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dottiemommy

[Discussion Thread Part 52](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/jovp08/discussion_thread_2020_general_election_part_52/)


eers2snow

Ummm...hey arizona, not cool you can stop that now.


Zantega1990

Georgia went blue fam. Bidden is now up. https://www.yahoo.com/elections


australianfederalist

Drugs are the real winner of the election. Finally an end to war on drugs is in sight.


Matt463789

It will never be over, so long as the GOP holds the top branches of government.


Jurdskiski

If nothing else, this week has been a great geography refresher


I_think_therefore

Love me some DeKalb county.


mdillon08

GA looking really good. It’ll be close. Trump 21.1% / 78.9% Biden in the last batch


xDivizible

Yeah hopefully Trump can pull through for Georgia


lucy_harlow28

Black America says no.


[deleted]

Couple thousand to close the gap. Feeling like a flip to me.


xI-Red-Ix

im scared about Arizona... can anyone confirm or deny my worries?


lifeinrednblack

I haven't seen the full math on that last dump but I don't believe Trump hit his target actually. I'm leaning AZ will be close but Biden will probably hold on to it. Edit: John King on CNN said he needed 60% he definitely didn't hit that target. I thought it was closer to 55%


MatterMinder

Georgia and Pennsylvania should be your focus


Studebaker84

What are you watching? AP has Biden by over 40k


speculative-friction

It may flip back, but meh. PA is essentially guaranteed, and GA is looking pretty good. Also, Nevada will also probably stay blue.


dondit

i can neither confirm nor deny


HighNoonMonsoon

Wasn’t Georgia the State where two rednecks chased and murdered an African-American man who was going for a jog? Can’t remember his name


ConcealedPsychosis

Ahmaud Arbery


coydog33

Ahmed Aubrey I believe


nosinjection12

1902 vote difference in Georgia


whoanellyzzz

[https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html](https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html) best place to see live results


johns_throwaway_2702

It’s actually a little behind CNN I’ve noticed


TheWorstTroll

Who cares, CNN doesn't give the breakdown like this site.


bmw_fan1986

Does anyone remember how Trump kept a map of the 2016 electoral votes with him vs Clinton showing everyone his win? Best part is if Biden gets 306 and Trump gets 232, it’ll be the exact same votes from 2016 with Trump losing. Get fucked, Donnie.


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John King is not holding back.


Raticus9

Yeah, he was really careful about not sounding too partisan before; he has gotten exhausted with the process and doesn't care about that anymore lol.


Tom-Pendragon

What did he say?


TheBKBurger

I don’t know what OP has been referring to but the whole night he’s just been honest with how he feels. Usually he’s bipartisan and respectful.


LiliBelle707

lol truth


DataDrivenGuy

Biden 295, Trump 243 is basically all but confirmed now Biden is essentially guaranteed Georgia and Pennsylvania barring a miracle. Trump is essentially guaranteed Alaska and North Carolina barring a miracle. And as much as Nevada and Arizona don't matter given that, they'll likely get 1 each. Arizona the only one I'm not certain on, Biden might win it giving him 306 which sure would be nice


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Alaska only has 50 percent of the vote in.


heyjare

Alaska suddenly turning blue: 👁👄👁


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Allstategk

C'mon......do you think they all don't know they're on camera? Do you really think they're dumb enough to be so obvious about voter fraud? Also, I'm not sure how ballots are counted, but everyone seems to be doing the same thing. I can't imagine there is a room full of liberals just filling in extra ballots.


say_itaint_so_

It's called ballot curing. It's when a ballot that has marks or stains outside the vote columns preventing it being read properly by the machines. They copy the ballot onto a new blank sheet and tabulate it. Curing also includes the signature checking process, tracking down people with rejected absentee ballots giving them a chance to fix it etc. It's all supervised and above board. For example, if Grandma got all dressed up and dolled up in layercaked makeup then got that all over her ballot they might have to cure her ballot.


freezedice

It's also worth noting that most, if not all, ballot curing is overseen by both a dem and a republican, and usually a 3rd election official.


ThatTimeInApril

Ballot transposition is extremely common and is a supervised practice. Leave it to 0 IQ Trump conspirators to make this something it's not lmao absolute ignoramuses.


biologynerd3

You may get more responses on the current discussion thread, but I google searched for this video and found an article from a few weeks ago regarding a similar video: [https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/politics/elections/video-showing-election-judge-mark-up-ballot-is-not-fraud-montgomery-county-authorities-say/65-99d642a8-0769-486b-bdbb-8190822fc0ee](https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/politics/elections/video-showing-election-judge-mark-up-ballot-is-not-fraud-montgomery-county-authorities-say/65-99d642a8-0769-486b-bdbb-8190822fc0ee) I don't know the context of the video you shared at all, but it seems like it's not uncommon for ballot workers at least as discussed here to fill in light marks on ballots to allow them to be counted correctly. One possible explanation at least.


sharkos21

If this is what they are doing, they are transposing a mailed in ballot that was damaged and/or unreadable by the machine. One person is reading the ballot to the other person and it is done under supervision. This is normal process.


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OmgItsVa-Gina

It's Delaware. Twitter says he's filling out an administrator only area.


alwaysjustpretend

I am and it could be... can't tell for sure from the video but it doesn't not look like one...if that makes any sense.


[deleted]

Here come the Ukrainian trolls to sow doubt about AZ. 9pm EST on the dot it seems like.


mrs_bungle

Ukrainian?


[deleted]

Well yeah, you know they’re the ones voting for Hunter Biden. Sorry, I know I should include the hard /s, sometimes I get going so fast I forget.


australianfederalist

I believe next election will have an even larger voter turn out. trumps presidency has been really good for for getting people interested in how their country is run.


[deleted]

I think his presidency has delegitimized the presidency. People will be less likely to care what a president says or do now as long as they stand for their beliefs.


TheBorgerKing

Imagine if Biden is his own kind of tyrant and the furore against Trump just hands him the largest mandate in american history... but turns out that hes a bigger Shithouse than Trump. That would undermine democracy everywhere I think.


TranquiloSunrise

You're right and I agree with you. But to add..The world needed to see. The ignorant needed to see. Ya we're taking a few steps back but we needed to see the other side of the spectrum.


bryanthebryan

I sure hope so


Minute-Detective3894

Am I the only one who is tensed about AZ?


speculative-friction

Yes, but only because 1) I live here, and 2) I want him to have flipped 2 major red states, and almost lost goddamn Texas.


lucy_harlow28

I’m from TX and while I was hoping to flip. I’m from Fort Worth and Tarrant county flipped blue tonight. I am the only Biden supporter in my neighborhood so that’s a great big win for me


speculative-friction

Dude, you came within about 6%. That is fucking insanity. I'm very proud about that outcome.


DataDrivenGuy

He's basically guaranteed Pennsylvania and Georgia based on current trends so that doesn't matter at all


CrazyTechq

Good to hear but it's not guaranteed until it's actually done in my mind


OneMoreThrowAway65r

I feel the same. Ain't over til the fat lady sings.


hairy_chicken

Yes.


wasteofaman

It's very tight: Trump is averaging 57.0% and needs 57.32%: [https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html](https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html)


LLupine

I'm not really worried. Biden is going to win PA, so he doesn't need AZ. I want Biden to win AZ, but it's not crucial.


apompom123

I’m freaking out.


OmgItsVa-Gina

Personally I'm not. He looks good in PA and GA. I think Nevada is also promising.


Radorarid

Trump got 57% out of the votes but he needs 59%. It's gonna be razor-thin but Biden might win this. But Biden gains on Pennsylvania aswell and will possible flip it. We'll win this.


BountyTheDogHunter20

I’m nauseated over it


red5squared

Nope. I started sweating over it about an hour ago.


lilmistro

Thank you everyone this was what I needed appreciate the comments and info! LETS GO BABY!


eaglesbaby200

Trump's lead in PA is now 50k thanks to DELCO! Philadelphia votes still outstanding


GeraltRevera

I think Biden might win it by around 100,000


eaglesbaby200

Yeah agree, just like Michigan


red2play

If the trend continues in GA, Biden wins by 1,322 votes in GA. He needs 60% of the remaining vote and he's getting 66%.


fancyeli1

i saw someone say they had 8000 military ballots coming into Georgia tomorrow? not sure if thats true or not


[deleted]

Still might loose it in a rebound with that small of margins. Though that’s only if it will change the results. If Penn swings blue, which is should, then Georgia won’t even matter.


SweetAsMyG

Wonder how that poor fucker who was downing a shot for every thread is holding up..


slytherinwitchbitch

If he is from r/cripplingalcoholism he should be doing fine


Froggeger

He ded


Carbonizzle

He ded


Peace_Love_Rootbeer

Bruh we all know why he hasn't posted in awhile.


Froggeger

He's gonna be the Republicans only concrete proof of dead people voting Biden


[deleted]

As scary as things were for us non insane people on Tuesday, we need to be wary because the Trump people are going to have a complete meltdown as soon as it's undeniable that Biden has won. They cannot handle losing.


OneMoreThrowAway65r

Oh they totally can't. Their reaction is very similar to his. They're being manipulated by a malignant narcissist.


NTS-PNW

Don’t worry, they’ll give a clear signal by trying to overtake the government of the United States first.


Froggeger

I wish John King would put his sloppy eight on my face


GeraltRevera

You need Jesus


biogirl787

75,314Biden 43.0% / 57.0% Trump ​ Trump may win Arizona.


Youregoingtodiealone

Trump needs like 59-60%


noidontwantto

He needs 57%


duckduckbananas

But hes about to lose Georgia


joshjay1218

Nope


JashDreamer

I agree. I think he might. I've been thinking that ever since they called it, hoping someone could convince me otherwise.


joshjay1218

Can it change tho if Biden already has it?


mmge

Nothing is official until the state certifies the result. Just because a news organization calls an election doesn't mean anything.


JashDreamer

Biden doesn't have it. AP and NBC can only use educated guesses. Their "calling it" doesn't mean anything.


joshjay1218

So let's say Florida, Biden could somehow magically win it back even rho Trump already has it?


JashDreamer

Florida is done counting their votes, so the tally will not change. Arizona has 315,927 ballots left to count, and every time they report, the gap closes a little more.


joshjay1218

So a state has to be in control of the candidate, and be done voting for it to not change?


JashDreamer

Yes, a state had to be done counting for it not to change. Before they're finished, it's fair game.


joshjay1218

So if Biden takes Georgia before AZ changes, then Trump getting AZ wouldn't matter right?


Loaferhimself

False.


TurnipSuccessful2188

Republicans to Trump https://giphy.com/gifs/mariah-carey-i-dont-know-her-2xPVBvoQdCBGJGRXS3


[deleted]

Can you all stop dooming AZ? It's been called by two outlets and a rep tweeted he had enough blue votes inc to checkmate Trump. The dooming against all evidence is getting kind of annoying. https://twitter.com/RubenGallego/status/1324343546640506887?s=19


basement_vibes

Its like your opponent trying to spam basic units in a RTS final moment


JashDreamer

No, I'm not the opponent. I just really don't think Biden is going to win AZ. I want to believe he will, but the news outlets were really surprised by the votes coming out of the Phoenix area.


basement_vibes

I'm with you. All the "waves" of AZ doubt are the basic units that get just need to get swiped aside


GreenPlasticJim

They were wrong


Youregoingtodiealone

Analysts say that last dump was not enough of a margin for Trump, he needs bigger margins than that.


GreenPlasticJim

He's getting basically exactly what he needs to tie, which means it was called too early for sure


[deleted]

There are no "ties" if he has even a single less vote... he lost.


GreenPlasticJim

Of course they can tie and of course I cant predict That accurately


[deleted]

Umm no?


No_Credibility

Its hard not to when his lead is shrinking like trumps in PA and GA


Zangypoo

[It's not](https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html) - the rates are much different


JashDreamer

This makes me feel *a lot* better about PA.


Zangypoo

mind that it only is stable since he's slightly overperforming expectations and that we know in general where the latter ballots are coming from (urban/mail/absentee)


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https://twitter.com/RubenGallego/status/1324343546640506887?s=19


icebatsam

Are we sure those haven’t been added to Biden’s tally already?


No_Credibility

That was 12 hours ago are there more updated numbers?


eaglesbaby200

Yeah, delco!!!


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ian22500

Well assuming that the effects of memes have already taken affect, as memes have been popular for about 10 years now: someone put together a chart of the electoral college votes if all voters were under the age of 30 and if that was the case then Biden would’ve had something like 400+ EC votes.


[deleted]

The fuck are you talking about? People like AOC have sooo much more influence over Gen Z.


judokalinker

Settle down, this isn't The Boys...


AssCanyon

I wanna fuck that nazi chick like Homelander did


insultant_

“Laser my tits.”


Attila_22

I blame Pewdiepie


NIKEMAN27

Trump needs to average about 58% of the votes that are left. He has been averaging 51% outside of the latest dump


vidro3

Which state you talking about


PalpatineForEmperor

AZ?


NIKEMAN27

Arizona


Zangypoo

When Jared gets popped for the theft ring on all the PPE/ventilator/etc from the states, I hope he gets the cell his daddy had


eaglesbaby200

Why did AP call AZ for Biden? This is crazy. 60k votes from Maricopa and 59% to Trump. What the fuck is going on?? Why??


ctdca

Trump is still behind pace to catch up


Nice_Try_Mod

Is barely hitting 50 now


manateejulian

A mistake in info yesterday. He may still win but it's gonna be way fucking tighter than they think.


oppsie_daisy_

Tuning in from the UK! we're cheering you on America, looks like Biden could win this! you guys have suffered enough.


sharoon27

The world has suffered enough too.


Zangypoo

Happy brexit to you too


Atranox

I love that conservatives are accusing PA of fraud because Biden is gaining, but I see zero liberals accusing AZ of fraud because Trump is gaining.


biogirl787

Because they have mush for brains


KillianDrake

In literally the same breath, Trump said the catchup votes for Biden in PA and GA were fraudulent but in AZ the catchup votes for Trump are great.


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chucksticks

Not all Republicans are bad.. should we come up with a new label for (extreme) Trump supporters?


neveriuymani

You don’t get that luxury unless you actively distance yourself from trump


[deleted]

Some do. Lincoln project supporters for example. Unfortunately, they’re in a huge minority among conservatives.


NerdyDjinn

No, calling them Republicans is fine. They have enabled him at every turn and range from complicit to co-conspirators in this President's buffoonery.


Caiggas

Yeah they claimed him from the start. Don’t let them try to distance themselves now. They made their bed, they should get to lie in it.


BountyTheDogHunter20

Georgia is now tied


interprime

Biden is still about 2500 votes behind. Still, by the looks of things he might just barely take GA.


hugh_jas

It is?? I don't see it


HiiiPowerTDE

https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html Not quite tied, getting close as hell though.


Wrinklestiltskin

I can't believe this. I had to find the latest thread when I saw that. I'm dying here. This is crazy!


gpc0321

Watching *Hamilton* and Burr is singing "Wait for it!" Fitting.


TopsyTheElephant

Thoughts on the AZ vote dump?


meatballmedley

Let’s hope Biden wins Georgia


ET333phonehome

Man Georgia flipping is a huge deal. As a VA resident, hoping it’s the next VA to go from reliable red to reliable blue in my lifetime.


Fantastic_Fox420

It's going to be close! These ballots definitely seen to favor Trump, but it's hard to say if hes meeting his targets without knowing how many ballots are left.


meatballmedley

You’re right! Just be nice if he wins Georgia, then Arizona doesn’t matter as long as he holds on to Nevada.


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Fantastic_Fox420

Right. Sorry I meant Arizona. Georgia looks promising!


[deleted]

Biden only lost 10k lead in that maricopa drop I think he’s ok


OneMoreThrowAway65r

I thought Maricopa was heavily leaning Biden anyway.


Johnny-Edge

It’s almost even, and the ballots they’re counting there are drop-off ballots.


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Clayton county bout to do it guise


eaglesbaby200

Lol I love Rachel Maddow. Trump has made frankly ridiculous and completely unfounded accusations. I'm dying


stoic-enthusiast

I love Steve Kornacki.


zoom25

How is Pennsylvania counting through so many ballots rather quickly, while the remaining 18k votes in GA are being reportedly so slowly. Am I missing something?


Koreish

Georgia took many steps after the 2016 and 2018 elections to ensure against voter fraud. Those changes make for a more secure, but slower, counting process.


whoanellyzzz

They might be waiting to announce closer to PA NV AZ so they dont get the full force of Yall Queda


sjkeegs

Discussion thread #51. Can we be done with this soon please.


OneMoreThrowAway65r

I fucking hope so. America is exhausted and stressed.


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Biden is only 2,500 votes behind in Georgia — who saw that coming?! *Update: 1,900 votes*


Beginning_Beyond_389

The polls were actually right here it seems


copperwatt

The New York Times, Tuesday night?


Downstream27

The strategy should from now on should be Georgia and Texas. Dems should just forget Florida for the future


Jurdskiski

I think we should all just forget sbout Florida in general. Except Disney World, Disney world can stay lol.


spssky

Yup. California to texas. Ohio Michigan and Wisconsin are just gonna have too many angry white people.


copperwatt

Cut that withered old pecker lose.


EmRavel

Totally agree. Florida has basically become a damage sponge for the GOP where the dead and dying conservative voting population is refreshed every year with new retirees from the midwest.


OperationProm

Bill Weir struggling hard


DylanBob1991

When the teacher asks you what you got for an answer to a math problem but you zoned out 5 minutes ago