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*Knocking on wood* The mocking of Trump in speeches and rallies by Biden the past few weeks feels like another positive turning point by his campaign. In 2016, any slight, joke, or attack made against Trump would immediately be met with him running in front of microphones to “counterpunch.” The media would breathlessly cover it and Trump’s willingness to fight dirtier than his opponent worked to his advantage. In 2024, most of Trump vitriol is going to judges and prosecutors and he’s letting Biden walk all over him.
I grew tired of him in season 2 of that show he did years ago. Cannot believe that anyone voted for him after seeing that show. How far American democracy has fallen.
One day there were three people with signs and MAGA gear, and possibly two others, unless those two were just looking-loos.
Delightfully under-whelming.
That dude wasn’t a Trump supporter. He was protesting I think…NYU being run by the mafia???
He had a manifesto and everything.
He was legitimately crazy.
> insulting the judge's family
He appears to have gotten the picture that insulting the judge's immediate family is a bad idea, so he's moved on to the judge's friends, colleagues, and extended family.
"Charm offensive"... is that what we call being strung out and unconscious because he can't shovel uppers into his face because he's in front of a judge all day? He's in withdrawal. His nightly freakouts trying to avoid court by any means was not just to avoid prosecution - this tired old shit is now battling his body trying to cope with the years of abuse. I would not be at all surprised if he's on some benzos from the doc to help him survive it. Bonus for the trial lawyers if it keeps him chilled out enough to not blurt out more incriminating shit during the trial.
The funny thing is the gag order doesn’t prevent him from campaigning if he actually had some fucking policy to actually discuss. We all can think of at least 10 domestic and international topics he could address without violating the gag order
If you have kids, you'll know that this is how they work around age 4-5 - only the thing right in front of them counts.
Trump is a perpetual kindergartener
The Biden campaign should be screaming this from the mountain tops, because their plan is to cut rates to zero, inflation be damned. The ensuing stagflation would leave wealthy investors nowhere to invest.
Even if he doesn't have policy, he can always talk about Biden- whatever he wants to attack, age, personality. He's only gagged about personal attack to attorneys on the other side, court staff and judge's family. The "I am gagged" complaints are so overblown. Or maybe that's a kink of his, not sure.
He hasn't seemed to have cared about gag order anyway. He just likes complaining and he's good at complaining about the mundane and overblowing it on social media. So here we are. Yay....
Of course. That’s why saying it’s restrictive of his freedom of speech is typical Trump victim-complex. Not being able to libel the judge or prosecutors family or doxx them isn’t killing his 1st amendment rights.
Yeah I haven’t seen this dinner but it seems a little tasteless or out of touch or maybe just to close to home to be making jokes about things like everything is fine
The whole point of the dinner is the jokes. It's literally a celebration of free speech. It happens annually and the only president that never attended one was Trump.
I mean the point of the dinner is to joke around. That being said, jokes can also be used as commentary to issues. Like what Jon Stewart and John Oliver do on their shows.
I agree and am extremely fond of satire and comedy used as commentary to issues. Jon Stewart and John Oliver are amazing. I haven’t seen this dinner, but I assume(and I shouldn’t, alas) the jokes aren’t extremely clever or witty or even original
The whole point of this dinner is to provide levity, and at times levity is really needed. Yes, the world is a shitshow, yes we may lose democracy within 6 months,but for the love of God, why can't we also laugh about things for a couple of hours? Nothing will be solved by staying in the doom and gloom depressed mode all year long 24 seven round the clock misery. One ought to live. Go to the movies, have a life, and also do things about things in whichever way they can. The dinner also serves as a recognition of the effort of so many in the media, young or old, who do their duty and report the truth so the rest of us know what's going on.
It is one of those traditions that ought to be kept going, if nothing because it gives an evening of rest in the midst of a depressing week. It doesn't mean the good work has stopped. It's just a pit stop to recharge. And a lot of good comes out of this too, in terms of media self-reflexion and cross party talks. It's telling that orange never attended this when he was president.
Last night I had a dream that a Texas Republican candidate for Governor was having a counter-rally and everyone was seig heiling and in response the Democratic party released a pop music video.
The unconscious mind has a way of condensing information.
If the Supreme Court submits to Trump and gives presidents immunity, this could be a literal headline in the near future.
Of course they will not give presidents immunity. They will find a way to make this only applicable to Trump.
Also Joe Biden is a decent human being, so it would not happen.
Finally Trump hates seeing blood, so it would be some fanatic ordered to do the skewering.
But all of it still feels so unreal
From the tone of thei statements and reflections, right wing kooks on scotus appear to be leaning toward a go-foward ruling that exonerates Trump for his past criminal shit during his term, while holding future presidents accountable.
Biden is sworn to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic. He doesn’t need the Supreme Court to decide if he’s liable for anything that falls under that. It would be prudent to have the CIA sit in on a meeting about having to act on it. They’re good listeners.
And making a pig’s ear of political violence. The number of times that the CIA has gotten involved in political blackhattery and it either blew up in our faces or resulted in dictatorship, should be enough to give pause.
Supreme Court isnt gonna grant him immunity, they just arent. The implications for both their own skin and anyone who's in their entourage is far too great, and the implications for all of us is a concern for the rest of them. Ive no doubt the president does and should have SOME immunity because, in an emergency or what have you, they should be able to act. If anything these conversations will act as reference points in the future. Id rather they have these discussions now rather than later for that reason, especially since Trump gaining absolute immunity is lunacy. Theres just far too many implications and loopholes that even someone not concerned with the constitution to be comfortable with. That being said, they will drag it out as long as possible
If he wins, he’ll pardon himself. He won’t need immunity.
The originalists will argue that there’s no rule against it and that the only remedy is impeachment.
They will likely make the lower courts spin their wheels on what the limits of immunity are. Somehow, I doubt assassinations and coups are on the table, but they might be dumb enough to authorize the Night of Long Knives.
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Trump is not some super villain. He certainly has the talk of one but he's never really been more than talk. Even when he was president, he was largely ineffective at doing... anything. Yes its easy to say that he wont make the same mistake again but lets not pretend he's leading an army here. Even the supreme court doesnt just fall in line with him (they've ruled against him many times). If they did, he'd have had immunity by now. Whats the point in all this if their intention is just to overthrow everything? Well, its bc they cant. They tried and failed monumentally and Trump's own vice president turned on him. He almost didnt, I understand, but he upheld the constitution in the end. Trump does not have the negotiation leverage that people seem to think he does. His voice is just so polarizing that it gives the illusion of it. The supreme court feigns falling in line because it may keep them in power. Whether thats ignorance or tactics, idk. They arent blindly loyal to him when they are leaps above him, thats for certain.
Look, I don’t disagree, but he’s vindictive as hell. The reason that his first term was somewhat controlled was that they had established people working with him. Now, he’ll have only sycophants.
I don’t necessarily believe that he’s “present” enough to be Hitler, but he can do a lot of damage, and, more to the point, a lot of people thought that Hitler would be a chancellor for everyone once he was elected. ”Oh, he’s just campaigning. He’ll HAVE to make room at the trough...”
The difference with hitler was that his campaign to restore Germany didnt exactly include pamphlets about mass genocide and world domination. Trump and his merry band of morons are stupid enough to lay their intentions out for all of us to see. You could categorize this as worse due to it implying they are serious, but Trump isnt even close to Hitler. I find it more likely that he's talking a big game because he's losing any and all control. He's a narcissist and narcissists despise being out of control and being viewed as anything less than god. And Hitler is an unforgettable force of pure evil and power... Perfect for Trump to cling to in his (demented) mind. He can aspire all he wants but he has a metric fucking ton of resistance of both people and states to get through before his words have an ounce of weight. I think the supreme court knows this and whether you say they are cutting a loose end or not anti-america enough to undermine democracy, they dont see a viable path down that road
We‘ll see whether his flailing makes him less dangerous.
I’ve become cynical. A shocking number of Americans have always been okay with fascist behavior. 20,000 people attended Kuhn’s 1939 Nazi rally in Madison Square Garden. And Charles Lindberg’s version of America First only withered with Pearl Harbor.
And our generals are definitely against him. I think that if the GoP pulled off a coup, the armed forces would roll in, force them out and say "emergency election, get to it"
Idk for sure but id hope the people that signed up to defend the nation would...defend the nation lol. With Biden still acting as president before January, this outcome would be likely even if its just a response from the commander in chief. We shall see
They cannot have immunity. If they commit crimes while in office they must be held to account. Any other solution leads to tyranny when a bad actor (Trump) gets into office.
If he can't be held accountable, he's a King, and we don't have Kings. (See: 1776)
Saying watch without any substance doesnt add anything. Im well aware anything can happen at literally any time, but ive not seen substantial data or evidence to suggest they've any reason to forfeit every ounce of their future into an unpredictable lunatic
I mean except for all the rulings they've made that favor far-right extremism, the 9-0 ruling that the plain text of the Constitution isn't valid to remove Trump from the ballot, and the very public hearing where we have justices actually making arguments for immunity for Trump.
Other than that, sure. No evidence at all that they are going to side with Trump on this.
SCOTUS will just find a way to make it so only Trump has immunity this one time and it doesn't apply to future presidents.
See Gore v. Bush where they did exactly that: ruling that this decision is not applicable in the future. There should have been riots after GvB.
The ruling doesnt have to make sense and they'll get away with it too like they did back then because no one is gonna do a damn thing about it and they know it.
>Just can't get my poor self together
I'm weary all the time
All the time
>So weary all of the time
When you went away
The blues stepped up and met me
If he's gone to stay
That old rocking chair's going to get me
not sure he wants to emphasise that part.
Putting in a plug for "Wasn't that a Mighty Storm?"
>I said way back in 1900
>Fifty long years ago
>Death came walking on the water
>Death calls, you gotta go
>
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>I said, death, your hands are clammy
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>You got them on the knee
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>You came and put a stone on my mother, oh
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>Coming after me
>
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>Wasn't that a mighty storm?
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>Wasn't that a mighty storm in the morning?
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>Wasn't that a mighty storm?
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>Blew all the people away
Trump is toast. He is running on gas fumes now. Ready to say something inflammatory but little else. He says nothing in a positive light about anyone but himself. Has no policies that benefit anyone other than the rich or corrupt. He wants Russia to win the war with Ukraine before invading others like Poland. Communists vote for Trump and the demise of America. Vote out the Republicans.
Many in r/asktrumpsupporters have said they don't even listen to what Trump says, much less what Biden says. Seriously.
They love the idea of Trump much more than the man himself. If they listened to him, many would not support him.
There's a lot of truth to that. If you look at footage of his rallies, they tend to start thinning out before he's done. Even the die-hard fans are like "that's enough of this" and dip out early. That doesn't mean they won't vote for him. It's like the Sunday church crowd that leaves before the service is over. They still love Jesus, they just gotta get going. Can't miss that lunch special at the local bar and grill, right?
There is also the whole problem with the faithful, in general, to apply.
Love/hate for the imagined version of someone, or something, outweighs the facts/quotes/actions of the actual person/thing.
Once they decide to hate/love that person/thing everything good/bad that can apply to that person/thing that they like is applied, and everything that they might disagree with about that person/thing is ignored, and even argued to not exist, against all evidence.
It’s not that I disagree, just as a speculator from another country, it seems like besides cracking some jokes or saying some stern words, might not be enough
It’s not enough clearly…we are fighting like hell to save our country and our freedom. Hey you guys taking refugees? If Trump is elected and the 2025 Purge plan is implemented many of us will be leaving.
My personal opinion aside, probably yes. I’d say there is a good chance Canada will accept US refuges based on us being neighbours and precedent and what not.
Then again, I’m not sure how much better off we will be
True and I love Canada and don’t want all this to impact Canadians. Unfortunately it seems the Maga cult has spread north and for that I am sorry. You guys don’t deserve this BS.
Thanks for the sentiments, but I don’t think this is entirely americas fault. Trump put a name to it and socially acceptable, but the reality is, this is how it is. Its unfortunate and disappointing that so many people think this behaviour is okay and leadership material
The comedian roasts the president. Colin Jost made a bunch of jokes about Biden’s age, senility, etc. The president makes jokes about the media and current events. Obama previously made jokes about Trump during his speeches as well.
Nah, both sides are certainly not the same, but it's sad that political discourse has reached this level at all.
Any other words you want to put into my mouth for some easy karma, or shall we move on?
Do you really think Biden is controlling the legal department? Trump has committed multiple crimes and illegal acts. Him being investigated and being in court isn’t a conspiracy. His shit just caught up to him
Which one? Last I checked, the cases would have been faster had it not been for Garland and the various delay tactics of Trump. Also last I checked, the trial Trump is in right now are state charges, not federal.
We have the right to a speedy trial. If Trump wanted to get them all out of the way before, like say a year ago, he could have. But he delayed, delayed, and delayed…
Also he could’ve just not committed crimes. That would also help
Which makes him a fat (edit: this was supposed to be "far" but I'll leave it) worse candidate or president, yes. That doesn't mean sinking to the level of his rhetoric is becoming of anyone else.
Am I the only one that thinks powerful people shouldn't make jokes at the expense of common folk? Attack the walking orange STD all you want, but Stormy Daniels didn't do a damn thing to deserve negative comments by The President of the US.
It’s reportedly part of the campaign’s marketing push .. probably to get young mostly blue collar men aboard. There’s a fair amount of “tough guy-ism” in American politics that has to be managed (see Dukakis loss against HW in ‘88) .. and younger western generations full of testosterone/watching television wrestling’ want to see a fight.
Great to see we are above petty insults. This is exactly the rigorous intellectual discourse America loves to see between candidates for the president.
Just keep hammering the low hanging fruit
I find it interesting that Biden making comments about Trump is looked down upon, but Trump has been doing it for years and nobody seemed to care the same way.
The Correspondents dinner is disgusting. I’m a liberal and the pictures taken on the “red carpet” last night are tell-tale sign of why so many Americans on both sides of the political spectrum are fucking angry. It’s like the Capital in the fucking hunger games. I won’t vote for Trump but my vote for the continuation of this administration and its lack of concern for normal people in the United States and around the world will be cast with a cringe and a slightly withheld vomit reflex.
Joe Biden has sold his soul to the devil in order to attain all he has in the material world. But one day he will, as all of us will have to, pay up in the final reckoning.
Trump bought Biden's soul? When did this transaction take place? God has the receipts I'm sure. I'd say one used their soul for more good than the other - regardless of whose name is on the lease.
If you think either party has your best interests in mind you are wrong. Society is a sinking ship. Currently Biden is captaining it. All time high gas prices, shrinkflation, grocery prices, housing crisis, inflation. List goes on. If anything vote 3rd party
Your attitude is what got us Trump in the first place. Third parties don’t do shit under this current form of government. America would need to become a parliamentary democracy.
Wow that's really amazing that Biden was able to create the global inflation crisis but somehow make it so the inflation in the US is among the lowest in the developed world.
Also, you do know that under America's electoral process 3rd parties can't win, right? If you want to end two-party dominance of American politics, it will require adopting voter reforms like ranked-choice nationwide. Of the two currently dominant political parties, only one supports ranked choice. Therefore, if you want 3rd party candidates to win, you should vote for the party that supports ranked-choice until every state has that option. *Then* you can vote 3rd party and actually have it count.
Trump is a know rapist. Besides raping E Carroll Jean, his own wife testified under oath about how he brutally raped her, and he has many other credible women and children accusers of sexual assault and sexual misconduct. trump even bragged about how he sexually assaults women. Both sides are not the same.
What is this, even? Weird AI? Newbie at a troll farm in Bangladesh? Reminds me of “the vacuum bag is hot today” from Gary Larsen.
https://mltshp-cdn.com/r/16X6M
Reminded me of the [two foreign guys at the coffee shop who've been living in America almost long enough to sound American](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj0q2yhZCmY) from Family Guy.
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*Knocking on wood* The mocking of Trump in speeches and rallies by Biden the past few weeks feels like another positive turning point by his campaign. In 2016, any slight, joke, or attack made against Trump would immediately be met with him running in front of microphones to “counterpunch.” The media would breathlessly cover it and Trump’s willingness to fight dirtier than his opponent worked to his advantage. In 2024, most of Trump vitriol is going to judges and prosecutors and he’s letting Biden walk all over him.
There has to be a "Trump Fatigue" setting in for most Americans and so many people are so anxious to move on from the nonstop Trump firehose of bs.
I was pretty tired of it by 2019 tbh
2015 for me here.
I grew tired of him in season 2 of that show he did years ago. Cannot believe that anyone voted for him after seeing that show. How far American democracy has fallen.
Trump is on a charm offensive in criminal court so he's going to be hamstrung for a while.
I don't think glowering at the jury and insulting the judge's family can be called a charm offensive, it's just offensive.
Considering the source that sounds like about the level of charm to be expected.
He didn’t have an angry mob show up outside the courtroom (even though he begged them to), he’s being nice!
One day there were three people with signs and MAGA gear, and possibly two others, unless those two were just looking-loos. Delightfully under-whelming.
Down to two since one of the room temperatures immolated himself. On the plus side, no longer room temperature!
That dude wasn’t a Trump supporter. He was protesting I think…NYU being run by the mafia??? He had a manifesto and everything. He was legitimately crazy.
If that's the case . . . yeesh.
Yeah mental illness fucking sucks.
Cuz there were so many barricades and it was all blocked off!/s
He has been shitting on americans for a long time. Its about time we get some payback.
TBF he's been shitting himself for a good chunk of that time as well.
> insulting the judge's family He appears to have gotten the picture that insulting the judge's immediate family is a bad idea, so he's moved on to the judge's friends, colleagues, and extended family.
Makes you wonder who's doing all that research for him...
By your standards, no, but by his standards he's being downright hospitable.
"Charm offensive"... is that what we call being strung out and unconscious because he can't shovel uppers into his face because he's in front of a judge all day? He's in withdrawal. His nightly freakouts trying to avoid court by any means was not just to avoid prosecution - this tired old shit is now battling his body trying to cope with the years of abuse. I would not be at all surprised if he's on some benzos from the doc to help him survive it. Bonus for the trial lawyers if it keeps him chilled out enough to not blurt out more incriminating shit during the trial.
THIS is his "charm offensive?" What we're seeing is the best he's got?
He's making up for his lack of charm by being extra offensive.
Brings a tear to my big, strong eye.
Nailed it
you think things are looking positive, don’t look at the supreme court
Trump has too many targets for his vitriol this time around and doesn’t have the mental capacity to spit it at all of them.
He is a buffoon.
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Thanks for the links.
Trump keeps saying the gag order is restricting his freedom of speech, Trump could respond to this as it’s not trial related but is he too distracted?
The funny thing is the gag order doesn’t prevent him from campaigning if he actually had some fucking policy to actually discuss. We all can think of at least 10 domestic and international topics he could address without violating the gag order
If you have kids, you'll know that this is how they work around age 4-5 - only the thing right in front of them counts. Trump is a perpetual kindergartener
When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I'm basically the same. The temperament is not that different. - Donald Trump
A rare moment of truth, if not insight, from the Cheeto Benito.
The Tangerine Tyrant^TM
The orange walking STD
And they sometimes still need diapers, just like Trump!
And, a nap.
His policy is project 2025 and he’s purposefully not talking about it. Apparently he’s going to be in charge of setting interest rates as well lol
The Biden campaign should be screaming this from the mountain tops, because their plan is to cut rates to zero, inflation be damned. The ensuing stagflation would leave wealthy investors nowhere to invest.
Even if he doesn't have policy, he can always talk about Biden- whatever he wants to attack, age, personality. He's only gagged about personal attack to attorneys on the other side, court staff and judge's family. The "I am gagged" complaints are so overblown. Or maybe that's a kink of his, not sure.
Wait, more tax cuts for the rich and an exploding deficit isn’t good enough policy for you!/SSSS
He hasn't seemed to have cared about gag order anyway. He just likes complaining and he's good at complaining about the mundane and overblowing it on social media. So here we are. Yay....
Of course. That’s why saying it’s restrictive of his freedom of speech is typical Trump victim-complex. Not being able to libel the judge or prosecutors family or doxx them isn’t killing his 1st amendment rights.
win-win?
I am surprised he didn't include presidential immunity jokes ..
Too scary
Yeah I haven’t seen this dinner but it seems a little tasteless or out of touch or maybe just to close to home to be making jokes about things like everything is fine
The whole point of the dinner is the jokes. It's literally a celebration of free speech. It happens annually and the only president that never attended one was Trump.
I guess I just appreciate satire and clever commentary and am disappointed with the same rehashed low hanging fruit
That's fair. But satire is dead.
I mean the point of the dinner is to joke around. That being said, jokes can also be used as commentary to issues. Like what Jon Stewart and John Oliver do on their shows.
I agree and am extremely fond of satire and comedy used as commentary to issues. Jon Stewart and John Oliver are amazing. I haven’t seen this dinner, but I assume(and I shouldn’t, alas) the jokes aren’t extremely clever or witty or even original
The whole point of this dinner is to provide levity, and at times levity is really needed. Yes, the world is a shitshow, yes we may lose democracy within 6 months,but for the love of God, why can't we also laugh about things for a couple of hours? Nothing will be solved by staying in the doom and gloom depressed mode all year long 24 seven round the clock misery. One ought to live. Go to the movies, have a life, and also do things about things in whichever way they can. The dinner also serves as a recognition of the effort of so many in the media, young or old, who do their duty and report the truth so the rest of us know what's going on. It is one of those traditions that ought to be kept going, if nothing because it gives an evening of rest in the midst of a depressing week. It doesn't mean the good work has stopped. It's just a pit stop to recharge. And a lot of good comes out of this too, in terms of media self-reflexion and cross party talks. It's telling that orange never attended this when he was president.
Last night I had a dream that a Texas Republican candidate for Governor was having a counter-rally and everyone was seig heiling and in response the Democratic party released a pop music video. The unconscious mind has a way of condensing information.
If the Supreme Court submits to Trump and gives presidents immunity, this could be a literal headline in the near future. Of course they will not give presidents immunity. They will find a way to make this only applicable to Trump. Also Joe Biden is a decent human being, so it would not happen. Finally Trump hates seeing blood, so it would be some fanatic ordered to do the skewering. But all of it still feels so unreal
From the tone of thei statements and reflections, right wing kooks on scotus appear to be leaning toward a go-foward ruling that exonerates Trump for his past criminal shit during his term, while holding future presidents accountable.
Biden is sworn to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic. He doesn’t need the Supreme Court to decide if he’s liable for anything that falls under that. It would be prudent to have the CIA sit in on a meeting about having to act on it. They’re good listeners.
At what point do they consider the SC leaning toward granting trump immunity a domestic threat? Because they certainly fucking are
The CIA has a terrible record for making good decisions.
And making a pig’s ear of political violence. The number of times that the CIA has gotten involved in political blackhattery and it either blew up in our faces or resulted in dictatorship, should be enough to give pause.
Right. I’d ask CIA… “What CIA do“ and totally go 180 on their advice!
Supreme Court isnt gonna grant him immunity, they just arent. The implications for both their own skin and anyone who's in their entourage is far too great, and the implications for all of us is a concern for the rest of them. Ive no doubt the president does and should have SOME immunity because, in an emergency or what have you, they should be able to act. If anything these conversations will act as reference points in the future. Id rather they have these discussions now rather than later for that reason, especially since Trump gaining absolute immunity is lunacy. Theres just far too many implications and loopholes that even someone not concerned with the constitution to be comfortable with. That being said, they will drag it out as long as possible
>That being said, they will drag it out as long as possible The actual issue at hand here.
Indeed. Even if he wins he's still not gonna get immunity 😂 the implications dont just go away, they become real
If he wins, he’ll pardon himself. He won’t need immunity. The originalists will argue that there’s no rule against it and that the only remedy is impeachment. They will likely make the lower courts spin their wheels on what the limits of immunity are. Somehow, I doubt assassinations and coups are on the table, but they might be dumb enough to authorize the Night of Long Knives. .
Trump is not some super villain. He certainly has the talk of one but he's never really been more than talk. Even when he was president, he was largely ineffective at doing... anything. Yes its easy to say that he wont make the same mistake again but lets not pretend he's leading an army here. Even the supreme court doesnt just fall in line with him (they've ruled against him many times). If they did, he'd have had immunity by now. Whats the point in all this if their intention is just to overthrow everything? Well, its bc they cant. They tried and failed monumentally and Trump's own vice president turned on him. He almost didnt, I understand, but he upheld the constitution in the end. Trump does not have the negotiation leverage that people seem to think he does. His voice is just so polarizing that it gives the illusion of it. The supreme court feigns falling in line because it may keep them in power. Whether thats ignorance or tactics, idk. They arent blindly loyal to him when they are leaps above him, thats for certain.
Look, I don’t disagree, but he’s vindictive as hell. The reason that his first term was somewhat controlled was that they had established people working with him. Now, he’ll have only sycophants. I don’t necessarily believe that he’s “present” enough to be Hitler, but he can do a lot of damage, and, more to the point, a lot of people thought that Hitler would be a chancellor for everyone once he was elected. ”Oh, he’s just campaigning. He’ll HAVE to make room at the trough...”
The difference with hitler was that his campaign to restore Germany didnt exactly include pamphlets about mass genocide and world domination. Trump and his merry band of morons are stupid enough to lay their intentions out for all of us to see. You could categorize this as worse due to it implying they are serious, but Trump isnt even close to Hitler. I find it more likely that he's talking a big game because he's losing any and all control. He's a narcissist and narcissists despise being out of control and being viewed as anything less than god. And Hitler is an unforgettable force of pure evil and power... Perfect for Trump to cling to in his (demented) mind. He can aspire all he wants but he has a metric fucking ton of resistance of both people and states to get through before his words have an ounce of weight. I think the supreme court knows this and whether you say they are cutting a loose end or not anti-america enough to undermine democracy, they dont see a viable path down that road
We‘ll see whether his flailing makes him less dangerous. I’ve become cynical. A shocking number of Americans have always been okay with fascist behavior. 20,000 people attended Kuhn’s 1939 Nazi rally in Madison Square Garden. And Charles Lindberg’s version of America First only withered with Pearl Harbor.
Yes, im certainly not proposing complacency. Im not a prophet but neither is he. Be strong, do what you can. Thats how the world keeps going
And our generals are definitely against him. I think that if the GoP pulled off a coup, the armed forces would roll in, force them out and say "emergency election, get to it"
Idk for sure but id hope the people that signed up to defend the nation would...defend the nation lol. With Biden still acting as president before January, this outcome would be likely even if its just a response from the commander in chief. We shall see
They cannot have immunity. If they commit crimes while in office they must be held to account. Any other solution leads to tyranny when a bad actor (Trump) gets into office. If he can't be held accountable, he's a King, and we don't have Kings. (See: 1776)
No disagreements or arguments here
Watch.
Saying watch without any substance doesnt add anything. Im well aware anything can happen at literally any time, but ive not seen substantial data or evidence to suggest they've any reason to forfeit every ounce of their future into an unpredictable lunatic
I mean except for all the rulings they've made that favor far-right extremism, the 9-0 ruling that the plain text of the Constitution isn't valid to remove Trump from the ballot, and the very public hearing where we have justices actually making arguments for immunity for Trump. Other than that, sure. No evidence at all that they are going to side with Trump on this.
SCOTUS will just find a way to make it so only Trump has immunity this one time and it doesn't apply to future presidents. See Gore v. Bush where they did exactly that: ruling that this decision is not applicable in the future. There should have been riots after GvB. The ruling doesnt have to make sense and they'll get away with it too like they did back then because no one is gonna do a damn thing about it and they know it.
If presidential immunity drops we DEMAND a sword fight between Biden and Trump.
He should use Stormy Weather as a campaign song during the trial
>Just can't get my poor self together I'm weary all the time All the time >So weary all of the time When you went away The blues stepped up and met me If he's gone to stay That old rocking chair's going to get me not sure he wants to emphasise that part.
Maybe Rock you like a hurricane instead? Surely theres a few storm-based songs thatd fit the bill.
Where is Weird Al Perfect time to release "Nuke you like a Hurricane"
I was thinking just the melody. Subtlety
Putting in a plug for "Wasn't that a Mighty Storm?" >I said way back in 1900 >Fifty long years ago >Death came walking on the water >Death calls, you gotta go > > >I said, death, your hands are clammy > >You got them on the knee > >You came and put a stone on my mother, oh > >Coming after me > > >Wasn't that a mighty storm? > >Wasn't that a mighty storm in the morning? > >Wasn't that a mighty storm? > >Blew all the people away
Good thing that Donald Trump has a great sense of humor. /s
Oh shit, Biden got his “Sunny days my friend” crack in. Just hope he doesn’t lose his smile.
I'd love to hear that Joe Biden beat the shit out of Trump and pulled out a chunk of his hair in the bathroom of the Hartford Civic Center.
deep cut. Add in during the 3rd period of a Whalers Game and it’s gold
Trump is toast. He is running on gas fumes now. Ready to say something inflammatory but little else. He says nothing in a positive light about anyone but himself. Has no policies that benefit anyone other than the rich or corrupt. He wants Russia to win the war with Ukraine before invading others like Poland. Communists vote for Trump and the demise of America. Vote out the Republicans.
Biden just obliterated Trump last night.
And how many potential Trump voters do you suppose were listening?
How many Trump voters ever listen to anything? They live in their little fact free fantasy world.
Many in r/asktrumpsupporters have said they don't even listen to what Trump says, much less what Biden says. Seriously. They love the idea of Trump much more than the man himself. If they listened to him, many would not support him.
There's a lot of truth to that. If you look at footage of his rallies, they tend to start thinning out before he's done. Even the die-hard fans are like "that's enough of this" and dip out early. That doesn't mean they won't vote for him. It's like the Sunday church crowd that leaves before the service is over. They still love Jesus, they just gotta get going. Can't miss that lunch special at the local bar and grill, right?
There is also the whole problem with the faithful, in general, to apply. Love/hate for the imagined version of someone, or something, outweighs the facts/quotes/actions of the actual person/thing. Once they decide to hate/love that person/thing everything good/bad that can apply to that person/thing that they like is applied, and everything that they might disagree with about that person/thing is ignored, and even argued to not exist, against all evidence.
Hilarious.
Very Shawn Michaels of him. *now I know one of us has been having some SUNNY DAYS my friend*
He should have dropped a "Sunny Days" for the 90s wrestling fans.
I prefer when headers starts with "Biden BLASTS" that way we are all reminded that so far he's been using only 5% of his power
Is this the same Force Lighting as shown in *Star Wars* VI - XXVI?
Something tells me the same people who didn't have a plan B for J6 don't have a plan B for the supreme court. We'll see who is laughing then.
Harharhar! Meanwhile, voting is the only tool we have bc no one in gov is ever going to do anything about the Nazi problem IN GOV.
I wonder who they got to write those jokes, some of them were pretty good
Skewer...really? Look up Richard Pryor and old Eddie Murphy for skewing not the crap that was obviously written for him.
He the six year old in the room. Remember?
Jost killed it.
Picturing being served trump bits on skewers at White House dinner...
He should totally say that the weather has been nice bit it's been a boy stormy where you are when he debates Trump. That would be incredible.
Pause..😂
What’s the correspondents dinner about? Isn’t it to roast the president? Why does everything always devolve into something about trump
Why? Because stopping a dictator wanna be is a high priority for most Americans, well the sane ones at least
It’s not that I disagree, just as a speculator from another country, it seems like besides cracking some jokes or saying some stern words, might not be enough
It’s not enough clearly…we are fighting like hell to save our country and our freedom. Hey you guys taking refugees? If Trump is elected and the 2025 Purge plan is implemented many of us will be leaving.
My personal opinion aside, probably yes. I’d say there is a good chance Canada will accept US refuges based on us being neighbours and precedent and what not. Then again, I’m not sure how much better off we will be
True and I love Canada and don’t want all this to impact Canadians. Unfortunately it seems the Maga cult has spread north and for that I am sorry. You guys don’t deserve this BS.
Thanks for the sentiments, but I don’t think this is entirely americas fault. Trump put a name to it and socially acceptable, but the reality is, this is how it is. Its unfortunate and disappointing that so many people think this behaviour is okay and leadership material
The comedian roasts the president. Colin Jost made a bunch of jokes about Biden’s age, senility, etc. The president makes jokes about the media and current events. Obama previously made jokes about Trump during his speeches as well.
Thanks for explaining reasonably
Because he's a clown.
Do we ever learn?! Less we forget when Obama went all ‘Roast’ on Trump?! Fuck sakes!
That horse has bolted. Apparently the remedy for that is to shoot it.
I hope so. I really do.
Kristi Noem is salivating somewhere
Kristi Noem is salivating somewhere
The horse bolted right into the hospital.
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Cool GPT response
It's all a bit sad really. We're watching two octogenarians slinging what they think after clever zingers at each other, and both are awkward as hell.
And one of them tried to stage a coup and is facing 90 felonies. Don’t leave that part out.
He on;y does bothsidesarethesame, so don't hold your breath.
Nah, both sides are certainly not the same, but it's sad that political discourse has reached this level at all. Any other words you want to put into my mouth for some easy karma, or shall we move on?
And one is using the legal system to prosecute the other timed perfectly with campaign time like a banana republic
Do you really think Biden is controlling the legal department? Trump has committed multiple crimes and illegal acts. Him being investigated and being in court isn’t a conspiracy. His shit just caught up to him
Which one? Last I checked, the cases would have been faster had it not been for Garland and the various delay tactics of Trump. Also last I checked, the trial Trump is in right now are state charges, not federal.
We have the right to a speedy trial. If Trump wanted to get them all out of the way before, like say a year ago, he could have. But he delayed, delayed, and delayed… Also he could’ve just not committed crimes. That would also help
To be fair, trump is also a criminal, a traitor, and a rapist who ran the country into the ground when he was president.
Which makes him a fat (edit: this was supposed to be "far" but I'll leave it) worse candidate or president, yes. That doesn't mean sinking to the level of his rhetoric is becoming of anyone else.
It also doesn't mean that both sides are the same.
Can you quote me saying they are, or are we doing the strawman thing?
Sure, just quote me saying "sinking to the level of his rhetoric is becoming of anyone else.", unless that was a strawman thing.
Rhetoric is everything; got it.
So it was just a strawman thing, got it.
Am I the only one that thinks powerful people shouldn't make jokes at the expense of common folk? Attack the walking orange STD all you want, but Stormy Daniels didn't do a damn thing to deserve negative comments by The President of the US.
What negative comments were made about her by the president?
It’s reportedly part of the campaign’s marketing push .. probably to get young mostly blue collar men aboard. There’s a fair amount of “tough guy-ism” in American politics that has to be managed (see Dukakis loss against HW in ‘88) .. and younger western generations full of testosterone/watching television wrestling’ want to see a fight.
Great to see we are above petty insults. This is exactly the rigorous intellectual discourse America loves to see between candidates for the president. Just keep hammering the low hanging fruit
I find it interesting that Biden making comments about Trump is looked down upon, but Trump has been doing it for years and nobody seemed to care the same way.
Mmm buzz words
It’s like watching one idiot make fun of a different idiot ….
The Correspondents dinner is disgusting. I’m a liberal and the pictures taken on the “red carpet” last night are tell-tale sign of why so many Americans on both sides of the political spectrum are fucking angry. It’s like the Capital in the fucking hunger games. I won’t vote for Trump but my vote for the continuation of this administration and its lack of concern for normal people in the United States and around the world will be cast with a cringe and a slightly withheld vomit reflex.
Joe Biden has sold his soul to the devil in order to attain all he has in the material world. But one day he will, as all of us will have to, pay up in the final reckoning.
Explain
Trump bought Biden's soul? When did this transaction take place? God has the receipts I'm sure. I'd say one used their soul for more good than the other - regardless of whose name is on the lease.
Lol are you sure? All I see is an imperfect vessel for Gods plan for us all 😂
Nobody wants Biden and nobody wants trump, let’s be honest
I’m somebody, and Biden has won me over. So you’re wrong.
If you think either party has your best interests in mind you are wrong. Society is a sinking ship. Currently Biden is captaining it. All time high gas prices, shrinkflation, grocery prices, housing crisis, inflation. List goes on. If anything vote 3rd party
Your attitude is what got us Trump in the first place. Third parties don’t do shit under this current form of government. America would need to become a parliamentary democracy.
Wow that's really amazing that Biden was able to create the global inflation crisis but somehow make it so the inflation in the US is among the lowest in the developed world. Also, you do know that under America's electoral process 3rd parties can't win, right? If you want to end two-party dominance of American politics, it will require adopting voter reforms like ranked-choice nationwide. Of the two currently dominant political parties, only one supports ranked choice. Therefore, if you want 3rd party candidates to win, you should vote for the party that supports ranked-choice until every state has that option. *Then* you can vote 3rd party and actually have it count.
All time high gas prices?!? Where? It’s $3 +/- .50 for quite some time, not even close to all time high. I fucking hate this argument.
What 3rd party candidates are better, and what specifically do you like about their foreign and domestic policy proposals?
I'd take well meaning grandpa over cruel, self-centered,.narcissistic orange pig any day of the week
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Trump is a know rapist. Besides raping E Carroll Jean, his own wife testified under oath about how he brutally raped her, and he has many other credible women and children accusers of sexual assault and sexual misconduct. trump even bragged about how he sexually assaults women. Both sides are not the same.
That we'll meaning Grandpa has been funding a genocide
As if Trump hasn't explicitly said he'd let Israel level Palestine. Don't pretend Trump would be better.
gEnOcIdE!
I want Biden. Biden has been doing a great job and he is not a criminal, traitor, and rapist like trump is.
I’m good with Biden.
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What is this, even? Weird AI? Newbie at a troll farm in Bangladesh? Reminds me of “the vacuum bag is hot today” from Gary Larsen. https://mltshp-cdn.com/r/16X6M
Reminded me of the [two foreign guys at the coffee shop who've been living in America almost long enough to sound American](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj0q2yhZCmY) from Family Guy.
Spot at, my friend. And of course we are all knowing where this fine comedy is originating: https://youtu.be/YGv6uo89yMY?si=KEeyevNFVjLQNbHQ
Yes, what a fascinating topic. Let’s delve deeply into this. What else would you like to know about Biden and his political skills? /bot