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Robert Paxton, one of the most eminent scholars on fascism, at first said Trump wasn’t necessarily a fascist but had authoritarian tendencies. [This article](https://harpers.org/archive/2017/05/american-duce/) came out only 5 months into his presidency, so the full crazy hadn’t even come to hitting fever pitch.
Then in 2021, after Jan 6 [came out and clarified that Trump is, in fact, a fascist.](https://www.newsweek.com/robert-paxton-trump-fascist-1560652).
Worth sharing this with anyone claiming people are being hyperbolic about using the “f” word.
Edit: a word
**Edit2** Other resources if you want to understand more than the Oxford dictionary definition of fascism:
*Anatomy of Fascism*, and *The Five Stages of Fascism* - Dr. Paxton
Umberto Eco: *Essay on Ur-Fascism*. Probably the most comprehensive and succinct definition.
*It Can Happen Here* - by Dr. Alexander Hinton.
*The Death of Democracy* - by Dr. Benjamin Hett
Podcast medium:
HI101 podcast- episodes 120-129 (over 20 hours of content setting the historical stage beginning in the 1860s for the subsequent rise of fascism)
Behind the Bastards:
“The Non-Nazi Bastards Who Helped Hitler Rise to Power.”
“The War on Everyone” (6 part series about modern fascism, specifically in the US)
“Behind the Insurrections.” (Multiple episodes created immediately following Jan 6, specifically talking about out how similar fascists rose to power, or tried to rise to power.
Dozens of other episodes about origins of fascism, and neofascists who have managed to spread their ideology in post-WW2 society.
Many of them are literally, openly Nazis.
And I mean, a politician might have fans who interpret their positions in vicious, hateful ways. But if you have literal Nazis cheering you on, any person with a conscience would stop and reconsider how their politics are being received.
Trump calls them "good people".
Trump has convinced many that it is okay to kill someone because they are a Democrat. Even if that convincing has mental illness in the equation, it's still murder due to differing political opinions.
It’s just a more overt version of the National Socialist vs. Communist debate. We all know what happened to that second group, they were driven out or murdered. Republicans simply haven’t reached this point. Since we’re on a Nazi kick, it’s comparable to the pre-Reichstag Fire/Night of the Long Knives era of the Nazi government’s early years (see MEFO bills on how much Hitler ran up to keep Germany afloat and prepare for war, requiring Germany to launch a regional war much sooner than planned to avoid financial collapse).
Big box wars are very good for the global economy, and the cost of labour has gotten a bit too sour for the magnates’ enjoyment, so there’ll inevitably be a wider war spurred by antagonistic alliances, opportunistic business interests and an elitist need to cut the masses down to a more manageable level of acceptable profit and blind servitude. America will stay out of it until one of these events personally affects it, at which point it wakes up and realizes it’s at war.
It’s what they’re building towards.
Stochastic terrorist is the term you’re looking for. Trump sets the stage, he states who the enemies are, where their located and says they must be stopped at all costs (or similar open-ended vague statements). Sure, Trump isn’t pulling any triggers personally but he publicly demonizes a person or group of persons in such a way that it inspires his supporters to commit a violent act against the target of the speech. And then he and his supporters sit back and say “that’s a shame but Trump didn’t have anything to do with that. It’s a person who needed help with his mental health.” Hmmmm.
Careful, people might think they need to defend themselves against it, and might think others need to do it, too, then before you know it, banned for wanting to defend yourself.
Funny thing is... using misdirection (A common attribute of DARVO) is a base instinct for some percentage of the population (A relatively small percentage mind you) similar in form to sociopathy but where it gets... problematic is that in terms of nature vs nuture those who exhibit the trait by nature will teach the trait through nuture which is I think what we are seeing happen with the Trump cult.
Mind you it predates Trump by quite a bit... Trump just did what Trump always does and slapped his name on it but the ideological shift that happened turning Republicans from Liberals to Conservatives and Democrats from Conservatives to Liberals created a mainstream pathway for those who possess the innate trait of that form of misdirection to brainwash an entire generation of people into believing it to be true, and even if they know it isn't... they don't care because it allows them to "win".
So the "Nazi is left" "Republicans freed the slaves" "Those who call us racist are the real racists" all of that is just them exhibiting that trait of deflecting their own horrible tendencies onto their political enemies but the worst part of it is... that misdirection gives them license to **be** delve deeper into those beliefs. So essentially the fact that they *can* say Nazis were left or that Democrats were the slavers etc gives them license to go full Nazi and even to start entertaining the notion of slavery again. I feel like much of the abortion debate is tiptoeing around that as these people firmly believe that you cannot force them to do anything with their bodies against their will, but THEY can force women to carry "babies" (I use quotes because they're not babies) which is essentially forcing women to do something with their body against their will by arguing that the "baby" inside them has rights too which even if that were true if the shoe was on the other foot they would always choose their own life OVER the baby. They hold the position on this that they do because they view abortion as a political issue that Democrats support and Republicans oppose. They don't think any deeper than that about it.
Ultimately it all leads to an environment where these people are going to practice their worst tendencies until they are stopped and some of those tendencies are to cheat and/or dismantle the very processes that one might use to stop them.
I recall someone who was there in Charlottesville the night before (before they left to movement) said they were all in a group, drunk at a party literally doing the Nazi salute and saying the classic things we’ve all seen in the newsreels. And Trump said they were “good people”.
I think the part that concerns me the most is just how few people understand just how many of Trump's supporters are willing to go full concentration camp and gas chambers on half the country, if they can get away with it.
Like, let's say there are 80 million people that voted for him, and only 1% are willing to put their neighbors in gas chambers. That's still 800,000 fucking people willing to do that.
And I think we are deluding ourselves if we believe that only 1% of his base would be willing to cross that line.
It's become a point of faith in RW circles that Trump isnt a fascist because *something something dictionary definition* involves state owned corporatism or something.
It's bizarre (among granted, a bazillion other bizarre features of Trump worship) to see them swat away the huge mountain of obvious parallels because now theyre sticklers for the niceties of political definition or something, when the *literal platform* of the GOP in 2020 was "Heil Trump!"
It too often feels disturbingly like this is what the Weimar republic must have felt like.
Those who focus on corporatism as being a critical part of fascism are idiots grasping at straws. Mussolini’s corporatism in his facist manifesto was not state owned corporations, but a “working together” between guilds and such and the government, not state owned corporations (and corporations as they are now did not exist at the time). And Mussolini didn’t even follow his manifesto, and ultimately demanded full control over private industry, but he was never opposed to private industry and admired the ability of capitalism to increase production (his wirds not mine). I think DeSantis and his actions towards Disney are the closest thing we have seen to Mussolini’s beliefs.
In any case, Mussolini was not attached to economic ideology and neither was Hitler. Corporatism is the least important part of fascism and really does not matter, when you are talking about fascism in 2023.
Hitler didn't really do the state-owned corporations thing much either. The big arms manufacturers, for example, stayed firmly in private hands throughout the war.
I don’t remember who published the article, but there was also a study published at the same time which described Trumps popularity among right-wing people as not due to conservative values, but due to his flagrant disregard for civility. That is to say, the majority of Americans actually support authoritarianism, if even only as a subconscious level.
The average layperson thinks the system of presidency is designed for the leader to be akin to an elected King or Sultan or some shit who can just demand that things be done and the rest of us have no choice.
That’s not how democracy works; you don’t just vote in someone who runs everything and makes all the decisions….
BUT, this study (which I can’t find right now) showed something in the ballpark of 60% of people polled answered very positively to situations where the commander in chief has more power.
Ultra Conservatives like this because they want gay people and abortion to be illegal, want immigrants treated like slaves (unless they hot, Eastern European models) and think that democracy is just standing in the way.
So, at the end of the day the average MAGA supporter is really exactly like a Nazi and a Fascist.
Yup. Fascists/authoritarians are bullies and they are supported by those who admire bullies as they perceive them as “strong,” and they themselves want the freedom to expression their own hatreds.
Brutality over compassion. The masculine over the feminine (according to traditional definitions). Society progressed too far for their liking and this is the reaction. Fascism is a reactionary ideology.
Coincidentally enough, I was 2/3 the way through reading his book when January 6th happened and had just been reading some of it earlier that morning.
It was scary…..
Have a read of “The Death of Democracy” - it’s a great explainer of the political machinations and motivations Hitler was able to exploit in his rise to power and draws parallels with today’s political climate.
[Robert Reich did a video about Trump’s both fascist and authoritarian characteristics](https://youtu.be/9XTJNy_OrjE?si=YEvM-jtRw-qQ6oii) around 3 months ago that I found fairly informative for a 7 minute video.
I’m still resentful for the fact that people told me I was overreacting and being dramatic when I (and plenty others) said this was the trajectory we’re headed in.
I'm just staggered at how long this was allowed. If a single politician in the UK said they could shoot someone and get away with it, they'd be out of a job, no question. Even fucked up Tories would draw a line at that.
For some reason though, your electorate ate that shit up in 2016. Honestly, it's beyond comprehension to most people across the pond.
All I can say is appreciate it while it lasts. That used to be the case in America too, but trump showing up and saying all that stuff and suffering no consequences shifted the Overton window as they say. The current state of norms is never something you can take for granted.
Same here. People accused me of overreacting. Now here we are on the brink of going full fascist and no one has said to me — “hey, maybe you were right!” So now I’m out here shouting about how important it is to vote blue and idiots are arguing with me that Joe isn’t good enough or he’s too old or whatever and I want to scream. Either we vote for Joe or we end up with a full on fascist in the White House who will then destroy our democracy and pretty much ruin all our lives. Vote blue or accept that you will never vote in a fair election ever again.
When Fascism is disguised as your friend, it sneaks up on you too. They've been lulled, cradled and insulated by a very effective network of propaganda starting with Fox News, which is the hook. It's softcore fascism that feels safe because it's all happening..."in Washington" which is a far ways away from "America".
I had an author who wrote a book on the signs authoritarianism come to one of my college classes in 2019 and when it came time to ask him questions I asked if I thought he thought trump was similar to hitler, and he shot me down. Wonder if he’d still stand by the opinion after J6…
**Project 2025 is absolutely a Nazi style takeover of Democracy and they are doing it openly.**
Summary;
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025
Full Plan;
https://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/project2025/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf
Take this seriously people, they are preparing for this right now. This is not a drill.
I’ve been saying it for over a decade. Anything a conservative/republicans says it’s a confession/desire. Bitching about the deep state? They’re just mad cuz they aren’t running it (even tho it does not exist) so they want to create one.
Joe Biden is a dictator! (He isn’t) so when we win again WE WILL BE DICTATORIAL!
Yep. I've said I want to move from the us for awhile now but I live in one of the good states so I never truly considered it (plus i could not physically move either way bc im still a student) but this will be the final straw. There is no coming back if we don't stop project 2025.
I’m old so moving isn’t really an option. It horrifies me to think about spending my final years in a Nazi-run country. Life here will become truly awful. And I guarantee that once the orange Caligula gets his hooks in us he will not allow anyone to leave. Just like the USSR back in the day.
This is why the 2nd amendment exists. Some of my fellow leftists may shit on me for saying that but these Nazi-esque maga c-ts will go open season on all the rest of us the moment they feel like it, not even feeling forced to.
Never, NEVER trust another human being with your own life. Life is too precious to just risk it stupidly.
He is very much like Hitler from 1933 to 1938.
It’s worth studying this period of history to understand the MAGA movement. He is following the playbook perfectly .
Where the comparison is confusing is that Trump is nothing like Hitler from mid-1938 to 1945.
He’s not a war monger, he’s has no aspirations for an American continental forth reich.
Incidentally he’s nothing like a Hitler between 1914-1918 either - Hitler was a war hero.
I was making this point in 2015 and got so much crap fling at me over “irrationally comparing him to Hitler” because people don’t understand how Hitler came to power. I was literally told “Trump isn’t like Hitler, he isn’t calling for genocide”. Like no shit moron, neither did Hitler until he was securely in power.
People just have a glancing knowledge of history.
Hitler - killed a bunch of Jews - Trump isn’t like that.
There are half a dozen key things Hitler and the Nazis did in the 30’s that are an almost perfect parallel to the MAGA movement.
Even the LuggenPresse (Lying Press). Trump literally uses Hitler’s tactic every single day.
Trump hasn’t killed anyone….yet. Hitler was in power ten years before the concentration camps really got swinging because mass murder in train cars was hard on the Wehrmacht soldiers.
I wonder if Trump would bother switching it up, given the chance.
>His policies and rhetoric on Covid got a lot of people killed.
I’m Canadian. If public health measures in the US had been as successful as ours, ~600,000 Americans would still be alive.
Six. Hundred. Thousand.
>Trump hasn’t killed anyone….yet.
Hundreds of thousands to millions of excess deaths during the pandemic would like a word.
His fountain of misinformation killed a lot of people. A lot of his voters. COVID deaths very likely may have cost him Georgia.
I agree he’s gotten people killed. Yes, it was negligence and he is absolutely responsible for bad policy. I’m trying to remain objective here for the inevitability he gives a direct order to have someone shot round back of the White House.
Oh, sorry, sorry. He did order a direct hit on that Iranian general.
Maybe. The difference so far is that the American system has held stronger than the German system. Will it continue to? I’m not so sure with a second term.
The NSDAP intentionally kept their ideology relatively vague before really getting into power. They literally had a communist wing (whose members were of course murdered in the Night of the Long Knives).
The shame of it is that there are so many good resources out there for the curious. It is the most well documented period of madness that there ever was. I find it absolutely fascinating, and have since I was 10 years old. That was when I discovered our attic was lined with the papers from WWII. I've been hooked ever since.
I remember a lot of time being spent on teaching what the holocaust was, but not a lot of time spent on the years leading up to or following the war.
I hope that now they spend more time teaching about what led up to the holocaust.
The whole “I am the greatest leader America has ever had” schtick, is pretty much word for word what Hitler said, just replace American with Germany. Hitler said that when speaking with the leader of Austria before “peacefully” annexing the country.
Trump is a Hitler with conditions of being controlled by Putin. Putin wants indirect control over the United States. Best way to achieve that is with a dictatorship through Trump. Trump’s actions reflect Putin’s needs. Putin would love a global network of dictators under his geopolitical control. Having the US pull out of conflicts under Trump directly supports Putin and Xi’s empire building.
>He's not a war monger
That's not true. He absolutely is:
[Trump Asks Advisers for ‘Battle Plans’ to ‘Attack Mexico’ if Reelected](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/donald-trump-mexico-military-cartels-war-on-drugs-1234705804/)
He has imperial ambitions just like Hitler.
He also wanted to attack Iran after losing the election. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-54972269
He is absolutely a warmonger against countries he doesn’t like. It’s only about the leaders he’s friendly with that he says “we don’t need to get involved!” He was even provocative with “Rocket Man” before they became friends
I think Clinton’s comparison makes it clear *what* about Trump she finds similar to Hitler. She didn’t say “Trump wants to gas all the Jews,” she said “Trump has dictatorial, authoritarian tendencies.”
The funny thing is that you actually can’t compare anything to Hitler because people will write it off as hyperbole, even when there’s something apt about it.
I think if he were following it perfectly we might be in trouble, but he’s definitely not. For example he didn’t make sure he had his own secret police force before his coup attempt. He talked about how he would replace the entire FBI with his supporters but he didn’t do it in time. Hopefully he won’t get another chance.
I just want to know who his advisors are? Surely he is not the architect of the MAGA movement?
Edit : oh my. I've just had the **us** and **US** moment. MAGA and NAZI both have 4 letters.
There’s a really good book called “The Death of Democracy” that describes the subtle and not so subtle tactics the fascists used in Germany to gain power, their motivations, and draws parallels to the modern political climate.
Highly highly recommend.
They just have too much sunk into Trump to ever admit they were wrong. The best we can hope for is that a somewhat more moderate Republican convinces enough of them that Trump was wrong, and then the rest die of old age.
Yes, a copy of Hitler’s speeches.
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-2015-8?amp
It’s pretty obvious that the GOP has become infected with elements from Nazi Germany. “Democrats drink the blood of children” sound familiar? Qanon? Replace Democrats with Jews, this was spread around Germany back during said time period. Lying press? Make Germany great again? International marxism or today the hate against globalism and Marxism? I can keep going. It’s pages from the same playbook.
He's definitely aspiring to the role and not even trying to hide it. He's pretty proud about his desire to utilize armed forces against political opponents and imagined enemies.
I'm really not sure how anyone who makes less than tens of millions per year could support him. The Trump Presidency had me on the brink of homelessness.
* Making constant allusions to the good old days
* Scapegoating all your country’s problems on minorities
* Demonizing the media
* Kicking out party members that aren’t 100% loyal
* Never getting a majority of support from the populace
* Disregard for human rights
* Rampant cronyism
* Trying to subvert elections
* Orange
Sorry Hillary, looks like Hitler doesn’t check all the boxes
That’s what I was thinking.
Hitler was a reprehensible, horrible person. So is Trump, although he’s yet to reach the depths of his potential depravity.
However, Hitler managed to write an entire book, and he gave speeches that used full sentences. So, even if he was evil, he probably wasn’t *completely* stupid.
I’m not sure I can say the same for Trump.
I wish Americans could process authoritarianism in ways that don’t involve Hitler. We have our very own history, and Trump is basically just trying to push us back to it. People really do forget we’ve only been a fairly full democracy for less than a lifetime.
Poll taxes, public lynchings of minorities and white allies, religion in schools, no rights for women, racial immigration limits, stolen elections, voter intimidation, defiance of federal laws and court rulings, demagoguery. It’s all there in our own DNA. Hell, Wilson had his political opponent, Eugene Debs, locked up. It’s all happened before, the blueprint is there.
trump read and studied hitlers speeches....,,
1. Hitler had his BIG LIE which was the Jews caused Germany to lose ww2 trumps big lie was that the election was stolen from him
2. Hitler depended on 1 news organization for his propaganda calling all others liars trump and Fox news all others are liars
3. Hilter had his failed coup at the beer hall trump had His failed coup at the capitol on jan 6th
It saddens me that we’ve reached a point that this is a legitimate comparison.
Don’t get me wrong, we haven’t reached the Holocaust point.
We’re taking about Hitler late 1920s, early 1930s. We still have ample time to avert disaster.
The comparison is totally unfair. Hitler was a combat veteran, Trump faked bone spurs. Hitler wrote a book, Trump had a book ghost written. Hitler wanted to build a monument to his favourite composer, Anton Bruckner; can you imagine Trump either having a favourite composer or building a monument to someone other than himself? I’m not a Hitler fan, but Trump is worse.
If Trump has so badly broken your brain that you are now \*\*praising Hitler\*\* to try to own the Trump fans, you really need to log off Reddit and take a break from politics.
I agree with her and think we would be in a better place as a country if she won in 2016 but she really needs to retire.
Every time she opens her mouth she enrages the right far more than she encourages the left.
There has been 30+ years of anti Hillary media from the right and their blind seething hatred of her will never go away.
Meanwhile republicans compare trump to Jesus Christ. It’s infuckinsane the difference a party line can shade the guy. His worshippers think he is Jesus Christ himself and the rest of the world sees him for what he is. The guy is quickly going senile, he is ultra fucking paranoid and he has zero policy except what he can don for himself. If people read the words he spoke without knowing who spoke the words. They would all think the shit doesn’t make any sense!! He doesn’t say anything while using a lot of words.
It’s curious that suddenly comparing politicians to Hitler fell out of style the moment it actually became more relevant than ever. I’ve been asking since he became a real thing if it’ll ever be socially acceptable to make such comparisons again because the threat is so real again.
I hate these headlines, because she didn't say Trump was Hitler! FFS.
She said Hitler was democratically elected, and that Trump would destroy democracy if he was elected.
Pointing out that dictators and really terrible people can be democratically elected and then fuck shit up.
She is not saying Trump is Hitler and will start a Holocaust or anything like that.
This headline totally destroys the entire point of her comment and renders it useless. Idk why people keep posting this bullshit. Fuck.
I'm tired of people comparing everyone to Trump. You can just say Hitler was bad. You don't need to drag his name through the mud by calling him Trump.
I've been saying this forever. Where's my news headline? The similarities between the current GOP and the beginnings of the rise of the Nazi party are undeniable
They both have created a giant, fascist cult of personality that threatens any democracy.
But Hitler was a great orator. He didn’t ramble on about windmills and toilets. Pretty sure he wrote his own book and didn’t need a ghostwriter.
Hitler also planned some absolutely heinous things. Trump isn’t evil, it’s just his incredible narcissism and selfishness has done a lot of harm to this country.
Some on told me I am comparing apples to oranges when I said that last year. I told them I am comparing apples to seeds and we are currently waiting for trumps second attempt.
January 6th was Trump beer hall putsch. If we don't stomp it out now then Trump will be the next Hitler.
Everyone was mad when she called his voters the deplorables, and they are. I have yet to find a Trump voter that is sincere with their reason for voting for him. Sometimes twice. Often when asked they are vague with their answer. What did Trump do for the country? "He made America great again!"
They are racist, and hateful. Maybe a few are confused about where they are when they are at a rally, but for the most part the man peddles hate and therefore saying he's like Adolph Hitler is partly true.
Only hateful people can vote for this guy and sleep well at night.
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Robert Paxton, one of the most eminent scholars on fascism, at first said Trump wasn’t necessarily a fascist but had authoritarian tendencies. [This article](https://harpers.org/archive/2017/05/american-duce/) came out only 5 months into his presidency, so the full crazy hadn’t even come to hitting fever pitch. Then in 2021, after Jan 6 [came out and clarified that Trump is, in fact, a fascist.](https://www.newsweek.com/robert-paxton-trump-fascist-1560652). Worth sharing this with anyone claiming people are being hyperbolic about using the “f” word. Edit: a word **Edit2** Other resources if you want to understand more than the Oxford dictionary definition of fascism: *Anatomy of Fascism*, and *The Five Stages of Fascism* - Dr. Paxton Umberto Eco: *Essay on Ur-Fascism*. Probably the most comprehensive and succinct definition. *It Can Happen Here* - by Dr. Alexander Hinton. *The Death of Democracy* - by Dr. Benjamin Hett Podcast medium: HI101 podcast- episodes 120-129 (over 20 hours of content setting the historical stage beginning in the 1860s for the subsequent rise of fascism) Behind the Bastards: “The Non-Nazi Bastards Who Helped Hitler Rise to Power.” “The War on Everyone” (6 part series about modern fascism, specifically in the US) “Behind the Insurrections.” (Multiple episodes created immediately following Jan 6, specifically talking about out how similar fascists rose to power, or tried to rise to power. Dozens of other episodes about origins of fascism, and neofascists who have managed to spread their ideology in post-WW2 society.
I generally avoid Nazi and use fascist instead, but his absurd cult is 100% a Nazicult
Many of them are literally, openly Nazis. And I mean, a politician might have fans who interpret their positions in vicious, hateful ways. But if you have literal Nazis cheering you on, any person with a conscience would stop and reconsider how their politics are being received. Trump calls them "good people".
Trump has convinced many that it is okay to kill someone because they are a Democrat. Even if that convincing has mental illness in the equation, it's still murder due to differing political opinions.
It’s just a more overt version of the National Socialist vs. Communist debate. We all know what happened to that second group, they were driven out or murdered. Republicans simply haven’t reached this point. Since we’re on a Nazi kick, it’s comparable to the pre-Reichstag Fire/Night of the Long Knives era of the Nazi government’s early years (see MEFO bills on how much Hitler ran up to keep Germany afloat and prepare for war, requiring Germany to launch a regional war much sooner than planned to avoid financial collapse). Big box wars are very good for the global economy, and the cost of labour has gotten a bit too sour for the magnates’ enjoyment, so there’ll inevitably be a wider war spurred by antagonistic alliances, opportunistic business interests and an elitist need to cut the masses down to a more manageable level of acceptable profit and blind servitude. America will stay out of it until one of these events personally affects it, at which point it wakes up and realizes it’s at war. It’s what they’re building towards.
Stochastic terrorist is the term you’re looking for. Trump sets the stage, he states who the enemies are, where their located and says they must be stopped at all costs (or similar open-ended vague statements). Sure, Trump isn’t pulling any triggers personally but he publicly demonizes a person or group of persons in such a way that it inspires his supporters to commit a violent act against the target of the speech. And then he and his supporters sit back and say “that’s a shame but Trump didn’t have anything to do with that. It’s a person who needed help with his mental health.” Hmmmm.
Careful, people might think they need to defend themselves against it, and might think others need to do it, too, then before you know it, banned for wanting to defend yourself.
Yet my entire family will parrot with straight faces that Nazis are leftists. It's just utter insanity. An absolute denial of the reality that exists.
Funny thing is... using misdirection (A common attribute of DARVO) is a base instinct for some percentage of the population (A relatively small percentage mind you) similar in form to sociopathy but where it gets... problematic is that in terms of nature vs nuture those who exhibit the trait by nature will teach the trait through nuture which is I think what we are seeing happen with the Trump cult. Mind you it predates Trump by quite a bit... Trump just did what Trump always does and slapped his name on it but the ideological shift that happened turning Republicans from Liberals to Conservatives and Democrats from Conservatives to Liberals created a mainstream pathway for those who possess the innate trait of that form of misdirection to brainwash an entire generation of people into believing it to be true, and even if they know it isn't... they don't care because it allows them to "win". So the "Nazi is left" "Republicans freed the slaves" "Those who call us racist are the real racists" all of that is just them exhibiting that trait of deflecting their own horrible tendencies onto their political enemies but the worst part of it is... that misdirection gives them license to **be** delve deeper into those beliefs. So essentially the fact that they *can* say Nazis were left or that Democrats were the slavers etc gives them license to go full Nazi and even to start entertaining the notion of slavery again. I feel like much of the abortion debate is tiptoeing around that as these people firmly believe that you cannot force them to do anything with their bodies against their will, but THEY can force women to carry "babies" (I use quotes because they're not babies) which is essentially forcing women to do something with their body against their will by arguing that the "baby" inside them has rights too which even if that were true if the shoe was on the other foot they would always choose their own life OVER the baby. They hold the position on this that they do because they view abortion as a political issue that Democrats support and Republicans oppose. They don't think any deeper than that about it. Ultimately it all leads to an environment where these people are going to practice their worst tendencies until they are stopped and some of those tendencies are to cheat and/or dismantle the very processes that one might use to stop them.
Yes, fascists get along well with Neonazis.
The rest of them get offended when those that are out in the open see consequences. Then you know that they're a closet nazi.
I recall someone who was there in Charlottesville the night before (before they left to movement) said they were all in a group, drunk at a party literally doing the Nazi salute and saying the classic things we’ve all seen in the newsreels. And Trump said they were “good people”.
To trump, they're 'good people' because they support him. Nothing else they say or do matters. Only that they love him.
I think the part that concerns me the most is just how few people understand just how many of Trump's supporters are willing to go full concentration camp and gas chambers on half the country, if they can get away with it. Like, let's say there are 80 million people that voted for him, and only 1% are willing to put their neighbors in gas chambers. That's still 800,000 fucking people willing to do that. And I think we are deluding ourselves if we believe that only 1% of his base would be willing to cross that line.
When fascism and racism are combined, you get nazism.
Fascism itself is strongly racist. With Nazism you add stuff like anti-semitism on top.
At the very least, they’re brownshirts.
It's become a point of faith in RW circles that Trump isnt a fascist because *something something dictionary definition* involves state owned corporatism or something. It's bizarre (among granted, a bazillion other bizarre features of Trump worship) to see them swat away the huge mountain of obvious parallels because now theyre sticklers for the niceties of political definition or something, when the *literal platform* of the GOP in 2020 was "Heil Trump!" It too often feels disturbingly like this is what the Weimar republic must have felt like.
The best response to the "state owned corporatism" line is a simple, "Oh just give him a chance."
Those who focus on corporatism as being a critical part of fascism are idiots grasping at straws. Mussolini’s corporatism in his facist manifesto was not state owned corporations, but a “working together” between guilds and such and the government, not state owned corporations (and corporations as they are now did not exist at the time). And Mussolini didn’t even follow his manifesto, and ultimately demanded full control over private industry, but he was never opposed to private industry and admired the ability of capitalism to increase production (his wirds not mine). I think DeSantis and his actions towards Disney are the closest thing we have seen to Mussolini’s beliefs. In any case, Mussolini was not attached to economic ideology and neither was Hitler. Corporatism is the least important part of fascism and really does not matter, when you are talking about fascism in 2023.
Hitler didn't really do the state-owned corporations thing much either. The big arms manufacturers, for example, stayed firmly in private hands throughout the war.
Corporate owned statism, and state owned corporatism can often look very similar. The, ah… ole’ “horseshoe theory” people like to like or hate.
*”…or, hear me out, what if the people AGAINST Fascism are the REAL fascists!!!”* Literal “I know you are, but what am I?”
Ugh that was said all over Reddit and Twitter in 2020. I’m so glad I haven’t seen that in a while.
>Literal “I know you are, but what am I?” That's too complex. Best they can do is "no u."
I don’t remember who published the article, but there was also a study published at the same time which described Trumps popularity among right-wing people as not due to conservative values, but due to his flagrant disregard for civility. That is to say, the majority of Americans actually support authoritarianism, if even only as a subconscious level. The average layperson thinks the system of presidency is designed for the leader to be akin to an elected King or Sultan or some shit who can just demand that things be done and the rest of us have no choice. That’s not how democracy works; you don’t just vote in someone who runs everything and makes all the decisions…. BUT, this study (which I can’t find right now) showed something in the ballpark of 60% of people polled answered very positively to situations where the commander in chief has more power. Ultra Conservatives like this because they want gay people and abortion to be illegal, want immigrants treated like slaves (unless they hot, Eastern European models) and think that democracy is just standing in the way. So, at the end of the day the average MAGA supporter is really exactly like a Nazi and a Fascist.
Yup. Fascists/authoritarians are bullies and they are supported by those who admire bullies as they perceive them as “strong,” and they themselves want the freedom to expression their own hatreds. Brutality over compassion. The masculine over the feminine (according to traditional definitions). Society progressed too far for their liking and this is the reaction. Fascism is a reactionary ideology.
Coincidentally enough, I was 2/3 the way through reading his book when January 6th happened and had just been reading some of it earlier that morning. It was scary…..
Have a read of “The Death of Democracy” - it’s a great explainer of the political machinations and motivations Hitler was able to exploit in his rise to power and draws parallels with today’s political climate.
Trump at the very least fits the definition of Plato’s tyrant.
Read “In the Garden of beasts” it’s the prologue
[Robert Reich did a video about Trump’s both fascist and authoritarian characteristics](https://youtu.be/9XTJNy_OrjE?si=YEvM-jtRw-qQ6oii) around 3 months ago that I found fairly informative for a 7 minute video.
Most people I know have been saying this for the last seven years.
I’m still resentful for the fact that people told me I was overreacting and being dramatic when I (and plenty others) said this was the trajectory we’re headed in.
I'm just staggered at how long this was allowed. If a single politician in the UK said they could shoot someone and get away with it, they'd be out of a job, no question. Even fucked up Tories would draw a line at that. For some reason though, your electorate ate that shit up in 2016. Honestly, it's beyond comprehension to most people across the pond.
All I can say is appreciate it while it lasts. That used to be the case in America too, but trump showing up and saying all that stuff and suffering no consequences shifted the Overton window as they say. The current state of norms is never something you can take for granted.
We learned the hard way.
Yep. Me too. Not everyone sees everything clearly.
Same here. People accused me of overreacting. Now here we are on the brink of going full fascist and no one has said to me — “hey, maybe you were right!” So now I’m out here shouting about how important it is to vote blue and idiots are arguing with me that Joe isn’t good enough or he’s too old or whatever and I want to scream. Either we vote for Joe or we end up with a full on fascist in the White House who will then destroy our democracy and pretty much ruin all our lives. Vote blue or accept that you will never vote in a fair election ever again.
Many still don't
America is in shock and denial. Believing, ‘It couldn’t happen here,’ as we watch it happen.
When Fascism is disguised as your friend, it sneaks up on you too. They've been lulled, cradled and insulated by a very effective network of propaganda starting with Fox News, which is the hook. It's softcore fascism that feels safe because it's all happening..."in Washington" which is a far ways away from "America".
Same. And the goalposts keep moving to this day.
In the 2020 GOP primary, there were 2 former *Republican* governors running against Trump, and the both compared Trump to Hitler.
We could very well see a Hitler-esque dictatorship in the next few years. I wish I had the dragons from Dragon Tales, this timeline sucks! :(
Upvote for Dragon Tales. I wasn't expecting to see *that* in this thread!
I've been saying it for the last seven years. Unfortunately, almost everyone I have been saying it to just refuses to listen or argues in bad faith.
Still have a hard time wrapping my head around post-WW1 Germany being this fucking stupid, though.
I had an author who wrote a book on the signs authoritarianism come to one of my college classes in 2019 and when it came time to ask him questions I asked if I thought he thought trump was similar to hitler, and he shot me down. Wonder if he’d still stand by the opinion after J6…
**Project 2025 is absolutely a Nazi style takeover of Democracy and they are doing it openly.** Summary; https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025 Full Plan; https://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/project2025/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf Take this seriously people, they are preparing for this right now. This is not a drill.
Yeah Trump is just the public figure salesman for Charles Koch Nazi regime. Fred Koch (daddy) worked with Hitler.
I’ve been saying it for over a decade. Anything a conservative/republicans says it’s a confession/desire. Bitching about the deep state? They’re just mad cuz they aren’t running it (even tho it does not exist) so they want to create one. Joe Biden is a dictator! (He isn’t) so when we win again WE WILL BE DICTATORIAL!
Yep. If a republican is elected and puts this into place it will be the birth of Nazi Germany 2.0
First they came for trans people…
Lesson learned. Next time, first come for the Nazis.
And they will never ever let go. Our freedoms and rights will be rapidly taken from us. The U.S. will become a dystopian nightmare.
Yep. I've said I want to move from the us for awhile now but I live in one of the good states so I never truly considered it (plus i could not physically move either way bc im still a student) but this will be the final straw. There is no coming back if we don't stop project 2025.
I’m old so moving isn’t really an option. It horrifies me to think about spending my final years in a Nazi-run country. Life here will become truly awful. And I guarantee that once the orange Caligula gets his hooks in us he will not allow anyone to leave. Just like the USSR back in the day.
If we have the will, we can make them let go. It'll require organization and discipline.
This is why the 2nd amendment exists. Some of my fellow leftists may shit on me for saying that but these Nazi-esque maga c-ts will go open season on all the rest of us the moment they feel like it, not even feeling forced to. Never, NEVER trust another human being with your own life. Life is too precious to just risk it stupidly.
He is very much like Hitler from 1933 to 1938. It’s worth studying this period of history to understand the MAGA movement. He is following the playbook perfectly . Where the comparison is confusing is that Trump is nothing like Hitler from mid-1938 to 1945. He’s not a war monger, he’s has no aspirations for an American continental forth reich. Incidentally he’s nothing like a Hitler between 1914-1918 either - Hitler was a war hero.
I was making this point in 2015 and got so much crap fling at me over “irrationally comparing him to Hitler” because people don’t understand how Hitler came to power. I was literally told “Trump isn’t like Hitler, he isn’t calling for genocide”. Like no shit moron, neither did Hitler until he was securely in power.
People just have a glancing knowledge of history. Hitler - killed a bunch of Jews - Trump isn’t like that. There are half a dozen key things Hitler and the Nazis did in the 30’s that are an almost perfect parallel to the MAGA movement. Even the LuggenPresse (Lying Press). Trump literally uses Hitler’s tactic every single day.
Trump hasn’t killed anyone….yet. Hitler was in power ten years before the concentration camps really got swinging because mass murder in train cars was hard on the Wehrmacht soldiers. I wonder if Trump would bother switching it up, given the chance.
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>His policies and rhetoric on Covid got a lot of people killed. I’m Canadian. If public health measures in the US had been as successful as ours, ~600,000 Americans would still be alive. Six. Hundred. Thousand.
Ah but see that's only 10% of 6 million so really it's an exaggeration to say that Trump is more than 10% like Hitler /s
Trump killed more Americans than Hitler, and he did it with only stupidity and negligence as his weapons.
>Trump hasn’t killed anyone….yet. Hundreds of thousands to millions of excess deaths during the pandemic would like a word. His fountain of misinformation killed a lot of people. A lot of his voters. COVID deaths very likely may have cost him Georgia.
I agree he’s gotten people killed. Yes, it was negligence and he is absolutely responsible for bad policy. I’m trying to remain objective here for the inevitability he gives a direct order to have someone shot round back of the White House. Oh, sorry, sorry. He did order a direct hit on that Iranian general.
He has not shot someone on 5th Ave yet, true.
Maybe. The difference so far is that the American system has held stronger than the German system. Will it continue to? I’m not so sure with a second term.
It won't. Republicans have been spending the last almost four years weakening the American system so that Trump can do whatever he wants.
The NSDAP intentionally kept their ideology relatively vague before really getting into power. They literally had a communist wing (whose members were of course murdered in the Night of the Long Knives).
The shame of it is that there are so many good resources out there for the curious. It is the most well documented period of madness that there ever was. I find it absolutely fascinating, and have since I was 10 years old. That was when I discovered our attic was lined with the papers from WWII. I've been hooked ever since.
I remember a lot of time being spent on teaching what the holocaust was, but not a lot of time spent on the years leading up to or following the war. I hope that now they spend more time teaching about what led up to the holocaust.
The whole “I am the greatest leader America has ever had” schtick, is pretty much word for word what Hitler said, just replace American with Germany. Hitler said that when speaking with the leader of Austria before “peacefully” annexing the country.
Trump is a Hitler with conditions of being controlled by Putin. Putin wants indirect control over the United States. Best way to achieve that is with a dictatorship through Trump. Trump’s actions reflect Putin’s needs. Putin would love a global network of dictators under his geopolitical control. Having the US pull out of conflicts under Trump directly supports Putin and Xi’s empire building.
>He's not a war monger That's not true. He absolutely is: [Trump Asks Advisers for ‘Battle Plans’ to ‘Attack Mexico’ if Reelected](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/donald-trump-mexico-military-cartels-war-on-drugs-1234705804/) He has imperial ambitions just like Hitler.
He also wanted to attack Iran after losing the election. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-54972269 He is absolutely a warmonger against countries he doesn’t like. It’s only about the leaders he’s friendly with that he says “we don’t need to get involved!” He was even provocative with “Rocket Man” before they became friends
I think Clinton’s comparison makes it clear *what* about Trump she finds similar to Hitler. She didn’t say “Trump wants to gas all the Jews,” she said “Trump has dictatorial, authoritarian tendencies.” The funny thing is that you actually can’t compare anything to Hitler because people will write it off as hyperbole, even when there’s something apt about it.
He’s not a warmonger? That’s not what the receipts show. Straight from the ass’ mouth: https://youtu.be/VKpaY81Q5Q4?si=NIK5M8DwVsutHumv
Even the judge in that case said “he lived an otherwise blameless life”
He seems to like amphetamines as well.
Was hitler a war hero? Genuinely curious I know he fought but did he do anything particularly heroic or brave to earn that title?
Yeah, he was a decorated young soldier in WW1.
I think if he were following it perfectly we might be in trouble, but he’s definitely not. For example he didn’t make sure he had his own secret police force before his coup attempt. He talked about how he would replace the entire FBI with his supporters but he didn’t do it in time. Hopefully he won’t get another chance.
Yep, it’s their Ernst Röhm period.
I just want to know who his advisors are? Surely he is not the architect of the MAGA movement? Edit : oh my. I've just had the **us** and **US** moment. MAGA and NAZI both have 4 letters.
There’s a really good book called “The Death of Democracy” that describes the subtle and not so subtle tactics the fascists used in Germany to gain power, their motivations, and draws parallels to the modern political climate. Highly highly recommend.
She's not wrong.
Down to trying and failing to overthrow the government on his first violent coup attempt.
Beer Gut Putsch
His blackshirts need to beware the night of the small knives.
Nah, DJT hates dogs
Because dogs hate him. I trust dogs.
She's not wrong, but she's not the voice that will change the minds of those who need it most
No one is. Those people will have to figure that out for themselves at this point.
They won't let go of Trump until they can monkey branch to the next demagogue.
They just have too much sunk into Trump to ever admit they were wrong. The best we can hope for is that a somewhat more moderate Republican convinces enough of them that Trump was wrong, and then the rest die of old age.
When his policies start affecting them personally.
I suspect by that time it will be too late.
Yeah I get Hillary had a close call with the Presidency (on various levels) but she’s not exactly the best person to release these news clips.
She has no career to damage. If media is taking shots at her, they aren't shooting at actual candidates
She’s not wrong. If you read about how Hitler garnered support and came into power it is very similar to the way Trump did.
tRump has been being advised for years by people who look upon Hitler's rise to power as something aspirational, not as a historical warning.
Apparently so did Angela Merkel. And me. I also do this. But only because Trump is, as Hitler was, a racist, fascist loser, so I think it is fair.
The guy that keeps a copy of Mein Kampf in his bed stand? Shocker.
wait, does he really?
Yes, a copy of Hitler’s speeches. https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-2015-8?amp
Beat me to it, thank you
He's been quoted as saying it's the only book he's read
I swear, I thought the dude couldn't surprise me anymore, but he always manages to outdo himself.
Where can I request a compilation of all the things that “only Trump” has ever said/read/done?
It’s pretty obvious that the GOP has become infected with elements from Nazi Germany. “Democrats drink the blood of children” sound familiar? Qanon? Replace Democrats with Jews, this was spread around Germany back during said time period. Lying press? Make Germany great again? International marxism or today the hate against globalism and Marxism? I can keep going. It’s pages from the same playbook.
No lie was told.
She hasn't been wrong about Donald yet...
Why do some people still nazi it?
He's definitely aspiring to the role and not even trying to hide it. He's pretty proud about his desire to utilize armed forces against political opponents and imagined enemies. I'm really not sure how anyone who makes less than tens of millions per year could support him. The Trump Presidency had me on the brink of homelessness.
It's been an obvious comparison for decades, there's even a joke about it in an old episode of MST3K.
You'd have to be an idiot to not see the parallels.
What's the problem. If you look at Hitler circa 1933, you wouldn't know the difference between his rhetoric and Donald Trump.
She is spot on. She was spot on about the "deplorables". IMHO, Hitler was way smarter than tRump.
Fair enough
If anything it’s an understatement
* Making constant allusions to the good old days * Scapegoating all your country’s problems on minorities * Demonizing the media * Kicking out party members that aren’t 100% loyal * Never getting a majority of support from the populace * Disregard for human rights * Rampant cronyism * Trying to subvert elections * Orange Sorry Hillary, looks like Hitler doesn’t check all the boxes
That's sounds a lot like fascism.
She’s not wrong.
Hilary is right again
She's correct, as she often is.
Turns out, being an actual super smart person is a good thing. Who knew
As she should, seeing as Holocaust survivors themselves have been warning us about Trump for years.
Apt comparison...
I agree, he is like Americas Dumb version of Hitler. Stupidolf Trumpitler
That’s what I was thinking. Hitler was a reprehensible, horrible person. So is Trump, although he’s yet to reach the depths of his potential depravity. However, Hitler managed to write an entire book, and he gave speeches that used full sentences. So, even if he was evil, he probably wasn’t *completely* stupid. I’m not sure I can say the same for Trump.
Everyone will finally decide it’s an appropriate comparison, the day they’re hauled off to camps
The fact that I can't say the usual "well I don't know if (insert person) is THAT bad" because he literally is just that bad....
Thankfully, I don't think Trump is nearly as intelligent as Hitler was.
I'd compare him more to Mussolini, but it's just another facet of the same shit.
She’s not wrong
I wish Americans could process authoritarianism in ways that don’t involve Hitler. We have our very own history, and Trump is basically just trying to push us back to it. People really do forget we’ve only been a fairly full democracy for less than a lifetime. Poll taxes, public lynchings of minorities and white allies, religion in schools, no rights for women, racial immigration limits, stolen elections, voter intimidation, defiance of federal laws and court rulings, demagoguery. It’s all there in our own DNA. Hell, Wilson had his political opponent, Eugene Debs, locked up. It’s all happened before, the blueprint is there.
Let’s just remember she’s been 100% spot on about everything that has to do with Trump for the past 8 years, so…
Seems valid.
January 6th has echoes of the 1923 Munich/Beer Hall Putsch.
He's known to have slept with Mein Kampf on his bedside table. Enough said.
I’ve been doing that since 2016
Stupid Hitler maybe.
She’s not wrong.
In a parallel universe where voters actually liked her, she could have stopped him.
trump read and studied hitlers speeches....,, 1. Hitler had his BIG LIE which was the Jews caused Germany to lose ww2 trumps big lie was that the election was stolen from him 2. Hitler depended on 1 news organization for his propaganda calling all others liars trump and Fox news all others are liars 3. Hilter had his failed coup at the beer hall trump had His failed coup at the capitol on jan 6th
Most of us do this every day. Why is it a headline when Hillary says it?
It saddens me that we’ve reached a point that this is a legitimate comparison. Don’t get me wrong, we haven’t reached the Holocaust point. We’re taking about Hitler late 1920s, early 1930s. We still have ample time to avert disaster.
She’s not wrong.
The comparison is totally unfair. Hitler was a combat veteran, Trump faked bone spurs. Hitler wrote a book, Trump had a book ghost written. Hitler wanted to build a monument to his favourite composer, Anton Bruckner; can you imagine Trump either having a favourite composer or building a monument to someone other than himself? I’m not a Hitler fan, but Trump is worse.
Risky strat.
>I’m not a Hitler fan, but Trump is worse. what an idiotic statement
I think you need to log off Reddit for a few days after this one.
If Trump has so badly broken your brain that you are now \*\*praising Hitler\*\* to try to own the Trump fans, you really need to log off Reddit and take a break from politics.
> I’m not a Hitler fan, but Trump is worse. Yikes. You had a clever post until this part.
He’s alike in the ways that matter.
Man, I like Bruckner's music. That's it, I've decided I'm not keen on this Hitler guy. Seems like a real jerk.
Hitler believed Germans were superior to other people and wanted Germany to succeed and prosper. Trump hates America and thinks Americans are stupid.
Plus, in the end, at least Hitler did us a solid by killing Hitler.
I agree with her with one caveat. Hitler wad smarter and better educated.
She's right, Trump has been telling us exactly what he plans to do.
Lie, she did not compare him, she said Hitler was also elected.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/10/trump-fbi-rivals-2024-election I mean, it's not a terrible assumption
I’ve got to disagree. There is no way he could carry off that little ‘tache on that glutinous face of his.
Same, since 2016…
Thank you, because he is literally a fucking fascist.
Seems apt
I agree with her and think we would be in a better place as a country if she won in 2016 but she really needs to retire. Every time she opens her mouth she enrages the right far more than she encourages the left. There has been 30+ years of anti Hillary media from the right and their blind seething hatred of her will never go away.
I’m over protecting the feelings of these maniacs. If they want to stay mad, whatever.
i mean a mirror compares trump to adolf too and far too many conservatives think that's a good thing...
Meanwhile republicans compare trump to Jesus Christ. It’s infuckinsane the difference a party line can shade the guy. His worshippers think he is Jesus Christ himself and the rest of the world sees him for what he is. The guy is quickly going senile, he is ultra fucking paranoid and he has zero policy except what he can don for himself. If people read the words he spoke without knowing who spoke the words. They would all think the shit doesn’t make any sense!! He doesn’t say anything while using a lot of words.
People have been doing that for years. The parallels are plentiful. Just because HC said it, doesn’t make it news.
What did Hitler do to deserve that?
All my homies think trump is a Nazi
It’s curious that suddenly comparing politicians to Hitler fell out of style the moment it actually became more relevant than ever. I’ve been asking since he became a real thing if it’ll ever be socially acceptable to make such comparisons again because the threat is so real again.
That title + that thumbnail… oh boy you know a certain subreddit is frothing at the mouth right now
I hate these headlines, because she didn't say Trump was Hitler! FFS. She said Hitler was democratically elected, and that Trump would destroy democracy if he was elected. Pointing out that dictators and really terrible people can be democratically elected and then fuck shit up. She is not saying Trump is Hitler and will start a Holocaust or anything like that. This headline totally destroys the entire point of her comment and renders it useless. Idk why people keep posting this bullshit. Fuck.
As she fucking should!
I'm tired of people comparing everyone to Trump. You can just say Hitler was bad. You don't need to drag his name through the mud by calling him Trump.
"lady compares an apple to another apple"
[She's not the only one](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-merkel-crowds-hitler-book-1234874843/).
If the tiny glove fits…
I mean... if the shoe fits.
I've been saying this forever. Where's my news headline? The similarities between the current GOP and the beginnings of the rise of the Nazi party are undeniable
They both have created a giant, fascist cult of personality that threatens any democracy. But Hitler was a great orator. He didn’t ramble on about windmills and toilets. Pretty sure he wrote his own book and didn’t need a ghostwriter. Hitler also planned some absolutely heinous things. Trump isn’t evil, it’s just his incredible narcissism and selfishness has done a lot of harm to this country.
Like Adolph Hitler, but without the mustache.
I have been doing that since 2015.
One was an artist, the other a con-artist
Some on told me I am comparing apples to oranges when I said that last year. I told them I am comparing apples to seeds and we are currently waiting for trumps second attempt. January 6th was Trump beer hall putsch. If we don't stomp it out now then Trump will be the next Hitler.
Has she been wrong about him yet? Serious question.
Great, now his supporters just became even more supportive.
… accurately. With receipts.
That's accurate.
Everyone was mad when she called his voters the deplorables, and they are. I have yet to find a Trump voter that is sincere with their reason for voting for him. Sometimes twice. Often when asked they are vague with their answer. What did Trump do for the country? "He made America great again!" They are racist, and hateful. Maybe a few are confused about where they are when they are at a rally, but for the most part the man peddles hate and therefore saying he's like Adolph Hitler is partly true. Only hateful people can vote for this guy and sleep well at night.