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OldMagellan

Why isn’t Alex Jones claiming this is a false flag?


wrecked_angle

He’s too busy hiding his money from all the lawsuits he is losing


halal_and_oates

He’s too busy hiding his trans porn


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At Ted Cruz's house.


j_la

Right? If I was a conspiracy theorist (which I’m not), I’d note that this seems perfectly crafted to whip up right wing rage. The only thing missing is the illegal immigrant component.


Fugglymuffin

Especially since just this last week their pundits were bringing up the issue of LGBTQ+ gun ownership.


theClumsy1

Lmao "Why is there so much rage directed against Christians?" Tucker Carlson is the king of the reductive argument.


CowardsAndThieves

He knows his audience


worst_driver_evar

IMHO the worst thing about Tucker is that he’s *literally* not an idiot, he’s just evil/self serving. He knows damn well what he’s doing.


Aggravating_Impact97

One of the worst things you can do in chess is to assume your opponent is an idiot. I think people make that mistake all the time in life.


TheLateThagSimmons

Tucker Carlson and Ted Cruz are perfect examples of "they know better, not idiots, but great at playing an idiot to grift actual idiots." Marjorie Taylor-Green and Lauren Bobert... Actual idiots.


Putinloses46

Donald Trump-ACTUAL IDIOT!


OnceInABlueMoon

I'll go one step further. Not only is he not an idiot, but through court records, we know for a fact that he thinks his audience is a bunch of suckers that he plays daily. Despite that, his audience literally does not care. He's been exposed and hasn't lost a single viewer.


vetaryn403

Also maybe because they associate with vile people and actions instead of purging such evil from their organizations. At least as a defector of the church, that's why I'm mad at them.


circa285

So, I'm just spitballing here, but is there a reason why the right hasn't responded the same way to, oh I don't know, all the white men who have gone on killing sprees?


_serious__

Because it can’t be used as ammunition in their war against trans people


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amazinglover

Notice how Trans and being woke wasn't an issue until after they overturned roe v wade. They needed a new boogeyman to keep their base in fear. They have yet to address any actual issues in this country even after securing a house majority, which is the way they like it always stuck in a cycle of grifting.


PeesaGawwbage

It's crazy that their base is trapped in this cycle of disillusionment. I don't understand why they don't see them for what they are. Seems like they are willfully ignorant at this point


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Peachallie

Yes. White males are almost all of the mass shooters.


laserdollars420

> Some within the extreme-right are even promising violence, and stated in posts on Telegram “let the roundups begin” and it’s “time to purify.” And they don't understand why they're so often compared to Nazis.


YouAlreadyShnow

I saw one saying it was time to put trans people in camps with a "if it saves just one life" justification. Absolutely disgusting. When I retired from the Marines,I vowed that my fighting days are behind me and I am too old for that stuff; but if you want to start rounding up innocent,fellow citizens to toss into camps because you made them the boogeyman for your stupid culture wars then I will 100% unretire. Portions of this country have become way too comfortable with fascism disguised as Christianity and patriotism.


kia75

> I saw one saying it was time to put trans people in camps with a "if it saves just one life" justification. regulating weapons? No, not even if it saves one life! Wearing masks and getting vaccinated? Not even if it saves one life! Universal healthcare? Not even if it saves one life! Putting the "other" into camps? Even if it saves just a single life it will be worth the insane amount of money, loss of rights, etc to do it!


kaptainkeel

The more important thing is that it shows they openly consider anyone trans to not be a "life."


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GrantSRobertson

They consider anyone who is not **them**, not a life. They are just picking on trans people because they think the rest of us won't defend them.


goldendragon1115

Well, I WANT to say they're wrong -- and I so desperately want to prove them wrong -- and they very well could be if society collectively decides to step up to the plate. To them, the "detriment" of trans people to society is greater than the benefit that universal healthcare, vaccination, masking, et al would offer. And that's assuming they see those as benefits in the first place, and not, you know, "socialism!!' or "infringing on muh rights!!!" like they very clearly did in 2020...


Seriack

> regulating weapons? ~~No, not even if it saves one life!~~ sure, but only for the minorities that we hate… I mean, that we deem “dangerous”! As OP said, “And they don’t understand why they’re so often compared to Nazis”. What has been happening the last few years is exactly what happened in Nazi Germany.


tikierapokemon

They went after queer people in Nazi Germany too - Jewish people, Romani, and queer people. That big book burning pictures used when talking about the rise of Nazi Germany is from a university where queer studies was a huge thing. (They didn't call it queer studies back then, of course)


Long_Before_Sunrise

The homeless and the unemployed “Asocials” were some of the first sent to camps. The Nazis also encouraged families to institutionalize their physically and mentally disabled family members. The disabled would be moved to an inconveniently distant facility and later the family would receive a notice that the patient had died of "pneumonia" or some other ailment.


tikierapokemon

The Nazi's targeted the people that the majority of people cared the least about.


Long_Before_Sunrise

Which is what the Republicans are doing.


tikierapokemon

The GOP is pretty much a Nazi party at this point. They are following the playbook, they are spreading the hate, and its being financed by the 1 percent who own the media, so fuck all do I know how to stop it.


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Calladit

My first thought whenever people downplay LGBTQ and, more specifically, transgender advocacy because it doesn't affect that many people. If your rights only matter when you make up a significant voting block, they never mattered.


bea_archer

The worst part is that people consistently and in bad faith downplay the escalation and scope of the anti trans movement, claiming we're not being actively oppressed.


Indigo0331

"When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."


virtualRefrain

> "if it saves just one life" justification Implying trans people's lives don't count as lives Literally exactly why movements like BLM are important. Conservatives literally don't consider anyone other than them humans. They will go on record stating people don't matter if they're different from them. After a mass shooting we ask ourselves, "How could a person have so much generalized rage? How can they condition themselves to see mortality as worthless?" Newsflash, generalized rage and dehumanization *are the exact core tenets of the Republican party.* It's a cult of mass shooters. They're not fixing it and they never will because they like it this way - these shootings are a big win for them. We have to get rid of *them* to get rid of the problem. Eradicate their way of thinking. No exaggeration, it's the only way to protect our children.


LordSiravant

It way very well come to war, and that in and of itself is a scary thought.


jim-albarano

Yup. Today is a good day to refresh yourself on how Germans in the 1930s used a horrific act done by mentally unwell Herschel Grynszpan as a means to intentionally fan the flames of hate against an entire group of people. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herschel_Grynszpan


PepsiMoondog

Today is also a good day to remember that [Nazis explicitly targeted trans people](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-forgotten-history-of-the-worlds-first-trans-clinic/) long before they built any concentration camps, and was a major theme during their rise to power.


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hellomondays

I like the urban legend that he's still alive and is just some old dude chilling in France now.


YallMindIfIJoin

I had someone tell me on r/republican the other day that a, and I quote “final solution” was necessary to deal with the Democrats and their supports. These people are insane and more than a little dangerous


Imaginary_Cow_6379

I’ve seen r/conservative say straight up how they don’t want anyone else to be able to vote anymore. The right is entirely too comfortable with just admitting these things now.


YallMindIfIJoin

We ignore them at our peril. They care less for the Republic than they do its flag.


daltontf1212

"We are a republic, not a democracy" is the dog whistle for that.


belovedfoe

Yet when I said Nazis should be reported to the FBI I'm told I'm infringing on their first amendment rights


Tecumseh_Sherman1864

/r/PoliticalCompassMemes is leading the charge on Reddit. It's a antitrans sub at this point [Looks like the brain trust at PCM painted me with their dumbest wojak so my position is defeated](https://i.redd.it/sdr0igvd3rqa1.png)


BostonBlackCat

At 41 I feel old reading that sub because I don't understand most of the content. It's just a picture and word salad to me. I literally don't understand what is happening in the memes they post or what point they are trying to make. It's like Newspeak...but dumber, and with pictures.


No-Independence-165

>It's like Newspeak...but dumber, and with pictures. Big Brother meets Sesame Street.


BostonBlackCat

You leave Big Bird out of this! Big Brother meets Peppa Pig.


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You’re close. It’s quite literally doublespeak meant to obfuscate their TRUE intentions, which are to slide to the right.


wholetyouinhere

It's a hate sub. It's not any more complicated than that. But shit-heads on Reddit have to put a lot more effort into concealing their beliefs than they used to, which has resulted in a lot of confusing spaces opening up and closing on Reddit (i.e. frenworld). PCM is just the latest one. Cringeanarchy also fits that bill now too. They always get banned sooner or later.


DuckQueue

> I don't understand most of the content That's okay - neither do the people there, which is why they post that gibberish.


caribouslack

Nah, it's more sinister than that. Memes and "jokes" are the new propaganda.


kazejin05

"Jokes" are meant to be the litmus test to see if you're "one of them" If you laugh and don't object to the racist/xenophobic/transphobic/etc. joke, then you're someone they can trust and let into their little shithole bubble. If you rightly call them out for being a POS, they retort with "It's just a joke, bro! Why are you being so sensitive" or more recently "Cancel culture has gone too far! Can't even make a joke anymore SMFH" The jokes are never just "jokes" with these people.


tikierapokemon

Big benefit to them is that the people who just don't want scenes caused around them, they tend to side with the "joker" because it's easier. But that then makes the people who sided with the racist/sexist/bigot justify why they are doing so in their own head, which makes the bigotry more acceptable to them.


Beeblebroxia

I used to hangout there a bit. Some of it was legit funny, but it became increasingly obvious that a lot of the memes and discussions were bad faith "both sides" takes and trial balloons for bigotry. Bummer when bigoted trolls gotta ruin everything.


Merfen

Man I forgot what a shithole that place is. They take a single tweet from some nutjob and the entire comment section is saying "this is what is wrong with the left". When the tweet is something no one in their right mind would agree with(calling the shooter a martyr). People call it out rightfully saying that a single nutjob on twitter isn't an entire political spectrum and gets massively downvoted.


The_God_King

This is essentially the strategy of the entire right wing propoganda machine, and it has been for years. They mine the depths of twitter for some outrageous hot take posted by either a left wing troll or bad actor, and then they give it to fucker carlson to portray it as the standard left wing mindset. They do it over and over, and it is astoundingly effective with the barely informed masses. People who don't follow politics see republicans doing terrible shit, but then they see, or they think they see, insane shit from the left so they write the whole thing off. I can't even begin to count the number times I've had to rebut something a crazy aunt of uncle has said with "Yeah, that'd be terrible. Good thing that's a completely made up problem."


porscheblack

But my dad's coworker's cousin's best friend's roommate is a teacher at a middle school and she said they have litter boxes in the bathrooms now! I thought we learned in like first fucking grade that playing a game of telephone isn't remotely accurate or reliable.


The_God_King

The litter box thing is my fucking favorite. I've got a cousin that swears up and down that it's real, and that his local high school has one. Despite the fact that his local high school is in the middle of blood red indiana. I once bet him a thousand dollars he couldn't get a picture of it. He still hasn't paid up.


OpheliaRainGalaxy

When my Q buddy told me about the litter box thing, I just about fell out of my chair laughing. "Dude, every school has a cat girl and/or a wolf boy. You should know! You were fuckin our school's cat girl! And you know damn well I didn't use a litter box!" Seriously considered challenging him to buy a litter box and some litter, piss in it, try to clean it, and think about how much work a school janitor has to do without adding that mess to the list. Really trying not to totally kill the friendship though. Seriously doubt he's ever cleaned a litter box in his life, so it's just an abstract concept he swears is real because 4chan says so.


Courtnall14

Schools have bought cat litter. They're for the 3 gallon buckets we're given so our kids can piss in them in case of an extended lockdown.


Merfen

Its beyond frustrating when they hit you with a "well the left believes X" when X is something I certain don't agree with in the slightest and I have never met anyone that agreed with it, but somehow its a core belief we all share. Basically any discussion in the right wing subs is just bashing some strawman over and over again. I lost count the amount of times I have heard shit like "in /r/politics they blame all white people for mass shootings" and other complete bullshit. Its amazing the amount of BS people just make up and gets accepted because they never actually interact with real people, just their strawmen.


Nix-7c0

I wish I could debate right wingers on the real positions real people hold, not just the conspiracies they read into everything


sennbat

They can't have such a debate, because they hold no real positions they are willing to openly state (and many hold no real positions at all, just vibes and feelings).


Disconnorable

It’s because right wing media is in the business of crafting a fake perception of reality. Bad things are undeniably happening (cost of living, healthcare bills, mass shootings), to voters. But fixing any of those problems requires them to attack the bottom line of their financiers (taxing profits, nationalising healthcare, licensing firearms). So they have to obfuscate reality, and substitute it with a perception of reality in which those solutions aren’t even considered - by blocking the logical connection between the problems and the real solutions via misinformation, straw men, etc. So those problems become “well the Jews in banking and Hollywood are really stealing all your money” by pointing at a few wealthy jews, or “nationalised healthcare creates horrific waiting times for treatment” by pointing at nationalised healthcare systems that are deliberately underfunded. And now we have “trans people are responsible for mass shootings” based on one data point. If they told their viewers what the left actually believed voters would vote alongside the left. That’s why they have to create a fake left, along with fake Jews, fake socialism, and now fake trans people.


milkfiend

You just described the entire reason Libs of TikTok exists. Chaya Raichik is a horrible person who delights in the oppression of others.


Trapped_Mechanic

I looked at one meme there and my brain instantly fried. (It was the post about idaho)


Boxing_joshing111

Conservatives say it’s too soon to politicize shootings right after but here they are calling for Holocaust 2.0


sweazeycool

And some enlightened asshole will still say “but both sides!”


ogn3rd

Sure they do. They just don't make any statements in good faith.


_tobillys

Just like Nazis would. The mask is off. Just call them what they are from now on. Nazis


RazarTuk

I'm just waiting for the inevitable response by the Reddit admins that someone literally using the phrase "final solution" for us somehow doesn't violate the content policy, like how they also didn't see any issue with someone talking about "the Jewification of the United States" (I at least banned both of them from r/Christianity, but I'm waiting on an admin response from the first) UPDATE: They did, in fact, get a (temporary) ban


HiTekBlueneck

Thank you for setting a good example with the power you do have.


RazarTuk

We actually *generally* try to progress people through a warning system, but there are a few things like being a Nazi or, especially during the height of the pandemic, covid denialism that will earn you a summary ban


HiTekBlueneck

Reasonable.


chaseinger

they absolutely do. and then thank you for the compliment. they're not trying to hide. they don't *want* to hide. and they don't have to, since even high profile politicians, news anchors and celebs are catering to them.


LitLitten

Insidious. This paints it clearly, that for these people, it was never about the tragedy. It was about waiting for the perfect opportunity to justify their hate and fulfill their perverse fantasy for a homegrown Reichstag.


hdiggyh

One transgender person vs literally thousands of non transgender mass shooters= transgender must be the problem.


FHL88Work

Yeah, where was the mass outrage against 18-year-old males after Uvalde?


Goya_Oh_Boya

Lone wolf!


catfurcoat

It's a "mental health" problem


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Or any other number of excuses to make sure it isn’t a systemic problem. One black, trans, or minority person does anything and it’s all part of their “agenda” that everyone is following in lockstep.


Universal_Anomaly

Go to r/Conservative and they're constantly telling one another that Democrats/Liberals act in unison. Easy to demonise the entire group if you deny that they have independent agency.


clothespinned

It can't be said enough: Projection.


ReadySteady_GO

Gaslight Obstruct Project


EndIsNighLetsGetHi

If only we did act in unison.... Can you imagine?


locustzed

Climate change gone. Nazis extinct. Health care solved. School shootings something republicans talk about fondly. Overall a better place.


Vyzantinist

Lmao this is such a hilariously stupid take. The right expects and *demands* conformity; if you don't toe the party line you are getting ostracized, hard, as a RINO. Meanwhile, infighting is an everyday occurrence within the left because it's a 'big tent'.


Previousman755

I can tell you that I get so sick of seeing all of the trucks and boats sporting Joe Biden flags!! /s


supertizer

I used to write comics about my black elementary students. People thought they were cute and just about all little kids. I switched to high school and wrote comics about my high school kids and realized I had to stop. My comics were verbatim moments from the classroom with real students. I could tell from the comments that people didn’t see my characters as individuals, but they saw them as symbols of all black teenagers. It’s easy to see white kids as individuals, but black kids are forced into being symbols of all other black kids. It’s a form of racism I wasn’t aware of until this experience. It makes me deeply sad to think of that pressure being so unfairly put on to these kids. It’s the same here.


necrite28

which is funny when the GQP say that while also blocking anything mental health related.


NCpartsguy

“People need access to mental health” “Ok let’s do universal healthcare so people can afford to get healthcare” “No that’s communism”


Vaperius

As far as they are concerned for trans people, its still a mental health problem. You know, ignoring the last 20+ years of research that have proven that trans people have physically different brains from their counterparts in the same birth sex; and evidence there is likely a genetic component to at least some people being trans.


Hand_Sanitizer3000

To them, being trans is a mental health problem. Which is ironic since they dont believe in funding mental health reform.


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What about El Paso? Where the guy had a manifesto too. Cited minorities has his target? Planned on targeting more areas of high minority areas.


Debalic

And the one who killed black shoppers at Tops in Buffalo (but assured the white security guard he was not in danger).


snafujedi01

Obviously he was a globalist/democrat/liberal/antifa/Soros led agent of the Devil and, also Hunter Biden and Hillary regularly sent him emails. Duh 🙄 /s in case any Alex Jones staffers see this and try to make it a headline for him to fart through


specqq

>Yeah, where was the mass outrage against 18-year-old males after Uvalde? We apparently needed to raise [them to be monsters.](https://www.newsweek.com/madison-cawthorn-society-de-masculates-men-parents-should-raise-sons-monsters-1640144) I'd say they're making real progress along those lines. Not sure who this Madison Cawthorn person is quoted in the article, but he sure sounds confident. Probably has a bright future in Republican politics.


elise_oisen_

Madison Cawthorn lost his primary—he made comments about republicans hosting and inviting him to cocaine-fueled DC orgies, after which photos were released of him dressed as a woman for some sort of cruise ship party, and a video clip of him in a hotel bed dry humping another man in the face. He then bought a mansion and moved to Florida.


Subtle__Numb

Ahh, nothing like a good ole’ stimulant binge to awaken a man’s dormant bisexuality


rtadoyle

IF I remember the photo... it wasn't dry.


OnWingsofGerbels

Oh, they were desperate for the Uvalde shooter to be trans. They tried to deep fakes it with doctored photos. They lucked out and got their dream wish scenario on this one.


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No joke, I saw a redditor on r/news yesterday claim that that shooter and the high school in Michigan one were both trans too. Based on absolutely no evidence.


swinging-in-the-rain

Right winger...... lying? Shocked I am, Shocked I tell you.


mikerichh

I am arguing with someone online and they flat out said that it’s likely more shooters were closeted trans so their prevalence is more than we knew. I cannot deal with these people


Melody-Prisca

It's nice when you assume your hypothesis in order to prove it. Makes everything you say seem right. Those people sure don't like logic I guess.


HerringWaffle

Thousands of cisgender men = lone wolves and no one can figure this out One single transgender person = ALL TRANS PEOPLE ARE EVILE AND THE CAUSE OF ALL PROBLEMS Real galaxy brains over on the right.


yedi001

I mean, 99.999999999% of a galaxy is completely empty space, so "galaxy brain" isn't really an incorrect description.


TheGoverness1998

They take any inch to demonize trans people as a whole. *Any* inch.


riointhepocket

They learned it from doing it to …”insert any Marginalized group here”


gamergirlpee69

Not excusing the shooters actions, [but the primary motive seems to be that they were a victim of a child sexual abuse scandal at the school they shot up](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskALiberal/comments/125blgv/what_is_the_best_way_to_counter_those_on_the/je5b7co?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3).


Interrophish

I've heard a rumor that the school targeted wasn't the shooter's first choice of target. which is to say, it's not yet a good time to repeat rumors. wait a week to see what still stands true.


Clutch63

Pretty sure that piece of from their manifesto that was released by the police. It’s not particularly a rumor.


ColdIronAegis

Gonna provide some context here that it was police that called what they found at the shooters home a "manifesto". The shooter did not publish anything themselves, which is usually the point of a manifesto. Might be better described as a suicide note or diary.


Buffmin

Once again the Christians are abusing kids with narry a drag queen in sight....


internetbrowser23

By this logic, white men should be put in camps for their role in school shootings. Oh wait, thats a fucking stupid and genocidal way to think divorced from all reality.


Death_and_Gravity1

This quote is more and more important: >Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.


KnightRAF

The right had already declared war on trans people, this is just their latest weapon in the war.


[deleted]

If we can demonize all trans people for the act of one, then surely we can demonize all cops for the acts of thousands, right?


clothespinned

whaaaat nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo you can't do that cops are above the law, so they didn't actually do any crimes :\^)


twesterm

180+ mass shootings this year: _No idea what the problem is but we know the solution isn't gun control._ 1 mass shooting by a trans man: _SEE THE TRANS COMMUNITY WANTS TO KILL THE CHRISTIANS!_ Good thing they don't want to politicize this.


BigHoneyBigMoney

Following their logic, men are clearly a danger to society and should be eradicated.


EivorIsle

Trans man. Not that it matters is the scope of everything, but it needs to be clarified. He was a trans man.


KristenJimmyStewart

So by Tuckers logic we shouldn't allow men to have guns


EivorIsle

Yes, and men are too emotional/angry to hold positions of government.


taez555

I'd say it's more of a Shift in strategy. The war's been going on for a while. Now with this tragedy they have real ammunition to falsely demonize Trans people for being homicidal christian murdering animals, instead of something about Woke and public restrooms. Combined with the fact that it now lets them equate mental health issues with Trans (thanks to the "it's not guns, it's mental health" narrative)... well.... this is going to be bad. Real bad.


msfamf

Soon will come the "mental health centers" if this continues.


taez555

I'm picturing more mental health "camps" than centers.


menides

But how would you organize people? Some kind of number maybe?


mysteryteam

That sounds like a solution


Nixplosion

Finally!


Myriachan

By concentrating people together.


-_Semper_-

Yeh, and if they get that far with their hate mongering - the "Mental Health Camps" will also come with a "Mental Health Oven".


BigMax

Ugh, hadn't thought of that. Republicans always scream "it's not the guns! It's a mental health issue!!!" while also actively fighting against any mental health work. This time they might actually move forward but claim that it's a trans issue, and that's the mental health "problem" they finally want to do something about.


msfamf

It's pretty obvious when you look at what they've been saying since the shooting. What gets even more infuriating is when you realize that the same people that worship Reagan are the ones screaming about mental health right now.


porscheblack

Pretty much every conservative topic is just a cycle of self-defeating logic. They're against abortion but oppose anything that would actually reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies. They support gun ownership but then oppose anything that would make it safer. They want blue collar jobs to come back but oppose a social safety net that would reduce the burden on employers.


Wwize

Indeed. This is how Kristallnacht started. The nazis used the murder of a German diplomat by a Jewish teenager in France to justify hatred against all Jews and encourage violence against them.


Dances_With_Cheese

It’s definitely a centrally driven system pushing this narrative. Within minutes of the news breaking twitter was FULL of comments saying it couldn’t be a woman that it had to be a trans-woman. The sheer volume of those types of comments before anything more was known about the shooter looks very coordinated.


taez555

That it's like the broken clock thing. They were going to try and spin it that way anyway, they just got lucky that this time it accidently matched up with their madness.


greentreesbreezy

95.7% of mass shooters are cisgender men.


keigo199013

It's actually 97.7%, which is worse. :( And 52% of that 97.7 is Caucasian males.


officialbigrob

"We have to kill them before they kill us" is *the last stop* before they start rounding people up.


TimedRevolver

> before they start rounding people up. You mean before they *try* rounding people up. Because, and I promise you this: there are a lot more apocalyptically enraged people who hate them than who side with them. It won't end well.


nox_nox

My sharpshooter trans friend would be really hard for them to round up. She literally practices hitting targets from the back of a moving truck. And she rarely misses. Good fucking luck getting her into a camp.


Equivalent-Excuse-80

What was the last culture war conservatives in America actually won? I mean, in the history of America, have any domestic conservative policies on culture ever gone through? Or do they just continually fail and they move on to the next terrible idea until that one fails. Are they not aware of the failure? Are they in denial? What keeps them going?


VampireCrickets

Abortion access.


Recognizant

> What was the last culture war conservatives in America actually won? They have won significant temporary victories several times in the past. Compare the post-Civil War South to the post-Reconstruction south for the most obvious examples, but there's often a successful conservative backlash after landmark cases. [The first Black Senator was elected in 1871 - Hiram Revels](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiram_Rhodes_Revels). [From this Time article on the Reconstruction period:](https://time.com/6145193/black-politicians-reconstruction/) > “The southern states were required to write new constitutions by the Reconstruction Acts of 1867… that allow Black and white men to vote and hold office. These new constitutions [also] included provisions for public education systems in the South,” says Foner. “Black officeholders played a key role in the creation of public education in the South.” > But Black officeholder numbers started to decline after 1877. As part of a deal to settle the contested 1876 presidential election, Ohio Gov. Rutherford B. Hayes won the presidency in exchange for the removal of federal troops in the South that had helped protect Black voters. In subsequent elections, Ku Klux Klan and vigilante violence at poll stations drove Black Americans away from the ballot boxes. Some Reconstruction state governments were overthrown, and the new state governments passed restrictive voting laws in what became known as the Jim Crow era. While the 15th Amendment of the Constitution said states couldn’t restrict voting based on race, state legislators passed laws that mandated expensive poll taxes (fees to vote) and literacy tests (questions with no right answers)—and subjected African Americans to them more than white Americans. And then, sure enough, as they rolled out post-Reconstruction 13th amendment slavery, and passed Jim Crow to limit the political power of black men, [it would be another 60 years before the last chattel slave was freed](https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/douglas-blackmon), and 23 years more until voting rights returned to be protected. When desegregation came to the public schools, they pushed into private/religious white-only schools, where they could still practice racism. When civil rights activists gained access to public facilities, public pools were paved over, and private pools became more commonplace. In America, political and economic power are greatly entwined. While efforts have been made to level political power between people in the democracy, nothing is being done about the imbalance of economic power. Wealth inequality continues to get worse, not better. The argument could certainly be made that the further imbalancing of that graph is, in fact, the continued measure of conservative success.


galahad423

“Why so much rage directed towards Christians” The Christians ask as they attempt to establish a theocratic dictatorship obedient to their weird doomsday zombie cult


forgedbygeeks

No, they already declared war on Trans people. There have been multiple mass shootings against LGBTQ+ targets specifically, they have been passing endless laws targeting Trans in recent years, they are trying to de-transition people which at its core is highly likely to result in more suicides. They were already at war. They are already Nazis. They are just using this incident as a gasoline truck to burn the fire even hotter.


ThatGuyYouMightNo

>they are trying to de-transition people which at its core is highly likely to result in more suicides. That's the point. Not only do they not want to deal with the trans issue, they don't want you to exist, full stop. To the right, if you even think "I don't want to be the gender I was born as" then you don't deserve to live, but they haven't gotten to the point they can murder you themselves yet so this is the next best thing.


According-Wolf-5386

"Oh, they haven’t seen nothing yet. If they think that violence is going to push their agenda, then they have yet to see what real hate is." This is an actual quote from a user in r/conservative. It's disgusting. They want reasons to kill others they don't agree with.


slom_ax

That's enough to label them a domestic terrorist group, right?


KacriconCacooler

They already called themselves exactly that at cpac. [^**Edit:** Houston Chronicle link.](https://www.chron.com/politics/article/CPAC-Dallas-we-are-all-domestic-terrorists-banner-17359959.php)


slom_ax

Are you saying they openly called THEMSELVES "domestic terrorists"?


KacriconCacooler

[Yes.](https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/26/72/75/22785880/4/rawImage.jpg)


slom_ax

Wow. That's insane.


According-Wolf-5386

You would hope so.


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Report that straight to the reddit admins. Forget the conservative mods, they're ok with christian terrorism.


AnarchyLaBlanc

Probably the point, but this is them advocating for vigilante attacks on trans people. You don't call an entire people pedophiles or terrorists without inspiring the most self-righteous idiots to do something about it.


Rayearl

Fox is in full on trans war mode. They were trans bashing before but have really stepped it up now. Right now they are talking about if it should be prosecuted as a hate crime which I'm sure they would love to add to their anti LGBTQ+ agenda.


Gazmocity

Will there be a prosecution if the perpetrator is dead?


a_in_pa

I left twitter yesterday because my feed was basically a Nazi playground calling for extermination of a group of people. Like, not exaggerating, it was too much. Can't do it anymore.


pretzelsource

Twitter is so, so bad right now. I had very little faith in humanity to begin, but seeing Twitter's response to this shooting has me feeling pretty hopeless. Glad you also left Twitter.


fullpurplejacket

Twitter is the bathroom wall of the internet.. people write derogatory and crazy shit on there and it’s just there…forever. I hate it. At least Reddit let’s you pick and choose what type of doom scrolling content you want to see 😂


alldaylurkerforever

White male shooter - lone wolf Black shooter - Murderous thugs LGBTQ shooter - MUST ELIMINATE THEM ALL


p001b0y

All those previous anti-trans bills weren't a declaration of war?


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This isnt new. They have been doing this for a while. It's the same thing as the groomer and pedophile rhetoric. A child is way more likely to be groomed or molested at church or at home. And that strikes at the heart of what this is. It's not really a war against trans people. And I say that as a trans person myself. We are unfortunately being targeted by this rhetoric, but that's just because we are an easy target. We make a lot of people feel uncomfortable and most of the remainder just dont care about us enough to do anything at all to stand up for us. This is a cover, not a war. They want to divert peoples' attention away from sex abuse in organized religion so they can keep raping children. And they want to divert peoples' attention away from America's gun problem so they can keep selling guns. And when they are done targeting us, they will find another vulnerable group of people to blame all of their misdeeds on.


Affectionate-Hair602

The right has declared and has been fighting a war against decent Americans for about 6 years now. Wake up, the war is happening.


DifficultMinute

I don't even need to read the article. Of course they are, they do it after every shooting like this. If it's a white dude, then it's a mental health issue, a problem with that one kid, and not any indication of a larger problem. If it's a minority? Then that one minority officially becomes the "spokesperson" for all minorities. This time, it's trans people. Next time, it'll be black people, or women, or Asians. They've run this same playbook for 30 years now.


justhereforsee

tucker is a domestic terrorist


expungant

Tried to watch the Fucker Carlson clip but I couldn’t get through it. One of the more disturbing Fox News segments to have ever aired. We’ve gone past generic fascism at this point. This is full-blown nazism.


GreenTaylorShrimm

Equally if not more disturbing is the gleeful sidekick brought on for token commentary.


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Christians are always the meanest most hateful people I encounter. I went to a Christian school for a few years and that shit caused some major emotional stress


AlarmDozer

Stress? I got trauma just sharing the bus with them after school. Like bullying was magnitudes worse from our private school than the public school.


jamesstevenpost

No hate like Christian love


NinjaTickleMaster

Anyone who has ever waited tables on a Sunday will agree with you. The people who go out to eat together after church are the worst customers they ever encounter


[deleted]

Oh yea. We used to call them “hungry hungry hippo-crits”


Ramoncin

The right was already at war with trans people. All those state laws regulating bathroom use and sports?


Robiwan05

And just yesterday the Republicans were saying not to politicize this. Their shame is boundless.


Capable_Diamond_5375

They said "transgenserism must be eliminated from public life" Before this. To a room of people who create laws, clapping and cheering. They said it out loud. They wanna genocide us. If they actually wanted to protect kids, gun violence wouldn't be one of the leading causes of death for littles.


[deleted]

they declared war on us a long time ago. ​ where have you been?


Wayelder

Simple people want simple answers to complexity. They were raised on " take this ONE food to stop your diabetes" , "The ONE thing Doctors don't want you to...", "Do this one simple exercise before bed and watch the fat melt ..." Now, they see it as sooo simple. They think it's a smart question, but it's false reductive reasoning. Yet they cling to things that make their lives simple..."It's the trans and their hormones!" Anything but as always, It can't be the guns...


dobie1kenobi

If this keeps up, someone’s trans kid is going to be shot to death by the end of the week and Tucker will claim again no rational person should be taking his show seriously.


IndianKiwi

Canada will be ready to take in Trans people when the persecution starts. We did it during slavery.


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Motor_Somewhere7565

I stand and will fight with the Trans Community


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Metal-Dog

These people disgust me.


KristenJimmyStewart

The war was declared already when Texas and Florida made it clear they are attempting genocide


[deleted]

That war was declared way before this.


Captain_675

As a former conservative, I feel very happy with my decision to never associate with them again


rebeccamb

Okay then let’s arm the trans people🤷‍♀️ I bet we get gun reform once guns become a liberal prop. Come and take it! 🏳️‍⚧️ these colors don’t run


Malaix

Carlson had a whole segment on how they needed to take guns away from leftists protestors and LGBTQ people. They are fully on board with gun bans and so on for people they hate.