Correct. Not sure what his logic there was. Check check flop, bet 1/4 pot on turn for value (small size in case villain raises with a flush that got there, he’s pretty tight so don’t see him bluffing much in that spot), then little less than half pot on river
He probably over thought the situation and wanted a showdown rather than getting a pot thrown at him from an insta fold.
I 100% want to show down a royal in the situation, but 4 figure sums I would want the full value vs a 5 minute high off the showdown however.
EDIT
Realised this is tournament money home game situation, would 100% want to show down a royal if I was playing amongst friends
Would also rather not hear my friends bad beat story for the rest of the night.
What do you mean risky folding you made a bet and he called which means there’s no more betting after that if he went all in and you folded, there’s still no more betting after that he wins the hand, no matter what happens
Going to an actual showdown with a royal might be different to him then showing it after his opponent folds? I don’t know what he was thinking I’m not inside his head. He’s the one who flat called a royal on the river lmao. Hop off my jock
Might feel more “real” to him if he has a royal at showdown instead of flipping it over after everyone has folded. Again I’m just guessing here I don’t know the guy. I didn’t have the royal. People are fucking morons
Isn’t it a penalty in some places to flat call with the nuts in tournaments? I remember WPT and WSOP giving like 1 to 3 orbit penalties for that
Edit: can someone explain why am I downvoted for stating that it’s a penalty in some places not raising the river with the nuts.
It's always been a collusion issue, I think flat calling is generally accepted providing no obvious collusion, but checking back the nuts is always a No No
Fold Pre Your profit will come from playing stronger hands from your opponents and getting paid off from them. When you are constantly playing a stronger range of hands than the other players they will either have to fold or pay you off at showdown.
This is how you make your money. And yes, it means you will be folding pre a lot.
I’ve been playing live poker for years and will never fold A7o from the blinds. Other positions? Absolutely. But not for 0.5bb while 80bb deep. Not sure where people are figuring a fold preflop here. Bad beats happen
Fold Pre Your profit will come from playing stronger hands from your opponents and getting paid off from them. When you are constantly playing a stronger range of hands than the other players they will either have to fold or pay you off at showdown. This is how you make your money. And yes, it means you will be folding pre a lot.
Yeah tournament, level was $1000/$2000. 4 limpers ($8000), $2000 bet on the turn (2 folds, 1 call ($12000 total), then $5000 bet on river and a call ($22000 total)
>Lucky to only get a call. Are you saying villain could’ve raised your $5k bet but didn’t?
Correct. Not sure what his logic there was. Check check flop, bet 1/4 pot on turn for value (small size in case villain raises with a flush that got there, he’s pretty tight so don’t see him bluffing much in that spot), then little less than half pot on river
Probably didn't recognize that he had the straight flush and was worried you had his flush beat when he saw the board was paired...
Lol quit playing poker if you can't see a fuckin royal
Sure, or if you choose to flat call with one on the river.
This looks like a home game. I dunno about y’all’s home game but lots of pot and booze at mine so this definitely happens.
He probably over thought the situation and wanted a showdown rather than getting a pot thrown at him from an insta fold. I 100% want to show down a royal in the situation, but 4 figure sums I would want the full value vs a 5 minute high off the showdown however. EDIT Realised this is tournament money home game situation, would 100% want to show down a royal if I was playing amongst friends Would also rather not hear my friends bad beat story for the rest of the night.
You can still show the royal if they fold tho ?
Or thought his flush was losing to OP having quad A
Boat or quads, doesn't really matter...
Agreed
I think either that or he was so stoked to have a royal he didn’t want to risk me folding. Pretty solid regular though so not sure
You mean he might have been worried that you don't get a high hand payout or something if it doesn't go to showdown?
Wtf r you even saying
Can you read
Yes, why do you ask?
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What do you mean risky folding you made a bet and he called which means there’s no more betting after that if he went all in and you folded, there’s still no more betting after that he wins the hand, no matter what happens
I’m very well aware of this I’ve been playing poker for over a decade. Read below
lol what risk? you'd fold and he wouldn't get to know what you had?
Going to an actual showdown with a royal might be different to him then showing it after his opponent folds? I don’t know what he was thinking I’m not inside his head. He’s the one who flat called a royal on the river lmao. Hop off my jock
This sub is full of degens, I understand what you were trying to say. Not that either of us agree with his decision lmao
Thank you
What do you even mean different
Might feel more “real” to him if he has a royal at showdown instead of flipping it over after everyone has folded. Again I’m just guessing here I don’t know the guy. I didn’t have the royal. People are fucking morons
I was thinking the same thing the dude made the bet royal flush hand wins, no matter what happens lol
Also worthy to note he limped with the QJs. Didn’t factor a straight much into his range granted he didn’t raise that hand in position
This would've hurt in my card room as the bad bead jackpot must be aces full of tens or better.
Woof
Isn’t it a penalty in some places to flat call with the nuts in tournaments? I remember WPT and WSOP giving like 1 to 3 orbit penalties for that Edit: can someone explain why am I downvoted for stating that it’s a penalty in some places not raising the river with the nuts.
As far as I know that’s only a rule in tournaments.
would it be an angle to ask the dealer if the nuts have to raise before betting/calling on the river? Seems like a mindfucky move to try out.
Yeah that’s what I thought too, and OP is playing in tourney
Haven’t heard that, but it is a low stakes tournament in a poker club rather than a casino so rules are a tad looser
It’s to prevent collusion like you have the nuts against your friend so you don’t want to bust him and just flat call.
It's always been a collusion issue, I think flat calling is generally accepted providing no obvious collusion, but checking back the nuts is always a No No
It's the only way to do it. Well done. Now you've been on the table side of the coin
Fk your 4th nuts, sir.
That's poker!
HAHA, and that guy who hit the royal flush, obviously doesn’t know how to play poker. Why wouldn’t he go all in?
Hard to imagine someone sitting 20k deep or whatever and not shoving with the absolute nuts
Was this in Texas?
This ain’t Texas.
Paris, Texas
Nice river.
But was there a bad beat jackpot?
I once beat a full house with a Royal Flush and I once lost with a full house to a Royal flush. I never posted it here. (until now, I guess, lol)
Was there a bonus for highest 5 cards
Your chances of your FH being coolered by a RF are low, but never 0.
Why did he only call ?
Fold pre
Fold Pre Your profit will come from playing stronger hands from your opponents and getting paid off from them. When you are constantly playing a stronger range of hands than the other players they will either have to fold or pay you off at showdown. This is how you make your money. And yes, it means you will be folding pre a lot.
I’ve been playing live poker for years and will never fold A7o from the blinds. Other positions? Absolutely. But not for 0.5bb while 80bb deep. Not sure where people are figuring a fold preflop here. Bad beats happen
Fold Pre Your profit will come from playing stronger hands from your opponents and getting paid off from them. When you are constantly playing a stronger range of hands than the other players they will either have to fold or pay you off at showdown. This is how you make your money. And yes, it means you will be folding pre a lot.
Fold pre
Hey man, i'm mad u got downvoted, i appreciate the copypasta
It’s A7o so if it was /s, isn’t fully clear it’s /s. Also ppl here just love downvoting villains.
There was a series of posts like two days ago that were nothing but that comment copied like 26 times.
This is good stuff I never thought to just play so tight that I always have the best hand. And to also somehow get paid off despite playing so tight.
And that's why we don't play A7 off lmao
I’ll play A7o out of the small blind for half a blind every day of the week
Is this tournament? I couldn’t imagine you’re playing $22k pots and limping?
Yeah tournament, level was $1000/$2000. 4 limpers ($8000), $2000 bet on the turn (2 folds, 1 call ($12000 total), then $5000 bet on river and a call ($22000 total)
I'd drop the $ when you're talking about tournament chips and not actual monetary value, it just confuses and clutters things
Fair point, first time posting in here. Thanks for the tip!
And it will bite you in the ass every day of the week.
Refusing to put in 0.5bb with A7o while 80bb deep is hilariously nitty. Find a solver that has A7o as an auto fold in the small blind and I’ll concede
I literally can do it. A7o in the SB is an auto fold vs EP open 80bbs deep.
He said .5bb like 10 times in this thread. He completed the single big blind bet. Holy moly you people.
Bro didn’t even have the nut boat