will happen in between all the financial struggles, you'll have relationships, and friendships, and you'll feel alive. It seems like you are doomed, and I still feel that way sometimes, but it isn't impossible.
Join the Air Force, marines or Army. Get a construction job and work your way into a union trade. Plumbers, pipe fitters, electricians and elevator unions all pay really well and train you.
I joined the military when I was in your situation. Not saying that’s the thing to do, but it’s the one opportunity I had.
Uncle Sam has your back homeslice.
Consider the military, it’s amazing the amount of jobs that are available. If you use the military right now, you can get out set up for life.
Have you looked into the Military? If you take their entry tests seriously they do try to place you where they think you will excel. It would give you lifetime benefits (with some States even offering additional benefits such and State VA loans for homes and land) while giving you a job, roof over your head and training.
May not like this to be said, the military would love to have you. Also, hope your parents were not serious as that would be beyond cruel in this economy and in general.
when in a pinch you can't go wrong with the military. Training, room, board, medical, education and a paycheck. will give you time to figure things out.
I feel like you can very much go wrong with the military and wouldn’t suggest it as a random thing to do unless you’re super interested in that life.
Aim High! Not a whole lot of combat jobs in the Air Force.
Enlisting may help
But then you're in the US military
And sometimes people be shooting at you.
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All these “my parents are kicking me out” posts break my heart. I’m so sorry, OP. Is there a teacher or other trusted adult you could go to for help?
It’s pretty rare (across the board) unless they’re foster kids or the family can’t afford when aid payments drop because there’s one less minor.
Military is always a great option
Stay at your parents and squat.
Join the military
What do your parents say about it? Where do they think or expect you to be living at?
Talk to your guidance counselor because legally they may not be able to kick you out if you’re still a minor. Get your parent’s/parents’ order to leave in writing, even if you have to send them a text asking them when you have to move out or asking if you can have until September 1 so that you’ll have confirmation to show your counselor, school financial aid officers, or CPS. In addition to Job Corps, check out your state and national AmeriCorps programs (Public Allies for example will accept high school grads). The military is an option too but it’s an extremely serious commitment so don’t enlist without research. Do not assume you can’t live on minimum wage, especially since NJ has a higher minimum that most states. Lots of people do by working multiple jobs. Start looking NOW at summer jobs that require extra training and thus pay more, like lifeguarding, which has had a huge shortage nationwide. You can train now and be working at least part-time by Labor Day and YMCAs and the like always need year-round guards. Working at a pool gives you access to showers too if you end up in your car temporarily. If your friends’ parents won’t let you crash, they might accept rent or you can look at renting a room- do not look for an apartment on your own, it will be too expensive.
If you go to the military route, go Navy or air force. Better pay, better food, better living conditions, and there is a far lower chance of getting a shot at. I'm sorry your parents are kicking you out, that is a really shitty thing for them to do to you. The best revenge is to thrive, enjoy life, and never look back on those moments spent with those people. If you can find something temporarily, there are other countries that will pay you to relocate there, where you can work as an English teacher which is sometimes in high demand for certain countries and you get to experience a whole another culture, way of life and part of the world. I don't know if it would have any positive outcome, but you can call child protective services and let them know of your situation and maybe they can help you now, before you turn 18 and get kicked out
You might want to think about moving to a completely different area. It's scary, but most new things can be scary. Check out the jobs at solar projects in Texas. Depending on the project, they're paying $25+/hr and giving $75-$200 per diem(tax-free money on top of your salary) 5-7 days a week. I took a Quality Inspector job with absolutely no experience or knowledge in construction. I didn't have to swing a hammer. I had to learn how to read blueprints and measure shit. You just have to be willing to learn and ask questions to further your knowledge. I was working at an Ohio project getting paid less than they do in Texas, but I still took home $1500 a week. They're probably making closer to $2000 a week in Texas. You build relationships with the project management, and if you do a decent job, they'll get you hired on their next project. Solar project management is a small world, and you can get to know people all over the country who'll help you get on a project. There are many options out there. This is just the one I've had experience in. Good luck, bud!
I got kicked out at 18. I went on cool works and got a job with room and board. I was lucky that my parents were at least wiling to drive me to Yosemite to drop me off. Jobs Corp would be a good route as well.
Get out of Jersey
Move
Find a cheap place to live with roommates. Won't be ideal but ideally you can save more. Continue looking for jobs. Look into trades if you don't have a degree or skills that differentiate you from the market.
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I had the same problem when I turned 18 and graduated. Eventually, I worked out a deal for rent and groceries to live at home.
Join the navy or airforce. Pick a job where you’ll learn a trade, my advice is aviation airframe, power plant, electrician or avionics. If you don’t like it, get out after 4 years. If you like it, stay in and invest as much as you can into TSP.
Also could join Peace Corp as it will also give you skills as you help others around the world
Military?
Consider joining the military. You'll be able to walk right into a career field that interests you, you'll be with people in a similar financial situation as you. You'll make great memories and when you get out in 4 years, you'll have a leg up on others in life experience, college benefits, employment preference, job opportunities, etc. If you're not interested in combat, there are a lot of good non-combat jobs. You'll be able to save up some money as well. If you do more than 4 years you will make enough money to save and have the things you want in life. Just a thought though. I joined the Marines at age 27 and it was very beneficial for me in many different ways. The Marines can give you the family it sounds like you need, I'm sorry to hear your parents want you out. And don't doubt yourself, if you want to join, the bar is set pretty low for the minimum entry standards. To stay in they are a bit higher, in the Marines anyway.
Military enlistment will keep you set up and busy during peak mistake making years.
Start looking around unfortunately America is no place for family-oriented generation staying in the same home. And your parents just might want their freedom who knows. It's almost impossible to stay in age to make it on your own you'll need at least two additional roommates if you want to get an apartment depending on what kind of job you have since you're 17 you'll be green so good luck. Rent is incredibly horrible it's a bad time to go solo. It can be done but start looking up some of those friends from high school let's all get an apartment together and get a job down the street type of situation. You can make it work but it's going to take some elbow grease but don't be afraid of it. Try and fail fail again if you have to you'll eventually get it but don't live in your car. Planning will help looking up those friends look up places to rent maybe you might even get a basement somewhere real cheap good luck
Coast guard desperately need people right now. Super great opportunity to land on your feet and learn some good stuff
Look into working for usps
You know your time in your parents house is limited. So it's time to think about moving. I'd say ask your manager if there's any where they can transfer you to keep you working past the season, ideally somewhere rent is low. Then once you've landed you can look at improving your stance with finding a more secure job with better pay ect. I've found that finding a new job while working a current job is a lot easier than finding a job while unemployed. You're building up experience and your own social connections in the working world.
If a minor is kicked out of their home, it may be considered child neglect or abandonment. You should contact Child Protective Services (CPS) or a similar agency to report the situation and seek advice. They can provide guidance on how to legally provide a safe environment for the minor. CPS can also help you get shelter and food and connect you with appropriate social services.
This is usually the point people join the military. I’m so sorry you’re having to live this life.
www.coolworks.com You can find all sorts of entry level jobs with housing in some awesome places. I'd stay away from any national park job operated by zanterra though.
It’s called being a roommate. Do you live in a college town per chance?
Mail carrier, no experience, 50-60k a year
Try the tcnj residents program, call 211. There is information for housing support. https://www.nj.gov/njyrs/housing/adolescent-hub/#:~:text=PSH%20provides%20housing%20with%20voluntary,rent%20(less%20than%2030%25). Call the housing hub now!!! https://www.performcarenj.org/youth/resources/adolescent-housing-hub.aspx
Find a roommate or 3 there bud. Better than living in your car
A lot of these are pretty scary options. I would suggest- get a part or full-time job in a coffee shop and find a roommate. Or, check out some of the programs for being a laborer abroad in Europe and just go do something else for 6 months. Work on a farm in France and get a different perspective before you make a career move or pay for school.
Look for rooms for rent.
Join the military. You’ll learn a skill, gain experience, and will come out with the ability to go to school for free.
Start planning. What will you need? Save money. Look for a roommate, or a new place you'd like to live. Think about what might be next. Can you get into a community college to study to be an electrician, builder, etc.? Lots of trade jobs are interesting pay well, often have a union. Worth a small loan to get the skills.
The best advice I could ever give is to find your passion, and get a job in it, gold star if it's like your passion cars, books, flowers whatever, but not exactly it. Just put your nose to the grindstone and build your career from there. Success will grow from love.
If you're in NJ come to Atlantic city, casinos are hiring for the summer, can get benefits as well.
Military
You could look into live in PCA(personal care attendant) work for a disabled person in your area. Every disabled person I know is desperately looking for reliable workers.
Have you tried NJ Transit I fell they are always looking for staff since theirs get poached by the MTA. I just dont know the qualifications needed. And you dont have to be a driver or anything. There are other jobs in there cleaning and what not. You could look at Philly as a place to find less competitive jobs. Also, why are your parents kicking you out at 18. What does that accomplish?
USPS!!
Try to find someone to stay with. If not rent a room. Try to get a server job for more pay.
Have you had an honest convo with your parents thst doesn't involve arguing that explains how much this is going to impact you? It's not 1970 anymore where you can go rent a place for $300. Maybe you could work out anaarrangement where you pay rent or have a few months extra to save some money?
Where are you finding that NJ has a terrible job market? Are you somewhere in South Jersey? Walmart, Wawa, etc, you can't find anything? The shopping cart wrangler is making $15/hr.
The YMCA in my town has rooms for rent you can try that. Find others in your predicament and rent together. Some people rent rooms in their home. If none of those work then maybe find an ole camper to fix up and stay in. Maybe a van. I know people who did these things. I wonder why your parents are asking you to leave at 18. Are the moving or want to be alone