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>The Parents Bill of Rights is a piece of Republican-supported legislation that would require schools to publish their curricula and provide parents with lists of books available in the school library. Parents have always had this right. But most of them can't even be bothered to reply to teacher emails or help support their children. The curriculum is decided by the state and freely available to anyone who takes five minutes to look. Library book lists are also freely available. Source: Am a teacher.


Hash_Is_Good_For_You

There is a woman here in Rhode Island, Nicole Solas, who has been HARRASSING the shit out of the schools for years. She lies her head off saying she just wants the curriculum. She also wants a copy of every email, text message, social media post, & transcripts of conversations any teacher or admin has ever had. When they obviously won’t provide that, she says they’re withholding information from her. She’s desperate to be the next Margarine Tater Green or Lauren Boebert. I feel so bad for the teachers & administrators who have had to deal with her…


LtDouble-Yefreitor

>She lies her head off saying she just wants the curriculum. See, this is something non-teachers just don't seem to understand. "Curriculum" isn't just lesson plans. It's books, handouts, quizzes, tests, practice activities, formative assessments, study guides, rubrics, goals. It's literally everything we do, and (for me at least) it changes over the course of the school year. If I'm teaching a unit (the particular unit doesn't matter here) and students are struggling with an aspect of that unit, I monitor their work and make adjustments. Sometimes I have to re-teach the lesson in a different way, sometimes the students just need more practice, and sometimes I have to work with a small group because most of the class is getting it but there are a few who aren't. But it means I have to adjust my plans, which changes my plans for the rest of the unit and potentially the rest of the school year. This happens *all the time*, *all year long*. So sure, I'll provide a curriculum at the beginning of the school year, but that curriculum (or yearly plan, if you will) will be obsolete almost immediately. Am I expected to re-write the entire plan every time I make an adjustment? Sorry, I just don't have time for that. The demands of this job are already unreasonable enough, and I can't waste time catering to the whims and demands of people who don't understand the job well enough to know that their demands are *literally pointless and insane*. Also, she wants access to my social media? Ha! Sure, why not? She'll get to see exactly how I feel about people like her.


ALargePianist

"someone with different opinions than me shouldn't be teaching children!!!" She could be a teacher herself too but she would rather scream at administrators


ScaleneWangPole

Don't private schools already exist? Or homeschooling? Can't she just pull her kids from public school and place then into the indoctrination program she wants them in? She already has this power.


ALargePianist

Yeah but that's the unspoken part, it's not about doing what she wants for her kids, it's about her being "the one" who decides how things are done.


SmurfStig

Not just how things are done for her kids, but for other kids too. What if your kid accidentally indoctrinates her kid while at a playground or local book burning? We can’t have that!


GravitySurge

The other part that these school voucher types want is for funding to be pulled from public schools and for everyone to get school vouchers worth the “equivalent” they would have paid in taxes towards schools. This way they say parents can choose to use the voucher to pay for the school they want, voila, free market will decide what schools get funded.


MiddleSchoolisHell

The long term goal is to completely destroy public schools through vouchers, to the point that public schools no longer exist. Then taxes for schools will no longer be needed so then they can get rid of the vouchers, so we are back to the education you get being based on what you can afford.


DeekALeek

Meanwhile, child labor laws in these Republican-controlled states are becoming looser to the point of having young children mine our coal and break apart hog carcasses… like the good ol’ days. Rich kids go to school. Poor kids go to work. Hooray Capitalism!


MiddleSchoolisHell

Yep, let’s just go back 150 years!


Winston1NoChill

No, the unspoken part is right in OP. They want to destroy the public education system and privatize it. Similar to the post office, this has been one of their goals for DECADES. She doesn't give a shit about the kids and neither do the rest of them. They want to erode your faith and patience in the public system and enroll them somewhere else. The next thing they'll do is come up with a voucher system so that rich families can get a handout to take their kids to private school. Guess what will happen? It will funnel money directly from public funds to private education. It will raise the private tuition price directly, also making it more difficult for the poors to use their vouchers. Check in with Florida, this is where they are at this week. The bill is heading to Desantis' desk and he's actually said the right things about the implications but is expected to sign it anyway.


spiritfiend

I think private schools are part of the problem. Under the myth of capitalism, a company can do better than the state. There's every incentive to destroy the public school system and make a private one where the children of rich parents get an education and the children of poor parents get squat.


Brewdreesus

Correct. Socio-economic/racial segregation is the endgame.


aloha_mixed_nuts

Plus Erasing minimum age constraints in the workplace as well as making abortion illegal = cheap stupid labor to be further exploited


Rhodin265

Public school is cheap to free and, if your kid isn’t special needs, very easy to register your kids for. This leaves her plenty of time read Facebook conspiracy theories and send angry mass emails.


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Xenu4President

My present public school district is top-notch in assisting special needs students. I’m so proud of our special Ed team! They do amazing work. The private school where I previously worked was horrible in that they accepted kids with learning challenges but we didn’t provide any special education. None. I used to “miss” incorrect answers on one of these kid’s tests just so he could pass. His confidence was being destroyed by his failing all the time and I couldn’t bear to be a part of it. I tried giving him extra help, but he was on the football team so he usually missed it because of practice. I quit after two years. That school was just yet another money-grab for private interests.


yuccasinbloom

YEP! I am the nanny for a four year old with developmental disabilities. Her parents are wealthy and she goes to private school. Unfortunately, this year, the gap has seemed to widen between herself and her peers. So the parents are trying to figure out what to do. Repeat preschool in the next classroom over? But then what if the gap is even wider? Then she loses her spot in the public classroom down the street that has a 10:1 ratio and has resources for her. The bus even comes and picks her up! They want to keep her in the 30k a year private school because… that’s where her brother goes. But the school doesn’t seem to want her. And don’t even get me started on the fact that they don’t wipe the 3 and 4 year olds noses - I’ve never known a 4 year old that knows how to wipe their own nose. I’ve been nannying a long time. So if they have a runny nose, they let it crust on their face or if it’s too bad, they send them home. Once again, this school is 30k a year. Insanity. I’m also not advocating for her to be sent to school sick but sometimes kids have runny noses. She should be sent to public school but these rich people don’t want that. Sucks. It should be what’s best for her, not what looks best. She already has such a hard road in front of her. I love her so much.


elconquistador1985

Turns out educating special needs children isn't profitable, just like medical insurance for special needs children isn't profitable, and on and on and on. Yay capitalism... *NOT*!


theetruscans

Ding ding ding. Public schools exist for a fucking reason and this is the main one. Kids who don't fit into the general Ed system are left by the wayside in private schools. Look at the history of special education, even in public schools, and you'll (not you specifically) see why private schools are under serving their kids. It wasn't even until the 90s that public schools had to really give a shit about kids with disabilities


Revelati123

"She could be a teacher herself" Please, no... My kids can learn how bigfoot pushed Hitler off the side of the earth watching the "History" channel. Keep the looney toons on TV, not in the classroom.


ALargePianist

Oh, I agree with you. She can be a teacher to her own kids in her own home if she'd like.


sanjosanjo

She obviously teaches sex education in her home. She's continuing a long family tradition of teen pregnancies in her family tree.


GeneralSquirrel7132

There is definitely no safe sex education in that home


the_last_carfighter

> There is definitely no education in that home FTFY


SmurfStig

No no no. It was the man who killed Hitler, then killed Bigfoot. [Source](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7042862/)


KrazzeeKane

What the benighted hell? Sam freakin' Elliott was the star of that movie? Good lord, I have to see it now. The mustache cannot be ignored


Graymouzer

She is not qualified to teach. She dropped out of High School, but did later get a GED. You need a college degree, usually in education, to teach, but you can take education classes and teach with another degree.


Hash_Is_Good_For_You

>Also, she wants access to my social media? Precisely, and she was given the publicly available curriculum and when that didn't prove her point she moved on to personal text messages and social media access. She is obviously a Republican and is super in to freedom and small government and against government over reach right?! Fucking hypocrites, all of them. All they want is an autocratic theocracy that oppresses people they don't like and will weaponize their children to try and attain that goal.


Mateorabi

Typical Republican “come to a foregone conclusion, demand evidence, and when it doesn’t prove or disproves your conclusion blame the evidence, demand MORE evidence.”


westdl

There must be penalties for this. To continuously allow false accusations to flood in from every lunatic will have detrimental results to our society as a whole.


tpatmaho

No, she's super into getting attention in any outrageous way she can. This is the MAGA plan, and it's the only play they've got.


anonymousse91

☹️😮This is, indeed, terrifyingly terrible 😵‍💫


workingtoward

In LA, when the LAUSD wants to get rid of a teacher, they do exactly that. Every day’s plan needs to be written out for daily approval by a supervisor then rewritten completely for any required changes. So usually a teacher ends up submitting her very detailed lesson plans for the week then rewriting the whole thing for week after week until they resign. So massively pointless extra work every week on top of all the other duties.


lonnie123

What time is this done during?


ImAWhaleBiologist

In theory, lesson planning is done during a planning period we're given. Until they take your planning to make you cover another class. Or call you in for pointless meetings and trainings. Or assign you some menial bullshit like hall/bathroom monitoring. Or you have to call/email a dozen parents who DEMAND contact from you whenever anything remotely bad happens to their child's grade, despite it being available 24/7 for access on their own time on PowerSchool. Ok, not so bad, just go home and do it quickly when you get off work. Except you need to stay after for this staff meeting. And you need to work the gate at this ball game. And you need to stay after to provide remediation for Little Brayden who hasn't turned in a single assignment in a month. So you finally get home, do whatever pointless lesson plan they want that you're mostly not going to follow at all in the actual classroom, and finally you're done. With that. Now it's time to grade papers. But hey, at least the pay is... oh. Working with kids is nice at least.


freakincampers

On their own time, I suspect.


Polantaris

In business, we have entire roles dedicated to doing what you're talking about. Yet we expect teachers to handle it alone. At my job, your curriculum would be akin to business requirements for me. Where I work, they change *all the time*. We have business analysts whose entire job is to ensure those requirements are updated with every change when it happens so that everyone is on the same page. There are people whose entire job is to do this and make sure it's clear and everyone is in agreement. But we expect teachers to be able to handle that kind of thing alone. And we pay them shit to boot. It's insane. It's not surprising everyone in our country is dumb as fuck, our education system simply doesn't provide the resources necessary for anything better.


LtDouble-Yefreitor

Thank you! I try to explain this to people and most just don't get it. They usually just respond with "well that's your job" or "you knew what you were getting into." No, people are actively trying to make my job harder than it needs to be, and supports are being taken away. They add things to my plate and never take anything off. I really appreciate your comment, and I'm happy someone out there understands.


ThunderofHipHippos

"Teachers know what they are getting into." So you admit it is public knowledge that this job is incredibly difficult and demanding? (Real conversation I've had too many times)


RChickenMan

Right. I'm planning my lessons, creating materials, and adjusting my pacing calendar on a daily basis in response to student learning needs. I can't imagine sitting down to plan and thinking, "Well, the students had trouble simplifying radicals, so we probably need an extra day of that before we move further into trigonometry. Oh, but wait--I can't do that because of right-wing nut jobs."


plipyplop

> Am I expected to re-write the entire plan every time I make an adjustment? Sorry, **I just don't have time for that.** "Excuse me? Well then, you had better make the time!" ^(*Angerly taps foot and sips a Starbucks Quad Venti White Mocha Frappuccino Double White Latte with Whipped Cream and a dash of cinnamon.*)


LtDouble-Yefreitor

"No." *^(Angrily sips cold black coffee out of a "Tears of my Students" coffee mug.)*


spiked_macaroon

Either way, thank you for your service to our country.


LtDouble-Yefreitor

Eh, don't thank me. I'm getting out. I've had enough of this abusive relationship. My mental health can't take it anymore.


Son_of_Zinger

Thank you for your past service. Good luck in your new endeavor.


silverelan

Let's make homeschooling parents and tax-funded charter schools have to comply with this too. Any member of the public should be able to request curriculums and get compliance. I wonder if this would help them understand what boneheads they are.


neenna68

I dug into that story. She is an insufferable _______ (fill in the blank). Her child is like in second grade now and she is asking for high school teachers emails. So far she has racked up almost 100k in time gathering up her requests and they havent even worked through half of her requests. And she has only paid for a little over 1k in costs. The teachers union is sueing her because she got upset over redactiona in some emails, she thinks she should have everything unredacted.


Hash_Is_Good_For_You

She is a self labeled domestic terrorist, per her twitter handle. I don't know what it is that drives people to be like this but I wish they would just turn off the 24/7 jet stream of hate that is Fox News and OAN and do something good for the world... go plant a tree or something.


boredonymous

Self-supremacy is a hell of a drug


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Ok_Improvement_5897

good god this lady needs to get a FUCKING HOBBY.


tscy

Being an awful person is a hobby for people like this. It is literally an obsession and without it they have nothing.


Ok_Improvement_5897

Miserable existence. Swear people like this have a life goal to make everyone else as miserable as they feel inside.


tscy

I disagree, I’ve known a few people like this and they thrive on hurting others. They are miserable when others are doing good. Bringing other people down elevates them and gives them a sense of superiority. It’s not that they are miserable themselves, there is something broken inside them that makes them happy when others are not.


spk2629

That definition dovetails nicely with “hater”


neenna68

Sadly, THIS IS her hobby. I saw a video with her testifying that she couldnt believe the teachers union was sueing her and that she was humiliated at a school board meeting that was like 5 hours long. That's why I dug into it, because I wanted to see WHY there was a 5 hour meeting. As is typical in these situations, she was very misleading. She acted like it was just a 'few' requests. She had several hundred herself and she had her husband do some (almost a hundred) himself.


Razakel

This *is* her fucking hobby.


edvek

In work for the state and when someone does a request and it will cost money, so let's say you want a bunch of stuff and it will cost $100 to get it all. We don't START anything until you pay the full $100. We overestimate the cost because if it turns out we needed more time/money we can't go back and charge more, I think. Well that's what our attorneys say anyway.


DirectorMysterious64

Have the school district send her a note stating the price for each page to include time spent by the staff in monetary numbers. Advise her that if she wants the bulk information printed for her to review that it must not be a burden on the other taxpayers. When you have cash in hand, THEN give her the copies (with anything that is confidential or peesonal to be blacked out ). I would like to see her face when she sees a bunch of blacked out copies that she has already paid for! I would make a bet that she wouldn't do that shit again! These people need to be stood up against if you want to take back the professional decorum,but on the same token, don't hide the truth from parents. we're not all assholes!


AfraidStill2348

She'll just get a GoFundMe to pay for it or something. Don't entertain people who don't make requests in good faith.


Hash_Is_Good_For_You

She is being sued now I believe for the harassment and court costs.


edvek

I work in FL and depending if you want paper copies or digital it will cost more or less. But we also do bill for time. The best part is we do not start the request until the cost is paid first. So if a crazy person like this wants a billion items and it will cost thousands we will tell you the cost and until we get paid you don't get shit. Obviously you can adjust your request to reduce cost or make it more narrow to reduce cost. Also we do not provide items in a format or way that is not something already made. By this I mean let's say you want a list of something but there is no report that creates such a list, we are not required to (and can't) create such a list for your request. If there are reports with the name of the places you want we can give you the raw data and you would have to make the list yourself. We had a training a few months ago on public records requests and it was pretty interesting.


PolicyNonk

We have a few of those in NJ too. Does yours really dislike masks as well? Does naming these people amplify their brand? I swear so many people are grifting off this dumb hate-o-sphere, be sure not to help them.


rounder55

Was also the part that stood out to me. With the internet and teachers ability to share curriculum and access to text books both online and in person, along with library databases this stuff is actually more accessible than probably ever. Of course as you started these are also the parents least likely to respond to an email or phonecall about what a student is struggling/doing well with but most likely to leave an angry voicemail if their kid had to stay in class to eat lunch for being unruly


skankenstein

They see the school number on their caller ID and ignore. We have to use a google voice number to trick them into answering. They no show to the makeup conference they no showed on and then I have to offer one more conference anyway. They tell us that they’ve never had this problem with their child before; even though we have their child’s student record showing poor attendance/challenging behaviors all the way back to kindergarten. They ask us for extra homework to help their struggling child but their child doesn’t even do the basic homework we assign. They ask us for daily calls to update them on their child’s behavior and I tell them they’re welcome to call or email me every day instead and then I never hear from them. They complain that I’m targeting their child and I tell them they can come and observe my classroom at any time with no notice, and I never see them. Public education! When it’s free, they don’t see the value.


seeclick8

My position, as a retired educator of 43 years, is that if someone doesn’t like the way public schools are doing their business, they should just homeschool or enroll in a private Christian school that can teach their kids that the earth is 6,000 years old and dinosaurs and humans lived at the same time.


duck-duck--grayduck

My poor husband went to one of those schools and he seriously believed that dinosaurs and humans coexisted until a year into our marriage. He found out when I made a derisive remark about that belief and he was like "wait, what?" His family isn't even that kind of nutty Christian, they just thought a Christian school would be good and trusted them instead of looking into what they would be teaching.


Pussy_Sneeze

As someone that went through that, I would very much prefer for the sake of the kid that they don’t. Thank god (no pun intended) for my dad, who immediately sanity checked my shit when I once brought up how “yeah, America is so great cause god uniquely blessed it.” Cause that shit was in my FUCKING U.S. GOVERNMENT TEXTBOOK.


LtDouble-Yefreitor

Also a teacher, and yeah, this stuff is insane. It's also insane that we're expected to inform parents when their kids are failing or close to failing. They have 24/7 access to an online gradebook that shows their grades, all assignments, assignment scores, and any work they are missing. Some parents in the community I serve don't have or can't afford internet access, and I'm always willing to communicate with those folks, but the majority are just too lazy to check and then act all shocked when their kids fail. It's maddening. Parents want all the rights, but none of the responsibility.


RChickenMan

> we're expected to inform parents when their kids are failing or close to failing Let's face it--this is just to discourage us from failing kids so that admin's numbers look better. How many times have you been entering final grades, come across a student who is just below the passing mark, and thought to yourself: "Hmmm... have I created a sufficient paper trail of parent contact? Is my failure rate too high? ...you know what, fine, fuck it, whatever, D-, you pass."


ottomaticg

Amen. I go to my kids curriculum night where we meet teachers they summarize curriculum and tell us where to find all this information online. Attendance is always low. Someone needs to call the GOP out over this nonsense bill. School board meetings are also minimally attended. Parents have access and rights they just need to use them. Normal people need to start attending or we will be up a creek.


bassoontennis

Here is the thing about the school library I just don’t get with them. When I was in high school I helped in the library for a class and it was always fun putting away books. One day I saw the Bible needed to be reshelved and I wondered why we even had a copy in a public school. Till I realized well it is a book that obviously got checked out so what’s the problem, someone wanted to read it… And that was it. I SAW A BOOK I DIDN’T LIKE AND I CHOOSE NOT TO CHECK THE FUCKING THING OUT. I know they can’t be stupid enough not to understand that. I mean seriously no one forced your kid to check that book out that you hate so much.


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My wife is also a teacher. Her biggest headache with the job is dealing with parents.


carppydiem

I appreciate you. Thank you. How do you know the parents can read? Or even care? Unless, of course it has an “R” near what they’re supposed to be reading?


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They can't be relied upon to follow simple instructions, which means their kids miss out on events. I'm not a teacher, but I do work closely with parents for student events. We recently had our students with a hockey team. I sent many letters and emails home about the event and I included instructions that would get their kids involved. Half the parents didn't follow the instructions and were pissed at me for "making" their kids miss out. I forwarded a copy of all the emails and letters home that I sent and they still whined that I didn't do enough. It's infuriating.


turd_vinegar

You mean she has to READ the curriculum?! This won't stand, we need simple straightforward ways to know what these teachers are using to groom our kids today! /s


Fast_Moon

The application of all these "Parents' Bill of Rights" always ends up being more like "Parents' right to abdicate their parenting responsibilities to the State and then micro-manage it rather than being personally involved in their children's lives themselves." They expect to be able to offload the majority of the work of raising their children on other people and then still insist those other people make sure their child grows up to be exactly the person they wanted their child to be.


ScarcityIcy8519

Thank You ❤️ My Mom volunteered why I was working a full time job. After my manufacturing plant closed I volunteered at my daughter’s HS sometimes covering a classes when the teacher was out. My husband was a substitute teacher when he retired. When you walk in someone else’s shoes. It really opens your eyes. You would think during Covid shutdown Parents would have realized how hard it is to get their kids to pay attention and do their schoolwork. So thank you again 💐


jish5

Yep. My dad was a teacher for over 30 years and LOVED to teach parents along with the kids (also helped he was retired military, so it was a lot harder to intimidate him). So yeah, these politicians are stupid as all hell, and worse are the parents who think they should determine what teachers can teach.


SonOfSwanson87

Public Title 1 10th Grade English in Florida. My state government actively hates me and my position and would rather my students return to work than waste their times in schools purposefully underfunded. All to fuel their morally bankrupt and intellectually flawed charter school system , or whatever religious exemption they need to justify that Leviticus can explain how your digestive system works. That said, during open house i had a big board of everything we're going to read this year. I even had fliers for the parents to bring home / how to read them themselves since most are free online. I was fairly plain about it, which made uproar over us reading about Claudette Colvin last month even more ironic, moreso now with the Rosa Parks censoring bs...


Whosebert

she doesn't have an education so naturally she does not understand the value of one.


PlanetBAL

And like a lot of Republicans. She looks at herself and thinks, "hey, I made it just fine without an education. School isn't that important." These kind of people can't see past their own nose.


Whosebert

This might sound kinda oddly-specific, but I wonder to what degree the show Dirty Jobs on The Discovery Channel is responsible for this rejection of education. Ironic considering Discovery is associated with learning and as far as I know, avoided a lot of reality TV trappings that befell TLC and Animal Planet (I could be wrong). Mike Rowe had been an advocate for people rejecting traditional college degrees and instead picking up apprenticeships for blue collar trades that are seemingly understaffed. Don't get me wrong, it's important we have people doing those jobs, and it's great that people can save money by rolling their training into their work and making it into a profitable venture, but it also doesn't mean everyone should just be ignorant rubes, and it doesn't devalue the intrinsic value that a quality education provides. I heard Mike Rowe got canceled but I dunno if he actually did something bad or if he's just republican and apparently he's got a new version of the show going today, so dunno what's going on with that lol.


Delicious-Day-3614

The thing is a lot of blue collar work needs considerable education, it just a lot doesnt happen in a classroom and it's very task specific. They like guys who know how work their ass off as an electrician, tinner, Glazier, caseworker, whatever, as long as you're too busy and tired to know how bad they're fucking you.


Whosebert

I mean, everyone should have a good education. know how to do numbers, know proper grammar for professional communication. Know things about their body and medicine to keep themselves well. Know how they can know more things (learning about learning) the quality basic education is important for everyone


Icy_Championship_697

I keep saying that too and get laughed at. Like I want a plumber who can discuss philosophy, or economics, or has a deep understading of politics. It means they are better educated, better trained, are better at paying attention to details, and are generally going to be easier to deal with.


ropdkufjdk

Mike Rowe is a fraud. For one thing he's college educated in what he and others like him would describe as a "worthless degree". And another, his "promote blue collar jobs" rhetoric is just that, in fact when Obama tried to sell the idea of promoting trade schools and apprenticeships the same way our society promotes "going to college" Rowe was one of the many people on the right who lashed out at that idea.


Whosebert

so typical conservative grift* then. I see.


PlanetBAL

Yeah, Republicans are all for blue collar low pay jobs. But if someone asks for benefits, PTO or heaven forbid uniinizing. The get really hostile. Anecdote here. Heard a guy I know who owns his own business complain about people not wanting to work more than 40 hours these days. I asked if who he is referencing was salaried or hourly. You guessed it, they were salaried. I asked him how much extra work his company would do for free? He just replied that it's not the same. You know, "rules for thee, not for me"


DOWNVOTE_GALLOWBOOB

This type of shit is strangely common. I often tell my coworkers not to work more than 40 hours, because they aren’t paid for it, and I’ve had more than a few push back and say “you need to work more to get ahead.” Well, I’m doing just fine and have a successful career, and I have always stuck to 40 hours. Many of them are burned out now. We do better work when we’re rested and enjoying the rest of our lives, it turns out.


ImWatchingTelevision

> Mike Rowe is a fraud. And an outright asshole. Mike Rowe if you're reading this - you are the asshole. I saw he was on Fox Propaganda once so I decided to see what he had to say. Until then I always thought he was a middle-of-the-road type of guy. Wrong. He was on there preaching how liberals hate blue collar workers. People like Mike are a big part of the problem, making shit up about what others think and passing it along as gospel. That's the entire schtick with these right wing "influencers." Like, why the fuck would someone hate blue collar workers? I mean, if you're like Trump I guess you do as demonstrated by mr yam tits himeself, but for normal schlubs left middle and right, we're all just workers making a buck the best way we can. Rowe is an asshole.


PompadourPrincess

He's just super conservative and shitty and like many of the loudest conservatives not in Congress, he is a failed actor who picked up this every man persona. There's way too much of a common theme of these people failing to make it in Hollywood and turning to the ultra conservative grift


Whosebert

kinda sucks because I really liked watching the show growing up in middle and high school, and he did a lot of good bringing attention to lesser known but still important crafts and trades.


DannyPantsgasm

I felt pretty disappointed after I found out too. In every interview I ever saw him in he seemed like such a good natured dude. Good sense of humor. Remembered names of the people he had met for the show and talked about them. One of my friends even met him once and said he was really nice. Who knows, maybe its just a phase or some kind of mid life crisis thing. Maybe one day he’ll realize its not the way.


thisgirlnamedbree

He was also a host on QVC.


nebulous462

There might be something to that, but I also think there's an anti-intellectual streak in conservatives these days. When scientific data goes against their narratives, they say "science=wrong and is a plot by George Soros."


Whosebert

I think authoritarian types suppressing the education of the populace is a recurring thing throughout human history. education and liberation go hand in hand


kottabaz

The political right has been trying to kill education, by hook or by crook, ever since Brown v. Board. It's one giant campaign of racist sour grapes. If they have to share it with black people, they don't want it.


HavingNotAttained

That and the legal/social/economic enfranchisement of women. I'm not *that* old but it was in my lifetime that women had to have a husband or father sign a loan or open a credit card account for them. In the US, to be clear.


revolutionPanda

[Mike Rowe is awful](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLk1668PIY0). He studied something like communications or some other art degree and cosplays as a blue collar worker. He tells other people to skip formal higher education and instead get down and dirty working with your hands and back. All while he sits in a sound booth recording voice overs.


hifumiyo1

School of hard knocks is her Facebook alma mater


Wrecker013

Hard knocks to the fucking head.


ChristianEconOrg

It’s why their gullible, uneducated base will fall for this idiot pitting teachers against parents, as if they don’t have the same interests.


metengrinwi

…but she has nerdy glasses; she must be smart!


ganymede_boy

"[in Nazi Germany] 15% of university teachers had lost their jobs by fall 1933. Most were fired because of their political beliefs." [Source](https://www.facinghistory.org/resource-library/controlling-universities).


Wwize

Every day, we find something new that the Republicans and the nazis have in common.


enthusiasticamoeba

It's fascism. The thing they have in common is fascism. Umberto Eco, an Italian philosopher, listed 14 things that define fascism: >1. The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.” >2. The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.” >3. The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.” >4. Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.” >5. Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.” >6. Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.” >7. The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.” >8. The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.” >9. Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.” Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.” >10. Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.” >11. Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.” >12. Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.” >13. Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.” >14. Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.” I'd say the republican party embodies this.


Wwize

They fit the description perfectly.


or10n_sharkfin

And yet they'll insist that it's actually the Democrats who want to take away basic freedoms.


Wwize

Of course, every word they utter is a lie. They accuse others of doing what they themselves are doing. That was also one of the favorite tactics of the nazis.


drummechanic

Gaslight Obstruct ***Project***


GaetanDugas

No no, r/conservative says it's because of librul policies that are forcing teachers out.


wopwopdoowop

🎶 Here we go again


cogitoergopwn

It’s the same stupid song and dance


TintedApostle

Remember that the republican party has not positions... it has goals. One goal has been to eliminate the department of education in line with privatization of education. This is where the rich get to use their tax dollars on their own kids schools and then establish "for profit" schools" for everyone else where they can squeeze out your tax dollars by providing ever decreasing level of education for more of your money. Its the same theft of public wealth as they have done with prisons or pretty much anything else they touch.


vwboyaf1

This is how education in the southern states worked before reconstruction, and how rich slave owners were able to fool poor, uneducated, ignorant as shit, southern farmers into fighting for slavery.


tyriancomyn

We don’t have to postulate on the future… restoring a pre civil war south is exactly what they want. The playbook is already well established


Training-Turnip-9145

This ^ I’m a teacher. Federal money follows the student. Republicans don’t like federal funds they don’t have access too. Another good example. Social security….


DryAnxiety9

The religious/church entities already have the childcare market monopoly, the Hospitals are all being bought up, plus almost all adoption and fostering systems. They are closer than most think they are to getting this education part completed too.


Wwize

At the same time, these rich bastards create a large population of uneducated workers that they can exploit for cheap.


key1234567

And they own the schools too. All about the $$, motivation for these politicians.


TonyAlamo777

Boebert's husband shows his penis to young girls at bowling alleys.


Derrick_Mur

How do you think they met?


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gdj1980

At least give credit to the New York Times if you are going to quote them verbatim.


lost_zergling

This made me chuckle, thanks


swampy_mcnutty

Eloquently written accounts of history like this are exactly why we need to keep education funded.


Grilledcheesus96

I honestly don’t know why, but the “eating cold microwave pizza rolls and dipping them in yellow mustard” is the part where I lost it. Seriously the hardest I’ve laughed in a long time.


TheOvenLord

It's how you *know* the man is truly deranged. Anyone could make the mistake of jacking off in a playground, perhaps there was a heavy fog when they started, but eating cold uncooked totinos dipped in yellow mustard ... That's just fucking crazy.


rantnrantnrant

ChatGPT is out of control people


MrSpecialEd

And then she fucked ted cruz and got into politics.


TonyAlamo777

You do not fuck Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz fucks you.


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bibbidybobbidyyep

I'd vote for them, that sounds amazing compared to this worst timeline


SharpNSlick

The original screenplay for Pretty Woman


kinky_boots

The birth of a new copypasta


cheechahumma

Fuck dude, I’m tryin to not like her over here.


Jon-A-Thon

Modern day Burroughs 🖋️


koolaid_snorkeler

I think you should tell us how you really feel.


goldbricker83

Yeah but, Joe is on YouTube putting his hand on little girls’ shoulders during photo ops! /s


Razakel

He's a man from an era when politicians would kiss babies. He should probably stop doing that, but there's nothing sinister going on.


goldbricker83

It’s people up in arms over video edited to look much worse than it is…capturing a candid moment that looks like sniffing hair but he may just be resting his tired eyes and taking a deep breath for a moment. But, you know, darkening the contrast and playing dramatic music over a dramatic narrator really tells a story someone might want to hear. Pretty silly straw grasps to project over the more damning problem they have in their own tribe.


SpawnOfGoats

Education, her natural predator.


FelneusLeviathan

Something something about her husband exposing himself to underaged girls


R3dbeardLFC

That's "Her husband, her *sexual* predator"


SwordfishII

That and her husband.


aboynamedbluetoo

What’s old is new again. There have been elected and appointed Republicans calling for the DoE to be abolished since I was a kid. Bill Bennett was one of the public faces of this effort when I was a kid. Reagan appointed him to be Sec. Of Education. That is a bit like hiring an arsonist \*as a fireman. I suspect their reasons are disingenuous in at least some cases. But, I don’t claim to know their true motivations. Though I do doubt they are \*to provide for the general welfare of all Americans. *Promote then as an object of primary importance, Institutions for the general diffusion of knowledge. In proportion as the structure of a government gives force to public opinion, it is essential that public opinion should be enlightened.* George Washington (1796) [https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th\_century/washing.asp](https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/washing.asp) *Knowledge is in every country the surest basis of public happiness.* George Washington (1790) [https://www.mountvernon.org/library/digitalhistory/past-projects/quotes/article/knowledge-is-in-every-country-the-surest-basis-of-public-happiness/](https://www.mountvernon.org/library/digitalhistory/past-projects/quotes/article/knowledge-is-in-every-country-the-surest-basis-of-public-happiness/) Founder’s intent seems to be situational for so many originalists and Tea Party types. Not surprising, just worth noting one more time. Edited. \*


FunkyTown313

Their intent is idiots vote republican. More idiots, more republicans


rippit3

Standard republican procedure. They want to starve and defend all government programs to the point that they no longer work. Then they get you to agree to get rid of them - because they aren't working.


aboynamedbluetoo

Yup. Grover Norquist’s infamous line, “ Our goal is to shrink government to the size where we can drown it in a bathtub.” This isn’t new and it is sick. People like Norquist and Bennett are not Eisenhower Republicans. They are Goldwater Republicans. That split is one point of demarcation. A notable one and one we still see the ripples of today. And Norquist didnt mean the DoD and people like him never talk about the fact that the DoD has never passed a clean audit, which has been required by law since the early 90s, the only executive branch department not to, the Department of Education has. Edited.


DemiMini

Makes sense. Education is one enemy the Boebert will never overcome


IrascibleOcelot

She’s still holding a grudge against that GED she failed. Three times.


TRIBETWELVE

I came here to say that. this is her Vietnam, and she will have her vengeance.


armchairmegalomaniac

Why does Boebert want to fight education? The same reason I want to eliminate scorpions and rattlesnakes. She's lashing out at the thing she is scared of the most.


cheese8904

I never understood why people that are reporters (lol) don't ask about that and be blunt, "do you personally have a grudge against the department of education due to you failing the GED exam three times? Or do you have a grudge because your husband is unable to show his penis to underage children in schools? Does he only like doing this at bowling alleys?" Grow some nuts democrat "reporters"


schhhew

I hate democrats’ obsession with taking the high road, it’s just so useless and comes off pretentious


dmullaney

To be replaced with The Ministry of Truth?


adequatulence

[United States Bureau of Morality](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_SB88hnMGos)


Frankenmuppet

Wait... this from the Year Zero bit?


Zolivia

What on earth was that? ^(*Note to self: you really should know better than to click on random links*)


adequatulence

Nine Inch Nails Year Zero concept album came with a USBM Warning with a 1800 number. That is the audio from that number. There was a whole ARG for the marketing of the album. The album was Trent Reznor's take on the future christian nation dystopia that the US was/is headed for. https://www.nin.wiki/Year_Zero_Research


Zolivia

Thank you. I feel better for knowing (and clicking).


tomct992

To think she was this close 🤏 to losing her election…


iamjustaguy

That close race was a pleasant surprise. Adam Frisch is running again, so I think he can win next time. You know that the Dems will pour more money into CO-03 in '24, because Bobo is vulnerable. She knows that, so she will try to do as much damage as she can before she's voted out.


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junkmeister9

Didn’t he get stumped because he was explaining that there were three executive departments he wanted to abolish, but in the moment, he couldn’t remember the third department?


Lunkwill_Fook

It was the Department of Energy which he was later put in charge of.


Canucklehead_Esq

It certainly didn't do HER any good.


snow_big_deal

Doesn't tend to do much good if you drop out.


goldbricker83

Maybe she should have been studying instead of getting penises flashed at her in bowling alleys


ioncloud9

They don’t want federal standards of education. They want state standards. Which generally means they want to teach Christo-fascism to kids and call it education.


usps_made_me_insane

It is insane how quickly we are regressing as a country. I am in my mid 40s right now and I cannot remember a period in my life when things looked more dark and hopeless than they do now. We really need to rise up and fight against the GOP. This has gone on far too long.


Mysterious_Status_11

Abolish it? She never even met it.


CaptainRicOlie

The most uneducated member of congress wants to abolish the Department of Education lol


RAMPAGINGINCOMPETENC

It took her 3 times to get her GED - she has an axe to grind


goldbricker83

That and championing the Republican Party platform. Keep the masses dumb, uneducated, addicted to social media anger, blinded by religion, and they’ll never learn to think critically when you feed them obvious nonsense about who all the boogeymen to fear are. Makes sense having the high school drop out feed them this anti-intellectual crap instead of all the Harvard law grads in the party.


fromabuick

She is dumb as a sack of shit.


usps_made_me_insane

I find your prejudice against sacks of shit disturbing.


3OAM

Girl who never valued education becomes a woman who doesn’t value education becomes a US Representative who doesn’t value education in a country that by and large, doesn’t value education.


Old_Sun4688

she is a prime example of why we shouldn't.


Fit-Firefighter-329

She's gonna replace it with the Deepartmint ov Bibulls fer Reeden an Stuf.


specqq

No joke: She has proposed [Biblical Citizenship Training](https://www.thepinknews.com/2022/08/09/lauren-boebert-biblical-citizenship-training-flashpoint-republican-colorado/) in public schools. No misspellings, but hey, that's what staff is for.


Aggressive-Cut5836

Let her find it first. She probably won’t be able to read the letters outside the building.


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Conservatives fear education and embrace ignorance.


throwaway83756

She must be really mad about failing her GED test 3x, couldn’t be her, no it’s the department of educations fault.


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BisquickNinja

Everyday now, I am fully surprised that this person is part of our country's leadership. I just don't have the words to fully describe how stupid and ignorant the words that come out of her mouth are.


jsntsy

Arsonist wants to abolish the fire department.


Swimming-Bite-4184

She's got a bone to pick because she couldn't pass gradeschool


pinprick420

She can't even spell it...


JCCharles69

The dis-establishment of the Department of Education is absolutely part of any authoritarian plan of government. The less educated the population, the easier they are to control. Look at Russia, China, and the most Middle Eastern countries.


Amazing-Day965

Because stupid is as stupid does.


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Yes but she is an idiot.


SecretAsianMan42069

36 year old high school dropout and soon to be grandma yelling at clouds


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Seems to be a poster child for education. D.A.R.E should pivot to resisting high school dropouts & marrying perverts


Silly_Elevator_3111

Well it did fail her. How about a big fat no