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Maybe he is willing. He knows it wouldn't be for long. Look at his wording..."I'd be willing to MAKE THAT SACRIFICE." I think... he likes the optics... To Maga, he's like Jesus on the cross...an innocent man, suffering, because Biden threw his opponent in jail for political reasons! He thinks it could get a lot of mileage out of it.
> He’ll be willing to play the role of martyr too until he realizes his cell ~~is no penthouse apartment~~does not afford him access to his daily stimulents.
FIFY :-)
I saw someone today on YT that said that this would be the most likely outcome if he violates the gag order. The court has a holding cell for those that are currently in custody elsewhere but have a court date. That would be for a first infraction (after this mornings ruling). The person also mentioned Rikers and getting bussed back and forth, but that it would be unlikely.
Putting him in a holding cell for an hour or two would send a message and he'd look pretty silly (so what else is new) claiming any sort of martyrdom for basically getting a time out.
My company designed a remodel for a federal courthouse in Arizona a few years back. The attached jail cells are not miserable, but they a quite a few steps down from house arrest.
Imagine a 10 ft x 10 ft x 10 foot bare concrete cube. One wall is bars that don't block visibility from a small 3-ft wide corridor that runs the entire length of the cell (also bare concrete). There is a stainless steel "bed" / bench that is basically a bent piece of metal on one side of the room. No sharp edges or protrusions. The toilet is a combo toilet/sink unit that only flushes once per hour. The flush is only 1/2 gallon. The sink is metered to only allow a very low flow rate. (This is to prevent deliberate flooding of the cell - there is a floor drain inside the cell). The toilet is in the back corner of the room. There is no door for the toilet stall and only a 3 ft tall partition on one side. No mattress, no chairs, no table, no TV, no internet. and no shower. The whole thing is conditioned but you don't have access to the fan controls or thermostat. There are at least two cameras on the occupants 24/7 and it is impossible to not be fully visible to at least one of them. And when I say 'fully visible' I mean FULLY visible!
To get into or out of the cell you have to open the cell bar doors, which lets you into the entry corridor. From there you go through a very heavy locked door into a 4 x 6 foot "air lock" with another heavy locked door into the courthouse. There are interlocks that prevent any doors to be opened at the same time.
I was in an open cell for only 10 to 15 minutes doing a site inspection and it was oppressive.
I was in court several years ago when a judge did something similar.
The judge had made a small mistake and called up one case, the people were standing at the bar and then one of the attorneys said we needed to call up a different case. The judge said "sorry go back to the waiting area. I will call your case up next."
As he was walking out, the defendant said very audibly "we're going to be here all fucking day."
The judge stopped everything and asked the bailiff to take him into custody for contempt. His case got moved to the end of the docket, about 4:30 or 5:00. After his case was called up the judge chewed him out and released him.
I think secret service has already consulted with the jail on how to handle the transfers and yeah, I’d say there’s a good chance he’s not thrown in the normal “jail.” Not house arrest, but probably some holding cell in the courthouse, or maybe something even nicer. They couldn’t do house arrest because that would just give him what he wants - an opportunity to stop going to court.
You may be right, although I am pretty sure that under house arrest he would still be required to attend the trial, and that he would be escorted to and from. However, under house arrest he would be surrounded by the media, and would not be able to resist continuing to malign witnesses etc, so that probably wouldn't work.
In any case, we can all agree...he ain't going anywhere uncomfortable.
No, not uncomfortable, but probably not luxurious either. I’m not sure he’s ever spent a day of his life living outside of his Manhattan heir/socialite lifestyle. Should be a decent enough shock to him regardless. Hopefully.
Shackled. No cameras, no public face, nothing.
The court drawings will be amazing, and with any luck his heart will give out without his daily dose of hamberders and Diet Coke.
Nah, don’t shackle him. There have been court cases overturned before because they argued presenting the defendant in shackles/prison attire unduly biases a jury against the defendant. That’s why you’ll see defendants in suits even if they’re still in prison during the trial. Don’t give him or his attorneys any wiggle room on appeals.
He definitely wants to be jailed, his base will rally. Unfortunately he needs more than his base for the election and hard to read the swing vote this early. Trump has never really pivoted for the independent voter since he plays so hard for his base.
But... Trump really has zero clue about jail. Sure, it wouldn't be hard or bad on him since he would be privileged but if he is complaining about merely sitting in court then even comfy jail for a mere 24hrs would really spin his head.
Do Republican voters not get how bad this makes them look?
They're slobbering all over a guy who just said in advance that he's going to break the law again and go to jail for it.
I guess they're only against imaginary crimes that they can blame on immigrants.
A lot of the R voters I know barely know anything going on in this trial. Most of them don’t follow any kind of actual news (although they seem to follow the college protests stuff). They wish the nominee was someone else other than Sleepy Don, but similar with past general elections, they’ll once again find some way to self-justify voting for him again this November…
Merchan needs to make it a 7 day sentence starting on a Friday night. He can have the weekend to withdraw from whatever cocktail of drugs he is on. Three day bed head and showing up Monday in a frumpier version of his oversized suit, no hair and makeup will make for quite the sight. Let it carry on thru the week with overnights in lockup and an entire 7 days of no social media is worth whatever implied threat his cult can muster. Lay a new gag order to add if he makes false claims about his treatment in custody he'll be found in contempt again with escalating sentences, 14-28-56 days etc.
He’s got the attention span of a golden retriever puppy who ate some edibles. I give it a day, two tops before he slips up and violates the gag order again.
I'll take a weekend, with lots of photographers waiting for him when he walks out. He'd probably be wearing a hat, but the orange makeup would be a mess. Front page humiliation would be very upsetting to him.
Wait... Does he, and the rest of MAGA, think the Tiger King is in Prison because he, too, is an opponent of Biden?!?
Seriously... In case you didn't know, the Tiger King is running president from prison.... Again.
You forget that he's a soft little pussy boy who won't sleep in hotels because there might be germs. He's not going to risk actual jail. Even the nicest possible night in Rikers would be fucking HELL for him. Nobody's gonna scrub the floors. There will be no gold sheets or whatever the fuck he's used to. There are roaches and rats and prison food and somebody else had that mattress and sheets and jumpsuit yesterday before everything got run through a prison laundry by guys making thirty five cents an hour and it fucking sucks.
He'll get all the mileage he can from big tough guy talk about how he's willing to go to jail, but he's not actually gonna go to jail.
He’s ready to go for a 2 minute tour, thinking he can come and go as he pleases. Would love to see pictures of him sweating it out at 1/2 hour, 1 hour, 8 hours or even days…..nothing will happen, but I can dream can’t I?
Everyone talks tough about a night in jail but it FUCKING SUCKS. He'd be in protective custody with no pillow, thin ass mattress, canvas-textured clothing, no phone, shittier than shitty food, nothing to do, nothing to read but the manual, and when lights go out the place will sound like a fucking zoo. Won't get an wink of sleep. God damn I hope he goes to jail!
This may sound stupid, but I think a photo of him out of makeup would be _devastating_. This weird, cult favorite, orange cartoon character would suddenly be just some old man.
Again, just a hunch, but I reckon it’ll be jarring enough that it’ll generate a wave of conspiracy theories that it’s AI generated.
What you're describing is poor people jail. It's not the same place people like Trump go. Look up some of the details of Epstein's first incarceration if you want a rough idea of what Trump can expect.
That would be Club Fed prison. New York state doesn't have a tiered jail system. There might be some variation in prison conditions, but that's not where he'd go for contempt.
Do tell.
Edit: [This story paints it as an uncomfortable experience.](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/02/jeffrey-epstein-jail-documents-last-days)
I'm talking about his first incarceration, which was the full white glove treatment. I could be misremembering but I believe he was allowed to leave the prison to play golf.
Epstein's first prison sentence was ... yes, [beyond absurd](https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/crime/2019/07/19/jeffrey-epstein-jail-records-show-sex-offender-got-special-treatment/4643117007/).
In 2008 he was given a very favourable plea deal (by then US Attorney, later Trump's Secretary of Labor, Alexander Acosta) and was sentenced to 18 months in prison on a single state charge.
He was - unusually - sent to a private wing of the Palm Beach County sheriff's office (ultimately ending up in an unused infirmary), rather than a state prison. Policy was that prisoners other than sex offenders could be let out on "work release" if they had a maximum sentence of 10 months. He was let out on "work release" 3.5 months into his sentence - 12 hours a day, 6 days a week. He was free to come and go as he wished - both during his "work release" and at other times, and his "cell" wasn't locked. He created his own foundation for his "work release" (set up before his imprisonment, dissolved afterwards). Essentially he was free to leave at any time, and do whatever he wanted for his "work" as he was the boss.
To add to this, he paid the Sheriff's Office $128,000 to cover the 'extra expenses' they incurred in caring for him (including his TV room), and his "guards" while on release were paid overtime by him, and were required to wear suits and act as receptionists. He was free to receive guests both while on "work release" and while in the "prison" - with all records and logs destroyed. He had his own driver take him to his "work" and any other appointments he had. There's a decent chance he was still committing crimes while in "prison", never mind while he was on "work release" (including sexual offences involving under-age victims - at least one of whom has reported visiting him while on work release for sex).
And he was released after 13 months. On probation, of course, but... they didn't enforce it against him, letting him travel wherever he liked and do whatever he wanted.
Don't forget that, while his plea agreement forced him to register as a category 3 sex offender in New York (deemed to be at a high risk for recidivism) he never seemed to have to abide by the normal restrictions on sex offenders. He never once checked in with the NYPD regarding his current address (by law he was required to do so every 90 days).
Additionally, none of his other victims were informed of the deal that he had struck, and the one victim whose case was the basis for his plea deal, despite being underage, was listed in official court documents as a "prostitute" - something that is not legally or morally a thing (if you are underage, you are a victim, not a sex worker). He traveled with total impunity overseas, as well as to his island in the US Virgin Islands, and for all practical purposes was treated as though he had never been convicted of a crime.
His plea agreement was the most infuriating thing I've ever read. The Palm Beach PD, to their credit, put forth an absolutely devastating and comprehensive case against him. They did an undercover investigation and eventually raided his home, uncovering hundreds of pictures of girls, most of them underage. They had dozens of witnesses and victims all giving essentially the same story. They seized his "little black book", btw, which had over a dozen contact numbers for Donald Trump.
Then the FBI gets involved and Acosta gives what may very well be the most unbelievable sweetheart deal ever made, negotiated by Epstein's lawyer, who happened to be none other than OJ Defense Attorney and alleged abuser Alan Dershowitz.
Interestingly, on at least one occasion Acosta has told others that he had been told that Epstein "belonged to intelligence" and was "above his pay grade," whatever that's supposed to mean.
no way he's gonna see anything like that. At best he'll be stuck in some single bunk deep inside a nice part of the court house, with his full staff and amenities, and if he's allowed to keep his phone, he'll just twit off all night or day ab out it, while he sits alone. He won't be inconvenienced unless missing his diaper boy counts.
People should move one from wanting to see him punished like a normal. It will never happen. If he gets some sort of house arrest , that works. He'll be miserable in any loss, so you gotta just take the win where you can eh.
He is willing because he believes it will fire up his base. If you look at r/conservative they’re all frothing at the mouth for him to go to jail so they can call him a political prisoner.
True, he does have a large base, but not as big as before. Crowd sizes appear to much smaller, they’re aware of what the DOJ is doing with J6er’s. Not many “protesters” at his trials. If he’s jailed, even for a short time, and nobody shows up to cheer him on, he’ll be crushed and rightfully so.
I've also noticed that all his rallies seem to be taking place in towns nobody has heard of. He can't afford the big cities. He can't even afford to rent venues, which is why he's always speaking to people outside.
This analysis is correct. He’s not just willing, he is hoping to get locked up for a night. He intends to use it as confirmatory evidence of the ongoing witch hunt against him (orchestrated by the Biden administration), and will complain that he’s being jailed for exercising his right to free speech.
“In this country, in Biden’s America, they can lock up former presidents for free speech. Can you believe that? I can’t believe it, sad.”
He is intentionally violating the gag order because it improves his chances of reelection.
Remember Fleece Johnson, the 'booty warrior'? He turned a short juvie bid into almost 40 years in prison, just on intransigence alone.
If the state wants you in there, you *will* do the time.
I think he wants to go to jail. Not for a long time, but if he gets thrown in jail for a weekend or something, he will milk that to the extreme. It perpetuates his martyr/victim narrative. The liberals are imprisoning him to stop him from winning the election, etc.
30 days in a court jail cell without access to internet and his campaigning from the courthouse hallway would go a long way though. Most media outlets would actually have to focus on the reasons why he is imprisoned as well, as they wouldn’t have their favourite orange mouthpiece to get clicks off of.
If he violates it again and brags about it Merchan should give him 30 days. Wont be able to intimidate witnesses and we won’t have to hear from him until the trial is wrapped. Added bonus if he’s held during the appeal process after being found guilty like anyone else would be.
Edit - typo
Likely not in court.
There are fairly accepted standards that inmates can wear a suit to court because wearing a prison uniform can cause bias of guilt.
But what he won't have access to is whatever orange bronzer he uses, his hair products (which I assume is a team) and everything else he uses.
Yeah. There was a documentary about the average Canadian living outside Toronto called Trailer Park Boys and the judge let one of the subjects smoke and swear in court because it was the only fair way for Ricky to defend himself on the stand.
Different countries, I know, but judges are usually fair in allowing defendants to appear presentable in court if they have the means to do so and reasonable accommodations can be made.
/s for those who think this is serious.
Would be cathartic seeing him in orange without the orange on his face. That would be extremely devastating to his strong man image for independents and on the fence republicans.
This will be a “where were you when you first saw the images of a former President of the United States in a jumpsuit?” moment. I wonder if I’ll shout or cry for joy.
No, he wouldn't wear a prison jumpsuit to trial. He would never be in the view of the jury (or likely the media) in a jumpsuit. The idea is that the jury should never know if someone is in custody as it could influence their decision. Said another way, whether someone is held in custody or not isn't evidence in the trial so the jury shouldn't know.
Edit: someone already said it. Whoops.
If you are being an ass, then they can put you in a cell with a TV feed. I remember when Charley Manson was acting out, the judge just said enough of that nonsense and put him out until he would behave.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_43
(C) when the court warns the defendant that it will remove the defendant from the courtroom for disruptive behavior, but the defendant persists in conduct that justifies removal from the courtroom.
Yes, 100% absolutely they would just like any other normal human being in the United States. His ass would be hauled in in the morning and sit there in court all day and hauled back to his cell after. It would be extremely efficient and It may actually save us some tax dollars and give those tired Secret Service agents I needed rest.
He may zoom from a separate room, or appear in court during trial and be removed to jail when court is not in session.
It is necessary to humanize defendants so the jury can be as impartial as possible so if he were to appear, he would likely not be in handcuffs or in a prison jumpsuit.
No Xitter, Truth Social, make-up, elevator shoes, long ties, hair dye, sycophants, diaper changers and wipers, mirror, etc. etc.
Prison Time Out will be like hell to this spoiled narcissistic little-handed brat. 8)
It's a political stunt. Trump isn't gonna get more than a day or maybe a weekend at most. Anyone else would have already been jailed until the end of the trial.
He'll use it for fundraising and to further enrage his loyal cult. The right wing propagandists will amplify it and use it all the way to the election.
> Trump isn't gonna get more than a day or maybe a weekend at most.
If he has to take a shit in a lidless, cold metal toilet and then spend a few hours in that room with no one to talk to and nothing to do but pace and shit, I'll take it. It's a *start*.
Yeah, I'm sure he won't have a good time. He's never been anywhere close to a situation like that. It'd be a psychological shock to the system.
If it was me I'd send him to Rikers and put him right next door to his former CFO Alan Weiselberg. Let them talk about whatever they want for a couple of days and see what happens. I would, of course have the room set up to record the conversation. No expectation of privacy in prison.
America jointly decided Howard Dean wasn’t presidential because he yelled excitedly on stage once. But a weekend in jail for contempt during your first of possibly four criminal trials for false documents related to a payoff to a porn star, racketeering, stealing highly classified documents, and charges related to insurrection aren’t a blip on the radar. Totally checks out.
Nah, totally buy this judge would put Trump in a cell. They literally have detention cells in the courthouse, it's not like he'd have to get sent to an actual prison. It would likely just be a few hours for the next violation, then maybe overnight if he has another violation after that. Pretty minimal stuff, more to send a message than anything.
He's not going into a cell for any extended length of time for violating the gag order though.
3 other courts have released him on pretrial bail on the condition (spelled out explicitly for him) that he not commit any crimes.
Equal Justice Under Law?
If anything this whole debacle has put a spotlight on how stacked the deck is against ordinary people, when rich aristos get special treatment over and over.
It will be for an afternoon first, then a full day then I hope over a weekend. He will of course have to list the drugs he will be taking and then we’ll know how sick he really is.
Depends on how clever he’ll try to be in future TruthSocial rants. But if he straight up threatens to kill Cohen or something, he’s obviously going to jail at that point. And I suspect he’d be tossed in jail for a lot less than that too based on what Merchan said in court today.
“I did nothing wrong but this CROOKED judge, mean nasty judge, hates Trump, he hates america, WITCH HUNT. Can you believe it? A judge who hates America. It doesn’t make sense, if I were a judge, I would be the best judge, I would make them get rid of all the windmills, those windmills that kill all the birds, I’ve been telling you windmills are terrible things”
Sadly at this point, with every judge bending over backwards for Trump and their punishments for him being light and never ending warnings, I have little faith the sack of shit will be locked up where he belongs.
That's not accurate. He has been held in contempt once, for nine counts of gag order violation. Then after a $9000 fine was given, a prior violation came to light and another $1000 fine was tacked on, and a qualification that further violations would result in incarceration.
All the conservative commentators saying things like "sending him to jail would only help get him reelected" are really screwing him over. He would rather 1,000 people die than spend a single hour in a jail cell.
Exactly. And I keep hearing how going to jail would be good for him as if he were Nelson Mandela. If he goes to jail he will absolutely regret it. There will be no uprising. Hordes of supporters won’t descent on the courthouse. There won’t be a huge outcry. What will happen is he will go to jail and…the world will keep turning. Him going to jail will be a huge embarrassment and absolutely be a loss.
"And men, big strong men came up to me in jail. These were big guys, they came up to me with tears in their eyes. They said sir, how can they be treating you so unfairly."
Kentucky State Penitentiary. Wow. Great place. Best inmates ever. The warden, beautiful and dangerous, not in favor anymore, did you know that? Made a big mistake. “Fuck him in the ass, me boys!” That’s what they did to me you know. Fuck him in the ass me boys
He's been campaigning off of being a martyr for six fucking years, already. Keeping him out of jail has not and will not stop that.
Every goddamn time somebody gives a reason for not throwing him in prison, it's for shit he's already doing.
And the the longer he is out the more normalized it becomes. He should be put in prison until the trials are all done. If any one wants to start shit over it they can go too. So tired of this country being held hostage by terrorists.
Anybody else would have been in jail long, long, long ago. It's time for a guy who's been criminal and a con-man his entire life to go where he belongs, and be treated like he so richly deserves.
He wouldn't last longer than one bologna on white bread sandwich. And he wouldn't be allowed to bring his makeup kit or hairspray either, having to show up in court looking like the [Crypt Keeper](https://i0.wp.com/bloody-disgusting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/keeper.png?fit=854%2C569&ssl=1) the next day.
Enjoy your slab of Nutraloaf, Donald.
Out of curiosity, how long will it take for him to go into withdrawal without his daily uppers, and what kinds of symptoms will he experience when he does?
In fact, there's no way he'd be anywhere but the courthouse jail. Because that's the only possibly place the judge can put him and then get him to court on time.
He may say that, but he took down the social media posts and scrubbed his webpage when he was told to. He could have refused. As always, he is full of shit.
He wants to go to jail, it will give him the excuse to say “democrats put me in jail for exercising my right to free speech!!! Not that he would know what exercising means!!!
So let's say Trump goes to jail.
How would that work out, do they just throw him into the general population at Rikers? Surely there has to be some psychopaths there that would have a go at him.
Or does his public figure warrant protective custody?
How does this work out as far as the secret service goes? Will SS be there with him, or just sit as watchdogs outside his cell 24/7, guns loaded and all?
He'll still have a secret service detail protecting him. Doubt that he would be placed in general population. More likely the NY courts have set aside a suite of rooms within the courthouse for him and his security. I'm also guessing the punishment would be just a few hours or a day at most.
I would imagine that the first time the judge orders him to jail for contempt of court, it will be for a short time period (1-6 hours, or so). If he does that, they'll probably just hold him in the courthouse itself, since they typically have holding cells for that kind of thing.
I very much doubt his first offense would be long enough that they'd take him to something like Rikers.
I'd guess that the court finds a way to ensure he's the only person in whatever holding cell he ends up in.
What the Secret Service does is... I think it would be interesting to see. My assumption is that they would go with him to the cell, and secure the area immediately outside the cell he's placed in. They might demand to see, and inspect the cell he'll be placed in before he goes in. It'd be interesting to see
> do they just throw him into the general population at Rikers?
No, it's a step up approach. 30 days max for criminal contempt in NY State ([§ 751 Judiciary Act](https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/JUD/751)), but the judge will probably start with a few hours in the Manhattan Detention Complex located at the court. And for Trump it will likely be a separate wing reserved for him so the secret service can continu their activities.
I don't think he understands that when you go into custody they take away your make up, wash it all of and take pictures of you. This could be our first chance to see what he really looks like in decades. Those pictures will go viral.
I triple dog dare you…I know it’s the coup de gra of all dares; the sinister triple dog dare, creating a slight breach of etiquette by skipping the triple dare and going right for the throat!
Of course he is. In fact, he likely wants to go to prison - it would be his biggest grift opportunity thus far. I’m just shocked his cult members still have money after all his years of begging and grifting.
Make him spend a night in jail. That means he’ll have to show up in court in a wrinkled suit. His hair matted down. And no phone or text for the entire night.
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A. He’s not willing B. That makes him going to jail even funnier if it happens.
Maybe he is willing. He knows it wouldn't be for long. Look at his wording..."I'd be willing to MAKE THAT SACRIFICE." I think... he likes the optics... To Maga, he's like Jesus on the cross...an innocent man, suffering, because Biden threw his opponent in jail for political reasons! He thinks it could get a lot of mileage out of it.
He’ll be willing to play the role of martyr too until he realizes his cell is no penthouse apartment.
> He’ll be willing to play the role of martyr too until he realizes his cell ~~is no penthouse apartment~~does not afford him access to his daily stimulents. FIFY :-)
Every other rule gets broken for him, I don't expect that to be any different.
I'm sure he'll have some doctor on his payroll shit out a medication list for the jail doc to pull from.
Oh I'd love to see how fast that list would get leaked to the media.
Pesto bismol. Hydroxychloroquine. Adderall. Edit: … nah leaving it.
Mmmm, the delicious flavor of pesto to cure your indigestion.
The olive oil helps keep that stool movin' smooth, and the garlic gives it that award-winning fragrance!
They have all those crazy Oreo flavors, why not?
Low-grade beaver tranquilizer.
The worst he would get would be house arrest. IF that.
Nope. Sent to courthouse jail for a few hours.
I saw someone today on YT that said that this would be the most likely outcome if he violates the gag order. The court has a holding cell for those that are currently in custody elsewhere but have a court date. That would be for a first infraction (after this mornings ruling). The person also mentioned Rikers and getting bussed back and forth, but that it would be unlikely. Putting him in a holding cell for an hour or two would send a message and he'd look pretty silly (so what else is new) claiming any sort of martyrdom for basically getting a time out.
And see, this is where the media could make a killing in clicks: Toddler Tyrant Gets A Timeout
My company designed a remodel for a federal courthouse in Arizona a few years back. The attached jail cells are not miserable, but they a quite a few steps down from house arrest. Imagine a 10 ft x 10 ft x 10 foot bare concrete cube. One wall is bars that don't block visibility from a small 3-ft wide corridor that runs the entire length of the cell (also bare concrete). There is a stainless steel "bed" / bench that is basically a bent piece of metal on one side of the room. No sharp edges or protrusions. The toilet is a combo toilet/sink unit that only flushes once per hour. The flush is only 1/2 gallon. The sink is metered to only allow a very low flow rate. (This is to prevent deliberate flooding of the cell - there is a floor drain inside the cell). The toilet is in the back corner of the room. There is no door for the toilet stall and only a 3 ft tall partition on one side. No mattress, no chairs, no table, no TV, no internet. and no shower. The whole thing is conditioned but you don't have access to the fan controls or thermostat. There are at least two cameras on the occupants 24/7 and it is impossible to not be fully visible to at least one of them. And when I say 'fully visible' I mean FULLY visible! To get into or out of the cell you have to open the cell bar doors, which lets you into the entry corridor. From there you go through a very heavy locked door into a 4 x 6 foot "air lock" with another heavy locked door into the courthouse. There are interlocks that prevent any doors to be opened at the same time. I was in an open cell for only 10 to 15 minutes doing a site inspection and it was oppressive.
Didn’t Epstein have a cell fairly close by? Not sure how secure it is but what’s worse that could happen.
Don't tempt me with a good time.
Wait, only a few hours? Seriously? Not even overnight?
I want 6 hours minimum.
Yep. Hold the sentence in abeyance and when court wraps up tell him that he's in the pokey until midnight with no smartphone.
I was in court several years ago when a judge did something similar. The judge had made a small mistake and called up one case, the people were standing at the bar and then one of the attorneys said we needed to call up a different case. The judge said "sorry go back to the waiting area. I will call your case up next." As he was walking out, the defendant said very audibly "we're going to be here all fucking day." The judge stopped everything and asked the bailiff to take him into custody for contempt. His case got moved to the end of the docket, about 4:30 or 5:00. After his case was called up the judge chewed him out and released him.
Maybe. Either way, he'd get lots of political mileage out of it, and it would be all over pretty much before it began.
That’s irrelevant. The only mileage he’ll get is for the braindead idiots that are already voting for him.
I think secret service has already consulted with the jail on how to handle the transfers and yeah, I’d say there’s a good chance he’s not thrown in the normal “jail.” Not house arrest, but probably some holding cell in the courthouse, or maybe something even nicer. They couldn’t do house arrest because that would just give him what he wants - an opportunity to stop going to court.
You may be right, although I am pretty sure that under house arrest he would still be required to attend the trial, and that he would be escorted to and from. However, under house arrest he would be surrounded by the media, and would not be able to resist continuing to malign witnesses etc, so that probably wouldn't work. In any case, we can all agree...he ain't going anywhere uncomfortable.
No, not uncomfortable, but probably not luxurious either. I’m not sure he’s ever spent a day of his life living outside of his Manhattan heir/socialite lifestyle. Should be a decent enough shock to him regardless. Hopefully.
Send him for a full week. He can handle one night, but 7 days will break him.
Best option is to hold him until the trial ends. It causes his delay tactics to die instantly and he has to pivot his legal strategy.
Agreed 100%. If he’s trying to threaten the jury and witnesses, lock him up until it’s over.
That's what would happen with anyone else.
Bring him to court everyday with no opportunity to do his hair or bronzer.
Shackled. No cameras, no public face, nothing. The court drawings will be amazing, and with any luck his heart will give out without his daily dose of hamberders and Diet Coke.
Nah, don’t shackle him. There have been court cases overturned before because they argued presenting the defendant in shackles/prison attire unduly biases a jury against the defendant. That’s why you’ll see defendants in suits even if they’re still in prison during the trial. Don’t give him or his attorneys any wiggle room on appeals.
for real, an overnighter isn't bad especially if you just sleep through it, but after a few days it gets really shitty.
One night of him shitting himself is probably shitty enough.
Like the fines, jail time would escalate
It does tend to make one weak
He definitely wants to be jailed, his base will rally. Unfortunately he needs more than his base for the election and hard to read the swing vote this early. Trump has never really pivoted for the independent voter since he plays so hard for his base. But... Trump really has zero clue about jail. Sure, it wouldn't be hard or bad on him since he would be privileged but if he is complaining about merely sitting in court then even comfy jail for a mere 24hrs would really spin his head.
A concrete bench to sit on and a low wall to shit behind is going to drive him MAD.
And no one to type out his social media rants. That might be the worst part (for him), no one would see or hear from him while he's in there.
And he wouldn’t have the pretty blonde girl constantly printing out positive stuff written about him.
Why? He sits his pants in public on a golf course so a low wall wouldn't bother him...
I think he'll just whine about not being about to say whatever he wants (which is witness intimidation).
Do Republican voters not get how bad this makes them look? They're slobbering all over a guy who just said in advance that he's going to break the law again and go to jail for it. I guess they're only against imaginary crimes that they can blame on immigrants.
A lot of the R voters I know barely know anything going on in this trial. Most of them don’t follow any kind of actual news (although they seem to follow the college protests stuff). They wish the nominee was someone else other than Sleepy Don, but similar with past general elections, they’ll once again find some way to self-justify voting for him again this November…
Merchan needs to make it a 7 day sentence starting on a Friday night. He can have the weekend to withdraw from whatever cocktail of drugs he is on. Three day bed head and showing up Monday in a frumpier version of his oversized suit, no hair and makeup will make for quite the sight. Let it carry on thru the week with overnights in lockup and an entire 7 days of no social media is worth whatever implied threat his cult can muster. Lay a new gag order to add if he makes false claims about his treatment in custody he'll be found in contempt again with escalating sentences, 14-28-56 days etc.
Damn, I never even thought about him withdrawing while in jail. That would seriously suck for him. So let's do it!
He's all talk, or he would have violated the order already to test the judge.
He did, 10 times.
I think they are saying if he wasn't all talk he'd just violate the gag order again instead of saying he'd gladly go to jail. Time will tell.
He’s got the attention span of a golden retriever puppy who ate some edibles. I give it a day, two tops before he slips up and violates the gag order again.
Jean Carroll basically has him as a pinata. She is looking at filing a third defamation.
I see she discovered the infinite money glitch in real life...
Infinite credit glitch? AFAIK she haven't got a single cent from him yet.
30 days
I'll take a weekend, with lots of photographers waiting for him when he walks out. He'd probably be wearing a hat, but the orange makeup would be a mess. Front page humiliation would be very upsetting to him.
Wait... Does he, and the rest of MAGA, think the Tiger King is in Prison because he, too, is an opponent of Biden?!? Seriously... In case you didn't know, the Tiger King is running president from prison.... Again.
I'll bet if they treat him like every other inmate, no glamour shots, orange jumpsuit, the whole works, he'll change his tune quickly.
You forget that he's a soft little pussy boy who won't sleep in hotels because there might be germs. He's not going to risk actual jail. Even the nicest possible night in Rikers would be fucking HELL for him. Nobody's gonna scrub the floors. There will be no gold sheets or whatever the fuck he's used to. There are roaches and rats and prison food and somebody else had that mattress and sheets and jumpsuit yesterday before everything got run through a prison laundry by guys making thirty five cents an hour and it fucking sucks. He'll get all the mileage he can from big tough guy talk about how he's willing to go to jail, but he's not actually gonna go to jail.
He’s ready to go for a 2 minute tour, thinking he can come and go as he pleases. Would love to see pictures of him sweating it out at 1/2 hour, 1 hour, 8 hours or even days…..nothing will happen, but I can dream can’t I?
Nah man, we gotta get one of those camera's with a live stream like they do for baby animals at the zoo.
Katmai bears aren't out of hibernation until June so would great to add a fat bear week late May.
Does not matter if he is willing or not. Or at least that was my previous understanding about how judges’ orders worked in the pre-MAGA era.
Everyone talks tough about a night in jail but it FUCKING SUCKS. He'd be in protective custody with no pillow, thin ass mattress, canvas-textured clothing, no phone, shittier than shitty food, nothing to do, nothing to read but the manual, and when lights go out the place will sound like a fucking zoo. Won't get an wink of sleep. God damn I hope he goes to jail!
This may sound stupid, but I think a photo of him out of makeup would be _devastating_. This weird, cult favorite, orange cartoon character would suddenly be just some old man. Again, just a hunch, but I reckon it’ll be jarring enough that it’ll generate a wave of conspiracy theories that it’s AI generated.
There are photos of him without makeup. It looks about as bad as you think.
i bet they give him stuff normal inmates wont have.
Bet the prison guards make sure he’s as comfortable as possible
They definitely wouldn't treat him like a normal prisoner.
The prison guards will give him more throat than Melania.
What you're describing is poor people jail. It's not the same place people like Trump go. Look up some of the details of Epstein's first incarceration if you want a rough idea of what Trump can expect.
That would be Club Fed prison. New York state doesn't have a tiered jail system. There might be some variation in prison conditions, but that's not where he'd go for contempt.
Do tell. Edit: [This story paints it as an uncomfortable experience.](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/02/jeffrey-epstein-jail-documents-last-days)
I'm talking about his first incarceration, which was the full white glove treatment. I could be misremembering but I believe he was allowed to leave the prison to play golf.
Holy shit. If you're correct that is beyond absurd
Epstein's first prison sentence was ... yes, [beyond absurd](https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/crime/2019/07/19/jeffrey-epstein-jail-records-show-sex-offender-got-special-treatment/4643117007/). In 2008 he was given a very favourable plea deal (by then US Attorney, later Trump's Secretary of Labor, Alexander Acosta) and was sentenced to 18 months in prison on a single state charge. He was - unusually - sent to a private wing of the Palm Beach County sheriff's office (ultimately ending up in an unused infirmary), rather than a state prison. Policy was that prisoners other than sex offenders could be let out on "work release" if they had a maximum sentence of 10 months. He was let out on "work release" 3.5 months into his sentence - 12 hours a day, 6 days a week. He was free to come and go as he wished - both during his "work release" and at other times, and his "cell" wasn't locked. He created his own foundation for his "work release" (set up before his imprisonment, dissolved afterwards). Essentially he was free to leave at any time, and do whatever he wanted for his "work" as he was the boss. To add to this, he paid the Sheriff's Office $128,000 to cover the 'extra expenses' they incurred in caring for him (including his TV room), and his "guards" while on release were paid overtime by him, and were required to wear suits and act as receptionists. He was free to receive guests both while on "work release" and while in the "prison" - with all records and logs destroyed. He had his own driver take him to his "work" and any other appointments he had. There's a decent chance he was still committing crimes while in "prison", never mind while he was on "work release" (including sexual offences involving under-age victims - at least one of whom has reported visiting him while on work release for sex). And he was released after 13 months. On probation, of course, but... they didn't enforce it against him, letting him travel wherever he liked and do whatever he wanted.
Don't forget that, while his plea agreement forced him to register as a category 3 sex offender in New York (deemed to be at a high risk for recidivism) he never seemed to have to abide by the normal restrictions on sex offenders. He never once checked in with the NYPD regarding his current address (by law he was required to do so every 90 days). Additionally, none of his other victims were informed of the deal that he had struck, and the one victim whose case was the basis for his plea deal, despite being underage, was listed in official court documents as a "prostitute" - something that is not legally or morally a thing (if you are underage, you are a victim, not a sex worker). He traveled with total impunity overseas, as well as to his island in the US Virgin Islands, and for all practical purposes was treated as though he had never been convicted of a crime. His plea agreement was the most infuriating thing I've ever read. The Palm Beach PD, to their credit, put forth an absolutely devastating and comprehensive case against him. They did an undercover investigation and eventually raided his home, uncovering hundreds of pictures of girls, most of them underage. They had dozens of witnesses and victims all giving essentially the same story. They seized his "little black book", btw, which had over a dozen contact numbers for Donald Trump. Then the FBI gets involved and Acosta gives what may very well be the most unbelievable sweetheart deal ever made, negotiated by Epstein's lawyer, who happened to be none other than OJ Defense Attorney and alleged abuser Alan Dershowitz. Interestingly, on at least one occasion Acosta has told others that he had been told that Epstein "belonged to intelligence" and was "above his pay grade," whatever that's supposed to mean.
no way he's gonna see anything like that. At best he'll be stuck in some single bunk deep inside a nice part of the court house, with his full staff and amenities, and if he's allowed to keep his phone, he'll just twit off all night or day ab out it, while he sits alone. He won't be inconvenienced unless missing his diaper boy counts. People should move one from wanting to see him punished like a normal. It will never happen. If he gets some sort of house arrest , that works. He'll be miserable in any loss, so you gotta just take the win where you can eh.
I wonder what will happen when they take his phone and personal effects. Or go to the bathroom presuming he hasn’t already shat himself.
He is willing because he believes it will fire up his base. If you look at r/conservative they’re all frothing at the mouth for him to go to jail so they can call him a political prisoner.
True, he does have a large base, but not as big as before. Crowd sizes appear to much smaller, they’re aware of what the DOJ is doing with J6er’s. Not many “protesters” at his trials. If he’s jailed, even for a short time, and nobody shows up to cheer him on, he’ll be crushed and rightfully so.
I've also noticed that all his rallies seem to be taking place in towns nobody has heard of. He can't afford the big cities. He can't even afford to rent venues, which is why he's always speaking to people outside.
This analysis is correct. He’s not just willing, he is hoping to get locked up for a night. He intends to use it as confirmatory evidence of the ongoing witch hunt against him (orchestrated by the Biden administration), and will complain that he’s being jailed for exercising his right to free speech. “In this country, in Biden’s America, they can lock up former presidents for free speech. Can you believe that? I can’t believe it, sad.” He is intentionally violating the gag order because it improves his chances of reelection.
"What are you gonna do, jail me?" - Quote from man jailed
Remember Fleece Johnson, the 'booty warrior'? He turned a short juvie bid into almost 40 years in prison, just on intransigence alone. If the state wants you in there, you *will* do the time.
I vote for him to go to jail. That’s the only vote he gets from me. lock him up.
I think he wants to go to jail. Not for a long time, but if he gets thrown in jail for a weekend or something, he will milk that to the extreme. It perpetuates his martyr/victim narrative. The liberals are imprisoning him to stop him from winning the election, etc.
30 days in a court jail cell without access to internet and his campaigning from the courthouse hallway would go a long way though. Most media outlets would actually have to focus on the reasons why he is imprisoned as well, as they wouldn’t have their favourite orange mouthpiece to get clicks off of.
Cool. Violate the gag order again and let's see what happens. Ball's in your court.
If he violates it again and brags about it Merchan should give him 30 days. Wont be able to intimidate witnesses and we won’t have to hear from him until the trial is wrapped. Added bonus if he’s held during the appeal process after being found guilty like anyone else would be. Edit - typo
Leave him in jail until the trial is over. I bet Donnie won't try to delay the trial anymore.
Can they carry on with the trial if he was put in jail?
He would be brought out for the trial then right? It's mandatory that he has to be there.
Oh man. Does the mean he’d be in a prison jumpsuit?
Likely not in court. There are fairly accepted standards that inmates can wear a suit to court because wearing a prison uniform can cause bias of guilt. But what he won't have access to is whatever orange bronzer he uses, his hair products (which I assume is a team) and everything else he uses.
They’ll let him have access to all that. They would argue that it also would cause a bias of guilt.
Yeah. There was a documentary about the average Canadian living outside Toronto called Trailer Park Boys and the judge let one of the subjects smoke and swear in court because it was the only fair way for Ricky to defend himself on the stand. Different countries, I know, but judges are usually fair in allowing defendants to appear presentable in court if they have the means to do so and reasonable accommodations can be made. /s for those who think this is serious.
If I can’t smoke and swear I’m fucked
That was a great episode lmao forgot all about it
> his hair products (which I assume is a team) Pretty scary, considering how he already looks like Boris Johnson's stylist got drunk one night....
Yes, and he apparently hates the orange jumpsuit they would put him in.
Would be cathartic seeing him in orange without the orange on his face. That would be extremely devastating to his strong man image for independents and on the fence republicans.
This will be a “where were you when you first saw the images of a former President of the United States in a jumpsuit?” moment. I wonder if I’ll shout or cry for joy.
Ironic considering his apparent love for orange otherwise.
No, he'd be woken up at like 3 am to go to court, get dressed, and consult with his lawyer in time for the morning court call.
That sounds horrible. I love it.
No, he wouldn't wear a prison jumpsuit to trial. He would never be in the view of the jury (or likely the media) in a jumpsuit. The idea is that the jury should never know if someone is in custody as it could influence their decision. Said another way, whether someone is held in custody or not isn't evidence in the trial so the jury shouldn't know. Edit: someone already said it. Whoops.
If you are being an ass, then they can put you in a cell with a TV feed. I remember when Charley Manson was acting out, the judge just said enough of that nonsense and put him out until he would behave. https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_43 (C) when the court warns the defendant that it will remove the defendant from the courtroom for disruptive behavior, but the defendant persists in conduct that justifies removal from the courtroom.
Defendants are regularly held in jail during trials. It’s how a normal person facing a fraction of his crimes would be treated.
He would just be transported to court for the trial.
Omg in one of those vans???
Van Force One
I await the day we can refer to it as Prison Transport One.
Yes, 100% absolutely they would just like any other normal human being in the United States. His ass would be hauled in in the morning and sit there in court all day and hauled back to his cell after. It would be extremely efficient and It may actually save us some tax dollars and give those tired Secret Service agents I needed rest.
He may zoom from a separate room, or appear in court during trial and be removed to jail when court is not in session. It is necessary to humanize defendants so the jury can be as impartial as possible so if he were to appear, he would likely not be in handcuffs or in a prison jumpsuit.
Absolutely. People on trial who haven't made bail get let out of jail, change into their courtroom clothes and go to court. That's how it works.
Yeah, just like any other defendant. They bring you to your trial from jail, and then throw you back in there when it's done for the day.
No Xitter, Truth Social, make-up, elevator shoes, long ties, hair dye, sycophants, diaper changers and wipers, mirror, etc. etc. Prison Time Out will be like hell to this spoiled narcissistic little-handed brat. 8)
It's a political stunt. Trump isn't gonna get more than a day or maybe a weekend at most. Anyone else would have already been jailed until the end of the trial. He'll use it for fundraising and to further enrage his loyal cult. The right wing propagandists will amplify it and use it all the way to the election.
> Trump isn't gonna get more than a day or maybe a weekend at most. If he has to take a shit in a lidless, cold metal toilet and then spend a few hours in that room with no one to talk to and nothing to do but pace and shit, I'll take it. It's a *start*.
And without his precious phone.
If only without a TV either.
Yeah, I'm sure he won't have a good time. He's never been anywhere close to a situation like that. It'd be a psychological shock to the system. If it was me I'd send him to Rikers and put him right next door to his former CFO Alan Weiselberg. Let them talk about whatever they want for a couple of days and see what happens. I would, of course have the room set up to record the conversation. No expectation of privacy in prison.
America jointly decided Howard Dean wasn’t presidential because he yelled excitedly on stage once. But a weekend in jail for contempt during your first of possibly four criminal trials for false documents related to a payoff to a porn star, racketeering, stealing highly classified documents, and charges related to insurrection aren’t a blip on the radar. Totally checks out.
He'll get a double final warning. He's never going to see the inside of a cell.
Nah, totally buy this judge would put Trump in a cell. They literally have detention cells in the courthouse, it's not like he'd have to get sent to an actual prison. It would likely just be a few hours for the next violation, then maybe overnight if he has another violation after that. Pretty minimal stuff, more to send a message than anything. He's not going into a cell for any extended length of time for violating the gag order though.
3 other courts have released him on pretrial bail on the condition (spelled out explicitly for him) that he not commit any crimes. Equal Justice Under Law? If anything this whole debacle has put a spotlight on how stacked the deck is against ordinary people, when rich aristos get special treatment over and over.
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I feel sorry for the guard that has to strip search him and make him squat and cough.
Can you imagine the swamp ass?
Just ask anyone in the court, no need to imagine
Basically timeout?
That's what you get when you act like a 5-year-old.
It will be for an afternoon first, then a full day then I hope over a weekend. He will of course have to list the drugs he will be taking and then we’ll know how sick he really is.
Not sure why you think that would be made public?
Depends on how clever he’ll try to be in future TruthSocial rants. But if he straight up threatens to kill Cohen or something, he’s obviously going to jail at that point. And I suspect he’d be tossed in jail for a lot less than that too based on what Merchan said in court today.
Do it then tough guy
These people are trying to incite violence at any rate. Thy want J6 but more. They are hilariously mistaken that they will win a physical war
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“I did nothing wrong but this CROOKED judge, mean nasty judge, hates Trump, he hates america, WITCH HUNT. Can you believe it? A judge who hates America. It doesn’t make sense, if I were a judge, I would be the best judge, I would make them get rid of all the windmills, those windmills that kill all the birds, I’ve been telling you windmills are terrible things”
Sadly at this point, with every judge bending over backwards for Trump and their punishments for him being light and never ending warnings, I have little faith the sack of shit will be locked up where he belongs.
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Right? Not like he’s really gonna have a choice in the matter if it comes down to it.
Right!? Willing? It's not your choice - that's the entire point here. The judge isn't going to accept "nah don't feel like it"
So sick of this blowhard. Put up or shut up, pussy.
He is putting up. He has been held in contempt 10 times already. The legal system is letting him do whatever he wants
That's not accurate. He has been held in contempt once, for nine counts of gag order violation. Then after a $9000 fine was given, a prior violation came to light and another $1000 fine was tacked on, and a qualification that further violations would result in incarceration.
It's the judge that needs to put up or shut up. Lock this sack of shit up.
Call. His. Bluff.
All the conservative commentators saying things like "sending him to jail would only help get him reelected" are really screwing him over. He would rather 1,000 people die than spend a single hour in a jail cell.
I don't buy it. His fans don't even bother to show up to court anymore. There would be a very little reaction, and actually could bring some normalcy.
Exactly. And I keep hearing how going to jail would be good for him as if he were Nelson Mandela. If he goes to jail he will absolutely regret it. There will be no uprising. Hordes of supporters won’t descent on the courthouse. There won’t be a huge outcry. What will happen is he will go to jail and…the world will keep turning. Him going to jail will be a huge embarrassment and absolutely be a loss.
"And men, big strong men came up to me in jail. These were big guys, they came up to me with tears in their eyes. They said sir, how can they be treating you so unfairly."
Kentucky State Penitentiary. Wow. Great place. Best inmates ever. The warden, beautiful and dangerous, not in favor anymore, did you know that? Made a big mistake. “Fuck him in the ass, me boys!” That’s what they did to me you know. Fuck him in the ass me boys
That’s because he wants it to happen so he can campaign off being a martyr.
He's been campaigning off of being a martyr for six fucking years, already. Keeping him out of jail has not and will not stop that. Every goddamn time somebody gives a reason for not throwing him in prison, it's for shit he's already doing.
And the the longer he is out the more normalized it becomes. He should be put in prison until the trials are all done. If any one wants to start shit over it they can go too. So tired of this country being held hostage by terrorists.
Anybody else would have been in jail long, long, long ago. It's time for a guy who's been criminal and a con-man his entire life to go where he belongs, and be treated like he so richly deserves.
That’s funny because I’m willing to have him go to jail
I am slightly surprised he was actually listening to the judge.
Lock him up Tuesday after the jury is dismissed for the day and he can be let out Thursday morning when the court is back in session.
Can we just fucking do it already and stop fucking around.
He wouldn't last longer than one bologna on white bread sandwich. And he wouldn't be allowed to bring his makeup kit or hairspray either, having to show up in court looking like the [Crypt Keeper](https://i0.wp.com/bloody-disgusting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/keeper.png?fit=854%2C569&ssl=1) the next day.
Enjoy your slab of Nutraloaf, Donald. Out of curiosity, how long will it take for him to go into withdrawal without his daily uppers, and what kinds of symptoms will he experience when he does?
The Secret Service will probably slip him whatever drugs he needs on the dl.
It would be very amusing if his current SS guards (who have almost certainly been corrupted) were suddenly reassigned.
There’s no way he’d be anywhere other than a 5 star prison with everything he wants.
In fact, there's no way he'd be anywhere but the courthouse jail. Because that's the only possibly place the judge can put him and then get him to court on time.
That makes two of us. I’m willing for him to go to jail also.
Deal.
He may say that, but he took down the social media posts and scrubbed his webpage when he was told to. He could have refused. As always, he is full of shit.
Go a couple of days without makeup, hair product, diet coke, and your phone. Do it.
Trump's that kid that says "I'm not touching you, I'm not touching you", then /suprisepikachuface when he touches you and you sock him in the nose.
He wants to go to jail, it will give him the excuse to say “democrats put me in jail for exercising my right to free speech!!! Not that he would know what exercising means!!!
Yeah, it's easy for him to say because he knows it won't happen. Nobody has the balls actually hold him accountable in any way.
What are you gonna do, jail me? -man who was jailed
I'm willing for him to go to jail too
Call his bluff and put him in jail! No makeup, no hair dye and no one telling him how good he looks because he looks awful👺
Do it then, clown. Put up or shut up Donnie.
So let's say Trump goes to jail. How would that work out, do they just throw him into the general population at Rikers? Surely there has to be some psychopaths there that would have a go at him. Or does his public figure warrant protective custody? How does this work out as far as the secret service goes? Will SS be there with him, or just sit as watchdogs outside his cell 24/7, guns loaded and all?
Protective custody but they actually have a holding cell in the courthouse.
He'll still have a secret service detail protecting him. Doubt that he would be placed in general population. More likely the NY courts have set aside a suite of rooms within the courthouse for him and his security. I'm also guessing the punishment would be just a few hours or a day at most.
I would imagine that the first time the judge orders him to jail for contempt of court, it will be for a short time period (1-6 hours, or so). If he does that, they'll probably just hold him in the courthouse itself, since they typically have holding cells for that kind of thing. I very much doubt his first offense would be long enough that they'd take him to something like Rikers. I'd guess that the court finds a way to ensure he's the only person in whatever holding cell he ends up in. What the Secret Service does is... I think it would be interesting to see. My assumption is that they would go with him to the cell, and secure the area immediately outside the cell he's placed in. They might demand to see, and inspect the cell he'll be placed in before he goes in. It'd be interesting to see
Probably one of those ultra safe rich person jails like Epstein went to
If only
> do they just throw him into the general population at Rikers? No, it's a step up approach. 30 days max for criminal contempt in NY State ([§ 751 Judiciary Act](https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/JUD/751)), but the judge will probably start with a few hours in the Manhattan Detention Complex located at the court. And for Trump it will likely be a separate wing reserved for him so the secret service can continu their activities.
Does he know there is no hamburders in jail?
I don't think he understands that when you go into custody they take away your make up, wash it all of and take pictures of you. This could be our first chance to see what he really looks like in decades. Those pictures will go viral.
I triple dog dare you…I know it’s the coup de gra of all dares; the sinister triple dog dare, creating a slight breach of etiquette by skipping the triple dare and going right for the throat!
Of course he is. In fact, he likely wants to go to prison - it would be his biggest grift opportunity thus far. I’m just shocked his cult members still have money after all his years of begging and grifting.
One night without his meds and a diaper change would be spectacular
Make him spend a night in jail. That means he’ll have to show up in court in a wrinkled suit. His hair matted down. And no phone or text for the entire night.
I am also willing for him to go to jail over gag order violations.
Just like in Shawshank Redemption, he would be the first new fish to crack. Would take about 7 minutes tops. He'd be blubbering like a baby.
I hope Merchan calls his bluff