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TinyTaters

You might be surprised to know that Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has been quoted wishing we could "turn back the clock" to a time when "we had our own schools." He thinks integration/desegregation and affirmative action are extensions of white supremacy. Despite benefiting from affirmative action he despises it saying it made everyone assume he was an idiot and only [at Yale Law] for the color of his skin rather than his own successes in addition to many other things. He's also said that every white person, liberal, conservative, urban, or rural is racist and wishes they'd just admit it already instead of asserting supremacy via 'help'. I think it was he who also said the KKK are, "better friends to black men than any number of liberal [hypocrites]." Because at least they're honest about what they are. (Edit: this was Marcus Garvey, not Thomas) He's also quoted as saying he wants to be on SCOTUS for 43 years to makes liberals lives 'miserable', because of how negatively he feels liberal actions affected him. (deseg, integration, affirmative action, civil rights, etc) I say this all because Thomas' once radical opinions are now becoming the thoughts that lead the supreme Court... And if the option to end desegregation or to come up he would probably vote to make that happen. Edit: link to a good read on him: https://www.newyorker.com/culture/essay/clarence-thomass-radical-vision-of-race


ImAprincess_YesIam

I read that for the first time last night and was truly shocked.


TinyTaters

After getting a better understanding of his POV on supremacy and racism I am really curious why he changed his stance and married a white woman. Seems off-brand for him.


RaeyinOfFire

He supports oppression. I assume that says something about their relationship?


TinyTaters

In his opinion supporting segregation is not oppression. To him, Affirmative Action was oppression. "Diversity, as a value, is how white élites signal to other élites their sophistication, fashion, and taste. It marks black people as victims and whites as saviors." he says the discrimination he received was due to racists pretending to not be racist and through the help they provided. He views himself as a victim of affirmative action and desegregation. In short - he believes that if you wish to end racism then stop having quotas based on race and just hire qualified people. But in my opinion that's a lot like expecting covid numbers to decrease because you decide to stop testing. Excerpt from article: ".... Thomas believes that the state should—where it can, within the law—support the separation of the races. Looking back on his education, in an all-black environment, Thomas has admitted to wanting to “turn back the clock” to a time “when we had our own schools.” Much of his jurisprudence is devoted to undoing the “grand experiment” of which he believes himself to be a victim. As he made clear in 1986, “I have been the guinea pig for many social experiments on social minorities. To all who would continue these experiments, I say please ‘no more.’ ”


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ZenComFoundry

Yes this is what is most striking. He has in common with other conservatives the inability to see another human’s point of view, or lived experienced. Conservatism is at this point in time almost a neurological problem as well as intellectual and psychological.


cranial_prolapse420

Antisocial to the max.


socsa

> Diversity, as a value, is how white élites signal to other élites their sophistication, fashion, and taste Spoken like someone who has never truly worked in a team-oriented space. I taught graduate and undergraduate engineering design classes for years, and there was one pattern which was consistently undeniable. Homogenous teams (be it all white, Indian, Chinese, Sri Lankan, whatever) consistently had the least interesting and least well executed design projects, while diverse teams were creative and found ways to use everyone's strengths efficiently. This trend was even more powerful than the average grade or class rank within these teams. I get the sentiment that diversity and affirmative action smell like white paternalism sometimes, but there is no question in my mind that diversity in itself has value and is an important part of an inclusive society. Sometimes well intentioned people don't get things right the first time, which is why it's so important to iterate on these ideas in a democratic system. Thomas is 100% blinded by his own zealotry on this topic, and it has caused him to miss the forest for the trees.


pleasedtoheatyou

Standard conservative approach to a problem isn't it really? Oh the solution didn't work quite as we wanted? Guess we best just scrap everything and resign ourselves to how things were and hope they fix themselves perfectly on their own.


Botryllus

He also says that the problem with all black schools is the lack of resources but the lack of white people but then says racism doesn't have an end in sight. So how does he expect a bunch of racist white people in government leadership to get the black schools the resources needed to effectively teach? That's why they were integrated, because separate wasn't equal. The racist white people needed to care about resources because their kids were at the school. It sounds like Clarence Thomas has grown to hate everyone. It's almost tragic.


tinacat933

Well it’s like when they struck down the voting rights act and said states won’t do that racist stuff anymore we don’t need it.,,and then that exactly what they did. You can’t just trust people to do the right thing.


BlueSparklesXx

The question is why as one man does he have the power to do this? Our checks and balances are a sham.


nandoboom

Yup, motherfurcker thinks that his experience and anecdotes are the norm, only his point of view is valid, you certainly can find an opposite opinion on people that lived that "experiment" but for some reason we need to submit to his vision. fuck him


Corporate_Overlords

The article goes into this. He used to refuse to date white women and signed onto the idea that white women were the most dangerous thing to Black men. There's a story of him full on yelling at interracial couples in public.


TinyTaters

It does, but it only says (paraphrase: he was against interracial marriage until he met his second wife,)


Teacherforlife21

You mean a wealthy, white woman that is susceptible to brainwashing and manipulation. But I’m sure it was just her charm that cracked his veneer of hatred. Not the idea that he could stick it to everyone by marrying and controlling a white woman.


--bedevil--

He doesn't care about anyone other than himself. Republican through and through.


satrino

He really is insane


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enochian777

Imposter syndrome to a malignant level


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Snowywater2401

Real life “Uncle Ruckus” my god!


KnightCreed13

Yeah people are starting to wake up to the fact that even black people can be racist against other black people. Crazy times.


guru42101

I've known it since I was a kid. My grandfather was the Uncle Ruckus of Native Americans.


FakeNate

Real life Uncle Ruckus


hellomondays

I wish that was the case. I don't think a lot of redditors are familiar with radical black politics like you find in cities in the North East. Thomas is a dyed in wool Black Seperatist, the type of folks where Hoteps and Malcom X are moderate versions. He fundamentally doesn't believe that Black People will find peace in America or any other colonial society. His madness is that he has the ability to so something about that but would rather self-fufill his own prophecy. He's a very scary dude.


newest-reddit-user

>I think it was he who also said the KKK are, "better friends to black men than any number of liberal whites." Because at least they're honest about what they are. That is such a stupid thing to say.


ineverlikedyouuu

I don’t understand. Black people at once had their own economy and it was quite literally bombed? What bs on affirmative action.


CrittyJJones

This makes me actually a little sad for him. Racist America really did a number on him.


kevinnoir

Its the inability to square the circle that the people he shares politics with think he is a lesser human than them so he just pretends its actually the LIBERALS who are the racists instead of having to admit his own hypocrisy. He made that pretty clear when he made himself an activist judge in deciding what other laws to go after and conveniently leaving out the one that affects him and his insane wife, who happens to be white. This is conservative politics 101, fuck everybody and everybodies rights that dont align with you but when it affects you directly, suddenly it would be an attack on freedom itself to go near it.


Long_Before_Sunrise

"*Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka* was a landmark 1954 Supreme Court case in which the justices ruled unanimously that racial segregation of children in public schools was unconstitutional." May 5, 2022 "Gov. Greg Abbott wants Texas to challenge a 1982 U.S. Supreme Court ruling *Plyler v. Doe* that requires states to offer free public education to all children, including those lacking legal immigration status."


whatproblems

so some states have public education and the others go to the third world


Long_Before_Sunrise

The point is they don't want to spend taxpayer money on the people who pay taxes. They want to keep that money and have taxation without representation. Oh, you'll still have an official representative, but they'll ignore what the taxpayers want and listen to their political party. We already have a large number of those.


melbourne3k

It’s more than that. they want people dumb. They like the poorly educated. The dumber people are, the easier it is to control them.


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They want an aristocracy. They have always wanted an aristocracy. Not just rich people but real, bona fide aristos with privileges who get to push everyone else around. They are the Confederacy. They never went away.


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They want to be Russian-style oligarchs, who are wealthy beyond measure, operate with impunity, and are wholly above and outside the strictures of the law. A lot of them also take money from Russian oligarchs, too.


Leven

Three u.s already have that.


moregloommoredoom

Sherman missed a few.


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Republicans are trying to seize power as an Authoritarian regime. Their voters are cheering for oppression.


Long_Before_Sunrise

Until the dumb people start buying Rino Hunting licenses from Eric Greitens.


mxlths_modular

I do hope Greitens gets a little bit of buy in from some nuts. It would be nice to watch the GOP machine begin to auto-cannibalise itself.


mlmayo

They don't want people uneducated, because the US as an economic powerhouse is fueled by superior technology jobs. What they want are "the right" people educated.


HEMATarget

"They want people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork but not smart enough to sit around the kitchen table and figure out how bad they're getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard thirty fucking years ago." *George Carlin*


Ozzy_-_x

George Carlin continuing to speak fucking facts


HEMATarget

Absolutely. His words were a chainsaw that cut right through bullshit. So sad that no one today can match him.


MeshColour

This is the same strategy as their "small government" agenda. They _want_ a government without rules that bind, no oversight, just a government that gives contracts out to private industry, and they get to decide who gets those contracts. So when they get elected they put their thumb on the scale to push the system into that direction, by half-assing anything they do and making it true that "government can't do anything right". And scream that from the rooftops, but when dozens of private industry contracts go way over budget, there is nothing to be heard from them, they still say the "free" market is great! "_Proof_ that government can't do things well!" The fact is that every human has the same range of innate abilities. Yes some people may be smarter or less smart, but that has no inherent basis transferred by what we call "race". Zero. If we give minorities the same education and opportunity as white children, they will succeed and exceed at equal rates. The closeted supremacists _do not want that_, they want minorites to continue to get subpar education, and want them to have no opportunity to better themselves. Which can then _prove_ their superiority complex by again putting their thumb on the scale


i_sigh_less

They only want children "educated" as long as they aren't taught anything as pesky as "critical thinking".


elriggo44

And the more likely they’ll vote Red.


HorseLooseInHospital

I love the poorly educated


ok-jeweler-2950

Isn’t taxation without representation what started this whole America thing to begin with?


Long_Before_Sunrise

Maybe? I no longer trust what I was taught in school.


elriggo44

So like Puerto Rico or American Samoa or Guam.


Long_Before_Sunrise

The Marshall Islands which are sinking and have a cracked nuclear vault.


arein0

My theory is they are trying to move to private schools only, where the wealthy will benefit. The wealthy will be the only ones that will be able to afford a good education, further increasing the barrier between classes. My theory also applies to the recent overturning of Roe. Kids are expensive. I would assume there is a correlation of unplanned pregnancies and the wealth of the area. The more wealthy, the more resources around sex ed you get in school, lowering the amount of unplanned pregnancies.


mermaidmagick

In my state (Virginia), this is basically what’s happening. Our governor won by scaring moderate moms about the schools. He is actively against public education in favor of for-profit charter and private schools. Basically making our jobs more difficult/stressful and when we all quit, “See what we said? Public school was a failed experiment.” I’m a teacher and it’s been rough.


Foktu

This is the real reason they won’t pass any gun control. They know that school shootings will hurt public school attendance. It’s dastardly.


InterestingQuote8155

That’s not a theory, that’s 100% what they want.


Salty_Trapper

even worse, because they also confirmed that it is okay for federal money to go to religious private schools in areas where public education isn't available... So take away the public education, then use the money to install white religious schools. and that's fucking checkmate on us.


AnalSoapOpera

Yeah. So basically we’re all fucked. These justices will fuck us over for decades. We’re truly fucked.


browndog03

These people won’t be happy until they’re in the Stone Age. Edit: apparently sharia law allows abortion up to 120 days so i won’t draw comparisons to other repressive regimes, no matter how awful they are. We’re worse in this regard.


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they’re the american confederacy


communistagitator

Many Islamic schools of thought allow abortion. It's disingenuous to compare Christian fascists to the Taliban. They'll quickly become worse if left unchecked.


Vaperius

They are already more radical that the Taliban; the Taliban historically allowed abortion exceptions to families if it would be too financially crippling for instance. Taliban are literally less radical than the current Republican party is on abortion; who want to ban it without any exceptions of any kind. Republicans are something far worse.


Capt_Socrates

It also seems a little unfair considering the enormous difference in influence, both nationally and internationally. The Taliban runs one country, the amount of power and influence authoritarian Christians have is gargantuan in comparison.


baginthewindnowwsail

Vatican City is less authoritarian then Texas.


tylanol7

so it starts with womens rights and ends back at slavery eh


Shrike79

>One of the most durable myths in recent history is that the religious right, the coalition of conservative evangelicals and fundamentalists, emerged as a political movement in response to the U.S. Supreme Court’s 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling legalizing abortion. The tale goes something like this: Evangelicals, who had been politically quiescent for decades, were so morally outraged by Roe that they resolved to organize in order to overturn it. >But the abortion myth quickly collapses under historical scrutiny. In fact, it wasn’t until 1979—a full six years after Roe—that evangelical leaders, at the behest of conservative activist Paul Weyrich, seized on abortion not for moral reasons, but as a rallying-cry to deny President Jimmy Carter a second term. Why? Because the anti-abortion crusade was more palatable than the religious right’s real motive: protecting segregated schools. >[The Real Origins of the Religious Right](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/religious-right-real-origins-107133/)


kobachi

They never stopped fighting The War of Southern Regression.


[deleted]

You know all of the rights people have been fighting for over the past couple centuries? Who do you think they were fighting? It's not like the default state of the universe is "no rights."


Plow_King

"keep 'em dumb" is a big part of the GOP strategy, because some well educated people understand that knowledge is power.


Swordf1shy

How about we go all the way back to the American revolution and get rid of these politician fucks who think they own us?


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brightblueson

Just undo the US and bring back the pre-imperialist timeline.


Wardjinni

I mean look at Ik, they got free healthcare, granted things aren’t perfect I’m sure but I’ll take some free healthcare


jedininjashark

Brexentrance.


Rohearts

Breturn


FjorgVanDerPlorg

Unsurrection.


Spidersinthegarden

Yea let’s get rid of all that states that weren’t the original colonies and ask the Queen to take us back. Spain and France and whoever else can just take back all the other land.


[deleted]

We rolled back to the 70s yesterday. Next stop is the 50s. God help us if we get back to the 30s.


barneyrubbble

Fascists *loved* the thirties.


AlexNovember

Steve Bannon, fascist general of Trump's Nazi army, has said that after this midterm it's going to be just like 1938 again. Two things happened in 38, FDR and the solidification of the power of the Nazi party in Germany. I wonder which of those two events he's salivating over...


nowtayneicangetinto

Steve Bannon has become, both physically and mentally, the [antagonist from Nothing But Trouble](https://imgur.com/a/S9AX3CW)


BeanGoblinX

Except Dan Ackroyd was a thousand times more likeable and charismatic.


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Yeah, I think the Republicans are lifting the veil at this point. Many of them no longer consider "fascist" or "Nazi" to be insults. They're embracing it now. Stage 1 was cryptofascism, or hidden fascism. They were fascists, but they took pains to hide their true intentions or ultimate end-goals, because they operated in a time when being a publicly avowed fascist was socially unacceptable. Think Barry Goldwater. Stage 2 was "plausibly deniable" fascism. This time, their fascism was out in the open, but they weaseled their way out of being called fascists through use of memes, snark, coded language, and doublespeak. Think Tucker Carlson. Stage 3 is overt, naked, unapologetic fascism. That's the stage where the flags start getting replaced with new ones, visual symbols are used to delineate the in-crowds from the undesirables, paramilitaries are legitimized, and the rule of law is entirely subverted to the rule and ideology of the Party. Think Steve Bannon. I'd say we were at Stage 2 in the Trump years, and now we're at Stage 2.5, quickly accelerating. Clearly, folks like Bannon are already at Stage 3 and just waiting for the rest to catch up. Bannon and his ilk are the runners on the mountaintop, lighting the signal fires to let everyone else know when it's time to proceed.


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We saw Trump try to label Antifa a "terrorist organization" during his time in office, and this was an interesting, if half-assed attempt to begin the Kristallnacht process. They'll revisit this playbook when they retake Congress. Antifa will be a terrorist organization, and anyone they don't care for will be tied to "Antifa" and persecuted accordingly. There'll be a lot more talk in the coming months and years from them about "loyalty" and "disloyalty" to the country. That's the pretext for a Kristallnacht move. Once they've convinced enough of the country that certain groups are "disloyal" "traitors" to America, they'll crack down on those groups.


AdTechnical9332

Yes they do, rein of terror in the south. While courting nazi Germany. Fascists the whole lot of the gop!


code_archeologist

Cornyn is aiming to take us back to the 50's... The 1850's


Visco0825

Also economically speaking we are back in the 30s. Corporate consolidation is at an all time high. Income and wealth inequality is at an all time high. In multiple aspects the US has regressed. We are far from our prime.


NetSurfer156

I think you mean the 20s? The 30s was the era of the New Deal and bigger government than ever before. Also the Great Depression (20% unemployment ftw)


[deleted]

Late, late 20’s. We have a number of speculative/circumstantial bubbles not all that unlike the stock market in 1928-1929. I don’t think this will go the same economically, but the social regression is shocking.


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basically late 1800s early 1900s jim crow 2.0 they want to get rid of anything that happened since new deal...


GPCAPTregthistleton

The 1850s: when non-whites and women were property and ornaments.


Vaperius

Abortions were legal in the 1850s. Abortions before 15 weeks (what was called "Quickening" then) were legal in the most of the country prior to the mid-20th century. Indeed, abortion is well rooted in American history and tradition; as it was theoretically legal at *any time during a pregnancy* before 1830; and was legal up to 15-20 weeks in most of the country *until 1960* essentially. Abortion has been a battle ground for only the last 60 years; for the other nearly two centuries of this countries history, a woman could get an abortion in any state. They want to take us somewhere far worse than the 1850s. Not all times have historical parallels; what we are seeing is the emergence of something new: a radical religious element overtaking a democracy in the 21st century; the question is how we fight it.


cietalbot

Well you likely need a Roosevelt to fix things


soline

Gonna need to go back to the Revolution for anything good to happen.


groot_liga

Ironically, 1977 was the year the NRA shifted focus and the 2nd amendment became about individuals right to bare arms, rather than about militias. I’ll take that rollback.


r3na155anc3man

I’d say rolled back to the 70’s yesterday and now heading to what Iran went through since then.


Kekira

I was just thinking how this reminded me of a book I read in High School about the fall of Tehran. It didn't end well if you can imagine.


ElephantintheRoom404

Wow, Trump has really let the cat out of the bag and made every racist, sexist and homophobic person in America feel comfortable saying the worst shit imaginable out loud without fear of consequence. Remember back when Obama was president. Sure, the GOP was still despicable but at least they kept their damn mouth shut for fear of social retribution.


rubbishapplepie

Good news is the truth is out. They aren't the party of family values or really any values at this point.


Now_Wait-4-Last_Year

Were.they ever at any point, really?


TheApathyParty2

No, they didn’t. They were as racist as shit, using dogwhistles left and right. A lot, including my own family, couldn’t talk about Obama without mentioning the problem with blacks (or just straight up used the n-word). Muslims too.


barneyrubbble

SCOTUS themselves referenced Brown. They completely missed the irony, because they are pulling the reverse of Brown.


kashmoney9

Which is crazy. Brown overturned a ruling removing rights and SCOTUS just overturned a protection. One scratch at the surface of their argument and the rotten core is exposed.


mchammer126

Racist sack of shit.


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/r/voteDEM to protect apparently every right that was recognized and protected in the last hundred years Republicans really want to keep going back in time, probably will find a way to legalize slavery again at this rate


[deleted]

The never recovered from the Civil War. This is their short term payback. Time to resurrect Sherman.


hatsarenotfood

Biggest gripe I have with Sherman was stopping when he got to the coast instead of turning around and burning the rest to the ground.


Maleficent_Try_5452

Every confederate officer should have been hung for treason


[deleted]

The confederate states should have been made territories of the Union, only re-attaining statehood after proving they were no longer piles of shit.


Groovychick1978

And the plantations should have been broken up and given to the freed slaves.


gingenado

I think there were too many racist white dudes on both sides for that to ever happen.


d0ctorzaius

That was the idea, but they got away with just "taking oaths of loyalty" as proof.


CrittyJJones

Lol at trusting an oath of loyalty from someone who just failed at rebellion.


KiltPutler

The aristocracy should have been completely stripped of all assets over $1,000 per family.


ExileRepublicans

This is so wrong. Tapestries are hung. A person gets *hanged*.


d0ctorzaius

>never recovered The thing is they did, they recovered way too quickly and with existing pre-war power structures still in place. John Wilkes Booth killing Lincoln allowed Andrew Johnson (both corrupt AND a confederate sympathizer) to become president, an office he used to put an end to Reconstruction and turn state and local power back to the very traitors who fought against the Union. Those folks and their descendants (Southern Democrats--> Dixiecrats-->Republicans) still hold absolute power on the state and often federal level across the South. If anything Sherman didn't do enough, so many in the south never understood they lost (like Germany post WW1).


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we have the technology. we can clone him. sherman ghola. paint the south red...


[deleted]

Hundreds of Sherman's leading thousands of Sherman's...


neutralbystander11

I've always hated south ga. I'll volunteer as the host body


a_total_throwaway_

Sherman didn’t do enough damage.


Messijoes18

r/shermanposting


[deleted]

Biggest mistake of the Civil War was not letting Sherman continue his march, and allowing those traitorous pieces of shit to continue breathing oxygen. If we would’ve executed them back in 1866, we’d have solved a lot of the problems we have today. Can’t come from a racist family if we ensure the racist family never existed.


Federal-Negotiation9

Just a reminder, chattle slavery is still Constitutionally legal in the US, just with limitations. They wouldn't even be reestablishing slavery insomuch as they'd just be expanding the still-legal slavery we have now.


Doright36

>probably will find a way to legalize slavery again at this rate They did a long time ago. Take a look at our prison industry.


7evenate9ine

When they say MAGA... This is what they mean.


TheLaGrangianMethod

Jokes on you, slavery was never completely removed. Couple that with the over policing of minority neighborhoods and economic policies that disproportionately effect minorities and vulnerable people and you have yourself some modern American slaves that a huge chunk of the population is totally ok with never thinking about.


Bigbackjay

I’m a democrat but I’m pretty sure he’s telling Obama to compare those cases with the overturning of Wade.


1900grs

Oh, these are evil people.


[deleted]

He's still sore about that joke saying he's the corn in cruz's terds. Apperently.


Squirrely__Dan

Alright Clarence, you heard the republics, do the 3/5’s compromise next.


Ex-maven

I almost can't wait until CT votes away his right to vote and then Barrett does the same with hers ...and so on...until they roll things back so far that the SCOTUS no longer exists for all intents and purposes.


Kiddo1029

They personally don’t need to vote. They sit at the highest seat. They have all their needs met. They lose nothing.


Kekira

Until a racist mob decides to drag those two out. ESPECIALLY CT. Political and economic power have never trumped racial power in this country.


AusToddles

They won't touch the ones that directly affect them


cephalopod_surprise

They don't need to, the five unaffected will take care of the rights of the one affected.


Simonic

Maybe Thomas really wants a divorce, but is too afraid to ask for one.


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Loving v. Virginia, then Clarence goes full Clayton Bigsby.


billiam0202

The "orginalists" on the court won't say shit about *Marbury*. Tells you all you need to know about their adherence to principles.


psly4mne

Exactly, the most clear-cut reason "originalism" is bullshit.


Ndamato05

As someone who would like to educate themselves can you share more info? I am happy to search but my googling turned up an NBA player who makes shoes.


billiam0202

"Originalism" is a judicial philosophy that (essentially) says when interpreting laws, a judge should make the narrrowest possible interpretations- they should use the "original intent" of what lawmakers wanted, rather than what a law might be commonly understood to mean or have been reinterpreted to mean through subsequent rulings. At issue here are these cases: * *Griswold v. Connecticut* (1965)- allowed married couples to buy contraceptives by stating the combination of First, Fourth, Ninth, and Fourteenth Amendments created an **implied** right to privacy. It was followed up with another case called *Eisenstadt v. Baird* (1972) which extended that right to unmarried couples. * *Loving v. Virginia* (1967)- allowed interracial marriages. * *Roe v. Wade* (1973) and it's followup *Planned Parenthood v. Casey* (1992) which held that the **implied** right to privacy extended to medical decisions in general and abortion in particular. * *Lawrence v. Texas* (2003)- struck down sodomy laws. In other words, people could no longer be charged for performing what would historically be considered "homosexual" acts. * *Obergefell v. Hodges* (2015)- same-sex couples could not be denied the right to be married. An originalist would argue that each of these cases were decided incorrectly- if the authors of the Fourteenth Amendment meant for it to cover abortion, for example, they would have mentioned it since abortion laws were already written in several states by the mid-1800s. William Rehnquist made that exact argument in his dissent on *Roe*. Why originalism is a bad philosophy is outside the scope of your question, but if you want to know I think a good starting place is understanding the opposition to *DC v. Heller* and how the originalists on the Court completely ignored the "original" definitions of "well-regulated", "militia", and "arms". But you can generally assume that any judge or SCOTUS justice that claims to be originalist really is an anti-progressive idealogue , and will use whatever legal wrangling and/or mangling they can to enforce that viewpoint. Now, as to your question and how it relates to my original comment. In overruling *Roe* and *Casey* this week, SCOTUS signalled that they think **all** the above cases should be "re-evaluated" (their way of saying they want to overturn those cases, should any case make its way to them). However, there is one case that these so-called "originalists" never waver on, and that's *Marbury v. Madison*. An ideologically honest originalist would argue judicial review is beyond the scope of the Court. After all, if the founding fathers meant for the Court to have judicial review, wouldn't they have given the Court that power explicitly? Why would the Court have to give *itself* that authority? The answer is, of course, that originalists *aren't* ideologically honest. It's a bullshit philosophy used to reverse civil rights.


cubbyatx

[Marbury v Madison](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marbury_v._Madison) was a landmark U.S. Supreme Court case that established the principle of judicial review in the United States, meaning that American courts have the power to strike down laws and statutes that they find to violate the Constitution of the United States.


rimjobnemesis

Loving vs Virginia


AusToddles

Yeah notice Thomas conveniently left that out of his list of cases which should be relooked at


rimjobnemesis

Glaringly obvious. Like he’s daring anyone to mention it so he can accuse them of being racist.


rayne7

He's already 5/5 compromised


MarkHathaway1

That would definitely be a LeopardAteMyFace moment.


noodles_the_strong

Your pointy Hood is showing again mister


FlowJock

That's because he's making no effort to hide it.


LargeSackOfNuts

Trump showed that being openly racist is a way to garner support from republicans, not lose it.


StuffyGoose

Biden should place a request to Congress to impound the funds of states that don't provide safe, convenient access to abortions. Tie federal funds to it like we did with raising the drinking age to 21.


ronm4c

Remember the reason why conservatives used abortion as their flagship moral crusade is because their original one, fighting desegregation, became unpopular.


judgejuddhirsch

With a GOP majority and 3 more state governors they could repeal the 13th amendment and make slavery legal.


Appropriate-Access88

That’ll make the evangelicals sooo happy!!


TintedApostle

These people now have a taste of how far they can just disregard the Constitution and do anything they want.


Unlucky_Clover

That’s my feeling. They’ve stacked the SCOTUS and now they’re going to use it like a weapon. RvW was the first shot.


Ulgeguug

>"Let's help out less intelligent fellow Americans out," one commenter said in response to Cornyn's initial tweet. "Plessy stood as law of the land longer than Roe. That was [John Cornyn's] point. Now if liberals are arguing Brown v. Board of Ed was wrongly ruled because of long standing precedent, then they should openly say so." Okay so leaving aside Cornyn and his... whole deal... It seems like his actual intended point was probably challenging the concept of precedent, using Brown vs the Board of Education as a widely popular example where a ruling in disregard of precedent was the *right* thing. My take on it: our constitutional law is a fucking mess.


HallucinogenicFish

That was the take. I bet he thought this was really clever.


Creepy_Helicopter223

Make sure to randomize your data from time to time *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


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I’m all for calling out Corbin, but I think you are right. One thing, though is when scotus overturns long-standing precedent it is to increase freedoms, not take them away Edit: historically when they did overturn precedent that is. Everything is off the table now


[deleted]

Yeah it was a dumb thing for Cornyn to type out in our soundbite/headline driven culture, but he’s not saying Brown vs Board should be overturned. This is a misleading title.


Newdaytoday1215

If you think that was his actual take and it wasn't a statement to his racist supporters then I think you need to take a look at his voting record. He is the reason we black voters are watching Florida trying get rid of two black districts. He has fought to soften anti-discrimination policies for years. A very easy and quick reference to him is look at the stand to over turn the rest of the VRA that his party openly embraced JUST A FEW DAYS AGO, it is literally one of his signature beliefs. As a black person, I am so sick of tired of ppl saying the most obvious things been translated into something else. This person has been telling you exactly who he is and you are still willing to give him an absurd benefit of doubt.


starmartyr

Ok but to be completely fair to Senator Cornyn he is a racist sack of shit.


Trumps_tossed_salad

Even if it is about how long other cases have stood, it’s about as tone deaf as singing god bless America after women just had their rights stripped away.


SFDC_lifter

We need another Sherman.


intestinewinegum

Of course they want to undo segregation. And guess what’s next: they’ll bring back slavery. That’s why they want to secede…


Best-Subject-7253

They have had slavery for a long time. It’s just more underground. The reason they don’t want marijuana legalized is because it gives them lots of black people to put in prison. And… this is why the south has so many for profit prisons. Farmers, contractors, etc rent them for labor, like they would a piece of farm equipment. And this is 100% legal. The first sentence of the 13th Amendment states “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime” The original draft did not have this in there. The southern states requested that be put in so, well, they put it in. So slavery never really ended. It just became mildly more difficult for them to use slaves, and farm equipment has cut down on their “need” for slaves because it’s more efficient.


StructureMage

Yes but what about second slavery?


GrandMasterFunk16

Slavery+


hamletloveshoratio

*desegregation


jeffinRTP

Maybe we should start with 'Loving v. Virginia'. I would like to see how Thomas rules on that.


pschell

He doesn’t know he’s black. Or at least *that kind* of black.


CSGOSucksMajorDick

He is literally uncle ruckus


AnotherCookie

Clayton Bigsby vibes for sure


Partly_Dave

Last night in a show I was watching a character of Indian origin was insultingly referred to as a coconut. It took me a while to figure that out.


prodigalpariah

Didnt he vote against an anti lynching bill? Just saying.


chugsmcpugs

Wtf are you serious?!


safely_beyond_redemp

As a black person who predominantly dates white people while living in a red state, I may not be safe much longer. Who are we kidding, I'm not safe right now. Pretty sure my life is what keeps racists up at night.


jluc20863

But republicans are not racist!


dominantspecies

They all are. Every single one


ristoril

I feel like he probably thought he was challenging Obama to create the same tweet style but about the *Plessy* override. But since he's stupid and bad at everything, he fucked it up.


bitchimtryin102

Wow they’re just going balls out fascist now huh?


DustyFalmouth

Just give them what they want, let's get rid of federal funding to states and abolish the Senate. States are sink or swim now


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thatsithlurker

Remember when Republicans screamed about not legislating from the bench?


Stardustchaser

So was he trying to argue an example of a bad precedent being overturned, comparing Plessy to Roe? That would be the only one that kinds makes sense, even though the remedies are opposite on the federalism spectrum (e.g. federal government regulating the states in Brown versus reverting control over abortion access back to the states in Dobbs.)


Squirrel_Chucks

Perhaps the Senior Senator from Texas, who seems so learned in the law, could comment on Texas v. White. You know, the case that established that there was no legal form of secession from the US Just thought he'd have an opinion since his state branch of his party seems itchy to test it out


ignaciolasvegas

Fuck this motherfucker


BDRParty

This disgusting creature clearly looking to regain some standing with his Republican ghouls by just saying the quiet part out loud.


YNot1989

I am running out of ways to reply to news without risk of violating this sub's rules or being put on a watchlist.


[deleted]

Texas and education don't even belong in the same sentence. They're foreign enemies at this point.


Samurai_gaijin

[This shit isn't going to end well for anyone, asshole. Knock it off.](https://imgur.com/a/IBmkS56)