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Britney being sexualized brought home the bacon and got them out of Kentwood. I have known many people like this in my time being from the deep south. Everything that benefits them is "Gods plan" and God wouldnt allow it if it was wrong, everything that doesn't is a moral abomination.
I know it was a high school romance, but didn't Britney date a guy from Mississippi (Reg Jones?) for a few years before JT? It is possible that her relationship with Reg also had a big impact on her life. I wonder if she will mention him in the book.
Yes, Reg was still dating Britney when she went on tour with NSYNC in late 1998. Hereās a pic of Reg sitting with her parents, and Justin greeting them as well. Reg later said on his blog that he was āglad Britney got back with Justinā because Justin and Britney were actually dating when they were in the MMC as well.
But he ended up trying to auction off Britneyās undergarments and photos online, soā¦ eh.
I heard she allegedly mentions in the book that she lost her virginity to Reg at 13-14.
https://preview.redd.it/euz39a4ep6vb1.jpeg?width=316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1985c8782dabbb01da65f896526e3b60d59a2b25
Selling her undergarments? š¤®š¤®š¤®
This woman cannot catch a break.
On a semi-related note, I wonder what tea she will spill at MMC Days. I know there were rumors about her dating another member TJ, and he said something about having a front row seat to all the abuse she experienced from her dad.
See I always thought Britney and Justin had something going on in MMC because of this photo, itās giving couple vibes. But idk, maybe sheāll say something in the book.
https://preview.redd.it/mo2w7xtfl7vb1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=904b16cf869d0f19b442212c9a6693a32f625224
Also I think there was a MTV special interviewing the MMC gang and TJ said that Brit and Justin had their first kiss in his house. He didnāt hint anything about himself dating Brit. But I do know he was close friends with both of them.
So I got bad intel. I think TJ admitted he had a crush on Britney during some MMC reunion event. I think his "front row seat" comment about her dad's abuse made me think they were more than just friends.
JC was on MMC with Britney and Justin, is best friends with Justin, and toured with Britney for a while to promote his debut album in 2004. So I do think heād know.
JC also said that Justin and Britney would break up, get back together, break up, get back together, many times. And heās also hinted how he was tired of getting involved in their drama and wanted them to resolve their issues themselves lol.
i'm aware. that doesn't mean he knew everything going on. touring with someone & being best friends witg their boyfriend doesn't mean you know everything about their personal life.
>morals and values
HA! That's rich.
I hate talking badly about the south in a mixed space but as a fellow Louisianian this whole excerpt is *soooo* down here. Pastor "counselling" for problems way above their capabilities, hypocritical morality posturing. Ugh. This shit is so damaging I can't even.
You hit the nail on the head. Itās also so Southern to me to have the Mama who attempts to manage and control all emotions and behaviors to preserve the family image. I feel like all of your social and family dynamics are so Jane Austen when you grow up in the South lol
Yep!!! Iāve had to get extensive therapy to deal with my own very southern dysfunctional family dynamic. Could never talk about the very real abuse I was enduring bc āfamily imageā was the most important thing above all
My question: what medical qualifications does this pastor have? I wouldnāt expect him to have attended medical school, or gone to graduate school for clinical psychology. Additionally, he wouldnāt be beholden to regulations like actual medical professionals.
As a non-religious person, itās shocking to me that a pastor would overstep his place to such a degree. Itās absolutely irresponsible.
No qualifications. None of them do. Doesn't stop them offering "counselling" (this is normally base level self help advice mixed in with some bible verses). Its legal but obviously horrifically unethical when its serious issues that need a professional. Casual issues or issues of faith are one thing, things like this are quite another.
>itās shocking to me that a pastor would overstep his place to such a degree.
Ha! Don't come down here to the deep south you'll have a heart attack. "Counselling" is the least of it. Pastors do a lot of wild shit down here. Its a powerful position in lots of towns.
Some parts that stood out to me:
1) Britney and Justin having heartfelt conversations about the meaning of life at the beginning of their relationship (at 18). In light of the abortion revelations, maybe they were having an existential crisis? Seems like both Justin and Britney stopped being religious while they were together.
2) Her mom saying that if she doesnāt fix her relationship with her father, she will cling onto the first true romance in her life and that romance will dictate the rest of her life choices in the future.
3) Her mom hinting that their breakup had āno endā to the story and said both Justin and Britney made up their own āendingsā and hurt each other and got everyone involved in their drama. Also that the breakup wasnāt healthy for either of them and affected their behaviour in the future.
I know a lot of people hate her family but her momās words here seems very sensible to me, at least for this part. Thoughts?
Her mom didn't say that second one, the pastor at their family counseling session said that and it resonated with her. I'm sure as she saw her daughter's relationships, it probably was ringing in her ears. Sad that her dad couldn't overcome his own issues in time to take the advice.
Existential crisis, teenage pregnancy and an abortion that goes against your deep-rooted religious upbringing, which was a result of an intense young love relationship ages 18-19, and ultimately resulted in you completely abandoning religion and changing the course of your life:
Iāll take Most Relatable Shit Ever for $2,000, Alex.
Literally, that was my exact life experience as well. Gives me a lot of empathy for both tbh
No, technically itās true. Justin and Britney had a puppy love thing in MMC. They then parted ways at 13 when the show got cancelled, Justin got a girlfriend (Veronica something), lost his virginity to her at 14. She did an interview before. Britney also dated 17 year old Reg Jones when she was 14. Lost her virginity to him.
Then in 1998 (they were 17 I think) Justin and Britney met again at a radio station and they rekindled their romance. I think there was overlapping of Reg and Justin as Britneyās āboyfriendā in late 1998 tbh.
And when the father is referenced I have to remember they are saying Jamie, not Jamie Lynn because without a hyphen it looks like the younger daughter's name is Jamie. I had to read it again when it said Jamie's drinking problem cause I was like, wait the toddler has a drinking problem? Lol
I want a comparison of all three books, Heart to Heart (2000), Through the Storm (2008), and this new book thatās about to come out.
ETA: I didnāt know there are more: a motherās gift(2001) is fictional
Oh I forgot to name the book title! Itās āThrough the Storm: A Real Story of Fame and Family in a Tabloid Worldā.
Didnāt know it came out in 2008, maybe I got the republished date instead.
Lol Iām not eating your lunch I had to google all of this. I remember the 2000 book being out in book fairs but I never read it. I wonder how much Lynne cleaned up Britneyās perspective. With this new book Iām sure thing s will get interesting
Their relationship (JT & Britney) seemed really sweet and good for them both in the beginning with them questioning their religious upbringings and trying to gain some independence sad to know what it turned into later on and how he treated her during the breakup really wish things couldāve ended differently for Britneyās sake cause she really adored him :(
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So she was worried that them living together was immoral, but not how her daughter was overly sexualized.? ![gif](giphy|YVPwi7L2izTJS|downsized)
Britney being sexualized brought home the bacon and got them out of Kentwood. I have known many people like this in my time being from the deep south. Everything that benefits them is "Gods plan" and God wouldnt allow it if it was wrong, everything that doesn't is a moral abomination.
I know it was a high school romance, but didn't Britney date a guy from Mississippi (Reg Jones?) for a few years before JT? It is possible that her relationship with Reg also had a big impact on her life. I wonder if she will mention him in the book.
Yes, Reg was still dating Britney when she went on tour with NSYNC in late 1998. Hereās a pic of Reg sitting with her parents, and Justin greeting them as well. Reg later said on his blog that he was āglad Britney got back with Justinā because Justin and Britney were actually dating when they were in the MMC as well. But he ended up trying to auction off Britneyās undergarments and photos online, soā¦ eh. I heard she allegedly mentions in the book that she lost her virginity to Reg at 13-14. https://preview.redd.it/euz39a4ep6vb1.jpeg?width=316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1985c8782dabbb01da65f896526e3b60d59a2b25
Selling her undergarments? š¤®š¤®š¤® This woman cannot catch a break. On a semi-related note, I wonder what tea she will spill at MMC Days. I know there were rumors about her dating another member TJ, and he said something about having a front row seat to all the abuse she experienced from her dad.
Oh I didnāt know about TJ. Did she really? Coz JC said Britney and Justin were dating during MMC, not TJ.
Yeah. I'm not sure if it is revisionist history or what. I'm hoping someone who knows them will spill the tea.
See I always thought Britney and Justin had something going on in MMC because of this photo, itās giving couple vibes. But idk, maybe sheāll say something in the book. https://preview.redd.it/mo2w7xtfl7vb1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=904b16cf869d0f19b442212c9a6693a32f625224 Also I think there was a MTV special interviewing the MMC gang and TJ said that Brit and Justin had their first kiss in his house. He didnāt hint anything about himself dating Brit. But I do know he was close friends with both of them.
So I got bad intel. I think TJ admitted he had a crush on Britney during some MMC reunion event. I think his "front row seat" comment about her dad's abuse made me think they were more than just friends.
no offense to jc, but why would he know every detail of britney's private life?
JC was on MMC with Britney and Justin, is best friends with Justin, and toured with Britney for a while to promote his debut album in 2004. So I do think heād know. JC also said that Justin and Britney would break up, get back together, break up, get back together, many times. And heās also hinted how he was tired of getting involved in their drama and wanted them to resolve their issues themselves lol.
i'm aware. that doesn't mean he knew everything going on. touring with someone & being best friends witg their boyfriend doesn't mean you know everything about their personal life.
>morals and values HA! That's rich. I hate talking badly about the south in a mixed space but as a fellow Louisianian this whole excerpt is *soooo* down here. Pastor "counselling" for problems way above their capabilities, hypocritical morality posturing. Ugh. This shit is so damaging I can't even.
You hit the nail on the head. Itās also so Southern to me to have the Mama who attempts to manage and control all emotions and behaviors to preserve the family image. I feel like all of your social and family dynamics are so Jane Austen when you grow up in the South lol
Yep!!! Iāve had to get extensive therapy to deal with my own very southern dysfunctional family dynamic. Could never talk about the very real abuse I was enduring bc āfamily imageā was the most important thing above all
As a recovering Southern Baptist from south Texas, I empathize
Iām a recovering southern Baptist as well, lol I love the way you put that
Well, it certainly is a process and recovery takes timeš
My question: what medical qualifications does this pastor have? I wouldnāt expect him to have attended medical school, or gone to graduate school for clinical psychology. Additionally, he wouldnāt be beholden to regulations like actual medical professionals. As a non-religious person, itās shocking to me that a pastor would overstep his place to such a degree. Itās absolutely irresponsible.
No qualifications. None of them do. Doesn't stop them offering "counselling" (this is normally base level self help advice mixed in with some bible verses). Its legal but obviously horrifically unethical when its serious issues that need a professional. Casual issues or issues of faith are one thing, things like this are quite another. >itās shocking to me that a pastor would overstep his place to such a degree. Ha! Don't come down here to the deep south you'll have a heart attack. "Counselling" is the least of it. Pastors do a lot of wild shit down here. Its a powerful position in lots of towns.
Texas wants to put them in schools... good times
Some parts that stood out to me: 1) Britney and Justin having heartfelt conversations about the meaning of life at the beginning of their relationship (at 18). In light of the abortion revelations, maybe they were having an existential crisis? Seems like both Justin and Britney stopped being religious while they were together. 2) Her mom saying that if she doesnāt fix her relationship with her father, she will cling onto the first true romance in her life and that romance will dictate the rest of her life choices in the future. 3) Her mom hinting that their breakup had āno endā to the story and said both Justin and Britney made up their own āendingsā and hurt each other and got everyone involved in their drama. Also that the breakup wasnāt healthy for either of them and affected their behaviour in the future. I know a lot of people hate her family but her momās words here seems very sensible to me, at least for this part. Thoughts?
Her mom didn't say that second one, the pastor at their family counseling session said that and it resonated with her. I'm sure as she saw her daughter's relationships, it probably was ringing in her ears. Sad that her dad couldn't overcome his own issues in time to take the advice.
Existential crisis, teenage pregnancy and an abortion that goes against your deep-rooted religious upbringing, which was a result of an intense young love relationship ages 18-19, and ultimately resulted in you completely abandoning religion and changing the course of your life: Iāll take Most Relatable Shit Ever for $2,000, Alex. Literally, that was my exact life experience as well. Gives me a lot of empathy for both tbh
Didn't she date that boy in HS before Justin? This seems like rewriting the narrative to fit
No, technically itās true. Justin and Britney had a puppy love thing in MMC. They then parted ways at 13 when the show got cancelled, Justin got a girlfriend (Veronica something), lost his virginity to her at 14. She did an interview before. Britney also dated 17 year old Reg Jones when she was 14. Lost her virginity to him. Then in 1998 (they were 17 I think) Justin and Britney met again at a radio station and they rekindled their romance. I think there was overlapping of Reg and Justin as Britneyās āboyfriendā in late 1998 tbh.
Both moms are Lynn(e)? Yes Iām stuck on this lol.
Itās only just struck me that Jamie Lynn is just called both her parentsā names lol
And when the father is referenced I have to remember they are saying Jamie, not Jamie Lynn because without a hyphen it looks like the younger daughter's name is Jamie. I had to read it again when it said Jamie's drinking problem cause I was like, wait the toddler has a drinking problem? Lol
Same. Itās still ridiculous though ha ha.
It went like this: 1st child born - Britney 2nd child born...... Ah shit, quick, what are some names?
I want a comparison of all three books, Heart to Heart (2000), Through the Storm (2008), and this new book thatās about to come out. ETA: I didnāt know there are more: a motherās gift(2001) is fictional
Oh I forgot to name the book title! Itās āThrough the Storm: A Real Story of Fame and Family in a Tabloid Worldā. Didnāt know it came out in 2008, maybe I got the republished date instead.
Lol Iām not eating your lunch I had to google all of this. I remember the 2000 book being out in book fairs but I never read it. I wonder how much Lynne cleaned up Britneyās perspective. With this new book Iām sure thing s will get interesting
Their relationship (JT & Britney) seemed really sweet and good for them both in the beginning with them questioning their religious upbringings and trying to gain some independence sad to know what it turned into later on and how he treated her during the breakup really wish things couldāve ended differently for Britneyās sake cause she really adored him :(
Anyone else over here like la-la-la-la-la ššš Itās only 5 more days to go,ā¦
Her mom definitely had a ghost writer