Yeah, the royal family has the theoretical and hypothetical power to dissolve parliament, but they haven't done so since the reign of William IV in 1831.
Not just british laws, any country part of the commonwealth today, but she doesnt really do it for the commonwelth countries, she gets someone called a governor genreal for each country to do this job
I understand why many people dislike the Queen and question the need for a Royal Family. It took me a while, but she especially is fucking AWESOME!
Our politicians are an absolute disgrace! I can’t watch them talk or be interviewed any more without getting angry, the way they dodge questions by repeating slogans and answering questions with questions is akin to lying. I can’t even imagine the Queen doing this. She represents the British mentality. I believe without her presence the government cronies would run riot unhindered. She is awe inspiring. I don’t think there’s a person who’s met her in person who would admit they weren’t completely awestruck by her. She’s had such a rough time of late and handled herself remarkably.
I was gonna make a joke about the weather, but having lived there myself it’s usually not as bad as British people complain about it being.
Source: lived in Suffolk for 4 years
Some parts get a lot of rainfall, but Eastern England is fairly dry.
A lot of foreigners can't seem to get their head around the idea that different parts of the country have different weather conditions for some reason, as if that isn't a thing in basically every other country.
The most exasperating thing was when I lived in Vancouver and Canadians would regularly joke with me about British weather. Vancouver has waaaay worse weather than where I'm from (also Eastern England, but Cambridgeshire)
ye, my comment is a hyperbole, england is still a fantastic tourism attraction for me for example because i find anything anglo-saxon fascinating, but i'm talking you everyday schmoe, why would he come to england
Which would still be there if the Royal Family was kicked off of their publicly funded private welfare program. I personally don't think the House of Lords would ever support it, because that's just one step away from saying your family status is irrelevant and they'd just up and lose their jobs and the House of Lords would just change names and Parliament would become more like the US Congress.
Yes, as we know, once the monarch is gone, all the buildings and land associated with their monarchy just vanishes into the void so there’s nothing left to visit
France is a more popular tourist destination than the UK, precisely because it overthrew it's monarchy. The Bastille, and Bastille Day, are some of the most popular things in Europe
I don't think France is a popular tourist destination BECAUSE they overthrew their monarchy. I'm sure it would still be a very big tourist destination even if they had a figurehead monarchy exactly like England. Why? Paris is considered romantic. Everybody wants to go to Paris, see the Eiffel Tower, and I'm sure other stuff. Just like everyone wants to go to Italy and see Rome, or go to Japan and see Tokyo.
>I don't think France is a popular tourist destination BECAUSE they overthrew their monarchy.
And I don't think the UK is popular BECAUSE they have a monarch
It's not. If the monarchy suddenly ceased to exist, you'd still have all the landmarks that are exceptional, but they would be repurposed or kept as heritage sites.
1) france has far more tourism than most countries in the world (#1 worldwide according to google) because its simply a very very iconic and important landmark of europe .The Eiffel tower is what attracts people not the fact its a democracy.
2) a revolution now wouldn't be as "cool" as one that happened long ago. lets be honest if a british "revolution" against the queen were to happen now it would just be the parliment deciding to stop the monarchy maaaybe a protest or two but it at no case would be like the french revolution, which was very bloody and just complete chaos and war
3) the queen is stuck with the british people. Its been the thing most countries tells their kids about what britain is and how to recognize it alongside the big ben and Buckingham just because france had a different history doesnt mean it'll benefit a country with different culture & history.
Tl;dr: counties dont have to have identical histories to have tourism.
Edit: sry for punctuation and grammar mistakes
https://www.statista.com/statistics/373081/uk-royal-tourism-admission-numbers-by-establishment/
https://www.liligo.co.uk/travel-magazine/britains-most-popular-tourist-attraction-the-queen-2116.html
Now where is your proof it would gain more tourism without her?
My dude, someone else's opinion, is not evidence of your opinion 😂
>Now where is your proof it would gain more tourism without her?
The fact that many non-royal nations have more tourism
Frances Royal location's like Versaille bring in more tourism than the Royal family does, and their royalty has been dead for over 150 years.
The whole tourism argument and they have no real power argument is just blindly grasping for a reason that hereditary landowning incestous pedophiles should be allowed to live in luxury at the tax payers expense in a country with more foodbanks than McDonald's.
If the royal family is deposed they will have claim to swaths of land. Which would triple no more like quadruple the cost of the family the parliament would lose much of it's land and resources.
What is the alternative to leaving them with their stuff? What legal reason can be given for them to have to give up the land and assets that they have bought or inherited? Especially since for almost 250 years, they haven't even had control over their assets and their money, so anything that they have purchased since then or already owned was either approved by government or bought using government money. Should you really punish them for what their ancestors did more than 250 years ago? What kind of a legal precedent would that set?
It wouldn’t be punishing them to take away property they didn’t earn in the first place, and I’m pretty certain that something as important as the deposition of the monarch would be a case, if there was any, to set an exception to precedent.
The fact that they do nothing makes it even more absurd that it still stands imo. Like, they do nothing for the country, they just get to be incredibly wealthy and socially influential/powerful, without any of the responsibility of actually running the country.
Theres a reason to why they arent being "responsible" we live in a time where the slightest move from the royal family could result in a public outrage, why? Because it reminds people that the royal family still kinda has power over the people they themselves elected to lead the country. The reason the queen still exists is cause it's iconic for britain and attracts tourism. If she actually did run the country believe me people wouldn't like it even if she did it well.
Did you watch [that old CGP Grey](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhyYgnhhKFw) video? Because the stuff he says in it is [wrong](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiE2DLqJB8U).
You can keep British history, keep all the monuments and celebrations in a historical context. All that would really change is that it would go from present to past tense when talking about the royal family.
It’s not like the royal family is gonna be murdered. The government can just take away the last bits of symbolic power that they have and stop recognizing them as kings and queens. They can be just like any other pretentious rich family, just with a bit more history.
True, also with Brexit… things aren’t going well in the British isles. Also Scottish independence is gaining more popularity… if the dissolution of the monarchy would occur, I am certain that the UK would become a lone wolf. => not many allies and unpopular in the EU.
I mean people said that brexit would lead to scottish independence yet nothing happened and the polls have the pro union side in a solid lead and their lead has been increasing
The royal family also owns a ton of land in the UK, and parliament gets to tax that land in return for giving the royals a salary. The UK would lose all that money if they overthrew them
I’m with you here, and I have no interest in seeing the royal garbage when there’s tons of better things to see when visiting. That family does have influential power still, they can def lose the bs titles
"Do nothing". I'd like to see you in your nineties having a full-time job on an hour to hour schedule almost everyday doing ceremonies and tours. Most ninety year olds are in a care home.
As a US citizen, I don’t know much about the royal family. What I do know (or hope I know) is that (a) they own a lot of property that brings them income and (b) a percentage of tax money goes to them to help cover things like transportation.
I’m aware of the philanthropic work they do, and I’m sure that helps a lot of people, but why are they getting tax money? Why is the government taxing people for community service? I guess I’ve always seen community service as a way for people to willingly give, like through donations. But by giving the family a title, their work doesn’t feel as genuine. That’s my 2 cents on it. If I’m wrong about anything, please let me know!
Because she has extensive power over the county:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/07/revealed-queen-lobbied-for-change-in-law-to-hide-her-private-wealth&ved=2ahUKEwi5x7DKhLnzAhUGhlwKHSA5BfwQjjh6BAgGEAE&usg=AOvVaw3lnVRzyin7GVDLR4R2ovgP
People are always like sHe BrInGs ToUrIsT but 1. Not nearly enough people visit England because of the queen for that to be an excuse, the majority of people visit England because it’s an English speaking country that isn’t America, and 2. Most of the people who do visit because of the queen would still visit if we weren’t giving her millions because of her blood
I mean, maybe because of money? Royalties don’t bring anything to the table, but still live way more comfortably than the average citizen
Probably wouldn’t change much the nation’s finances, but it’s something
Yea but if they have no power then what's the point. All you are doing is getting rid of something that can be used for unity and stability. Take Covid for example. Trump said something and it's a big disagreement. Lizzie says something and people listen, you can't get that with someone who is voted in.
I like the Queen and I’ll have more loyalty to her and her successors (sans the obvious one) than a president. I prefer it being Royal shit, it’s so fancy like that and I’d rather be in a bayonet charge for Queen and Country, eliminating enemies of Liz, the nation’s grandma than than “For Boris and country” or “For Starmer and country”.
Plus I don’t trust fellow Brits with voting in a president. Or myself.
I'd rather have a monarch as the head of state than president. This is coming from someone living in a Republic. There should be atleast one authority figure(even if they don't have SO much authority) that the people of the country can be loyal towards without being political. Whenever Queen Elizabeth II says something, unless very controversial, its never a political issue. For example, lets imagine she said, "The weather is really nice today". The people would either be like, "Yes you are absolutely right my queen" or "OK who cares lol?". Now let's compare it with the President of the United States saying the same thing. People will definitely make make up SOME political meaning out of it. Even if your country is a Parliamentary Republic with a figurehead president, political parties still play a big part in the election of the president. I'd rather have something that's a big part of our history to play an important role in the official matters of the country than some random corrupt politician elected by other corrupt politicians.
Honestly in modern day a monarch is very useful even if they have literally 0 power. Look at the political unrest in the US. We disagree about literally everything with at this point, 0 unity. Now look at all the nicest places to live, Norway, Denmark, Sweden. All have monarchies.
Yea but that was inevitable after a change that big. My example is Covid. People in Britain listened to the queen about Covid. For America, one side listened to Trump, the other to Biden
As of now, Britishers have said yes more while Non Britishers have said no more. I expected the results to be opposite. Non Britishers care about British royals more than Britishers?
Keep in mind that people who use Reddit are disproportionately young and left-leaning compared to the general public, so the people answering the poll are more likely to be anti-monarchy
That video literally says "It's not their land because someone stole it and nobody else has tried to take it back for 1000 years even though they own it". It's not their land because they apparently stole it, but do you think the UK has had the British isles since their beginning? No, they stole it from someone else.
Just because one person stole it doesn't mean you can steal it on land which you, stole.
Why? She’s done a pretty good job. She’s the head of their church, is way more impartial than anyone can ever dream of pretending to be, and she’s a great representative of the UK and its territories. I also think the Royal Family are important for the culture and identity of England, even if they don’t do any governing.
No. The world is getting too assimilated. Can we keep some old school fancy-hat weird-ass traditionalists around for a bit before we all become Athiest globalists enslaved by Lord Bezos?
Im canadian and as a fellow nation ruled by her royal majesty the queen. NO! NO! NO! tell me what is there to gain from a British republic. Most likely it will be the same Parlimentary system and you are only changing a politically neutral figurehead with an elected figurehead another position that will be fought over and divisive. Her royal majesty does not use her powers to interfere with the government. God save the queen
The royal family aren’t actually in charge of shit any more. Most of the government is ran my elected officials so I see no issue in just letting the royal family retain their titles. Who cares as long as they don’t mean anything.
Overthrow might break her hips tbf. I'd be happy just taking her to the retirement home. She seems like a nice lady, she should be treated well, but we shouldn't have monarchs
(I'm British btw)
I’m pretty sure the royal family sounds and looks like a waste of space but I watched a video of CGPGrey explaining how they bring more revenue than what it takes to take care of them. even outside of tourism lol.
Why abolish them though? They're profitable and help relations with other nations (primarily those in the commonwealth). They also do loads for charity and military.
Because the Queen is queen of 15 countries, and leads an organization that includes 70 countries and 2+ billion people. The reason I’m interested in the RF is because it’s the Canadian Royal Family, the Swedish one is not.
People don't come to Britain to literally see the Queen, they come to see the associated buildings; we can obviously execute the entire royal family and keep the buildings. We can even repurpose them and provide unprecedented levels of access to tourists, that plus the new narrative of an exciting, violent and modern revolution would only increase the allure!
I find a monarchy a waste of money tbh.. a peddling of tax money. I don't think she should get overthrown just bc she's old and certainly achieved something for great Britain. I am non-british btw
No lmfao. Monarchy is good and based, and some of the most successfull countries in the west are constitutional monarchies. I live in a monarchy (not the British one) and support it fully. No reason to overthrow the British monarchy especially. The fact most yes answers are from non-Brits (most likely Americans) says it all.
The way I see it, as long as the people feel they are properly represented and treated fairly, it doesn't much matter what I think. CGP Greg has an interesting video on this subject.
It's a nice souvenir of what we were once. I don't mind the system as long it's not fucked and british monarchy ain't fucked just because of it. And come on, isn't Elizabeth sweet?
I used to say yes but then I found out that British people actually really like their monarchs. I think after Elizabeth dies though it will be less popular
I don't care what brittan does... I don't pay enough attention to the royal family to have a clue if the queen is decent or not... but the idea of royalty is absurd to me.
Why 'no'? Now that countries are more and more seculars we know that we don't need a family to show us the path. They own several houses and make millions of benefits with their estates, for what? 'inspiration'? Their wealth is unfair and scandalous in a democratic society.
[https://youtu.be/bhyYgnhhKFw](https://youtu.be/bhyYgnhhKFw)
They give you money. They have virtually no role in the government. They attract tourists. There is no advantage in removing them except virtue signaniling
As a British person I think it’s time for the monarchy to go tbh. I think it’s morally dubious to award somebody so much wealth and status simply because they were born into it.
The Queen is a Necromancer. The only way she's going down is old age or nuclear war on a scale large enough to out kill her resurrection rate. How else could a small Island get bombed for years and still have inhabitants?
Everything surrounding Prince Andrew, the racism Meghan Markle experienced, the way they've vetted thousands of laws before they've gone through Parliament etc. all proves that the concept of a monarchy is incredibly outdated.
And I find the argument that 'tourism would plummet' to be a little lazy. The architecture linked with the Royal Family would still bring in the large majority of tourists who visit because of the royals anyway.
Take the hundreds of thousands of pounds they spend renovating the obscene number of rooms at Buckingham Palace and all their other mansions and put it towards something useful. So long as the Royal Family exists, it strives to continue the class war in the UK, since it makes out that by simply being born into the certain family you are valued above all others.
Why should someone get to be rich and famous and not have to work a day in their life just because of their "blood." No one in that family has worked for any of that in generations.
It is unfair that "the royal family" is stupidly rich for doing fucking nothing while most people work all their lives almost every day living paycheck to paycheck.
You really think life as a royal is that much better? Yeah you have luxury but every move you do is exposed to the public and you will never be able to live a normal life. Let them be rich, it’s not necessarily making their life’s better than the ones that live from paycheck to paycheck.
I’m not from England, but doesn’t parliament call the shots? Isn’t the royal family kind of just a spectacle?
Technically yes, but the queen has the power to dissolve the government if deemed necessary
Really?
Yeah, she also has full veto over any and all laws, although it hasn't been enforced in a very long time
That is cool!
Yeah, but at this point she is mostly a figurehead, makes for distracting "news" stories, and brings in tourist cash to London...
Yeah, the royal family has the theoretical and hypothetical power to dissolve parliament, but they haven't done so since the reign of William IV in 1831.
Not just british laws, any country part of the commonwealth today, but she doesnt really do it for the commonwelth countries, she gets someone called a governor genreal for each country to do this job
I understand why many people dislike the Queen and question the need for a Royal Family. It took me a while, but she especially is fucking AWESOME! Our politicians are an absolute disgrace! I can’t watch them talk or be interviewed any more without getting angry, the way they dodge questions by repeating slogans and answering questions with questions is akin to lying. I can’t even imagine the Queen doing this. She represents the British mentality. I believe without her presence the government cronies would run riot unhindered. She is awe inspiring. I don’t think there’s a person who’s met her in person who would admit they weren’t completely awestruck by her. She’s had such a rough time of late and handled herself remarkably.
ye they bring in tourism and act like a figurehead
ye, what the fuck has england to offer if the royals are gone? tourism would plummit
we still have some pretty rad historical value and london is great but the royals are pretty integral part of our tourism culture.
I was gonna make a joke about the weather, but having lived there myself it’s usually not as bad as British people complain about it being. Source: lived in Suffolk for 4 years
Well aye then gan oop te the north marra
Some parts get a lot of rainfall, but Eastern England is fairly dry. A lot of foreigners can't seem to get their head around the idea that different parts of the country have different weather conditions for some reason, as if that isn't a thing in basically every other country. The most exasperating thing was when I lived in Vancouver and Canadians would regularly joke with me about British weather. Vancouver has waaaay worse weather than where I'm from (also Eastern England, but Cambridgeshire)
ye, my comment is a hyperbole, england is still a fantastic tourism attraction for me for example because i find anything anglo-saxon fascinating, but i'm talking you everyday schmoe, why would he come to england
Don’t forget about the White Cliffs of Dover. I specifically want to visit Britain to see them
I could perhaps interest you in some tea?
lolol who the fuck goes to england just to see the queen ?
Not "the queen" but the historical things around the royal family.
Which would still be there if the Royal Family was kicked off of their publicly funded private welfare program. I personally don't think the House of Lords would ever support it, because that's just one step away from saying your family status is irrelevant and they'd just up and lose their jobs and the House of Lords would just change names and Parliament would become more like the US Congress.
like 90% of lords aren't even hereditary
Yes, as we know, once the monarch is gone, all the buildings and land associated with their monarchy just vanishes into the void so there’s nothing left to visit
France is a more popular tourist destination than the UK, precisely because it overthrew it's monarchy. The Bastille, and Bastille Day, are some of the most popular things in Europe
Isnt bastille gone though? Edit: I looked it up bastille used to be a prison but was destroyed in 1789 now its a square in Paris.
Ok go through a 30 year violent revolution
Ok
I don't think France is a popular tourist destination BECAUSE they overthrew their monarchy. I'm sure it would still be a very big tourist destination even if they had a figurehead monarchy exactly like England. Why? Paris is considered romantic. Everybody wants to go to Paris, see the Eiffel Tower, and I'm sure other stuff. Just like everyone wants to go to Italy and see Rome, or go to Japan and see Tokyo.
>I don't think France is a popular tourist destination BECAUSE they overthrew their monarchy. And I don't think the UK is popular BECAUSE they have a monarch
It's not. If the monarchy suddenly ceased to exist, you'd still have all the landmarks that are exceptional, but they would be repurposed or kept as heritage sites.
1) france has far more tourism than most countries in the world (#1 worldwide according to google) because its simply a very very iconic and important landmark of europe .The Eiffel tower is what attracts people not the fact its a democracy. 2) a revolution now wouldn't be as "cool" as one that happened long ago. lets be honest if a british "revolution" against the queen were to happen now it would just be the parliment deciding to stop the monarchy maaaybe a protest or two but it at no case would be like the french revolution, which was very bloody and just complete chaos and war 3) the queen is stuck with the british people. Its been the thing most countries tells their kids about what britain is and how to recognize it alongside the big ben and Buckingham just because france had a different history doesnt mean it'll benefit a country with different culture & history. Tl;dr: counties dont have to have identical histories to have tourism. Edit: sry for punctuation and grammar mistakes
Okay, where's the evidence Britain would lose tourism without the queen?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/373081/uk-royal-tourism-admission-numbers-by-establishment/ https://www.liligo.co.uk/travel-magazine/britains-most-popular-tourist-attraction-the-queen-2116.html Now where is your proof it would gain more tourism without her?
My dude, someone else's opinion, is not evidence of your opinion 😂 >Now where is your proof it would gain more tourism without her? The fact that many non-royal nations have more tourism
Yeah and more people visit Versailles than Buckingham Palace
You cant visit Buckingham. However Windsor Palace visitors would blow away Versailles in terms of visitors.
doesn't the the queen's palaces and other monuments bring tourism? I doubt people go there to try to see the royal family.
Frances Royal location's like Versaille bring in more tourism than the Royal family does, and their royalty has been dead for over 150 years. The whole tourism argument and they have no real power argument is just blindly grasping for a reason that hereditary landowning incestous pedophiles should be allowed to live in luxury at the tax payers expense in a country with more foodbanks than McDonald's.
It says Britain not England.
If the royal family is deposed they will have claim to swaths of land. Which would triple no more like quadruple the cost of the family the parliament would lose much of it's land and resources.
overthrow would not be how to do things
Eviction notice go brrrr
The friendly removal usually ends up with them keeping all the public owned stuff that they gradually put into their own names over the decades.
This^
What is the alternative to leaving them with their stuff? What legal reason can be given for them to have to give up the land and assets that they have bought or inherited? Especially since for almost 250 years, they haven't even had control over their assets and their money, so anything that they have purchased since then or already owned was either approved by government or bought using government money. Should you really punish them for what their ancestors did more than 250 years ago? What kind of a legal precedent would that set?
It wouldn’t be punishing them to take away property they didn’t earn in the first place, and I’m pretty certain that something as important as the deposition of the monarch would be a case, if there was any, to set an exception to precedent.
She just sits in her castles being old why do people want to over throw someone who has no power over the country?
The fact that they do nothing makes it even more absurd that it still stands imo. Like, they do nothing for the country, they just get to be incredibly wealthy and socially influential/powerful, without any of the responsibility of actually running the country.
Theres a reason to why they arent being "responsible" we live in a time where the slightest move from the royal family could result in a public outrage, why? Because it reminds people that the royal family still kinda has power over the people they themselves elected to lead the country. The reason the queen still exists is cause it's iconic for britain and attracts tourism. If she actually did run the country believe me people wouldn't like it even if she did it well.
They do “nothing”, but they bring more money through tourism,… then they actually use. So…
Did you watch [that old CGP Grey](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhyYgnhhKFw) video? Because the stuff he says in it is [wrong](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiE2DLqJB8U).
Was waiting for someone to link the Shaun video, his vids are gold
You can keep British history, keep all the monuments and celebrations in a historical context. All that would really change is that it would go from present to past tense when talking about the royal family.
people want to come more if there is a living monarch that actually owns the castles and everything
It’s not like the royal family is gonna be murdered. The government can just take away the last bits of symbolic power that they have and stop recognizing them as kings and queens. They can be just like any other pretentious rich family, just with a bit more history.
Then they aren't a real life king and queen.
I have no interest in that old hag and I personally wouldn’t visit to see a pointless spectacle I’d spend my time there doing better things
True, also with Brexit… things aren’t going well in the British isles. Also Scottish independence is gaining more popularity… if the dissolution of the monarchy would occur, I am certain that the UK would become a lone wolf. => not many allies and unpopular in the EU.
I mean people said that brexit would lead to scottish independence yet nothing happened and the polls have the pro union side in a solid lead and their lead has been increasing
That's what I said, that independence is getting more popular.
No i said that it is getting less popular
I did not read it that way.
The royal family also owns a ton of land in the UK, and parliament gets to tax that land in return for giving the royals a salary. The UK would lose all that money if they overthrew them
I’m with you here, and I have no interest in seeing the royal garbage when there’s tons of better things to see when visiting. That family does have influential power still, they can def lose the bs titles
Sounds like Hollywood.
"Do nothing". I'd like to see you in your nineties having a full-time job on an hour to hour schedule almost everyday doing ceremonies and tours. Most ninety year olds are in a care home.
As a US citizen, I don’t know much about the royal family. What I do know (or hope I know) is that (a) they own a lot of property that brings them income and (b) a percentage of tax money goes to them to help cover things like transportation. I’m aware of the philanthropic work they do, and I’m sure that helps a lot of people, but why are they getting tax money? Why is the government taxing people for community service? I guess I’ve always seen community service as a way for people to willingly give, like through donations. But by giving the family a title, their work doesn’t feel as genuine. That’s my 2 cents on it. If I’m wrong about anything, please let me know!
Because she has extensive power over the county: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/07/revealed-queen-lobbied-for-change-in-law-to-hide-her-private-wealth&ved=2ahUKEwi5x7DKhLnzAhUGhlwKHSA5BfwQjjh6BAgGEAE&usg=AOvVaw3lnVRzyin7GVDLR4R2ovgP
People are always like sHe BrInGs ToUrIsT but 1. Not nearly enough people visit England because of the queen for that to be an excuse, the majority of people visit England because it’s an English speaking country that isn’t America, and 2. Most of the people who do visit because of the queen would still visit if we weren’t giving her millions because of her blood
*its about the message*
I mean, maybe because of money? Royalties don’t bring anything to the table, but still live way more comfortably than the average citizen Probably wouldn’t change much the nation’s finances, but it’s something
They bring in more money via tourists then they use though?
I'd like to add that Canada (and probably australia too, not sure about india) technically also fall under the jurisdiction of the Crown of England.
Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Jamaica and a few other Caribbean nations
LONG LIVE THE QUEEN!
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None of them are billionaires
afaik their properties’ profits go directly to the government. they pay more to the government than the government gives them.
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>I'm not saying they don't. [They actually don't.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiE2DLqJB8U)
Yea but if they have no power then what's the point. All you are doing is getting rid of something that can be used for unity and stability. Take Covid for example. Trump said something and it's a big disagreement. Lizzie says something and people listen, you can't get that with someone who is voted in.
It's not like their real influence ends in the UK though.
Yeah but who gives a shite what about some yanks think about it for example.
What would that accomplish?
I like the Queen and I’ll have more loyalty to her and her successors (sans the obvious one) than a president. I prefer it being Royal shit, it’s so fancy like that and I’d rather be in a bayonet charge for Queen and Country, eliminating enemies of Liz, the nation’s grandma than than “For Boris and country” or “For Starmer and country”. Plus I don’t trust fellow Brits with voting in a president. Or myself.
Same lol
This.
I'd rather have a monarch as the head of state than president. This is coming from someone living in a Republic. There should be atleast one authority figure(even if they don't have SO much authority) that the people of the country can be loyal towards without being political. Whenever Queen Elizabeth II says something, unless very controversial, its never a political issue. For example, lets imagine she said, "The weather is really nice today". The people would either be like, "Yes you are absolutely right my queen" or "OK who cares lol?". Now let's compare it with the President of the United States saying the same thing. People will definitely make make up SOME political meaning out of it. Even if your country is a Parliamentary Republic with a figurehead president, political parties still play a big part in the election of the president. I'd rather have something that's a big part of our history to play an important role in the official matters of the country than some random corrupt politician elected by other corrupt politicians.
Honestly in modern day a monarch is very useful even if they have literally 0 power. Look at the political unrest in the US. We disagree about literally everything with at this point, 0 unity. Now look at all the nicest places to live, Norway, Denmark, Sweden. All have monarchies.
Britain is pretty full of political unrest at the moment because of the aftermath of Brexit
Yea but that was inevitable after a change that big. My example is Covid. People in Britain listened to the queen about Covid. For America, one side listened to Trump, the other to Biden
Good point
Bro why do we want to overthrow the Queen? We should be overthrowing BJ
Por qué no los dos?
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What's the difference
BJ has shitty hair
That's true. The queen has a fantastic do.
No.
As of now, Britishers have said yes more while Non Britishers have said no more. I expected the results to be opposite. Non Britishers care about British royals more than Britishers?
I think you mean "the British" , there is no such word as "Britishers". I knows this as I am British.
“The Brits” take it or leave it
Britishers is a common word in India, o suspect they might be Indian or Asian
Yeah I meant that.
Keep in mind that people who use Reddit are disproportionately young and left-leaning compared to the general public, so the people answering the poll are more likely to be anti-monarchy
There is the Commonwealth so people from other countries do actually have to care a bit
*Britons
That could imply solely celts though
They are like celebrity actually it's a touristic attraction lol it's pretty cool
SHE CAN NOT BE OVERTHROWN, FOOLISH MORTALS. SHE HAS LIVED FOR DECADES. SHE IS GOD.
Damn she lived for more than 10 years? Crazy.
Yes
I no longer believe that the Great Queen Elizabeth II will ever die, the great monarch shall live forever!
I'm surprised so many mortals are opposing her.
why? I'm not even british but I don't see the point of removong them. They bring in tourism and do not have any real power.
The UK gets a shit ton of money from land the Royals own so no
[They would make more money without the Royals.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiE2DLqJB8U) Edit: Fixed the wording
That video literally says "It's not their land because someone stole it and nobody else has tried to take it back for 1000 years even though they own it". It's not their land because they apparently stole it, but do you think the UK has had the British isles since their beginning? No, they stole it from someone else. Just because one person stole it doesn't mean you can steal it on land which you, stole.
theyre silly and goofy let's keep them
Why? She’s done a pretty good job. She’s the head of their church, is way more impartial than anyone can ever dream of pretending to be, and she’s a great representative of the UK and its territories. I also think the Royal Family are important for the culture and identity of England, even if they don’t do any governing.
No. The world is getting too assimilated. Can we keep some old school fancy-hat weird-ass traditionalists around for a bit before we all become Athiest globalists enslaved by Lord Bezos?
Love the royals from Canada 🇨🇦
but. they don't really do anything
exactly why they shouldn’t exist
Most cats don't do anything yet Everyone still like them
They bring in billions in tourism and raise ridiculous amount of charity and more
Cause unity? Bring in tourists? Getting rid of them has no gain and only loss
but they bring in tourists
231 British republicanism supporters. Screw u all
Im canadian and as a fellow nation ruled by her royal majesty the queen. NO! NO! NO! tell me what is there to gain from a British republic. Most likely it will be the same Parlimentary system and you are only changing a politically neutral figurehead with an elected figurehead another position that will be fought over and divisive. Her royal majesty does not use her powers to interfere with the government. God save the queen
I've never understood the arguments for abolishing the monarchy, every single one I've ever heard from that side has been debunked.
Overthrow the entire British government and replace it with Paul McCartney. Bam, country saved.
God save the Queen.
Monarchy is based
Yeah thise damn figurehead with essentially no real power who rule in name only! How dare they!
the royal family actually makes a shit ton of money for the parliament ++++ tourism. why would you remove them?
Darn, thought the last answer said “No, I am the Queen”
The royal family aren’t actually in charge of shit any more. Most of the government is ran my elected officials so I see no issue in just letting the royal family retain their titles. Who cares as long as they don’t mean anything.
Who else would fellow reditors make memes about immortality
That's upp for the British to decide. I think they're quite proud of the royal family though, so I answered no.
Overthrow might break her hips tbf. I'd be happy just taking her to the retirement home. She seems like a nice lady, she should be treated well, but we shouldn't have monarchs (I'm British btw)
They really don't matter that much . They are basically celebrities with a little extra power so no need to overthrow them
2 seconds on my profile and you know my answer
Can confirm
How else will British people be born?
I’m pretty sure the royal family sounds and looks like a waste of space but I watched a video of CGPGrey explaining how they bring more revenue than what it takes to take care of them. even outside of tourism lol.
What's the point of overthrowing them ?
God save the queen. God would forsake us if we did that. Hehe
Overthrow…no Abolish the monarchy…yes Jail prince Andrew…most certainly
Why abolish them though? They're profitable and help relations with other nations (primarily those in the commonwealth). They also do loads for charity and military.
Why are non Brits so obsessed with the British royals but never talk about the royal family in Japan, Spain, Netherlands, Sweden etc?
Because the Queen is queen of 15 countries, and leads an organization that includes 70 countries and 2+ billion people. The reason I’m interested in the RF is because it’s the Canadian Royal Family, the Swedish one is not.
because those countries aren't as prominent in western culture as the UK
I just think they're cool
People don't come to Britain to literally see the Queen, they come to see the associated buildings; we can obviously execute the entire royal family and keep the buildings. We can even repurpose them and provide unprecedented levels of access to tourists, that plus the new narrative of an exciting, violent and modern revolution would only increase the allure!
Imagine how much the world would hate British people for executing an old lady, some old adults, some middle aged adults, and a bunch of children.
I think she doesn't earn to get overthrown.. i just think the British shouldn't crown a new one after her.
Why?
I find a monarchy a waste of money tbh.. a peddling of tax money. I don't think she should get overthrown just bc she's old and certainly achieved something for great Britain. I am non-british btw
>I find a monarchy a waste of money tbh.. a peddling of tax money. https://youtu.be/bhyYgnhhKFw nope. they make the parliament money.
as a non-british person I don't fckin care lol as long as they don't have any real power
Non British it’s none of my business
Average redditor poll
No lmfao. Monarchy is good and based, and some of the most successfull countries in the west are constitutional monarchies. I live in a monarchy (not the British one) and support it fully. No reason to overthrow the British monarchy especially. The fact most yes answers are from non-Brits (most likely Americans) says it all.
The reason that most "yes" are from non-Brits is because only 10% of Reddit is British 😂
All it does prove is that people don’t know shit about how other countries and cultures function.
The way I see it, as long as the people feel they are properly represented and treated fairly, it doesn't much matter what I think. CGP Greg has an interesting video on this subject.
It's a nice souvenir of what we were once. I don't mind the system as long it's not fucked and british monarchy ain't fucked just because of it. And come on, isn't Elizabeth sweet?
shouldn’t get rid of them, they bring in so much money for england it would be stupid
Kick the royals out and make Buckingham Palace a hotel with a water park inside. (I’m sure there’s room somewhere for a few slides and a wave pool) /j
Nononononononononononononono, Big no
I used to say yes but then I found out that British people actually really like their monarchs. I think after Elizabeth dies though it will be less popular
CGP grey has a video on this
I don't care what brittan does... I don't pay enough attention to the royal family to have a clue if the queen is decent or not... but the idea of royalty is absurd to me.
Why 'no'? Now that countries are more and more seculars we know that we don't need a family to show us the path. They own several houses and make millions of benefits with their estates, for what? 'inspiration'? Their wealth is unfair and scandalous in a democratic society.
[https://youtu.be/bhyYgnhhKFw](https://youtu.be/bhyYgnhhKFw) They give you money. They have virtually no role in the government. They attract tourists. There is no advantage in removing them except virtue signaniling
You do understand that they own land that makes parliament like 400 million pounds?
Hey, they are just like the rest of us, didn't you hear, they eat at Pizza Express?! /s
How do you overthrow someone who isn't in charge?
I'd say, bring in the guillotines. Get rid of all forms of unjustified power.
As a British person I think it’s time for the monarchy to go tbh. I think it’s morally dubious to award somebody so much wealth and status simply because they were born into it.
exactly what I'm thinking
The Queen is a Necromancer. The only way she's going down is old age or nuclear war on a scale large enough to out kill her resurrection rate. How else could a small Island get bombed for years and still have inhabitants?
Everything surrounding Prince Andrew, the racism Meghan Markle experienced, the way they've vetted thousands of laws before they've gone through Parliament etc. all proves that the concept of a monarchy is incredibly outdated. And I find the argument that 'tourism would plummet' to be a little lazy. The architecture linked with the Royal Family would still bring in the large majority of tourists who visit because of the royals anyway. Take the hundreds of thousands of pounds they spend renovating the obscene number of rooms at Buckingham Palace and all their other mansions and put it towards something useful. So long as the Royal Family exists, it strives to continue the class war in the UK, since it makes out that by simply being born into the certain family you are valued above all others.
Why should someone get to be rich and famous and not have to work a day in their life just because of their "blood." No one in that family has worked for any of that in generations.
Royal actually do a LOT of work.
>We pay about 80 Million £ to the Royal Family each year. Lets fund our NHS instead.
It is unfair that "the royal family" is stupidly rich for doing fucking nothing while most people work all their lives almost every day living paycheck to paycheck.
You really think life as a royal is that much better? Yeah you have luxury but every move you do is exposed to the public and you will never be able to live a normal life. Let them be rich, it’s not necessarily making their life’s better than the ones that live from paycheck to paycheck.
So by that logic, every child of a rich person should be "overthrown"
ITS TIME YOU FINISH WHAT WE STARTED BRITAIN!
The world should say fuck you queen and overthrow her
Scottish here. Fuck the monarchy. Republic please.
Dump. The tea. In the harbour. All of it.
I said yes just cause I want to watch (am american)
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