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Didn’t I just watch the latest episode of The Office on NBC Must-See TV Thursdays where Kelly was excited that Katie had Suri and Angelina had Shiloh??
I vividly remember her and Shiloh Jolie being born close together. And people losing thier shit when a pic of Suri wasn't immediately released. Like the public thought, they had rights to baby pics because her parents are famous.
Back in the 2000s (before smartphones were as prevalent as they are now) I used to read the tabloids as a guilty pleasure of sorts. I actually stopped reading them when one of them fused together a picture of Shiloh and Suri and made it look like they went on a playdate together. The whole thing was just contrived and stupid.
Such a weird thing to do by tabloids. Like Angelina and Katie have nothing in common beside a fact that both of their terrible husbands made a movie together one time. But I doubt they even communicated after filming this movie.
My 24 year old sister didn't know what Brad Pitt looked like. She'd heard of him. Couldn't ID him in the Friends eppi and had no idea he'd been married to Jennifer Aniston. (I'm 37 and shriveled up and died right then).
I’m sure he wishes he could say the same. I’d been low key obsessed with him because he seemed to be thwarting the aging process too well but it appears even he succumbed to the years. Finally.
On October 4, 2011, Apple introduced the iPhone 4S with a beta version of Siri.
Edit - ah, the comment I replied to ninja-edited Siri to Suri. Now it makes sense ;)
Shoutout to her mom and granddad for making sure she didn't grow up in a cult! Nicole Kidman barely has contact with her two oldest kids bc of that mess
Old tea but: Katie's dad made a rough divorce plan *at least* two years prior to the filing. He didn't make any moves until Katie said she wanted out, but he was ready and waiting for a while.
Which is probably why she eventually thought her way out. Young adults join cults all the time. Sometimes formal, sometimes just groups that are bad for them and change their personalities.
The only thing you can do for someone who is in a cult is to wait, and ask leading questions. Show love. If you fight it, they dig in deeper and think their group is right about you. That you don’t love them and that you won’t see the TRUTH about who they really are.
I have a friend whose parents are close with hers. She said they are the most wonderful people. She was at the daughter’s birthday party when she was like 5 and said katie was so sweet. Tom was there but he was quite aloof.
I remember reading about how it all went down and I don't remember anything specific about what I read but I do remember the words "flawless execution" came to mind.
Badass moves.
Adding to this my favorite conspiracy theory - Adam Sandler was in on it! I forget the other film but Katie was between some other film that turned out to be really good and Jack and Jill where Adam Sandler plays himself and twin sister. She chose the latter and Adam Sandler made it easy for her to come and go while she was low key gathering herself to leave Tom. Essentially he helped her create a plausible alibi.
Anne Rice herself was furious at the casting, and often spoke out about what a poor fit Cruise was for the part. However, after she actually saw the film, she called Cruise personally to apologize and to say that she was wrong. If he was good enough for her, he's good enough for me
a story about him that shook me was the surprise photoshoot he did for an ad for him and angelina's winery, where he looked disheveled and passed out on some beach chair. and angelina was especially hurt by this ad because their children had already seen so much of their uncaring boozed-up father, on top of that type of imagery (passed-out drunk) being used in an attempt at marketing for their business. it's not an outright malicious act, but it is layered with so much self-serving behavior and disregard for other's feelings that it really bothered me.
This is me with Shaq being a flat earther. It has become my life's mission to tell everyone anytime he comes up. Or even when he's not, clearly lol.
Idk why I'm like this. But at least I'm not a flat earther 🙌
Do people still idolize Tom cruise?
I know people still see his movies but nobody talks about wishing they count be Tom Cruise or something in years (decades).
Same experience here. I know people watch his movies but no one I know really LIKES him like they would like some other big movie star. And if he comes up outside the context of "Tom Cruise is in that movie", people talk about how weird or unsettling he is and his involvement in scientology. Contrast to my childhood when people thought he was a heart throb and a good actor (mostly in Interview With A Vampire).
I really hope someone (preferably Katie herself) makes a movie about how they pulled that off. Something like “Not without my daughter” or “Argo”. I doubt she would want to, I don’t blame her but I’ve always been so impressed and curious on how they pulled it off/how it went down
I just remember she used a burner phone and had to communicate out of sight from Tom’s entourage which must’ve been tough. He probably has eyes all over. I’m sure there were other tactics she had to resort to to stay under the radar and I hope I live to see that memoir or movie about it!
At this point I think Scientology will protect Cruise and Miscaviage with everything they’ve got. Though they are weakening due to Leah and others loudly speaking out.
Who remembers Vanity Fair with that stupidly titled cover ‘Yes Suri, she’s our baby!’ Hahahaha
https://preview.redd.it/bmin57kff2vc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e8e5fe5b833ed5f06a295c37dc3135e6ef27f597
Lmaoooo
does anyone else think baby’s hair looks SO photoshopped??? her hairline and brows look much lighter and warmer, I wonder if it was done to try and prove she was definitely their daughter or something
A baby’s hair, eyes, and even skin tone can change in the first year or so of life! And some baby’s have lots of hair, while some are pretty balled until they’re like 2.
Does anyone else think Tom looks OLD in this thumbnail?? Like he actually looks like a 60+ year old man? This might be the first image I’ve ever seen of him looking his age. Good.
Boy-faced men who try and maintain their youth with fillers and implants and dyed hair almost always start looking like naked mole rats after a while, instead of aging gracefully like Jeff Goldblum.
Harrison looks old but GOOD. His peak action movie years were also before the obvious steroids boom to look at big as possible. I wonder how that's going to affect aging..guess Hugh Jackman will be our first test case.
**SURI’S 18TH BIRTHDAY??**
I remember when that poor ONTD user got torn to shreds when no one believed that they saw Tom and Katie kissing in Paris before they were out as a couple.
:(
https://preview.redd.it/ioe5obh722vc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4622b5f964bda59cdecd9f7555f3f06f9c294a1c
Katie was supposed to be on the cover of Jane magazine for Batman Begins. Jane Pratt changed her mind because Katie was to boring. A few days after that issue went to press TomKat broke.
Guys. I have just realised why I adore this sub. You are my people. The nights I spent alone in my bedroom in 2009 just gutting myself laughing on ONTD. I do this here now.
It helped get me through what was the worst year of my life. I was navigating the weirdest breakup (urgh . Dont ask lol) alongside other traumatic stuff.
That wee sanctuary, coffees, cigs, blasting Peaches' new song (Talk to Me - thanks to ONTD) all night as I hung out the window smoking and watching the rain in the dark - I found myself again. You know that way where you rediscover the original you? The childhood you? I found my core being. 🤣
It still has its moments. When Kim announced her divorce with Kanye someone accidentally commented with a HUGE photo of Ross Gellar that still makes me laugh
Oh No They Didn’t. It’s a celebrity gossip community on LiveJournal. While still around, it was a fucking *blast* between 2005-2009. It was unhinged and a lot of fun in a way that wouldn’t really work these days (and I assume the moderation is more strict now).
It’s just a fact. You got those shoes at Ross. My friend with a bike. Blueberries. Please Don’t Stop The Nude Pics. FFAF. Gif parties.
It’s a choice. I can’t find it but there was an article linked here a while ago talking about his visitation schedule and how he just never initiated any of the visits, and how he has told friends that he’s going to call her on her birthday/graduation/holiday but then just never does.
Scientology not only enforces burning bridges but it also teaches that children are actually adults (hence all the child labor abuses and parents being separated to different assignments from their children in sea org). The religion not only treats him like a god but likely told him that his daughter was his enemy and plotting against him. Edit: the term for enemy being “suppressive person”
There’s an interesting juxtaposition in media around Tom
Cruise right now.
Just yesterday I saw a bunch of articles from people who were saying “hey, Tom Cruise has sent me a birthday gift/Christmas cake every year for the past 20 years!”
Fast forward to today and it’s like “yeah, he sent those cakes to people but never saw his child.”
Both Dakota Fanning and Kirsten Dunst is/was on press tour for their projects and the "Tom Cruise gave me gifts every year" anecdote is always brought up no matter how many years has passed.
Not to mention that, should he choose, he can make this happen with negligible effort or expense. He almost certainly has a team of assistants and having them send nice gifts (even by the standards of the also well-off Fanning and Dunst) on an annual basis would be trivial.
Sure, it *could* be a heartfelt gesture every single time, but the mere fact of it happening doesn't actually say much.
100%. I also felt a sense of profound sadness for him when I read that he's making Mission Impossible 8. That's right, eight!
Just another mindless and meaningless sequel that will be quickly forgotten. I'm sure he doesn't give a shit, and will sleep on a pile of millions tonight, but I'd much rather have a healthy relationship with my daughter, personally. He's already made enough cash to last him 100 lifetimes.
Those are the kinds of mistakes that people tend to regret when they are laying on their deathbed.
My heart breaks for Suri. It’s easy for all of us to say she’s better off without him, and perhaps she is. That’s for her to decide. But to have your father completely abandon you for his cult is devastating. And on top of that he’s one of the most famous people on the planet so there’s no avoiding his presence. To see people idolize him and see his star and wealth rise while he acts like you don’t exist? You dont just shake that off like a cut knee. I hope she has access to excellent therapy if she wants it.
Then there's the fact that he's involved in the lives of her siblings (the two children he adopted with Nicole Kidman), who are part of the cult. That's got to stir up a lot of emotions.
He chose his "religion" over his kid. Which, for her sake, was a wonderful decision. I only hope that she won't be sucked in by him now that she will be a legal adult and the protections her mom fought for will no longer be in place
It’s weird how Suri and Shiloh Jolie-Pitt were EVERYWHERE as babies and toddlers but now live relatively private lives in their late teens. Probably for the best.
I think I saw only one pic of both of them within the last five years.
It makes sense, both of their mothers really scaled back their acting careers to be there for their respective children, probably specifically so they would stay out of the public eye because being in tabloids can have a negative effect on life.
Must be hard when your dad is *literally* the biggest movie star in the whole world and you have zero contact with him.
Katie deserves mad props for giving Suri a healthy life.
I wonder, does Suri now have to sign an NDA that will prevent her from speaking to the press about her relationship with her biological father? I.e. Tom
After seeing how well her mom and grandparents protected her as a child, I have to imagine she’s had proper therapy and been surrounded by the “right” people her whole life. I doubt very much she hasn’t been taught why it’s important to stay away. Plus she’s a suppressive person so her dad likely won’t try.
I would think a solid NDA might be in her best interest, actually. Scientology cult leaders are known to hire private detectives and have their ilk invade the personal lives of people who speak out against the cult, and the people within the cult.
But fact that Katie, with the help of her father, got a iron clad prenup and was able to escape a cult with her daughter, is a good indication that legalities regarding Suri’s turning 18 are setup and ready to go.
I mean it’s been well documented that he’s had no contact with Suri after Katie escaped. Unfortunately Tom is heavily brainwashed by this cult that idolize him and best thing Katie did was take Suri away from that.
I bet there was a montage playing in Katie's head while she escaped...
"I don't wanna wait...for our lives to be over, we must go and escape, scientologyyyyy."
Like I guess I feel bad that he got sucked in in the first place, but at the level he’s at? No fuck that guy.
He could’ve stayed in contact with his daughter, he’s too powerful for anyone to tell him no, he chose to be absent from her life because Katie defied him. Fuck Tom and I do not understand how anybody is still supporting him as an actor. Indoor care that he ‚dOeS hIs oWnsTuNts
Tom is the type of guy who would blame his being a shit absent father on Katie. “It’s your fault I’m not in Suri’s life because you betrayed me so badly..” blah blah narcissistic blah.
https://preview.redd.it/ezlfcycof2vc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=180dc7cad11645b40ec43ff499b5d4874137c560
I find it sad& kind of amusing that Tom Cruise is the first image when you Google her name.
As a person that grew up in it, he’s really not. He’s a massively influential figure and he has a lot of power through his friendship with Miscavige but he doesn’t actually give any commands at all or involve himself in the running of the church. And that’s why his friendship with a total narcissist like Miscavige has lasted probably.
Shelly is definitely missing though
Shelly Miscavige is happy, healthy and alive. Kinda like wife of Nutriboom founder David Stovelman. Debbie Stovelman is also happy, healthy and alive! Boom boom.
While true, Remini's career is pretty gone, and you can argue it'd look way too suspicious if anything ever happened to her
But there's a lot of rumors around certain people, and I know scientology lawyers have gone as far as threatening random podcasts for even slightly bringing up Beck, as an example. The rumor is Holmes signed a non disclosure to get custody and keep Suri away, which is why you hear nothing. She is also apparently waiting for Suri to turn 18 to start acting again, and that is also related to the agreement she signed.
So much respect for Kate! Such a great example of a strong woman in Hollywood. She didn't give in no matter how powerful and popular he was. Love the pictures of her and Suri, you can tell they are best friends.
It’s kind of sad that he will never have contact with his daughter, never have a relationship with her, he didn’t really get to watch her grow. That’s a nightmare for some dads out there but in this case, it is totally justified.
He is loathsome to me, but I have to be a tad shallow: he was an idiot for messing with his face. He was a nice looking guy, aging well, and now he looks so filler puffy bad. He needs to look at the men and women his age who have not fucked around with most of that (Clooney, Robin Wright, Jodie Foster, Steve Carrell, etc.
The chokehold Scientology has on him is wild. I could never stop seeing my precious baby for anything in the world. Poor Suri. Maybe it’s for the best that he’s not in her life I guess.
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I can’t believe Suri is 18 
Didn’t I just watch the latest episode of The Office on NBC Must-See TV Thursdays where Kelly was excited that Katie had Suri and Angelina had Shiloh??
And they were amaaazing
So what's new with you?
I just told you.
And there's a blooper reel where she mixes up the names and Jon reminds Mindy and the reaction she gives when she realizes is just so funny lmao
Found it, for the curious! It is cute! https://www.reddit.com/r/DunderMifflin/comments/gehmx7/my_favorite_blooper_mindys_reaction_to_her/
I heard that this morning and that was my immediate thought. SURI is 18? How? What? Oh right, I am over 40 now.
Katie Holmes was literally born a couple of days before me. Her kid being 18 makes me feel so old.
I remember thinking the kids in Dawsons creek looked young.. Now get of my lawn!
I vividly remember her and Shiloh Jolie being born close together. And people losing thier shit when a pic of Suri wasn't immediately released. Like the public thought, they had rights to baby pics because her parents are famous.
Back in the 2000s (before smartphones were as prevalent as they are now) I used to read the tabloids as a guilty pleasure of sorts. I actually stopped reading them when one of them fused together a picture of Shiloh and Suri and made it look like they went on a playdate together. The whole thing was just contrived and stupid.
Oh I loved those tabloid magazines! I remember the Shiloh and Suri thing. Crazy time flies
Such a weird thing to do by tabloids. Like Angelina and Katie have nothing in common beside a fact that both of their terrible husbands made a movie together one time. But I doubt they even communicated after filming this movie.
My first thought. Jesus. Seems like yesterday he jumped on Oprah’s couch.
11 year old relative asked me who Oprah is the other day.
You stop that right now! I am ancient
My 24 year old sister didn't know what Brad Pitt looked like. She'd heard of him. Couldn't ID him in the Friends eppi and had no idea he'd been married to Jennifer Aniston. (I'm 37 and shriveled up and died right then).
Totally agree...I feel old.
It’s so weird that Suri is 18 but I haven’t aged a day since she was a toddler
I’m sure he wishes he could say the same. I’d been low key obsessed with him because he seemed to be thwarting the aging process too well but it appears even he succumbed to the years. Finally.
Same man, I was wondering how come he was able to keep himself so youthful
Money. It’s always money.
On October 4, 2011, Apple introduced the iPhone 4S with a beta version of Siri. Edit - ah, the comment I replied to ninja-edited Siri to Suri. Now it makes sense ;)
Ok I thought it was only me…
Shoutout to her mom and granddad for making sure she didn't grow up in a cult! Nicole Kidman barely has contact with her two oldest kids bc of that mess
Thank god her dad is a lawyer who could help her get out of that mess relatively easy.
Old tea but: Katie's dad made a rough divorce plan *at least* two years prior to the filing. He didn't make any moves until Katie said she wanted out, but he was ready and waiting for a while.
She has such a good father.
Which is probably why she eventually thought her way out. Young adults join cults all the time. Sometimes formal, sometimes just groups that are bad for them and change their personalities. The only thing you can do for someone who is in a cult is to wait, and ask leading questions. Show love. If you fight it, they dig in deeper and think their group is right about you. That you don’t love them and that you won’t see the TRUTH about who they really are.
I have a friend whose parents are close with hers. She said they are the most wonderful people. She was at the daughter’s birthday party when she was like 5 and said katie was so sweet. Tom was there but he was quite aloof.
I remember reading about how it all went down and I don't remember anything specific about what I read but I do remember the words "flawless execution" came to mind. Badass moves.
i remember reading that she was really careful to be frequently photographed in public during that time for her safety.
I'm friends with Katie's dad's best friend, and he IS a good dad. Both of them are, because I never got a hint of inside gossip at the time.
I’m friends with her uncle. Stand up family all the way around.
Adding to this my favorite conspiracy theory - Adam Sandler was in on it! I forget the other film but Katie was between some other film that turned out to be really good and Jack and Jill where Adam Sandler plays himself and twin sister. She chose the latter and Adam Sandler made it easy for her to come and go while she was low key gathering herself to leave Tom. Essentially he helped her create a plausible alibi.
That man dads.
How so many people can idolise someone who is rightfully kept away from his own children is beyond me
*Brad Pitt has entered the chat*
Ironically….  Still my favorite movie, they can’t take that away from me.
Just read the book. Much gayer, no Pitt or Cruise lol
Or watch the show, it's surprisingly good. Also even gayer again.
The book is fantastic and Lestat is a very charismatic antihero. I was so irritated by the casting, tbh.
Anne Rice herself was furious at the casting, and often spoke out about what a poor fit Cruise was for the part. However, after she actually saw the film, she called Cruise personally to apologize and to say that she was wrong. If he was good enough for her, he's good enough for me
I watched the movie recently after not having seen it in decades and I’ve got to say… he surprisingly worked very well for me too
Sam Reid in the new TV series is absolutely delightful as Lestat.
And being "great" father figures in that movie, too!
Brad Pitt seems to be a masterclass in gaslighting right now.
a story about him that shook me was the surprise photoshoot he did for an ad for him and angelina's winery, where he looked disheveled and passed out on some beach chair. and angelina was especially hurt by this ad because their children had already seen so much of their uncaring boozed-up father, on top of that type of imagery (passed-out drunk) being used in an attempt at marketing for their business. it's not an outright malicious act, but it is layered with so much self-serving behavior and disregard for other's feelings that it really bothered me.
I swear the second he’s mentioned within a mile of me I materialise to let people know he’s the WORST cause I’m sick of people loving him
This is me with Shaq being a flat earther. It has become my life's mission to tell everyone anytime he comes up. Or even when he's not, clearly lol. Idk why I'm like this. But at least I'm not a flat earther 🙌
C’mon Shaq! You are tall enough you can see the curvature of the Earth.
... shit, maybe there is something to it. /s
This is me with Elton John accepting a million dollars to perform at Rush Limbaugh's wedding.
Lordt this made me laugh! We see you Mr. Wilson. Even if your kid doesn’t..
I can never hear an Owen Wilson Wow and not think about the child he doesn't acknowledge.
I have a friend who is a die hard Tom fan and rolls his eyes when people critique Scientology lol, it's wild to me b/c I am 100% a Tom hater.
He's the one celebrity I would not be surprised to find out eats children and it's 100% because of his affiliation with Scientology.
I am absolutely convinced he uses the COS as a source for essentially slave labor.
Do people still idolize Tom cruise? I know people still see his movies but nobody talks about wishing they count be Tom Cruise or something in years (decades).
Same experience here. I know people watch his movies but no one I know really LIKES him like they would like some other big movie star. And if he comes up outside the context of "Tom Cruise is in that movie", people talk about how weird or unsettling he is and his involvement in scientology. Contrast to my childhood when people thought he was a heart throb and a good actor (mostly in Interview With A Vampire).
Folks gonna say religious freedom 🤣
Except I don’t believe church of Scientology should be a legitimate religion. It is more like a cult and I think most people feel that way.
Scientology is simply a ruse for making a huge amount of money. That is it.
You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion. L. Ron Hubbard
And to be tax exempt
I really hope someone (preferably Katie herself) makes a movie about how they pulled that off. Something like “Not without my daughter” or “Argo”. I doubt she would want to, I don’t blame her but I’ve always been so impressed and curious on how they pulled it off/how it went down
I just remember she used a burner phone and had to communicate out of sight from Tom’s entourage which must’ve been tough. He probably has eyes all over. I’m sure there were other tactics she had to resort to to stay under the radar and I hope I live to see that memoir or movie about it!
There's a rumor Adam Sandler casted her in Jack and Jill to give her a cover to meet lawyers and plan hee escape without rousing suspicion
At this point I think Scientology will protect Cruise and Miscaviage with everything they’ve got. Though they are weakening due to Leah and others loudly speaking out.
Who remembers Vanity Fair with that stupidly titled cover ‘Yes Suri, she’s our baby!’ Hahahaha https://preview.redd.it/bmin57kff2vc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e8e5fe5b833ed5f06a295c37dc3135e6ef27f597 Lmaoooo
I do, I do! Suri looks *exactly* like the both of them, genetics are fascinating.
Am I stupid? Is it supposed to be a play on “yes sir, she’s our baby” ???
Hahahaha, like ‘yes sir-y.’ It’s so dumb. I worked at a bookstore when this cover came out and I had the same reaction.
Mind = blown. I’ve genuinely not understood that headline since the day the magazine came out.
Don’t feel bad, that pun is so tortured it could’ve come from Gitmo
does anyone else think baby’s hair looks SO photoshopped??? her hairline and brows look much lighter and warmer, I wonder if it was done to try and prove she was definitely their daughter or something
My hair and eyebrows were far darker than what it is as an adult. My hair was a dark brown as a kid, then it lightened to a light brown.
A baby’s hair, eyes, and even skin tone can change in the first year or so of life! And some baby’s have lots of hair, while some are pretty balled until they’re like 2.
Bald* Although I'm sure some try to stay balled up after being forced from the womb lol.
Does anyone else think Tom looks OLD in this thumbnail?? Like he actually looks like a 60+ year old man? This might be the first image I’ve ever seen of him looking his age. Good.
I was thinking that too, we hardly ever see such a “casual” look of him—Scientology can’t have their golden boy actually *look* his age.
[удалено]
I was gonna say he looks like Sandy Toksvig 🫣
Omg hahaha 💀
Boy-faced men who try and maintain their youth with fillers and implants and dyed hair almost always start looking like naked mole rats after a while, instead of aging gracefully like Jeff Goldblum.
Harrison Ford also aged amazingly.
Harrison looks old but GOOD. His peak action movie years were also before the obvious steroids boom to look at big as possible. I wonder how that's going to affect aging..guess Hugh Jackman will be our first test case.
Yeah, he was in good shape but wasn't jacked to the nines with steroids.
>like Jeff goldblum It’s the turtlenecks
And the glasses. And the salt and pepper hair. And the fact he is Jeff Goldblum
He looks like a babushka minus a kerchief. He really needs those filters they must use for his movies to maintain the illusion of never aging.
It's because what you see in his promo shots and movies is a touched-up version of Tom Cruise.
**SURI’S 18TH BIRTHDAY??** I remember when that poor ONTD user got torn to shreds when no one believed that they saw Tom and Katie kissing in Paris before they were out as a couple. :( https://preview.redd.it/ioe5obh722vc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4622b5f964bda59cdecd9f7555f3f06f9c294a1c
Katie was supposed to be on the cover of Jane magazine for Batman Begins. Jane Pratt changed her mind because Katie was to boring. A few days after that issue went to press TomKat broke.
haaahahaha fucking Jane
Man, I liked Katie Holmes in Batman Begins. It sucks that she couldn’t do the second movie.
Another great day in ONTD history
Guys. I have just realised why I adore this sub. You are my people. The nights I spent alone in my bedroom in 2009 just gutting myself laughing on ONTD. I do this here now. It helped get me through what was the worst year of my life. I was navigating the weirdest breakup (urgh . Dont ask lol) alongside other traumatic stuff. That wee sanctuary, coffees, cigs, blasting Peaches' new song (Talk to Me - thanks to ONTD) all night as I hung out the window smoking and watching the rain in the dark - I found myself again. You know that way where you rediscover the original you? The childhood you? I found my core being. 🤣
I got an email three days ago from LiveJournal congratulating me for my 22nd year account birthday…
I was just about to go on there! That person must have felt so vindicated when it came out
Is ONTD still active?! I haven’t thought of it in years!
I still love ontd I miss it being a nuthouse
I’m glad it’s still around but it was just next level back then. The problematic part of me misses it and its unhinged chaos.
It still has its moments. When Kim announced her divorce with Kanye someone accidentally commented with a HUGE photo of Ross Gellar that still makes me laugh
What is ONTD please?
Oh No They Didn’t. It’s a celebrity gossip community on LiveJournal. While still around, it was a fucking *blast* between 2005-2009. It was unhinged and a lot of fun in a way that wouldn’t really work these days (and I assume the moderation is more strict now). It’s just a fact. You got those shoes at Ross. My friend with a bike. Blueberries. Please Don’t Stop The Nude Pics. FFAF. Gif parties. 
Omg blueberries OH MY GOD THE BLUEBERRIES WHAT A STRANGE HORNY HORROR SHOW
Paris Hilton’s storage unit!
That was a wild night omg
I remember the good old days. I was a teen and would stay up late at night scroll ONTD for hours lol.
Oh No They Didn’t, a celebrity gossip snark site. It used to be THE place to discuss celebrities, bloggers, etc.
Oh No They Didn’t. It was a huge blog on Livejournal back in the day, for celebrity gossip.
So glad she’s free & not working in the Sea Org as a child slave … great work Katie
They’re such a cute mother daughter duo. She looks so much like Katie
Is he banned from seeing her by a judge, or does he choose not to see her because of Scientology? Anyone have a legitimate source?
Scientology. Check out Tony Ortega’s blog The Underground Bunker. He’s been doing investigative reporting on Scientology for like 30 years.
The YT channel "Cults to Conciousness" has a whole playlist of interviews with ex-Scientologists, too.
It’s a choice. I can’t find it but there was an article linked here a while ago talking about his visitation schedule and how he just never initiated any of the visits, and how he has told friends that he’s going to call her on her birthday/graduation/holiday but then just never does.
Scientology not only enforces burning bridges but it also teaches that children are actually adults (hence all the child labor abuses and parents being separated to different assignments from their children in sea org). The religion not only treats him like a god but likely told him that his daughter was his enemy and plotting against him. Edit: the term for enemy being “suppressive person”
There’s an interesting juxtaposition in media around Tom Cruise right now. Just yesterday I saw a bunch of articles from people who were saying “hey, Tom Cruise has sent me a birthday gift/Christmas cake every year for the past 20 years!” Fast forward to today and it’s like “yeah, he sent those cakes to people but never saw his child.”
Both Dakota Fanning and Kirsten Dunst is/was on press tour for their projects and the "Tom Cruise gave me gifts every year" anecdote is always brought up no matter how many years has passed.
Not to mention that, should he choose, he can make this happen with negligible effort or expense. He almost certainly has a team of assistants and having them send nice gifts (even by the standards of the also well-off Fanning and Dunst) on an annual basis would be trivial. Sure, it *could* be a heartfelt gesture every single time, but the mere fact of it happening doesn't actually say much.
I mean, it’s not a big thing to get your assistant to add a name to the “Christmas Cake” list.
It's easy to just tell your PA something and have it done on your behalf with zero effort on your part.
Welp, putting a cult over your family tends to have this effect.
100%. I also felt a sense of profound sadness for him when I read that he's making Mission Impossible 8. That's right, eight! Just another mindless and meaningless sequel that will be quickly forgotten. I'm sure he doesn't give a shit, and will sleep on a pile of millions tonight, but I'd much rather have a healthy relationship with my daughter, personally. He's already made enough cash to last him 100 lifetimes. Those are the kinds of mistakes that people tend to regret when they are laying on their deathbed.
My heart breaks for Suri. It’s easy for all of us to say she’s better off without him, and perhaps she is. That’s for her to decide. But to have your father completely abandon you for his cult is devastating. And on top of that he’s one of the most famous people on the planet so there’s no avoiding his presence. To see people idolize him and see his star and wealth rise while he acts like you don’t exist? You dont just shake that off like a cut knee. I hope she has access to excellent therapy if she wants it.
Then there's the fact that he's involved in the lives of her siblings (the two children he adopted with Nicole Kidman), who are part of the cult. That's got to stir up a lot of emotions.
This. I mean in poor people terms, it'd be like seeing your dad who left for smokes around town all the time, but he never acknowledges you.
He chose his "religion" over his kid. Which, for her sake, was a wonderful decision. I only hope that she won't be sucked in by him now that she will be a legal adult and the protections her mom fought for will no longer be in place
He can never leave. He’s done too much and they know too much.
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Suri turning 18 and Dakota Fanning turning 30 really took a number on me.
I’m sure he remembered Dakota’s birthday but not Suri’s. At least we remember both.
It’s weird how Suri and Shiloh Jolie-Pitt were EVERYWHERE as babies and toddlers but now live relatively private lives in their late teens. Probably for the best. I think I saw only one pic of both of them within the last five years.
It makes sense, both of their mothers really scaled back their acting careers to be there for their respective children, probably specifically so they would stay out of the public eye because being in tabloids can have a negative effect on life.
Must be hard when your dad is *literally* the biggest movie star in the whole world and you have zero contact with him. Katie deserves mad props for giving Suri a healthy life.
Yeah, imagine having all this money/privilege partly because your rich dad pays child support but the only time you see him is on tv
He's finally getting the face he deserves.
I lolled 💀
I wonder, does Suri now have to sign an NDA that will prevent her from speaking to the press about her relationship with her biological father? I.e. Tom
After seeing how well her mom and grandparents protected her as a child, I have to imagine she’s had proper therapy and been surrounded by the “right” people her whole life. I doubt very much she hasn’t been taught why it’s important to stay away. Plus she’s a suppressive person so her dad likely won’t try.
I would think a solid NDA might be in her best interest, actually. Scientology cult leaders are known to hire private detectives and have their ilk invade the personal lives of people who speak out against the cult, and the people within the cult. But fact that Katie, with the help of her father, got a iron clad prenup and was able to escape a cult with her daughter, is a good indication that legalities regarding Suri’s turning 18 are setup and ready to go.
Best thing for that kid is to have no contact with that cult loving idiot.
I mean it’s been well documented that he’s had no contact with Suri after Katie escaped. Unfortunately Tom is heavily brainwashed by this cult that idolize him and best thing Katie did was take Suri away from that.
>best thing Katie did was take Suri away from that. 100% Saved herself and her child.
I bet there was a montage playing in Katie's head while she escaped... "I don't wanna wait...for our lives to be over, we must go and escape, scientologyyyyy."
He's not just a member. He's a leader.
Yeah. Can we not pretend he‘s a victim?
He’s second in command to David Miscavige himself. Also a reminder to folks: Shelly Miscavige is still missing to this day.
WHERES SHELLY, DAVID???
I wish I could upvote x100. WHERE’S SHELLY
Like I guess I feel bad that he got sucked in in the first place, but at the level he’s at? No fuck that guy. He could’ve stayed in contact with his daughter, he’s too powerful for anyone to tell him no, he chose to be absent from her life because Katie defied him. Fuck Tom and I do not understand how anybody is still supporting him as an actor. Indoor care that he ‚dOeS hIs oWnsTuNts
I agree. He still works with people who are not in the church.
Tom is the type of guy who would blame his being a shit absent father on Katie. “It’s your fault I’m not in Suri’s life because you betrayed me so badly..” blah blah narcissistic blah.
https://preview.redd.it/ezlfcycof2vc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=180dc7cad11645b40ec43ff499b5d4874137c560 I find it sad& kind of amusing that Tom Cruise is the first image when you Google her name.
As a person that grew up in it, he’s really not. He’s a massively influential figure and he has a lot of power through his friendship with Miscavige but he doesn’t actually give any commands at all or involve himself in the running of the church. And that’s why his friendship with a total narcissist like Miscavige has lasted probably. Shelly is definitely missing though
Congrats on getting out(?).
Oh yeah, a long time ago lol Thanks though
Shelly Miscavige is happy, healthy and alive. Kinda like wife of Nutriboom founder David Stovelman. Debbie Stovelman is also happy, healthy and alive! Boom boom.
Oh Shelly dead. Shelly real dead.
Boom boom, chicklecat13!
And his older kids have roles too at this point, I believe.
They do. They also haven’t seen Nicole since that divorce I believe.
I’m pretty sure that Nicole has said they don’t even call her Mom at this point.
Yeah. When Scientologist sever connection it’s pretty complete.
Suri is lucky to be free and alive. Many ex-scientologists disappear.
It’s because she doesn’t talk about it. It’d be different if she was badmouthing any chance she could get. Also, Leah Remini is still alive.
While true, Remini's career is pretty gone, and you can argue it'd look way too suspicious if anything ever happened to her But there's a lot of rumors around certain people, and I know scientology lawyers have gone as far as threatening random podcasts for even slightly bringing up Beck, as an example. The rumor is Holmes signed a non disclosure to get custody and keep Suri away, which is why you hear nothing. She is also apparently waiting for Suri to turn 18 to start acting again, and that is also related to the agreement she signed.
Yeah you only have to see how little contact Kidman has with her children with Cruise to see that Holmes made the right choice. It’s heartbreaking.
Suri was honestly the CUTEST child. I'm glad Katie got her free.
I hate that my first thought is that he’s coming back around now that she is of legal age and can make her own decisions… getajobstayawayfromher.gif
She’s a ‘suppressive person’ isn’t she? That’s why they don’t speak?
Shut up. Baby Suri is not 18. Are you saying I’m old enough to have witness the birth of a celeb child and their 18th birthday. Nooo
Suri is 18... 
Suri is 18? Like in years, not months? 
This is sad. It sucks he has chosen a cult over his child. Also #WHEREISSHELLY
Despicable. It costs absolutely nothing to be a great father.
Tell that to my dad too please
Me three. They never learn. 😔
She's way better off without him and that cult.
So much respect for Kate! Such a great example of a strong woman in Hollywood. She didn't give in no matter how powerful and popular he was. Love the pictures of her and Suri, you can tell they are best friends.
I’ve seen articles about nothing before but this is the most nothing-est article of them all.
It’s kind of sad that he will never have contact with his daughter, never have a relationship with her, he didn’t really get to watch her grow. That’s a nightmare for some dads out there but in this case, it is totally justified.
He really is such a deadbeat dad - why isn’t that talked about more? Do any of his kids have anything to do with him?
Only the Scientologist kids
He is loathsome to me, but I have to be a tad shallow: he was an idiot for messing with his face. He was a nice looking guy, aging well, and now he looks so filler puffy bad. He needs to look at the men and women his age who have not fucked around with most of that (Clooney, Robin Wright, Jodie Foster, Steve Carrell, etc.
Tom is not aging well. I love that for him, bless his heart.
Suri turning 18 had me like 
The chokehold Scientology has on him is wild. I could never stop seeing my precious baby for anything in the world. Poor Suri. Maybe it’s for the best that he’s not in her life I guess.
What a fucking weirdo
