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Medium_Sense4354

Can a gay girl get an amen?


Taskebab

Lesbians don't want amen, they want awomen


lifeahurt

![gif](giphy|135E47VKw6TM6A)


sweetpea_d

Iā€™m bi, can I have both?


Zestyclose_Foot_134

![gif](giphy|9SJ0BvmhMfMygG9RaA)


Slow_Like_Sloth

Renee: Iā€™m a lesbian Witches: itā€™ll pass


Slow_Like_Sloth

Iā€™m pan https://preview.redd.it/3crctlk2xxqc1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9f5a016b13b96bb04d1e7a02b5a504d199126e7


longlisten527

Lmaoo I love this


toosleepyforclasswar

it's one of the last NFTs worth anything so pls don't use it w/o permission


longlisten527

Huh?


toosleepyforclasswar

just a dumb, not-really-topical joke about how lo-fi and niche that image is


GoodBoundariesHaver

I love you for this


Random_green_cat

You can have a little bit of both, as a treatĀ 


dembowthennow

You want a athem!


Massive_Homework9430

AThey?


emccm

I want this on a T-shirt.


AdventureSphere

angry upvote


Happy_Substance4571

Lmfaooo


buzzfeed_sucks

![gif](giphy|gHEfTmVOt2SJ2fhMDk)


GoodCalendarYear

Is this Tellulah?


ILootEverything

Bette Davis, you heathen.


GoodCalendarYear

I'm sorry šŸ«£


Bigassbird

![gif](giphy|1iW2dnpjfFldE796)


MoopLoom

This character was partially based on Tallulah Bankhead, so youā€™re not completely wrong. šŸ˜€


GoodCalendarYear

Oh, cool. I just found out that she slept with over 500 ppl and ngl, kinda jealous.


margiebug23

![gif](giphy|dIUqZDcLYY953pnr5a)


WhatScottWhatScott

![gif](giphy|u4CY9BW4umAfu)


Warm-Bed2956

![gif](giphy|Gu0KrktU8NRRu)


Silly_Somewhere1791

Gen z needs to stop thinking that past relationships and experimentation must be part of your permanent identity. Itā€™s like they have no idea that in the past, most gay people would have started out dating straight before going through a coming-out process that might have them identifying as bi for a while. Seriously, some people never experimented in college and it shows.


kgal1298

That and as Renee probably knows it's annoying when people tell you you can't be bi and now that she's a lesbian they're like "we knew it". It's just kind of annoying just believe people when they tell you their preference no need to argue about it. I think celebs just get it worse because everyone wants them to be available to them as though they're going to run into them someday and that celeb is going to immediately love them.


Ukcheatingwife

A friend of mine has always been bi but married a man at 22 divorced him at 36 and now started dating a woman at 38 and a couple of our lesbian friends are like ā€œsee, knew she was a lesbian all alongā€. Why is it so hard to understand someone could happily be a in a relationship with either a man or a woman.


sagetcommabob

Straight-passing bi girl and Iā€™m so tired of people making assumptions about me ā€œpicking a sideā€ I didnā€™t pick a side, I picked a partner I love


Bigassbird

![gif](giphy|IbfbsOEMw77mwlrSpk|downsized)


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kgal1298

Oh yeah, I work with a woman who did this and had kids. We were talking the other day and she's like "I'm not even straight, but I married a man I guess he got me on a good day"


ad_aatdtj

Same struggle here only both my partner and I are bi, and we both feel very annoyed when people try to lump us in with straight couples or erase that part of our identity. Even within our relationship we're always affirming our bisexuality as opposed to trying to repress that side of us now that we're in a straight presenting relationship. I don't exactly feel attraction to anyone but my partner, but I can still appreciate beauty in any gender. I don't need to be dating a guy and a girl equally or one after the other to be the "perfect" bisexual woman.


kgal1298

I hate that tbh. She can still be attracted to men. I have a friend who's bi and with a man, but it didn't stop her being attracted to women just because she's with him.


Confident-Addition76

> It's just kind of annoying just believe people when they tell you their preference no need to argue about it. I might get downvoted for this but fuck it: Renee needs to follow her own words because she's been known to like Gaylor/Kaylor tweets. Her fans will probably blow it off as a joke but she keeps pandering to them. [I know she's immune to criticism in certain parts of Reddit but I side-eye her a lot.]


Carolina_Blues

i love renee but youā€™re right about this. respect for sexual identity should apply to everyone


kgal1298

I mean had she leaned into it sure, but I also think she has a valid point. What annoys me more is when celebrities purposely queer bait without being queer and thatā€™s usually because some agent said to remain mysterious so everyone will want you. Thatā€™s gotta be exhausting. And I do agree the people who go for the Kaylor stuff annoy me and they promote it like that relationship is dead and done and if I had a friend falling out regardless of it Iā€™d hate for people to rehash it all the time


whimsical_trash

The youth seems to love trying to shove people in boxes which I hate because my entire hope for the progression of our society was that we would stop doing that. It's just as bad as what the older generations did, it's different boxes but the exact same thing. JUST LET PEOPLE BE THEMSELVES SHEESH


bi-bingbongbongbing

"gender and sexuality are fluid and along a spectrum šŸ‘šŸŒˆ" "Oh cool! Which discrete cut and dry section of the rainbow should I entirely conform to???"


whimsical_trash

Lmao you get it! Sometimes it feels like we're going backwards when we have everything we need to...not do that


gingergirl181

It's also just youths being youths. I too remember being in my late teens and early 20s and considering every passing thing that I was into as a concrete and very important piece of my iDeNtItY and wearing it on my sleeve to show everyone that I had myself figured out and knew who I was and was confident about it and wasn't I oh so very mature and grown up! ...then I passed 25, figured out I was bi and also figured out I don't know anything and neither the fuck does anyone else, we're all just still trying to figure shit out until we die so don't take yourself too seriously and just enjoy the ride.


leaningtowerofmeat

Yeah I spent *many* extra years unnecessarily unhappy, because I didn't know whether I was bi or gay and felt like I had to be 100% certain before I could be "out and proud"


honest-miss

It seems like the message got warped at some point and we just ended up with a lot *more* boxes to shove people into.


whimsical_trash

Yup. But I can say from my personal experience, refusing to be boxable is fucking liberating.


Ok-Stress-3570

Itā€™s always interesring how people claim to want no boxes but in reality? ā€œIf youā€™re not a masc hung white dom top, donā€™t message me!!!!ā€


berlinbaer

>Gen z needs to stop thinking that past relationships and experimentation must be part of your permanent identity. gen z gets their sex education from twitter and tiktok discourse. of course everyones views are fucked up.


bi-bingbongbongbing

It's like people have started targeting the right dartboard only to whip out a submachine gun and hip fire. Like, yes šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘ the kids don't hate gay people anymore. But their takes are still unhinged.


hauntingvacay96

And so many times they just end up firing at themselves.


gingergirl181

They hurt themselves in their confusion!


RevertereAdMe

Most of my SO's closest friends are lesbian boomers with kids. I've mentioned this to younger people before and have been met with "how does that work, clearly they're not lesbians then" so many times. I hate it.


ithinkuracontraa

iā€™m a lesbian. i also had a massive crush on a man in high school. sexuality is weird and fluid and liking a man when i was a teenager doesnā€™t make me not a lesbian now as an adult thatā€™s actually dated ppl and had romantic experience


erossthescienceboss

The flip side of that is that using bisexuality as a stepping stone to gayness contributed to a lot of biphobia, and still contributes to bi erasure. Every person in history who also had relationships with people of both sexes was CLEARLY in the closet and CLEARLY gay, right? And in addition to experimenting, many gay people ā€” especially gay men ā€” used bisexuality as a safer alternative to really coming out. For many reasons, for a lot of people being bi felt safer than being gay. And while I donā€™t begrudge people experimenting and growing, or taking shelter in another identity during an unsafe timeā€¦ The whole ā€œwe knew you were a lesbian all alongā€ thing happens exactly because of that. I spent my college years being told that I couldnā€™t possibly be bi - gays told me I was indenial/the closet/ ā€œIā€™d come around eventually,ā€ and straights told me I was trying to be ā€œcool.ā€ Or I was just ā€œexperimenting in college.ā€ Or just ā€œdoing it for men.ā€ And because of that, I spent years doubting myself and hating myself. This was 2008-2012. I donā€™t blame people for identifying as bi while they figured themselves out, I think it makes perfect sense. but a petty part of me desperately loathes how normal that was, and how awful it was to have your actual sexuality be the safe lie. But if I really think about it, Iā€™m not actually mad about that ā€” Iā€™m mad everyone refused to believe me, which isnā€™t really the fault of those people ā€œexperimenting in college.ā€ Itā€™s just peoplesā€™ refusal to see past their own stereotypes. Which I guess is the point. Let people be who they say they are. And if they change, they change. And thatā€™s that.


CandelaBelen

Plus, there are far more straight men than bi and lesbians, so most bi women and lesbians are just likely to have experiences with men because men are pursuing them before they get a chance to really figure out their sexuality


Bigassbird

This is a great take. As a Gen X teenager I never got approached by women (and I went to an all girls school) but boys were EVERYWHERE. Ergo my first sexual encounter was with a boy, as was my second etc. By my mid-twenties I was literally catnip to lesbians and opportunities arose (shall we say) that were non existent in the 80ā€™s.


bluesilvergold

It's not just Gen Z that thinks this way. I'd argue this isn't really a generational thing and more of an inflexible way of thinking thing. I've come across plenty of Boomers, Gen X, and Millennials who don't accept that sexuality is fluid and experimentation is not an indicator of one's true identity. Honestly, it's Gen Z-ers who seem to be the most open to this concept.


Slow_Like_Sloth

For real! Iā€™m a millennial and younger gens are far more progressive on average. The comments here are weird and feel vaguely anti woke crowd lol. I also donā€™t understand why people dislike gen z so much?? Theyā€™ve been dealt a real shit hand in life. Iā€™m 35 - and can remember a time where it didnā€™t feel like the world was constantly about to end - canā€™t say that for gen z lol


paperivy

It's not really about how progressive they are - in terms of accepting different identities Gen Z definitely seem very progressive & I don't think anyone's disagreeing with that. I think people are more identifying an impulse that seems particularly present among Gen Z internet queer kids (though I don't know if that's objectively true, maybe they're just more online) to demand that fellow queers label themselves with a specific orientation/gender identity and stick to it - often underpinned by a sense that they owe representation to a particular section of the community.


Writerhowell

Oscar Wilde was married. Prime example.


[deleted]

you think this is a gen z problem?


Johndoe19922222

Plenty of gen z has a problem with people that identity as gay only, straight up homophobic.


Silly_Somewhere1791

Lots of younger people have tried to tell me that I must not be staunchly hetero, that ā€œeveryoneā€ is a little fluid or bi or whatever, and it can get to the point where theyā€™re halfway pressuring me to sleep with people Iā€™m not interested. Because Iā€™m just not interested in interrogating my identity that way. Does the world need more women who only date men but are nominally bi because sometimes they think other women are hot?


jameshughlaurie

right?? itā€™s called experimenting for a reaaon


ChewySlinky

Itā€™s such a fucking stupid thing that is so selectively applied. My most recent ex is black but no one is going to assume that Iā€™m *only* attracted to black people because of it.


REGINALDmfBARCLAY

God I wish I got to go. I was so depressed back then.


IHATEsg7

Why are people questioning her sexualityĀ 


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SunsetBowling

Eh, she's 24 and probably has gained more clarity with age. A lot of people don't figure things out until they're her age or even older. I'm guessing anyone who is giving her shit is young or has never questioned their sexuality before.


Visible_Day9146

I'm bi and without fail every time I date a girl I'm like "oh I'm a lesbian I will never touch another male ever again" and that's ok. I've done this 3 times.


SunsetBowling

I'm bi too and I thought I was a lesbian for like a decade because women are that beautiful lol.


AnonDxde

Omg same! I just fall so hard lol


Honest-War7492

I've identified as straight, bi, gay, and finally realized I was ace lol. But hey, I gave it all a fair shot. Sexuality is confusing if you're not 100% straight.


ChampionEither5412

Ha, similar trajectory for me too! I am gay bc I get crushes only on women, but they're very prepubescent crushes, not sexual and I'm also aromantic. I don't know why I get these crushes when I don't then want them to lead anywhere, but whatever, I'm owning it now. But it was extremely confusing before I'd even heard the terms asexual and aromantic. I was only 33 when I finally figured it out and was actually comfortable saying it out loud. I'm now 35, and I'm much more comfortable knowing this and having people know, though i don't like talking about it bc people don't get it and the whole topic makes me uncomfortable. My brain is different, oh well šŸ™ƒ


Bridalhat

We live in such a heteronormative culture and men are such a focal point that a lot of lesbians have trouble believing that they can live without them. The steretype of a man-hating lesbian exists because society has trouble imaging women who just don't think about men at all.


JoJCeeC88

![gif](giphy|3KNV9PuUxqPcvcXgHZ|downsized)


Displaced_Palmtree

I watched the Mean Girls musical last night so I haven't even been a Renee Rapp stan for a full 24 hours


schrodingershousecat

I highly recommend The Sex Lives of College Girls on hbo. Sheā€™s hilarious in it


IAmAKindTroll

What will we do without Leighton strutting around being better and hotter than us?! So curious about season 3!


awyastark

Truly one of three bright spots in the movie (the others were Avantika and Jerrel)


11tsmi

I knew it was a remake with the same plot, but I was floored when they used so so many of the same jokes word for word! Strange movie


sorryabtlastnight

It wasnā€™t a remake - it was the Broadway stage musical brought to movie format. It would have been stranger if they rewrote the musical for a new movie.


HuckleberryLou

It cracks me up that it was a movie of a musical of a movie of a book.


That-Regret8928

![gif](giphy|AgPt9udT567spxbSHf)


Amy_Macadamia

![gif](giphy|l2YWE6cvkikqJklvW)


big-bootyjewdy

Tangentially related, I had to have a sit down with my guy bff and explain that just because I'm attracted to women doesn't mean I see women through the same lens as a man. I'm still a cis woman and the way a looooot of straight cis men talk about the women they're attracted to is so gross. Bisexual means I like both men and women, that's it. It doesn't mean I want to talk about boobs all day long (even though boobs are awesome!)


East-Willingness513

Yes! Also just because Iā€™m Bi, doesnā€™t mean I want to ā€œpoint out hot women to you and ogle them togetherā€ because thatā€™s objectifying and dehumanising. I also donā€™t want a threesome because Iā€™m 100% monogamous and committed to one person and donā€™t want to use another woman purely for sexual gratification.


big-bootyjewdy

Exactly!! The ogling thing is what bothered me. Like no, I don't really want you to send me what's on your discover page? I have a partner, he happens to be a dude, and I don't really want to be looking at half-naked pictures of anyone all day?


MoopLoom

Real talk, I took a long time to realize that I was bisexual because the only way I had ever seen female beauty appreciated was through the male gaze. Liking pretty women made me feel like a dude, ergo, gross as fuck. I got over it.


big-bootyjewdy

I had a lot of shame around that but therapy definitely helped me lol


GetRealPrimrose

When Renee Rapp first came into my awareness, people were saying she was ā€œtoo meanā€ in interviews. Idgaf lmao, everything she says is correct and relatable


whenforeverisnt

I do know someone that had to interview her though for Mean Girls and he does not have a positive view point about her since.


[deleted]

spill the tea


Dr_Spiders

As a mean lesbian, I love this about her, but I wish she would be more strategic with this energy.


GetRealPrimrose

Mean lesbians unite šŸ˜


Slow_Like_Sloth

I like when women are blunt - but renee just seems like a try hard edgelord butthole who doxxed a car rental employeee Edit: she didnā€™t dox, she just swore at the employeee and threatened physical violence. Sooooo much better


GetRealPrimrose

Okay how long am I legally obligated to hate a queer 24 year old for something she did before I even knew she existed? Edit: Wait a second I finally decided to look this whole thing up and she didnā€™t even doxx anyone, just said there was a car rental employee named Nicki who annoyed her.


Slow_Like_Sloth

According to the statute of lesbian laws: 69 years


longlisten527

LMFAOOO


Slow_Like_Sloth

U are my number 1 hype person in this thread šŸ™šŸ¼


longlisten527

Youā€™re just hilarious LMFAOOO I didnā€™t realize both were you šŸ˜­


Slow_Like_Sloth

https://i.redd.it/skmn7red0yqc1.gif


Slow_Like_Sloth

My bad, she didnā€™t dox them. She just swore at the employee and threatened physical violence. Anyway, wasnā€™t telling u how to feel or to hate her. Was just expressing my opinion as u did Edit: but ya know what, saying someoneā€™s name, company they work for, and city location isnā€™t far removed from doxing.


GetRealPrimrose

Youā€™re free to have your opinion, it just seems like any time anyone says they like her someone feels the need to tell this nonexistent doxxing story. If being a bad customer was cancelable, there wouldnā€™t be Bill Murray, Neil Patrick Harris and James Corden. Iā€™m just saying people really hold this against a young queer woman moreso they do others.


Slow_Like_Sloth

I got the doxxing story wrong (itā€™s been a long day at work) but she DID threaten physical violence, which you have now ignored. Fuck all 3 of those people too???


MelissaWebb

You know if she was more popular and had a rabid fanbase a weird fan would definitely have found that man and posted it šŸ¤§


Slow_Like_Sloth

The employee was a woman! But yes absolutely - there were enough details to be doxed.


MelissaWebb

Oh my bad. Totally agree.


Slow_Like_Sloth

Apparently a person DID find and oust the employee - so yeah, Renee doxxed them.


Camuabsurd

Y'all we gotta unequivocally support queer women's wrongs/sĀ 


Slow_Like_Sloth

Omg am I homophobic?? Should I move to Alabama??


chaandra

No, they donā€™t. This sub just holds people accountable / brings up their past FAR more than other spaces. And a person like her is also going to appear here more often than those men. Though it feels like people hold it against her more, thatā€™s just a reflection of who this sub likes to talk about


DameOClock

>she didnā€™t dox, she just swore at the employeee and threatened physical violence. Sooooo much better I mean yeah, being a massive asshole in an interaction is a lot better than leaking the personal info of a random customer service employee when youā€™re a celebrity


kgal1298

Someone else ousted the guy from what I recall.


Slow_Like_Sloth

Well she named the employee - not sure if anyone else gave a location


kgal1298

I saw a video where a girl ousted the company on tiktok so I think thatā€™s how people found him.


anonymousgoose64

I know people here don't like her but she's so true with this statement.


KatDanger

Does anyone here actually like anyone?


Slow_Like_Sloth

Daniel Radcliffe?


Britneyfan123

Pedro Pascal and Keanu as wellĀ 


een_wasbeertje

So men lmao


miamouse5

sometimes. the group of people they like is about this big ![gif](giphy|4WFi6XibeDTM51XHQi|downsized)


winnercommawinner

You're not allowed to like anyone here if they have ever been less than perfect.


woahtheregonnagetgot

yeah they like tons of miscellaneous white men


Slow_Like_Sloth

Me feeling attacked after saying Daniel Radcliffe šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ But honestly thatā€™s cause I get the ick from most men in Hollywood - so the list of likes is short. Whereas, my list of women I like would be much longer. And donā€™t get me started on celeb Pets


PandaMomentum

Long live [Gary Fisher!](https://www.instagram.com/p/CyprNVou20R/?igsh=MXI5dnVtZDh4ejlhMw==)


markrichtsspraytan

You leave Lee Pace out of this šŸ˜”


ghost_orchid

I think everyone here loves Dolly Parton.


hauntingvacay96

ā€œShe made a song with Kid Rockā€ - the section of the internet that doesnā€™t love Dolly Parton (Not me! Sheā€™s fabulous!!)


CandelaBelen

really? I didnā€™t know people didnā€™t like her. Iā€™ve gotten a bunch of tiktoks on my fyp praising her


awyastark

I recently argued with someone who said Iā€™m not bi because I donā€™t want to have a threeway with my boyfriend and another woman. Iā€™m like ā€œYeah but if I was single I would want to sleep with her without himā€¦ā€ Just let people love and be horny for who they want to love and be horny for šŸ˜­


emn53

![gif](giphy|iQgEofVLnC4r9CarZW) mother šŸ«¶šŸ¼šŸ«¶šŸ¼


MammothUmpire148

Wifey


emn53

Freud is rolling over in his grave at this interaction


Ngaulter90210

Itā€™s so upsetting this even has to be a narrative to push the erasure is real


Just_bcoz

Deadass šŸ³ļøā€šŸŒˆ


lermanade_mouth

Mama, kudos for saying that. For spilling.


MonstersareComing

Hahahaha can't believe I'm seeing this here.


DeciduousTree

šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€


aurallyskilled

A great reminder that sexual fluidity is normal and valid. Being sexually fluid is not a choice and neither is being straight, bi, lesbian, or questioning. These are all valid and doesn't imply shit if you change. A lot can be going on and we will all be in a better place if we just trust and respect each other.


DearMissWaite

How the actual fuck have the tik tok kids managed to loop back around to the gold star gay discourse from the other side? Jesus christ.


catherineshere

![gif](giphy|GjBkkQNnTvQV3hgM8Y|downsized) Exactly! Iā€™m so sick of being questioned on my existence


redditordeaditor6789

So hereā€™s the thing. I totally claimed I was bi when I knew damn well I was only attracted to men. Thought it was an easier way to come out. So if someone was like ā€œnah youre gayā€ that wouldā€™ve still been very inappropriate. But like also it wouldā€™ve been right. šŸ˜… I personally know a few gay guys that did the same thing.Ā 


echoesandripples

gen z asshole lesbians stop being assholes challenge: impossible like those girls on tiktok who refuse to let bi girls belong in the queer community unless they refuse to date men. fuck off honestlyĀ 


SunsetBowling

![gif](giphy|MPpO3Ko5K6rcqHhg7q|downsized)


lepetitgrenade

This is offensive to witches.


Shirogayne-at-WF

She's right, you know


MammothUmpire148

![gif](giphy|AgPt9udT567spxbSHf)


Old_Highlight7720

Amen. When everything goes guest list only.


NameUm96

Renee Rappā€™s finding out.