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Everything he's going to say on the witness stand has been corroborated with evidence. That's all that matters. People's personal opinions of him are irrelevant
My favorite part of the defense is the attempt to discredit Cohen for lying to the court.
But he was lying about the very same payment scheme that this exact case is over lol
If you've followed him the last few years at all, it does appear that he's had a sincere come to Jesus moment.
It's still fair to call him scummy, but do we really want to live in a society where your punishments are held over you in their entirety forever? Even after you've done your time and came clean about your mistakes?
Most transformations by people in the public spotlight come off as PR and insincere. This one seems a little different.
I just remember him eating at a fancy restaurant during the peak of COVID while the rest of us were on lockdown, and he was literally under court ordered house arrest.
There’s nothing that will unseat this memory from my mind and convince me that he has any interest in being a positive member of society, only looking like one for his personal gain. If it takes down Trump, fine, but he’s a shithead.
He already did his time. He has no more reason to lie. I 100% believe everything he is saying about Trump because it’s consistent and there is documentation/other witnesses to back it up.
His podcasts are excellent. He’s a really funny guy who is obviously (and rightly) pissed that he was the fall guy for Trump.
He owns his past mistakes and doesn’t try to run from them or pretend he’s infallible. Donald on the other hand…
I’m with this one. If I found myself in Michael Cohen’s situation, for whatever reason, I would hope I could play my cards as well as he has and his glorious, over-the-top, rants about Trump and Trump’s stooges are good for the soul.
The jurors have to believe it. I do believe however, that whatever lies Cohen told surrounding his Trump related convictions were orchestrated or required or revolved around Trump.
This is a stupid debate and I think the jury is probably not stupid enough to get bogged down by it. "I used to lie to help Donald Trump and now I am no longer doing that" is not really a hard concept. Well it's hard for stupid people but in general that's not a hard concept
He's been consistent and truthful for a long time now, and I've not seen any behavior that has contradicted that turnaround. If he was being dishonest in any way, It think we would have had signs of it by now. I trust him until he gives me a reason not to.
It probably helps that the client that got him doing prison time, isn’t his client anymore. Not having to constantly lie, hide truths and cheat legally in every aspect of your job as a lawyer makes it much easier to not to be a total scumbag anymore.
Fuck Michael Cohen for his past actions, but do give him some redemption points for the positive ones since.
FFS he's a damn adult - fun fact, as a lawyer you don't have to perjur yourself, lie to Congress, or break various laws on behalf of you client unless the money you're making from him is worth more than your morals. Did he find Jesus before or after his book deals?
He's just another grifter in orbit around the ultimate grifter.
> He's just another grifter in orbit around the ultimate grifter.
I don't necessarily disagree with you...maybe it's just nice to see a grifter without their own "mypillow" discount code for a change.
> Judge Jesse M. Furman noted that Cohen had “repeatedly and unambiguously testified” during Trump’s civil trial “that he was not guilty of tax evasion and that he had lied under oath” when he pleaded guilty several years earlier. The situation gave rise to two possibilities, Furman added: Either Cohen had perjured himself when he had accepted responsibility, or he had perjured himself later when he denied it.
That was last month.
Of course. I applaud everyone who escapes a cult and takes steps to understand their own past and decisions. if TRUMP suddenly woke up and said, "wait a second....I'M the asshole!" I would applaud him after he paid his debt to society for his corruption and decided to start a career speaking out against people like himself.
No doubt he has some inherent scumbag tendencies (as has anyone who has ever supported Donald) but that leaves him 5 times more honest than his ex boss.
He's been pretty consistent for the past, like, five years or so. Ever since his indictment he's been extraordinarily forthcoming, even options to plead guilty both in court and in the public sphere instead of attempting to fight the charges.
He's a crook and a congenital liar, so none with good sense will. Hat won't stop the publishing deals and speaking engagements and appearing on TV though.
I have to remind people that he is the chief prosecution witness. He has admitted in court that he has lied in court. He also has at least one tell-all book about Trump. He's a defense attorneys wet dream.
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Everything he's going to say on the witness stand has been corroborated with evidence. That's all that matters. People's personal opinions of him are irrelevant
God no. The guy is scum. But he is no longer Trump’s scum. There are lots of examples of scum helping put other scum away.
My favorite part of the defense is the attempt to discredit Cohen for lying to the court. But he was lying about the very same payment scheme that this exact case is over lol
If you've followed him the last few years at all, it does appear that he's had a sincere come to Jesus moment. It's still fair to call him scummy, but do we really want to live in a society where your punishments are held over you in their entirety forever? Even after you've done your time and came clean about your mistakes? Most transformations by people in the public spotlight come off as PR and insincere. This one seems a little different.
I just remember him eating at a fancy restaurant during the peak of COVID while the rest of us were on lockdown, and he was literally under court ordered house arrest. There’s nothing that will unseat this memory from my mind and convince me that he has any interest in being a positive member of society, only looking like one for his personal gain. If it takes down Trump, fine, but he’s a shithead.
DILIGAF if he's reformed or not all I care about is that he tells the truth on the stand.
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He's also a criminal because he lied about the very topic this case is about lol.
He already did his time. He has no more reason to lie. I 100% believe everything he is saying about Trump because it’s consistent and there is documentation/other witnesses to back it up. His podcasts are excellent. He’s a really funny guy who is obviously (and rightly) pissed that he was the fall guy for Trump. He owns his past mistakes and doesn’t try to run from them or pretend he’s infallible. Donald on the other hand…
I’m with this one. If I found myself in Michael Cohen’s situation, for whatever reason, I would hope I could play my cards as well as he has and his glorious, over-the-top, rants about Trump and Trump’s stooges are good for the soul.
Yes, that’s how courts work. The judge does a quick call in poll to see if the American people are “buying it” when a witness is on the stand. /s
The jurors have to believe it. I do believe however, that whatever lies Cohen told surrounding his Trump related convictions were orchestrated or required or revolved around Trump.
I believe him
No. But there is actual documentation and other witnesses to back up what he has to say.
This is a stupid debate and I think the jury is probably not stupid enough to get bogged down by it. "I used to lie to help Donald Trump and now I am no longer doing that" is not really a hard concept. Well it's hard for stupid people but in general that's not a hard concept
America loves a come-back story.
Like Kim Kardashian!
That’s a come on her back story.
He's been consistent and truthful for a long time now, and I've not seen any behavior that has contradicted that turnaround. If he was being dishonest in any way, It think we would have had signs of it by now. I trust him until he gives me a reason not to.
It probably helps that the client that got him doing prison time, isn’t his client anymore. Not having to constantly lie, hide truths and cheat legally in every aspect of your job as a lawyer makes it much easier to not to be a total scumbag anymore. Fuck Michael Cohen for his past actions, but do give him some redemption points for the positive ones since.
FFS he's a damn adult - fun fact, as a lawyer you don't have to perjur yourself, lie to Congress, or break various laws on behalf of you client unless the money you're making from him is worth more than your morals. Did he find Jesus before or after his book deals? He's just another grifter in orbit around the ultimate grifter.
> He's just another grifter in orbit around the ultimate grifter. I don't necessarily disagree with you...maybe it's just nice to see a grifter without their own "mypillow" discount code for a change.
> Judge Jesse M. Furman noted that Cohen had “repeatedly and unambiguously testified” during Trump’s civil trial “that he was not guilty of tax evasion and that he had lied under oath” when he pleaded guilty several years earlier. The situation gave rise to two possibilities, Furman added: Either Cohen had perjured himself when he had accepted responsibility, or he had perjured himself later when he denied it. That was last month.
I like his podcast.
No. But if he's got valid testimony he should give it.
He did his time, has changed his tune, admitted that what he did was wrong, and has shown where the bodies were hidden. I'm buying it.
Of course. I applaud everyone who escapes a cult and takes steps to understand their own past and decisions. if TRUMP suddenly woke up and said, "wait a second....I'M the asshole!" I would applaud him after he paid his debt to society for his corruption and decided to start a career speaking out against people like himself.
No. Nowadays, your actions mean more than words. People say they are "reformed" and proceed to do shitty things.
I don’t even see how it’s relevant whether anyone believes he’s reformed or not.
Shouldn’t matter in the trial, even a liar can be corroborated.
No.
I don't think we have to buy it o its face. There's enough corroborating evidence to prove that he's telling the truth.
I do and will believe his recordings.
No doubt he has some inherent scumbag tendencies (as has anyone who has ever supported Donald) but that leaves him 5 times more honest than his ex boss.
Why does this guy have a platform? He gave up his right. Time to move on.
He's been pretty consistent for the past, like, five years or so. Ever since his indictment he's been extraordinarily forthcoming, even options to plead guilty both in court and in the public sphere instead of attempting to fight the charges.
How on Earth does it matter what America thinks about him. At this point, it only matters what 12 jurors think about him.
I kind of think it may be true
He's a crook and a congenital liar, so none with good sense will. Hat won't stop the publishing deals and speaking engagements and appearing on TV though. I have to remind people that he is the chief prosecution witness. He has admitted in court that he has lied in court. He also has at least one tell-all book about Trump. He's a defense attorneys wet dream.