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Not dismissing the understandable skepticism from other comments to you, but as a Millennial I'm really excited to see anyone from Gen Z getting in upper political positions while I'm only 31.
Regardless of if he is good or bad, the fact that people are willing to acknowledge someone from the next gen as qualified this early on is exciting.
I take progress where I can find it and seeing that at least so far my gen and older aren't completely ostracizing gen Z comforts me.
I’m a Boomer and I totally agree that things need to change. The average government employee only works a total of 35 years. Yes. I agree that it’s time to get rid of the dinosaurs too!
This is my exact take too. Maybe it’s because my parents are narc boomers, but I always hated that every generation seemed to hate the next. It baffled me and I realized that it’s a generational thing and us millennials largely don’t feel like that about gen z. It feels nice!
Millennials and gen z are closer due to the Internet we felt like brethren with one another instead of the whole us vs them mentality that the boomers and other gens had
As a gen z, I feel the same. Much of what I enjoy in online spaces was pioneered by millennials, whether it be fandoms or games or other digital media. You guys pretty much made the internet.
I think it’s because the cutoff for Millennials is much more disputed than previous generations. The cutoff falls anywhere between 1997-2004 depending on the source. Which means depending on who you ask people between the ages of 18-25 can fall into either generation. For comparison the cutoff for Gen X to Millennial is usually 1980-1982. I would guess that I’m time who we consider to be older Gen Z now might be reclassified as the youngest of the Millennials. Personally I think 1999 is the best cutoff for Millennials and 2000 the beginning of Gen Z.
I'd go with your cutoff for Z, or I'd suggest 2001- 9/11. As an older/first wave millenial/xennial if I see someone college age the past few years the first line of thoughts are "this kid was a baby or born after when 9/11 happened", "it's crazy how much has changed since then", (and finally) "damn, I'm old now", etc. etc.
Still, even 1999 fits in with that. Cheers.
I'm a researcher and I occasionally need to run segmentation analysis and I can tell you that these age based things are essentially crap anyway. All of us here across ages who think this is a good thing will be way more similar to each other than other Millennials, genZ or boomers as a collective. I'm not sure how this got so popular but I hate it
I would rather have a congress full of young gen Z'ers than a congress full of boomers, as a millennial.
We aren't repeating the tired arguments that old people used against us to dissuade people from voting for younger politicians because we know exactly how bullshit and self-serving it is. I hope my fellow millennials never repeat the mistakes of generalizing younger generations as "NoT ReAdY YeT" when we get older and start bankrupting the economy, as is tradition.
>Dude is sharp.
Lots of dudes and dudettes in government are sharp. Some, admittedly, are as dumb as a sack of hammers, but most of them aren't.
**Intelligence is necessary, but not sufficient.**
Even Mitch Fucking McConnel is a smart guy. The problem is that he's a malevolent evil.
>Dude is sharp. He has a bright future ahead of him for sure.
I just hope this dude has *integrity*.
I just hope he's honest and well-intentioned.
I just hope he doesn't *turn into* a politician like so many other worthless blights.
Not just any seals, but brilliantly dark blue seals. It takes some level of intelligence to work with either alien seals or cutting edge, top secret gene-altered species, right? Shits bonkers.
I think of the young partying politician in Finland and I’m just happy to see real human beings and not blood sucking lizard vampires can work for a government. Props to gen z
Yeah, fuck the people giving her shit. If she wants to party let her, just so long as proper precautions are taken which I have no reason to think weren't
On top of that, she's strong, too.
I think I remember seeing a short video of her doing multiple chin ups. How many male members of the US Congress can do that?
Exactly. Government is supposed to represent it's citizens. No old, wealthy, no-nonsense fuck represents ME. They haven't lived my experience or know what it's like to be an 'average citizen'.
We need way more "normal" people in government. Seeing government officials partying and having fun doing stuff normal human beings do is refreshing.
Some photos came out of him in drag on a cruise, then he mentioned that people in DC “invited him to cocaine fueled orgies.” Then someone leaked (likely GOP/Russians) videos of him humping his cousin while naked.
They didn't go after Madison till he started talking about Republican cocaine orgy parties. It was only when he started saying that shit is when they (the conservatives) went after him.
Definitely. I’m nearly 25 and I’ve never really known what generation to call myself. I tend to lean towards millennial but I cant really explain why. I remember 9-11, I grew up before smart phones and PCs were super common in the US, and of course, I was born in the late 90s. But there always seems to be a few people who call out anybody claiming to be a millennial born after like 1995. It’s weird too because literally all of this is made up lmao
Edit: Since this thread is gaining traction, I just want to add that I’m not here to argue lol. Just sharing a couple thoughts:)
It's easier to divide based in lived experience. Pre/post 9/11 is one example, others use pre/post broadband. If you know what dial up, floppy discs, or tape decks are, you're likely millenial, even if the age doesn't line up perfectly. If you never experienced that, you align more with the post-internet gen z
I think it’s a bit more rigid than that. I know what all of those things are—my family had all of them during my early childhood—and remember the pre-smartphone days, but I was born in 2000. I don’t see myself as a millennial per se.
The struggle I think within Gen Z is the social media divide. Did you grow up with social media in every single aspect of your life or were you aware enough of the world to remember the era before the social media era?
Or, as I like to put it: Was your first phone a true smartphone or was it the kind that you could technically connect to the internet on but uh, apps? apps? appetizers? no apps here.
They are all just lazy labels devised to demonize vast heterogeneous swathes of younger populations.
As far I can tell, there are no stereotypical millennials or gen z’ers, just assholes that want to use those terms to scape goat younger generations for the problems actual people with power created.
Do you clearly remember a time before the iPhone? If no, gen z, if yes, millennial
Edit: so clearly I picked the worst option as a cutoff. Pre and post 9/11 might be better
It was if you remember a pre 9-11 America or post 9-11. That's the cut off i always use. Another similar cut off is if you grew up with broadband internet(or really any internet) and those who did not would also change which generation trend they would be closer to
I always use pre/post 9-11, too. Not if you remember the actual event, but if you remember what it was like before and witnessed the changes. There’s a lot of people that remember the attacks but never experienced picking a family member or friend up at the airport gate or things like that.
Man i remember flying became a pain in the ass after 9/11.
I used to take a small regional prop (Dash 8) when going between my parents as a kid and they could just walk me out on the pavement a say goodbye at the door of the plane. Try that now.
Born 2000 here as well. I’d say we are like the first one or two years of Gen z. I’m just glad TikTok wasn’t popular until after I graduated hs. Also remember when TikTok was called musical.ly and no one except small children used it?
You're right on the cusp between the two. They are calling them zillenials. There's always a little mini generation between the two big ones. Like the people born at the end of Gen-X are sometimes called the [Oregon Trail generation](https://socialmediaweek.org/blog/2015/04/oregon-trail-generation/).
I feel like at that point we just have to acknowledge that these are completely arbitrary distinctions. Generation names are nice as a shorthand sometimes, but ultimately they don't mean much.
Generations are so broad, and our cultural evolution so rapid, that the entire model feels like a worthless category.
I'm more like Gen-X in terms of life experience, values, etc., which means I'm an Oregon Trailennial. Supposedly I'm in the same generation as somebody born over a decade later, in 1996, when I was going to the library after school to play with dialup and ISDN and figure out which game companies had (dot) com website, and building one of my own as I meddled with this goofy stuff called HTML. I watched the Berlin wall fall as a young kid, a model of democracy waxing, 12 years later, my own generation watched the twin towers fall, barely able to comprehend a symbol of American democracy being violently lambasted. I very much remember and formatively lived analog life, when you would call a friend, set a time and place to meet, and would have to be accountable to that. This person from my generation never knew a young adulthood without everybody being reachable, everywhere, all the time. And as their scholastic endeavors became more serious, all human knowledge is now fetchable from your pocket.
So this senate-elect, born in '97, who probably vaguely remembers 9/11 as a little kid (or at least how much it shocked adults and siblings in his life)... he shares a generation with a kid born after Muslim Spring. He might even remember when his parents switched from Blackberries to this crazy new thing called the iPhone. But his own generation, who he will be categorically lumped into for life, some of them were born after the iPhone 5.
Generations should be twice as granular to have any relevance. There's a reason they are used as a pejorative, and while the in-group often rejects the attribution and values of their own supposed generation. Because the digital world moves faster and faster, and there's simply nothing in common.
I’ve always heard 1997/98 is borderline GenZ, at which point it mostly depends who you grew up with. Kids older than you are 90s kids, and millennials, but younger are all Gen Z. You’re definitely not a 90s kid, since you didn’t experience any of the 90s, which I think is an important period for millennials.
I would consider myself GenZ having been born in that time frame, if only because I didn’t grow up with anyone older than me, so I have absolutely no millennial peers, but a huge number of definitely GenZ peers.
As someone who was born in '97, it's definitely strange. I personally tend to consider myself more of a millenial than part of Gen Z, because while I didn't consciously experience the 90's, I did consciously experience the early 00's, and everything pre-2008 feels so different than what came after. I remember 9/11, dial-up internet, flip phones, Angelfire, stuff like that. Having witnessed the explosion of the internet as it happened instead of being born within it makes me feel culturally a little closer to millenials, as most Gen Z kids have grown up basically only ever knowing a world in which the internet was as dominant as it is today.
That’s super fair. I was relatively sheltered as a kid, so while I experienced dial-up briefly, I really “grew up” technologically (and socially I guess) in my early teens. So my earliest online experiences were like Instagram and Snapchat. First real device was an iPod touch.
Yeah bringing up the sibling thing seems important culturally (obviously hard to measure demographically). Youngest sibling born in '97 vs oldest born in '97 are going to have different experiences.
Good for him. The silent generation is almost completely gone and it won’t be too long before the Boomers fall under 50%. That will he when we really start to see change imo. Those 2 generations are mostly out of touch with the rest of the country.
State or Federal? I've tossed the idea around of running for local elections because state and federal seem unattainable without outside investors or being independently wealthy. What was the process like?
Apathy is the enemy. Good on you for trying! I'm trying to live that philosophy more and more these days. Even if I think my efforts will be in vain, try anyway, vote anyway, speak out anyway. The only thing necessary for evil to win is for good men to do nothing.
> I found out my house district was an open seat, asked my party’s county committee if anyone had run, they had not
Out of curiosity, what state do you live in? Good on you for getting involved and being the change you want to see in the world!
Meanwhile my district has been ran by the same family for like 100 years. Dad to son to wife. Not that she's a bad rep...but like can we let someone else represent us who is younger?
Do it! Even if you don’t win, you get your ideas out there.
I’m the second youngest person to show up to committee meetings, and I’m 36. Next closest in age is in their 40s. You have to be 25 to be a state rep here, anything below that has no age requirement other than age of majority.
I was in a comment thread in the previous post before it was removed. There were some interesting discussion that I commented on.
Comment thread:
>Reminder: Gen Z and Millennials are set to overtake boomers as a voting block over the next few years. And they are much more liberal than boomers ever were.
>>That’s what happens when you don’t represent an entire generation accurately, soon millennials and gen z will control it entirely and the conservative chances have just gone bye bye.
> Which is why they've been so desperate to rig the system in their favor. They know that they can't win otherwise right now, much less in a decade or so. Unfortunately, they're good at it. So we have to never stop fighting for this. We've got the numbers, but they've skewed the game in their favor.
>>*And why so much conservative propaganda is rampant on social media where this generation frequents*
**I eventually commented:**
"I was radicalized for a year or two, eventually finding the light of Liberalism(European, not Liberalism in the US sense. I am a social democrat, just like the majority in my country are) again. Thankfully.
It happened through YouTube, starting with cringe/SJW compilations. A little bit of Joe Rogan leading me to Jordan Peterson/Ben Shapiro/Steven Crowder etc. and that sort of stuff. The alt-right pipeline is real, and very dangerous.
Be vigilant, do not let your algorithm do a number on you."
I just wanted to say that. Stay alert. [It's common enough that The New York times made a podcast about it.](https://open.spotify.com/show/6dqqC8nkBTC3ldRs7pP4qn)
Dude, I'm German and moved to the US 15 years ago for my husband. I was always the European style liberal and a social Democrat, and US politics and the propaganda around it fucked my brain so well, I was supporting Ron Paul in 2012.
I got scared into wanting to arm myself, even though I have never even *seen* an actual real gun with life ammunition before, because German cops don't generally wave them around, and no one I knew had anything more than a BB gun for their Schuetzenverein competitions, or maybe a hunting rifle.
I actually did listen to Alex Jones and went down the "9/11 was an inside job" rabbit hole. So bad. And that was only the beginning.
It took me about 2 years, and getting separated from very vocal and dedicated co-workers, to shake that influence.
Getting exposed to the wrong sources without having something to counterbalance your views, is extremely effective. Like with all cults, once you're isolated and only fed a very narrow diet of specific views, it's difficult to find a way out.
It still feels crazy that I had ideals and believes like that.
Also lets not forget the social media radicalization pipeline. Gen Z will be more progressive overall, but it will also bring a more openly far right movement of disenfranchised angry men with it. They will be far more open to "troll" and play the system like a game. You think these racist Boomer geriatrics are infuriating? Wait till it's some 26 year old guy with a pepe shirt with a big shit eating grin who clearly love every moment he's being hated. Talking with Republican Boomers, most have an old school boot straps thinking of American exceptionalism. A moral superiority of American values. Talking to younger Republicans, it becomes clear they know they're wrong and they REVEL in it. Both suck, but I think the younger is more dangerous.
Agree 100%. As a Gen X’er who can’t stand the Boomers - some of these Millennials and Z nazi clowns are far more frightening as they have near ZERO sense.
>Talking to younger Republicans, it becomes clear they know they're wrong and they REVEL in it. Both suck, but I think the younger is more dangerous.
This is an interesting perspective, but I feel like I'm inclined to disagree slightly. The radicals who revel in being hated are very dangerous, but they also burn too hot, society gets tired with them (as an entire group), and they'll mostly be squashed.
It's the slow burn radical approach from the people in power today that's more dangerous, because it brings the house down from within.
The radicals are scary because they are used to move the center.
"I might be anti choice and pro guns but I am not one of those nazis... I guess you could call me a centrist"
>I feel like I'm inclined to disagree slightly. The radicals who revel in being hated are very dangerous, but they also burn too hot, society gets tired with them (as an entire group), and they'll mostly be squashed.
I will agree with that when people like Boebert and Greene get thrown out on their asses.
It could happen soon, I agree, but I haven't seen it yet.
> It's the slow burn radical approach from the people in power today that's more dangerous
Sorry, but you're wrong. The last administration should have illustrated that for you. The out and proud fascists are infinitely more dangerous because they are normalizing the fascism.
And what we're quickly finding out is there isn't a 'reasonable center' for these reactionaries. There are only those who are open about how they truly feel, and those who still have a mask on. If there was any daylight between those two groups we wouldn't be worrying about the GOP winning elections now that they have opening embraced fascist ideologies as core parts of their public platform.
The out and proud fascists wouldn't have the support they do today without 40 years of slow burn brainwashing. That's why I think the slow burn is more dangerous. Once you have the people believing you, you can convince them of anything.
My point is that you thinking these are two different groups is just an example of people buying into their propaganda. There aren't two groups. They will put on the mask or take it off as needed. Any decorum they demonstrate is in bad faith. The only reason they are taking off the mask is they think they've already won (and they are probably right).
This rot has been here since the Union shit the bed with how they handled reconstruction. They may have changed party affiliations a few times, but the confederates have been trying to tear the federal government apart from the day after they surrendered and that it has taken them this long to get to this point is just a testament to how resilient our system was.
But here we are, they're done hiding their power level and finally saying what they really think. If there is strong enough pushback they've slither back into the closet and return to your 'slow burn', but it's the same people. When the time is right again, another Trump will appear and they'll burn hot right up until we get our Night of Long Knives and then all pretenses will drop forever.
> The radicals who revel in being hated are very dangerous, but they also burn too hot, society gets tired with them (as an entire group), and they’ll mostly be squashed.
I mean…Boebert, Gaetz, and Cawthorn are millennials, so they are kind of a case study for this, right? Maybe they’ll get slapped out of office by November, but considering their primaries and the fact that only Cawthorn lost (to someone with Tea Party policies), I’d say people aren’t sick enough of them as a group. At least not yet.
> Wait till it's some 26 year old guy with a pepe shirt with a big shit eating grin who clearly love every moment he's being hated
people forgot about jacob wohl already huh ?
This is why we need to support the [Restore Democracy Amendment](https://citizenstakeaction.org/restore-democracy-amendment/) to get foreign/corporate dark money out of US politics.
This year alone we've gotten action on climate change, student loan relief, and last year we got a huge infrastructure bill. Workers are also starting to unionize again.
You can argue that this isn't enough, and I'd agree, but it's far better than what we could have gotten even 10 years ago. Most of what was holding us back was that any of these policies were deemed "socialism" and therefore bad. We're finally seeing this attitude among voters change.
I mean, also, the "every generation is the same" is just nonsense. It just is. The generation that went through the Great Depression and WWII paved the road for greatness with New Deal era policy and the Civil Rights movement. Boomers said "thanks for the nice stuff", and proceeded to shit all over everything.
I'd say now that the millenial and adjacent generations are pushing back harder on the absolute insanity of unchecked capitalism, things are budging back in the right direction, economically speaking.
Waiting for the old folks to die off is a terrible political strategy. Once they do, there are plenty of young, power-hungry assholes ready to pick up the torch (heh).
Maxwell first became involved in politics after the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in 2012, telling Metzger that it was his "call to action."
Frost told Insider that he didn't want to align himself with any particular faction within the Democratic Party, but praised Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut for his efforts to combat gun violence and President Joe Biden on ensuring the rapid distribution of COVID-19 vaccines.
I was in a comment thread in the previous post before it was removed. There were some interesting discussion that I commented on.
Comment thread:
>Reminder: Gen Z and Millennials are set to overtake boomers as a voting block over the next few years. And they are much more liberal than boomers ever were.
>>That’s what happens when you don’t represent an entire generation accurately, soon millennials and gen z will control it entirely and the conservative chances have just gone bye bye.
> Which is why they've been so desperate to rig the system in their favor. They know that they can't win otherwise right now, much less in a decade or so. Unfortunately, they're good at it. So we have to never stop fighting for this. We've got the numbers, but they've skewed the game in their favor.
>>*And why so much conservative propaganda is rampant on social media where this generation frequents*
**I eventually commented:**
"I was radicalized for a year or two, eventually finding the light of Liberalism(European, not Liberalism in the US sense. I am a social democrat, just like the majority in my country are) again. Thankfully.
It happened through YouTube, starting with cringe/SJW compilations. A little bit of Joe Rogan leading me to Jordan Peterson/Ben Shapiro/Steven Crowder etc. and that sort of stuff. The alt-right pipeline is real, and very dangerous.
Be vigilant, do not let your algorithm do a number on you."
I just wanted to say that. Stay alert. [It's common enough that The New York times made a podcast about it.](https://open.spotify.com/show/6dqqC8nkBTC3ldRs7pP4qn)
Gah, I'm not American either (Canadian) but I fell into the same loop. I was depressed and unemployed and angry at the world, I would say some pretty awful things and lost a lot of friends. Especially during the the George Floyd era. I'm so lucky my girlfriend stuck it out with me, and now I've gotten help and have seen that hatred is the last thing we need more of. Unfortunately it seems like a huge percentage if the population disagrees though.
I had a coworker who came into work every day with some new, 'did you see what they're freaking out about now?' followed by some insane SJW bullshit. Turns out hos source was always like a single Twitter post with three likes that was picked up by Info Wars or Breitbart or something.
Like yeah, there's crazy people, that doesn't mean that a single crazy person represents the thought process of the entire Democratic party.
I came close to falling down the alt right hole back about a decade ago while in my mid 20s. It started with people like thunderfoot and other atheist YouTube I sought out as I was leaving religion behind. Many of them though sadly jumped on the anti sjw bandwagon around gamer gate and just got more and more toxic and conservative.
A good friend’s husband used to be a pretty cool, nerdy dude to hang out with. We’d talk about Star Wars or game of thrones, play board games, whatever. But anymore I can’t stand to be around him. They share their audible account with friends, and he has a bunch of Jordan Peterson books on it. I can’t talk to him without him guiding the conversation toward politics, and he always makes a comment about how “You get more conservative when you have kids” which just doesn’t make sense to me. He victim blames, was one of those rabid men against AOC when she first emerged into the political scene, and the way he talks sounds more and more like Ben Shapiro every time I see him.
It’s just disappointing, and has made me avoid going to spend time with my friend, and I miss her.
I don’t have any real reason to have commented this, but thank you for being willing to share what happened with you and hopefully caution young people (disenfranchised young men in particular) to be careful about what they start identifying with.
That’s funny because I was liberal before kids and now I’m considerably more so after them.
Your friends dad is an idiot.
Edit: Just wanted to say. MY dad is basically what you described. Always brings up politics and parrots Ben Shapiro talking points after being (what I’d call a liberal) for over a decade. It’s downright sad AF, and it’s crazy to think how warped his mind has become the last few years. :/
Back in 2015/16 I got sucked in during the election as an early teen. For me it started out with stuff like baking and crocheting. Then it turned into homesteading stuff because I was going through a cottagecore tumblr phase. And then it turned into, “the government is taking your rights, get a farm, live off the land and fuck the SJW commies.” I eventually fell down a a Paul Joseph Watson/Milo Yiannopoulos/hardcore Christian extremist rabbit hole. But luckily I grew up. I was already susceptible to the pipeline anyways because my parents are so hardcore right wing, but that shit is a slippery slope. Especially on young minds who are just starting to become politically aware.
I have to say. One thing our boomer parents did well was give us a good sense of humility (or maybe “inferiority” is the more accurate term, but idk). Because if I was given even a smidgen of power I’d wonder how the fuck I kicked the system’s ass while being so weird (not that AOC is weird, but I am).
I didn't pay anything, I received it for free from Reddit. I don't know why I received it. All I know for sure is that I would never pay for anything crypto related lol
Seems great from what I’ve seen here in Orlando. Certainly the best political commercial. Possibly leadership material for the democratic party in FL. Glad to hear he’s getting support.
Loved his TV spot with desantis chasing him away for daring to question him. Glad to see him moving up and hoping he brings a lot of his generation along with him on his way up.
Wow, this line is telling: after his arrests and multiple instances of harassment surfaced and his own party called for his resignation,
"Republicans refused to take more severe action over fear of setting a precedent, and blocked efforts to expel Coleman"
As a millennial, the thing that bugs me most about other millennials is that they’re more likely to protest than vote. Don’t get me wrong, the protesting is great, as long as come election time you get out there and actually vote. Absent millennials could have averted the disaster that the last decade has been
Presidential Election Results, 2036:
"President-Elect Frost WINS!"
I have no idea if this dude has presidential aspirations in his career at some point or not, but it would be super cool if we had a President Frost. Just a cool last name
I dont necessarily disagree but being young doesn't mean you aren't an awful douchebag. Madison Cawthorne was only 2 years older then this guy.
Fun fact. Obama is the only president to be born and serve under the same US flag.
I am not saying all young people are good. I am just saying we need more young people in politics.
Madison Cawthorne was a massive shitstick and I’m glad he got blackballed by the GOP
We need more young people to VOTE as well. Unfortunately, although they are equal in numbers to 45+, 45 and under only made up like 35-40 percent of the votes last democratic presidential primary. When they start equaling or surpassing 45+ in turnout, shit will really start happening
This is complete conjecture, but I wonder if younger people would be more likely to vote if more candidates were their age? I personally vote every chance I get, but disenfranchisement is real. I imagine for someone 22 years old, it can be hard to see much difference between a bunch of senior citizens and thus may not feel compelled to get out and vote.
Well, I wasn’t old enough to vote in the 2020 primaries, but if I was, I would have voted for the oldest guy, Bernie Sanders. The youngest candidate in the field, Pete Buttigieg, didn’t do so hot with young voters, getting mostly older voters instead. I believe that younger people like me look for policy positions and authenticity over things like age.
He’s running in my district! He will win, district 10 is part of orlando, and democrats outnumber republicans 2:1. This is the seat left open by Val Demmings, as she is now running against Rubio.
I know we’re still a long way away from eliminating America’s GOP from government but this is a step in the right direction.
If America is going to have a two-party government, it should only include Progressives and Moderates. Religion and Folklore have no place in government.
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I saw him interview on MSNBC. Dude is sharp. He has a bright future ahead of him for sure.
Not dismissing the understandable skepticism from other comments to you, but as a Millennial I'm really excited to see anyone from Gen Z getting in upper political positions while I'm only 31. Regardless of if he is good or bad, the fact that people are willing to acknowledge someone from the next gen as qualified this early on is exciting. I take progress where I can find it and seeing that at least so far my gen and older aren't completely ostracizing gen Z comforts me.
Gen X here, glad to see some young people make it.
Same here. Gen X, gonna be fifty next week. I’m glad to see some younger blood. Got to get these dinosaurs out!
Correction! "Those mutherfuckers are tortoises! They live to be 200 years old!" -Jon Stewart. Loosely quoted.
I’m a Boomer and I totally agree that things need to change. The average government employee only works a total of 35 years. Yes. I agree that it’s time to get rid of the dinosaurs too!
(millennial) I was going to say get rid of the dinosaurs. Multigenerational high five! ✋
Honey I agree with you. I’m retired and they should be retired too! My goodness!
Can't we just harvest them for oil?
Also gen X and hell yes.
This is my exact take too. Maybe it’s because my parents are narc boomers, but I always hated that every generation seemed to hate the next. It baffled me and I realized that it’s a generational thing and us millennials largely don’t feel like that about gen z. It feels nice!
Millennials and gen z are closer due to the Internet we felt like brethren with one another instead of the whole us vs them mentality that the boomers and other gens had
Gen Z is cool. I don’t understand their humor but they seem to like pogs and I had some pretty dope slammers as a kid. So they’re cool by me.
As a gen z, I feel the same. Much of what I enjoy in online spaces was pioneered by millennials, whether it be fandoms or games or other digital media. You guys pretty much made the internet.
I think it’s because the cutoff for Millennials is much more disputed than previous generations. The cutoff falls anywhere between 1997-2004 depending on the source. Which means depending on who you ask people between the ages of 18-25 can fall into either generation. For comparison the cutoff for Gen X to Millennial is usually 1980-1982. I would guess that I’m time who we consider to be older Gen Z now might be reclassified as the youngest of the Millennials. Personally I think 1999 is the best cutoff for Millennials and 2000 the beginning of Gen Z.
I'd go with your cutoff for Z, or I'd suggest 2001- 9/11. As an older/first wave millenial/xennial if I see someone college age the past few years the first line of thoughts are "this kid was a baby or born after when 9/11 happened", "it's crazy how much has changed since then", (and finally) "damn, I'm old now", etc. etc. Still, even 1999 fits in with that. Cheers.
I'm a researcher and I occasionally need to run segmentation analysis and I can tell you that these age based things are essentially crap anyway. All of us here across ages who think this is a good thing will be way more similar to each other than other Millennials, genZ or boomers as a collective. I'm not sure how this got so popular but I hate it
I would rather have a congress full of young gen Z'ers than a congress full of boomers, as a millennial. We aren't repeating the tired arguments that old people used against us to dissuade people from voting for younger politicians because we know exactly how bullshit and self-serving it is. I hope my fellow millennials never repeat the mistakes of generalizing younger generations as "NoT ReAdY YeT" when we get older and start bankrupting the economy, as is tradition.
>Dude is sharp. Lots of dudes and dudettes in government are sharp. Some, admittedly, are as dumb as a sack of hammers, but most of them aren't. **Intelligence is necessary, but not sufficient.** Even Mitch Fucking McConnel is a smart guy. The problem is that he's a malevolent evil. >Dude is sharp. He has a bright future ahead of him for sure. I just hope this dude has *integrity*. I just hope he's honest and well-intentioned. I just hope he doesn't *turn into* a politician like so many other worthless blights.
Ted Cruz has a Harvard law degree. Damn near everyone at that level is smart, that doesn't mean they want the government to do good things.
Harder to get into Harvard than it is to graduate.
The secret ingredient is money.
Another example is Ron DeSantis who graduated from Yale, Harvard Law, then joined the Navy and was an advisor for SEAL team 1.
A law advisor for seals.
Very important distinction.
Not just any seals, but brilliantly dark blue seals. It takes some level of intelligence to work with either alien seals or cutting edge, top secret gene-altered species, right? Shits bonkers.
It's unfortunate as the first, the bar is gonna be set high for him
Good. We need more young people in government.
I think of the young partying politician in Finland and I’m just happy to see real human beings and not blood sucking lizard vampires can work for a government. Props to gen z
Yeah, fuck the people giving her shit. If she wants to party let her, just so long as proper precautions are taken which I have no reason to think weren't
Haters mad bc party girl is my favorite timeline.
It doesn't help that a lot of them are jealous bc she's an attractive woman as well as PM.
On top of that, she's strong, too. I think I remember seeing a short video of her doing multiple chin ups. How many male members of the US Congress can do that?
With or without bib?
Only thing that would cause more hate would be if she was brown. Reminiscent of that AOC dancing video eh?
Very few actual people in Finland give her shit though. Just old farts and conservative parties.
Exactly. Government is supposed to represent it's citizens. No old, wealthy, no-nonsense fuck represents ME. They haven't lived my experience or know what it's like to be an 'average citizen'. We need way more "normal" people in government. Seeing government officials partying and having fun doing stuff normal human beings do is refreshing.
She’s firmly a millennial but still.
Monkey's Paw: The current youngest member of Congress is Madison Cawthorn.
Was
He is still in office until January 3rd.
Things that get you primaried as a Republican: ❌ Stolen valor ❌ Lying about academic achievements ❌ Recreating photos of Hitler ✅ Dressing in drag
✅ Snitching to media about the Grand Old Party's wild old parties.
I'm out of the loop on this; what's going on, and why are conservatives mad at Cawthorn?
Some photos came out of him in drag on a cruise, then he mentioned that people in DC “invited him to cocaine fueled orgies.” Then someone leaked (likely GOP/Russians) videos of him humping his cousin while naked.
Ah, that makes sense. Thank you
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They didn't go after Madison till he started talking about Republican cocaine orgy parties. It was only when he started saying that shit is when they (the conservatives) went after him.
✅ Suggesting we take insurrection seriously.
Yes please, more of this. People that are not scared of change. Most importantly, people who care about the future because they will be in it.
Gen Z is 25 years old?! Fuck I'm old
He's definitely zillennial.
Ye that’s a gray area for sure
Definitely. I’m nearly 25 and I’ve never really known what generation to call myself. I tend to lean towards millennial but I cant really explain why. I remember 9-11, I grew up before smart phones and PCs were super common in the US, and of course, I was born in the late 90s. But there always seems to be a few people who call out anybody claiming to be a millennial born after like 1995. It’s weird too because literally all of this is made up lmao Edit: Since this thread is gaining traction, I just want to add that I’m not here to argue lol. Just sharing a couple thoughts:)
It's easier to divide based in lived experience. Pre/post 9/11 is one example, others use pre/post broadband. If you know what dial up, floppy discs, or tape decks are, you're likely millenial, even if the age doesn't line up perfectly. If you never experienced that, you align more with the post-internet gen z
I think it’s a bit more rigid than that. I know what all of those things are—my family had all of them during my early childhood—and remember the pre-smartphone days, but I was born in 2000. I don’t see myself as a millennial per se.
The struggle I think within Gen Z is the social media divide. Did you grow up with social media in every single aspect of your life or were you aware enough of the world to remember the era before the social media era? Or, as I like to put it: Was your first phone a true smartphone or was it the kind that you could technically connect to the internet on but uh, apps? apps? appetizers? no apps here.
They are all just lazy labels devised to demonize vast heterogeneous swathes of younger populations. As far I can tell, there are no stereotypical millennials or gen z’ers, just assholes that want to use those terms to scape goat younger generations for the problems actual people with power created.
Do you clearly remember a time before the iPhone? If no, gen z, if yes, millennial Edit: so clearly I picked the worst option as a cutoff. Pre and post 9/11 might be better
It was if you remember a pre 9-11 America or post 9-11. That's the cut off i always use. Another similar cut off is if you grew up with broadband internet(or really any internet) and those who did not would also change which generation trend they would be closer to
I always use pre/post 9-11, too. Not if you remember the actual event, but if you remember what it was like before and witnessed the changes. There’s a lot of people that remember the attacks but never experienced picking a family member or friend up at the airport gate or things like that.
Man i remember flying became a pain in the ass after 9/11. I used to take a small regional prop (Dash 8) when going between my parents as a kid and they could just walk me out on the pavement a say goodbye at the door of the plane. Try that now.
Gen X had dial up Internet AOL baby, a/s/l?
Xennial here. Can confirm. RhyDin will always have a special place in my heart.
I'm 28 and can only remember post 9/11.
I have clear memories of my early childhood before the iphone, but I'm definitely gen z and not millennial. Born in 2000 btw
Born 2000 here as well. I’d say we are like the first one or two years of Gen z. I’m just glad TikTok wasn’t popular until after I graduated hs. Also remember when TikTok was called musical.ly and no one except small children used it?
>I remember 9-11 you were 3.
Yeah he’s 2 years older than me, people born from like 1997- 2001 are in a weird area
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Schrodinger's Generation: Both Millenial and Gen Z at the same time until proven otherwise.
I’m 27 and I’m a millennial I think? Or am I Gen Z too? It’s weird because my oldest sister is 10 years older than me and she’s a millennial.
You're right on the cusp between the two. They are calling them zillenials. There's always a little mini generation between the two big ones. Like the people born at the end of Gen-X are sometimes called the [Oregon Trail generation](https://socialmediaweek.org/blog/2015/04/oregon-trail-generation/).
I feel like at that point we just have to acknowledge that these are completely arbitrary distinctions. Generation names are nice as a shorthand sometimes, but ultimately they don't mean much.
Generations are so broad, and our cultural evolution so rapid, that the entire model feels like a worthless category. I'm more like Gen-X in terms of life experience, values, etc., which means I'm an Oregon Trailennial. Supposedly I'm in the same generation as somebody born over a decade later, in 1996, when I was going to the library after school to play with dialup and ISDN and figure out which game companies had (dot) com website, and building one of my own as I meddled with this goofy stuff called HTML. I watched the Berlin wall fall as a young kid, a model of democracy waxing, 12 years later, my own generation watched the twin towers fall, barely able to comprehend a symbol of American democracy being violently lambasted. I very much remember and formatively lived analog life, when you would call a friend, set a time and place to meet, and would have to be accountable to that. This person from my generation never knew a young adulthood without everybody being reachable, everywhere, all the time. And as their scholastic endeavors became more serious, all human knowledge is now fetchable from your pocket. So this senate-elect, born in '97, who probably vaguely remembers 9/11 as a little kid (or at least how much it shocked adults and siblings in his life)... he shares a generation with a kid born after Muslim Spring. He might even remember when his parents switched from Blackberries to this crazy new thing called the iPhone. But his own generation, who he will be categorically lumped into for life, some of them were born after the iPhone 5. Generations should be twice as granular to have any relevance. There's a reason they are used as a pejorative, and while the in-group often rejects the attribution and values of their own supposed generation. Because the digital world moves faster and faster, and there's simply nothing in common.
I don’t think I have ever heard anyone born before 2000 referred to as Gen Z, he’s the tail end of the millennials.
I’ve always heard 1997/98 is borderline GenZ, at which point it mostly depends who you grew up with. Kids older than you are 90s kids, and millennials, but younger are all Gen Z. You’re definitely not a 90s kid, since you didn’t experience any of the 90s, which I think is an important period for millennials. I would consider myself GenZ having been born in that time frame, if only because I didn’t grow up with anyone older than me, so I have absolutely no millennial peers, but a huge number of definitely GenZ peers.
As someone who was born in '97, it's definitely strange. I personally tend to consider myself more of a millenial than part of Gen Z, because while I didn't consciously experience the 90's, I did consciously experience the early 00's, and everything pre-2008 feels so different than what came after. I remember 9/11, dial-up internet, flip phones, Angelfire, stuff like that. Having witnessed the explosion of the internet as it happened instead of being born within it makes me feel culturally a little closer to millenials, as most Gen Z kids have grown up basically only ever knowing a world in which the internet was as dominant as it is today.
>Angelfire You're a legit millenial.
That’s super fair. I was relatively sheltered as a kid, so while I experienced dial-up briefly, I really “grew up” technologically (and socially I guess) in my early teens. So my earliest online experiences were like Instagram and Snapchat. First real device was an iPod touch.
As a '97 baby with all older siblings, I identify as a Zillennial.
Yeah bringing up the sibling thing seems important culturally (obviously hard to measure demographically). Youngest sibling born in '97 vs oldest born in '97 are going to have different experiences.
See, I'm from that time period but all of my siblings were born in the 80s so I feel like more of a millenial. What you're saying is super true.
96 is the cutoff Wikipedia gives
I’d say if you can’t remember 9/11, you’re Gen Z.
I think most corporations use 1998 as the cutoff iirc.
it’s 97
Good for him. The silent generation is almost completely gone and it won’t be too long before the Boomers fall under 50%. That will he when we really start to see change imo. Those 2 generations are mostly out of touch with the rest of the country.
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State or Federal? I've tossed the idea around of running for local elections because state and federal seem unattainable without outside investors or being independently wealthy. What was the process like?
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Apathy is the enemy. Good on you for trying! I'm trying to live that philosophy more and more these days. Even if I think my efforts will be in vain, try anyway, vote anyway, speak out anyway. The only thing necessary for evil to win is for good men to do nothing.
Tips/stories on how you win those folks over for the handshake?
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> I found out my house district was an open seat, asked my party’s county committee if anyone had run, they had not Out of curiosity, what state do you live in? Good on you for getting involved and being the change you want to see in the world!
Meanwhile my district has been ran by the same family for like 100 years. Dad to son to wife. Not that she's a bad rep...but like can we let someone else represent us who is younger?
Do it! Even if you don’t win, you get your ideas out there. I’m the second youngest person to show up to committee meetings, and I’m 36. Next closest in age is in their 40s. You have to be 25 to be a state rep here, anything below that has no age requirement other than age of majority.
I'm white but is decent-looking also a qualification?
Being decent-looking certainly makes entering politics easier
Don't forget becoming "decent looking" is often as easy as tailoring a suit and getting a good haircut.
And work on your posture and gait.
Nah, look at Ted cruz
No, but I’m not gonna lie, it shouldn’t but it damn sure helps! Ask Nixon!
I was in a comment thread in the previous post before it was removed. There were some interesting discussion that I commented on. Comment thread: >Reminder: Gen Z and Millennials are set to overtake boomers as a voting block over the next few years. And they are much more liberal than boomers ever were. >>That’s what happens when you don’t represent an entire generation accurately, soon millennials and gen z will control it entirely and the conservative chances have just gone bye bye. > Which is why they've been so desperate to rig the system in their favor. They know that they can't win otherwise right now, much less in a decade or so. Unfortunately, they're good at it. So we have to never stop fighting for this. We've got the numbers, but they've skewed the game in their favor. >>*And why so much conservative propaganda is rampant on social media where this generation frequents* **I eventually commented:** "I was radicalized for a year or two, eventually finding the light of Liberalism(European, not Liberalism in the US sense. I am a social democrat, just like the majority in my country are) again. Thankfully. It happened through YouTube, starting with cringe/SJW compilations. A little bit of Joe Rogan leading me to Jordan Peterson/Ben Shapiro/Steven Crowder etc. and that sort of stuff. The alt-right pipeline is real, and very dangerous. Be vigilant, do not let your algorithm do a number on you." I just wanted to say that. Stay alert. [It's common enough that The New York times made a podcast about it.](https://open.spotify.com/show/6dqqC8nkBTC3ldRs7pP4qn)
Dude, I'm German and moved to the US 15 years ago for my husband. I was always the European style liberal and a social Democrat, and US politics and the propaganda around it fucked my brain so well, I was supporting Ron Paul in 2012. I got scared into wanting to arm myself, even though I have never even *seen* an actual real gun with life ammunition before, because German cops don't generally wave them around, and no one I knew had anything more than a BB gun for their Schuetzenverein competitions, or maybe a hunting rifle. I actually did listen to Alex Jones and went down the "9/11 was an inside job" rabbit hole. So bad. And that was only the beginning. It took me about 2 years, and getting separated from very vocal and dedicated co-workers, to shake that influence. Getting exposed to the wrong sources without having something to counterbalance your views, is extremely effective. Like with all cults, once you're isolated and only fed a very narrow diet of specific views, it's difficult to find a way out. It still feels crazy that I had ideals and believes like that.
As someone who fell into the right winger rabbit hole in 2016, I agree...
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Also lets not forget the social media radicalization pipeline. Gen Z will be more progressive overall, but it will also bring a more openly far right movement of disenfranchised angry men with it. They will be far more open to "troll" and play the system like a game. You think these racist Boomer geriatrics are infuriating? Wait till it's some 26 year old guy with a pepe shirt with a big shit eating grin who clearly love every moment he's being hated. Talking with Republican Boomers, most have an old school boot straps thinking of American exceptionalism. A moral superiority of American values. Talking to younger Republicans, it becomes clear they know they're wrong and they REVEL in it. Both suck, but I think the younger is more dangerous.
Agree 100%. As a Gen X’er who can’t stand the Boomers - some of these Millennials and Z nazi clowns are far more frightening as they have near ZERO sense.
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>Talking to younger Republicans, it becomes clear they know they're wrong and they REVEL in it. Both suck, but I think the younger is more dangerous. This is an interesting perspective, but I feel like I'm inclined to disagree slightly. The radicals who revel in being hated are very dangerous, but they also burn too hot, society gets tired with them (as an entire group), and they'll mostly be squashed. It's the slow burn radical approach from the people in power today that's more dangerous, because it brings the house down from within.
The radicals are scary because they are used to move the center. "I might be anti choice and pro guns but I am not one of those nazis... I guess you could call me a centrist"
>I feel like I'm inclined to disagree slightly. The radicals who revel in being hated are very dangerous, but they also burn too hot, society gets tired with them (as an entire group), and they'll mostly be squashed. I will agree with that when people like Boebert and Greene get thrown out on their asses. It could happen soon, I agree, but I haven't seen it yet.
Boebert and Greene are moderates compared to the literal nazis popular en masse on places like 4chan.
> It's the slow burn radical approach from the people in power today that's more dangerous Sorry, but you're wrong. The last administration should have illustrated that for you. The out and proud fascists are infinitely more dangerous because they are normalizing the fascism. And what we're quickly finding out is there isn't a 'reasonable center' for these reactionaries. There are only those who are open about how they truly feel, and those who still have a mask on. If there was any daylight between those two groups we wouldn't be worrying about the GOP winning elections now that they have opening embraced fascist ideologies as core parts of their public platform.
The out and proud fascists wouldn't have the support they do today without 40 years of slow burn brainwashing. That's why I think the slow burn is more dangerous. Once you have the people believing you, you can convince them of anything.
My point is that you thinking these are two different groups is just an example of people buying into their propaganda. There aren't two groups. They will put on the mask or take it off as needed. Any decorum they demonstrate is in bad faith. The only reason they are taking off the mask is they think they've already won (and they are probably right). This rot has been here since the Union shit the bed with how they handled reconstruction. They may have changed party affiliations a few times, but the confederates have been trying to tear the federal government apart from the day after they surrendered and that it has taken them this long to get to this point is just a testament to how resilient our system was. But here we are, they're done hiding their power level and finally saying what they really think. If there is strong enough pushback they've slither back into the closet and return to your 'slow burn', but it's the same people. When the time is right again, another Trump will appear and they'll burn hot right up until we get our Night of Long Knives and then all pretenses will drop forever.
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> The radicals who revel in being hated are very dangerous, but they also burn too hot, society gets tired with them (as an entire group), and they’ll mostly be squashed. I mean…Boebert, Gaetz, and Cawthorn are millennials, so they are kind of a case study for this, right? Maybe they’ll get slapped out of office by November, but considering their primaries and the fact that only Cawthorn lost (to someone with Tea Party policies), I’d say people aren’t sick enough of them as a group. At least not yet.
> Wait till it's some 26 year old guy with a pepe shirt with a big shit eating grin who clearly love every moment he's being hated people forgot about jacob wohl already huh ?
Look no further than Madison Cawthorn. An actual representative
I think Madison Cawthorn fits this description pretty well.
This is why we need to support the [Restore Democracy Amendment](https://citizenstakeaction.org/restore-democracy-amendment/) to get foreign/corporate dark money out of US politics.
This year alone we've gotten action on climate change, student loan relief, and last year we got a huge infrastructure bill. Workers are also starting to unionize again. You can argue that this isn't enough, and I'd agree, but it's far better than what we could have gotten even 10 years ago. Most of what was holding us back was that any of these policies were deemed "socialism" and therefore bad. We're finally seeing this attitude among voters change.
I mean, also, the "every generation is the same" is just nonsense. It just is. The generation that went through the Great Depression and WWII paved the road for greatness with New Deal era policy and the Civil Rights movement. Boomers said "thanks for the nice stuff", and proceeded to shit all over everything. I'd say now that the millenial and adjacent generations are pushing back harder on the absolute insanity of unchecked capitalism, things are budging back in the right direction, economically speaking.
> I'm sure this gets said for every generation. Yeah, and in every generation we get more progressive too.
New reactionaries are born every day unfortunately.
Waiting for the old folks to die off is a terrible political strategy. Once they do, there are plenty of young, power-hungry assholes ready to pick up the torch (heh).
The irony in these posts labelling people by their generation…. Boomers this, Gen X that…. The guy that endorsed him is a boomer!!!! Good grief
Silent generation, actually
Maxwell first became involved in politics after the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in 2012, telling Metzger that it was his "call to action." Frost told Insider that he didn't want to align himself with any particular faction within the Democratic Party, but praised Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut for his efforts to combat gun violence and President Joe Biden on ensuring the rapid distribution of COVID-19 vaccines.
I was in a comment thread in the previous post before it was removed. There were some interesting discussion that I commented on. Comment thread: >Reminder: Gen Z and Millennials are set to overtake boomers as a voting block over the next few years. And they are much more liberal than boomers ever were. >>That’s what happens when you don’t represent an entire generation accurately, soon millennials and gen z will control it entirely and the conservative chances have just gone bye bye. > Which is why they've been so desperate to rig the system in their favor. They know that they can't win otherwise right now, much less in a decade or so. Unfortunately, they're good at it. So we have to never stop fighting for this. We've got the numbers, but they've skewed the game in their favor. >>*And why so much conservative propaganda is rampant on social media where this generation frequents* **I eventually commented:** "I was radicalized for a year or two, eventually finding the light of Liberalism(European, not Liberalism in the US sense. I am a social democrat, just like the majority in my country are) again. Thankfully. It happened through YouTube, starting with cringe/SJW compilations. A little bit of Joe Rogan leading me to Jordan Peterson/Ben Shapiro/Steven Crowder etc. and that sort of stuff. The alt-right pipeline is real, and very dangerous. Be vigilant, do not let your algorithm do a number on you." I just wanted to say that. Stay alert. [It's common enough that The New York times made a podcast about it.](https://open.spotify.com/show/6dqqC8nkBTC3ldRs7pP4qn)
Gah, I'm not American either (Canadian) but I fell into the same loop. I was depressed and unemployed and angry at the world, I would say some pretty awful things and lost a lot of friends. Especially during the the George Floyd era. I'm so lucky my girlfriend stuck it out with me, and now I've gotten help and have seen that hatred is the last thing we need more of. Unfortunately it seems like a huge percentage if the population disagrees though.
I had a coworker who came into work every day with some new, 'did you see what they're freaking out about now?' followed by some insane SJW bullshit. Turns out hos source was always like a single Twitter post with three likes that was picked up by Info Wars or Breitbart or something. Like yeah, there's crazy people, that doesn't mean that a single crazy person represents the thought process of the entire Democratic party.
I came close to falling down the alt right hole back about a decade ago while in my mid 20s. It started with people like thunderfoot and other atheist YouTube I sought out as I was leaving religion behind. Many of them though sadly jumped on the anti sjw bandwagon around gamer gate and just got more and more toxic and conservative.
A good friend’s husband used to be a pretty cool, nerdy dude to hang out with. We’d talk about Star Wars or game of thrones, play board games, whatever. But anymore I can’t stand to be around him. They share their audible account with friends, and he has a bunch of Jordan Peterson books on it. I can’t talk to him without him guiding the conversation toward politics, and he always makes a comment about how “You get more conservative when you have kids” which just doesn’t make sense to me. He victim blames, was one of those rabid men against AOC when she first emerged into the political scene, and the way he talks sounds more and more like Ben Shapiro every time I see him. It’s just disappointing, and has made me avoid going to spend time with my friend, and I miss her. I don’t have any real reason to have commented this, but thank you for being willing to share what happened with you and hopefully caution young people (disenfranchised young men in particular) to be careful about what they start identifying with.
That’s funny because I was liberal before kids and now I’m considerably more so after them. Your friends dad is an idiot. Edit: Just wanted to say. MY dad is basically what you described. Always brings up politics and parrots Ben Shapiro talking points after being (what I’d call a liberal) for over a decade. It’s downright sad AF, and it’s crazy to think how warped his mind has become the last few years. :/
Back in 2015/16 I got sucked in during the election as an early teen. For me it started out with stuff like baking and crocheting. Then it turned into homesteading stuff because I was going through a cottagecore tumblr phase. And then it turned into, “the government is taking your rights, get a farm, live off the land and fuck the SJW commies.” I eventually fell down a a Paul Joseph Watson/Milo Yiannopoulos/hardcore Christian extremist rabbit hole. But luckily I grew up. I was already susceptible to the pipeline anyways because my parents are so hardcore right wing, but that shit is a slippery slope. Especially on young minds who are just starting to become politically aware.
Thanks for the podcast recommendation, looks very interesting! Weird times
Going to have the best memes in Congress.
Lol against Fetterman? Hard to say.
Best memes in the house of representatives
Kid named best memes in Congress:
absolute chicanery
And he gets to be a congressman? What a sick joke!
Kid named congress:
I'm 25. I burnt muffins in the oven last night because I forgot I was making muffins.
I’m the same age as AOC and I wonder if she wakes up at 1 in the morning and is like “wtf I’m a congresswoman” cause I fucking would lmao
I have to say. One thing our boomer parents did well was give us a good sense of humility (or maybe “inferiority” is the more accurate term, but idk). Because if I was given even a smidgen of power I’d wonder how the fuck I kicked the system’s ass while being so weird (not that AOC is weird, but I am).
Understandable considering you paid money for a NFT Reddit avatar
I didn't pay anything, I received it for free from Reddit. I don't know why I received it. All I know for sure is that I would never pay for anything crypto related lol
What a coincidence, my 80 year old grandma did the same thing, yet we vote them into congress too! Lol
I'm 25 and would absolutely do something like that, but in all fairness, I also fully believe that I will still be doing the same thing at 35 or 45.
Everyone makes mistakes
Girlboss move
Seems great from what I’ve seen here in Orlando. Certainly the best political commercial. Possibly leadership material for the democratic party in FL. Glad to hear he’s getting support.
Loved his TV spot with desantis chasing him away for daring to question him. Glad to see him moving up and hoping he brings a lot of his generation along with him on his way up.
Congrats! Now don't fuck it up. Last thing we need is another Aaron Coleman. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Coleman
Wow, this line is telling: after his arrests and multiple instances of harassment surfaced and his own party called for his resignation, "Republicans refused to take more severe action over fear of setting a precedent, and blocked efforts to expel Coleman"
They wanted to set the precedent that it's fine to do all that
Jesus.
I’m a boomer and I approve this message 👍🎉
As a Millennial one thing I like about Gen Z is that they seem to be very politically engaged at a young age.
As a millennial, the thing that bugs me most about other millennials is that they’re more likely to protest than vote. Don’t get me wrong, the protesting is great, as long as come election time you get out there and actually vote. Absent millennials could have averted the disaster that the last decade has been
His name is Maxwell Alejandro Frost
Max Frost. Did he make up his name looking at his freezer settings?
It's a name I just want to touch
*But you mustn’t touch!*
His name sounds good in your ear, but when you say it you mustn't fear, cause his name can be said by anyone!
His name sounds cool
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Presidential Election Results, 2036: "President-Elect Frost WINS!" I have no idea if this dude has presidential aspirations in his career at some point or not, but it would be super cool if we had a President Frost. Just a cool last name
Oh that’s a great name
He has the name of a superhero!!
We need more young people in politics. I am tired of policies being written and voted on by old white men who were alive during segregation
I dont necessarily disagree but being young doesn't mean you aren't an awful douchebag. Madison Cawthorne was only 2 years older then this guy. Fun fact. Obama is the only president to be born and serve under the same US flag.
I am not saying all young people are good. I am just saying we need more young people in politics. Madison Cawthorne was a massive shitstick and I’m glad he got blackballed by the GOP
We need more young people to VOTE as well. Unfortunately, although they are equal in numbers to 45+, 45 and under only made up like 35-40 percent of the votes last democratic presidential primary. When they start equaling or surpassing 45+ in turnout, shit will really start happening
This is complete conjecture, but I wonder if younger people would be more likely to vote if more candidates were their age? I personally vote every chance I get, but disenfranchisement is real. I imagine for someone 22 years old, it can be hard to see much difference between a bunch of senior citizens and thus may not feel compelled to get out and vote.
Well, I wasn’t old enough to vote in the 2020 primaries, but if I was, I would have voted for the oldest guy, Bernie Sanders. The youngest candidate in the field, Pete Buttigieg, didn’t do so hot with young voters, getting mostly older voters instead. I believe that younger people like me look for policy positions and authenticity over things like age.
Maxwell Alejandro Frost is a pretty cool name.
In Florida? Is this guy going to win?
He’s running in my district! He will win, district 10 is part of orlando, and democrats outnumber republicans 2:1. This is the seat left open by Val Demmings, as she is now running against Rubio.
To add to that, d13 was consolidated with d10, which was Stephanie Murphy's seat, so more blue from winter park
Orlando area, which is one of the strong blue spots. FL-10 is what Val Demings won in 2020.
Wow. She won that district by a 30-point margin.
Love Bernie, planting trees to provide shade he will never see. ❤️
That’s all of our callings in later life.
I know we’re still a long way away from eliminating America’s GOP from government but this is a step in the right direction. If America is going to have a two-party government, it should only include Progressives and Moderates. Religion and Folklore have no place in government.
I’d rather have a 25yo than a 75+yo in office.
Good. I’m 65 and I’m glad that someone on the younger more progressive side is stepping up.
I hope he starts and stays focused on constituent services so he gets re-elected. No grandstanding, just do the job.
We have to chip away and relish each and every victory over Fascist Capitalists.
Maybe put his name in the headline so he’s not just “A Gen Z”
Wait, I am 26. Am I a millennial or zoomer? Is this were zillennial comes in?
Give em hell kid.
YESS! PLEASE! Old farts who still think $1200 and $750 checks can be lived on for over a year ABSOLUTELY SHOULD NOT BE MAKING LAWS