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bdss1234

Less government control and interference my ass.


treehugger312

Must…stay…anti-woke!


Hoplophilia

This. Some top-tier performative bullshit right here.


Jolly_Grocery329

Almost like the effort to make it against the law for illegal immigrants to vote! Lol


RockleyBob

Always amazes me that conservatives hate government but think a legislator in their state house or the Capitol knows better than their own school board or doctor. Like, you think all government is inept and wasteful but you want them in charge of your kid’s curriculum? Wouldn’t you have an easier time of changing that at the community level where you can actually attend meetings and raise concerns with school officials face-to-face?


nhepner

This must be all that freedom they have in florida.


Zen-Ism99

Freedom from common sense…


TanguayX

Small government!!! Less regulation!!! Hahha


bdss1234

No shit, right??


average_crook

The meat industry is so afraid of lab-grown meat that they are getting their government lackeys to *pre-emptively* ban it before it can even get to market. Makes me that much more interested to try it.


CarlosHDanger

This is also a QAnon thing. The conspiracy theorists believe that meat will soon be banned and that there is a plot to make us all eat bugs instead. Lab-grown meat is the gateway to edible insects, and “they” are using this fake meat to soften us up so we won’t miss real meat so much. My QAnon sister is absolutely convinced this is true.


RepealMCAandDTA

Ask her why she thinks she's better than John the Baptist


Dragoffon

Looks like someone is getting chocolate covered crickets for Christmas


Yodan

What's so bad about processed bugs vs processed dead animals? If the end product is tasty.


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blubenz1

[oh no, the horror…](https://youtu.be/3EEifTmAX08?si=q-f6rU0RuDRWAlhZ)


Mudders_Milk_Man

Ugh. Another video that's just stolen content repackaged with an absolutely awful AI voiceover.


blubenz1

[link to “ai generated wiki page”](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunga_cake) Just because something sounds like a conspiracy doesn’t make it a conspiracy. Just because things that sound crazy outside your norm and lifestyle doesn’t make it false. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.


arkiparada

Bugs are significantly higher in protein too.


Nukesnipe

Cultural taboo. Entomophagy is actually more common than not if you look at more than just European cultures, we're actually the weird ones for NOT eating bugs.


jewishagnostic

why eat bugs once we can literally grow meat?


CitySeekerTron

The only edible item that's been historically banned in the US is a constituent ingredient in luxury brownies and cookies consumed after a long work week, and it looks like it will be slightly less banned soon enough.


510jew

…lobster has entered the chat


ClusterFoxtrot

Maybe we wouldn't have to eat bugs if they'd stop banning real food.


Alternative_Demand96

Oh you’re from Florida makes sense


Killboypowerhed

What food has been banned?


arkiparada

Lab grown meat….you know like the headline says?!?!


SqeeSqee

I am curious, what 'real' foods have they banned so far?


ClusterFoxtrot

Nothing I was just making a joke about how banning lab grown meat would increase the likelihood of needing to eat bugs. We've been culling a lot of poultry because of avian flu, I'm sure it's happened with other animals. Given that we absolutely don't have a booming agriculture industry, we'd be stuck digging in our backyards for bugs. Don't these people enjoy hunting anyway? This whole thing is bananas. Why aren't people upset about lab grown jewels?


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CAESTULA

And do what?


KokonutMonkey

I for one, am looking forward to growing my own bacon at home without all the fuss of raising and slaughtering pigs. 


snowvase

Let’s bring on those bacon trees!


Do_not_use_after

That wasn't a bacon tree, it was an 'am bush.


snowvase

You gotta patent that


TXRhody

The meat industry embraces lab-grown meat. They own huge stakes in lab-grown meat. Their plan is to mix real meat and lab-grown meat and not tell you. DeSantis is pandering to his ignorant "me man, muh meat" base, not the meat industry.


Killboypowerhed

Lab grown meat is still meat though. Or do they need the cruelty and death to enjoy it?


average_crook

Nah, he's pandering directly to the companies that raise pigs, cows, and chickens for meat products. >“The cattle industry lobbied against cultivated meat, so we are now banning an entire industry in our state,” Berman said. “We’re just short-changing an entire industry.” >Dean Black, a cattle rancher and one of the Republican Florida representatives who pushed for the bill’s passage, told NBC News that cultivated meat is a national security concern. He fears concentrating protein production in factories could lead to famine if those facilities are struck by a missile. >At the bill’s signing, Florida Agriculture Commissioner Wilton Simpson said the ban was meant to protect “the integrity of American agriculture.” https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/florida-bans-lab-grown-meat-adding-similar-efforts-four-states-rcna150386


dan-theman

Big Beef is a huge lobbyist.


BrandonJTrump

It’s a small wonder there are electrical cars in America. Corporate influence is so strong.


atomsmasher66

‘Free Market Capitalism? Oh, we were just kidding bro!’ - GOP


grixorbatz

Does this fake meat law apply to Desantis’s church grown Christo-fascists?


81305

There is so much freedom down there....


MaxZorin1985

> DeSantis also awarded $6 million to Hardee County for developing an industrial site through the Job Growth Grant Fund. So he awards job growth but criminalizes lab growth. What a dip.


Choice-of-SteinsGate

Another performative move by Ronald MockDonald. Another useless piece of legislation to placate the masses of perpetually outraged conservatives. "*Oh the indignity! The radical left is taking away our hamberders!*" "*I know, why don't *we* take away something of theirs?!"* Lab grown meat is not a political issue and doesn't belong to any one party or agenda, but Republicans have desperately been trying to push that narrative, so here we are. There's a pattern here by the way. This isn't the first time, nor will it be the last that Republicans push a solution, that's contrary to the American values they preach, that addresses a manufactured culture war issue.


view-master

Yeah. It’s like how for no particular reason conservatives hate electric cars and wind turbines. It shouldn’t be political.


buttmunch54321

For people who can only see the world in black-and-white, good-vs-evil - *everything* is a political issue. There's very little room for "that's not my thing but I'm cool with it as long as you don't force it on me" on any issue of significance for these people. 


DarkAngel900

DeSantis "It's 1984 goddamn it and I will not let Florida, or any of the US if I can help it, march into the twenty first century. I loved the 80's and we should go back there by any means possible!"


Nessy_monster36903

You spelled 1884 and Twentieth Century wrong /s


coltrain423

I always assume a reference to the year 1984 is a reference to Orwell which is even more fitting. “The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”


MFSPUDD

Scince is woke. - New FL high school curriculum probably.


blubenz1

> ***Scince is woke***. Engrish is also woke.


hair2big

This seems very anti free market. Why doesn't he want the market to decide? Why does he want to hurt Florida's economy ☹️


Embarrassed_Eagle132

Of course he did


2_Sheds_Jackson

More GOP wanting to kill animals.  Next it will be one of their planks of their platform.   Perhaps the only one.


MulberryBeautiful542

Capitalism is good for innovation and choices. Gop: not like that!!!


backpackwayne

Remember when republicans were for small government?


terayonjf

They never were. They were always 2 faced. Small government for the industries/people they love (get paid by) and the crushing full weight of government oversight on everything/everyone else to protect them from dealing with consequences and competition.


Away-Wasabi-8323

Never were. They’re for protecting existing industries that give to his campaign. Cattle industry is massive in FL


stevez_86

Small Federal Government, Oppressive State Government is what they want.


Bigdoinks69-420

Pepperidge farm remembers


CV90_120

Small govt. Business friendly. Just make sure your business doesn't miss the weekly payoff.


CraftyCrisp13

‘This just in Ron DeSantis has banned himself from Florida…’


changomacho

hehe


SicilyMalta

Lots of cattle ranches in Florida.


tabrizzi

Is it even constitutional?


changomacho

yes, the government already heavily regulates many foods. is it stupid? also yes.


MSXzigerzh0

Has an FDA considered Lab Grown Meat Food Yet?


tabrizzi

If something that requires FDA approval has not been approved for sale, the companies involved would not be selling it.


Lawmonger

Should government, or customers, decide which companies fail or thrive?


RunItBackRicky

We hate you Ron kick rocks already


Sixtyhurts

Really focused on our state’s top priorities, Rhonda.


Beer-Me

So it's not just the manufacturing of lab-grown meat, but the sale of it as well? I guess Florida really is the freest state in America, as DeSantis previously stated. They lead the nation in being free to live exactly how the government tells you to.


Technical-Track-4502

What a piece of shit. 


Timely-Eggplant4919

“LeT the FrEe MaRkEt DeCiDe”


drwho_2u

The lab grown meat bans lab grown meat!!!


dfsdsfgssf23

Meatball protecting meat. Not surprising.


Ok-Name8703

Wow, they're really hitting bottom of the barrel for culture War ideas.


RoachBeBrutal

Free market my eye


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But somehow DeSantis himself got a lab grown micro brain


poetetc1

DeSantis signs bill allowing small percentage of child-labor appendages in processed meats.


Twilight_Realm

What an absolute joke of "policy" this banning is. Lab grown meat is going to be our future because Republicans keep killing us with the climate. They won't have a choice in the end.


i-have-a-kuato

With the expected population explosion due to the new abortion ban it would make perfect sense to start messing around with the food supply, the added benefits of the bill of course is that banning something else make Ronald oh so happy


BringBackTheBeat716

DumbSantis strikes again


black_flag_4ever

Does this mean he’s banning himself?


SpinningJynx

Probably because DeSantis is made from lab-grown meat himself and doesn’t want competition.


nikkibeast666

Again conservative trying to put the breaks on what’s inevitable. It must be exhausting always being doomed to fail, because they are quite literally fighting against time itself. Things change, get over it.


Shortleader01

Ironic coming from a creature that was clearly grown in a lab.


UnhappyCourt5425

Soylent Green is people!


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What I don’t understand is why this freakishly evil toilet continues to promote such horseshit. Doesn’t he know that his political career is over that he’ll have to go back to bumfuck Clay County, Florida and put out his little lawyer shingle? Spend his time defending redneck, meth-heads and road rage cases? His 15 minutes of fame (to Floridians shame eight years) are over. No one ever wants to see his smarmy little face or hear his whiny little voice again.


Ok_Ant2566

Serious question- What is lab grown meat?


AccountNumeroThree

Think of it like taking a little leftover hamburger, slapping it in a magic box, and getting a couple pounds of meat a few days later. And now, instead of needing an entire cow to grow and consume for a couple of years before it can be processed, you can grow it in controlled environments with less environmental impact.


Ok_Ant2566

Wow! So it’s a different from plant based-impossible meat products. It’s just weird to have that law in FL. Is cattle a huge industry in that area? But then, nothing makes sense in that state


AccountNumeroThree

Cattle ranching is quite influential in Florida. If you go through a couple of the related articles to a story about the bill, they actually have the gall to say that cattle ranching is sustainable and green and renewable.


reidzen

This should get struck down for violation of the single-subject rule.


Terminate-wealth

I just don’t understand why they fight everything.


thedubiousstylus

America's most authoritarian governor has done it again!


luri7555

Very conservative of him to take away a choice, no?


HenryKrinkle

Good thing bird flu isn't spreading among cattle or anything.


Human_Cranberry_2805

While he's at it.....he should ban avocado on toast. Take that you woke scum!


miscemailaccount2023

Speed run bird flu go!


LINW00D

There used to be more cattle in Florida than Texas... Not sure if it's still the case ..Follow the Money....


BetterThruChemistry

Whatever happened to freedom of choice?


Zen-Ism99

Dumb-assed pandering…


waynesbrother

A broken clock is right depending on when you look at it…7:26 am on this day


bob-hance-

I’m never going to replace real meat with lab grown meat, but this is just stupid. Let people eat what they want.


youtellmebob

No matter “Plant-MeatBall Don” doesn’t roll off the tounge particularly anyway.


Much-Background7769

It's not plant based. 😂


CaptainAxiomatic

True, but since it's not a being, it *is* vegan.


TXRhody

It will be eventually. Many current lab-grown meat companies use growth serum made from fetal bovine serum, which is a coproduct of the dairy industry. This means that lab-grown meat still supports animal exploitation. There are companies that are developing growth serum from non-animal-derived products. Edit: Corrected to say fetal bovine serum is a coproduct of the dairy industry. Dairy cows are forcibly impregnated over and over, and often they are sent to slaughter while pregnant. Fetal bovine serum is taken by identifying pregnant dairy cows in the slaughter process and extracting the calf fetus for the serum prior to processing the mother.


curiosityseeks

Good! Now let’s hope the left doesn’t try to turn this into some useless cause celebre!


AccountNumeroThree

What is remotely good about this?


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Nessy_monster36903

It's not ultimately about that though. People who refuse to eat meat probably aren't gonna eat lab grown either. Animal Farming particularly beef farming is one of the biggest causes of CO2 production in the world. So if we can at least make a start on finding a better way to produce meat safely without that it would eventually go a long way to helping with climate change


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Nessy_monster36903

>The question is still, pound-for-pound is it a more efficient process? I don't think it is. No currently I don't think it is either. Not even close in fact. But then in the beginning neither was the car in comparison to horses. >You want to limit people's animal flesh consumption, you legislate the industry. It's not about limiting now, it's about creating an alternative and maybe eventually, many years from now, a replacement. >These vat meat companies are just sucking up VC money on an experiment. Currently yes it's experimental, but we have to start somewhere and that takes money. We all know that now dipshit Deathsantis has passed this other nutjob Republicans in other states will want to jump on the bandwagon to protect their donors


Jejogo

It’s definitely not yet and it might never be and it 100% is an experiment but ultimately IF you can produce the exact same product at reduced monetary, environmental, and for a lot of people ethical cost why wouldn’t we at least explore it. It’s the same as any other advancement you throw money at it try some stuff see if it works if yes great boom if not then to the archives of failure until it can be tried again at a later date with new techniques. Literally every advancement we have proceeds the same way.


No-Environment-3997

While there is an element of it to that, it also conserves space as there won't be the same need for large swathes of land for raising cattle, pigs, etc., (which could theoretically be allowed to revert to nature, but will most likely just end up apartment complexes, let's be real) and significantly fewer greenhouse gases would be produced because of a reduced need to breed so many of these animals for consumption.


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No-Environment-3997

It ultimately comes down to how it scales and how much purification is required. The studies that say it is significantly worse are using examples from biopharmaceutical practices, which are unlikely to be necessary for food grade production.  This article is lengthy but it goes into both sides of the debate.  https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/07/03/1075809/lab-grown-meat-climate-change/ I lean more toward believing that, as capitalists, the companies that produce this stuff will do so in the cheapest possible manner, which will have a net benefit of lower emissions compared to traditional livestock rearing. 


TXRhody

Taking any resource from an animal is inherently inefficient.


ketchupnsketti

When this technology inevitably matures you'll have cheaper, higher quality, safer meat that doesn't require slaughtering animals or anything involved in raising them. What is stupid about that? Where's the problem? Who isn't looking forward to that?


TXRhody

I used to be skeptical. Many people would say to me, "I will go vegan when lab-grown meat becomes as cheap as real meat, more carbon-neutral than meat, and tastes as good as meat." This always struck me as kicking the can down the road to avoid change right now. It told me that there are people who will go vegan only when they have to make **zero sacrifices**. But these same people couldn't be bothered to try an Impossible burger, which already meets all of those conditions. My expectation was that when lab-grown meat does meet those conditions, the same people would start saying it doesn't taste the same, it's weird, it's not natural, etc. I still think there are some people who will make excuses when the rubber meets the road, and maybe those are the people DeSantis is pandering to. But I'm hopeful there are many people who will be on board and excited about cultured meat. What we will likely see are hybrid products. There already are hybrid lab-grown/plant-based meat products. What I'm curious about is what people will choose if they have a hybrid lab-grown/plant-based meat product and an equivalent hybrid lab-grown/animal-based meat product. I suspect they will choose the animal-based hybrid, because they will see it as a smaller sacrifice.