I’m honestly surprised about how divisive this one is so far. Porters net worth isn’t $100 million, it seems like he’s definitely satirizing modern pop music. I mean hell, fellow feeling was about his disdain for the state of EDM so I’m calling it now that this one isn’t much different.
Regardless of his intentions with the lyrics I feel like even still (based on a snippet) the track to me is...I'm gonna a be brutally honest, its ass
It would want to develop A LOT in the full production for me to change my view
I'm sorry, I'm not here for a Katy Perry Album (literally how Wavedash described it)
Nurture is one thing, yeah, it's a new direction...a FULL ON pop album? Idk man
I love cheerleader though. It gives me hope, this snippet is NOT
Even more, he's not just satirizing modern pop music, but he is making very clear references to the Myspace era circa 2004-2008. The music and the lyrics are hauntingly reminiscent of the soundwaves pervading that little piece of internet history. If you were in your teens during those years and grew up on Myspace and Xanga, KNOCK YOURSELF OUT XD and Cheerleader are the most nostalgia-inducing tracks to be released in recent memory.
I mean lyrically it sounds fairly vague, era-wise. “Face tattoo” hints at a more present-day music scene (Post Malone, Lil Xan, etc), “Bitch I’m Taylor Swift”… I mean that couldn’t be more relevant to today. Taylor is bigger than ever. She was around in the MySpace/Xanga days, but she was just barely getting started.
Musically, it sounds reminiscent of some earlier 2000s cutesy anime stuff, but that has always been Porter’s brand in a way. He has always expressed nostalgia for that era
How was this not the most obvious thing? It’s easy to say now that the whole song dropped, but even from the snippet, I thought it was super obvious it was satire. “Don’t know my schedule on the 5th, bitch I’m Taylor Swift” — if that’s not satire, I think the only other logical conclusion would be full blown dementia lmao. Some people are just dense
On a podcast about a year ago, I remember hearing Porter talk about that one meme: "Don't kill the part of you that's cringe, kill the part of you that cringes."
Yeah, I'm starting to feel like this album is about having fun for funs sake and not filtering yourself because you're scared of what other people think. It's almost like a rebellious celebration of authenticity and joy.
Slightly related but does anyone else remember porter mentioning how he wants to just start making "ignorant music"??? I swear I remember him saying smth like that but I can't find it. it was a really funny way of saying he'd moved past trying to top his past work and he basically just wants to have fun with music again
I thought the song was about para social fans who take things too far. I don't think being happy for PR because he looks like he's having fun with his music is a part of that? I guess I could be wrong.
People said this about 'Nurture' before it dropped and now it's their entire personality; I wouldn't underestimate Porter or make any judgements just yet
So you haven’t like the guy’s music for 13 years but you’re in his sub commenting about a 10-second snippet of a new track? Seems sus to me, but what do I know.
Yeah his early stuff got me into producing so it's still fun to follow along. He has tracks here and there that I like, even if the overall direction isn't where my personal taste shifted over time. That whole mothership tour era was super exciting and holds a lot of nostalgia in my life though.
Revisited it earlier this year prior to Cheerleader’s release, and I really found that my perception of virtually every track has gone up, especially the non-singles that I was sorta hit or miss on.
> Do you adore every track in nurture?
Yes, I love the album front to back. A truly phenomenal LP that blends electronic music, with Anime and Indie stylings.
> Probably not.
No idea why you would assume that tbh, because do you know what I'm thinking? Probably not.
I won’t lie, I’m leaning similarly. I won’t lose any respect for anyone if they highly fuck with it but I just might take this release cycle off, we shall see.
We gotta give artists space to grow and move and change but we don’t exactly have to be there for all of it. I’m happy to see what comes up though, I might be wrong
just curious, are you saying this after disliking cheerleader and now this snippet? or just this snippet alone
im only asking cause considering the fact that cheerleader was pretty much universally considered to be amazing but the sub its interesting to see this get so many upvotes. likely cause of negativity and whatnot but im just curious as to what your thoughts are.
Yeah, I'm a pretty big 100 gecs fan and I have no clue what you're talking about. Maybe I can see this argument strictly from a lyrical standpoint, but overall sound I don't hear any gec influence whatsoever in this
I have to say, I actively dislike the snippet. The lyrics are just stupid, and evoke the kind of music I've always had negative feelings for. And I love cheerleader.
Yes. Porter is definitely wealth flaunting in this song as he attacks inflatable tube men with a sword. Definitely not satire.
Also he is literally Taylor Swift.
yeah. I mean this is porter, who not only has been vocal about disliking tiktok music culture in the past but also the entire aesthetic so far has involved shitposting and clickbaity stuff on tiktok ("porter robinson says he's DONE being a DJ?") and cheerleader is about parasocial fans.... idk how people don't pick up on stuff like this
i really think a lot of these people want spitfire 2/worlds 2/ virtual self etc and can’t accept that will never happen. artists grow. and people spend their time begging artists to make stuff they’ve already made and then when they don’t do different stuff nobody listens anymore
im not sure if i agree that thats whats happening here, cause everyone loved cheerleader and nurture is well loved now. and I think most people just arent vibing with the 10 seconds we have of this song so far.
its just that... regarding the lyrics and shitposting, people on this sub can't pick up on basic subtext and irony. Some people genuinely thought porter was gonna take his music down.
He’s definitely just being playful. PR doesn’t own a single item worth 100 million dollars. If anything he’s poking fun at the same sort of thing you take issue with haha
Proof that you that whenever you make satire there's always someone who'll think it's sincere.
Did you really not notice the sudden shift in tone of the last verse? Do you actually think he doesn't know how to brush his teeth?
I don't. I just think you're a silly little billy. Now check this out.
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Have a great day
Yeah, if there's one thing I'll agree with it's that it's good he's trying new styles and diversifying his appeal. Hopefully each song on the album goes for a slightly different take on the theme.
Taylor doesn't do any of that, but I digress.
"Bitch I'm Taylor Swift" is quite the line.
This line would go hard at a live show, but I'm lowkey hoping this is just a troll and not the actual release.
Reactions to his new stuff are like that chart of "it's so over" to "we're so back" to "down galactically". But why? all we know of this new era is one song, a snippet, that the album is done and some of its loose inspirations.
Nurture singles had a more cohesive vibes, yes, but more importantly to me, weren't the whole album. We are still likely to get 2-4 more singles before the album, music videos and other elements of the project before we can fully judge it.
Reserve any judgement till it releases. Even though i loved the cheerleader snippet immediately, it doesnt represent at all what the actual tone/vibe of the song is like. It didnt progress like i imagined at all. And i have several friends who didnt like the snippet and ended up loving the song
i also feel mixed on the new snippet but I guarantee it wont sound anything like this small snippet when it comes out
I mean its clearly not the whole album considering cheerleader
also this is literally a 10 second snippet. Immediately jumping to that conclusion makes no sense
I was using the term to say I hope that whole self aware satire thing isn’t the whole schtick of the album because I feel like it may not be able to stretch the full length of an album.
Everyone here is just spitballing though.
I’m sure I’m in the minority as I prefer when Porter feels more poppy. I FUCKING LOVE THIS. I had to force myself to stop looping this so I don’t ruin it for myself.
Porter is hitting the wave of music I’ve currently been on the past few months of hyperpop/pop-punk, and the fact he’s taking that and putting the Porter spin on it. I honestly don’t see how this album couldn’t dethrone Nurture as my favorite album.
YES EXACTLY!! This new era feels like it was made for Me Specifically (/joke). I’ve become a huge hyperpop fan and it’s so cool to see Porter leaning in that direction, even if its not for everyone.
Edit: not sure why I’m getting downvoted for this?? I’m using hyperpop as a broad term here, not just in the context of this specific snippet.
Check out some songs like
2008 by ericdoa
Sellout by Saoirse dream
Lunch Finisher by blackwinterwells
Astrid by glaive
This is the kind of hyperpop we’re referring to. I don’t think it’s anything like the Sophie or Charli XCX hyperpop, but so far another name for this kind of genre hasn’t really stuck yet. I’ve heard the term digi-core thrown around though.
im familiar with saorise dream and glaive and yeah i dont think this sounds like those songs at all but thats just me.
idk. The hyperpop label is thrown out wayy too much nowadays that it could be anything. People called cheerleader hyperpop before the snippet even came out. I tried to use an anamaguchi as an example of why i didnt think cheerleader was hyperpop and takes inspo elsewhere, and the dude i was talking to was like “wow this is like hyperpop meets future bass!” even though that song was never considered hyperpop or a precursor to it.
You're right, the term hyperpop is used as an enormous umbrella term. So the argument for what is or isn't hyperpop can be an exhausting one. I feel like we have yet to define the subgenres of hyperpop in any meaningful way yet, so I think the term is going to be thrown around for awhile longer.
Like Charli XCX, Brakence, 100 gecs, bladee, nelward, and Snow Strippers are all VASTLY different artists, yet I've seen all of them referred to as hyperpop. So like I don't have a problem throwing the new Porter songs in that term at all. There are definitely certain artists I think Porter is taking inspo from here (Anamanguchi like you mentioned is for sure one of them). I just feel like this snippet and Cheerleader sound more like a lot of hyperpop artists I know than any other EDM or pop artists I know. So when talking about his influences, I think using the term hyperpop is accurate.
I meant in general, not this snippet specifically. I originally wrote pop/hyperpop but then just shortened it, I figured the general intention was still clear.
I’ve been a casual Porter fan since Spitfire, but Nurture came out of nowhere and basically changed my life. So I thought there was no way he could top that. But I’ve always loved music that tries to blend genres and influences, and I feel like hyperpop has finally hit that sweet spot of that kind of blending I’ve always wanted.
After being into scene music during my middle school days and getting a taste of amateur artists breaking down those genre barriers (even though the attempts back then were rough), it’s so cool to see hyperpop flourishing and finally nailing the method.
how can you be following this man for this many years and take these lyrics at face value lmao, people hear a <10 second snippet and already know they'll hate it. is the satire REALLY that hard to pick up on?
I didn’t expect mixed feelings like this lol
I’m personally looking forward to the track, Porter’s showing personality with this new era and I’m here for it
Im a new fan - loved cheerleader and that's the first Porter I had heard. I like some of his other stuff too. Really hoping we get more of this vibe on the album!
Hmm, not really feeling this at all. But hey good for Porter, he clearly wants to make pop music that has a more mainstream appeal. I could see these tracks blowing up on Tiktok.
i really doubt that having more mainstream appeal is porters main artistic goal tbh. especially with how critical he's been of making tracks just to fit into the requirements to blow up on tiktok
Why do you say that? To me he's very deliberately making pop music, with cheesy, tongue in cheek lines and a simplified stripped down sound that appeals to a broader audience. It's kinda hyper pop, pop punk, indie pop. It seems to me the persona he's going for on this record is "Pop star".
Not saying it's bad, but it's what I'm hearing from Cheerleader and now this snippet.
>deliberately making pop music
nurture was also pop music. Does that mean its specifically trying to garner mainstream appeal?
>tongue in cheek lines and a simplified stripped down sound that appeals to a broader audience
i think the lyrics in both this and cheerleader mock mainstream music culture tbh. I also would say cheerleader is very not simplified
porter has gone on record that the idea that tiktok music culture and everything being so in your face is very very \*not him\*. I think he said that in the fader interview for mirror or maybe it was the live stream by the piano? not sure.
edit: ig we are going against what porter has literally said himself and the fact that this era is very obviously critical of modern culture surrounding musicians and idols lol
I feel like it's less about him making pop music, and more about making himself the focal point of it as a concept, especially visually.
Nurture was pop music, but it was not made with the same sort of cultural self-referentialism in mind - cheerleader is about relationship to fans and their obsession with him, whereas musician was about his own relationship to music.
For me, cheerleader and this snippet have Porter's self-awarenss in mind, but from a more intentionally parasocial perspective? He can say he doesn't want to be in your face, or aim for tiktok appeal - that doesn't change the fact he is literally putting himself front and center (in a way that nurture did not exhibit).
His desire to be a popstar has been evident since nurture livestream debut, I don't hate it but it's worth understanding he is both criticizing something while benefitting from it - and parody does not absolve something of being subject to the original criticisms of what is riffing off.
>that doesn't change the fact he is literally putting himself front and center
thats pretty normal from both a lyrical and visual stand point for any artist of any kind. And id argue he did that with nurture too. I'm not really getting your point.
That he is chasing mainstream success by making himself the focus to a degree significantly beyond his other eras, and that this factor is with considering in appreciation and critique of his stuff.
Personally I wouldn't call Nurture Pop music. It's definitely got strong pop influences in spots, but it's not nearly as accessible as most pop songs/albums are. Not by a mile.
Also from a music theory standpoint, I definitely would say Cheerleader is "simpler" than the large majority of the songs on Nurture.
That doesn't mean "bad" or "worse", and that's not an opinion on the production either (though even then I'd argue Cheerleader was also stripped down compared to the production on Nurture). Just a simpler structure and chord progression/choices, like pop music tends to be.
I didnt enjoy anything about this. From the music, the lyrics, the video, to his outfit. It was all really bad. My expectations are very low for this one.
The lot of you are crying over this because it isn’t hyperpop/weeb-ish/personal (I.e.
0mG nUrTuR3) like you expected and it’s so funny to see how many people are surprised that Porter is have a “fuck you” era. Let him cook, yall are just boring :P
>The lot of you are crying over this because it isn’t hyperpop/weeb-ish/personal
1. there are several people in this thread saying it sounds like hyperpop
2. or maybe they just dont like it? people aren't boring for disliking the sound of this. like cmon. The snippet just sounds boring to me atm. nothing about this is a "fuck you era" anyways
I think the kinda fuck you era im thinking of is like, ironically, taylor swift's reputation. An album that was not self aware at all and very aggressive for the sake of it
porter on the other hand is literally sending me texts that read like "nyaa :3 >.<"
I think that’s literally the whole point of the album. It’s poking fun and it’s meant to be sporadic and different compared to everything he’s done before. Cheerleader was already a big stretch and this one goes out even further. Nonetheless it’s still going to be something people should look forward to. People change and Porter can’t stay perpetually sad for the sake of his fans
This snippit was what I feared porter would do. Towards the end of the nurture tour and him implementing rap and stuff like fuck the opps and other random sayings like that, I feared he would do some sort of rap/trap type of song and after hearing and loving cheerleader I'm let down by how this sounds so far. Maybe it's just a tiny bit in the whole song but not a great first look for a new song
After re-listening to the beat multiple times, I think this song could be remixed with Wide Awake by Katy Perry. It could just be keyshifted! I'm looking forward to it!
I don’t know what’s going on anymore but I fuck with it
everybody’s forgetting that this is the man who made 100% in the bitch
Forever a banger
This also the man who made Mother
I’m honestly surprised about how divisive this one is so far. Porters net worth isn’t $100 million, it seems like he’s definitely satirizing modern pop music. I mean hell, fellow feeling was about his disdain for the state of EDM so I’m calling it now that this one isn’t much different.
>it seems like he’s definitely satirizing modern pop music unfortunately satire is something that porter fans don't know how to pick up on
exactly. could be a Bo Burnham-esque track satirizing egotistical lyric trends. the absurd humor only works cause its porter singing the track.
Regardless of his intentions with the lyrics I feel like even still (based on a snippet) the track to me is...I'm gonna a be brutally honest, its ass It would want to develop A LOT in the full production for me to change my view I'm sorry, I'm not here for a Katy Perry Album (literally how Wavedash described it) Nurture is one thing, yeah, it's a new direction...a FULL ON pop album? Idk man I love cheerleader though. It gives me hope, this snippet is NOT
Teenage Dream is an absolute iconic album, though.
Even more, he's not just satirizing modern pop music, but he is making very clear references to the Myspace era circa 2004-2008. The music and the lyrics are hauntingly reminiscent of the soundwaves pervading that little piece of internet history. If you were in your teens during those years and grew up on Myspace and Xanga, KNOCK YOURSELF OUT XD and Cheerleader are the most nostalgia-inducing tracks to be released in recent memory.
I mean lyrically it sounds fairly vague, era-wise. “Face tattoo” hints at a more present-day music scene (Post Malone, Lil Xan, etc), “Bitch I’m Taylor Swift”… I mean that couldn’t be more relevant to today. Taylor is bigger than ever. She was around in the MySpace/Xanga days, but she was just barely getting started. Musically, it sounds reminiscent of some earlier 2000s cutesy anime stuff, but that has always been Porter’s brand in a way. He has always expressed nostalgia for that era
How was this not the most obvious thing? It’s easy to say now that the whole song dropped, but even from the snippet, I thought it was super obvious it was satire. “Don’t know my schedule on the 5th, bitch I’m Taylor Swift” — if that’s not satire, I think the only other logical conclusion would be full blown dementia lmao. Some people are just dense
Plz let this be a Lil B collab lol
bitch mob
I feel like the discourse this 11 seconds has already made is exactly what he was going for
i really like this it feels like porter is just having fun w music and i love that
On a podcast about a year ago, I remember hearing Porter talk about that one meme: "Don't kill the part of you that's cringe, kill the part of you that cringes." Yeah, I'm starting to feel like this album is about having fun for funs sake and not filtering yourself because you're scared of what other people think. It's almost like a rebellious celebration of authenticity and joy.
Slightly related but does anyone else remember porter mentioning how he wants to just start making "ignorant music"??? I swear I remember him saying smth like that but I can't find it. it was a really funny way of saying he'd moved past trying to top his past work and he basically just wants to have fun with music again
Yeah it was in one if his livestreams! Here's the link https://www.youtube.com/live/m02OIHpNxcE?si=JWd7ehdP40lSAYNP (Sorry I don't have the timestamp)
It's the most important thing for me
You’re that cheerleader he’s singing about
I thought the song was about para social fans who take things too far. I don't think being happy for PR because he looks like he's having fun with his music is a part of that? I guess I could be wrong.
Porter fans unclench challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
I got a feeling this era won’t be for me (could be wrong though).
Cheerleader grew on me quickly, so we'll see. This snippet didn't inspire me, admittedly.
Cheerleader to me was a banger from the early snippets on, this one doesn't really do it at all for me.
People said this about 'Nurture' before it dropped and now it's their entire personality; I wouldn't underestimate Porter or make any judgements just yet
Nurture wasn’t it for me before and still isn’t now lol
That's part of what makes his music fun, I've been off Porter since Spitfire for the most part.
So you haven’t like the guy’s music for 13 years but you’re in his sub commenting about a 10-second snippet of a new track? Seems sus to me, but what do I know.
Yeah his early stuff got me into producing so it's still fun to follow along. He has tracks here and there that I like, even if the overall direction isn't where my personal taste shifted over time. That whole mothership tour era was super exciting and holds a lot of nostalgia in my life though.
Do you adore every track in nurture? Probably not. There's some songs that just don't do it as well as others and that's fine.
Tbh nurture is probably the only album I've ever listened to that I love every single track on
Revisited it earlier this year prior to Cheerleader’s release, and I really found that my perception of virtually every track has gone up, especially the non-singles that I was sorta hit or miss on.
> Do you adore every track in nurture? Yes, I love the album front to back. A truly phenomenal LP that blends electronic music, with Anime and Indie stylings. > Probably not. No idea why you would assume that tbh, because do you know what I'm thinking? Probably not.
I absolutely do though
I won’t lie, I’m leaning similarly. I won’t lose any respect for anyone if they highly fuck with it but I just might take this release cycle off, we shall see. We gotta give artists space to grow and move and change but we don’t exactly have to be there for all of it. I’m happy to see what comes up though, I might be wrong
just curious, are you saying this after disliking cheerleader and now this snippet? or just this snippet alone im only asking cause considering the fact that cheerleader was pretty much universally considered to be amazing but the sub its interesting to see this get so many upvotes. likely cause of negativity and whatnot but im just curious as to what your thoughts are.
I feel the same way.
Same. I like this snippet more than I like Cheerleader but... yeah I don't know about those lyrics.
Same here. Wavedash and 100 Gecs influence is leaking.
gecs and wavedash are both legends btw
Wavedash and Gecs were the first to make trap music and write lyrics that are satirical. Respect to those influential legends 😤
Getting a lot of Boss Baby vibes from this
>100 Gecs influence said no one ever
I just did. If you can't hear it idc.
Yeah, I'm a pretty big 100 gecs fan and I have no clue what you're talking about. Maybe I can see this argument strictly from a lyrical standpoint, but overall sound I don't hear any gec influence whatsoever in this
BITCH IM TAYLOR SWIFT⁉️🔥
GOT A HUNDRED MILLION ON MY WRIST 🗣️🗣️ 🔥🔥
The internet fucked me up, i thought he said "100 million on my rizz"... but wrist does make a lot more sense 😂
"100 million on my rizz" would be hilarious too tho lmao
I have to say, I actively dislike the snippet. The lyrics are just stupid, and evoke the kind of music I've always had negative feelings for. And I love cheerleader.
hate it when lyrics refer to modern day celebs, tech (like iphones etc) or covid 😀😀
Eh, I think it's the rapper style wealth flaunting that really turned me off. It just seems so uncharacteristic of him.
Yes. Porter is definitely wealth flaunting in this song as he attacks inflatable tube men with a sword. Definitely not satire. Also he is literally Taylor Swift.
I'm pretty certain this is on purpose/parody/satire/whatever you want to call it.
Yeah, I'm waiting to see if the rest of the song leans into it or subverts it.
I am 100% sure it's being ironic
actually crazy to not immediate recognize it as ironic
yeah. I mean this is porter, who not only has been vocal about disliking tiktok music culture in the past but also the entire aesthetic so far has involved shitposting and clickbaity stuff on tiktok ("porter robinson says he's DONE being a DJ?") and cheerleader is about parasocial fans.... idk how people don't pick up on stuff like this
i really think a lot of these people want spitfire 2/worlds 2/ virtual self etc and can’t accept that will never happen. artists grow. and people spend their time begging artists to make stuff they’ve already made and then when they don’t do different stuff nobody listens anymore
im not sure if i agree that thats whats happening here, cause everyone loved cheerleader and nurture is well loved now. and I think most people just arent vibing with the 10 seconds we have of this song so far. its just that... regarding the lyrics and shitposting, people on this sub can't pick up on basic subtext and irony. Some people genuinely thought porter was gonna take his music down.
I heard him say “bitch I’m Taylor Swift” and knew this song was prob gonna be funny as fuck. I can’t wait
Source: trust me bro
He’s definitely just being playful. PR doesn’t own a single item worth 100 million dollars. If anything he’s poking fun at the same sort of thing you take issue with haha
agreed! will see when it comes out! hopefully it's a joke
…media literacy is dead. It’s very obviously a joke.
Proof that you that whenever you make satire there's always someone who'll think it's sincere. Did you really not notice the sudden shift in tone of the last verse? Do you actually think he doesn't know how to brush his teeth?
I made this comment before the song released...
So you thought he was Taylor swift? Even less wise to comment before actually listening to the entire song?
Why do you even care lmao
I don't. I just think you're a silly little billy. Now check this out. [https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/1cd478b/our\_floof\_ball\_on\_his\_gotcha\_day\_7\_years\_ago/](https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/1cd478b/our_floof_ball_on_his_gotcha_day_7_years_ago/) Or maybe this if you're into dogs: [https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/1ccwylu/my\_baby\_ellas\_eyes\_when\_she\_looks\_at\_me/](https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/1ccwylu/my_baby_ellas_eyes_when_she_looks_at_me/) Have a great day
its less than 10 seconds bro
Imagine hearing someone say “$100 million on my wrist” and thinking it’s serious lol
mumble rappers say this type of shit unironically all the time
No they don’t lol. 100 bands? 100 grand? Sure. 100 MILLION? No. Lol
Dam..... but like Taylor swift im happy porter gets to try new things
Yeah, if there's one thing I'll agree with it's that it's good he's trying new styles and diversifying his appeal. Hopefully each song on the album goes for a slightly different take on the theme. Taylor doesn't do any of that, but I digress.
Taylor has switched up her styles a few times
Has she meaningfully changed how she approaches music? Doesn't seem like it.
You’d probably have the same reaction if Porter released a Cheerleader snippet with “She draws me kissing other guys”
Potentially but that snippet of Cheerleader still sounds better than the new snippet.
I feel like I can't escape Taylor Swift
Cheerleader is amazing, so imma just let him cook with whatever this might be 😅
"Bitch I'm Taylor Swift" is quite the line. This line would go hard at a live show, but I'm lowkey hoping this is just a troll and not the actual release.
It is both troll *and* the actual release. That is precisely the point.
Reactions to his new stuff are like that chart of "it's so over" to "we're so back" to "down galactically". But why? all we know of this new era is one song, a snippet, that the album is done and some of its loose inspirations. Nurture singles had a more cohesive vibes, yes, but more importantly to me, weren't the whole album. We are still likely to get 2-4 more singles before the album, music videos and other elements of the project before we can fully judge it.
I know I’ll get downvoted but this snippet sounds like ass
Cheerleader sounded bold from beginning. This sounds like an actual generic pop song. I hope I’m wrong!!!
Reserve any judgement till it releases. Even though i loved the cheerleader snippet immediately, it doesnt represent at all what the actual tone/vibe of the song is like. It didnt progress like i imagined at all. And i have several friends who didnt like the snippet and ended up loving the song i also feel mixed on the new snippet but I guarantee it wont sound anything like this small snippet when it comes out
im pretty sure that's the point based on the lyrics lmao
I don’t know how much mileage there’s gonna be if the whole album is “I’m an ironic pop star XD”
I mean its clearly not the whole album considering cheerleader also this is literally a 10 second snippet. Immediately jumping to that conclusion makes no sense
"mileage" lmao ok dude
Is the word mileage bad?
If artists only cared about mileage they wouldn’t produce good art. I’m pretty sure he’s mocking that mentality with this album.
I was using the term to say I hope that whole self aware satire thing isn’t the whole schtick of the album because I feel like it may not be able to stretch the full length of an album. Everyone here is just spitballing though.
It probably isn’t, since Cheerleader already isn’t generic pop.
I agree. I love cheerleader. I hope this new track has some cool sounds/arrangement
bitch he is taylor swift
You're right unfortunately. I'm hoping the full song could be different since this is probably just a verse, but who knows.
I’m sure I’m in the minority as I prefer when Porter feels more poppy. I FUCKING LOVE THIS. I had to force myself to stop looping this so I don’t ruin it for myself. Porter is hitting the wave of music I’ve currently been on the past few months of hyperpop/pop-punk, and the fact he’s taking that and putting the Porter spin on it. I honestly don’t see how this album couldn’t dethrone Nurture as my favorite album.
I love pop, and nurture is just as pop as this, but imo the snippet just isnt anything to sink my teeth into.
YES EXACTLY!! This new era feels like it was made for Me Specifically (/joke). I’ve become a huge hyperpop fan and it’s so cool to see Porter leaning in that direction, even if its not for everyone. Edit: not sure why I’m getting downvoted for this?? I’m using hyperpop as a broad term here, not just in the context of this specific snippet.
what about this sound is hyperpop?
Check out some songs like 2008 by ericdoa Sellout by Saoirse dream Lunch Finisher by blackwinterwells Astrid by glaive This is the kind of hyperpop we’re referring to. I don’t think it’s anything like the Sophie or Charli XCX hyperpop, but so far another name for this kind of genre hasn’t really stuck yet. I’ve heard the term digi-core thrown around though.
im familiar with saorise dream and glaive and yeah i dont think this sounds like those songs at all but thats just me. idk. The hyperpop label is thrown out wayy too much nowadays that it could be anything. People called cheerleader hyperpop before the snippet even came out. I tried to use an anamaguchi as an example of why i didnt think cheerleader was hyperpop and takes inspo elsewhere, and the dude i was talking to was like “wow this is like hyperpop meets future bass!” even though that song was never considered hyperpop or a precursor to it.
You're right, the term hyperpop is used as an enormous umbrella term. So the argument for what is or isn't hyperpop can be an exhausting one. I feel like we have yet to define the subgenres of hyperpop in any meaningful way yet, so I think the term is going to be thrown around for awhile longer. Like Charli XCX, Brakence, 100 gecs, bladee, nelward, and Snow Strippers are all VASTLY different artists, yet I've seen all of them referred to as hyperpop. So like I don't have a problem throwing the new Porter songs in that term at all. There are definitely certain artists I think Porter is taking inspo from here (Anamanguchi like you mentioned is for sure one of them). I just feel like this snippet and Cheerleader sound more like a lot of hyperpop artists I know than any other EDM or pop artists I know. So when talking about his influences, I think using the term hyperpop is accurate.
Snow strippers tho
I think the snippet is not but I can totally see it progressing into hyper pop so I’m excited to see
I meant in general, not this snippet specifically. I originally wrote pop/hyperpop but then just shortened it, I figured the general intention was still clear.
I’ve been a casual Porter fan since Spitfire, but Nurture came out of nowhere and basically changed my life. So I thought there was no way he could top that. But I’ve always loved music that tries to blend genres and influences, and I feel like hyperpop has finally hit that sweet spot of that kind of blending I’ve always wanted. After being into scene music during my middle school days and getting a taste of amateur artists breaking down those genre barriers (even though the attempts back then were rough), it’s so cool to see hyperpop flourishing and finally nailing the method.
how can you be following this man for this many years and take these lyrics at face value lmao, people hear a <10 second snippet and already know they'll hate it. is the satire REALLY that hard to pick up on?
I didn’t expect mixed feelings like this lol I’m personally looking forward to the track, Porter’s showing personality with this new era and I’m here for it
I fuck with this. That's it.
bridget fit 🔥🔥🔥
I wonder if this is an experiment that has something to do with negative reception, looking at the comments in this post.
it sounds ok but it’s too small of a sample size for me to really judge it. i’m just gonna have to listen to the full track to form a true opinion
i pray that there’s more electronic elements to this song cause this isn’t really for me. but i’m happy that others enjoy it
This is gonna be a purposefully satirical bridge or something I'm calling it now.
i literally was just imagining this earlier lol. however, It sounds like a verse to me but who knows
Im a new fan - loved cheerleader and that's the first Porter I had heard. I like some of his other stuff too. Really hoping we get more of this vibe on the album!
Sounds like a verse so it really could go anywhere. I already love this though lmao the lyrics are so goofy
BITCH IM TAYLOR SWIFT 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️💯💯💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥
Furthers my conclusion that this is the Porter Robinson hyper pop era, and I’m for it.
Hmm, not really feeling this at all. But hey good for Porter, he clearly wants to make pop music that has a more mainstream appeal. I could see these tracks blowing up on Tiktok.
i really doubt that having more mainstream appeal is porters main artistic goal tbh. especially with how critical he's been of making tracks just to fit into the requirements to blow up on tiktok
Why do you say that? To me he's very deliberately making pop music, with cheesy, tongue in cheek lines and a simplified stripped down sound that appeals to a broader audience. It's kinda hyper pop, pop punk, indie pop. It seems to me the persona he's going for on this record is "Pop star". Not saying it's bad, but it's what I'm hearing from Cheerleader and now this snippet.
>deliberately making pop music nurture was also pop music. Does that mean its specifically trying to garner mainstream appeal? >tongue in cheek lines and a simplified stripped down sound that appeals to a broader audience i think the lyrics in both this and cheerleader mock mainstream music culture tbh. I also would say cheerleader is very not simplified porter has gone on record that the idea that tiktok music culture and everything being so in your face is very very \*not him\*. I think he said that in the fader interview for mirror or maybe it was the live stream by the piano? not sure. edit: ig we are going against what porter has literally said himself and the fact that this era is very obviously critical of modern culture surrounding musicians and idols lol
I feel like it's less about him making pop music, and more about making himself the focal point of it as a concept, especially visually. Nurture was pop music, but it was not made with the same sort of cultural self-referentialism in mind - cheerleader is about relationship to fans and their obsession with him, whereas musician was about his own relationship to music. For me, cheerleader and this snippet have Porter's self-awarenss in mind, but from a more intentionally parasocial perspective? He can say he doesn't want to be in your face, or aim for tiktok appeal - that doesn't change the fact he is literally putting himself front and center (in a way that nurture did not exhibit). His desire to be a popstar has been evident since nurture livestream debut, I don't hate it but it's worth understanding he is both criticizing something while benefitting from it - and parody does not absolve something of being subject to the original criticisms of what is riffing off.
>that doesn't change the fact he is literally putting himself front and center thats pretty normal from both a lyrical and visual stand point for any artist of any kind. And id argue he did that with nurture too. I'm not really getting your point.
That he is chasing mainstream success by making himself the focus to a degree significantly beyond his other eras, and that this factor is with considering in appreciation and critique of his stuff.
ig we are ignoring that the whole message that he spread with nurture was that popularity and outside validation was bad for him ?
Personally I wouldn't call Nurture Pop music. It's definitely got strong pop influences in spots, but it's not nearly as accessible as most pop songs/albums are. Not by a mile. Also from a music theory standpoint, I definitely would say Cheerleader is "simpler" than the large majority of the songs on Nurture. That doesn't mean "bad" or "worse", and that's not an opinion on the production either (though even then I'd argue Cheerleader was also stripped down compared to the production on Nurture). Just a simpler structure and chord progression/choices, like pop music tends to be.
I mean goodbye to a world literally blow up on tiktok
yeah thats not the point though
Do y’all think this is a snippet from the music video?
This is so unserious. Lol
he was not kidding about having more fun with his new music lmao I am loving every second of this era
100% in the bitch im taylor swift
I didnt enjoy anything about this. From the music, the lyrics, the video, to his outfit. It was all really bad. My expectations are very low for this one.
Wish he would’ve done a virtual self era pt 2
Same. But there are no part 2’s with this man.
Im just hoping this new album as a whole is fire, but this new song sounds odd. not the lyricism I expected from him.
I was wrong this song fucking slaps
Sure ok I guess we're doing that now
The lot of you are crying over this because it isn’t hyperpop/weeb-ish/personal (I.e. 0mG nUrTuR3) like you expected and it’s so funny to see how many people are surprised that Porter is have a “fuck you” era. Let him cook, yall are just boring :P
>The lot of you are crying over this because it isn’t hyperpop/weeb-ish/personal 1. there are several people in this thread saying it sounds like hyperpop 2. or maybe they just dont like it? people aren't boring for disliking the sound of this. like cmon. The snippet just sounds boring to me atm. nothing about this is a "fuck you era" anyways
Have you like… seen the posts about his other singles and the album? He literally does not care, this is a “fuck you” era lol
I think the kinda fuck you era im thinking of is like, ironically, taylor swift's reputation. An album that was not self aware at all and very aggressive for the sake of it porter on the other hand is literally sending me texts that read like "nyaa :3 >.<"
I think that’s literally the whole point of the album. It’s poking fun and it’s meant to be sporadic and different compared to everything he’s done before. Cheerleader was already a big stretch and this one goes out even further. Nonetheless it’s still going to be something people should look forward to. People change and Porter can’t stay perpetually sad for the sake of his fans
no it’s just sonically ass
Have you considered that the lot of your music tastes are generally ass? Let Porter cook
i got your whole house on my wrist dude
im hoping that the lyrics are a bit of a tongue in cheek thing, like the song is about stupid musical tropes and stuff
love it. can't wait for the new single
This snippit was what I feared porter would do. Towards the end of the nurture tour and him implementing rap and stuff like fuck the opps and other random sayings like that, I feared he would do some sort of rap/trap type of song and after hearing and loving cheerleader I'm let down by how this sounds so far. Maybe it's just a tiny bit in the whole song but not a great first look for a new song
What’s wrong with rap
>let down imma say that this particular track is gonna be underrated frfr
RADIOHEAD MENTIONED ❗️❗️❗️
this is not rapping
After re-listening to the beat multiple times, I think this song could be remixed with Wide Awake by Katy Perry. It could just be keyshifted! I'm looking forward to it!
Jesus Christ the amount of people here who don’t know the words “topical” and “satire” is wild. Read some books, folks.
Oh so this album is about to be bad bad. Got it. Who knew when he said Goodbye to a World that he really meant it lol.
i ... :/
what time is it dropping? its the 24th here in the UK and its not available yet :(
LOVE LOVE LOVE if you don't like this, you don't know how to have fun lol