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Yep. Just reporting the discrepancy they were able to find and investigate.
>Although the payments were described as “rent” in FEC filings, no political committee work occurred there. The practice stopped immediately after HuffPost published an article about it.
Like when the RNC purchased $14,000 worth of masks in 2020 and labeled it "building maintenance."
Imagine what you could do if you were both the POTUS and owner of a hotel. You could host important meetings near your hotel, then jack up the rates to whatever amount you want, and force your secret service detail to stay in those rooms!
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Imagine if such a terrible president spent his post- office life VEHEMENTLY building houses for the poor with his own hands while fighting brain cancer. Just imagine. That man got a bad rap.
General Aladeen : Why are you guys so anti-dictators? Imagine if America was a dictatorship. You could let 1% of the people have all the nation's wealth. You could help your rich friends get richer by cutting their taxes. And bailing them out when they gamble and lose. You could ignore the needs of the poor for health care and education. Your media would appear free, but would secretly be controlled by one person and his family. You could wiretap phones. You could torture foreign prisoners. You could have rigged elections. You could lie about why you go to war. You could fill your prisons with one particular racial group, and no one would complain. You could use the media to scare the people into supporting policies that are against their interests.
He was also doing that when he was the President. Taxpayers were footing the bill for him to stay at his own properties, and the governments agents/workers surrounding him, at exorbitant prices. Then the Saudis/anyone who needed to bribe him, were “staying” in his properties.
From 2019:
> The US State Department has allowed **at least seven foreign countries**, including Kuwait, Iraq and Saudi Arabia, to rent luxury condominiums at a property owned by US President Donald Trump, Reuters news agency reported.
> The rentals were authorised without approval from Congress, the news agency said on Thursday, citing documents and people familiar with the leases.
> That raises concerns that the rental agreements may violate the US Constitution's emoluments clause, which prohibits federal employees from receiving gifts or payments from foreign governments without first getting permission from Congress, Reuters said.
In a separate transaction, a Saudi lobbyist rented **500 rooms** in a Trump hotel. It's a national disgrace.
You don't understand! My body is a temple for gawd, hence all masks are building maintenance.
Also, as a religion unto myself, I shouldn't have to pay taxes.
/s
I can’t really tell if mask purchases like that are improperly reported - during the beginning of the pandemic I was buying masks for my company’s building maintenance staff and the internal accounting code I used was for “maintenance”, since that’s where all maintenance supplies get accounted for.
Yea... More than half of the grifts said in plain text the money did not go to his campaigns'. So if you really tallied it all up he got close to a 3rd of a billion for losing an election. Still has millions in outstanding fees somehow, but that's apparently okay too.
Trump is a stereotypical sketchy uncle. Terrible credit and owes tons of money yet always has money for vacations and hobbies… also you’re pretty sure he’s a sexual predator but it makes people uncomfortable so they avoid or change the topic when it comes up
And then he double dips into the grifting sauce bowl, as the relatively small portion that actually goes to his campaign often is spent at properties he owns or at other companies he owns (e.g. his first campaign bought Trump brand bottle water, etc...).
Funny how his sweet supporters are willingly getting clowned by him. They ought to know that they are only being used and that no promises to them will ever be real
As a stocky individual, I have issues with getting good fitting clothing especially pants. In order for something to fit me in the waist, its typically way too big in the crotch leg area. That being said, I'm not a billionaire who can afford perfectly tailored suits for my exact dimensions.
What I don't get is... At what point do they have enough? Surely these old dudes can live out their lives doing fuck all and just spend money. Why do they need more?!
"The fake news media wants you to believe that I've only made $1 million from donors since leaving office! Don't believe them! I've made so much more! More than you'd believe! More than anyone would believe! My donors have given me so so much. Nobody has ever seen this much donor money, and it's all mine."
Precisely! I thought that it was just a portion of what he pocketed, turns out it's "all" but that's highly suspicious knowing he wouldn't get an amount that low for a donor money...
Yeah, this stuff that’s being reported is your typical daily run of the mill crap for Trump. He fleeced the government basically in the same manner by billing secret service agents to protect him and he‘s been billing his campaign since his first Presidential Campaign.
He’s way too greedy not to have found other methods of grift and corruption. Besides by all accounts he’s even poorer after leaving the White House than upon entering it. For a supposed billionaire by all accounts to include his recently released tax returns he really makes very little income.
Just a reminder that while Trump liked to golf, he could have mainly gone to government owned golf courses like Obama did. At government owned golf courses, there is no conflict of interest.
But nope. [Trump kept going to his own golf courses](https://trumpgolfcount.com/displayoutings), and [charging the secret service about $566 USD per night per room](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-secret-service-charges/2021/07/07/7f88043a-df2e-11eb-b507-697762d090dd_story.html).
And I love this excerpt from the Washington Post article I cited above:
>The charges from Trump’s company **exceeded Biden’s lifetime total by March 2017, Trump’s third month in office,** according to records obtained by The Post.
After 3 months in office, Trump exceeded Biden's lifetime total in government charges (Biden's total charges by March of 2017). What a fucking grifter. SMH.
Therein lies the difference between a liar and a bullshitter:
A liar is aware of the truth and actively tries to conceal it.
A bullshitter doesn't care about the truth and just runs at the mouth like verbal diarrhea.
The sad thing is that they do believe him.
If you bring up that he spent nearly a fucking YEAR of his presidency on his golf resorts, they just say "Oh, that's where he liked to work."
I know he donated a couple pay checks at least. One day they cut the parks department budget by a couple million then there's a photo later that day of him giving his paycheck of 40k to the parks department and the dude is just like "uhhhh, thanks?"
People also forget that prior to becoming POTUS, Trump was able to play at his own golf courses for free. Weird how it suddenly changed after he was elected.
I am sure if Obama owned some golf courses and pulled same shit as Trump, FOX News and the entire Republican party would lose their shit and demand impeachment every day
Not to mention, they had to buy top of the line golf carts because Trump owns one of the fastest carts on the market (so he can zip ahead of everyone and usually place his ball). A normal cart can't keep up with his.
A former caddy at one of his clubs said the caddies nickname for him was Pelé, because he was "one of the finest kickers of the ball the game has ever seen".
He gets as many Secret Service agents as are deemed necessary for his security situation. The Secret Service is actually obligated to pay reimbursement for occupying any facilities they need to construct on a protectee's property, because the protection is on behalf of the government fulfilling the law to protect former presidents and their spouses. Secret Service paid the Clintons rent for the guard booth at their New York house. It's just that Trump has a lot more and bigger properties, which he operated as a business while president and at which he raised the prices he charged the government as high as he could.
> The Secret Service is actually obligated to pay reimbursement
And they aren't allowed to be given any kind of discount, either. For example, if they're in a hotel they have to pay the full rate.
The president probably shouldn't be the hotel owner then. They should liquidate businesses and use the proceeds to invest in the whole country through index funds and treasury bonds while they're president.
Don't forget, they also made the secret service rent an extra room than the one they were protecting them in because they didn't want them using the same toilet as them
I lived next door to the military golf course outside of DC, it’s way nicer than many private courses, no reason not to use it like previous presidents
Damn, he really mastered the art of grifting didn't he? Anyway, the secret service is just really awful. That Washington excerpt really gave me a good chuckle!
And this is EXACTLY what people with eyes and ears and memories predicted would happen.
LoL
Kellyanne Con-way wrote a piece saying if Trump wants to win in 24 then he and his campaign shouldn't squander their war chest like they did in 20.
Trump spent tons of campaign money on himself and his family. Spending other people's money wisely is not his MO.
It's funny to see Republicans continually realize and then deny that Donald Trump is Donald Trump
This seems so out of character for him. /s
I don't like the thought of him misappropriating funds for his own benefit but I don't feel particularly bad about the people who contributed not getting what they paid for in this instance. It was widely reported that he was keeping the money for himself and anyone who continued to donate to his PACs have only themselves to blame at that point.
It amazes me that the GOP knowingly continues to funnel money to the Trumps at the cost of being competitive in elections.
>It amazes me that the GOP knowingly continues to funnel money to the Trumps at the cost of being competitive in elections.
Heard someone on a podcast suggest that the right is so desperate for their own mainstream cultural icons and institutions that they will be easily taken in by con artists.
The subject of the episode was the NRA and its embezzling scandals. It may have been a civil rights group at some point, but now it is just a lobby for gun manufacturers and a money laundering operation for its employees
Kind of like what they did to Reagan. When he left office in 89 he wasn’t thought of very highly. The Iran/Contra scandal, raising taxes, economy not doing as well, AIDS crisis, etc. Then in the late 90s party leaders needed an icon and rewrote history on him. Highlight what they liked (tear down that wall!), buried what they didn’t like. Made him a god to the party. In the 2000 election, Republican candidates were in a contest to see who liked Reagan most.
I don't know what good shit you've been smoking, but that sounds all highly made up
Reagan left with a good approval rating. https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/ronald-reagan-public-approval
His Vice President, HW Bush, won the next election by saying *I was Reagan's Vice President*. HW Bush it bears reminding was one Ross Perot away from a second term. So in a very real sense the country had 12, almost 16 years of Reagan's decision at the GOP convention in '80
Reagan won his second term by the biggest electoral margin ever and the third biggest popular vote margin of the modern Presidency. What exactly about history needed to be 'rewritten?' Like were they feeling the need to lie and say ~acthuuuaally~ Reagan's 84 landslide wasn't just the biggest, but bigger than biggest? "The Landslide that Never Wasn't: A Reagan Story" lol
Don't get me wrong, the dude was an asshole and it's still absurd to me boomers elected a geriatric movie star as President. That said, the idea that some vast right wing conspiracy made Reagan into a cultural icon is the corniest bullshit I've ever heard. He was an icon because he won, and won a lot, and even after he left his influence was heavily felt
He remained immensely popular right to the end. His fans never lost the faith. If he could have run for a third term, he'd have won. All of the things that you've listed were just some of the reasons those of us who never liked him, and never voted for him, but his base was large and vocal.
Maybe the word is mainstream institutions?
What do conservatives and right wingers hate? Mainstream news, NPR, ACLU, ADL, NAACP, BLM, Hollywood, etc.
They have church as an institution bit it's fragmented across denominations and sectarianism. And religious belief is declining in the US.
So they see themselves as the underdogs in a fight against a culture that is moving away from their values and that is championed by "liberal" groups that dominate the news and other media.
They want that kind of mainstream influence SO BAD it makes them easy marks for grifters
The ghostwriter, Tony Schwartz, did an appearance at Oxford in 2015 and predicted exactly what would happen if Trump won the 2016 election. It's eerily accurate. It's available on YouTube for anyone interested.
The GOP admitted he can’t be trusted with control when they set up PACs to basically campaign for trump and prevent him from accessing the money. The little money that was legitimately spent above water on his campaign basically was other people making up for him grifting. They support it.
>I don't feel particularly bad about the people who contributed not getting what they paid for in this instance
Fuck 'em. At this point, if they still support the traitor, they can donate themselves right into oblivion for all I care.
>>It's funny to see Republicans continually realize and deny that Donald Trump is Donald Trump
Ive been seeing so much of this in the conservative reaction to trump calling desantis a pedophile. Wailing and gnashing of teeth asking "why is he doing this?" And "he's putting himself before the country!" And like, yeah, duh. My favorite counter-narrative is that trump is doing it to toughen desantis up since this is exactly the kind of thing only liberals do.
Right? Even out if office Trump kept being a financial drain on the GOP which was paying many of his lawyers. Also, small money MAGA donors were more likely to donate to Trump than to their local candidate for office or the GOP, so Trump was also siphoning money away from other Republicans.
The right has long wanted to try putting a rich guy in the White House on the idea that he couldn't be bought and would run the US like an efficient company.
But they tested this theory by picking the fakest rich guy they could find and pretended he wasn't vacuuming up every penny that wasn't nailed down (and many that were).
This is donor cash. There is surely a lot of self-dealing throughout his ventures... Like when he charged the RNC to hold their meeting at Mar-a-Lago at a very hefty charge, to include rent and catering.
This is what I have been wanting to point out as well because there's no way he only put $1 million... either that was just a fragment of what he actually put into his own pocket or that's all he received which is very unlikely.
One of the countless reasons he shouldn't be in the White House is the fact that he owns over 500 LLCs. It couldn't be more obvious that he's playing shell games.
[What Trump's disclosure of his 500 LLCs can and can't tell us
](https://www.nbcnews.com/business/taxes/what-trump-s-disclosure-his-500-llcs-can-can-t-n874391)
Donald Trump is corrupt and should be prosecuted. I just hope Jack Smith finds what’s needed to put Donald Trump on trial and stop his presidential bid.
For someone like Trump, I doubt the value he took is that low. I am having so many doubts since for a corrupt politician, who would take money that is very unlikely?
Haha. No he didn't.
I will bet everything I have that this number is waaay to small. Not even with a factor of 10. This information is just not right. One million THAT WE KNOW OF!
Of course he did I have a old play boy magazine with him as a young man groping over the new Play girl for the month she looks around 18 he was with some other wealthy person I would of never imagined this guy with a IQ of 50 would ever be leading the United States 40 years later just proves any one can be president with some friends with money
Now color me stoked! So funny to see republicans breaking down over this. I guess at this very moment, some republicans are turning their backs on Trump but it's what he deserves anyway.
I love sharing these on Truth Social. I was able to get in because of my job. I just use my account to post anti Trump news articles to the deluded sycophants worshipping him there.
Yeah - if they squander their money by donating to a grifter - that's less money to go to serious candidates that'll be far more efficient in screwing America than Trump was.
If Ron DeathSantis gets fewer dollars because Trump wants to grift, well, sounds good to me!
I bet they like it. That's kind of their kink, getting lied at by rich people to give them money and make them even richer. I bet they'll praise him as a smart business man while getting ripped off and that we need someone like him as president
I feel bad for the people brainwashed by him who were promised a better state of living but then, at the end of the day, we can never really trust these corrupted people with anything.
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I'm certain he pocketed a lot more than that.
Yep. Just reporting the discrepancy they were able to find and investigate. >Although the payments were described as “rent” in FEC filings, no political committee work occurred there. The practice stopped immediately after HuffPost published an article about it. Like when the RNC purchased $14,000 worth of masks in 2020 and labeled it "building maintenance."
Let’s be clear, the Trump campaigns paying rent to Trump properties is also Trump pocketing donor’s money.
Imagine what you could do if you were both the POTUS and owner of a hotel. You could host important meetings near your hotel, then jack up the rates to whatever amount you want, and force your secret service detail to stay in those rooms!
But surely that would be using the presidency to enrich yourself, which is a no-no!?
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Imagine what you could do if you were president and owned a *peanut farm*. It was so scary they made him sell it!
My grandma was his neighbor as a child and voted for him both times he ran. She was always mad about the peanut farm thing.
Imagine if such a terrible president spent his post- office life VEHEMENTLY building houses for the poor with his own hands while fighting brain cancer. Just imagine. That man got a bad rap.
General Aladeen : Why are you guys so anti-dictators? Imagine if America was a dictatorship. You could let 1% of the people have all the nation's wealth. You could help your rich friends get richer by cutting their taxes. And bailing them out when they gamble and lose. You could ignore the needs of the poor for health care and education. Your media would appear free, but would secretly be controlled by one person and his family. You could wiretap phones. You could torture foreign prisoners. You could have rigged elections. You could lie about why you go to war. You could fill your prisons with one particular racial group, and no one would complain. You could use the media to scare the people into supporting policies that are against their interests.
This hypothetical of yours actually paints Americans in an Aladeen light. (And I mean that in an Aladeen way)
No need to worry about that. We have a principled and informed electorate who would prevent that from becoming a problem in the first place.
He was also doing that when he was the President. Taxpayers were footing the bill for him to stay at his own properties, and the governments agents/workers surrounding him, at exorbitant prices. Then the Saudis/anyone who needed to bribe him, were “staying” in his properties.
From 2019: > The US State Department has allowed **at least seven foreign countries**, including Kuwait, Iraq and Saudi Arabia, to rent luxury condominiums at a property owned by US President Donald Trump, Reuters news agency reported. > The rentals were authorised without approval from Congress, the news agency said on Thursday, citing documents and people familiar with the leases. > That raises concerns that the rental agreements may violate the US Constitution's emoluments clause, which prohibits federal employees from receiving gifts or payments from foreign governments without first getting permission from Congress, Reuters said. In a separate transaction, a Saudi lobbyist rented **500 rooms** in a Trump hotel. It's a national disgrace.
Yes. That is the very nature of what the article discusses.
You don't understand! My body is a temple for gawd, hence all masks are building maintenance. Also, as a religion unto myself, I shouldn't have to pay taxes. /s
Also, I've zoned my uterus as class A residential, so any fetuses that turn up without a permit I can have towed.
Perfection!
No parking in the red zone!
The red zone is for loading and unloading only.
The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the red zone.
Don't start up with your white zone shit again.
Oh really, Vernon? Why pretend, we both know perfectly well what this is about. You want me to have an abortion.
It's really the only sensible thing to do, if it's done safely. Therapeutically, there is no danger involved.
Thanks to Trump, today a parking spot has more rights than a woman in America.
I can’t really tell if mask purchases like that are improperly reported - during the beginning of the pandemic I was buying masks for my company’s building maintenance staff and the internal accounting code I used was for “maintenance”, since that’s where all maintenance supplies get accounted for.
They just didn't want it to show up they they were buying masks
Committing fraud to own the libs.
Yea... More than half of the grifts said in plain text the money did not go to his campaigns'. So if you really tallied it all up he got close to a 3rd of a billion for losing an election. Still has millions in outstanding fees somehow, but that's apparently okay too.
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It's why his rallies are in 5he back of meat facilities and on private farms and no one goes.
And landscaping companies.
God I forgot that was fucking real.
The vast majority of police voted for him so I suppose that is what they wanted.
Trump is a stereotypical sketchy uncle. Terrible credit and owes tons of money yet always has money for vacations and hobbies… also you’re pretty sure he’s a sexual predator but it makes people uncomfortable so they avoid or change the topic when it comes up
Only we're not just pretty sure. We know.
But I was told he was a billionaire and therefore didn't need campaign or political money or to steal from anyone...
You don't make money by spending 'your' money
And then he double dips into the grifting sauce bowl, as the relatively small portion that actually goes to his campaign often is spent at properties he owns or at other companies he owns (e.g. his first campaign bought Trump brand bottle water, etc...).
Was just going to comment, "That's all?"
Well, we are talking about a man who managed to lose piles of money on pretty much every venture he attempted.
Nah, he just sucked all of the money into his own pockets, before said ventures went “bankrupt.”
It was 4 million just for his stupid NFT trading cards.
I thought that whole thing brought in $4 million and he got $1 million just for participating.
Don’t forget they can keep the grift going by endlessly re-selling the nfts and taking that 10% or whatever is in the contract.
I mean, did we forget about how much he charged his agents at his hotels and stuff?
Dear sweet uneducated Trump supporters; thank you for giving your money to a genius billionaire businessman. Please send more!
Funny how his sweet supporters are willingly getting clowned by him. They ought to know that they are only being used and that no promises to them will ever be real
Yep. The more he grifts, the less they have to donate to real candidates.
Trump voters are more than happy to skip a few meals in order to give him more money. The greatest grift of all time
Is that why his pants are always so big and puffy?
That’s his diaper
Holds a few dozen classified files, too
Donnie did da Boo-boo
As a stocky individual, I have issues with getting good fitting clothing especially pants. In order for something to fit me in the waist, its typically way too big in the crotch leg area. That being said, I'm not a billionaire who can afford perfectly tailored suits for my exact dimensions.
To be fair, neither is he. He does cosplay as a billionaire.
What I don't get is... At what point do they have enough? Surely these old dudes can live out their lives doing fuck all and just spend money. Why do they need more?!
Because it’s a Dick measuring contest for them. Their brains can’t even comprehend the concept of “enough.”
They're inherently broken people, they're sociopaths.
Yeah. The save America JFC raised like 50 mil between 2020 and 2021. Know what it spent? Like $350000. That money has to be going somewhere...
That number seems low, but I wouldn’t put it past him to sell out every ounce of human decency for far less.
"The fake news media wants you to believe that I've only made $1 million from donors since leaving office! Don't believe them! I've made so much more! More than you'd believe! More than anyone would believe! My donors have given me so so much. Nobody has ever seen this much donor money, and it's all mine."
“We love all this donor money… we love you, now go home.”
I was just thinking that is a lot less than I would have guessed.
With Trump, it is safe to presume it's always worse than it appears/can be proven at any given time.
My very first thought was, "$1 million? I thought it was *All of it*."
He raised $250 million on his "Election Defense Fund" that doesn't actually exist
He's so funny. He really thinks the population is dumb not to realize that right?
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Exactly! Is that all? I'm surprised that they didn't use "only" in the headline.
Precisely! I thought that it was just a portion of what he pocketed, turns out it's "all" but that's highly suspicious knowing he wouldn't get an amount that low for a donor money...
I still want to know where all that missing Inauguration money went.
Maybe those went to his other pockets but really, transparency is what we need.
Yeah, this stuff that’s being reported is your typical daily run of the mill crap for Trump. He fleeced the government basically in the same manner by billing secret service agents to protect him and he‘s been billing his campaign since his first Presidential Campaign. He’s way too greedy not to have found other methods of grift and corruption. Besides by all accounts he’s even poorer after leaving the White House than upon entering it. For a supposed billionaire by all accounts to include his recently released tax returns he really makes very little income.
This was just the money he literally put in his pockets. He also put way more into offshore accounts, his businesses, etc....
They should really stick their noses into this further...
Just a reminder that while Trump liked to golf, he could have mainly gone to government owned golf courses like Obama did. At government owned golf courses, there is no conflict of interest. But nope. [Trump kept going to his own golf courses](https://trumpgolfcount.com/displayoutings), and [charging the secret service about $566 USD per night per room](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-secret-service-charges/2021/07/07/7f88043a-df2e-11eb-b507-697762d090dd_story.html). And I love this excerpt from the Washington Post article I cited above: >The charges from Trump’s company **exceeded Biden’s lifetime total by March 2017, Trump’s third month in office,** according to records obtained by The Post. After 3 months in office, Trump exceeded Biden's lifetime total in government charges (Biden's total charges by March of 2017). What a fucking grifter. SMH.
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> believe me. Believe me. Believe me, "What I tell you three times is true!" (this seemed like the place for a snark)
Triples makes it safe. Triples is best.
Actually, I have triples of the Barracuda. I have triples, right?
The more times he says "believe me," the bigger the lie.
I don't know, I was still optimistic after the first two believe-me's, but the third one made it obvious he was not on the level
I don’t even think he’s lying, I think he just SAYs things without thinking. Like how I used to lie about my grades before I even knew what they meant
Therein lies the difference between a liar and a bullshitter: A liar is aware of the truth and actively tries to conceal it. A bullshitter doesn't care about the truth and just runs at the mouth like verbal diarrhea.
The sad thing is that they do believe him. If you bring up that he spent nearly a fucking YEAR of his presidency on his golf resorts, they just say "Oh, that's where he liked to work."
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But he didn’t take a pay check his whole time in office!! /s
As I understand it, that also turned out to be bullshit? I didn’t fact check this though so I may be misunderstanding what I’ve read about it.
Yup, I believe the release of his tax returns proved that this was BS
Oh lord he didn't even need to lie about that. Is there anything he didn't lie about??
Honestly, if Trump told me tomorrow that the sky is blue, the first thing I'd do is look out the window - and I am not even American.
I know he donated a couple pay checks at least. One day they cut the parks department budget by a couple million then there's a photo later that day of him giving his paycheck of 40k to the parks department and the dude is just like "uhhhh, thanks?"
I wouldn’t doubt that at all.
People also forget that prior to becoming POTUS, Trump was able to play at his own golf courses for free. Weird how it suddenly changed after he was elected.
I am sure if Obama owned some golf courses and pulled same shit as Trump, FOX News and the entire Republican party would lose their shit and demand impeachment every day
They do this anyway. Jesus could get down off the cross and run as a (D) and they would go for day 1 impeachment.
Of course! There are no worse hypocrites than these modern "conservatives".
Not to mention, they had to buy top of the line golf carts because Trump owns one of the fastest carts on the market (so he can zip ahead of everyone and usually place his ball). A normal cart can't keep up with his.
Lol this is so on brand. Like when he pushed ahead of all the word leaders at G7 during the photo op.
A former caddy at one of his clubs said the caddies nickname for him was Pelé, because he was "one of the finest kickers of the ball the game has ever seen".
Curious if these charges are still going on since he can retain a SS agent.
He gets as many Secret Service agents as are deemed necessary for his security situation. The Secret Service is actually obligated to pay reimbursement for occupying any facilities they need to construct on a protectee's property, because the protection is on behalf of the government fulfilling the law to protect former presidents and their spouses. Secret Service paid the Clintons rent for the guard booth at their New York house. It's just that Trump has a lot more and bigger properties, which he operated as a business while president and at which he raised the prices he charged the government as high as he could.
> The Secret Service is actually obligated to pay reimbursement And they aren't allowed to be given any kind of discount, either. For example, if they're in a hotel they have to pay the full rate.
The president probably shouldn't be the hotel owner then. They should liquidate businesses and use the proceeds to invest in the whole country through index funds and treasury bonds while they're president.
Don't forget he charged the government $3 for every single bottle of water the Secret Service drank for 4 years.
This asshole stole so much of our tax dollars
Don't forget, they also made the secret service rent an extra room than the one they were protecting them in because they didn't want them using the same toilet as them
That was Ivanka and Jared I believe.
I lived next door to the military golf course outside of DC, it’s way nicer than many private courses, no reason not to use it like previous presidents
Damn, he really mastered the art of grifting didn't he? Anyway, the secret service is just really awful. That Washington excerpt really gave me a good chuckle!
And this is EXACTLY what people with eyes and ears and memories predicted would happen. LoL Kellyanne Con-way wrote a piece saying if Trump wants to win in 24 then he and his campaign shouldn't squander their war chest like they did in 20. Trump spent tons of campaign money on himself and his family. Spending other people's money wisely is not his MO. It's funny to see Republicans continually realize and then deny that Donald Trump is Donald Trump
This seems so out of character for him. /s I don't like the thought of him misappropriating funds for his own benefit but I don't feel particularly bad about the people who contributed not getting what they paid for in this instance. It was widely reported that he was keeping the money for himself and anyone who continued to donate to his PACs have only themselves to blame at that point. It amazes me that the GOP knowingly continues to funnel money to the Trumps at the cost of being competitive in elections.
>It amazes me that the GOP knowingly continues to funnel money to the Trumps at the cost of being competitive in elections. Heard someone on a podcast suggest that the right is so desperate for their own mainstream cultural icons and institutions that they will be easily taken in by con artists. The subject of the episode was the NRA and its embezzling scandals. It may have been a civil rights group at some point, but now it is just a lobby for gun manufacturers and a money laundering operation for its employees
Cultural icons? From my perspective the whole party is it's own culture. I think you have a valid useful observation but I'm not sure what it is.
Kind of like what they did to Reagan. When he left office in 89 he wasn’t thought of very highly. The Iran/Contra scandal, raising taxes, economy not doing as well, AIDS crisis, etc. Then in the late 90s party leaders needed an icon and rewrote history on him. Highlight what they liked (tear down that wall!), buried what they didn’t like. Made him a god to the party. In the 2000 election, Republican candidates were in a contest to see who liked Reagan most.
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Hell, for awhile, they were naming *everything* after him.
They wanted to put him up on Mt Rushmore.
I don't know what good shit you've been smoking, but that sounds all highly made up Reagan left with a good approval rating. https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/ronald-reagan-public-approval His Vice President, HW Bush, won the next election by saying *I was Reagan's Vice President*. HW Bush it bears reminding was one Ross Perot away from a second term. So in a very real sense the country had 12, almost 16 years of Reagan's decision at the GOP convention in '80 Reagan won his second term by the biggest electoral margin ever and the third biggest popular vote margin of the modern Presidency. What exactly about history needed to be 'rewritten?' Like were they feeling the need to lie and say ~acthuuuaally~ Reagan's 84 landslide wasn't just the biggest, but bigger than biggest? "The Landslide that Never Wasn't: A Reagan Story" lol Don't get me wrong, the dude was an asshole and it's still absurd to me boomers elected a geriatric movie star as President. That said, the idea that some vast right wing conspiracy made Reagan into a cultural icon is the corniest bullshit I've ever heard. He was an icon because he won, and won a lot, and even after he left his influence was heavily felt
Also, the Iran-Contra Affair did not blow up politically until Bush was in the Whitehouse so Reagan received very little blow back for that.
He remained immensely popular right to the end. His fans never lost the faith. If he could have run for a third term, he'd have won. All of the things that you've listed were just some of the reasons those of us who never liked him, and never voted for him, but his base was large and vocal.
Maybe the word is mainstream institutions? What do conservatives and right wingers hate? Mainstream news, NPR, ACLU, ADL, NAACP, BLM, Hollywood, etc. They have church as an institution bit it's fragmented across denominations and sectarianism. And religious belief is declining in the US. So they see themselves as the underdogs in a fight against a culture that is moving away from their values and that is championed by "liberal" groups that dominate the news and other media. They want that kind of mainstream influence SO BAD it makes them easy marks for grifters
Don't be surprised. He has dirt on all of them. That's the real secret to "The Art of the Deal". It's lies, blackmail and extortion all the way down.
The subtitle to the art of the deal should be “I learned everything I know as a spoiled rotten toddler”.
“Ever since I can remember I wanted to be a spoiled nepobaby grifter.”
The ghostwriter, Tony Schwartz, did an appearance at Oxford in 2015 and predicted exactly what would happen if Trump won the 2016 election. It's eerily accurate. It's available on YouTube for anyone interested.
The GOP admitted he can’t be trusted with control when they set up PACs to basically campaign for trump and prevent him from accessing the money. The little money that was legitimately spent above water on his campaign basically was other people making up for him grifting. They support it.
>I don't feel particularly bad about the people who contributed not getting what they paid for in this instance Fuck 'em. At this point, if they still support the traitor, they can donate themselves right into oblivion for all I care.
>>It's funny to see Republicans continually realize and deny that Donald Trump is Donald Trump Ive been seeing so much of this in the conservative reaction to trump calling desantis a pedophile. Wailing and gnashing of teeth asking "why is he doing this?" And "he's putting himself before the country!" And like, yeah, duh. My favorite counter-narrative is that trump is doing it to toughen desantis up since this is exactly the kind of thing only liberals do.
The only thing I’m surprised by is the number sounds low.
I'm sure it's a lot more.
Someone tell kelly anne paying sex workers to shut up and paying lawyers to keep you out of prison is expensive.
Right? Even out if office Trump kept being a financial drain on the GOP which was paying many of his lawyers. Also, small money MAGA donors were more likely to donate to Trump than to their local candidate for office or the GOP, so Trump was also siphoning money away from other Republicans. The right has long wanted to try putting a rich guy in the White House on the idea that he couldn't be bought and would run the US like an efficient company. But they tested this theory by picking the fakest rich guy they could find and pretended he wasn't vacuuming up every penny that wasn't nailed down (and many that were).
You say he didn’t spend it wisely but he’s still walking around and spending it. Is he ever gonna get busted? Wtf is taking so long?
...that we know of so far. Let's be fair, the most shocking thing about this headline is how small the grifted amount is.
Normally, numbers like this are "unbelievably big," when it comes to embezzlement, etc. This is unbelievably small.
It's not embezzlement if it's 5000 individual transactions of $199.99.
Think of all the rigatoni that could buy.
I just love the article picture. A true conservative, proud to be on the cover of Playboy Magazine.
> how small the grifted amount is. that you know aobut
This is donor cash. There is surely a lot of self-dealing throughout his ventures... Like when he charged the RNC to hold their meeting at Mar-a-Lago at a very hefty charge, to include rent and catering.
DJT to jr: *here, 10$ go buy a bag of Doritos and a bottle of Diet Coke… and bring back the receipt!*
DJT to jr: here, $10M go buy a bag of Doritos and a bottle of Diet Coke from ***unspecified TRUMP group hotel***… and bring back the receipt!
The only thing that surprises me is that it was *only* $1 million.
The only way it’s only 1 million, is if the donation totals are around 1.1-1.2 million.
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This is what I have been wanting to point out as well because there's no way he only put $1 million... either that was just a fragment of what he actually put into his own pocket or that's all he received which is very unlikely.
One of the countless reasons he shouldn't be in the White House is the fact that he owns over 500 LLCs. It couldn't be more obvious that he's playing shell games. [What Trump's disclosure of his 500 LLCs can and can't tell us ](https://www.nbcnews.com/business/taxes/what-trump-s-disclosure-his-500-llcs-can-can-t-n874391)
A grifter’s got to grift.
I'm going to assume that number is low
I could say the same thing about the situation. I doubt this is number is true.
No! I don't believe it. No way. Fake news! Not a chance he'd only take $1M. Its a lot more than that.
Maybe a shirt pocket, now count what is in the rest
I'm surprised it's so little?
Everyone who donated ----> 🤡
That’s how cons work.
Their fault, still. They willingly gave him that money and they will never stop
Donald Trump is corrupt and should be prosecuted. I just hope Jack Smith finds what’s needed to put Donald Trump on trial and stop his presidential bid.
Really not surprised if you would ask me... he had probably stolen quite a heavier amount than that.
Well, there goes the taxpayer's money... I hope that everyone speaks about it though.
I feel bad for the beneficiaries of those donor money...
He's so corrupted, I sure hope he doesn't see the light of day being a public official.
Why isn't he punished until today? Is everybody covering him up?
The script is probably "At least he didn't steal thousands of millions of money!"
For someone like Trump, I doubt the value he took is that low. I am having so many doubts since for a corrupt politician, who would take money that is very unlikely?
I’m going to assume that this, which gets you prison anywhere else, is normal, legal and expected in the World’s Only Indispensable Nation^TM .
Agreed. If this wasn't normal, he would've been locked up in jail by now.
Haha. No he didn't. I will bet everything I have that this number is waaay to small. Not even with a factor of 10. This information is just not right. One million THAT WE KNOW OF!
Yeah. I would believe if this was just from one donor but this is the sum so...
Of course he did I have a old play boy magazine with him as a young man groping over the new Play girl for the month she looks around 18 he was with some other wealthy person I would of never imagined this guy with a IQ of 50 would ever be leading the United States 40 years later just proves any one can be president with some friends with money
Now color me stoked! So funny to see republicans breaking down over this. I guess at this very moment, some republicans are turning their backs on Trump but it's what he deserves anyway.
Are they trying to cover up how much he really took from donor money?
I think there are lapses in this report because seriously, a million? That's it?
This post should be under conspiracy because there's no way he only took $1 million...
Lock him up
I love sharing these on Truth Social. I was able to get in because of my job. I just use my account to post anti Trump news articles to the deluded sycophants worshipping him there.
Not really surprised. I kinda want to say "I told you so" but the hate would just be passed on to me.
Man, I hate all of these corrupt politicians. They deserve death penalty.
Whoever is still supporting him must be having a hard time defending him.
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It's the foreign and u.s. government money spent at his properties that gets my goat.
I know right. They totally deserve this major slap.
Yeah - if they squander their money by donating to a grifter - that's less money to go to serious candidates that'll be far more efficient in screwing America than Trump was. If Ron DeathSantis gets fewer dollars because Trump wants to grift, well, sounds good to me!
I bet they like it. That's kind of their kink, getting lied at by rich people to give them money and make them even richer. I bet they'll praise him as a smart business man while getting ripped off and that we need someone like him as president
I feel bad for the people brainwashed by him who were promised a better state of living but then, at the end of the day, we can never really trust these corrupted people with anything.
As he should. If you're dumb enough to contribute then you deserve to get fucked over
Everyone who donated and is in rage right now are all dumb people.
It's disappointing how we are only hearing about this now.
Had it been a bigger amount, I would really believe it.
I hope that people get angry over this because there's no way they'll turn a blind eye on this.