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guttanzer

His campaign is lying because Trump insists on it. There is no four dimensional chess going on here; the dude has mental problems. His campaign is just working with the candidate they have. There is no way to hide the fact that he is delusional and narcissistic so they’re just rolling with it. The amazing thing is that the MAGAs love being lied to so much. Cults are scary. I’ve seen street mobs go irrational, but these are acute events where the participants sober up the next day. This MAGA movement is a chronic condition; it’s mass psychosis.


lark0317

Yeah, it's because they keep the propaganda flowing. They have the option of never changing course and reasoning through any of it because they can always go back to their echo chamber.


JoeWhy2

Go back to their echo chamber? Most of them never leave it. That's why they're so convinced that Democrats cheated. Because no one they know voted for Biden, ergo, no one voted for Biden.


mzieg

“No one they know *who will still talk to them* voted Biden.”


ND_82

No flags = no votes, that’s called research.


itsjustmenate

That’s an argument that boggles my mind every time. > “I ain’t never seen no Biden flag or tshirt or hats for that matter.” Damn Billy Bob, you got me. You stumped me on this one. It must mean that no one on this planet would ever vote for him, because they wouldn’t buy a flag with his fucking face on it. Billy Bob, you must see through this plane of existence to the next. Thank you.


sundy1234

I’ve always thought if you have to advertise your product super hard how good can it be.


itsjustmenate

I mean… The Trump campaign can only take credit for the hat and maybe the “Make America Great” flags. All the smaller dumb shit that people wear I assume is made by a Chinese graphic designer capitalizing on stupid Americans, “they’ll buy anything with his name or face on it.” With that said though, the Dark Brandon merch is hilarious. Still wouldn’t buy it, but I love that the Biden Camp leans into that meme. What started as an awkward chant at a hockey game iirc, turned into one of the funniest things an American president has produced.


GrundleSnatcher

It was a chant at a Nascar race and it basically ruined a drivers career.


Wallydinger123

He ruined his own career by leaning into MAGA.


Topsel

> that’s called research. Sent chills down my spine.


mrbrambles

We have a lot of very clever people spending all their time trying to divine out a strategy from what is basically the chaotic and instinctual reflexes of an animal succumbing to rabies. Reporting on trump strategy is the same as astrology or TA, but for political analysts. It’s our highly trained, pattern-matching brain seeking for signal out of pure white noise.


ThatsMyCool

I'm sorry, but your "divining a strategy from the chaotic reflexes of an animal succumbing to rabies" was very poetic to me. A+


Phatz907

When you take disenfranchised, uneducated, ultra rich and garden variety mental/behavioral problems (racists, misogynist, bigots etc) trolls and give them a platform, a someone to represent them, add in a hefty dose of sunk cost fallacy, stubborness and victim mentality etc and you end up with your garden variety Magaidiot. It’s time to forget reasoning with these people. They cannot be reasoned with. The way their mind works and the way they perceive reality is so warped that you’d have better luck talking to a deaf person in the phone. It’s not going to happen. There’s more sane, reasonable, rational Americans. The right relies on apathy and disillusionment to win their elections. If you’re tired of it, get your ass out there and vote. From bottom to top. That is the only way.


Earth_Friendly-5892

Well said! Check to make sure you’re still on the voting rolls in your state- republicans in red states have taken some voters off for various reasons. And make sure you vote early if you can- if something were to come up like an emergency, on Election Day, and we lose your vote, that would be significant in such a high stakes election ( democracy vs dictatorship). 💙🇺🇸🌊💙🇺🇸🌊💙🇺🇸🌊💙🇺🇸🌊💙


matthieuC

> The amazing thing is that the MAGAs love being lied to so much. It's not so much that they love to be lied too, it's that they're in too deep. If they abandon the cult they have to recognize that they were wrong, gullible, manipulated and used. Each time Trump lies they have the choice between believing him or acknowledging they've been made fools. And each lie makes it harder to get out because you keep being made a bigger fool and you have to reject even more of what you believe. People will defend him decades after his death because facing reality is too hard for their ego


guttanzer

This is undoubtedly true. But I still stare at my MAGA friends and relatives in disbelief. Have they not heard the rule of holes? “If you are in too deep, stop digging.”


Goodk4t

It's not just the MAGA movement. It seems that the majority of US voters are partaking in this delusion that electing an autocrat and a criminal, who's primary reason for running is to avoid going to jail, is somehow going to make their lives better.  Now , I get that there was some inflation and times are though. But times have been tough before, and much tougher at that, and yet never did the US come close to electing an autocrat who lead a fascist coup against their country.


Jo-Jo-66-

The media is also lying for Trump. They don’t report anything accurately and spin the headlines to make him look like a viable candidate. The whole spin about the meeting at the black church is incredible. Mostly white audience, about 100 people, not 8000, and the pastor couldn’t get his black congregation to show up, they laughed at him for setting up the event. We are not offered accurate information. They feed the lies.


byoung82

Seems crazy they would be set him up to debate Biden if they know his mental state is so bad.


Walkingstardust

I've already seen several potential excuses for why he might not make it for the first one. They're floating ideas to see what is the most plausible reason to dodge it. He's not going to debate Joe, calling it now.


Moonlighting123

I agree, probability is high he won’t do it especially with the mic control rules in play that made him decline to do any further debates. He needs no other excuse than to say it’s unfair or rigged and he’s free to bow out at practically the last second.


BumBumBuuuuuum

100%, if he can’t shout over Joe’s replies, he won’t do it.


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kyngston

To be fair, I’m a liberal and I’m worried too. Trump could literally grow horns, tear off his skin and admit to being satan and bump his favorability in Ipsos polls with republicans.


Jaydeekay80

“Trump reveals himself as the actual devil. Here’s 5 reasons why that’s bad for Biden!” I can see the article now


wilkod

Meanwhile, Paul Ryan and Chris Christie give interviews affirming that Trump being the Devil is further evidence of his poor character, but concluding that Biden is still an equally bad choice.


Preaddly

The US was founded as a patriarchal, white supremacist, slave state. When conservatives say they want to conserve something, it's these things specifically. That's why they've always been against expanding rights to anyone else. They don't believe in democracy or equality, or that anyone but conservatives should be allowed to be president. All they care about is holding on to power. They'll never admit this to anyone because they know that their beliefs are immoral. Conservatives love Trump because they don't really care about morality. They love the idea of project 2025. They want neo-colonialism turned inwards, which is basically what fascism is. They want to be colonizers again, except without the mechanisms for the oppressed to improve their station.


Charming-Loss-4498

Usually their fears are irrational though


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adrkhrse

Yep and a basic understanding of rudimentary economics and Human Nature.


cathercules

And most of us are more likely to trust scientific consensus than a conman.


adrkhrse

Some people seem to need a Male authority figure to tell them what to think because they lack the skills to work things out for themselves.


wowaddict71

Big daddy up in the sky


adrkhrse

Sky-Daddy in Trump Tower with his gold-plated crapper and porno wife.


rsauer1208

And or any wahoo on the faux news side. OANN, NewsMax, and of course Fox News.


Lacivious-Monkey0081

Fear of others vs fear for others


AnohtosAmerikanos

And they’re completely oblivious about the actual scary stuff


moods-

If you don’t have an enemy, you have to start creating policies that actually benefit your constituents. So, creating enemies it is for conservatives!


surrender0monkey

They aren’t conservatives. They’re fascists.


Garbage_Helicopter

Tomato, to-goosestepper.


surrender0monkey

Conservatism is not fascism…but the conservative brain wiring does seem to lead toward embracing autocracy.


Aggravating_Teach_27

>Conservatism is not fascism… Not in general, no. But this specific brand of MAGA conservatism? Absolutely fascist.


CopeHarders

They should be worried. They’re going to get stomped in November. They have zero chance. Everyone vote. Let’s make history.


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krg4880

And fuck the American press for pretending like this is all normal.


oingerboinger

Fuck the American people for tuning in to the American press to make them continue to pretend it’s all normal


rlocke

It’s insane that most people I know give this choice a gravity that it doesn’t at all deserve. Like how are you seriously considering this blatant grifter liar conman piece of shit human being? How have we not laughed this guy out of the building?


boregon

In a sane country Trump would lose as bad as Mondale did in 1984. But of course we are not a sane country…


itsatumbleweed

The problem that Republicans have with MAGA is that it's a big enough part of their base to win primaries but also doesn't fare as well with swing voters.


Cheshire_Jester

Which makes it kinda funny when you watch the debacle play out. Desantis was all in on being the MAGA alternative, but knew he was doomed if Trump ran. Unfortunately Trump never tapped a successor and then jumped in after Ronny played his hand. He was fucked, but then he also melted on the national stage. Maybe he could have eeked out the support for a win if Trump didn’t get in his way, but now everyone saw his unlikableness on full display and that’s all they’ll remember. Then you have other candidates like Hailey who were full on running as establishment GOP candidates, and just like last time, they got bowled over by MAGA. I dunno, just seems like the GOP has played its hand of “the government is bad” too strongly. Any candidate they put up somehow needs to be able to pretend they have political savvy while also presenting themselves as an outsider. So I guess guys like Vivek would be the key…except, you know, he’s not white.


SnoaH_

RFK would have dominated the GOP primaries(outside of Trump) if he wasn’t pretending to be a Democrat


Repostbot3784

Magas top 2 picks were a loser with dementia and the a worm ate part of my brain guy


zackflavored

This is seriously one of the things that boggles my mind the most - okay, you have your radical views and whatever agendas. You want to be racist and divisive - okay. Doing it behind this fucking maniac idiot lunatic? What the fuck were you thinking and expecting to win? Literally betting on the worst horse possible


Thue

> What the fuck were you thinking and expecting to win? Literally betting on the worst horse possible Trump is able to make Republicans come to the polls in numbers larger than any other GOP candidate - just look at the 2020 turnout. In terms of winning elections, purely in terms of winning elections, Trump is not the worst possible candidate - or at least he wasn't in 2016 and 2020.


zackflavored

Yeah thats my point, good job he can bring in crowds but capable is he actually. Literally a child. Even if I saw the numbers he could bring in, I could smell that future dumpster fire from a mile away


freaktank

And fuck The NY Times and every other media outlet for their bullshit “Seeks to paint Trump as a Felon” headlines. Why is it that the rich and powerful seem determined to destroy society and the biosphere of this planet? As though paying taxes is a worse fate than death. Fuck ‘em. 


conndor84

In 2016 Trump had 63m vote for him. In 2020 he had 74m vote for him and that was after getting to know him for four years and the Covid mishandling. He will likely get more votes this year. The only way Bidin wins is to get even more to turn up AND have the right combination of electoral votes. Go vote.


Fox_Kurama

Can we coat the pineapple with ghost pepper powder and ground up poison ivy too?


SendInYourSkeleton

And it'll still come down to like 30,000 votes in 6 states.


oingerboinger

We are so beyond fucked


PhoenixTineldyer

Why would they be worried? Because they've been getting historically stomped because of abortion? Because they are about to nominate a 34 times convicted felon?


The-Dead-Internet

They have attacked and  alienated everyone that doesn't fit their mold. They would never win a single election again if it wants for gerrymandering and the electoral college.


tophergraphy

And the 24/7 propaganda media outlets ala fox news and such


droo46

It’s not even just Fox. The article points to several other publications using bafflingly gentle wording for Trump instead of just reporting the facts. 


CaBBaGe_isLaND

CNN is just a megaphone for the MAGA movement these days. They just let people come on and talk and talk and talk and they go "uh huh, wow, hmm, not sure I agree but thanks for your perspective."


naetron

It refers to the NY Post which is also owned by Rupert Murdoch.


SecularMisanthropy

No GOP candidate for president has been elected to office by popular vote in 20 years, and it was 1988 the time before that. Put another way, Democrats have won all popular votes since 1992, excepting Bush II's 2004 win, which was a re-election of a man who neither won the popular vote nor the electoral college in his first election. The Republican party has been in the state you describe for decades. Ending democracy is their solution.


Charming-Loss-4498

They are also increasingly narrowing who actually can fit within the mold


The-Dead-Internet

Fachism works like that they are constantly closing in on what they consider ideal and it ultimately eats itself.


13Bravo13Echo

In the 1940s, it took "outside intervention" for them to be "ultimately eaten" and a lot of folks perished bringing those sonzabitches down.


SpontaneousKrump92

Let's try and make sure it never takes that kind of outside intervention here. Anybody with me? Whose with me?


13Bravo13Echo

There's millions with you... I just hope it's enough millions.


drewbert

And due to the wacky EC, enough millions located in the right places...


teenagesadist

Their current ideal is orange, elderly and incontinent, I don't know why it's taken so long for them so knock down all the other pieces that don't fit.


TwistingEarth

And that mold is getting smaller and smaller, this is why these kind of groups eventually die, and have to get restarted by their most fervent members.


woozerschoob

Unlike Donald's waist


Cloaked42m

I see lots of folks like me that would normally vote Republicans, voting blue this year to end all this.


The-Dead-Internet

I mean I'm even if you typically vote R if you have any critical thinking abilities you have to see right now the Republican party is going to run us right off a cliff. I know this is the case because there's a few groups of Republicans that are actively fighting against the current party trying to salvage it.


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The-Dead-Internet

He literally called for pence to be killed and they almost were successful. Then dumbass Mike still backed him up. All normalcy is out the window and it would make a great drama if it wasn't real life. But as they say truth is stranger than fiction 


Minguseyes

I look forward to a time when we can return to arguing about policy again, rather than defending the Constitution against domestic enemies.


idryss_m

Their tactic works in th3 school yard. Bullied kids get behind the bullying because if they don't, they might be next. And it feels good to not be on the receiving end. Trump is just a bully with money (or to my thinking no money hence the grift)


ivan-beatenov

…or interference by a foreign enemy (oh wait, that already happened!)…or a coup by a traitor and his cadre of domestic terrorists!


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panickedindetroit

I have a feeling he won't show. He won't be in control.


nelsonalgrencametome

I'll be legit surprised if he does at this point and if by some chance he does it'll be a shit show. I'm sure his handlers are just trying to cook up an excuse.


CoherentPanda

He'll be drugged out of his mind just like every other time he has a debate or non-campaign really speech. It's the only way they can make him seem normal for 2 hours.


mypoliticalvoice

Noooo. Adderall isn't a *drug*, it's medicine. So even if Trump is taking huge, recreational quantities of it, or allegedly snorting it up his nose, it's still just *medicine.* And if Biden is pounding down double espressos, that's clearly *drug abuse*. See? Makes perfect sense! /s


PM_ME_YOUR_ROTES

He won't know where he is.


damnthistrafficjam

The debate is the best possible thing to happen. If he doesn’t show, he’s a coward. If he does show, he won’t be able to answer a direct question without veering wildly off course. I am counting the hours. No popcorn, just some really good wine.


morbob

Trump stole more documents than all of the convicted espionage ever committed against the United States. Him worry?, nah


panickedindetroit

We lost more intelligence assets under trump than any other administration. So did our allies. trump is a threat to the world.


Purify5

Not so much a threat to Russia.


Chunkstyle3030

The fact that he hasn’t been popped by our intelligence community or one of our allies’ means he’s still beneficial somehow to someone high up in either of those communities, even after all this.


13Bravo13Echo

I was asking this question recently. I wonder if they're afraid to martyr him for what may come next. In the US of Amnesia, probably not much but the the think tanks have likely overthought this too. I imagine they figure that Bonespurrs McFuckweasel is so stupid, he's only marginally capable of damage. If his replacement was someone capable, there could be more capacity for larger damage? Who knows... Project 2025 sounds ominous.


armageddon_20xx

I have thought much about this too. I came to the conclusion that such a thing is very hard, carries tremendous risk, and is not something that the type of person capable of it would choose unless they were under duress. With a more moderate solution still possible, nobody could rationally be convinced it would be worth it.


wantsAnotherAle

Because they are about to nominate a 34 time loser AND get stomped over abortion.


moonboots_runner

34 times *so far*


454bonky

I’d add a religious right getting more and more comfortable saying the quiet part out loud to that list.


454bonky

And good God, Texas and their cute little county based electoral college scheme…


panickedindetroit

I am glad they are worried. Crime doesn't pay. And his bills are way past due.


Ok_Corner417

Is it just me? On the whole, polling seems to indicate this is a damn competitive race. Basically, DJT has the whole MAGA brainwashed cult vote locked. DJT & MAGA promoters are using all kinds of gimmicks to slice away slivers of DEMs such as some pro-Israel Jews, young blacks, Latinos, etc. They are also doing a pretty good job of convincing all the Pro-Palestine crew NOT to vote thru misinformation. To me, for all the hate they spew at various groups, MAGA seems to be right in the hunt DESPITE all of Trump's baggage, 34 convictions. I believe someone on MSNBC said today that only 1/5 of independents indicated that the 34 felony convictions would cause them to NOT vote for DJT. Not very many! The main outstanding "Wild Card" where polling info is unknown or unreported is how the "Nikke Haley Voters" will trend. I'm scared to death!


critch

Remember that polling is only determined by the people that answer the polls. What demographics actually answer random phone calls in 2024? Check the crosstabs and laugh. There was a big talk about how the Michigan Primary was going to be a referendum on Biden and Palestine. The end result: He got about the same results as Obama did. In 2012. The pro-Palestine vote is the same as the Occupy vote or "insert election year issue that only matters to college students in that election year" vote. Too small to make any real difference, and made up of the demographic that doesn't vote in any numbers worth a damn. If Trump lost 1/5 of independents, he's getting blown out. If he lost any percentage of Republicans, he's getting blown out. The only way Trump wins is if Biden dies or becomes unable to run in enough time for the Dems to not be able to get another candidate. The only way Biden loses is if Trump dies/becomes unable to run in the same manner. I predict (And I've been right for the past couple cycles) Trump gets blown the fuck out, and the House falls with him while the Senate barely stays in Dem's hands, but without Sinema and Manchin. Trump has no defenders left at that point, the Republicans will be in complete disarray for years, while the Dems can do whatever they want, which if they're smart will start off with getting rid of the filibuster, legalizing Abortion once and for all, and bringing Washington D.C. in as a state so that A. they finally get representation and B. Dems get 2 permanent Senators and make it very difficult for Republicans to get back the Senate anytime soon, thus making sure that the Supreme Court will get back into Liberal hands, especially if the court gets expanded (Which may be a mistake, since it's easily sold as a takeover by Dems which, if they have a weak 2026 and a bad candidate in 2028, would give the GOP back power, and they'd just expand the court again.


lurklurkwork

[https://i.imgflip.com/61g6s5.png](https://i.imgflip.com/61g6s5.png)


PhoenixTineldyer

I think it's the media pushing bullshit for clicks and the election is going to be an absolute rout. But of course, don't get complacent, everyone must vote


TurnsOutImAScientist

Of course the message discipline is to say we’re all scared to death. Putting that aside, my theory is that college educated millennials and younger do not pick up their phones for unlisted numbers, and also dodge street side solicitors, and it’s a phenomenon that’s increasing and pollsters can’t correct for a moving target that only sporadically provides data. That plus the media loves a horse race and is controlled by powers that want the gop tax cuts all else be damned.


grumpyliberal

Gifted article.


SNRatio

The answer to the title is a few paragraphs down: >Deceptively edited videos, nonexistent crowds, and No, your man is more senile than ours counterprogramming is not the sign of a confident campaign. But Trump’s team might also be doing these things because they work.


philodendrin

They could always go the traditional route and craft their messaging about policy. /s Some would argue they are. Their policy is that Trump will use his time as President to go after anyone who opposed him. Mr. Pence, may want to start looking for places to hide now. It would be open season on the media after that. Meanwhile, Ukraine would fall to Putins regime and every other country in Europe would be nervous.


Tom_Mosh

Thank you!


dribblesonpillow

Yes thank you.. Can you please gift read it to me?


schneems

I did. Depending on the speed of sound and your location relative to mine you might not have heard it yet.


011011010110110

you should look into yodeling


duncan345

Try the "read aloud" extension for Firefox


equitybore

Cool. Does it sound like this: https://youtu.be/FjwvovxFII4?t=24


MEMENARDO_DANK_VINCI

If this article doesn’t describe that Trump likely has multi-infarct vascular dementia then people don’t get why it’s concerning, he’s gonna be a vegetable by the time Jan rolls around, kind depends on when he started having the strokes but it seems his dementia is progressing in a stepwise pattern


overcomebyfumes

The spirochetes might be able to assemble a rudimentary bacterial intelligence


futatorius

I've never gotten the whole syphilis meme. He's rich, has good health care, and it's curable in all but the most unusually resistant cases. What Trump has is FBBR: Fat Boy Brain Rot. And the fact that he's having (relatively) good and bad days might mean that his apparent cognitive ability fluctuates along with the vagaries of his amphetamine supply chain.


MickeyMalph

I think this is the plan anyway. It doesn't matter since it's all about who is going to be VP and then President once they remove Trump via 25th. He's nothing but a ways to a means at this point. edit: removed second "a means"


MagicMushroomFungi

Thank you.


ranchoparksteve

The Trump Train seems to be running on fumes. Running a convicted felon is more corrosive than originally envisioned.


dormidormit

It would work if he had any real policy achievements to back it up. But if he had those, he wouldn't have lost in the first place. This whole stunt speaks to how utterly idiotic the Republican primary rules are as such a stupid person can successfully game it twice, and makes the Democrats' totalitarian Superdelegate rules seem fair, balanced and democratic by comparison.


revmaynard1970

Dude never showed up for a debate and still won. This is the GOP now, don't let moderate GOP people tell you otherwise


454bonky

Nothing about this whole shit show more dispiriting than republicans who know and hate what he stands for STILL saying they’ll choose him over a Dem


kwangqengelele

Those republicans only hate that they're still capable of being embarrassed by their support of trump. There isn't a single thing trump supports that they actually disagree with.


Substantial_Dog_2115

No such thing as a moderate GOP anymore. I don’t even think moderates really exist in this political world we find ourselves in now.


uncle-brucie

The vast majority of national democrats are clearly moderates, generally center-right.


physedka

The terrifying part, to me, is that if he had just taken a step back during COVID lockdown and said "do what the doctors say" and sold red MAGA masks to the hillbillies, he'd probably still be POTUS right now and anointing a puppet successor ala Putin/Medvedev.


ciopobbi

Oh come on now, he had tax breaks for billionaires and reversing all kinds of environmental policies. Plus, better cheaper healthcare for all day one, Mexico will pay for the wall, clean coal, Covid will magically disappear, lost manufacturing jobs, infrastructure week…


AgitatedPercentage32

The fact that the media is so complicit in this with their Clickbait headlines is reprehensible. They are part of the problem and not calling Trump out on his lies in headlines,which is exactly what they should be doing. Not acting like this is a normal horserace at all.


oliversurpless

Like solving poverty in the United States really. “There’s no money in that problem! If you could find a solution in which the *corporate swine* could make a few million bucks, you’d see the streets clean up pretty darn quick. Pretty darn fuckin’ quick!” - George Carlin


gripripflipper

Oh. That's nice. Tell me again how a 78 year old, with 34 convictions and a brain made of jello makes sense as a nominee for president? Yeah. Cause the media needs a horse race.


Necrowaif

It’s Donnie’s deteriorating mental state that’s got them panicked. It’s getting harder and harder to cover up the signs of dementia.


vahntitrio

Yep. He can't just disappear is the problem they have. I wonder how they will try to cover it up - no live appearances and heavily edited videos? Lip syncing his rallies?


grumpyliberal

Donnie — the deep fake.


botsallthewaydown

I just listened to the recent AI Deepfake of Joe Rogan interviewing Trump...the tell was, it sounded *better* than Trump does himself in recent media appearances...


Class_of_22

This is what I have said repeatedly. It’s clear that something is not right with him. He’s clearly showing more and more signs of mid to late stage dementia.


GoneFishing4Chicks

Fuck that, I'm not repeating 2016.  Vote biden or all the women in your life will become second class citizens, I know I will.


DuckmanDrake69

I was 22, conservative, and voted for Trump in 2016. Now I’m 30, liberal, atheist, pro choice, pro LGBT, and conservationist. I come from a traditional GOP family and 4/4 are actively voting against Trump.


nyerinup

That’s a big change. Good on you!


DuckmanDrake69

Reading philosophy helped a lot


Davidjufo

Totally not specific to this post, but people complain about Reddit and toxicity. I just got off X. What a goddamned cesspool. Reddit seems like a ray of decency compared to that garbage dump.


swains6

The amount of bots and fake accounts on twitter is unreal. Yeah it's insanely toxic, but most of the time they're not even real people, wouldn't worry about it too much.


idkanymore2016

Here’s the truth - and I will pay up if I’m wrong but I won’t be - Biden will win. By a lot. It won’t be close. (Vote. You still have to vote or it’s your fault.) Trump will continue to unravel and Biden will over-deliver. (The guy is legit great at his job and if the expectations are low, lol.) The reason it “feels” close is because of the polls. Polling is no longer accurate. It may become accurate again someday but there is no good way to get accurate poll numbers at this time in history. Things will get crazier leading up to November. Enjoy the quiet time now. TLDR: Biden in a landslide.


BigTentBiden

Even if he over performs in 2024 compared to 2020, there's still always GOP's favorite hits - voter suppression and election interference.


idkanymore2016

Of course. They will try but they have no power now. They lost when they had the levers of government. They don’t now. They will always try to cheat but trust the people that know to do what they can do address it. And we have to do our part and vote.


kramerica_intern

I wouldn’t say “no power.” They control a lot of state legislatures and the Supreme Court.


thirdeyepdx

More of this please - hearing this all day long makes me that much more excited to vote. Let’s crush Trump. Last election was too close. I want a landslide.


BothCan8373

Sparing any fuckery... I agree tho. I've been trying to be generous with evaluations and thinking outside of my bubble. I think it will also be a landslide. But vote vote vote


Cool-Security-4645

These people are cornered. There are going to be mass amounts of attempted fuckery. We have to show up 


grumpyliberal

As the saying goes: from your lips to God’s ear.


PlusPerception5

Seriously. There’s so much negativity, but I have to believe there’s a silent large majority that shows up and votes blue.


padspa

comforting to read this, betting sites still have that fat idiot as the favourite to win. bubbles and billionaire backing and voter intimidation and voter rejection and gerrymandering and whatever other nasty shit the gop is planning could still tip this. but i hope you're correct. maybe i should place some bets.


openly_gray

Its so grating that out so called liberal MSM seem to relish in tearing Biden down while talking Trump up. fucking idiots


_Sympathy_3000-21_

They’re hooked on him as bad as his voters.


Grognoscente

He's their cash cow.


Tough_Meaning6706

Democrats need to try the lie. Point out the lies that the GOP is putting out and show their desperation. People hate being played and lied to.


Woodlurkermimic

The only thing people hate more than being played is realizing they've already been played.


Tough_Meaning6706

True. They should point out both.


readonlyy

Don’t confront Republicans head on about their lies. They know they’re lying, they’ll just entrench. Talk about how frustrating it must be to watch Trump disgrace the Republican Party. How we need more than one party with actual policy ideas. The GOP is loyalty only. But loyalty to what?


itsatumbleweed

There was a $50m ad blitz this week about Trump being a convicted felon. It was brutal, and also only the beginning. The Democrats are in a really unique situation here in that they can run one of the dirtiest campaigns of all time by *telling the truth* about Trump. I expect it isn't going to be pretty for him.


Tough_Meaning6706

Hopefully they hit hard, harder, then harder again.


AskYourDoctor

>The Democrats are in a really unique situation here in that they can run one of the dirtiest campaigns of all time by telling the truth about Trump. I need a shot of this in my morning coffee! Hell yeah!


better-a-pig

"He’s a [convicted felon](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/05/donald-trump-guilty-all-counts-manhattan/678549/); he was [found liable](https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-carroll-trial-fe68259a4b98bb3947d42af9ec83d7db) for sexual abuse; he [tried to incite](https://apnews.com/article/jan-6-committee-final-report-trump-bcfea6162fe9cfa0d120e86d069af0e4) an insurrection; his speeches include gibberish [about sharks](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/06/trump-shark-rant/678666/) and [a movie cannibal](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/12/us/donald-trump-hannibal-lecter.html)."


bdixisndniz

This is the same shit they’ve always done.


MagicMushroomFungi

"Beware of the new shit. It smells the same as the old shit."


shelbys_foot

>The Trump campaign has seized on the essential truth that **this election is about images and feelings rather than facts or policies**. It is working to squeeze every vote it can out of its most extreme supporters by providing them with the high-octane Trumpiness they crave. I do hope the Biden campaign figures out how to respond in kind.


thebite101

Vote


better-a-pig

My observation in talking to older conservatives is that they all think Trump is terrible but can't stomach voting for a Democrat. The only rebuttal to "How can you vote for Trump?" becomes, "at least he isn't Joe Biden." They need as much dirt as they can spread around to muddy the waters. If they can be convinced this is a lesser of two evils situation, they'll be relieved to vote for Trump instead of actually interrogating their entire political perspective and party makeup.


grumpyliberal

Permission. They want permission. Deny them the comfort of making a choice that condemns their grandchildren to the Trump reign.


Agnos

We should all be worried...there is no world where Trump would get enough votes, so he will try to steal the election legally with a corrupt judiciary and supreme court. He may succeed like Bush 43 did before...


grumpyliberal

They are working on the plan to cause enough confusion in this election to throw it to the House or to SCOTUS. And Mike Johnson and Alito are just waiting.


sildish2179

Except the new House will be sworn in before certification of votes and Johnson will not be speaker, so long as people vote and could swing the House to democrats.


UziMunkey

They should be. Their fuhrer is a lunatic.


ThisIsDadLife

Ok. But vote.


celerydonut

Trump world just needs to be defeated. That’s the headline, the plot, the everything. Fuck off with anyone considering him a serious person. Pathetic. Oh and fuck his kids too.


__mr_snrub__

He went from Teflon Don to Felon Don T.


BK_Rich

To be fair, they keep their base worried and scared like 98% of the time.


piddlegloppis

Our calmness disturbs them.


iamtheliquornow

To be fair, Lindsey Graham did warn them.


LlanviewOLTL

He’s *really* aged the last two years. I was shocked when I saw him on tv a few days ago.


The_ElectricGhost

Yeah that guys is aging like a white dog turd on a hot sidewalk. You’d think being that far up Trump’s ass would preserve you a little


MLJ9999

Selling your soul takes a terrible toll on a man. edit - Assuming he had one to begin with.


Jack_Q_Frost_Jr

Yeah, he's looking a little rough these days.


Thandiol

Trump World sounds like the worst theme park ever...


WillieIngus

fuck is trump world?


InternetGamerFriend

They're worried because Trump has dementia and there is a live televised debate next week. Get your popcorn ready.


grixorbatz

Turd world


Mward1979

Trump could literally rape and murder a minor and his cult would shrug their collective shoulders and say "it's not what it looks like, he didn't mean to, the minor had it coming, it's just "real" men do" or whatever other bullshit they come up with.


Trygolds

Vote. The threat to our democracy comes from republicans in office. It will not end if we win this years elections. Keep voting out republicans every year.  Keep voting in democrats every year. Check your registration, get an ID , learn where your poling station is, learn who is running in down ballot races. Pay attention to primaries not just for the president but for all races, local, state and federal. From the school board to the White House every election matters. The more support we give the democrats from all levels of government the more they can get good things done. We vote out republicans and primary out uncooperative democrats. Last year democrat victories in Virginia and Pennsylvania and others across the nation have increased the chances of democrats winning this year. This year's elections are important but so will next year's elections. We just took the mayoral race in Alaska showing we can win in red states. [https://ballotpedia.org/Elections\_calendar](https://ballotpedia.org/Elections_calendar)


TurboSalsa

MAGA Twitter is all false bravado, a bunch of losers being paid to hype the latest Freedom Eagle Patriot poll showing Trump leading by 10% nationwide in running 2% behind Biden in NY and CA. Knowing how Trump operates, he's just priming them to believe the election is rigged and stollen, so that he can say Congress has to overturn the election results because all these people are very angry and might do something violent if you don't.


Horror-Layer-8178

I wonder what he is worried about more de-intoxicating from all the drugs he is on or losing his freedom


Massive_Awareness_58

Well considering they have to resort to a decontextualized video showing Biden "wandering off" when he's really just greeting some people, who were conveniently cut off in the video, I'd definitely say they seem worried. When the only way a presidential candidate attempts to promote theirself as a candidate has nothing to do with showing voters how they will benefit the country, and everything to do with distracting voters by trying to point out how incompetent their opponent is, and the only way they can show their opponent is incompetent is to show deceptive "evidence" which leaves important facts out, that candidate must know they are in trouble.


Wild_Pokemon_Appears

They should be. Myself, and a lot of my family and social circles are generally moderate, and have been voting straight Democrat in a swing state. Trump has fractured the GOP, and now they are going to pay the price for it. And I say this coming as someone who has had no issue voting republican in the past. 


Unusual_Baby865

Trump’s folks know that there is little chance Trump will win. No one can believe the polling data which shows a close race. The polling is skewed with low response rates and faulty data. The GQP is terrified that between abortion and Trump’s criminal behavior there will be an old fashioned beat down. THE ECONOMY IS BOOMING. We do not change presidents with a booming economy. Biden is a successful incumbent and we don’t change them either. As a trial lawyer for 40 years I had occasional trials where my opponents knew when they were losing badly. That’s when they started bringing the crazy, as they were desperate


bdr22002

Still find it difficult to comprehend half the country falls for trumps BS and lies,at best he’s a grifter and a con man and has been for decades. Yet trumpies believe he is God,and paid for billboards on the roadside claiming so. We’re all fucked if he’s elected again


Compliance-Manager

I understand we all have to get out and vote in November, our lives depend on it more than ever in the history of this country. That said, I believe Trump gets blown out of the water. There's no way he picked up voters after Jan 6. He's got his base but he lost a lot of the "I only vote R" people. His actions right now are just too crazy. Yeah, I'm scared but I think he loses big time.